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#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistani_nationalism&type=revision&diff=960812809&oldid=953812520 4 June 2020] very many things wrong with this diff. Adds 13kb (!) of content without an edit summary, and with no explanation on the talk page. Includes content about "separatist campaign", much of which the sources do not directly connect to Pakistani nationalism. This is particularly true about the sentences discussing [[Direct Action Day]]. The same edit adds a ''long'' quotation about Pakistan from [[M. S. Golwalkar]], a leader of the Hindu nationalist [[Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh]]. Golwalkar isn't a historian or political scientist, and his views constitute egregious [[WP:DUE|undue weight]]. In short, edit violates [[WP:NPOV]], [[WP:NOR]], and basic behavioral norms.
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistani_nationalism&type=revision&diff=960812809&oldid=953812520 4 June 2020] very many things wrong with this diff. Adds 13kb (!) of content without an edit summary, and with no explanation on the talk page. Includes content about "separatist campaign", much of which the sources do not directly connect to Pakistani nationalism. This is particularly true about the sentences discussing [[Direct Action Day]]. <s>The same edit adds a ''long'' quotation about Pakistan from [[M. S. Golwalkar]], a leader of the Hindu nationalist [[Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh]]. Golwalkar isn't a historian or political scientist, and his views constitute egregious [[WP:DUE|undue weight]].</s> In short, edit violates [[WP:NPOV]], [[WP:NOR]], and basic behavioral norms. EDITED: Azuredivay has pointed out that the quote already existed, for which I apologize; the software highlights it when I view that diff the same way new content is highlighted. That doesn't address the rest of the problems with that diff, though.
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistani_nationalism&diff=prev&oldid=960990711 4 June 2020] same article as above; removes tags without explanation; adds content without a source.
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistani_nationalism&diff=prev&oldid=960990711 4 June 2020] same article as above; removes tags without explanation; adds content without a source.
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Munshi_Raziuddin&diff=prev&oldid=958338162 23 May 2020] changes "Pakistani Qawwal" to "Indian Qawwal" without a source and without an edit summary.
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Munshi_Raziuddin&diff=prev&oldid=958338162 23 May 2020] changes "Pakistani Qawwal" to "Indian Qawwal" without a source and without an edit summary.

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    Chiappoloni

    Chiappoloni is blocked from editing George Soros and Talk:George Soros for a period of one year. I am of the opinion that their contributions to the page in all aspects are not benefecial at best and disruptive at worst, including violation of restrictions they were made aware of. --qedk (t c) 18:55, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

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    Request concerning Chiappoloni

    User who is submitting this request for enforcement
    NorthBySouthBaranof (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 15:43, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    User against whom enforcement is requested
    Chiappoloni (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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    Sanction or remedy to be enforced
    WP:ARBAPDS :
    Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
    1. 23 May Restores material removed by another editor in violation of "consensus required" restriction
    2. 23 May Restores material removed by another editor in violation of "consensus required" restriction
    3. 23 May Restores material removed by another editor in violation of "consensus required" restriction
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    Appears to be a straightforward violation of the "consensus required" provision. User has not engaged in any talk page discussion, and has simply removed all attempts at communication on their user talk page. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 15:43, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

    Notified.

    Discussion concerning Chiappoloni

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    Statement by Chiappoloni

    In reference to:

    1. 05/23/2020

    Political donations for George Soros page

    As it appears NorthBySouthBaranof has mentioned in a previous talk page which also applies here, "The material is not questionably or poorly sourced, is not a violation of BLP... You're welcome to discuss the issue on the article talk page or bring more viewpoints to that page, but mere disagreement with cited sources does not justify removal of sourced material."

    Removing factual information, that better informs our readers or provides improved access to our readers, is not helpful, especially if it is presented in a data-oriented, fact-focused, manner. Removing facts is doing the opposite for our readers to understand all political donations. Editing or reverting any changes in wording seems understandable if taking a certain viewpoint or interpretation of a paragraph, but removing an entire paragraph, source, or new facts provided to an article, does not appear understandable, or justified. Why are Federal Elections more or less important than local US Elections as mentioned in the Los Angeles Times? These edits are adding factual information to a page and making a section easier-to-read by adding sub-headings and additional source information. Not sure how presenting published news articles and a full data-focused and fact-focused description is being removed or in violation. Legitimate news sources, e.g. Politico, the Los Angeles Times, and the Telegraph, are being referenced or added for readers’ ease-of-access. To remove these sources for referenced articles is decreasing the ease-of-access and factual information for articles.

    Contested Edits - Incorrect removal of LA Times and other sourcing articles regarding political donations

    I'm not sure how any of these edits are able to be 'contested' by NorthBySouthBaranof in the first place? Being that the edits consisted of adding sub-headings for readability, sources for readability and reference-checking, public information, and published articles from news sources such as the Los Angeles Times, Politico, and the relevant and referred to donation funds' websites (- when NorthBySouthBaranof said that the sources were not legitimate? -) surrounding local political investment, without offering opinions on said donations. Specifically, these edits were added to the sub-heading titled, 'Political Involvement,' which appears appropriate. It is surprising that this added information to the said section would not be lauded versus 'contested?' Especially considering that this section appears lacking in organization, readability, comprehensiveness (no US-specific section while there has been substantial amounts of donations in this arena (in the billions of $s), and no separation of or information on the large amounts of local US donations versus federal-election-only US donations), and sourcing material.

    Moreover, please can someone clarify, is only one person allowed to contest an article's changes to be considered 'consensus?' Whereas, reverting via an apparent incorrect contesting of an article's edits, out of disagreement with said factual information, is only needed by one person NorthBySouthBaranof?

    Lastly, this user, NorthBySouthBaranof, appears to need to perhaps be placed on some sort of restriction themselves? Not only have they removed added sources helpful to our readers, but have also removed history and factual information for our readers. In addition, this user has filed an enforcement request 6 minutes after asking for the reverted edits to be removed. This not only seems overtly 'hasty,' in not giving an appropriate amount of time to myself to make said edits, but the fact that these edits were incorrectly placed by NorthBySouthBaranof in the first place, makes it all the more moot.


    This next section makes the Statement go over 500 word limit, unfortunately - However, I believe this section is necessary and significant to present a full picture of NorthBySouthBaranof's actions and claims:

    User NorthBySouthBaranof has also provided incorrect or false information here on this filing, as I have in fact tried to discuss the issue on NorthBySouthBaranof (talk)'s talk page (as can be seen on their talk page), and they in fact 'snipped' or deleted my response. My now-'snipped' attempt at conversing with them can be seen on their talk page, and which I re-posted on mine after noticing NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) snipped my attempt.

    In my initial Wikipedia-user-interface naivete I removed what I thought were notices on my talk page (#notices), but not attempts at conversation, and these appear to be from a different user than NorthBySouthBaranof. I might be naive, as I am a beginner to the user-interface of Wikipedia, but I'm not sure how it is possible to believe that I have 'removed' any conversation attempts, when I believe these were intended as 'notices' versus conversation from a different user than NorthBySouthBaranof. I have recently tried to undo these edits due to me being a beginner, and they appear to be unable to be undone - but please redo them if possible, it will probably be more helpful to this case.

    NorthBySouthBaranof, however, is an experienced user that I would imagine should know better than deleting my attempts at conversation on his talk page. He had in fact removed or 'snipped' all attempts at conversation. Hence, it appears surprising that he would then accused me of what he, NorthBySouthBaranof, has in fact done? His (and my) actions can easily be seen on these public webpages, and histories of these pages so I'm not sure why he would provide this false claim? Here is a copy of NorthBySouthBaranof's misdirected claim where not only do they only mention a 'consensus required' provision which refers to their Arbitration Request, but they also do not acknowledge their deletion of the sources and information or relevant and needed rationale therein, and then provide the misdirected, or false, claim regarding the removal of all attempts at communication (which NorthBySouthBaranof did, but I did not, funny enough): "Appears to be a straightforward violation of the "consensus required" provision. User has not engaged in any talk page discussion, and has simply removed all attempts at communication on their user talk page. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 15:43, 23 May 2020 (UTC)."[reply]

    Statement by (username)

    Result concerning Chiappoloni

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.
    • Chiappoloni, just state your case in your own section, please. You do not need a new report for that — a report which was malformed anyway. El_C 19:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Chiappoloni, rather than ping the complainant almost 20 times (!), you should address the violation itself. Otherwise, you should use diffs as evidence. You appear to be filibustering, which is a problem. This is a volunteer project and the expectation is for you to be concise. Your wall of text, again, is a problem on multiple levels. El_C 17:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Chiappoloni, these do indeed appear to be straightforward violations of the "consensus required" restriction, and you were clearly notified of that. I'll wait for a reasonable amount of time to hear what you have to say, but I suggest you respond as soon as you are able. Seraphimblade Talk to me 01:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • The diffs provided in the request show two blatant violations of the "consensus required" page restriction on the George Soros article. Despite its length, Chiappoloni's response does not provide any arguments that mitigate or justify these violations. — Newslinger talk 02:01, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Jugs Rimes

    Moot, editor has been blocked as a block-evading sockpuppet. Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:34, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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    Request concerning Jugs Rimes

    User who is submitting this request for enforcement
    FDW777 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 17:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    User against whom enforcement is requested
    Jugs Rimes (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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    Sanction or remedy to be enforced
    Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles#Standard discretionary sanctions :
    Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
    1. 16:51, 12 May 2020 Adds {{cn}} to the Drummuckavall ambush article. While obviously not a violation of anything, I feel it's fair and important to give a full timeline
    2. 23:23, 23 May 2020 Adds {{fv}} to the citation that was added following diff#1
    3. 21:51, 25 May 2020 Adds {{fv}} again
    4. 17:58, 31 May 2020 Adds {{fv}} again
    5. 16:42, 4 June 2020 Adds {{fv}} again
    Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any
    If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)

    Alerted here.

    Additional comments by editor filing complaint

    I explained at Talk:Drummuckavall ambush#Multiple editions of Harnden, with wildly differing page numbers on 07:02, 24 May 2020 that there are (at least) two editions of the book with wildly different page numbers (page 159 versus page 116 for the same information), I also explained to the editor on their talk page about this, as well as referring to it in an edit summary and requesting they explain why they feel it isn't referenced. All they do is ignore me. Although obviously not covered by the Troubles discretionary sanctions, the history of Airbus A400M Atlas shows a repeated attempt to add {{fv}} there despite other editors saying it's referenced, and the history of Mauser Model 1893 shows a repeated attempt to add a pointless duplicate link. As the history of their talk page shows, they have no interest in communicating with other editors regarding these problems.

    Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

    Notified


    Discussion concerning Jugs Rimes

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    Statement by Jugs Rimes

    Statement by Levivich

    Thanks to FDW for filing this report. There is more:

    • 1 (combined diff): At Eoin O'Duffy, changing "The book had antisemitic undertones" to "The book had anti-communist undertones" (the cited source, p. 6, says "The book had strongly anti-Semitic undertones"); removing "fascist" and "Franco"; removing "blueshirts" or changing it to "Army Comrades Association"
    • 2, 3, 4: At Antifa (United States), changing "movement" to "terrorist organization".
    • 5, 6: At Killing of George Floyd, removing "Police officer Derek Chauvin kneels on Floyd's neck" (or similar)
    • 7, 8, 9: At Austrian Air Force, repeatedly adding {{cn}} tags to infobox parameters where the content is already sourced in the article
    • They have received a number of warnings and DS templates, all of which they deleted from their UTP with no response.
    • Never used an edit summary.
    • Never posted to a talk page (except to delete posts to their talk page).
    • There may be more; I haven't gone through all of the contribs. Levivich[dubiousdiscuss] 18:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by (username)

    Result concerning Jugs Rimes

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

    Raghavendrax

    Raghavendrax topic banned indefinitely from the IPA topic area. Seraphimblade Talk to me 00:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

    This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
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    Request concerning Raghavendrax

    User who is submitting this request for enforcement
    Newslinger (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 09:49, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    User against whom enforcement is requested
    Raghavendrax (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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    Sanction or remedy to be enforced
    Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan#Standard discretionary sanctions :
    Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
    1. 09:03, 6 June 2020: Replaced reliably sourced content in the Citizenship Amendment Act protests article with unverifiable content. The edit replaced "The amendment has been widely criticised as discriminating on the basis of religion, particularity for excluding Muslims" with "The amendment act has been widely misinterpreted as discriminating on the basis of religion, particularity for excluding Muslims", and "The bill has raised concerns among the Indian Muslim as well as poor Indians as they might be rendered stateless that could lead them to detention" with "The bill has raised misunderstandings among the Indian Muslim as they might be rendered stateless that could lead them to detention" in the lead section. The cited sources are consistent with the removed language, and are inconsistent with the added language.
    2. 09:06, 6 June 2020: Removed 17,093 net characters from the OpIndia article, replacing the removed content with "OpIndia is widely criticized by Indian left-wing for exposing the fake news spreaded by Indian left-wing." The edit also changed the description of Swarajya from "right-wing" to "popular", deleting the citations attached to the removed word.
    3. 09:09, 6 June 2020: Identical to #2, undoing Materialscientist's reversion (Special:Diff/961040282) of the previous edit.
    Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any
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    • Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above.
    Additional comments by editor filing complaint

    Raghavendrax has repeatedly violated the verifiability policy in the area of Indian politics.

    Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested


    Discussion concerning Raghavendrax

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    Statement by Raghavendrax

    Statement by (username)

    Statement by Symmachus Auxiliarus

    Result concerning Raghavendrax

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

    Cement4802

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    Request concerning Cement4802

    User who is submitting this request for enforcement
    FDW777 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 16:08, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    User against whom enforcement is requested
    Cement4802 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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    Sanction or remedy to be enforced
    Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2#Discretionary sanctions (1932 cutoff) :
    Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
    1. 05:27, 1 June 2020 First change of "left-wing" to "far-left"
    2. 06:10, 1 June 2020 Revert from "left-wing" to "far-left"
    3. 22:29, 2 June 2020 Revert from "left-wing" to "far-left"
    4. 15:07, 6 June 2020 Revert from "left-wing" to "far-left"
    5. 15:46, 6 June 2020 Revert from "left-wing" to "far-left", and 1RR breach being 29 minutes after the previous revert
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    Additional comments by editor filing complaint

    There only engagement on the talk page was at 11:08, 1 June 2020 stating Nfitz Please don't bring your political views into Wikipedia. Sentiments like yours are usually the problem and source of conflict itself. And this has nothing to do with Donald Trump regardless. Numerous reliable sources describe ANTIFA as being far left. This was obviously prior to diffs #3-5.

    Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

    Notified


    Discussion concerning Cement4802

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    Statement by Cement4802

    Statement by (username)

    Result concerning Cement4802

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

    Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Aeonx

    Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found here. According to the procedures, a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved administrators" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.

    To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED).

    Appealing user
    Aeonx (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
    Sanction being appealed
    Two week block (see log)
    Administrator imposing the sanction
    TonyBallioni (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
    Notification of that administrator
    I copied this over myself when they appealed. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:37, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by Aeonx

    It was wrong to block me because it was done under inaccurate and false pretext, the justification used for my block was based on a clear misinterpretration of my the comment I made. The evidence of which is clearly available on my talkpage. I understand the blocking Administrators concern, and I have already openly admitted and accepted that the edit summary I made on the OANN page was disgraceful. I made the comment out of frustration, whereby I have been trying to boldly identifying issues and then take steps to improve the NPOV aspects of the OANN article and have instead simply had my edits (made in accordance with guidelines) reverts; followed my having warnings on my talkpage. That is the frustration I have which has lead to my less-than-graceful comments. However, I still assert the core reason for the block being unwarranted as a clear misinterpretation of my comments, which were generic in nature describing that POV-pushing is "troll-like conduct"; the comments I made in the two reference locations given in the block, were not in any way targeted at any particular editor.

    Statement by TonyBallioni

    So, the statement they are defending is not actually why I blocked. I had blocked on these diffs, which are clear battleground issues, with personal attacks and incivility thrown in the mix: [2], [3], [4] (note edit summary). These were all today, but there is also a history of personal attacks in the topic area: [5] (note content and edit summary), [6] (Aspersions and conspiracy theories about other editors), [7]. They had previously been warned for similar behaviour by Doug Weller in April here. I decided that in totality, the behaviour merited a block, and went with two weeks even though it was a first time offense, because looking at their editing from May, they mainly edit on the weekends lately, so a 24 hour block wouldn't do much and a 1 week would would be about the same, and you'd risk someone coming straight back to the same fight on the day they ordinarily edit.

    After I blocked, I noticed that Bishonen had warned them over these edits, which is not something I had seen when looking through the block history. I pinged Bish to ask her thoughts, and mentioned that I wasn't particularly impressed by this comment in response to it, where he says that people he's fighting with on the talk page are exhibiting troll-like behaviour, which while not focused on any particular editor, in this topic area is a way of making a personal attack without saying names. It wasn't why I blocked, but it also made me not want to unblock quickly. As I said to Bish after I noticed that she had warned, I would be fine unblocking if she prefers to let the warning stand, but I also think there is enough conduct here for a block, especially as there has been recent history of this behaviour in the topic area, and they had previously been warned within the last two months. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by Objective3000

    1. Content disputes are not admin abuse.
    2. Disagreement does not mean everyone else is wrong.
    3. We are not here to WP:RGW.
    4. POV-pushing is not a one-way street.
    5. WP:5P4 appears to have been downgraded.
    6. Poking in on weekends to snipe at other editors is not useful.

    AP TBan the editor until there is some response that they truly realize the ongoing issues. (I'm sure I'm involved with this editor.) O3000 (talk) 00:40, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Statement by (involved editor 2)

    Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Aeonx

    • We don't allow shared accounts. Can some admin do something about this? Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:56, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Result of the appeal by Aeonx

    This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.
    • No, decline. Even after the warning for the behavior at issue in this block, and after the block, this editor has continued conduct that is inconsistent with the editing environment and that demonstrates that they do not understand why they have been blocked. It is not an acceptable defense to substitute "user:x is a [personal attack]" with "user:x has been engaging in [personal attack]-like conduct"; that would be a loophole big enough to drive a truck through. Comments like If you READ CAREFULLY, you will see I did NOT call editors "troll-like", I wrote "troll-like" conduct". There is a big difference. I'm not attacking editors. I'm voicing an opinion as to how I, PERSONALLY, view their conduct; and I'm doing so on MY TALKPAGE. This is the sort of typical MALADMINISTRATION I am concerned about growing within Wikipedia. I will appeal this Block and All I get is more and more baseless threats, built around a misconception that I'm the person in the wrong because I'm overtly standing up against crappy administration and bullying. I am here to build a decent encyclopedia, not one built around abuse, maladministration and bias articles. aren't helping their cause either and don't at all indicate that they won't return to the exact same behavior right after the block; in this light, a two week block is pretty lenient. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 18:56, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • A brief review of the earlier talk page posts is equally unimpressive. In response to a DS alert, the user writes: Thanks for posting, Doug Weller. Now I suggest you go read WP:UNINVOLVED. In characterizing this remark, the user writes: The only thing I said in regard to this standard alert was (1)A Thankyou, and (2)a request for you to review a particular relevant section of WP policy; the reason for which is that I was genuinely concerned based observations I had made from your past conduct that this *may* have been overlooked. Is it wrong for me to thankyou for posting on my talk page and to a make a suggestion?! Not a particularly impressive conversation. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 19:09, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I feel dirty posting here. But please be aware that this is a shared account. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Decline after reading the above comments. The situation clearly justifies a two-week block. And as noted by User:L235, their user page states that their account is now being operated by two people. ("This account is used by two Freelance Journalists (SD and TR), currently reporting on COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom"). See WP:NOSHARING. EdJohnston (talk) 19:15, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Decline. The documentation provided display recent misconduct and aggression which raises pressing concerns. That coupled with a seeming inability to understand the reasons for the block, leads me to decline the appeal. El_C 20:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Decline appeal. The block was an appropriate response to the misconduct, and the editor's behavior since then gives me no assurance that it is no longer necessary. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:40, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Azuredivay

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    Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 04:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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    Azuredivay (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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    1. 4 June 2020 very many things wrong with this diff. Adds 13kb (!) of content without an edit summary, and with no explanation on the talk page. Includes content about "separatist campaign", much of which the sources do not directly connect to Pakistani nationalism. This is particularly true about the sentences discussing Direct Action Day. The same edit adds a long quotation about Pakistan from M. S. Golwalkar, a leader of the Hindu nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh. Golwalkar isn't a historian or political scientist, and his views constitute egregious undue weight. In short, edit violates WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, and basic behavioral norms. EDITED: Azuredivay has pointed out that the quote already existed, for which I apologize; the software highlights it when I view that diff the same way new content is highlighted. That doesn't address the rest of the problems with that diff, though.
    2. 4 June 2020 same article as above; removes tags without explanation; adds content without a source.
    3. 23 May 2020 changes "Pakistani Qawwal" to "Indian Qawwal" without a source and without an edit summary.
    4. 4 June 2020 Accuses another user of "revisionism"; refuses to explain himself further.
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    I find it quite strange that Azuredivay's command of English is far superior in the first two diffs linked above, than it is in discussions. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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    Statement by Azuredivay

    Diff #1 has been misrepresented. Golwarkar's quote had been added by Arslan-San[8] not me. I just combined it with the previous para and you are free to remove it if you want. The same editor also added a large amount regarding how "Sindh" was different from the rest of India, which is not true. All of the citations I added to article are reliable and were taken from other places of Wikipedia like Direct Action Day article itself. What I added actually traces the origins of Pakistani nationalism, as Muslim nationalism that began in British India among the elite class of Muslims of UP and Bihar. The content also cited the Lahore Resolution that called for a separate state in subcontinent for Indian Muslims. Mentioning Direct Action Day is obviously important because it is after that event that communal riots spread to other parts of the subcontinent resulting in partition and the realization of the Pakistani state.

    Diff #2: Per WP:ES, I provided edit summary where it was needed. For the rest it is very obvious that I am only adding the content.

    Diff #3: Vanamonde93 has apparently ignored in this edit that I removed puffery, unsourced and unreliably sourced content. There was no Pakistan before 1947 so how a person who was born in 1911 could be called "Pakistani"? I planned to resolve this content dispute on talk page for later.

    Diff #4 has been also misrepresented because I engaged as much as it was needed and I cited a discussion (see Talk:Channar_revolt#Scholarly sources for tax?) which mentioned the word "revisionism" three times and concluded that those views were revisionist in nature. Azuredivay (talk) 06:38, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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