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Sybille Bedford

Hey, I thought your additions to the Sybille Bedford article were really nice. So, um, good job! Watchsmart (talk) 19:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Colgate University

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Hi we are a group from Colgate University and we plan on editing this article. We have plans to improve the quality of sources and information. We will be making edits until May 9. If you have any contributions or questions please let us know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epenberthy1217 (talkcontribs) 16:03, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ngaire Thomas

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Updated DYK query On 15 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ngaire Thomas, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Elkman (Elkspeak) 14:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Guenther Podola

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Updated DYK query On 19 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Guenther Podola, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 17:57, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK!

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Updated DYK query On 21 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Michael Ashby, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Majorly (talk) 15:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK!

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Updated DYK query On 2 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John B. Harman, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congrats! Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:19, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Melford Stevenson

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Updated DYK query On 8 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Melford Stevenson, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 12:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

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Updated DYK query On 10 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Styllou Christofi, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Wknight94 (talk) 18:39, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You asked for some citations on the claim about British and American submarine atrocities; I've was looking into this and it seems to be true. I've been adding the information to the relevant pages. I've left the Eck page alone so far; it's very apologist in its tone, but I'm not in the mood to tackle it just now. Xyl 54 (talk) 17:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chełm Chalk Tunnels

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Updated DYK query On 22 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chełm Chalk Tunnels, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 12:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Inteco DYK

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Updated DYK query On 29 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Inteco, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 22:33, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if my actions somehow concerned you. I considered the crime unimportant because no article existed for it and there was only one reference for the conviction. A very WP:CIVIL discussion took place here about it. The process worked as it should. Cheers GtstrickyTalk or C 22:06, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK: Town Hall of Słupsk

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Updated DYK query On 9 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Town Hall of Słupsk, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--PFHLai (talk) 08:51, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK: Colin Norris

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Updated DYK query On 9 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Colin Norris, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--PFHLai (talk) 00:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Spieprzaj dziadu!, was selected for DYK!

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Updated DYK query On March 15, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Spieprzaj dziadu!, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid (talk) 04:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Recognition

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Thanks for recognizing my work on the John Bodkin Adams article. Little notes of encouragement go a long way.--SidP (talk) 03:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kot Filemon DYK

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Updated DYK query On 8 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kot Filemon, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Daniel Case (talk) 04:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

4/23 DYK

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Updated DYK query On 23 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Percy Hoskins, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford 22:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Updated DYK queryPortals The Did you know? hook based on a fact from the article you created or substantially expanded, Percy Hoskins, has been added to the Wikipedia Portals, Portal:Criminal justice and Portal:Journalism. Thank you for your contributions in this topic! If you know of another relevant fact from an article that has appeared at Did you know?, then please suggest it at the associated portal talk page.

-- Nice work! Cirt (talk) 00:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


5/14 DYK

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Updated DYK query On 14 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Arthur Henry Douthwaite, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford 05:02, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Congratulations!

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Updated DYK query On 15 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Frederick Geoffrey Lawrence, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 08:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


DYK

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Updated DYK query On 1 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Leonard Arthur, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 14:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nigel Cox DYK

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Updated DYK query On 9 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nigel Cox (doctor), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations! --PeterSymonds (talk) 19:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

David Moor DYK

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Updated DYK query On 15 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article David Moor, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations! --PeterSymonds (talk) 23:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John Bodkin Adams - GA review

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The seven-day Hold has expired. I will complete the review on the basis of the article as it is now. It would have been useful to have had some kind of comment from you. Brianboulton (talk) 20:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. I can see that a lot of work has been done - will try to report on the GA later today. Brianboulton (talk) 09:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rodney Hallworth

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Updated DYK query On 10 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Rodney Hallworth, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 16:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

9/13/08 DYK

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Updated DYK query On 13 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Maxim Petrov, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thank you for your contributions! -- RyRy (talk) 22:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

logocracy-

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Updated DYK query On 16 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article logocracy, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:58, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sanlu Group

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Updated DYK query On 18 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sanlu Group, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 18:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK 24/9

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Updated DYK query On 24 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Shipman Inquiry, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 18:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We had most of the information already, but just tucked down further in the article. But thanks for what you have done. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 06:39, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Thomas Lodwig

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Updated DYK query On 29 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Thomas Lodwig, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 08:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Edson Isidora Guimaraes

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Updated DYK query On 2 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Edson Isidora Guimaraes, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 03:07, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Offset agreement

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Updated DYK query On 16 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Offset agreement, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 21:54, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hanwei Group

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Updated DYK query On 4 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hanwei Group, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

This DYK notification was delayed due to some mistake in the crediting for a recent batch of hooks (discussion here). Thanks, JamieS93 11:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, glad to help! :-) JamieS93 18:55, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Edward William Pritchard

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Updated DYK query On 4 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Edward William Pritchard, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 14:41, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Hello! Your submission of Moscow Pride at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Otto4711 (talk) 21:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Rebellion: the Litvinenko Case

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Updated DYK query On 21 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Rebellion: the Litvinenko Case, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 06:15, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Moscow Pride

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Updated DYK query On 21 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Moscow Pride, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 18:26, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Take notice of

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the pending discussion of Putin's pic on Talk:Vladimir Putin.Muscovite99 (talk) 20:09, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the "Opposition to homosexuality" section in Alex II article had apparently been removed; i put it back, but i suspect it may take some watching.Muscovite99 (talk) 20:25, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for The Beggar's Benison

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Updated DYK query On 1 January, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Beggar's Benison, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 09:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of John Barnard Byles

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Hello! Your submission of John Barnard Byles at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Dravecky (talk) 10:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Catherine Wilson

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Updated DYK query On January 11, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Catherine Wilson, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Royalbroil 04:14, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for John Barnard Byles

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Updated DYK query On January 11, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Barnard Byles, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations for your double nom hook! I know it's hard to do. Royalbroil 04:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for John Selby Watson

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Updated DYK query On January 13, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Selby Watson, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 15:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of John Emsley

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A tag has been placed on John Emsley requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Cerejota (talk) 07:58, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for William Weston (Explorer)

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Updated DYK query On August 30, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article William Weston (Explorer), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Jake Wartenberg 11:15, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 2009 Chinese lead poisoning scandal

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Updated DYK query On September 25, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 2009 Chinese lead poisoning scandal, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

≈ Chamal talk ¤ 12:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


You are now a Reviewer

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Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, will be commencing a two-month trial at approximately 23:00, 2010 June 15 (UTC).

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Whale meat

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Thanks for the edits. It could get good DYK attention in a few days, so having it balanced with no tags would be great. I could sure use a hand fixing it up. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination for Government by itineration

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Hello, please see your nomination of Government by itineration at DYK for comments.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:25, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...and also the one for Howard Martin, which has a minor issue about a word in the hook. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 00:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved. Good luck on the DYK. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 01:06, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

please notify in the future

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In the future, if you are going to mention me on somebody's talk page or anywhere else for that matter, particularly if you're making negative comments about me, as you did here [1], I would appreciate it if you'd let me know. Otherwise there's a certain unpleasant "talking about somebody behind their back" aspect to these kinds of comments. Thanks.radek (talk) 00:28, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Erm, no. Malick78 (talk) 12:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Government by itineration

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The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 20 August 2010 (UTC)


I have nominated Spieprzaj dziadu!, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spieprzaj dziadu! (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Spartaz Humbug! 04:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I have nominated Robert George Clements, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert George Clements. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Claritas § 20:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


DYK for Mikhail Beketov

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The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


DYK for Viktor Kalashnikov

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Materialscientist (talk) 06:04, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Marina Kalashnikova

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Materialscientist (talk) 06:04, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Rudolf Elmer

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HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:02, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for David T. Beers

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Gatoclass (talk) 16:02, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Catherine Wilson

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Hi! I recently found the page Catherine Wilson, which tells a fascinating story. I'm interested in working on its references. I wanted to let you know because I consider it "your" article. Please drop me a note if you have any thoughts about the question I mention at Talk:Catherine Wilson. --Officiallyover (talk) 12:44, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Nomination of Murzyn for deletion

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DYK for Murzynek Bambo

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Materialscientist (talk) 00:58, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Gadzhimurat Kamalov

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User Greyhood is active again adding highly POV sections such as this [2]. Närking (talk) 22:57, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article Kelly Marcel has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable person, barely known for one event.

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nice work on the Mikhail Beketov article. Decora (talk) 02:30, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hilarious

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I'm still laughing :) [3] Närking (talk) 20:19, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Leaves which eat animals

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Hi Malick78: I saw the article you posted on the leaf talk page—neat!! Thanks for sharing it. You might also post the message on the Carnivorous plant talk page. In a quick check, I didn't see anything mentioned about the involved species in that article. Regards, Pinethicket (talk) 10:39, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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A gift for the defender of Wikipedia!

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For your relentless dedication to improving Wikipedia
Hello, I've noticed all the hard work you've done to keep many articles (such as article about Putin and similar ones) as encyclopedic and as neutral as possible (even if it meant you had to battle with many "agenda pushers" throughout your editing history) so I believe you deserve some recognition for that ;-) Hopefully you won't mind a custom image! Rndomuser (talk) 04:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, you're most kind! Malick78 (talk) 21:14, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but you need a ref, or at least an example, that this is common, or found in English. I can't think of any examples, anyway, and sources say these are rare. — kwami (talk) 22:29, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Polish examples don't look like disfixation. I just checked Swan (2002) and a couple other sources, and all show a null suffix for the gen.pl. For example, mysz does not become *my in the gen.pl. — kwami (talk) 03:09, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

putin mafia state after 2010

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you cannot just revert evrything i do on my edits on the putin article, you do not own the article! and you got to keep your "mafia state" but that term was not used until 1 december 2010 so it must be noted as such Peterzor (talk) 15:18, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • You may notice that no one else is defending your edits or reinstating them. That's a strong hint that others disagree with them. In particular, your last edit regarding when the term appeared with unnecessarily detailed for the intro, and the grammar was wrong. Hence I removed it. It was also your own OR (where did you get the info that the term wasn't used before 2010?).Malick78 (talk) 18:10, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

i realized that you were right the whole time

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after getting some further information about the subject i realise that "mafia state" is not just a western media term but it seems very many russian agree with it, so you were right the whole time and please note that this should not come as a "surprise" because i never was a putin supporter just merely seeing things as they are and seeing beyond the thinking of the media Peterzor (talk) 16:08, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

what do you mean with "get a bit carried away sometimes"? i did not "get a bit carried away sometimes" Peterzor (talk) 19:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • You were absolutely adamant that 'mafia state' was not a fair term to use when describing Putin's Russia, but above you seem to have said that it is more widely used than you thought. I didn't mean to offend.Malick78 (talk) 20:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good response i guess people can do mistakes sometimes Peterzor (talk) 08:50, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I totally retract my remarks and statements here! you tricked me into beliving some nonsense, after even further research i see there is no single russian (pro and against putin) source found anywhere nor so many russians agreeing with that and even such russian sources exist they are do not comply with wikipedia policy Peterzor (talk) 17:18, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. A while back, you reverted an anonymous user's edit, but that user was in fact correct, and I have basically reverted you. It's a common misnomer to call the rook a "castle". The article as you reverted it to was not in accord with chess terminology.--Jasper Deng (talk) 03:40, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi, while I realise chess players may prefer (somewhat pretentiously) to say only 'rook', it's also true that 'castle' is used by a large amount of ordinary players and in my view is therefore not wrong. Where do you think the term castling comes from, after all? It seems, from the 'wrong' term for the piece? :) Malick78 (talk) 13:59, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Castle" is used by few players, and it's generally those who are just learning the game. The etymology is not explained in the castling article, but 1 - foreign languages tend to base their term for the move off their word for "rook", and English is an exception, 2 - the term seems to refer more to the formation of a fortress-like setup rather than the involvement of the castle-shaped piece.
In any case, the piece is formally a rook, and Wikipedia strives to be formal.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:09, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, Wikipedia tries to be accessible so the most commonly used term is often encouraged: in our case, we have two commonly used terms - and, if you'd care to google the terms chess+rook and chess+castle, as I just did, you'll find that the latter gets 7 times more hits. That's quite a difference. Even if you add "+knight" to make sure chess pages are hit, you still get over double the number for 'castle'. So, in my view, self-proclaimed chess aficionados' preference for 'rook' is a mere snobbery. Amateur players are happy to say 'castle' but that certainly doesn't mean that 'castle' is any worse. (Btw, are you American? Perhaps usage differs regionally?) I added 'castle' to the page because (if I recall correctly) someone had removed it - which struck me as being unnecessarily pretentious.
As for your theory of the etymological root of 'castling', I'm almost certain your suggestion is wrong but etymonline.com gives us no help with it. As a professional linguist I'd say, however, that the simplest solution is most likely - that it's all because the 'castle' is involved. That's why in Russian it's "rokirovka", not a word based on 'zamok' - their word for castle, which would be the case if the move was being named after 'making a defensive castle-like structure'. Malick78 (talk) 18:56, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No. Not only is "castle" not a common term among experienced players (which I am), it's not common enough to justify the use of this misspelling. I might consider myself to have a conflict of interest, being a player, but in my opinion it's unprofessional to call the piece a "castle" when its proper name is a rook (no, amateurs tend to use the word rook, only absolute beginners tend to use "castle"). I also strongly disagree with your conclusion about its etymology because it makes no sense in the context of the way the game is played. The rook is not changed, except by position, when castling occurs - other than being more centralized, it's not given anything special. On the other hand, the king enjoys a fortification of pawns, which is often critical in professional games.
I also believe that it's better to encourage the use of the proper term, rather than the improper one.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, let's agree to disagree :) I won't undo your edit, but really, as the grandson of a man who represented his county in British chess competitions, I was taught to say 'rook' and 'castle'. At chess club at school, 'castle' was acceptable. And no one ever corrected me in regional competitions when I entered them as a kid. 'Castle' is acceptable amongst many people and the idea that it's "incorrect" is mere snobbery, IMHO :)
As for etymology, the fact that the king gains from interaction with the 'castle' is reason enough to name the move after the piece involved. Etymology is frequently very simple (I'm an expert on English and Slavonic etymology, I'll humbly add ;) ), and I fear you're overthinking things. Regards, Malick78 (talk) 19:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Why did you destroy my work in the Western betrayal article? If the grammar is bad, improve it. If it is not neutral, then talk to Polish historian Piotr Zychowicz. Tymek (talk) 21:30, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

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Why did you delete my entry of "William Dobbie" on the "Plymouth Brethren" page? It was already noted on Dobbie's Wikipedia page that he adhered to Plymouth Brethren principles. I didn't put that in his bio. So, there's no reason to delete Dobbie's name from the "Plymouth Brethren" page. Canihaveacookie (Talk), October 6, 2013, 18:57 (UTC)

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Murzyn

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It was late night, may be I was careless. I will double-check. In any case in some of these pieces something was definitely wrong. Sorry for trouble, if I was mistaken or unclear. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:12, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Putin Forbes ranking

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A little over 2 weeks ago, you removed the Forbes ranking from Putin's article, and I assume an IP isn't happy with that. See WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#forbes and WP:NOTNEWS. NFLisAwesome (ZappaOMati's alternate account) 20:45, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Errors on 25 September

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Plymouth Brethren (membership list)

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Hi Malick. Thank you for your comments. I replied to your comment on the talkpage of the Plymouth Brethren article; just in case you don't see it there, I thought I'd repeat it here : No, it's not whitewashing. The names in question have not been removed — they have simply been moved. What's happened is that four articles — Plymouth Brethren, Open Brethren, Exclusive Brethren, and Plymouth Brethren Christian Church have been reorganized. The Plymouth Brethren article now contains material that is common to all branches and offshoots of the Plymouth Brethren tradition. Material that relates specifically to the Open or Exclusive Brethren has been moved to the relevant articles. The same goes for the "membership list" — the Open/Exclusive schism took place in 1848, so what we're trying to do is put the early Brethren "pioneers" (people that would be regarded as such by both the Opens and the Exclusives) in this this list, with others moved to the branches/offshoots they were part of. For example, Luis Palau was brought up in the Open Brethren; I doubt that he has ever set foot inside an Exclusive Brethren "hall" in his life. Therefore it makes little sense to put him any place but the "open" list. I repeat: there is NO attempt to "sanitize" these lists. Adams, BTW, is now in the "Open Brethren" list. David Cannon (talk) 12:13, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Folly?

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Hi, re the edit you made on Folly, the biggest issue on the (little visited) talk page is what IS a folly, what are the limits, although some claim NO practical purpose, others say that the design has to be wholly disproportionate to any purpose (an ancient Greek Temple to keep the lawn-mower in?). The definition used in the intro is:

'This sense included conventional, practical, buildings that were thought unduly large or expensive, such as Beckford's Folly, an extremely expensive early Gothic Revival country house that collapsed under the weight of its tower in 1825, 12 years after completion. As a general term, "folly" is usually applied to a small building that appears to have no practical purpose, or the purpose of which appears less important than its striking and unusual design, but the term is ultimately subjective, so a precise definition is not possible'.

So I'm not sure whether 'Swallow's nest' is in or out. Many of the buildings on our list have (or had) some practical purpose. What seems wholly outside the idea of a folly, is a mere 'novelty building', especially if it was consciously a piece of advertisement. … … ps I have no 'axe to grind' on this, I am just trying to keep the article consistent. Pincrete (talk) 19:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

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This wiki-kitten is here to say "Thank you for your continued efforts to make this project better". Like a kitten, Wikipedia may occasionally scratch, but it is still worth it! Cheers.

Hi, Malick78. For the first time today, I run into an article you wrote and DYKed back in the old days, called Rebellion: the Litvinenko Case ( 2008‎). I really enjoyed it. I added Infobox with the release poster as well as internal and external links. From our past interaction I know you to be an objective observer, and I'm sorry for having caused you the inconvenience or hurt during the EEML squabble. I feel terrible about it. I promise to work toward not making the same mistake again. I can also understand why (under the circumstances) you have made these edits to my anthology four years ago. There were only two poets in the book (confirmed by wp:rs). I see no reason to keep it a secret after all these years, irrespective of its significance or lack of thereof, on the World Stage.[4],[5],[6],[7],[8],[9] All best, Poeticbent talk 19:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Malick78,

Good day. I have read about how to properly respond to an editor, and I have watched tutorials as well.

This is my first-ever attempt to contact a Wikipedia editor; so if I have made any mistakes in form, please excuse me.

I have tried to tag you in my response but nothing seemed to work. So, I hope that this attempt to engage you works.

I also explain why at the end of this note why I am personally making these comments. Finally, I have written my real name for all of Wikipedia's community to see in order to be as transparent as possible.

I look forward to hearing from you, and I do hope that I have treated you with respect. If there is any language used by me that you find not respectful, please let me know and I will amend the offensive language.

Kind regards,

Ronald K. Noble


Malick78 edits to the Wikipedia page about me violate Wikipedia’s “standards (which) require verifiability, neutrality, respect for living people….” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Enforcement#Enforcement by citing a biased sourced article based and by misrepresenting or misleading the reader about the content of the cited article in a way which discredits a living person. As of this date, 6 December 2015, I am assuming that all errors were made in good faith.

I. Bias: The obvious point of bias is contained in the following sentence used by editor Malick78: “BBC journalist John Sweeney has criticised Noble for endorsing the KGB's investigation, citing critique by the suspect Dmitry Konovalov's mother, Lyubov Kovalyova.” It is one of the most well-established principles of evidentiary law that loving parents are biased in favor of their children. “Typical associations that form the basis for showing bias are family relationships (e.g. mother, father…)” A Practical Guide to Federal evidence, Anthony J. Bocchino, ‎David A. Sonenshein, 2006. Editor Malick78’s response to the challenge of a mother’s bias is “no, citing a mother isn’t always biased.” That’s true, when the mother’s opinion contradicts her natural bias: a loving mother who testifies against her son in a criminal prosecution would not be considered biased. But a loving mother who criticizes the investigation that led to her son’s arrest and conviction would obviously be considered biased. Wikipedia advises editors to “use common sense when interpreting and applying policies and guidelines; there will be occasional exceptions to these rules.” For this reason alone, editor Malick78’s post violated Wikipedia’s standards requiring neutrality.

II. Verifiability & Reliability: Editor Malick78 has included factual statements that are proven false based on a simple reading of the article that cited by him/her. A. Editor Malick78’s entry states “John Sweeney has criticized Noble for endorsing the KGB's investigation.” False: 1. Nowhere does the cited article say that Noble endorsed the KGB investigation. The cited article states: “The following month Secretary General Noble arrived in Minsk and praised ‘the high professionalism’ of the Interior Ministry officials for solving the case so quickly - long before their trial took place.” Moreover, the cited article expressly states: “The Secretary General seemed unaware that the KGB led the investigation….”http://www.bbc.com/news/world-19012541 B. Editor Malick78’s entry misleads the reader by implying that the convicted murderer’s mother criticized Noble. He writes: “BBC journalist John Sweeney has criticised Noble for endorsing the KGB's investigation, citing critique by the suspect Dmitry Konovalov's mother, Lyubov Kovalyova.” In fact, the mother never made one reference directly or indirectly to Noble in the cited article. She criticized the investigation itself.

III. Respect for living people: Wikipedia’s standards show a deep concern for protecting living persons from biased, false and misleading entries about them. I quote: “Purpose: Because living persons may suffer personal harm from inappropriate information, we should watch their articles carefully. This category exists to help Wikipedia editors improve the quality of biographies of living persons by ensuring that the articles maintain a neutral point of view, maintain factual accuracy, and are properly sourced.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Living_people Editor Malick78 has submitted entries that were not neutral; were inaccurate and were not properly sourced. Example: Editor Malick78 has created a heading in my personal biograph entitled “Criticism for response to Belarus metro bombing.” His entry then misleads the reader into thinking that the independent institution of the BBC and its reporter John Sweeney have produced a neutral article that criticizes me. In fact, the article uses a loving mother’s criticism of the investigation that led to her son’s arrest and conviction for a terrorist attack where 15 innocent persons were killed and injured many more injured. Editor Malick78 distorts the article into making it appear that the mother was criticizing me. The placement of this section in a Wikipedia personal biography page about me limits my ability to set the record straight. Instead of making corrections in the Wikipedia article entitled “Belarus Metro Bombing” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Minsk_Metro_bombing where my voice as an editor could be deemed as neutral, I must correct it on a Wikipedia page about me, where any edits by me would appear biased.

IV. Wikipedia the Encyclopedia and Editor Malick78 I have read some of Editor Malick78’s articles in Wikipedia. Many reflect exhaustive and careful research. He or she has rightfully received compliments for the care taking in creating and editing some of these articles. My dispute with him/her here does not go to his/her integrity or good faith. Instead, it goes to the heart of Wikipedia as an encyclopedia. I quote from Wikipedia’s own stated purpose which is : “to benefit readers by acting as an encyclopedia, a comprehensive written compendium that contains information on all branches of knowledge within its five pillars.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Purpose Indeed, “the purpose of an encyclopedia is to collect knowledge disseminated around the globe; to set forth its general system to the men with whom we live, and transmit it to those who will come after us, so that the work of preceding centuries will not become useless to the centuries to come; and so that our offspring, becoming better instructed, will at the same time become more virtuous and happy, and that we should not die without having rendered a service to the human race.”Diderot[1] It is my hope that Editor Malick78 will take this long note not as an attack on him/her personally, but as a correction that I hope will lead to a decision by him to exclude from this page of this section, a biased criticism from the mother of a convicted murderer criticizing an investigation--and not me. As I have already said, if Editor Malick78 wishes to highlight criticism of the investigation of the Belarus metro bombing, there is an article that has been created for that purpose. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Minsk_Metro_bombing

I allowed this biased entry entitled "Belarus Metro Bombing Controversy" that violated Wikipedia's standards to remain visible on my Wikipedia biographical page for years while I was a public servant. Please see the comments of Robofish entered on the 22 August 2012 which I quote here: ":This article recently had a section added criticising Noble's comments on the Belarus metro bombing case, where he praised the investigation and congratulated the authorities for capturing the suspects before the trial had taken place. This section is currently unsourced. I believe it was based on a recent film report by the BBC, available to British viewers here:[2] However, that doesn't seem to me like an ideal source because of its nature: does anyone have a text-based one, preferably available online, that we can use? Robofish (talk) 00:57, 22 August 2012 (UTC)" While INTERPOL Secretary General, I did not allow any of my public affairs team to remove this section. I was accountable to 190 member countries as Secretary General. Any one of these countries could have asked me to explain my comments, but not one country did.

Now, as a private citizen without an institution to protect me, I will insist that any Wikipedia editor who wishes to use my biography to criticize an event like the 2011 Belarus Metro Bombing play by Wikipedia's rules. Moreover, if the editor wishes to criticize the event, then he or she do it in a forum dedicated to the event; so each of us can have a fair and equal opportunity to find neutral point of view, verifiable and reliable sources about the event in question. But, if an editor wishes to criticize a living person who is a private citizen in that private citizen's biography, then that editor should take special care to make sure that his or her edits reflect a neutral point of view and that his or her sources are verifiable and neutral. He or she should not camouflage or mischaracterize the biased opinion of a mother as a neutral point of view.

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia -- not a talk forum for a Wikipedia editor to advance a mother's obviously biased opinion about her convicted son's case having been improperly investigated and then to mischaracterize that biased criticism of an investigation as a NPOV criticism of a living person.

Ronald K. Noble, 7 December 2015

RKN888 (talk) 03:42, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, on the Forza Italia talk page we're discussing whether "and convicted criminal" should be added to the description of Silvio Berlusconi in the lead, and also whether we should say that in the article about Berlusconi himself. We could use a few more voices, do you care to chime in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.60.84.2 (talk) 19:47, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Eastbourne pier 1870.jpg listed for discussion

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A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Eastbourne pier 1870.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. ~ Rob13Talk 15:26, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your foul mouth and your threats

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I brought an error on your User page to your attention and your response was boorish and bullying. You seemed obsessed with the penis as a term of disdain, and I won't have you threaten me for correcting your English. You should have corrected your error, but you have refused to do so. Autodidact1 (talk) 20:08, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • You were rude by editing my private user page: you can edit anything on WP but not user pages. The user edits them. Hence, you were a dick for breaking that rule. You've been editing a couple of years, so you must know this. Use talk pages. Secondly, you were wrong about the verb you were correcting and hadn't even checked a dictionary. "Polish off" can mean to finish, as evidenced here. That's why you're a dick. Malick78 (talk) 20:25, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Malick, behave, or editors can get you banned on the recent comments you've made. Stay civil at all times.


Women in Wimpy were assumed to be prostitutes

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Hmm, well, in 1970 women were still banned from frequenting Wimpy's on their own late at night - because they would likely be a prostitute! Read the last few paras of this BBC article on Thatcher to see it mentioned. That titbit surely has to go in the article, but where?? :) Malick78 (talk) 18:21, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's taken four years, but I added that interesting piece to the Wimpy (restaurant) article today. Though I left out the assumption that they were prostitutes, leaving the explanation up to each reader. SilkTork ✔Tea time 10:37, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Great! Malick78 (talk) 10:42, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

John Bodkin Adams

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Although I was aware from the recent View history and talk pages that you had been involved in the Adams article, I didn’t realise until I saw your User Page the extent of your involvement in many aspects of his life and case, which deserve congratulations. I think that our viewpoints differ, but there should be room for both. The more thorough sources rely on different things; Cullen and Hallworth on the police investigation, Bedford and Devlin on evidence at trial and Hoskins and Surtees on a range of issues. The police investigation wasn’t perfect: both Cullen and Devlin question Hannam’s fixation on a financial motive, Delvin thinks the investigation was hasty and Cullen criticises a failure to investigate the Duke of Devonshire’s death. More significantly, there is a difference between what the investigators may have thought incriminating and what prosecuting counsel needed for a sustainable case. The idea that Manningham-Buller deliberately chose a weak case because of political interference (or even did so carelessly) falls away when it becomes clear what he needed was to prove murder. Based on his opening speech, he seemed to have a strong case in Morrell, even though the wheels came off it quickly.

Mrs Hullett died on 23rd July 1956, and her inquest was formally opened and adjourned on the same day (Devlin, pp. ix, 15). On the same day, the Eastbourne police opened an investigation into her death, either because the coroner referred it (Devlin, p. 15) or following an anonymous call (Cullen, pp. 15-17). It was taken over by the Metropolitan police on 17th August (Cullen, p. 40) and extended in scope. Mrs. Morell’s nurses were interviewed in August 1956 (Devlin, p. 63), and made statements that Adams gave all her injections, usually when they were out of the room, and they were unaware what they contained (Devlin, p. 60). Cullen (pp. 593, 598) extends Adam’s failure or refusal to disclose to attending nurses what he was injecting to other cases, and adds that he isolated patients from their families. The police also became aware of his lavish use of heroin and morphia (morphine) (Devlin, p. 53) and obtained lists of the amounts supplied to Adams since 1950 at an early stage.

On 1st October 1956, Hannam (who knew the quantity of drugs prescribed, but not how much had been injected, and who needed evidence of motive), had a conversation with Adams about gifts and legacies from Mr and Mrs Hullett and Mrs. Morell, and possibly others (Devlin, pp. 21-2). He had already formed the view the motive was money and never revised his opinion (Cullen, p. 637), (Devlin, p. 20), probably exaggerating the cash involved (Devlin, p. 10).

On 24th November, the police executed a search warrant of Adam’s home and surgery under the Dangerous Drugs Act, looking for opiate drugs: at the same time, Hannam presented him with a list of such drugs supplied by pharmacists. The aim was to see, as Devlin says (p. 53), whether any unused drugs had been hoarded. He also obtained Adam’s admission that he had administered nearly all injections himself (Devlin, pp. 23, 54).

Devlin states that, to succeed in the trial of a murder case against Adams, the prosecution had to show, firstly, there had been an unnatural death, secondly, an act by Adams was capable of being murderous (such as an injection so large as to cause death) and finally Adams’ intent to kill (Devlin, pp. 122-3). It was not strictly necessary to prove a motive but, without one, it had to be shown Adams’ actions could only be interpreted as intentional murder (Devlin, p. 123). By 26th November 1956, Hannam had completed enquiries into around a dozen cases, including those of Mrs. Morell, Mr and Mrs Hullett and Mr Downs, these four being the only ones in which evidence was put on oath (Devlin, pp. 24-5). Cullen mentions Mrs. Morell, Mrs Hullett, Clara Neil Miller and Julia Bradnum as cases that Hannam regarded as warranting prosecution, and also Mr Hullett (pp. 250, 636).

As far as can be determined from Hannam’s methodology, he focussed on motive. His starting point was to see from whose wills Adams had benefitted; if Adams was known to have exerted influence on the patient to leave him a legacy, this was further grounds for suspicion; if the patient had received treatment from Adams and died soon after, this was another black mark, made worse by indications of over-prescribing, and if Adams subsequently reacted in a suspicious way, this completed the picture.

The fallacy of this approach is seen in the cases of Mr Hullett, Clara Miller and Julia Bradnum as, before going into motive, there needed to be a murder. Mr Hullett’s case was mentioned at the committal (Devlin, pp. 12, 31, 145). He had been operated on for a colon cancer but it was likely to be fatal eventually. Around four months after the operation, he was taken ill. Adams was called and gave him a morphia injection at 10.30 pm. Hullett slept until 6 am, woke up and spoke briefly before going back to sleep, and died soon after. At the committal, based on an Adams prescription for 5 grains of morphia, it was alleged he had injected Hullett with this amount, a fatal dose. However, under cross-examination the Crown’s expert witness admitted that Hullett could not have woken up and held a brief conversation the next morning after a 5 grain injection, so a smaller, non-lethal injection was probable. He also accepted that Hullett died from a heart attack, as Adams had said (Devlin, 12, 31). The bodies of both Clara Miller and Julia Bradnum were exhumed. The pathologist concluded that the former had died from pneumonia that might have been aggravated by drugs prescribed by Adams (Cullen, p. 143): the condition of the latter’s body did not allow a cause of death to be stated (Cullen, pp. 107-8). However strong any apparent financial motive or however suspicious Adam’s misstatement of the causes of the two women’s deaths, there could be no trial for murder where an unnatural death could not be proved.

Mrs Hullett had died an unnatural death, of a barbiturate overdose (Devlin, pp. 13-14), and Adam’s reaction in denying any possibility of poisoning was highly suspicious, as was his extraction of a cheque for £1,000 from her a few days before her death. Devlin, while not ruling out Adams assisted in her suicide in some way, considers it was an obvious case of suicide, and a suggestion that Adams made a secret, unobserved visit to persuaded her to take barbiturates was improbable (Devlin, pp. 31-2, 218). However, as there was no evidence that Adams had prescribed a large quantity of barbiturates rather than, as he said, giving her a dose daily, Devlin could not go beyond suspicion (pp. 198, 218).

Devlin was aware in 1985 that some considered Mrs Hullett’s case was stronger (pp. 8, 11), referring to Hallworth and Williams’ book published in 1983, after the deaths of Manningham-Buller, Adams and also Hannam. This quotes Charles Hewitt, who was a Hannam’s detective sergeant, as blaming the prosecution for choosing the Morrell charge for trial over others and Manningham-Buller for failing to gain a conviction (Hallworth and Williams, pp. 58, 61). Hewett in particular mentioned Hilda and Clara Neil Miller as better cases, despite inconclusive autopsies (Hallworth and Williams, p. 41), (Devlin, p. 25). Cullen (p. 636) mentions Hannam had selected Mrs. Morell, Mrs Hullett, Clara Neil Miller and Julia Bradnum without stating he had any preferences, but records her own view that Morrell was the weakest of those four (Cullen p. 636). Devlin believed that Mrs Morrell’s case was the strongest of the four where evidence was on oath and that, had Mrs Hullett’s case been brought to trial after Adams’ first acquittal, a second acquittal was virtually certain (Devlin, pp. 25, 179). Considering Devlin’s analysis of what was needed to prove murder none of Clara and Hilda Neil Miller, Julia Bradnum or Mr Hullett could be proven to have died unnatural deaths.

Sources Pamela Cullen (2006). A Stranger in Blood: The Case Files on Dr John Bodkin Adams. London: Elliott & Thompson. ISBN 1-904027-19-9.

Patrick Devlin, (1985). Easing the passing: The trial of Doctor John Bodkin Adams. London: The Bodley Head. ISBN 0-571-13993-0.

Rodney Hallworth and Mark Williams (1983). Where there's a will... The sensational life of Dr John Bodkin Adams. Jersey: Capstan Press. ISBN 0-946797-00-5.

I have no intention of putting this amount of information into the article, but adding two sentences, one on Devlin's counter-view, the second on his reasoning balances the subsection on Case selection. However, once the balance is added, there is the question of whether there should be a new section Pre-trail, including Case selection and Committal hearing (which isn't really part of the Police investigation).

Your views would be welcome.

Sscoulsdon (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hello, thanks for your comments! I'm very busy right now so I'll come back to them in a couple of days, but I thought I'd underline my view on Devlin: he had an amazing mind and wrote clearly and brilliantly, but his book is hamstrung by two, perhaps threee, things. A) he didn't have access to the amount of evidence needed to get to the bottom of things, i.e. the police files. Secondly, as an esteemed member of the judiciary, he was overcautious in criticising Adams, after all - he'd been acquitted. Devlin was loathe to overly criticise British justice, the prosecution or the police. He had to think of his reputation, position and posterity. Lastly, did he really understand the mind of a serial killer? This was the early 80s and he was aging, perhaps not aware of the latest thinking on the matter. What do you think? Malick78 (talk) 13:34, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for this: there are perhaps four comments I could make. Firstly, in 1957, as in 2017, it was the job of the police to investigate a reported crime, to determine if a crime has been committed and arrest a suspect. It was then the job of the Director of Public Prosecutions, or in very serious cases of the Attorney- or Solicitor-General (now just the Crown Prosecution Service) to review the police case and decide whether to prosecute and, in more serious cases, what to prosecute: this was not the police's job. Secondly, what case to prosecute depends on legal issues, not just the police investigation. The two, but connected, legal issues here were that in 1957 a single indictment could only include one murder, and evidence from other investigations was not admissible, which limited the prosecutions options. Thirdly, although I have referenced Devlin, the purely factual case of Mr Hullett, where the defence at the committal hearing got the Crown's expert medical witness to admit that Mr Hullett could not have been killed by a 5 grain heroin injection, but probably died of a heart attack shows that, in this case at least, the police could be wrong on what was a suitable case. Finally, the issue here is not whether Adams murdered any or many people, but only the case selection for trial.

Hewitt blamed the prosecution for choosing the Morrell charge over Mrs Hullett. From the police's point of view, this seems credible. However, the Attorney-General had evidence that Adams had prescribed large quantities of opiates to Mrs Morrell, Adams' own admissions that he had used all these on Mrs Morrell and injected all or almost all of them himself, and a medical expert's testimony that the only possible reason to inject so much over a short time was to kill her. This was, at the outset, arguably a better case than that for Mrs Hullett, where Adams had made no admission beyond giving her two barbiturate tablets daily, which she could have hoarded.

I'm not suggesting removing what Hewitt said, but it is not the last word on the matter, and should be balanced by saying that the Attorney-General had an arguable case for choosing Mrs Morrell and leaving it for readers to form their own judgement.

Regards,

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Dear Malick78,

I am prompted to contact by your reversion of an edit I made in Patrick Devlin, Baron Devlin on 28th March 2019. Although relatively minor in itself, in brings into question your excessive reliance on a single source, that of Patricia Cullen.

You substantially enlarged the article on John Bodkin Adams in February and March 2006, with no more than around a dozen citations, mostly from Cullen and, although you did add further citations and page numbers later, the vast majority were to Cullen. As early as your comments in the Talk section of John Bodkin Adams of November 2007 and August 2009, you make your almost complete reliance on Cullen clear, and use her as justification for an NPOV issue of calling him a serial killer. Cullen is not the only source, or even the only source who has read the police archives: such sources as Robins, "The Curious Habits of Dr Adams: A 1950s Murder Mystery" and Mahar, "Easing the Passing: R v Adams and Terminal Care in Post-war Britain" who have read the archives but, firstly, read them more thoroughly and, secondly without intruding their own opinions need to be considered.

The unreliability of Cullen can be considered under five headings. First are her claims, for example that Adams was already Mrs Morell's doctor before her stroke, treated her and started opiate injections there and brought her back to Eastbourne or that Herbert Hannam was promoted to Commander in the Metropolitan Police after Adams' trial rather than being subject to disciplinary proceedings. Next are her misrepresentations, for example that Nolle prosequi left Adams under any real danger of subsequent prosecution or that Manningham-Buller alone was responsible for the decision to prosecute the Morell casem whereas he relied on the opinions of a pathologist and a recognised authority on opiates, assuring him that the amounts of opiates prescribed for Mrs Morrell would undoubtedly have been fatal. Third is what Cullen doesn't say, presumably intentionally: that Hannam's Chief Superintendent and Commander initially thought Hannam's case was speculative, based on rumour and unprovabled and the Director of Public Prosecutions agreed or, partly quoting Devlin, that Manningham-Buller's abuse of process was allowing suspicion to remain. Fourth is her reliance on gossip unfavourable to Adams or Lord Goddard to create prejudice and finally is Cullen's eagerness to embrace fantastic conspiracy theories such as Manningham-Buller deloberately sabotaging the prosecution of Adams, when the incompetence of the police and prosecuting counsel are adequate explanations.

It is always dangerous to rely on a single source, but relying on one so obviously partial as Cullen robs much of what you wrote of credibility.

Turning to Lord Devlin, the subject of that article is Devlin's life and work. The subject of the Adams trial is relevant to this, his decision to grant Adams bail and Lord Goddard's telephone call are also relevant. However, the opening words of the section you introduce "Unknown to Devlin..." show its irrelevance to Devlin, as his decision could not have been affected by what he did not know anything about. The passage is very much in Cullen's style of insinuation, and presumably we are to infer that Gwynne asked Goddard to intervene, for which there is no evidence.

The passage might have some relevance in the article on Lord Goddard, although your interest in the Talk section of that article on Lord Goddard's sexual practices might suggest some confusion on your part as to relevance. It is probably less relevant in John Bodkin Adams, and a lot of Cullen's comments, which she herself admits are gossip could well be trimmed. I am deleting the passage from the Devlin article a second time for good cause, and suggest that you leave it that way.

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