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Check mail. RlevseTalk 17:02, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Scouting WikiProject in the Signpost

We'll be in the Signpost on Wednesday, 2 Jan about 17:00 UTC, someone noticed us, be sure to read it, many of us get it, read it on my talk page if you like. RlevseTalk 01:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

FU images

Thanks for fixing those two images. I got four hits on my talk page. I went to the history of MB article and several more needing fixing, so I've done that. RlevseTalk 12:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I was working those and got an edit conflict with you and let you finish the job. Went back to the Eagle List for a bit. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Camp Yawgoog

Thank you for your critique of Camp Yawgoog. Many of the changes you suggested have been implemented and I appreciate additional feedback.

--Mikemarseglia (talk) 14:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Heh, I just left you a message! --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Eagle Scouts

Per changes recently made to Christian Jacobs: Where are you doing your online search for Eagle Scouts? I just searched Google, Yahoo!, and Lycos for my own name and for the names of six other known Eagles, and came up with nothing. Unless you have access to the BSA official records, you ought not to be attempting these verifications. -- Struhs (talk) 20:39, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I would not expect to find my own name either, as I don't meet notability. I'm working a backlog of entries for List of Eagle Scouts (Boy Scouts of America). I'm guessing someone added Jacobs at one point without a citation and the entry was removed to the todo list. Without a proper reference, he can't be added to the list and should not have the category. I did find news references for several other potential entries and got them properly added yesterday. We really can't use BSA records anyway since they are not published. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Boy Rangers of America

It ran the normal full course of 6 hours on DYK, at which time it was removed. All I did was credit the article and credit User talk:Truthanado who was listed in the next update. Royalbroil 13:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks; I had just figured that out and was going to get back to you, --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations, the article was a DYK. I'm not sure why I was given credit, the article is clearly yours; all I did was nominate it. Good work. Truthanado (talk) 02:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Updated DYK query On 4 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Boy Rangers of America, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Royalbroil 05:08, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I never did a DYK before, so I was not aware of how it worked. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 02:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter — Issue XXII (December 2007)

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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter
Issue XXII (December 2007)
Project news
Articles of note

New featured articles:

  1. Battle of Albuera
  2. Battle of Dyrrhachium (1081)
  3. Battle of the Gebora
  4. Constantine II of Scotland
  5. Francis Harvey
  6. Vasa (ship)
  7. Wulfhere of Mercia

New A-Class articles:

  1. 1962 South Vietnamese Presidential Palace bombing
  2. Evacuation of East Prussia
Current proposals and discussions
Awards and honors
  • Blnguyen has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his efforts in improving the quality of articles related to Vietnamese military history, including the creation of numerous A-Class articles.
  • Woodym555 has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his outstanding work on topics related to the Victoria Cross, notably including the creation of featured articles, featured lists, and a featured topic.
  • For their outstanding efforts as part of Tag & Assess 2007, Bedford, TomStar81, and Parsival74 have been awarded the gold, silver, and bronze Wikis, respectively.
Tag & Assess 2007

Tag & Assess 2007 is now officially over, with slightly under 68,000 articles processed. The top twenty scores are as follows:

1. Bedford — 7,600
2. TomStar81 — 5,500
3. Parsival74 — 5,200
4. FayssalF — 3,500
5. Roger Davies — 3,000
6. Ouro — 2600
7. Kateshortforbob — 2250
8. Cromdog — 2,200
9. BrokenSphere — 2000
9. Jacksinterweb — 2,000
9. Maralia — 2,000
12. MBK004 — 1,340
13. JKBrooks85 — 1,250
14. Sniperz11 — 1100
15. Burzmali — 1000
15. Cplakidas — 1000
15. Gimme danger — 1000
15. Raoulduke471000
15. TicketMan — 1000
15. Welsh — 1000
15. Blnguyen — 1000

Although the drive is officially closed, existing participants can continue tagging until January 31 if they wish, with the extra tags counting towards their tally for barnstar purposes.

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Template with lots of field

Hi Ed, I noticed your copy-editing of the citing templates the Boy Scouting (Boy Scouts of America) article. Importantly you removed spacing betwee the fields: from 'first = John | last = Doe | authorlink = John Doe' to 'first=John|last=Doe|authorlink=John Doe'. This leads to difficult line wrapping for editors, clearly showing up when once looks at diffs. Is this something you did intentionally, and if so why? Wim van Dorst (talk) 21:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC).

My mistake- I was clearing out unused fields and killed some spacing. It is fixed now. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:49, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I wasn't pointing out an error or something, but merely asking how come you did it like this? Wim van Dorst (talk) 21:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC).
There were a number of fields in the citation templates that were not being used; it is considered a goo practice to not include unused fields as they clutter up editing. When I do this sort of cleanup, I copy the text into an Ultraedit window and use the replace feature to search and delete entries. I must have killed the spaces doing that. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 22:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I 'recently' upgraded from vi to Vim, on Unix ;-). Thanks for the explanation. Wim van Dorst (talk) 22:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC).
Ahhh... the joys of vi and printer codes. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

E. Urner Goodman

Could you look at this and see what you think it needs for Aclass? Leave on talk there or edit as you like. RlevseTalk 11:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning up the LCCN reference. I was unaware of {{LCCN}} and in fact had looked unsuccessfully for a better way to cite non-isbn books at the LOC, other than manually constructing an id. I see you've deleted the two EUG award images, so I've rm the links/rationales to the EUGoodman article on those two images' pages, accordingly. Cheers, JGHowes talk - 19:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
You did most of the work, and thanks to you for that! {{LCCN}} is documented at {{cite book}}, but could be better placed. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


Disputed fair use rationale for Image:The Keep.jpg

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Returning

After much thought and deliberation I have decided to return. Many wikians contacted me by various means and I truly appreciate the support from all of them. Man, did I need that wiki break! I have learned from it and will use the experience to improve. RlevseTalk 19:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Good. I'm still going to finish that email to you that I was trying to compose in my head while freezing my butt off at Klondike derby this weekend. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Har har. Have fun? RlevseTalk 20:04, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes I did, I think it got down below 10° here. I think I got a couple of good photos- haven't looked at them yet (Monday is conference call hell day at work). --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case

Per your "fishy" comment on User talk:SchuminWeb, I've started a sockpuppet case. Nwwaew (Talk Page) (Contribs) (E-mail me) 03:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

See here, I've indef blocked both of them. RlevseTalk 04:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Thought this was stalking. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Rollback

Would you be interested in having rollback to revert vandalism? I would gladly assign the user-rights if you want it. I trust that you will not abuse this privilege and you will find it useful if you ever need to revert vandalism from pages you have watchlisted. Let me know, -MBK004 23:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Sure. I use Twinkle, but every tool helps. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 00:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Not a problem. If you decide you don't want the tool, ask an admin to remove it. Take a look at these two places before using rollback:
-MBK004 00:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
This has some interesting capabilities- I will have to test this out. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 00:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Does this count?

I was going to ask you to look at this Eagle Scout Leadership Service Project. Thanks. --evrik (talk) 18:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Not interested. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Camp Raymond (BSA)

Regarding the announcement that you have removed this article from your watchlist: Uh, what's the point? - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 18:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Someone else can watch the 300 odd articles I removed from my watchlist today. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
My point is: Why did you feel compelled to make this announcement on the talk pages, complete with {{ambox}}? Everyone else just takes an article off their watchlist and goes away. Why the grand exit? - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 19:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I can't give you a better answer today than "just because." Dealing with camp articles is no fun anymore and I refuse to deal with them any more. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:32, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Sounds like a good enough reason to me. That number of articles can be a pain. Sometimes I think about throwing in the towel when I'm on new-page patrol, and I see the umpteenth article about a garage band that is supposedly notable because they're an important influence on the zydeco scene in Oshkosh, Wisconsin or something like that. Yeesh. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 20:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

diacriticals

Ed, why are you removing the diacritics when you change the templates? You're breaking wikilinks. Are you retyping them or something? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Diacritics? Give me an example. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 04:08, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Hang on. I'm using an external editor and it might have done something. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 04:11, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I need to figure out why Ultraedit is doing that, but it looks like you fixed my goofs. I finished the WOSM stuff and will work the WAGGS templates tomorrow. Let me know of there are any style issues. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 04:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

ArrowCorps5

Good morning Ed,

fyi, I've tagged Image:Masthead1.jpg ifd. Also, User:Falcofire had rv'd your edit, which I rv'd back to yours. JGHowes talk - 17:14, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I saw that. I was giving him the opportunity to fix it himself, but that did not seem to work. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Always happy to do my good turn for the day! Face-smile.svg Jim JGHowes talk - 20:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject coordinator election

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Sakuwit Lodge

Why would you remove information from Sakuwit Lodge 2 and cite the fact that it was taken from Sakuwit.org as a rational? I wrote that history for Sakuwit.org and had full permission to use it from the owner of the website. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 05:41, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Text from another site is always regarded as copyrighted unless there is a notice on the site explicitly releasing it. I am no longer involved with lodge articles, so do as you will. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Abandoning

Gadget, why would you post [[1]]? I don't understand... —ScouterSig 23:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I no longer edit or watch Scouting articles of a non-national level. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, what I meant was, "Why would you make a template to say that? Why not just stop watching?" (And to avoid sounding angry, THANK YOU for all your work, on whatever level.) —ScouterSig 18:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Testcases

Template:Testcases has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

New task

User_talk:Rlevse#FA_thanks RlevseTalk 23:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

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TfD nomination of Template:ZHP

Template:ZHP has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Shenandoah Acres

I've gone ahead and done a full history merge with the original article and the one you've userfied. This gives you a few benefits. First of all, when we eventually restore this article to the main namespace, all you have to do is a simple move. Secondly, this brings anyone who had Shenandoah Acres watchlisted on board with the userfied page (i.e. this carried over on their watchlists). SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:16, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks- I did not know that could be done. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 08:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Gadget, I have notes on how to do this on my toolbox page. RlevseTalk 11:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Mic-O-Say

Thanks for rewording that; you're right that there isn't much else to the article. The only reason I watch it is to keep tabs on vandalism. Justinm1978 (talk) 17:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

With about 1500 articles in my watchlist, I have to let some stuff go. I dropped almost 500 articles over the last week or so. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:16, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
I just tried to add an image to the infobox on this one, it won't take. Help? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Read Template:Infobox WorldScouting/doc; if the image size param is included but not set, this image name shows. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:21, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Template EurScout

That's the one I had e-mailed you personally "There is one other mismatched template I am hesitant to hand over, I'm proud of it, it's goodlooking and it is one of the last remaining fingerprints of my work from before I lost Sheri. The topic is small enough that it is in only one article. I have to think on this." and I wish you had said something before you posted it publicly. :( Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

<sigh> I did not do the math. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 02:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
It's okay, brother, and if it is archaic, I will bend to the Project, it's just one of my last holdouts and one of the few things I've done that hasn't needed to be retooled.
As per changing the base color to green for the templates, I saw the Exile one and I like it, I prefer the green, I give it three thumbs up! :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
I would also suggest merging Template:Polish scouting ranks into our new improved template. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Do you mean merge {{Polish scouting ranks}} into {{Scouting in Poland}}? --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Hillcourt

Great work on this! Do you want to take it through GA first? How much more do you feel is needed before FAC? RlevseTalk 11:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

  1. Thoughts on the above?
  2. Since he had a worldwide influence, should we add him to the Scouting template at the bottom of the articles? RlevseTalk 03:41, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Needs some images and some polish. We should ask Jim to give it an eyeball. I added the Scouting template. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 04:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Yea, I already asked him. Shouldn't he be in the notable leaders section of the navbox and listed therein? What do you think? RlevseTalk 04:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Warsaw in the Sun shape (TD).jpg

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replacing album cover images with inferior versions

Why are you replacing all of the album cover images for Tangerine Dream albums with inferior versions? Please revert your changes unless you have a good reason. Thanks. Kaldari (talk) 17:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Inferior is a bit vague, but I am going to presume you mean smaller. My watchlist showed that a large number of these had invalid rationales, including images that I had uploaded and those I had done rationales for before the template was available. Instead of just updating the rationales, I decided to move to PNG versions. Since the infobox only shows 200px, I don't see the need for larger sizes. I think all of the covers I had uploaded previously were only 300px, and others were a variety of sizes. All of these are cover scans from LPs in my collection, originally saved in Paint Shop Pro raw format at some large size (I don't recall the exact size at the moment) and later converted to the smaller PNG images. I did about 40 images yesterday; if you have a concern with any particular images, please let me know. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
And no, I have no problem with you replacing images. PNG is much better because you don't get artifacts when the image is resized. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Your images have terrible compression artifacts. You either need to dramatically increase the color palate on your PNGs or start saving them as PNG-24s instead of PNG-8s. The whole purpose of using PNGs over JPEGs is defeated when you overcompress the PNGs to start with. Kaldari (talk) 23:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Can you give me a specific example? --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 00:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Sorcerer.png

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February 2008

Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Norman Rockwell, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. THE KC (talk) 02:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC).

I have absolutely no clue. My last edit to Rockwell was to fix a reference link, it has not been reverted and you have not edited that article. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 02:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Scout article renames

You have recently recommended the renaming of numerous Scout-related articles. However, you have not completed the process at WP:RM. If you are still interested in these moves, please go through the entire process as explained at WP:RM. If not, please remove the {{move}} (or similar) template from the articles' talk pages. Thank you. JPG-GR (talk) 18:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Since I am doing it wrong, I'm going to stop putting move tags on pages and simply list them on the Scouting watchlist for discussion. I don't see any other way of doing this without going through an extra process that really is not required. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:47, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Fine with me Gadget, esp since the ScoutingProject renames/moves rarely get any outside involvement. RlevseTalk 02:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Looks like there were changes to the guideline in December. As best I see it, the tags are now only for admin related moves. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 02:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Nothing regarding the policy or procedure of WP:RM has changed in a long, long time. The only thing that changed in December are the templates that are used. I have removed the {{move}} templates from the articles you tagged. JPG-GR (talk) 18:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
WP:RM is only for moves that require admin assistance. We can just go ahead and move these articles because the target (as far as I know) is not being used. We do however need to flag this first on the relevant talk pages to see if anyone objects. --Bduke (talk) 00:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
All have discussions. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Stuff

Where's the other pulpandpaper image? Watch the IP trying to add himself (likely) to the Eagle list. RlevseTalk 22:53, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:Mb091c.gif as linked from the orphaned replaced template. We should not have two copies and the other is part of the merit badge set. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 02:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, I deleted the other one and fixed the FUR on Mb091c.gif. RlevseTalk 02:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

External links

The discrepancy puzzled me as well, but on further reflection it makes sense. I realised that the two types of links have two entirely different purposes. External links (as in, the ones grouped at the end with no specific citation) are for the reader who wishes to explore the topic further. It's unkind to spur that curiousity and then have it dashed by going through a paywall. References, on the other hand, are there to confirm the factual nature of a claim. It seems sensible to allow editors to cast their net as wide as possible when looking for an external citation to back up a claim. Peer-reviewed journal articles, for instance, are almost exclusively behind a subscription page, and it would seriously damage the credibility of the encyclopedia if we weren't allowed to use those as support for what we write. Orpheus (talk) 03:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

List of Eagle Scouts (Boy Scouts of America)

//Note: In your list of Eagle Scout Articles you removed a name that can be referenced. By contacting the BSA and the Eagle Scouts of America you can confirm the legitimacy of the name mentioned and the title he holds. The name I am referring to can be viewed in the recent history of edits on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.219.21.97 (talk) 19:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I presume you are referring to:
  • Anthony R Giesey; Youngest to receive the award in the 21st century.a[›]
This is not "my" list, simply a list that I and other editors maintain. Simply because Giesey is a fellow Eagle Scout does not make him notable. There are clear criteria for inclusion listed on the talk page; when you edited the article you had to have seen the notice referring you to that criteria. If by title you mean "youngest", how is that notable? You added a reference to the Distinguished Eagle Scout list; Giesey is not listed, thus the use of that reference is spurious. If you can establish notability, we will be glad to help you add a properly referenced entry. When you get out of class, you should create an account here. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Meet the FL criteria, notability criteria for wiki, and properly ref it, and we may be able to work this. I personally know a 16-year old that made Eagle at 12y9m back in 2004. I can prove it too. Were you younger than that when you made Eagle and can you prove it? Even if you could, that alone would not meet notability criteria for being on wiki. RlevseTalk 21:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Adminship?

Have you ever given any thought to going through an RFA? I'm considering nominating you, but want to know what you think first. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I've asked him that before, but he wasn't interested. He'd make a superb admin and I hope he accepts this time. I'd nom or co-nom too. RlevseTalk 01:40, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Gah! I do enough administrative work here cleaning up things and not enough writing as it is. I appreciate the thought Ben, but if I become an admin, people will want me do do other crap. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

It's as much or as little admin work as you want to do, it's voluntary too. Bduke only uses his bit when he wants to. Refer anything else you don't want to do admin-wise to me if you want. Trust me, it comes in very handy sometimes. RlevseTalk 01:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
What the heck. OK. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:37, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

COOL! Put an accept statement here, answer the questions, then we can transclude it. RlevseTalk 15:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Make sure it goes online soon. I need to support! Rudget. 18:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
And we're off! RlevseTalk 17:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Done --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 16:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXIV (February 2008)

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Peers who were also baronets

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Fixed Nothing wrong on this one. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:51, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Your warning of IP 64.105.35.149

A self-revert should not be warned with a vandalism template. That's what Template:uw-selfrevert is for. -- Zsero (talk) 09:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

OK. I think I applied that to the first edit made by the IP; I got distracted while editing the user page, which accounts for the slight time difference. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

congratulations

A consensus has been reached by your peers that you should be an admin. I have made it so. Please review Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list and keep up the great work. Sincerely, Kingturtle (talk) 17:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Congrats, and best wishes on your adminship - May all your dramas be quickly archived! UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 17:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, and thanks to all who supported me. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:52, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

OOH RAH! Well deserved! Congrats Mucho! RlevseTalk 18:21, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! SchuminWeb (Talk) 18:28, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

100% support! Good work, keep it up. Tiptoety talk 18:50, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Congrats on becoming a Admin I have no doubt that you'll be a great sysop! :) --Mifter (talk) 18:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Template interwikis

yes i know, didn't check these edits yet, thank you for notice, this was just a few templates - will check them, best regards ;o) --Dalibor Bosits © 23:53, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

A lot of templates use subpages for the documentation and interwikis go on the doc page. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 00:53, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Allstarecho/scouts

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Distinguished Eagle

Sorry about my misunderstanding of the link for that page. Thanks for your correction! --Eustress (talk) 20:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. That's why I left the detailed edit summary. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Fijian Stub

How did I do working the Fijian people stub? Is this what you want?

thanks,

MDaisy (talk) 19:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)MDaisy

Sorry, but I have no clue what you are asking here. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:07, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I was asking about whether the style of writing was what you had in mind. I am trying to figure out how to do the citations correctly too.

That's all,

thanks,

MDaisyMDaisy (talk) 22:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Scouting has a tutorial on references at WP:S-REF. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

A Time For Heroes

The word "for" was changed to "For" because that song's name contains the word "For" and not "for". -Lwc4life (talk) 20:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

You are right, the cover font is a bit confusing. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

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just in case my e-mail didn't send

Hi Ed, would you make collapsible Template:Kazakhstan topics, and also send me a test e-mail? I think something is wrong with my e-mail. Thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Updated the template. Got your email and replied. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 10:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
And the change was reverted by User:BernardTom. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, my e-mail is messed up, nothing from anyone for two weeks. :( That editor (see his talk page) automatically reverts any changes he sees to about a dozen articles he believes are his property, and his English is horrid. Since you are an admin, or if you know a more seasoned admin who knows more ropes, can something be done? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 20:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm receiving your messages OK. Your Hotmail inbox isn't full perhaps? Let me know if you want a Gmail account. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Religious Emblem approved for Unitarian Universalist youth

There is good news. There is now a Religious Emblem for Unitarian Universalist youth. For more information take a look at http://www.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=88667&p=5 Yours in Scouting-Phips (talk) 23:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I've been a participant in that discussion. While it sounds like there is a solution, there are no references yet. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

help in creating a quotation template

Hi there. I was wondering if you could help me get info. about creating a quotation template like '{{Quote box2}}'. I'm trying to create a template that has the big quotation marks and standard sized text (like in {{Rquote}}), but where there are options to change the background colour, border and float to right etc. In have 'created' {{Rquote2}}, but I want more versatility. Can you help ? Thanks. MP (talkcontribs) 17:53, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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Orphaned non-free media (Image:Barnstar Scout 2.png)

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Old proposed image- let it go. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:58, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Replacing breaks

Thanks, I was aware of that and I know its trivial. I do it along with other edits because it adds consistency to the articles that I frequently browse and edit and I usually only do it if there are other edits on the page as well. That way I do the trivial edits at the same time I do the more important ones to limit the strain on the processor. Let me know if you see anything else.--Kumioko (talk) 15:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

To be honest I was under the impression that the server replaced the "
" to "
" and thats why I was doing that. I can change but I would like to verify that first. To answer your question I use AWB to do a lot of edits like that, typos, adding specific items (such as categories and portal links, adding info to the see also sections, etc). It allows you to scan entire categories of articles (it has other sort methods also but thats the one I use most frequently) to look for things like a find and replace rather than doing it one article at a time. Please let me know if you have any other questions and I will do a little research on the break issue. If you know of a reference or a link please let me know. No offense I just like to verify things before I do them.--Kumioko (talk) 16:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)--Kumioko (talk) 16:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Directing questions to the Ref Desk

Hi! While referral of questions to the appropriate Desks is generally helpful, take care not to bounce questions that we can't answer from the Help Desk to the Reference Desk: [2]. Questions that seek medical or legal advice are beyond the scope of the Ref Desk; those questions should be referred to a qualified professional. Cheers! TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Right- I copied the wrong template tag. Fixed. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 16:06, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

STAR

Barnstar

I think you deserve this barnstar. I see you at the help desk nearly every day. I have never got a barnstar (even though i'm literally at the help desk everyday), and since I would love one, I think you would too. SimpsonsFan08 (talk) 19:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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I think you deserve this. I see you at the help desk nearly every day. SimpsonsFan08 (talk) 19:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

{{subst:The Help Desk Barnstar|I think you deserve this. I see you at the help desk nearly every day. [[User:SimpsonsFan08|SimpsonsFan08]] ([[User talk:SimpsonsFan08|talk]]) 19:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)}}

Thanks, but $deity knows why I do this. Guess it takes my mind off of answering tech support calls all day long. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
It's fine. I wish I got this barnstar, so I thought you would like it too. SimpsonsFan08 (talk) 20:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Help desk replies

Hi, I noticed on this help desk question that you were rather unhelpful. Wikipedia does use TeX in the <math> commands, so he could be asking a legitimate question, in which case his question was put in pretty much the right place. -mattbuck (Talk) 07:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


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Welcome!

Hello inspector Gadget lol, I mean Gadget850, ehem. Thank you very much for the warm welcome (which I suspect is an automated message, but its the thought that counts!) I am very much enjoying my time on Wikipedia, it is such a vibrant and exciting website that is changing constantly. I love it! Again, thank you for the welcome. :) Mr Beans Backside (talk) 14:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Late queries

It does not seem that you noticed my late query at Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2008_May_12#LOC-image_Template. Also, I need help with the template at Image:Willard Motley.jpg. Please reply at my talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you figured out that these need {{LOC-image}}. I changed the wording on {{LOC-cdn}}. Sorry I did not respond sooner, but I was traveling on business. --— Gadget850 (Ed)talk 09:54, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't know much about the LOC, but it seem that this collection is actually housed at the Chicago History Museum even thought they are listed in the LOC. The template may disappoint a DC visitor and probably still needs to be changed to reflect the location of the images.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Ah- tweaked it a bit. Please feel free to edit it if it needs more work. --— Gadget850 (Ed)talk 14:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Here is another image I can not get the LOC link to work for.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

What URL did you get this from? --— Gadget850 (Ed)talk 18:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
OK- You were using {{LOC-image}} which is only for the Prints and Photographs division. I found the image— it is from the Chicago Daily News, but is in a different collection for "Chicago Anarchists on Trial: Evidence from the Haymarket Affair, 1886-1887". I added a handle for this- see {{LOC-cdn}}. I see how the handles into the LOC work, and it is a bit messy. If you find another one, give me the URL and I can figure this out faster. --— Gadget850 (Ed)talk 19:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Your help at the Village Pump with the information box (Legislative Assembly) is much appreciated. Jonathan Logan (talk) 14:38, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome! --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 15:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Talkheader

Greetings. You recently removed the Talkheader on the talk page of an article that I created Plumb House (Waynesboro, Virginia). Can you please help me find exactly where it says that this header is only intended for pages with policy violation problems? Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 00:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


Certainly— it is in the documentation for {{talkheader}}, specifically:

This template should be used only when needed. Do not add this template to every talk page. In particular, it should not be added to otherwise empty talk pages.

I've only used the template where folks have a history of using the talk page as a forum instead of working the article— Talk:M113 Armored Personnel Carrier is a good example. As the article in question has had no discussion, the header is not needed. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 00:37, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...I wish I saw that guidance earlier. FieldMarine (talk) 01:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Been there, done that. Happy editing. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

LOC formating

Can you get this LOC template working Image:1891 Rookery building.jpg--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 08:34, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm happy to help with these, but please give me the URL where you got the image. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

syntax question

Hi Ed,

Recognizing that you are all-knowing, all-wise, and an all-around nice guy, I wonder if you would take a look at Jim Palmer#Career statistics? I'm trying to force the MLBBioRet template to right-align and maybe there's a better way than what I'm doing to work around the lack of this parameter in the template itself. Which is regrettable when it's used below a 2nd-level heading. JGHowes talk - 22:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

You did about as good as it gets without changing the template. If you want to start a discussion on the template talk, I can add an alignment parameter. I think the MOS states that you should not include images floated left directly after a header as it mess up certain things. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 00:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
ok, I thought maybe there was some other workaround I didn't know about. I would like to propose an alignment parameter on the template talk, because MOS:IMAGES indeed says exactly that. JGHowes talk - 00:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Start the discussion and I will look at it tomorrow. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
ok, started it here. JGHowes talk - 03:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome that you left, and thanks for your service to the country and our youth. Could you also look at Image talk:KnotDAM.png‎, I can't seem to figure out why it will not post the image that I uploaded. Thanks! Click23 (talk) 16:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

KnotDAM.png

Go to Special:Preferences; select Gadgests > User interface gadgets and check "A clock in the personal toolbar ..." and Save. Go back to the image page and click on the clock to purge. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 16:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I tried that, but it still shows up with the loop on the top of the knot. Adding the purge command to the url, for the actual image, the loop is on bottom(the file that I uploaded) I am not sure if you are seeing it the same way that I am, so below is a couple of links and descriptions.
without purge loop on top, original image
with purge loop on bottom, image that I uploaded
Click23 (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I see the free ends on the top and the loop on the bottom, just as shown on the plaque: [3]. Try going back to the image pages and WP:BYPASS. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I cleared my browsers cache and that fixed the problem. Thanks Click23 (talk) 17:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Good. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, What for need the image?--123FM (talk) 22:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Thanks for fixing my problem at WT:Wikiproject Council. I was completely mystified and about to undo the whole post. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome. An entertaining puzzle of a few moments. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

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For your excellent help at the Help Desk lately (including your assistance in backing me up on technical issues between the HD and VPT), I would like to give you this token of thanks. -- ShinmaWa(talk) 06:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 10:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again

Thanks for prompt and efficient assistance with the Mark Steyn article. --Interactbiz (Norm, Vancouver Canada) (talk) 21:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

James Marr

This says nothing about him being a Scout. RlevseTalk 09:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. I had added the ref, but did not expand the text. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Association of Catholic Guides and Scouts of Italy

Hope this explains it [4] --jergen (talk) 19:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ed,

Just thought I'd mention as a suggestion that for Fair Use of a logo, a streamlined template is {{logo fur}} instead of {{Non-free media rationale}} JGHowes talk - 00:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Terry Sanford

I've put a lot of work into this article lately and hope to nominate it for FAC in a couple of days. If you could look it over and give it a good copyedit, etc, I'd really appreciate it. RlevseTalk 00:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Stub listings in categories?

Hi Gadget850... Thank you for your welcome. I just recently created a wiki account as you probably know, and I am greatly confused and lost on how to overall navigate through here. My main question would lie in: how do I create stub listings in categories? For example, I saw that Nickelodeon Family Suites has a stub listing under hotels or something like that... How would I get started to create something like that? Any other tips and information would be greatly appreciated. thank you. Veb47u (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

If you edit Nickelodeon Family Suites, you will see {{Florida-struct-stub}} near the bottom of the article. This is a Template messages that adds the text to the bottom of the page and places the page into Category:Florida building and structure stubs. You can browse through Category:Stub categories to find the category you need; usually the template is listed at the top of the category. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 13:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

BSA

See User_talk:Rlevse#Revised_Lead_-_Boy_Scouts_of_America Pls comment there. RlevseTalk 00:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Ed, wouldn't it be a good idea to add some color to the "Units and chartered organizations" chart to make it easier to read across, given the large number of columns and rows? JGHowes talk - 23:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Columns are a pain. Rows are doable, but I would take out sorting as that will look odd if resorted. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 16:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Boy Scouting (Boy Scouts of America) GA Sweeps Review: On Hold

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria and I'm specifically going over all of the "Culture and Society" articles. I have reviewed Boy Scouting (Boy Scouts of America) and believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. In reviewing the article, I have found there are several issues that need to be addressed, and I'll leave the article on hold for seven days for them to be fixed. I have left this message on your talk page since you have significantly edited the article (based on using this article history tool). Please consider helping address the several points that I listed on the talk page of the article, which shouldn't take too long to fix with the assistance of multiple editors. I have also left messages on the talk pages of a few other editors and a related WikiProject to spread the workload around some. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 21:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

MGM-31 Pershing

Is not it better to spit this article into three separate articles - Pershing I, Pershing IA, Pershing II? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

If you look at the talk page, I have discussed it. There is a lot more to add to the Pershing II section, as it does not yet discuss the opposition to deployment. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:03, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

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A discussion

A discussion on Should WikiProjects get prior approval of other WikiProjects (Descendant or Related or any ) to tag articles that overlaps their scope ? is open here . We welcome you to participate and give your valuable opinions. You are receiving this note as you are a member of WikiProject Council -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 12:33, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Nice work!

WikiDefender Barnstar.png The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For figuring out that complicated vandalism! –xenocidic (talk) 22:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:47, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Did you catch the subtle joke? ;> –xenocidic (talk) 23:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: tag

Quoted from User talk:Anomie:
Where is #tag:references documented? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:18, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Help:Magic words. It's not specific to references, {{#tag:}} can be used with any XML-style tag to get templates and template parameters to work right. Anomie 18:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks— should have known that. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:28, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


Thank you

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Thank you, Gadget850, for your extremely pleasant attitude at the FAC for Boy Scouts of America. Your willingness to consider changes and nice comments towards reviewers contribute to a nicely collaborative atmosphere. Karanacs (talk) 13:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


Thanks! I sometimes dread going back to an FAC I've opposed, but you guys have been so reasonable! You are making great progress...keep it up :) Karanacs (talk) 13:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

A Scout is courteous and kind. Truly- if we did not want the article reviewed and ripped up, we would not have put it up for FAC. You have done a great job of giving us specific issues that we can resolve. Our target audience here is readers who are not familiar with the BSA, and we need to do our best to make the subject understandable to them. With over a hundred man-years of experience in the BSA amongst the main editors, it is hard to refrain from jargon and the like (at least we have not used kybo). I'm outlining the history now— thanks for the link to Texas A&M, it looks like a good model. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 13:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Unofficial Knots

Sorry about posting incorrect information. I am new to posting on Wikipedia and thought that I could add some information to Sea Scouting and kind of got ahead of myself. Thanks for catching my mistake. Stnfll (talk) 01:57, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Arethusa Leigh-White

Thanks for finding the name! The succession box doesn't work-the "after" should show a redlink to the next article. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome. Forgot a parameter in the box- fixed now. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:54, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

RfB Thank You spam

Wikipedia logo (svg).svg Thank you for participating in my RfB! I am very grateful for the confidence of the community shown at my RfB, which passed by a count of 154/7/2 (95.65%). I have read every word of the RfB and taken it all to heart. I truly appreciate everyone's input: supports, opposes, neutrals, and comments. Of course, I plan to conduct my cratship in service of the community. If you have any advice, questions, concerns, or need help, please let me know. Again, Thanks! RlevseTalk 08:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Template:LOC-cdn

Is it possible to create a separate Category:Chicago Daily News Collection of the Library of Congress so I can see and reference all of these images separately.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes. It should be named Category:Images from the Chicago Daily News Collection and be a subcategory of Category:Images from the Library of Congress. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 13:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I think Library of Congress should be in the category name. How about Category:Images from the Library of Congress Chicago Daily News Collection. I know it sounds long, but I anticipate that this category will be referenced in discussions often. Also, see the name of the current subcat in the category. Maybe we should follow this convention, which would make the category Category:CDN, Library of Congress images. Is it possible to respond at my talk page (at least in duplicate)?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Did you have an opinion on the name of the category and will you be able to add it to the template anytime soon? Respond at my talk page if possible.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't mean to be a pest, but is this request something difficult to do? I know to add a category to a category is easy. Is it difficult for a template?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I updated the category in the template yesterday. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I have created the subcategory, but I am not sure what I need to do to Template:LOC-cdn/doc. It seemed to change by itself and I do not understand the code.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

GSUSA

Sorry! I am trying to get the hang of all this! How should I go about citing my sources? Also, is it just this topic, or is it protocol to ask permission for every post on everything? I am a frequent reader of Wikipedia, but have never really thought about adding content before. Sorry if I seem daft, just trying to figure out what's what. Thanks so much for your help! :) Seri909 (talk) 16:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I will answer on your talk page so we have a cohesive dialog. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 16:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


White Stag Leadership Development Program

You marked the White Stag Leadership Development Program entry as "Start-Class", which means, "An article that is developing, but which is quite incomplete and, most notably, lacks adequate reliable sources. -- The article has a usable amount of good content, but it is weak in many areas, usually in referencing. Quality of the prose may be distinctly unencyclopedic, and MoS compliance non-existent; but the article should satisfy fundamental content policies such as notability and BLP, and provide enough sources to establish verifiability. No Start-Class article should be in any danger of being speedily deleted."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Stag_Leadership_Development_Program

Can you please clarify what additional content and/or references would improve the quality of the article?

Thanks very much.btphelps (talk) 19:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Left a quick review on the talk page. I am concerned that you are the Brian Phelps listed in the references. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:41, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

You can't do that

There is every reason to discuss this LARGE matter on a special page, ala CFD (DISCUSSION) ... While Tempates nomenclature may not have the same enlightened ATTITUDE I would certainly hope any admin was familiar with the concept of discussion. Revert your edits, and for pete's sake give a guy time to make posts... Sheese! Fucking rookies! // FrankB 20:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

My only edits have been comments- someone else closed the TFD. I considered it, but I have been involved in past discussion and felt it would be a conflict. As far as CFD vs. TFD— if you feel there is an issue of discussion vs. deletion, feel free to take up the cause, but I am not discussing it here and now. If you will calmly and clearly discuss the issue instead of adding drama, you might find that I agree with you on the core issue. I could even explain what the class and groups mean and why they should remain. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Warning

You may have seen that all logo's are removed from Age groups in Scouting and Guiding that is done on an every secret policy (see User_talk:J_Milburn#Age_groups_in_Scouting_and_Guiding). There is a change that List_of_highest_awards_in_Scouting will suffer the same fate. --Egel Reaction? 10:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I saw the logo issue, and had already considered that it applies to the awards article. I have run into the same issues on discographies. See Wikipedia:Non-free content. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

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Flag Icons Not Needed?

This is what you said on my page:

I was just going to make the same point. Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style (flags) and let us know if there are any questions.

And this is my reply:

Why? Everybody needs flag lists to symbolise the country or U.S. state they were born in and also where they died. So I decided to go ahead with what I was doing. -- 20000 Talk/Contributions 18:23, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

That is not really a question— more a statement of intent. According to that logic, Bruce Willis gets a German flag and John McCain gets a Panamanian flag, even though they were both born as U.S. citizens; if the icon is so essential, then that means that everyone recognizes every state and country flag and we don't need the text. All these issues are well covered in the guideline, please read it. If you really, really disagree with it, take it up on the talk page of the guideline, but be prepared to offer better arguments than what has already been discussed. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:57, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Carl Rungius

I've greatly expanded it and nominated it for DYK. I wanted to do a fairly thorough job. Cheers! -Oreo Priest talk 21:33, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Sweet. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 22:03, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

William Hanna FAC preps

I've taken this article from this to this, in preps for filing it for FAC. I could you some help now with:

  1. finding a free image of Hanna
  2. some good copyediting
  3. expanding the lead
and when that's done I'll unlink the repetitive links (things can change during ce, so I don't want to do now), then file for FAC.

Any help is greatly appreciated. RlevseTalk 02:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Hanna

I've listed William Hanna at PR and GAC. Keep our fingers crossed. If you have ideas to help more, esp improve the lead, have at it. Thanks for all past and future help. RlevseTalk 01:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank you

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Gadget850/Archive 2008, I wish to say thanks for your support in my successful request for adminship, which ended with 82 supports, 3 opposes, and 1 neutral. I will do my best to live up to your expectations. I would especially like to thank Rlevse for nominating me and Wizardman for co-nominating me.
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Flushed Away Again

I'm asking about the Flushed Away Again page that you created and I was wondering where you foound the information. I know it was a rumor from a website but can you please give me the web adress or some links? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritaslilsis (talkcontribs) 09:46, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Flushed Away Again was created by User:Wtooher. I haven't even seen all of the first movie. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

William Hanna

I am finally done with all the refs. Can you help expand the lead? I'm drawing a blank there. A copyedit would be appreciated too. Thanks. RlevseTalk 02:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks from Hag2

Gadget, THIS is where you will find the end result of your input. Let me know what you think (talk). I certainly appreciate the help. I stumbled upon the main article a month or so ago and it seemed as if no one had paid much attention since 2004. So I began a long process of editorial changes which affected the style of just about everything from the original. It has been a very long process (still on-going) and I believe the little pull quote is an enormous improvement over the original author's straightline presentation. Hag2 (talk) 14:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Looks good. I removed some style stuff that did not do anything and wrapped the quote in <poem>...</poem> so it does not need line breaks— that seems to have fixed a problem with line spacing. I moved the reference to after the final quote mark— I think it looks better. I need to update my example. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 15:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I like your tweaks. Hag2 (talk) 16:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Amazing

Talk:William_Hanna#The_use_of_Template:Rp...you can't please everyone. RlevseTalk 16:10, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Look like this is resolved. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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Help desk

At Wikipedia:Help desk#Double redirects, I assume you didn't intend to have your signature appear just after the OP's post followed by {{Unsigned}}? I figured it was an instance of rote tilde placement (I've done the same thing) and removed your signature. I always drop people a note on the rare instances when I modify their posts in any way.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks— I saw you fixed that. There were two posts added to the top of the page (one was stuck inside a comment since 22 Aug) and I moved them to the proper places. I'm not sure what added my signature- I may have added it without thinking. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
No problem. You know, if someone posts tildes and they are for whatever reason inside nowiki tags and you come along a year later and remove the tags and save, it formats as your signature rather than the original person's?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Yep. Don't think that one was commented or nowikied though. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:31, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey thanks for fixing that logo up on Fire Service Exploring. Cheers, Mazeau (talk) 18:34, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Infobox Awards

Many thanx, I wasn't aware of its existence. Handicapper (talk) 14:35, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome. I saw a need at the time, so I created it. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:36, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Reflist

Many thanks for removing the multi-column support for Safari, it makes using Wikipedia much easier. Thanks also for all the thought, effort and goodwill you have put into the reflist problem. Best wishes, DuncanHill (talk) 09:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I will probably revisit this with a different approach before too long. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Young American Award

You were asking Mr Subritzky regarding the Young American Award Please contact me about this as I was the one who added that image for Mr Subritzky, as we live near each other and I assist him with image adding. I also have a sample of the ribbon in my collection User talk:The Oriccle

I was wondering if you had any other information on the award. Reliable sources have been rather few. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
By Gum that was a quick answer. I had to make a couple of changes to try and get a link up to myself without success. I have no information on the award just a ribbon slide sample of the ribbon I acquired about 4 years ago —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Oriccle (talkcontribs) 01:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
I have just also located a scan of this medal sporting the Red/white/blue ribbon as well

century

Thanks for your message; yes, this particular aspect is yielding more false positives than is worth it, so on the basis of your message I'm going to ask for it to be disabled from the script. Sorry about that. Tony (talk) 12:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem. The rest of the edits were fine. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:55, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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Orphaned non-free media (Image:Wood Carving merit badge 118.png)

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Save article?

Due to your interest in scouting, you might be interested in helping to save a relevant page Wilderness Diarrhea from merger with Travelers Diarrhea by a couple of zealots. The article in question is comprehensive, dull, and potentially useful to scoutmasters.Calamitybrook (talk) 16:07, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Scouting links

I added the reference to Scouting in the article Scouting in the United States because the Boy Scouts of America holds exclusive rights to the term "Scouting" in the United States. The 1916 Federal charter 36 USC § 21 et. seq. which gives the BSA "the exclusive right to use emblems, badges, descriptive or designating marks, and words and phrases [the BSA] adopts." The term "Scouting" was adopted by the BSA in 1911. Likewise, MeritBadge.org provides extensive materials for Varsity Scouts, Venturing, and Sea Scouting including rank requirements, award information, leader resources, merit badge requirements and workbooks, and much more. — Milominderbinder2 talk 18:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:--HungaryGodollo1933.jpg

Chris- Image:--HungaryGodollo1933.jpg is pretty much a duplicate of Image:Scouts-wj1933-patch.png. I don't see a need for both of these. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, so _then_ I read "please reply there as it will be on my watch list", sorry, oops. I noticed this, too. Image:--HungaryGodollo1933.jpg is the original historic badge. Image:Scouts-wj1933-patch.png is a screenprint reproduction. Given that we don't have a graphic version, I would argue for keeping the historic badge. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 19:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I will update to Image:--HungaryGodollo1933.jpg and let Image:Scouts-wj1933-patch.png go orphaned and be deleted. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
ps-for some reason the 16th and 18th Jambos don't show up on the chart anymore, though the text is in your edit. Huh? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 19:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Fixed. Thanks. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:07, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

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what about...

and

Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Give me time... I am evaluating each one. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

List of Eagles

Thanks. Good to know. The problem is, if I see an article such as "List of X," I expect it to contain all X, not just ones someone has decided are notable. Since a complete "List of Eagle Scouts" would run on endlessly until it looked like a phonebook from a large city, it seemed helpful to accurately describe the very limited scope of the page. Qualifying and delimiting the scope of the list in the lead paragraph also works, I suppose. Edison (talk) 18:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

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Alpha Phi Omega List on Eagle Scout List

I've not heard of Alpha Phi Omega, as I am personally not involved with Greek Life. However, on the List_of_Eagle_Scouts_(Boy_Scouts_of_America), in the See Also section, there is a link to List of Alpha Phi Omega members. Is this appropriate? It seems like just a random list to me... Mjf3719 (talk) 14:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at the history of Alpha Phi Omega; it was founded by Scouters and incorporated many of the Scouting ideals. Many alumni are Eagle Scouts and vice versa. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

List of Scouts

Ed, I just edited that article, and this red bar came up that said "Additions and removals• This list has criteria for the addition or removal of entries. Please refer to the criteria and formatting guide for details. Additions must have a citation from a reliable source; uncited entries will be reverted. Removal of entries must be discussed; Wikipedia is not censored. Editors who desire to identify themselves as an Eagle Scout may do so with a Scouting userbox on their user page." Can we put something like that on List of Scouts? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Sure can. It uses a MediaWiki message, so only an admin can create or edit the edit notice. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 15:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
If we have an edit notice, then we need to enforce it. Before we do that, we need to seriously work the existing list and get it up to standard. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 15:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I feared as much. Anyone beside you and me also up to the task? If not... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:11, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

postal abbreviations

Thanks for your additions to Southern Region-please don't use postal abbreviations, spell out states, the letters are unfamiliar to nonUS readers. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on it. Give a guy some time. Gotta do some actual work here. Face-devil-grin.svg --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
That's cool, just saying. Like Randy's an ex-military guy, so he uses 09 Sep 07 instead of September 9, 2007, we just need to make sure everyone can read them. Not a criticism, brother! :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:54, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I tend towards the same date system as well. Anyways- it is fixed. I get a customer call, I like to save my work and come back to it. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 15:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Appreciative Newbie

Thank you for your comments, Gadget.

I've read articles on the Wiki for quite some time, but I am brand-spankin'-new to the idea of contributing/editing. I'm just sort of reading what I can find and hacking my way through it. I would really appreciate some guidance.

The majority of the Varsity Scouting material I added comes from months of investigation and interviewing. I spoke personally with every individual mentioned (and a great many others) except for JD Mortensen, who passed on a few years ago. I can add citations for the stuff that came from the written material that I have, but what about all the interviews?

People tend to want to "toot their own horn". As I gathered information, I tended to look on any claims of personal accomplishment with suspicion. Most failed to check out. I eventually located the "founding fathers". They are real gentlemen and characteristically UNwilling to take any credit for their contributions. But, they were willing to "rat" on one another. : Patterns developed as credit was given to the same individuals and I felt pretty good about accepting collaborating statements as "fact". So, most all of the assertions that I am making not only come from an interview, but a collection of interviews. How in the world do I cite that?

I'm looking through a few pages of stuff here on the Wiki and read about verifiability, neutrality, and no original research as I write this. I must be blowing that last one. There's something of a "Catch 22" or a "Chicken and an Egg Problem" here. The reason I went to all the work to develop the history was to eliminate the vacuum I found when I wanted to know. Now that I know, I want to provide the information to others with the same interest. But that seems to be clashing with Wiki's ideals.

Any help you could provide would be appreciated. I'd like to learn how to do this well.

I'll do my best to find my way back here. I'd appreciate it if you seek me out it seems to you that I have gotten lost.

--Yak Herder (talk) 15:11, 16 October 2008 (UTC)Yak-Herder

I will respond on your talk page so that we can keep a cohesive dialog. It is on my watchlist, so I will see your response. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 15:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Intl Scout merge

This should go _before_ any national sections like US and UK, not at the bottom where you've parked it. Again about unintentional bias. Thanks, brother. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 23:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Read the template talk page: the US and UK sections are going to be deleted unless there are objections. The US and UK have their own templates. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:24, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay, still that's the natural position for the intl material to be tucked in. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:49, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Happy Gadget850/Archive 2008's Day!

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User:Gadget850/Archive 2008 has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
and therefore, I've officially declared today as Gadget850/Archive 2008's day!
For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian,
enjoy being the Star of the day, dear Gadget850/Archive 2008!

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For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:EVula/Userboxes/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. RlevseTalk 01:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 10:22, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

HMC/Oreland 1

You're two years behind on this merge/update. I went through this already. Hawk Mountain Camp and Oreland Troop #1 are related in that Scouts and Scouters maintain and operate the camp. The camp is a seperate entity. Both articles meet the standard since one is a major and notable organization in the Philadelphia area. The other is a long standing campground in the Eastern part of Pennsylvania. Thank you.

I have replaced the tags as none of the conditions have been met, and an old discussion does not moot a new one. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:57, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Actually, these should both probably be AFD'd. RlevseTalk 01:05, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Table help

Hey Gadget, I tried to format the table for ISS Spacewalks (FLC) like you posted in the example, but it isn't working. If you have time, could you take a look at it here and see what I'm doing wrong (feel free to change it so I can see the difference)? I'd really appreciate it! (I'm not a table expert, obviously, lol.) ArielGold 21:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Never mind ;) Rlevse sort of helped me figure it out. Re-doing the list now. Thanks for the input, Gadget! ArielGold 23:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

VPT

I could have sworn I replied... anyway, yes, I can. :) neuro(talk) 10:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Main Page redesign

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Order of the Arrow COI

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Scouting image issues

  • Could you please explain what "Articles with problem image galleries" means and how these problem can be resolved? I appriciate your work - but I do not understand how to deal with the problems found (and I fear I'm not the only one).
  • Some of the older logos could be in the public domain (eg Image:Boy Scouts India Badge.jpg dating from 1922 according to The Bharat Scouts and Guides); the same could apply to a number of the stamps). I'm not sure how to deal with these.

Thank you. --jergen (talk) 17:26, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on an explanation at WT:SCOUT right now. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:15, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 Done --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:13, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
With respect, and I appreciate the hard work and thought you've both put into this, I'm going to dispute some of these. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:01, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
And I expect that; read my discussion where I noted that there will be false positives due to the manner in which I did this review. Don't expect me to breeze through three continents in one afternoon without a few mistakes Face-smile.svg. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:05, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the headsup, Ed, you're great! Did someone else restore Jamaica today? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:19, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I was trying to figure out how to tell who restored it. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you very much and have a nice day! :) CarpetCrawler (talk) 16:55, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Had to look to figure out what you were thanking me for. Face-smile.svg --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

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Scouting question

I am pretty new to the Scouting wikiproject so I am not sure about this. Yesterday I reverted a change to the main BSA page where someone added a troop link. Today I noticed Ricewp (the same user that added the link to the main page I deleted) created the following article Simsbury Boy Scout Troop 175. Personally I question whether a non-historical troop really qualifies for having an article, but that isn't a beef either way for me. The page mentions the names of scouts in the troop. I am not sure that is appropriate but I don't know what the project overall has determined for a situtation like this. Marauder40 (talk) 14:21, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

NM looks like it was just dealt with. I guess the answer is nominate it for speedy deletion. Marauder40 (talk) 14:40, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes- just go ahead an tag these types of articles. I went on and deleted it since it was a recreation of a deleted article. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:43, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
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I don't get it. What did you change? And how did you know so fast that the image was new? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:04, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I forgot to add a summary— wish there was a way to remind you for images like there is for articles. Take a good look st the white area on the original. I did some cleanup: made the color areas solid and made the white transparent. I have 2,500 thousand pages on my watchlist, 90% of those are Scouting articles. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:26, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Help_desk#Merge_template

I was talking about the general {{Afd-merge}} template. - Mgm|(talk) 09:13, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Scoutreach

Wait five minutes. Philly jawn (talk) 20:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:Scouting images

Right, ok. I'll take a look at that now- thanks. J Milburn (talk) 20:36, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk page archive for Talk:AC power plugs and sockets

Hello - all the archive links for Talk:AC power plugs and sockets are red, since those talk pages don't exist. Where is the old discussion? (It looks like it never did get appended to the retitled article.) --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:46, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

The talk subpages were never moved with the rest of the article. I moved them and linked them in an archives box at the top of the page; see my note on the talk page. You might want to just delete the old list if it makes it confusing. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Color lighten

Can you lighten these these templates so the new log is halfway visible: {{Scoutorg BSA}} {{scouting}}

RlevseTalk 18:33, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
That's even worse. Now the bottom is completely indistinguishable from the background. This is why we should have gone with the oval version. RlevseTalk 21:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Scouting fleur-de-lis dark.svg There is no bottom to the trefoil. Stepping out to dinner- catch you later --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:33, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Take a look at the scouting template. The light green you changed it to washes out the bottom of the fleurdeleis (trefoil) worse than the old color you had, ie the part without the dark green border. This is why the whole new logo should have been surrounded with a background, as I've been saying all along. RlevseTalk 21:39, 27 November 2008 (UTC)...or you give all the templates the same color as {{ScoutingWikiProject}} which has a background color where you can actually see our whole new problematic logo. RlevseTalk 21:44, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
{{Infobox_WorldScouting}} has the same problem. That shade of green simply isn't working. RlevseTalk 21:46, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Pick your favorite:

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--—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 02:41, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

The basic problem is the design. The dark green trefoil only covers 2/3 of the gold logo. Surrounding it with an oval or all in dark green would have fixed that. RlevseTalk 02:52, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
For my input, I'd pick NavahoWhite as it's earthy, scouty, can be seen, and matches the project template. RlevseTalk 03:07, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox WorldScouting

Following one of the last updates the template requests a value for "chiefscouttitle" and the default value "Chief Scout" seems to be lost (example: [5]). Could you please fix this? There are lots of articles around without value for "chiefscouttitle". Thank you. --jergen (talk) 08:00, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. I broke that on the 2 October update. Forgot it was supposed to have a default. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

hawk mtn camp

Then remove the tag on the camp. That article (along with every other Scout Camp) meets the standard, Spanky. The two organization, though linked in spirt, are two seperate entities and should be treated here as such. As far as the troop's article. I have read the "GUIDELINES" (once again, I emphasize the word "GUIDELINES") several times. It still meets thae "notability standard" the way I (and many others) read them. Remember, they are "GUIDELINES" not law or some other higher power. Just becuase you disagree with the article- and because you have big bad administrative powers and drum up support for your little crusade at the drop of a hat doesn't mean the article needs to go... (This is a BIG complaint for users of Wikipedia...)

The article is being expanded to hit upon the contributions by our brother troop (the now defuct Oreland 2) and the efforts of establishing Scouting organizations in modern suburban communities. Troop 2 did start an international Scouting event- isn't that fairly notable there Spanky? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmpenzone (talkcontribs)

You don't seem to understand the process. The AfD is already started; removing the tag will not stop it. You need to present a logical and compelling argument to counter my reasoning, and it needs to be done at the AfD page linked from the courtesy note I left on your page. None of my actions in this manner have involved my admin "powers". --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:52, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't mean to sound stupid in your own little world, but I have already succeeded at that... I believe you are the one that needs to provide a clear and logical argument as to why it NEEDS to be deleted. I have already successfully demonstrated why this article is relevant. It is a Scout Camp, a location in the world. It been home to many Summer Camps, an International Camporee, has had more than 200 troops camp there from 16 different states and American scout troops station in Germany and Japan. It is a well known camp in Eastern Pennsylvania on par with Treasure Island- and our camp is still open. If you wish to remove all Scout Camps from wikipedia, please go on your crusade and do so. You have only convinced me that you do not like the article for whatever reason and you are hell-bent on removing anything that does not conform to your own personal standards. (not the wikipedia standards) Hundreds if not thousands of other readers/editors have read the page and felt it did not merit deletion. One little boy on a mission does, and I have to explain myself. PLEASE! You're a scout. ALL scouts camps are notable. That should be reason enough. Instead of deleting articles you should worry about expanding articles and making this more comprehensive. Jmpenzone (talk) 22:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD

I separated the two AfDs (Hawk Mountain Camp v. Oreland Troop 1). Just a heads up.Jheiv (talk) 19:24, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

And it does not show op on the AFD list. Trying to figure out how to fix this. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Fixed. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

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Portal links

Whatever came of the discussion about the discrepancy of where to put portal links? There was a difference in the GTL that said use See also and, what was it, talk page project tags? RlevseTalk 11:07, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

There was never any clear answer. I'm going with GTL; I'm not sure what WP:Portal is, but it is not marked as a guideline. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
OK. RlevseTalk 02:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Request

Hi Ed,

If you have the time, would you take a glance at Towson United Methodist Church to let me know if it might be suitable for FAC? Cheers,  JGHowes  talk 15:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:List of Scouts

I just thought of this, is there a list of Scouts at Brownsea? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Even a simple list of who was there is not clear. See the Scouting Milestones site. --Bduke (Discussion) 11:08, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but as Bduke says, there's a little ambiguity in it. RlevseTalk 11:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

William D. Boyce

Happy Holidays! I'm done with the raw info here. The lead needs expanded (which I'll try to work on), and there's some overlap in the business and expedition sections that I'm not sure what to do with. Also, it could use your brilliant touch before FAC. Any help is appreciated. RlevseTalk 20:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Template proposal

See Template_talk:ScoutingWikiProject#MetaBanner and chime in please. This is right up your alley. RlevseTalk 12:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Replied on that talk page. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)