Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement: Difference between revisions

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Content deleted Content added
Line 213: Line 213:
*{{ping|Montanabw}} Please note that the case states that violations may result in a block of ''up to'' one month, not that a one-month block is the standard remedy. {{ping|Eric Corbett}} Are you willing not to agree to refer to WiR on-wiki in the future, in order to help resolve this? [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 21:59, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
*{{ping|Montanabw}} Please note that the case states that violations may result in a block of ''up to'' one month, not that a one-month block is the standard remedy. {{ping|Eric Corbett}} Are you willing not to agree to refer to WiR on-wiki in the future, in order to help resolve this? [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 21:59, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
**As Mr. Wolfe would say, Pfui on me. {{ping|Eric Corbett}} Please excuse the typo. Are you willing to agree not to refer to WiR on-wiki in the future, in order to help resolve this? [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 22:09, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
**As Mr. Wolfe would say, Pfui on me. {{ping|Eric Corbett}} Please excuse the typo. Are you willing to agree not to refer to WiR on-wiki in the future, in order to help resolve this? [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 22:09, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
*Corbett will not agree to the most basic of conditions to not violate his topic ban again, offers no explanation and seems indifferent to whether he is blocked over this infraction. Does that sum things up? <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 00:26, 2 July 2019 (UTC)


==Cinderella157==
==Cinderella157==

Revision as of 00:27, 2 July 2019


    Arbitration enforcement archives
    1234567891011121314151617181920
    2122232425262728293031323334353637383940
    4142434445464748495051525354555657585960
    6162636465666768697071727374757677787980
    81828384858687888990919293949596979899100
    101102103104105106107108109110111112113114115116117118119120
    121122123124125126127128129130131132133134135136137138139140
    141142143144145146147148149150151152153154155156157158159160
    161162163164165166167168169170171172173174175176177178179180
    181182183184185186187188189190191192193194195196197198199200
    201202203204205206207208209210211212213214215216217218219220
    221222223224225226227228229230231232233234235236237238239240
    241242243244245246247248249250251252253254255256257258259260
    261262263264265266267268269270271272273274275276277278279280
    281282283284285286287288289290291292293294295296297298299300
    301302303304305306307308309310311312313314315316317318319320
    321322323324325326327328329330331

    Marvin 2009

    This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
    Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

    Request concerning Marvin 2009

    User who is submitting this request for enforcement
    PatCheng (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 06:05, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    User against whom enforcement is requested
    Marvin 2009 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log

    Sanction or remedy to be enforced
    Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Falun Gong :
    Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
    1. 16 June 2019 In my previous ANI case, he dug up some of my old edits, and together some random news articles, engaged in soapboxing and slyly suggested that I'm a CCP spy.
    2. 22 May 2019 Soapboxing about the evils of CCP in a RFC comment about number of FLG members
    3. 29 April 2019 Similar soapboxing on talk page, attempting to discredit sources critical of FLG
    4. 31 March 2019 Calling for the removal of Chinese government sources, using a US-funded NGO as evidence
    5. 31 March 2019 Same as above
    6. 27 March 2019 Further soapboxing, accusing another user of being "50 Cent Party" (a slur against users deemed pro-CCP).
    7. 27 April 2019 Accused another user of being a "CCP apologist".
    8. 7 February 2016 Previously engaged in 3RR violations and demonstrated a clear disregard of WP policy, launching a 3RR case against the user who reported him [1]
    9. 6 December 2015 Accusing other users in the 3RR case of being "CCP sympathizers"


    Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any
    1. 6 Dec 2015 48 hour block for edit warring


    If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)
    • Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above. [2]
    Additional comments by editor filing complaint

    User is a single purpose account whose major edits are in the Falun Gong related articles [3], demonstrating a similar editing pattern to User:Asdfg12345 and User:HappyInGeneral who were topic banned.--PatCheng (talk) 06:05, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

    [4]

    Discussion concerning Marvin 2009

    Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
    Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

    Statement by MrClog

    It seems to me that the awareness criteria are not met. The editor has received 1 DS notice more than 12 months ago, and the 48 hour block was not a AE block, but a regular admin action for violation of the 3RR. The editor has never participated in any process about the area of conflict at arbitration requests or arbitration enforcement.[5] As such, this request should be denied. I will send a DS alert to the user now, but that's obviously too late. --MrClog (talk) 17:56, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by (username)

    Result concerning Marvin 2009

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.
    • This was previously discussed in the ANI thread, which wound up not being acted on, but in which Marvin 2009 said he will improve his talkpage etiquette, which is an issue raised here. Since the ANI thread ended, he's made just one edit, not in this topic-area. There is also the "awareness" issue noted above, which has now been addressed. I suggest we close this without action in the hope there will be no further issues. Newyorkbrad (talk) 18:26, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree that action shouldn't be taken here in the absence of a timely DS notice. The notice has now been supplied by User:MrClog. Though the 3RR block from 2015 was unrelated to any Arbcom sanctions, the page where they edit warred was Epoch Times, a publication that is associated with Falun Gong. If the user's behavior from now on suggests they can't edit neutrally about the Falun Gong, we may be back here soon. The ANI thread just mentioned was at this link. The best way to tell if ARBFLG sanctions are being violated is to watch out for soapboxing, whether in articles, talk pages or edit summaries. EdJohnston (talk) 21:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Mehrajmir13

    This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
    Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

    Request concerning Mehrajmir13

    User who is submitting this request for enforcement
    Winged Blades of Godric (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 06:58, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    User against whom enforcement is requested
    Mehrajmir13 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log

    Sanction or remedy to be enforced
    Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/India-Pakistan#Enforcement_of_restrictions :
    Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

    This thread over his t/p contains 11 diffs of mine reverting several of Mehrajmir13's edits (with explicit edit-summaries), because the source did not support the content.

    After I posted that message, the user ceased editing, all of a sudden only to return a month and a half later and immediately archive his entire t/p, including the above thread! This is perceived by me as an attempt at evading scrutiny.

    Coupled with his usage of DYK to push POV-laden inaccurate hooks (vide here, here et al) to main page, he is a grave threat to our reputation as an encyclopedia.

    Diffs of previous relevant warning/sanctions, if any
    1. 6 February 2019 Sitush warns him for unexplained removal of sourced content and whitewashing articles.
    2. 19 February 2019 Kautilya3 warns him for edit warring w/o indulging in any discussion.
    If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)
    • Given an alert about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on 30 January, 2019
    Additional comments by editor filing complaint

    I am asking for an indefinite topic ban from any article linked with "India-Pakistan conflict", broadly construed.

    @Clog:-The editor is free to archive their t/p but is not free to avoid queries, related to their dubious editing. In that t/p message, I explicitly mentioned that returning to editing w/o answering will lead to an AE request. I though appreciate your proposals for a boomerang; some amount of humor is always necessary.

    Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

    Notified over here.

    Discussion concerning Mehrajmir13

    Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
    Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

    Statement by Mehrajmir13

    Statement by MrClog

    A few notes:

    • The only diffs provided are the 11 diffs included in the talk page message by WBG on 20 February 2019, 2 DYKs from before that date and a diff of the user archiving their talk page.
    • The only diff provided regarding an edit after WBG warned the user February 20, is the user archiving their own talk page.
    • Assuming that a user archives their talk page (with a link to the archive on his talk page) as an attempt at evading scrutiny doesn't seem to be assuming good faith, to be honest. The editor is free to archive their talk page.
    • As such, it seems (based on the diffs provided) unnecessary to sanction the user in question, because no policies/guidelines have been violated since Feb. 20.
    • Boomerang for failing to AGF? Not sure, to be honest. This report could be an honest mistake from the reporter (maybe they forgot to add diffs from edits after Feb 20). Leaning towards no boomerang necessary.

    --MrClog (talk) 07:28, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    @Winged Blades of Godric: The editor is free to archive their t/p but is not free to avoid queries, related to their dubious editing. In that t/p message, I explicitly mentioned that returning to editing w/o answering will lead to an AE request. The point is that you have not provided any diffs that show that since the talk page message (Feb 20), the editor has been violating Wikipedia policies. If these diffs exist, please share them. If they do not, then apparently they have got your message at the talk page (even without them responding) and there is no reason why a sanction is necessary, because there is no current conduct issue of concern (For example, though it might have been justifiable to block an editor a short time ago, such a block may no longer be justifiable right now, particularly if the actions have since ceased). --MrClog (talk) 08:19, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by (username)

    Result concerning Mehrajmir13

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.
    • I've undone a closure of this thread by Winged Blades of Godric. Parties must not close their own requests, because there is a possibility that they may themselves be sanctioned (though probably not here). But they may declare their requests withdrawn. Sandstein 15:58, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Let's close this without action, either as withdrawn or as stale. Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:55, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Eric Corbett

    This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
    Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

    Request concerning Eric Corbett

    User who is submitting this request for enforcement
    Kirill Lokshin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 18:58, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    User against whom enforcement is requested
    Eric Corbett (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log

    Sanction or remedy to be enforced
    Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Interactions_at_GGTF#Eric Corbett topic banned
    Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
    1. 14:49, 1 July 2019. Eric accuses a candidate at requests for adminship of "poor judgement [...] in her membership of WiR". Eric's statement is a reference to WikiProject Women in Red, which is a "process or discussion relating to" "the gender disparity among Wikipedians [...] broadly construed", as specified in the above-referenced topic ban.
    Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any
    1. GGTF enforcement log and ARBAE2 finding. Eric has previously been subject to numerous, escalating blocks for violations of the topic ban.
    2. ARBAE2 enforcement restriction. "The Arbitration Committee [...] mandates that all enforcement requests relating to [the topic ban] be filed at arbitration enforcement and be kept open for at least 24 hours".
    If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)
    Not applicable
    Additional comments by editor filing complaint
    Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested
    18:57, 1 July 2019


    Discussion concerning Eric Corbett

    Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
    Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

    Statement by Eric Corbett

    • I think I referred to the candidate as "she" as well, so definitely worthy of sanction, I agree. Eric Corbett 19:11, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Newyorkbrad: "Are you willing not to agree to refer to WiR on-wiki in the future ...". I'm quite willing not to agree to anything in the future if it will help. Eric Corbett 22:06, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Montanabw: I think you misunderstand my position; block me for as long as you like, it will make to difference to me, only to the credibility of Wikipedia. Eric Corbett 22:10, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Newyorkbrad: In a word no, I will not agree to any such thing. Eric Corbett 22:13, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by El_C

    • I find Eric Corbett's statement deflective and unresponsive. El_C 19:13, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by cygnis insignis

    • Another plaintive cry for attention, as I read the block history, or trolling if there is still a difference. Dropping it at the RfA is a demand for a response. cygnis insignis 19:36, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by MJL

    Since I filed this request, there clearly has been an escalation on the part of Eric. [6]

    I'll probably post a more in depth statement later, though. –MJLTalk 21:29, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    @TracyMcClark: What? I'm still not home, so I can't respond to everything here. However, it's not a question whether Eric can vote (which is yes, Eric can), it's a question of whether they have to be civil about it and abide by the relevant topic bans. –MJLTalk 00:05, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by Montanabw

    Corbett has been on parole for a long time. His last block of record was in 2015. I wish he hadn't taken a swipe at WIR (of which I am a member), but I recall with gratitude his support of my RfA a number of years back, so I owe him one here. In short, yes, he made a five word crack that was out of line, should have been struck, but striking it now would probably just inflame the drama. Here, I don't see a previous violation in the relevant section on the GGTF restriction since 2015, and that the record is confusing , nor any violation since 2012 of the RfA restriction. (If I am in error, please provide the diff). Given that the GGTF decision states that a one-month block is the standard remedy, but that two previous month-long blocks handed down in 2015 were reduced to a few days at most, I suggest that the admins make this a one-week block (thus more than the 24-48 hours he actually served for his most recent blocks in 2015). I'd take his "definitely worthy of sanction" remark above at face value (even if it drips sarcasm) and not let this escalate further. Montanabw(talk) 21:47, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Comment by Leaky

    @Newyorkbrad: - I think you mean "Are you willing to agree not to...." Otherwise....

    Statement by (TracyMcClark)

    Looks like Wikipedia's voting rights for "criminals" are being decided here so be aware while setting the precedent against Universal suffrage on Wikipedia.--TMCk (talk) 22:10, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Comment by GoodDay

    Wikipedia will be much better off, when we start seeing editors as being non-gendered. There's no such thing as male & female editors. There's only 'editors'. The abolishment of GGTF & other such groupings, would be best. GoodDay (talk) 22:49, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Comment by Carrite

    I agree with the sentiment that the timing of this (as well as the other) RFA is tantamount to strikebreaking, but that's really not the nominee's fault. I think the "poor judgment in Women in Red" comment is ill-formed, at a bare minimum, but according to terms of his probation, Corbett can not comment again to explain himself in the RFA thread. Tagging him for AE for this is completely a chickenshit line of argument, in my view. Decline. Carrite (talk) 23:18, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by (username)

    Result concerning Eric Corbett

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.
    • @Montanabw: Please note that the case states that violations may result in a block of up to one month, not that a one-month block is the standard remedy. @Eric Corbett: Are you willing not to agree to refer to WiR on-wiki in the future, in order to help resolve this? Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:59, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • As Mr. Wolfe would say, Pfui on me. @Eric Corbett: Please excuse the typo. Are you willing to agree not to refer to WiR on-wiki in the future, in order to help resolve this? Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:09, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Corbett will not agree to the most basic of conditions to not violate his topic ban again, offers no explanation and seems indifferent to whether he is blocked over this infraction. Does that sum things up? Liz Read! Talk! 00:26, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Cinderella157

    This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
    Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

    Request concerning Cinderella157

    User who is submitting this request for enforcement
    K.e.coffman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 00:07, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    User against whom enforcement is requested
    Cinderella157 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log

    Sanction or remedy to be enforced
    Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/German war effort#Cinderella157 German history topic ban
    Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
    1. 19 June 2019, edit pertaining to Waffen-SS reenactment
    2. 20 June 2019, same
    3. 1 July 2019, same.
    Additional comments by editor filing complaint
    • Cinderella157 performed three edits at World War II reenactment, dealing with the subject of reenactment activities around Waffen-SS, the combat branch of the German SS.
    • Cinderella157 has previously been reminded of the topic ban by Bishonen in an unrelated matter: "Please don't return to old battles in an area that you're topic banned from" 5 March 2019.
    • I requested that they self-revert 20 June 2019. Cinderella responded to my request that he did not believe that the article fell under the topic ban and performed the revert that I listed as diff #3. I'm therefore bringing the matter here for admin review.

    --K.e.coffman (talk) 00:07, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

    Discussion concerning Cinderella157

    Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
    Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

    Statement by Cinderella157

    Statement by (username)

    Result concerning Cinderella157

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.