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December 5

Is citing an episode a reliable source?

I want to cite that someone appears in an episode. If their name is in the credits for that episode, does the episode itself count as a reliable source? - Purplewowies (talk) 01:35, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

What "episode" are you talking about exactly ? A Wiki page or something else ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanner Lin (talk • contribs) 09:02, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

An episode of a television show that contains an actor's name in the credits, which I can provide a timecode for. I'm wondering if the episode itself counts as reliable for the purposes of citing that someone was in it on a Wikipedia article. - Purplewowies (talk) 15:32, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

i have used cite episode on occassions but only where there is no other source available even a unrealible one, i think using cite episode is frowned upon cant be sure, best asking at wikiproject television as that the parent project for all television related things. personal i would use it but only if i could not find a source anywhere else--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 20:10, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

'Australian Business Traveller' tagged as 'probably not a reliable source for an encyclopedia'?

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:101.169.48.3&diff=cur

I'm the editor of AusBT and not sure why this site is not considered a reliable source, as we are an established online publication with a solid track record of reporting and indeed breaking many stories. AusBT is as credible as other recognised media outlets and I believe that citations from information provided by AusBT can only help make Wikipedia articles more current and more useful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.169.48.3 (talk) 02:24, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi. We answer reliability questions at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Reliability on wikipedia is governed by the author, publication venue, the publicatished item itself, the statement supported on wikipedia, and the article on which it appears—no source is universally reliable. You certainly should not be posting your own publications to wikipedia pages as this is a WP:Conflict of interest. As a Reliable Sources/Noticeboard editor on wikipedia, I can tell you that your publication triggers a number of instant signals that are worrisome; but, I couldn't form a judgement outside of the specific context of an WP:RS/N request. Fifelfoo (talk) 02:46, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that. We'd like to sort this out so that information sourced by AusBT can indeed be shared via Wikipedia – for instance, with regards to the new Scoot airline we already have exclusive information from an interview with Scoot CEO (which makes him a pretty reliable source) on the fact that all Scoot Boeing 777s will be extended-range ER versions but not rated and operated as such at launch (http://www.ausbt.com.au/scoot-debuts-sydney-singapore-in-mid-2012-china-india-to-follow); that Scoot will not use traditional in-seat video screens and is instead looking to tablets (http://www.ausbt.com.au/scoot-mulls-wireless-ipads-android-tablets-for-in-flight-entertainment); and also more info on Scoot seating, including that Scoot's business-class seat will in fact be a premium economy seat (http://www.ausbt.com.au/scoot-s-new-business-class-not-business-as-usual). That's on top of many other stories which we have broken or which we're first to report (often ahead of larger publications and newspapers due to the more nimble nature of focussed online media), and as this info feeds back into Wikipedia it should be cited appropriately. I'd welcome a chat about how AusBT triggers 'worriesome signals' and how we can work on fixing that so that if a third party updates Wikipedia articles with information from an AusBT article, and cites appropriately, that revision will remain live for the benefit of all users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.169.48.3 (talk) 03:06, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

In addition to Wikipedia:COI see WP:EL#ADV. See also this archived discussion. —teb728 t c 03:17, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

On wikipedia I'm not in the business of supplying consulting services relating to online media; nor, generally, does wikipedia supply advice to editors of magazines regarding the current state of consensus because

• consensus is determined on a day to day basis by expert editors working together in discussion on RS/N
• we would rather not have our methods and structures "gamed" such that some outlets achieve an appearance of reliability without the substance.

My suggestion would be to take a specific article to RS/N when it has been used to support a specific statement on a specific article, and watch how RS/N editors work. If in general your articles get accepted by RS/N, then your publication will generally be accepted in future. Do keep in mind that I've opposed the reliability of Time The Times and The New York Times in certain articles when they're used to support certain statements. If you note problems with reliability for your publication on RS/N, then I'd suggest you consider correcting those issues at your end if you wish your publication to be used as a resource. Additionally, I'd suggest contacting an appropriate Wikiproject, such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation where editors interested in Aviation congregate, and mentioning your publication to them. Fifelfoo (talk) 03:29, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I noted Bidgee's observation that "ABT seems to be more than a blog and an apparently independent news source, but not notable enough for its own article yet" – so as we're a year on I should have that rectified and set up an article. We were adding a _lot_ of information into WIkipedia articles and thus AusBT citations with them, which I thought was more appropriate than inserting information without any reference (and only fair that if AusBT had the first/best story, AusBT should get the cite) – and I know of many other journalists who do the same with their own work. But to avoid potential WP:Conflict of interest issues I'll ensure that doesn't happen, so if you can help by removing the 'red flag' on AusBT that'd be appreciated. I'll also look into touching base with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation folk. Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.169.48.3 (talk) 03:38, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

The behaviour of writing articles and then inserting text into wikipedia sourced to your own article sounds like the perfect start to a Conflict of Interest issue resulting in banning. Please follow Wikipedia's conflict of interest policies carefully: post to the article talk page noting your new publication and its potential use in the article. There doesn't seem to be a hardcoded restriction against your website's link; but, reliability issues are judged on a case by case basis. Fifelfoo (talk) 07:06, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

in a bind

I typed my user name, then my password. After following the prompt to come up with a new password, I got the message that user 'cpopa' does not exist, which is untrue. What's going on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.28.74.112 (talk) 03:15, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

User:Cpopa does exist. But be sure you understand that both usernames and passwords are case sensitive. —teb728 t c 03:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC) But I have never heard of Wikipedia asking for a new password. Are you sure you were trying to login to Wikipedia? —teb728 t c 03:39, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

User:cpopa only exists at the English Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org. Was it here you tried to log in? Try again at Special:UserLogin. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:30, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

A side table is not editable.

Hello;

A side table in the article Municipalities of Mexico is apparently not editable, as it does not appear anywhere in the Edit tab and seemingly does not belong to any section. It also doesn't have an edit option at the bottom, as other table or box template have. On this table, at least one datum is wrong (the number of municipalities of the state of Jalisco is 125, not 126).

Could you please point me to a way to edit this table? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rene8 (talk • contribs) 05:01, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Go to Template:States of Mexico by municipality. That is the location of that table. GB fan 05:06, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It is being transcluded from a template rather than being part of the article (see Wikipedia:Transclusion for technical details). The table you wish to edit is located at Template:States of Mexico by municipality. If you ever see text included in double curly braces {{ }} at Wikipedia, that means it is from a template, so if you see {{Foo}}, you can edit the contents of that template at Template:Foo. Does that help? --Jayron32 05:08, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you both. I know little about the technicalities of editing, so dind't know about transclusion. I know it now. I've edited the mentioned table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rene8 (talk • contribs) 05:34, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

where can i go to buy mercury

where can i go to buy mercury — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.27.112.174 (talk) 05:48, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Which one? The planet, the god, the element, the car, the basketball team, the newspaper, or the football player? --Jayron32 05:58, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Probably the rock star. —teb728 t c 06:23, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

This is the Wikipedia Help Desk, for asking questions about using Wikipedia. If you can't find what you want in any of the articles linked from Mercury, you might consider asking at one of the departments of the Help Desk Reference Desk - probably either Science or Miscellaneous (if you do so, remember to tell people where in the world you are!) But you might do better just googling. --ColinFine (talk) 21:19, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I have replaced "Help Desk" by Reference Desk in the above post. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:27, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

create own .dic and .aff files

Hi I want to create own .dic and .aff files without unicode ie is in ASCII codes. Can you please suggest me how to create it if I have wordlist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.100.175.66 (talk) 05:59, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't know. I suggest you ask your question again at the Computing reference desk. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:25, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Images of the Prophet Mohammed

i read the article written about Mohammed the prophet (peace be upon him) and i was insulted and offended by the fact that a photo for the prophet was posted in the article, actually, the photo did not add any thing to the article and it can be removed or replaced by any other photo for his tomb or for any other islamic symbol without affecting the context of the article... it is banned in the islamic religion to imagine the shape of the prophet mohammed or even drawing any symbols for his shape.. Therefore, please remove the photo or replace it as this is an offence for the muslims and as you wrote an article about islamic religion, write it in the right way and you can add a note that it is banned and prohibited for muslims to draw the prophet. this will be a valuablr and realistic add...this issue is important for all muslims and no action is taken, i will sue wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.197.169.177 (talk) 06:13, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

There are no photographs of the Prophet Mohammed. He passed away long before the invention of photography. I suggest you read Depictions of Muhammad, and then read WP:NLT. In any case, for what it is worth, I can see little merit in including depictions of the Prophet on Wikipedia - but that doesn't justify threats, even unenforceable ones. This isn't an Islamic encyclopaedia, and while we need to consider the sensitivities of certain faiths, we are not ruled by them. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:26, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes better to discuss about the photo graph of His Highness Hazrat Mohammed Mustafa better please try to know and fallow what he has taught to the human beings . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.0.9.62 (talk) 10:36, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

See also Talk:Muhammad/FAQ. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:56, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Can an admin upload the following file and reason inside

There is a logo of the United Russia logo in SVG format in Russian wikipedia I wanted to upload to English Wiki, but it gives me the error -

"Warning: A file by that name has been deleted or moved.

The deletion and move log for this page are provided here for convenience: 14:54, March 13, 2008 ^demon (talk | contribs) deleted "File:United Russia logo.svg" ‎ (Speedy deleted per (CSD I8), was an image available as a bit-for-bit identical copy on the Wikimedia Commons.) "

• Please note, that almost 4 years past and the logo should be uploaded.

SVG link - Файл:Логотип партии "Единая Россия".svg

En.Wiki OLD png format to delete after the above upload - File:United Russia logo.png

Thank you,
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 06:30, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Apparently what happened was that en:File:United Russia logo.svg was moved to Commons:File:United Russia logo.svg but then deleted from Commons as non-free. An admin should undelete the local copy. —teb728 t c 06:47, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

 Done, but it a) probably needs a fair use rationale, b) needs fixing (the SVG looks broken, at least from my computer). CharlieEchoTango (contact) 07:52, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, but I think it should be deleted and than created again as it doesn't allow a real upload, it shows the dimensions as 0 × 0 (131 KB), with no preview pic, but after clicking the date it shows it. wierd. tried to upload few times with no avail.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 09:08, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I tagged it {{db-f2}} which will get it deleted as a corrupt file, but that will probably just take it back to where it was before it was undeleted. Probably the thing to do is upload it under another name. —teb728 t c 12:52, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Modifying a chart or table

Where do I go to ask for help in modifying a chart at Los_Angeles_City_Council#Past_members? Thank you. GeorgeLouis (talk) 06:59, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

What sort of help do you need? The tables themselves are encoded in the page source as usual for content and the page isn't protected. On the other hand, table syntax can be confusing. The talk-page of the article would be a place to discuss ideas for improving layout before you delve in and get your hands dirty (and brain fried) trying to overhaul a whole table's organization. Or HELP:TABLE is a starting point for table syntax details (and probably links to specific discussion pages?). Or I guess here is a good enough place since it's active and lots of editors have a range of experiences with table tricks, just let us know details of what you're trying to accomplish. DMacks (talk) 07:09, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Where are drafts stored?

I saved a draft entry using the wizard, now I want to work on it some more, but I can't see it... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatianagoldflower (talk • contribs) 07:26, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

You haven't saved anything other than this message under your current username. Can you be more specific as to which entry (title) you saved in the wizard? Perhaps you weren't logged in and saved it under your IP address. CharlieEchoTango (contact) 07:44, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Per the article wizard instructions I did not put in a title as it was a draft. Definitely hit "save page." Now its gone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatianagoldflower (talk • contribs) 08:11, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

We might be able to help you find it with a text search. What unusual names, words or phrases were in your draft? -- John of Reading (talk) 08:22, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

It was a start of an article on a person named Eran Thomson - unique words would include friendlet, prepare to live and koobar. thank you for your help :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatianagoldflower (talk • contribs) 08:30, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Try this search again in 24 hours. It takes a few hours for the Wikipedia search indexes to be updated. If that doesn't find it, then I'm afraid that your edit wasn't saved. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:41, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

ہیموگلوبن

کس طرح بڑھایا جا سکتا ہے — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.0.9.62 (talk) 10:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia, please speak in English. We also do not answer medical questions. -- Obsidi♠n Soul 11:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

If you are interested in editing Wikipedia in Urdu, you can see the Urdu Wikipedia (ur:صفحہ اول). But they don't answer medical questions, either. --Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 21:56, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Murder of Keenan Santos and Reuben Fernandes

Does this particular event satisfy notability criteria? I would like to hear opinions on that. I plan on creating an article about this event. The following are the list of sources i plan on using:

Joyson Noel ^{Holla at me!} 11:56, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Notability (events). Considering that this happened last October and still seems to be controversial enough to be nationally significant, it may be notable. If there have been significant in-depth treatment of the event (like feature stories, etc.) as well, then it's very likely to be notable.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 12:37, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

OK. So my conclusion is that it satisfies the following:

• WP:EFFECT – The incident caused a great deal of public outrage all over India, and led to people protesting in Mumbai, and police being dispatched to patrol the streets to curb eve teasing. Also, calls are being made for tougher laws against sexual harrasment.
• WP:GEOSCOPE – The incident was covered nationally.
• WP:INDEPTH – Some of these articles do put the events into context.
• WP:DIVERSE – Sources are obviously diverse.

Joyson Noel ^{Holla at me!} 12:54, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

You need to consider WP:NOTNEWS. The absolutely most important criteria for deciding if an event is something which merits its own encyclopedia article is if sources exist outside of the standard "news cycle", that is if writing is being done beyond the immediate time period after the event. --Jayron32 14:30, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Huggle Configuration

I got rollback rights yesterday and downloaded Huggle but it doesn't seem to work. I've enabled it on my config. page but it still says I need to check it when I try to login. -Abigail was here :D (Need Some Help? Click Me!) 11:59, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

After looking at other user's huggle.css pages (search), I suggest you try "enable:true" rather than "enable-all:true". -- John of Reading (talk) 12:07, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that's documented here. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:08, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Choosing a category

Hello, I have recently successfully placed an entry on to wikipedia; 'The Peterloo Group', I chose as a category 'Arts, Manchester' which is showing highlighted in red as if it is invalid, could you please suggest a better category for this entry. Are there a chosen number of acceptable ones? Thank you.DonLorenzo11 (talk) 13:40, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Firstly you spelled the word "category" incorrectly. Secondly you had the format of the link wrong; as you used {{...}} it was looking for a template; it should have been [[...]]. The list of categories is at Special:Categories, & that includes a link to an index by topic. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:58, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I have added two categories [1] but the article still has many problems. See Wikipedia:Your first article. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:11, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I've wikified it a bit, by adding links to other article. Needs better referencing. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 20:43, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Alexa

Why wikipedia rankings seems to be based, only in Alexa rankings? --My Sistemx (talk) 14:47, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Some of Wikipedia's articles about web sites show the Alexa rank in the box at the top right - for example the Wikipedia article itself. Is that what you are referring to? The place to discuss that would be Template talk:Infobox website. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:01, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Splitting a Sandbox in half

Recently, I started to use User:Buster7/Sandbox-Belgian American Club of Chicago as a receptical for work on a seperate but similar article. In hindsight that was probably a mistake. I should have created a new sandbox right from the start. What is the best way to move the new article to its own sandbox? Move the whole "shabang" and then edit-out one from the other? Thanks! TRA! Buster Seven Talk 15:06, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Copy and paste would be OK in this situation. – ukexpat (talk) 15:58, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Copy paste would indeed be fine, but if you want to retain the article edit history you will need to request that an admin perform a history split (see WP:HISTSPLIT). I unsure of a correct venue for requesting this, last time I needed it done I asked at WP:AN. LxRv (a.ka. Rehevkor) 16:31, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! No history necessary. Buster Seven Talk 17:50, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Unhelpful edits to Behavioral optometry article

Today an anon has made several unhelpful edits to Behavioral optometry. they have to do with eating Indian food. Can somebody roll the article back to it's state before these many edits were made? Lou Sander (talk) 17:09, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Done, & IPs warned. For future reference, if you go to the article history and show the difference between the last good version and the current version, you can then use the "Undo" link, and merely add an appropriate edit summary. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:18, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Step-by-step instructions for undoing multiple edits can be found here. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:48, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Inappropriate Images

collapse trolling

In a survey done on over 400 university students, many of them my students, over 80% of Wikipedia users claim the images supplied at the top of the page on all wiki articles is misleading. To look up George Washington and to get a matching photo of Karthik Nadar is described in the survey as 'obnoxious'. I think Wikipedia needs some sort of editing staff to check for content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.204.21.91 (talk) 17:13, 5 December 2011 (UTC) George Washington We have thousands of editors, all volunteers, who (mostly) do their utmost to improve Wikipedia. You are one of them. Please feel free to fix things. Wikipedia is amazing because it is entirely edited by volunteers. It would not be what it is, if we had editorial staff.  Chzz  ►  17:21, 5 December 2011 (UTC) P.S. I don't understand what you mean about George Washington? I just looked it up, and the top image of him is a portrait of him (as shown here).  Chzz  ►  17:24, 5 December 2011 (UTC) The complaint appears to be about the fundraising banner, rather than about content. Acroterion (talk) 17:26, 5 December 2011 (UTC) It's trolling. Яehevkor ✉ 17:30, 5 December 2011 (UTC) Indeed. There's no such survey.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 17:37, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Spoken Word

How does a user upload a spoken word version of an already existing wikipedia article? ThanksHigginson21 (talk) 18:16, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

See WP:SPOKEN, in specific Wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia/Recording guidelines and Wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia/Uploading guidelines. Hope that helps. - Purplewowies (talk) 18:50, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

ditetrahydrofurfurylpropane help

Could you ask one of your expert chemists, especially rifleman82 if he would help modify my new entry from today 'ditetrahydrofurylpropane' to make it more consistent with Wikipedia standards. The reference section is duplicative and I do not know how to add a structure to ChemBox.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by George.kvakovszky (talk • contribs) 19:06, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Ditetrahydrofurylpropane (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry, so with any luck some expert chemists will take a look at this article. Meanwhile Purplewowies (talk · contribs) has combined the references for you; see WP:NAMEDREFS for guidance on this. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:44, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

This author has written a few extremely specialized reports based on hyper-specialized references (including to himself). I begged him to read WP:SECONDARY with no response. I recommend that he drop his approach and try to contribute to notable themes sought by our readers. Wikipedia is not a personal stamp album.--Smokefoot (talk) 20:54, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Page for reporting Vandalism has been vandalized

In an effort to clean up an article, I was attempting to report a user for reported vandalism. However, the page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AIV, intended to provide instructions for doing so, appears to have been vandalized itself. The page is completely empty and does not provide any instructions for reportinga notehr user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TowheadJeff (talk • contribs) 21:47, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

If it was, it was for <1 minute. Refresh.  Chzz  ►  21:49, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

This was my misunderstanding. I failed to follow directions. My apologies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TowheadJeff (talk • contribs) 21:54, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I cannot play any sound in the page

I cannot play any sound from your site. In other sites, I can play sounds fine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.122.6.86 (talk) 22:35, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

You need a program on your computer that can play Ogg files. I don't know which programs work with Wikipedia, though. - Purplewowies (talk) 22:43, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

See WP:OGG. - Purplewowies (talk) 22:45, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Is the old article available for research

At some point the article Algemeen Beschaafd Nederlands was redirected into the article Dutch language. There is no mention of ABN or AN in the Dutch article. Is it possible to see the article, as it was, before it was redirected? Thanks. Buster Seven Talk 23:31, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Aside from the fact that I would like to see the original article, I think the redirect should have been to Dutch Language Union. That would have been and IS a better fit.Buster Seven Talk 23:40, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Clicking on this link – Algemeen Beschaafd Nederlands – will get you to the redirect page. Or click on Algemeen Beschaafd Nederlands and at the top of the article where it says "redirected from Algemeen Beschaafd Nederlands", click on there. Then click on the "history" tab, and select a version of the article that predates the redirect, such as this one. If you want to change the redirect target, you can either raise it at Talk:Dutch language to see whether anyone has any views, or be bold and do it yourself (as long as you're prepared to discuss it if anyone objects). Bencherlite^Talk 23:50, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! Buster Seven Talk 00:26, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

December 6

IP Address Fraud?

Please help someone is using my IP Address to make unsolicited and non-constructive changes to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.106.141.46 (talk) 01:52, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

You do not own an IP address. Your Internet Service Provider will often change the IP address that is assigned to you. If you want to take more responsibility for your edits, create a free account. -- kainaw™ 02:12, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Your ISP might allocate any address between 58.104.0.1 and 58.111.255.254 to you; if you restart your router you could get pretty much any IP address in this range. As Kainaw says, the best way to make sure your edits are your edits is to create an account. Having said that. the last edit from 'your' IP was this in January 2011, so what is your specific problem? Tonywalton ^Talk 02:32, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

The original poster might have got another IP already before posting. - Tanner Lin 09:31, 6 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanner Lin (talk • contribs)

Indic font rendering w Chrome

Would s.o. mind taking a look at the question at Help_talk:Multilingual_support_(Indic)#what's_up_with_Google_Chrome? — kwami (talk) 05:15, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

How do you edit a Reference in an article.

I am the Webmaster of a site listed in the Reference section of an article. Actually, the site referrenced is no longer active and the reference is via The Wayback Machine circa 2007. The site was renamed that year and now has the same webpage with new and more complete information than the one that is on Wayback. I was going to change the URL in the Reference section but I have been unable to. I would like to know how to do that.TZMC (talk) 06:12, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

The short answer is to look at Help:Footnotes. It's difficult to say more than that without more specifics. Could you mention the article name and the URL at issue? Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 07:04, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

When you are reading an article and see a references section near the bottom populated by a series of numbered citations, you might think that if you edit the page, you will see those citations typed in that section and be able to edit them. However, normally what you will see is code similar to this:

     ==References==

   {{Reflist}} or </references>

The text of citations is actually in the body of the article, directly next to statements or paragraphs the citations support, using <ref>(citation)</ref> tags, which display as footnotes (e.g.^[1][2]) when you are reading an article. The template code shown above in the references section colates and displays all of the citations within the article in a numbered list in which the numbers correspond to the footnote numbers in the text. By clicking on the ^ symbol next to a citation display, you can easily find exactly where in the body of the article the citation text appears in order to edit it. For more, please see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:05, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

What template to use to cite an entire magazine issue?

I tried to use Template:Cite journal, leaving out the article name, but that caused some weird italics issues (italicizing date and URL instead of magazine title) and just looked generally screwed up how the template rendered it (footnote 21 in this diff). I was wondering if there was another template I could use (or a way to get that template to work correctly) so that I can cite the entire magazine in a way that matches the other refs in the article. Thanks. - Purplewowies (talk) 07:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is the reason but you did happen to not close the italics markup: magazine =''People: Special Collector's Edition. You forgot the two apostrophes after the word Edition. Dismas|^(talk) 08:23, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

The italics problem was probably my fault. I was copying various parts of the previous MLA format reference into the template, and I guess I accidentally copied the italics from the front end of the title. Oops. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

How about re-arranging the {{Citation}} parameters

{{Citation | title =''People: Special Collector's Edition'' | date = May 2009 | url = http://www.people.com/people/archive/issue/0,,7566090520,00.html}}

People: Special Collector's Edition, May 2009

which at least hides the ugly URL? -- John of Reading (talk) 08:24, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Use {{cite encyclopedia}}, which is for any edited collection:

• People: Special Collector's Edition. May 20, 2009 http://www.people.com/people/archive/issue/0,,7566090520,00.html. {{cite encyclopedia}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 08:40, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

or {{Citation |month = May |year=2009 | url = http://www.people.com/people/archive/issue/0,,7566090520,00.html |title=Dylan & Cole : Zack & Cody |magazine=People |issue=Special Collector's Edition}}

which renders as follows: "Dylan & Cole : Zack & Cody", People, no. Special Collector's Edition, 2009 {{citation}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

or {{cite magazine}} (which reditects to {{cite journal}}) instead of {{Citation}}, rendering as follows:

"Dylan & Cole : Zack & Cody". People. No. Special Collector's Edition. 2009. {{cite magazine}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

(I note that the article currently mixes the {{Citation}} template with {{Cite xxx}} templates.) Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 09:08, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

They're all {{Cite xxx}} now. I didn't realize they were both being used (even though I was the one who added them). I also didn't know they weren't supposed to be used together, so I wouldn't have changed them if you hadn't brought that up.

On which citation template to use, I hadn't even thought of using {{cite journal}} and using the magazine subject/title itself as the article. I think that's the one I'll use. (I was expecting an answer like the {{Cite encyclopedia}} example, but I'm a bit reluctant to use that one since it says it's not for magazines and that {{cite journal}} should be used instead). Thanks to everyone who helped! :) - Purplewowies (talk) 21:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

disambiguating word for electronic 'bands'?

What is the accepting disambiguating word for a group of electronic musicians? I am referring to, amongst others, Truth (Dubstep Artist). Truth (band) does not seem appropriate and I am struggling to think of another way round it. doomgaze (talk) 10:22, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

What about Truth (musical ensemble) (see Musical ensemble). Just an idea, I am not too familiar with the terminology though. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Hmm the article seems to suggest that an ensemble is one that is able to perform live music, which doesn't work for this situation. I'm stumped. doomgaze (talk) 22:43, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

You could use a general disambiguating term, such as Truth (musicians). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 23:06, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Link to my site was removed from Wiki Article

I noticed earlier today that I started getting traffic from Wiki's page for The Roots' new album "Undun". I went there and found that my review of their album on my site had been placed there. I was kinda excited about that as that had never happened and I had no idea how to even go about that.

Not sure who put it on there, but I was appreciative. Then I noticed later on in the evening when I went there again to look up some info on the album, that the link was no longer there. It was in that little box that had the various reviews (metacritic, rolling stone, etc) and a link in the sources at the bottom. Now it's gone, and I was just wondering whether or not that was a mistake that it was removed and if not, what the reasoning behind removing it.

I'm not furious or anything like that, was just genuinely interested as it's a bit confusing for me.

Thank you for your time, and hope to hear from you.

For reference below I have linked to the wiki page as well as my review that was linked there earlier.

Gary Anderson www.searchingforchetbaker.com

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undun

http://www.searchingforchetbaker.com/2011/12/review-roots-undun.html 67.185.33.67 (talk) 10:40, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Gary. The review was removed in this edit by Dan56 (talk · contribs); as he didn't explain why he was doing what he was doing in his edit summary, I'll ask him whether he can explain here instead. I don't edit music / album articles, so I don't know what the accepted practice is for choosing which reviews to use, but it might be that blog-type reviews aren't favoured as much as reviews in magazines / newspapers / established online sites. Bencherlite^Talk 10:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia has guidelines on reliable sources, self published sources (i.e. blogs) and external links. Sites such as the above are not permitted as they are self published (anyone can resister a blogspot account write what they want in a blog) and are subject to no editorial control. Яehevkor ✉ 10:57, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I was dealing with a mess of vandalism through that article that included removal of professional reviews and addition of reviews such as this, so I did not explain my overall edit. Same sentiment as the comment above this one, and WP:Albums guidelines/policies, at least some of them, should be reviewed before making edits to them: Review sites or WP:Albums/Article body ("When choosing which reviews to include, consider the notability of the review source and keeping a neutral point of view"). Dan56 (talk) 20:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Catholic youth associations of French Algeria

Hello everybody!

Currently, the harv template is not functioning properly, regarding this specific article, given that syntax appears to be slightly different as what seems to be specifically relating to en.wp.

Is there an expert regarding this specific topic who would kindly have a look at this issue and see how it could be solved?

Thank you so much in advance!

Kindest regards!

euphonie ^breviary
11:00, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I believe my edit has fixed it; you can now jump to the "Further Reading" section by clicking on any of the "Fatès 2004" links in the references. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:15, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello, John of Reading!

Great! It works perfectly fine now.

Thank you for your help!

Best wishes!

euphonie ^breviary

13:23, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

submitting article from Sandbox

I think I did something wrong and need guidance. I am a new editor intent on writing many articles on the countryside and history of France. I wrote the article Roman Villas in Northwestern Gaul in my sandbox and thought I moved it to request for permanent status at the same time that I looked for a request for review template. I never found a way to submit it and now it appears to be of permanent status. I have submitted previous article from my userpage Chateau de la Motte, Joue du Plain, and it worked fine as far as I can tell, although I have not received any acceptance notice. Are these articles accepted? and if so then in the future what should route should I take on shorter articles I anticipate writing? thank you in advance for any guidance.Mlane (talk) 13:42, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

There is no formal "acceptance" or "submission" process. Users are encouraged to create articles in a sandbox first, so that they can be worked on over time without fear of speedy deletion, but that is not mandatory. So your articles are now in mainspace and look pretty good. There is a little copyediting required and I will take a look in a moment. – ukexpat (talk) 14:37, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

This move is where you moved the article from your sandbox to mainspace. Unless there is something wrong with an article, that is all you need to do. (If someone had thought the article was inappropriate and should be deleted, they would notify you on your user talk page.) There is also a Wikipedia:Article wizard process: I have never used it but I understand that as a last step it submits draft articles for review at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Even then (if I understand correctly) you are notified only if the article needs work; successful submissions are simply moved to main space. —teb728 t c 01:36, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Help with a parserfunction/Magic Word

Do we have a system variable / Magic Word / parserfunction that returns the size, in bytes, of a particular page? Something like {{PAGESINCAT}} or the like? I can't seem to find anything that would work. I have pagecounts on my userpage of various categories of article (Speedy Deletion candidates, mostly), and I'd like to replace the mostly unused Category:Articles for deletion using wrong syntax with the quite useful User:Snotbot/AfD report. But the bot report isn't category, nor does it place articles listed into a category - so I'd put the byte count (and subtract 183, that being the size when no articles are listed). Anything non-zero indicates that the bot report found a malformed or mis-closed AFD. Is there a way to make this work? UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 14:53, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, {{PAGESIZE:Wikipedia:Help desk}} displays as 98,982. See Help:Magic words. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:12, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Embarassingly, I had - and skimmed right past it. Thanks! UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 15:18, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Another "Request for feedback" (should be quick i think!)

I created a draft for Unicoi Systems, a company in Cumming, GA: draft of "Unicoi Systems". Currently, only Dirk Beetstra and myself have worked on it. My biggest concern is notability. Dtate888 (talk) 16:36, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I just see how it meets WP:CORP, our standards for notability of companies. Recognition by local groups like TAG don't add up to notability as we measure it. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:42, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for looking into it. But I guess I'll keep the page in case the notability increases sometime in the future. Dtate888 (talk) 17:01, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Help with templates

All the pages here (the ones about projection) all have Template:Views on them, which has File:Example.jpg on it. I got my bot to revert this but they all seem to still have it on somewhere, and I can't work out where, but they stay on the WhatLinksHere. Any suggestions? Rcsprinter123 (rap) 16:45, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

The results from "WhatLinksHere" are not necessarily up to date; those articles will disappear from the list eventually when the servers catch up. If you wish, you can make it happen sooner with a null edit on each of those articles. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:59, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Upload Company Logo?

My account is less than 4 days old and I am wanting to add a company logo to my first page I am attempting to wikify, any help would be appreciated. The subject is "PretoSkills Alliance" Thanks in advance and I look forward to many more edits! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Limerick1988 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

What does the logo look like? In order to add the logo to PetroSkills Alliance it has to be uploaded first. However, it is necessary to determine the copyright status of the image. Can you perhaps point to a website, where the logo can be seen? It is important to know, whether the logo is just a simple text logo or if it contains more complex shapes. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:14, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

www.petroskills.com it is in the top left of the page, thanks!

(Limerick1988 (talk) 20:50, 6 December 2011 (UTC))

Request for help with new article

I'd appreciate if someone would please review GlowCode, provide any feedback, and remove the "New unreviewed article tag." GlowCode is a performance analysis tool, aka "profiler," used by software engineers, programmers. (Previously, there had been a link to GlowCode on the following page: List of performance analysis tools, but the GlowCode page itself had no content.) Thank you! Esigc (talk) 17:28, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Worlds Biggest Liar Competition, 2011.

Sir, I would just like to point out that the current Worlds Biggest Liar is no longer Paul Burrows but Glen Boylan from Maryport who won the Competition in November, you can get information on the winner by going onto the Times and Star website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.122.61 (talk) 17:23, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

If you like, and if you have a source for that, you can go to World's Biggest Liar and add the information yourself. Or some kind editor can track it down for you. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 17:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I have updated the article. Though there seems to be two versions of the winning story... one involving a snail race and another involving a mayonnaise and peanut butter sandwich. The only thing they have in common is Prince Charles. :D -- Obsidi♠n Soul 18:27, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Something weird

Can anyone have a look at Portal:Fashion please, the image on the right I'm seeing has something to do with Gandhi, Nehru and Jinnah and Indo-Pakistani peace, but when I click on the Image, I get this. I don't know if this is intentional (:|) or whatever. Lynch7 17:54, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

It was supposed to be the image of the lady, but someone had uploaded a different picture over the same filename; it was undone, but the thumbnail version didn't update (for some reason). I've now forced it to update (by changing the picture size from 200px to 199px), and I think it is OK.  Chzz  ►  17:57, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

... and I've done the same at History of fashion design which had suffered from the same problem. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:02, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks guys :) Lynch7 18:15, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Information to Improve Stubs

My deceased step father is the subject of several different Wikipedia stubs. My family has lots of information on the man and his work. However, there seems no way to add information to "improve the stub", since the added information would have no verifiable citation. Any way around this problem? It seems silly to add information, only to have it removed as unverifiable. Sidewise (talk) 19:38, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Verfiability is one of the cornerstones of Wikipedia. As a tertiary source, Wikipedia in essence collates material from other verifiable sources. If you can get the information that you have published somewhere, perhaps by donating it to a library or museum, we may be able to make use of it. – ukexpat (talk) 19:47, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Adding a 'Reference'?

Hello,

I am not by any means an expert on I.T., I was shown how to use a computer by one of my Sons, who is very far away and very busy.

The questions I wanted to ask were:

How do I add a reference to a page?

The info I wanted to add is as follows:

I was in Band as a teenager, one of the first 'Rock and Roll' Bands, it was back in the '60's', I was with the band for three years, but then left due to several differences. Later on, I met someone with an unsigned Band who later became famous, I told Him about my experiences with the Band and that I had one or two friends in the buisiness and might be able to help get them a recording contract as I thought the Band was really great and had 'original' material. They got signed and the second record they made, was the name of my Band and it became a 'Hit', their first 'Hit' and still the favorite with their fans, who don't know anything about me or the connection to the Band I was in.

Could I add a reference to the Band I was in an an explanation, plus mention the songs which have my name in?

There is a page on the famous Band, whose Singer I met before they were signed, before they used the name of the Band I was in for a single that became a 'Hit'.

Brasstapewound

I can 'verify' this information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brasstapewound (talk • contribs) 20:17, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to wikipedia Brasstapewound. Wikipedia verifies information from published, reliable, secondary sources. We don't verify material from personal correspondence or life experience, as these aren't available in a fixed form for inspection, they're not reviewed through an editorial system for correctness, and they're too closely related to the topic to avoid fundamental biases. Have you considered being interviewed by a music journalist or social historian of rock who may be interested in your information, and may eventually publish it? Wikipedia could rely on that publication for the fact, as a publication in a recognised, edited music newspaper or magazine would be reliable. Fifelfoo (talk) 20:24, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello Fifelfoo, the Band I was in was an R.A.F./Army Band, who did get world famous and after I left, didn't get offered any more contracts, as being a Woman Rock Guitarist at the time, (1963-5,) was quite unusual. There will be records of that Band, because most of the Band were R.A.F. or Army, so both the R.A.F and the Army will hold records. Lots of people who know me have suggested I write a book or add the information to Wikepedea, but I don't kow any 'Rock Historians', perhaps you could suggest one?

So let me get this straight, you say unless there was some kind of 'Publication' about me, anyone can say they are me or were in the Band I was in or call themselves by that name or call their Band the same name and claim the 'Copyright' , ( does that mean a 'COPY'?) Anyone can call their new song by the name of the Band I was in and again claim the 'Copyright'!? I used to wear my hair in a 'Buffount', but now apperently it was an original style by another Woman? (who is now deceased.)

So anything written in the 'Wikepedea' is now Gospel? Strange there is NO mention of me on the Band's page, which is now owned by the people who have claimed 'Copyright'? The 'Star' died, much of His Music mentions MY name, but the 'Copyright' is owned by people who don't even know who I am!!!!

"May EVENTUALLY puplish it"???? I am 63, I do not want to go looking for Historians or Publishers, I do NOT need or want 'Fame', I was urged to attempt to let the truth be known, I tried.

So much for the TRUTH! 'History' is written by the winners of WAR, the losers get nothing! 'Wikipedea' is quite obviously no exception!

The BrassTapewound strings were called "____ ____" They were mine.

Brasstapewound (talk) 22:31, 6 December 2011 (UTC)--Brasstapewound (talk) 22:31, 6 December 2011 (UTC) Brasstapewound

Yes, this is unfortunately the way that things go. You could try writing a memoir and seek to get your notes, papers, and memoir deposited in a social history archive, and hope after you're dead that someone will write it up reliably. We rely on reliability, not truth. If you notice uncited material on wikipedia that you believe to be wrong, you can remove it; but, please also post to the article's Talk: page explaining why you removed the content. But you can't add material that cannot be proved from publication to be correct. Many of the publications open to publishing material from members of the public don't meet wikipedia's reliability criteria. If you contact Universities local to you, it may be possible to find a sympathetic historian. Additionally, the historians and archivists associated with the British military may have some interest in your material. Fifelfoo (talk) 03:14, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

New editors need feedback

Hey guys. I feel bad about being here because this is not the route by means of which I ought to be going for this kind of help, but I am over my head and need some assistance. Wikipedia:Requests for feedback directs here, by the way. There is a campus ambassador program on Wikipedia wherein university professors have their students edit articles as part of the classwork. I think this is a great way to introduce people to editing Wikipedia, but there are some problems with this new program.

Right now the problem I am facing is that I have a class which made articles and they are saying that they want a little more community review. I would appreciate anyone going to any of their articles and giving feedback on what should be changed - lots of short comments from different people would be great.

For the long term, if anyone has any ideas about how to get support for new users then please join/start conversations on the campus ambassador boards. I have a more full explanation here - User:Bluerasberry/jumpqueue. Thanks for any attention you can give. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:29, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Lack of citation sources

I contributed an article some time ago about a software product that was historically important in a particular technological area. The product is long dead but the architecture was sufficiently different that it influenced the industry. There is now a note on that site that says it needs citations. Unfortunately, being a dead commercial product means there is little that can be cited in the public domain. As the software architect for the organisation from 1987-2002, my knowledge is reliable. However, even though I tried to write an objective report, I understand that I cannot cite myself as a reliable source. Is that true? How should I proceed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonyproctor (talk • contribs) 20:43, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I am afraid that personal knowledge is not sufficient as it is not verifiable. Note that sources do not have to be online: articles in print magazines etc if they exist can be used as sources, preferably using the appropriate {{Cite}} template. – ukexpat (talk) 20:50, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Unable to access articles

Repeated attempts to view references under 'right to petition' resulted in (1) first a message that my search had 'timed out'-- I don't know what this means or how to respond to it; (2) nest my browser was taken over by an unidentifiable site that kept duplicating itself and would not respond to 'X' close, finally had to shut down my browser to stop it; (3) finally I reopened my browser at the last page viewed and got the message: 'error has occurred, pls try again later'. I did try again with a new search and got the same 'error' message. It feels like I am being denied access to these articles, which can't be, right? Please advise. Thanks. scate39 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scate39 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry you had this trouble. Can you tell us the name or URL of the Wikipedia article that you were looking at, and the footnote number that had this unhelpful link? -- John of Reading (talk) 21:42, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for answering. My initial search was "Right to Petition". Sorry, I didn't get the heading etc, but the article was exactly what I was looking for. The references I was trying to access were (1) 'S.1 An omnibus 'ethics reform bill' that contained a provision Section 220 to establish federal regulations for the first time of certain efforts to encourage grassroots lobbying, ie, voluntary efforts of members of the general public', and (2) Section 220. A few minutes ago I tried once more with a new in to Wikipedia and a change in search to 'Constitutional Right to Petition' and got to Honest Leadership and Open Govt Act of 2007' but no lead from that to Section 220. I want to see what efforts Congress has made to legislate control over our right to petition. Many thanks. scate39 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scate39 (talk • contribs) 23:16, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

The link in footnote 3 of Right to petition is faulty: whoever added the reference must have done a search, and then just pasted the URL into Wikipedia without realising that the URL was not a permanent link to the resource they had found, but a link to the particular search they were doing which found the resource. But the particular site (http://thomas.loc.gov) doesn't keep searches forever, and has expired that particular search. You can search for it again among the 110th congress bills at http://thomas.loc.gov/home/LegislativeData.php?&n=BillText&c=110, but I don't see a way to create a permanent URL for it. --ColinFine (talk) 00:26, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Article that I edited has disappeared

Its title is not showing with the various contributions. It is an article about Henry Landau 1892 - 1968, British spy. I have checked the deleted log and it does not come up there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wlzabi (talk • contribs) 22:24, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

You have an incomplete draft about Henry Landau at User:Wlzabi/Enter your new article name here. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:28, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

How to load profile picture in Wikipedia?

Hi,

How to load profile picture in Wikipedia? Can you please help me in this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhilash.sai (talk • contribs) 23:54, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by a "profile picture". Can you explain more about what you are having trouble with? --Jayron32 23:55, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I am trying upload a free-licence picture in wiki page. How to do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhilash.sai (talk • contribs) 00:05, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I also want to be an official editor. Can you help me?--Abhilash.sai (talk) 00:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, so it has articles, not profiles. To upload pictures to be used in articles, see WP:Image tutorial.

I don't know what you mean by an official editor. Anybody can be an editor, just by editing. Please read the links that somebody has put on your talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 00:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) There are no official editors. The list of official editors is the entire population of the world. You became one when you were born. As far as uploading images for use in encyclopedia articles, see Help:Files. --Jayron32 00:36, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Maybe by "official editor" they mean an autoconfirmed editor? Dismas|^(talk) 00:39, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Unlikely. The OP has been here since 2008, and has a few hundred edits. They've been autoconfirmed for a while. --Jayron32 00:46, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps they mean an administrator? - Purplewowies (talk) 00:54, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Dismas is right. Maybe since i am new to this editing work in Wikipedia, i am trying find out how Wikipedia works. But also i have seen some users who are Authors?? --Abhilash.sai (talk) 00:54, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Maybe Purplewowies is more right. I always been an Admin where ever i worked--Abhilash.sai (talk) 01:00, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Information on Administrators at Wikipedia can be found at WP:ADMIN. --Jayron32 04:12, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

December 7

Donation by mail

I want to donate to Wikipedia through mail because I don't prefer using a credit card.Is there a way to donate to Wikipedia through mail ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by John aziz57 (talk • contribs) 03:10, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, see here. Dismas|^(talk) 03:22, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Template:CSD-warn

Since I'm worthless for template coding, would someone kindly figure out what's wrong with this? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:31, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

It seems to be in working order, make sure you subst: it. Is there a particular circumstance where it doesn't appear to be working? Monty₈₄₅ 03:36, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I forgot to subst it, sorry for being a dope. But while I'm here, I might as well ask why it has Template:Sub st: at the top of it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:55, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

It is so that the additional uses of subst: in the template wait until the template is used before being substituted. There are <noinclude> tags that cause {{Sub_st:more markup}} to become {{Subst:more markup}} when someone transcludes the template. Unfortunately, there isn't a very good way to have the template display automatically on its own page as a result.Monty₈₄₅ 04:01, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Ah. No wonder I can never figure out the template system here; credit to all of you who work on them. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:14, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Confusion with "This sandbox has been placed in the article namespace. Move this page into your userspace."

I have just moved an article ("SEMF Pty Ltd") from my sandbox to Wikipedia. Now it has this in bold red at the top: "This sandbox has been placed in the article namespace. Move this page into your userspace." Under what circumstances should i move the page to my userspace? What should I do to get rid of this message and make sure the article is viewable to the public? Thanks. User:Wendyann83 Wendyann83 (talk) 04:11, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

While not directly responsive to your question, I think you should be alerted to the Notability Guidelines for companies. To be notable, a topic must have received substantive coverage by multiple independent reliable sources. Currently, the only references in the article are to the company website, and the external links don't solve the problem. The article also reads a bit like an advertisement, designed to promote the company, rather then a neutral encyclopedic coverage of the topic. If not corrected, either of these problems could result in the article being deleted. In response to your specific question, to remove that, delete the line that says {{User sandbox}}. If you want more time to work on the article without a risk that someone will start a deletion process against it, you can just move it back to your userspace. Monty₈₄₅ 04:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help and advice. I have passed on your good advice to my client. Wendyann83 (talk) 05:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

If you are talking about "clients" in the context of editing Wikipedia, you will save yourself a great deal of frustration, and probably some work, by reading WP:COI and WP:CORPFAQ before you do any further editing. --ColinFine (talk) 08:22, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I have reworded the {{User sandbox}} error message to avoid this confusion. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:41, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

WIKI BOOKS

i was creating a book on wiki book creator and it was almost done yesterday but to day its completly gone i dont know where to retrive my old book from plzz... help i cant create it once again ...:( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.164.130.130 (talk) 07:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Only users with accounts can save a book (see WP:Books#Saving and sharing your book with others). Creating an account is free and has other benefits. --ColinFine (talk) 08:26, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry that this isn't made clearer when you start to create a book; I've begun a discussion about this here. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:30, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Appeal link does not work

I feel sure this has been raised before, but I couldn't find it in a quick search of the help desk archives. The "personal appeal" link on the home page does not work for me at all. When I hover over it, the link appears active, but the URL shown at the foot of the page is just "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page#". Then when I click the link, nothing happens – I remain on the home page. I suspect this may be a browser issue – I'm using IE7. Many thanks, --Viennese Waltz 08:44, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I have copied your message to the Wikimedia website, where you may get better answers: please see meta:Talk:Fundraising_2011#Appeal link does not work.

You could also contact the fund-raising team by email, problemsdonating@wikimedia.org

 Chzz  ►  08:49, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

It was reported at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 December 4#Link at top of the page asking for donations (currently transcluded above at #Link at top of the page asking for donations). The user gave no feedback to replies so the cause was not determined. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Footnote 1 in Mongol invasion of Europe

Hello. Can anyone have a look at the first ref of this article? The wikicode using <ref name="Sourcesvary" /> looks correct to me. Thank you, Comte0 (talk) 08:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

The infobox assigns strength1 twice. Sourcesvary is defined the first time but the second time overrides the first which is discarded. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I've traced the problem to a bot edit. Weird. I'm moving the question to WT:MILHIST in the hope they know how to deal with that complicated template. Thank you, Comte0 (talk) 11:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I mean that the code in Mongol invasion of Europe assigns twice to strength1. A parameter should only be assigned once when a template is used. The solution is simply to edit the article and remove one of the assignments, possibly merging content from the other. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:09, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Donating to Wikipedia from Nigeria

Hi. I am a reader based in Nigeria and I am interested in donating to Wikipedia. I checked the page where a debit card can be used, but found that Nigeria is not listed in the dropdown list. What other options are available for me to use?

134.146.0.43 (talk) 10:39, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

In the green panel on the right of foundation:Fundraising, there are links including Other ways to give. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:01, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Contribution to Wikipedia

Hello All,

My name is (Redacted), I am Indian by nationality living in Abu Dhabi, UAE. I have great respect for Wikipedia for the wonderful things you are doing to the human kind. We are from an Age where to reach the Information required is quite a struggle and it required a lot of effort to share the information across. It is so joy to see how the information is coming in front of us. In the generation of "Time is money" and "information is wealth" the contribution done by you all is priceless.

From my heart I want to be a part of your team and serve the cause with all my interest and strength. I am currently handling the Application Support for a Well reputed Finance company in the Middle East.I lead a team of 20 members, we take care of the database performance, availability of the sites, handling the application errors, Monitoring the resources and handle the tasks which our application cannot serve. I am confident that with my experience I can be a good player in your wonderful team and can live with pride.

I have a Masters degree in Computer Applications from University of Madras, 2005. and possess IT experience of around 6 years. I am passionate about photogaphy and spend my free time for it.

P.S I am married to a Moldovan National and am of father of a 3 months baby girl. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sundergaru (talk • contribs) 10:59, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is run by the Wikimedia Foundation. Current job openings at the Foundation are listed here. Good luck. --Viennese Waltz 11:16, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Very short subsections

What is the minimal length a subsection (ie one under a level 3 heading) can / should have? The specific problem is, that I want to split Wieferich prime#Other properties into two subsections, since the way it currently is it looks too much like kind of a trivia section in my opinion. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:34, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

• There is no minimum length. If the two points in the section are distinct and both notable, then by all means have separate headings. For me, I would prefer it if the second point started with a full sentence of prose before you go into the formulas. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 11:49, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:00, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

administrator's help is required for the "carl hirschmann" articles

despite all links and references we have two individuals who repetedly modified and then blocked the page without taking into consideration fact and links references for the article Carl Hirschmann. Please look at the facts and corretc. thks --Bioplus (talk) 12:29, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

The material added by Bioplus was suppressed as personal information. He has been indefinitely blocked for violations of Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. This disclosure is made for information purposes only. User:Fred Bauder Talk 12:53, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Suitability of historical background in a novel as a subject for a Wiki article

We would like to create a Wiki article that discusses the historical background, and approach to writing, of a recently published historical novel. As the novel is self-published, we have searched the Wiki FAQ and read about Wikipedia's policy regarding such works as the subject for articles.

We have found a handful of novels, such as Shogun, Eragon, Elfquest, and others, that have Wiki articles. In particular, Shogun - while not self-published - discusses the historical basis for the story and characters, and seems a suitable model. Otherwise, we find that the majority of self-published novels have some additional merit, such as having been picked up by a major publisher, or making the best-seller lists, or having been made into a film; in a word, they have some maturity.

So we are wondering if our approach, that of discussing historical sources, issues of that day as they pertain to the events of the novel, and the representation of historical information as it is depicted in the novel, is sufficient to merit a place in Wikipedia.

Thank you, JamesLande (talk) 15:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

A self-published book is unlikely to meet the notability guidelines for books. In that event, the "background" stuff is unlikely to be notable either. – ukexpat (talk) 15:17, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

If, by any chance, you are to here to promote this book then you should also look through the Wikipedia guidelines on advertising and conflict of interest. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:18, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, as stated above, the short answer is no, I'd assume, unless the relationship between the material in question and the novel is itself discussed in published reliable sources, which seems unlikely - and then probably only if the novel meets the Wikipedia:Notability (books) guideline. Articles are supposed to be based on published sources, and not on the original research of contributors, which seems to be what you are suggesting here. Two questions though: what novel are you referring to, and are you by any chance connected with the author - if you are, you need to read our policy regarding conflicts of interest too. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:20, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

The worst thing would be to spend a long time working on this and then get it deleted. Unless the novel has received attention from reliable sources that is what might happen. If it has only recently been published it would be wise to wait a while for it to receive sufficient coverage. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 15:21, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

i want to request you

that you should add urdu language,,so that all users from Pakistan can get maximum benefits..we will be very thankful if you add URDU.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.186.48.16 (talk) 16:08, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Click here to jump to the Urdu Wikipedia. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:18, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

... and the foot of the Main Page of English Wikipedia has links to other Wikipedias. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:36, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

my user name appearing on the top of my sports Bio with wikipedia

could you please help me removing my user name from the top of my wikipedia sports article (bio) that appears everytime someone goggles my name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TJTY (talk • contribs) 16:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

If you want to remove your name (assuming that it is your name) from your user page, there is nothing to stop you doing so. Alternatively you can add __NOINDEX__ to the top of the user page to stop it being indexed by Google. If you are saying that you would like someone to write a Wikipedia article, as distinct from a user page, then you would need to demonstrate (through reliable sources) that the subject complies with the relevant notability guidelines, then get someone without a conflict of interest to write the article. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:51, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I have moved your user page to Treamelle Taylor. Please note that we have a policy, which you can read here, which says that you should not edit about yourself, except under very specific circumstances. Please also note that you do not own the page you have created and it may be deleted or criticism about you may be added, if reliably sourced. --Dweller (talk) 17:01, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I did a little clean up and wikifying, but needs references if it is to survive a possible speedy deletion. Astronaut (talk) 17:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Portal:Current_events

I was just browsing the current events portal and noticed that the date format on wikinews blue box differs from the two green boxes above and below.

Right now the green ones say 7 December 2011 and the blue one says December 7, 2011.

In some questioning on the discussion page itself, John of Reading wrote that:

This is caused by an inconsistency in Portal:Current_events/Inclusion, and would be easy to fix. It would need an admin, though, since it is a fully-protected page. But both formats are consistent with MOS:DATE, so how do we choose? -- John of Reading (talk) 21:36, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I personally am a fan of the DD Month YYYY format, but obviously either is fine so long as it's consistent.

How can we get this resolved? Where do we go from here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JByrd (talk • contribs) 17:36, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

MSGJ boldly changed {{Current events header}} to display d-m-y format two days ago. I boldly changed it back. — Edokter (talk) — 18:47, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Err, that move was two YEARS ago - 5 Dec 2009, not 5 Dec 2011! Bencherlite^Talk 01:09, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I see there is already a discussion between yourself and John of Reading at Portal talk:Current events, which is where the discussion should happen. If you need additional editors to comment, you could post a notice at WP:VPM or start a "request for comment", WP:RFC. It may just take time; not every problem gets resolved the day the problem is noticed, I would get some other editors a chance to comment, and give it a few days to see what date format the consensus comes to. --Jayron32 18:49, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

My Wikipedia page.

I want to take control of my wikipedia page. I am Chris Frazier. It was originally created by someone else. There is incomplete and incorrect information on it and every time I correct it it is changed back the next day. I want administrative control of my page please. Tell me what I have to do. Thanks, Chris Frazier Drumdevil (talk) 19:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

You misunderstand Wikipedia. Chris Frazier is not your Wikipedia page; it is a page about you (assuming that you are him). That page can be edited by nearly anyone, provided that the information they add is verifiable. The one person who, in general, should NOT be editing the page is you, as you have a conflict of interest; please read WP:COI for the guidelines. You most certainly can't have administrative control of the page. You have been given a number of useful pointers in links on your user talk page, so please take the trouble to read them. Another page which you can usefully read is Wikipedia:Autobiography. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:37, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

First, we do not know who you are. The old phrase is, "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog." You could be anyone who is claiming to be Chris Frazier.

Second, assuming you are Chris Frazier, the page Chris Frazier is not your page, It is a page about you. Nobody has administrative control of it. All changes are done through consensus and must meet Wikipedia guidelines of notability and verifiability. What you have been attempting to do is add unverified and non-notable information while deleting verified and notable information. For example, what makes Frazier notable is his time with Whitesnake. You deleted every comment about Whitesnake and added anecdotes about Frazier beating on things as an infant. It is not notable that he may or may not have beat on things as an infant.

Third, see WP:COI. If you are Chris Frazier, you obviously have a conflict of interest. This page will help explain problems and solutions for handling conflict of interest. -- kainaw™ 19:40, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Possible GeoGroupTemplate Error

I'm using Template:GeoGroupTemplate in this article User:Belovedfreak/Monuments. Although I like it a lot, I seem to have broken it. In the Blackburn with Darwen section the entry for Pleasington alum works gets moved a few miles across the map. At first I assumed I must have made an error but it only happens when viewing through Geogroup, not if you click on the coordinates in the entry. It seems to be replacing the longitude with one from another entry in the Pendle section. I’ve tried about 50 different experiments and I can’t figure out what I’ve done wrong. TIA --Trappedinburnley (talk) 19:32, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Update: It seems to have more or less fixed itself, so maybe it was some sort of caching issue at my end?--Trappedinburnley (talk) 20:14, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I'm seeing the marker at the same location (a wooded area between the ends of Alum Scar Lane and Billinge End Road) both directly through the {{coord}} link and through the GeoGroup link. Have you altered those coordinates since adding {{GeoGroupTemplate}} to the page? It takes Google Maps a while to reflect a change in coordinates through a GeoGroups link (as much as a day or two, in my experience). Deor (talk) 20:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

The URL's displayed by Google/Bing have "usecache=1" at the end. While I was playing with it just now I tried "usecache=0". Maybe, just maybe, that fixed it. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:20, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I did fix an error in the coordinates after adding (and using) Geogroup, so sense has returned to my universe. It's working fine now. Thanks for your time!--Trappedinburnley (talk) 20:54, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Symbol appearing in watchlist

I just created a new page at User:Toshio Yamaguchi/ToDo 01. In my watchlist, there appears N! in front of the edit. I know N says the edit created a new page. I never recognized the exclamation mark before. When I hover over the exclamation mark it says "This edit has not yet been patrolled". Is that a new watchlist feature or is this just coincidence, meaning I somehow missed that on previous pages I created because I watched them only after they had been patrolled? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:38, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Also in the bottom right corner of the page there is a link that reads [Mark this page as patrolled]. I also never recognized that. Has there some new feature being implemented where I somehow missed the discussion? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:52, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Must be your own obliviousness, because page patrolling has been a feature for about 4 years, seeWikipedia:New pages patrol/patrolled pages. I've been around long enough to remember when it was implemented, but unless you are a regular at WP:NPP you may not encounter it usually. --Jayron32 19:58, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

The watchlist exclamation mark is new; previously you'd only see [Mark this page as patrolled] if you visited the page via Special:NewPages. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:09, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

You may have missed the discussion here a week ago? - David Biddulph (talk) 22:11, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes I missed that discussion. I am currently not that active on Wikipedia for a variety of reasons. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 22:17, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I understand the purpose behind adding that; however, for a new page to appear on my Watchlist I would have had to create it so the notification doesn't do a lot of good. Does anyone know if there has ever been discussion about letting you know if a certain user creates a page? (I can see the danger of hounding in what I just said) Ryan Vesey Review me! 22:32, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

first class construction

I have been looking for meaning and uses in construction. I can't locate anywhere and its a common phrase with no explanation. I am looking for "first class construction". What exactly does that stand for, perimters??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cecilia30 (talk • contribs) 19:58, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 --Orange Mike | Talk 20:02, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

enter my company

hello, I have owned and operated a registered company for 23 years and would like it to show up on Wikipedia. I manufacture monogrammed baby and wedding books and have customers all over the world but mostly sell within the USA. How can I show up on your site? Susie Burns, owner of Way Cool Designs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.123.189.216 (talk) 20:28, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

You seem to be mistaken. Wikipedia is not a business directory. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. You may be interested in reading Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. --Jayron32 20:30, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Videolog.tv

I created an article about the portuguese video provider Videolog.TV (mirror here: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videolog.tv) and it was simply deleted. The reason: speedy deletion, section A7 - No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content).

In the portuguese mirror, it says (and I quote what I remember saying in the EN mirror, translating the original text). I didn't used those exact words, but what I am writing below is what was said in that article. Nothing more and nothing less.

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Videolog is a video-sharing website on which users can upload, share, and view videos. Created in May 2004 by Ariel Alexandre e Edson Mackeenzy, it became one of the main providers from Brazil.

Since November 2010, it was partnered with the news portal R7.

Popularity

Since December 2011, Videolog.tv is ranked #300 in Alexa's brazilian traffic rank, and #12404 in the statistic of globally visited sites.

Features

Videolog allows the user to upload videos limited to 25 minutes and 400 MB, except for Videologgers PRO where the max filesize is up to 700 MB and unlimited lenght.----

One reason that justifies the article being here in the Wikipedia is this line "Since November 2010, it became part of the news portal R7". R7 article here: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/R7

And the source from the "partnership": http://noticias.r7.com/tecnologia-e-ciencia/noticias/videolog-maior-comunidade-de-videos-no-brasil-chega-ao-r7-20101101.html

It belongs to a brazilian television network, as you can see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rede_Record

I don't buy the "largest video provider in the country", this can be a way of drawing more people, and it would be inaccurate to write such things in any article from Wikipedia without proof or valid sources. That's why I changed that part to "one of the main video providers from Brazil" in the PT article as well, I mean something like that is more encyclopedic.

What do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perene (talk • contribs) 20:29, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

As an administrator, I can read deleted articles. The problem with the article was that there was nothing in the way it was written to indicate that the website was important in any way. However, if you would like to spend more time working on the article, I can move the (now deleted) article into your "userspace" as a draft article (see WP:DRAFT and WP:USERFY), and that should give you more time to spend crafting an article which can avoid deletion. Would you like that? --Jayron32 20:34, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

As the deleting administrator, I'll point out that each Wikipedia has its own criteria for inclusion. For the English Wikipedia, the criteria for inclusion for companies and web sites are described in WP:CORP. What part of WP:CORP does this videolog.tv meet? ~Amatulić (talk) 20:36, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

• OK, sorry. I recognize there's no indication from the importance of this website alone, but what do you think about the partnership with the R7 portal I just explained? I mean, if R7 itself is a website like CNN and even has an article in the portuguese Wikipedia, and R7 belongs to the 3rd brazilian TV network (Rede Record - the other two are Rede Globo and Sistema Brasileiro de Televisão, how that does not qualify Videolog for being listed in the english Wikipedia? R7 also mentioned Videolog in this page about their partnership, so it's not just a website that a few people know that exist.

Amatulic, I believe this part will meet WP:CORP:

"Audience

The source's audience must also be considered. Evidence of attention by international or national, or at least regional, media is a strong indication of notability. On the other hand, attention solely from local media, or media of limited interest and circulation, is not an indication of notability; at least one regional, national, or international source is necessary."

Then again, I could be wrong. Perene (talk) 20:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

• Amatulic, another source I didn't even knew until now (I did a search) and didn't even mentioned in the deleted article:

http://oglobo.globo.com/tecnologia/brasileira-samba-tech-compra-videolog-2867446

As you can see, Videolog has some importance and was even mentioned by this famous newspaper: O Globo which belongs to: "Globo Organization, the largest media conglomerate of South America[citation needed], founded in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, in 1925 by Irineu Marinho. It also owns companies on the food industry and the real estate and financial markets." Perene (talk) 20:50, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

• More sources that validate this claim:

http://thenextweb.com/la/2011/09/06/brazilian-online-video-interesting-move-as-samba-tech-buys-videolog-tv/ (written in english) http://www.adnews.com.br/pt/negocios/samba-tech-compra-o-videolog.html http://www.telaviva.com.br/06/09/2011/samba-tech-adquire-a-videolog/tl/239316/news.aspx http://idgnow.uol.com.br/mercado/2011/09/06/samba-tech-compra-comunidade-de-videos-online-videolog/ http://www.valor.com.br/empresas/999116/samba-tech-compra-videolog-e-mira-al http://economia.ig.com.br/mercados/samba+tech+adquire+videolog/n1597196076818.html http://economia.uol.com.br/ultimas-noticias/valor/2011/09/05/samba-tech-adquire-videolog.jhtm http://exame.abril.com.br/pme/noticias/sambatech-compra-a-videolog

iG = see Internet Group - brazilian portal UOL = see Universo Online - "UOL once known as Universo Online, is a Brazilian online service provider and internet service provider. It is the leader in Latin America and the homepage portal is the biggest in the Portuguese speaking world. UOL is currently ranked at Alexa TOP 100." Abril = see Grupo Abril = "the second largest Brazilian media conglomerate with its headquarter in São Paulo. The group is the holding company of Editora Abril, who publishes the weekly newsmagazine Veja".

The news report says that Videolog was purchased by a company named "Samba Tech". If the article is restored a quick note about this can be added, I did that minutes ago in the portuguese mirror.

There, you have it, more than enough reasons to restore this article. If you can, please move to my userspace and I will edit what I didn't mentioned (about this "Samba Tech" deal, which I believe was the only thing missing from qualifying the article to be here). Perene (talk) 22:13, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I have userfied the article to User:Perene/Videolog.tv. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:55, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Image-display problem

The panoramic image of the Bayeux Tapestry (File:Tapisserie de Bayeux 31109.jpg} is not displaying properly for me at the bottom of the section Bayeux Tapestry#Construction, design and technique in our article. All I see is a thin vertical line in the middle of the thumbnail box. I am seeing it properly, however, at the bottom of the lead of the German WP article. Any idea what the problem may be? (My browser is IE8 if that's relevant.) Deor (talk) 20:35, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

That's definitely a browser issue. I tested in Safari and Internet Explorer. It displays properly in Safari, but in IE I just get that thin vertical line you describe. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 20:46, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

OK, I guess my question now is, How can it be fixed for me and other IE users? The template syntax used in the article appears to be exactly the same as that used for the example image in Template:Panorama/doc, and that example displays fine for me. Deor (talk) 21:08, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

It appears IE has a width limit of 16384 pixels in some situations. [[File:Tapisserie de Bayeux 31109.jpg|16384px]] works for me in IE but not [[File:Tapisserie de Bayeux 31109.jpg|16385px]]. This means the panorama works in IE at height 185 but fails at anything above. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:44, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've adjusted the height in the article accordingly. Not the best solution, perhaps, but the browser is sufficiently used that I think it's better than leaving it the way it was. Deor (talk) 01:11, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Setting the sort order for a category without touching each article

For the wikipedia category Category:Redirects_from_German_language_terms, every page title in category is known to be in German, because this is the membership condition for the category. Is there a way to get the category to recognise this and sort umlaut-bearing characters appropriately? I'm aware that I could go through all the members of the category and add a default sort entry, but I was hoping for something that didn't involve that. This issue effects many subcategories of Category:Redirects_from_non-English_language_terms. Stuartyeates (talk) 23:29, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't know of any way to do this. At this VPT archive there is a discussion of a special sort required for one particular category, but nothing came of it. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:00, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

This is so that (for example) Große Fass comes before Grosslage and Sozialdemokratische Partei Österreichs comes before Sozialdemokratische Partei Südtirols and the entire Ö gets folded in with O, right? (Just curious)Naraht (talk) 16:34, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

From http://www.mail-archive.com/wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org/msg44979.html , it appears that {{SORTAS:de}} would work, but maybe that's not installed in this wikipedia. I can't find anything with SORTAS as a magic word.Naraht (talk) 16:34, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

December 8

How do I create this page?

Hi there, how do I create a page which will be very similar to the Master Locksmiths Associationv page without you guys pulling it down for blatant advertsing or self promotion? I'd like to include information about the Master Locksmiths Association of Australasia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morro10 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Have you read Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations? --Jayron32 04:23, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

a bout smile to africa adventure

do you know that smile to Africa adventure like wikipedia discussion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smileto africa (talk • contribs) 06:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Welcome. I guess you are referring to http://www.smiletoafricaadventure.com/. I don't exactly understand your question, but if you want to create an article about that organization here in Wikipedia, you will have to establish that organizations notability (see the specific specific guidelines for organizations). Also, we have a policy regarding the appropriateness of usernames. Yours might not comply with WP:CORPNAME. It might also be helpful to read about what Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Introduction to get an impression of what the purpose of Wikipedia is. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 08:18, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

User now blocked per the really obvious username issue. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 14:45, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Purusha Sukta

My question concerns information on Wikipedia about the "Purusha Sukta." Wikipedia is asking for "experts" to comment on the page about this ancient Indian literary contribution, which the UNESCO placed on the World Heritage list. I would like to edit the page to add the fact that the central thesis of the Purusha-Sukta--which is the origin of the caste system in India--does not say anywhere that one is born a Brahman, or a Sudra. Once can discern that simply from reading what the text says. How can I edit the page? I am a professor at Minnesota State University in the US. - Dr. Patil — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.91.101.54 (talk) 09:47, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

There is an EDIT tab at the top of the page. The article in question has been "tagged" as needing the attention of an expert, so your contribution would be welcome. As an academic, you will be familiar with the idea that statements have to be supported by reliable references. That would include any "fact" that is likely to be challenged or disputed. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 10:28, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

If you've not edited anything here before, then you may like to look at Help:Editing and Wikipedia:Cheatsheet. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:33, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

One difference between Wikipedia and academia is that Wikipedia does not accept original research. Information here must be based on what is already published in reliable sources. —teb728 t c 13:18, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

My wikipedia page is appearing on Facebook

We have created a page on wikipedia, but some of the content appears on Facebook in a search for our company name. How can I control this?

Vpltd (talk) 10:46, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

You can't and we can't - facebook automatically pulls content from Wikipedia to populate it's pages. --Cameron Scott (talk) 10:47, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:52, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Vpltd - in simple terms, you have no ownership or control over your contributions to Wikipedia. Within fairly broad limits, anyone may amend or reuse your Wikipedia contributions as they wish. You may find it helpful to read our policy on ownership of articles and our guideline on conflicts of interest. Gandalf61 (talk)

What's all the Hubbub, bub?

I recently saw an article about the Phoenix AZ haboob and wondered if it was etymologically related to the word "hubub" and so I searched for the word hubbub in your archive but wound up in some article about a goddamned awful discovery channel venture. Though I eventually found out, on dictionary.com, that hubbub comes from Gaelic for a sound of opprobrium or discord I was wondering if a disambiguation page linking to both the literal meaning of the word as well as the discovery channel product might be in order? Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.253.236 (talk) 11:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't aim to be a dictionary; you might like to look at the sister project Wictionary. I have this installed as one of my browser's search options and use it constantly. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:46, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

There's a page on it at Wiktionary. - Purplewowies (talk) 15:48, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Article

Dear Wikipedia, I am writing a research paper for school and I used your website for information. I am now writing my bibliography and I need to know when it was written. I am doing the Colosseum and it is really important for me. Please help. From, WIkipedia User — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.38.100.57 (talk) 14:07, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:12, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Needs a better navigation:

• Preaching To The Perverted (album)
• Preaching to the Perverted (movie)
• Preaching To The Perverted (movie soundtrack) [2] by Fuzztones

Thank you, 93.130.157.5 (talk) 15:16, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Don't forget The Best of Pigface: Preaching to the Perverted. It seems a disambiguation page at Preaching To The Perverted/Preaching to the Perverted (one redirecting to the other) would be useful, instead of Preaching To The Perverted and Preaching to the Perverted each redirecting to separate articles. --Colapeninsula (talk) 16:20, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Looks like Kittybrewster is sorting this one out. Thanks for bringing it up. Яehevkor ✉ 16:26, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Tried to. Not convinced of their notability. Don't understand why the film#soundtrack does not have the same tracks as the Fuzztones album. Kittybrewster ☎ 17:15, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Roxanna Panufnik

The entry on me, in Wikipedia, is several years out of date and doesn't mention my website. How can I update it? Best wishes, Roxanna Panufnik — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.179.130 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

The article Roxanna Panufnik does have a link to your website. In general, you should not update an article about yourself, so it is good that you asked; please read the guidelines on conflict of interest. Your best bet may be to suggest changes at Talk:Roxanna Panufnik, with references to reliable sources for the information. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:46, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Article has a misleading sentence

The article states that autopsy is performed by a pathologist by a request from a coroner or a medical examiner. This is slightly misleading, since medical examiners are "forensic pathologists" and they perform autopsies by themselves. States where elected coroners are present instead of medical examiners, coroners examine the bodies just like medical examiners do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.185.158.21 (talk) 17:23, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for editing the article yourself and making Wikipedia better! We appreciate your contributions.--Slon02 (talk) 23:30, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Editing Reference Links

hey there, I was on David Berman the musician's page and noticed that the link to Pitchfork's article about the band ending was broken, and I wrote to them and got the updated link, which is:

http://www.pitchfork.com/news/34455-silver-jews-david-berman-calls-it-quits/?utm_campaign=search&utm_medium=site&utm_source=search-ac

it is cited as references 3 and 4 on the page. is reference link editing only an option for registered users?

thank you! Matthew — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.8.92.199 (talk) 17:24, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

You should be able to edit it. Click on the little blue a link ^a alongside the reference 3 in the reference section, and that will take you to where the reference is defined. Click the edit link at the top of that section. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:36, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

I've fixed it, but David is correct. You can also look at Help:Footnotes for more information. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Username for a New Account Regarded as too Similar

Hello,

I was trying to make a user account with my standard web username "barcarole". I saw that it had been taken, and when I sought to use my typical alternative "b4rcarole", I was told is was too close to the user who had "barcarole". As it stands, it appears that the user "barcarole" doesn't even utilize their account for anything, not that I wish to take their username, but I would really like to use "b4rcarole". I have come across multiple articles from time to time that have been vandalized and reverted them and wanted to edit others, so I wanted to make an account, but I would like to operate under a common username of mine. Thank you.

-Tommy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.110.242.7 (talk) 17:58, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest that you read WP:Usurp. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:08, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

st. catharines jail

The St. Catharines Jail did not exist. It was the Lincoln County Jail, on Niagara Street. Here is a picture of it:

http://www.nflibrary.ca/nfplindex/show.asp?id=101220&b=1

If you search St. Catharines Jail you will find it also listed in the Ontario Jails, closed.

Interesting to note- this particular jail was used as a restaurant for a very short period of time before it was demolished. People were actually HUNG on the grounds as well when it was a prison- I remember the the gallows outside when walking by as a kid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.89.190 (talk) 21:10, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

st. catharines jail

The St. Catharines Jail did not exist. It was the Lincoln County Jail, on Niagara Street. There is a picture of it if someone checks in the Niagara Falls Library archive photos.

If you search St. Catharines Jail you will find it also listed in the Ontario Jails, closed.

Interesting to note- this particular jail was used as a restaurant for a very short period of time before it was demolished. People were actually HUNG on the grounds as well when it was a prison- I remember the the gallows outside when walking by as a kid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.89.190 (talk) 21:10, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

What is K5 Glass? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.115.253.163 (talk) 22:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

IPA code for Danish

Hello, I was trying to add an IPA for the Egtved Girl article, because the Danish word 'Egtved' is difficult to pronounce in English, but I was unsuccessful. For some reason I can't get the IPA code right. I don't plan on having an audio pipe on the IPA. Thanks, --GouramiWatcher ^(Gulp) 23:29, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Search Wikipedia for Montrose Star and I get Houston Voice

I own Montrose Star. A former independent contractor, Justin Galloway, is deceiving the public by changing our Wiki page to read Houston Voice.

How can I stop him from accessing and editing our wikipedia page?

lv (talk) 23:55, 8 December 2011 (UTC)