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    September 15

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text

    Bonny olot olem (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    Article: Olot Bonny Olem also known as Lot Awitong Please let me how to cite and how to undo a failed cite — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olotbonny (talkcontribs) 00:59, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

     Done, Olotbonny. You had added <ref name=undefined /> at the start of the page. There are many other problems with citations on that page, however. DES (talk) 01:22, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Help with minor aesthetic change on a navbox template

    Could somebody who's more knowledgeable make it so this navbox template lines the V*T*E up with this one? (it should be more inward, as it looks better on the player articles.)

    EDIT: Actually, this template should look like this one, if possible. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 01:52, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Use of wikipedia information for commercial use

    Hi I want to use wikipedia information for commercial use. Actually the use is were my android app request information of artist wiki and there image using wiki media api request, can I use the information by the wiki common attribution license. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinodatmob (talkcontribs) 07:33, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Probably yes. All of the text in Wikipedia is reusable for any purpose, including commercial, as long as it is properly attributed. Most images and media are likewise reusable, but not all, so you would need to look at the individual items to see if they were. Please see WP:REUSE for the details. --ColinFine (talk) 10:20, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm looking for a way to assess 'related changes' for a higher-level category while including all sub-categories. E.g., Category:Prehistoric_mammals has a boatload of sub-categories; I'd really like to be able to check a related changes list of all prehistoric mammals articles without setting up 50+ links to sub- and sub-sub-categories. Is that possible if the articles don't share the same high-level category template in the actual text?-- Elmidae (talk) 08:19, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Google update

    Hi there,

    When typing in Arthritis Care in google and you get the result page

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=arthritis+care&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=e8_3VYeAMYeY7gb7jZiwCg

    the box on the right still cites our old CEO's name, despite this has been changed in the article. Could you please let us know how to change that summary?

    Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acweb (talkcontribs) 08:45, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    If the Wikipedia article Arthritis Care is out of date, please suggest changes, with references to reliable publised sources, on its talk page Talk:Arthritis Care. But I think you are saying that the Wikipedia article has been updated, and it is Google that has not picked up the change. If so, that is completely outside Wikipedia's hands. A standard message follows:
    Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines. - ColinFine (talk) 10:27, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    About Nudity in music videos

    Hello I saw a Music video of C.C Catch named Heaven and Hell, it had topless nudity Thanks Bye [details removed] Linkturner (nickname) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linkturner (talkcontribs) 09:59, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    And your question about editing Wikipedia, Linkturner, is ... ? --ColinFine (talk) 10:28, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Presumably it would be whether it's OK to include a link to such a video in a Wikipedia article (or perhaps a still shot from it). Since Wikipedia isn't censored for nudity, and especially since topless nudity is perfectly acceptable in much of the world, there should be no problem with that. StuRat (talk) 15:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I have removed your email address to protect your privacy. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:58, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    PDF book problem

    Getting the following problem when attempting to download PDF book I created

    Rendering failed Generation of the document file has failed.

    Status: Rendering process died with non zero code: 1

    Return to User:Firefly266/Books/Trigonometry and Calculus

    Using windows 10 and happens with latest version of Chrome and Opera

    Please advise --Firefly266 (talk) 11:53, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    You may get a quicker and better response at the technical section of the Village Pump...--ukexpat (talk) 12:48, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    But if you search the archives there, you will find that this is a well-known, but not yet fixed, bug. See eg. WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive_132#Reporting_two_bugs_with_PDF_renderer_and_Wiki_books, from last November. --ColinFine (talk) 14:05, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    correcting a wrong assessment of the entry about me

    Dear Wikipedia Editors

    I am seeking some support in defending my reputation online and entry about me "Tania Peitzker" that has been in Wikipedia since 2007 - without any issues whatsoever.

    I have just been unpleasantly surprised by another Wiki editor "Duffbeer..." something or other who seems determined to have my entry Tania Peitzker deleted. Note he also wrongly accused me of "attacking other editors" when I defended my entry. I did not do so in any way, shape or form.

    I have had the archive and librarians of the University of Queensland defend my reputation by resubmitting the source for the "Tania Peitzker Collection" of my papers, academic work and literary manuscripts this week.

    Furthermore, every single claim can be substantiated through the independent sources I have provided. The critic "Duffbeer" is not willing to recognise the media interviews done and published by independent, reliable sources - long established, mainstream press and publishing houses in the UK!

    Could you please review this as I feel unduly attacked and the editor trying to have my entry deleted is not properly recognising the independent neutral sources that have been provided. I am an acknowledged academic after all so I do appreciate how to document texts correctly and objectively.

    bio information

    Would you mind also adding these additional citations for all the claims made in the entry about me?

    • no less than 4 interviews in established mainstream media in 2014:

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent-business/county-news/simplicity-the-secret-to-getting-27659/

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent-business/county-news/ibutcher-to-raise-the-steaks-24647/

    http://www.specialityfoodmagazine.com/content/news/farm_shop_to_install_artificially_intelligent_bot

    http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/south-west/126379-/

    • on my writing as journo for Times Higher was cited by international study (quite a few actually) because of my contributions to the THE World Rankings of universities:

    The Italian CIMEA (NARIC-ENIC) welcomes the reforms, while recognising that the higher education system in Italy is faced with a challenge implementing such a radical transformation. Their system currently has limited diversification in qualifications, rigid curricula, a very high drop-out rate, high graduate unemployment and limited internationalisation. They are changing an elite to a mass higher education system; moving from a centralised system to financial, organisational and curricular autonomy of institutions (CIMEA, 2004). This makes the reform all the more needed. In relation to the new world ranking of universities, Ince and Peitzker (2004) note that ‘perhaps the most striking feature of the European top 50 is the invisibility of southern Europe… This is ominous for these countries’ prospects in the continent-wide knowledge economy of which European and national planners dream.’ Italy is clearly taking this challenge seriously in the hope that, quite apart from international rankings, their number of graduates and their employability will increase, and their graduates’ age will decrease. This would lead to a considerable rise in productivity and fall in unemployment among young adults (CIMEA, 2004).

    https://www.naric.org.uk/naric/documents/contributions/Comparative-Study-of-New-Bachelor-and-Masters-degrees-Germany-Italy-and-UK.pdf

    • plus other articles cited in African and Swiss journals that I wrote originally for the Times Higher Education Supplement (now THE)

    Thanks for your assistance,

    best wishes, Dr. Tania Peitzker — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tania Peitzker (talkcontribs) 14:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    • @Tania Peitzker: The issue raised is that your article may not meet the notability standards set by the Wikipedia community for academics. In addition your article reads like an autobiography which is strongly discouraged by Wikipedia guidelines. The issues are compounded by the fact that you edited an article about yourself in clear disregard for the conflict of interest guidelines. Since the article has been nominated for deletion there will now be a seven day period where other editors can voice their opinions on these matters. If the Wikipedia community decides that your article does not fit with the guidelines set for inclusion it will be deleted. If there is no consensus on the matter, of if the community decides to keep your article, it will stay. However, please do not edit the article about yourself. If you require a change please place {{request edit}} on the article's talk page followed by your request. Another, independent, editor will make the change for you. --Stabila711 (talk) 14:52, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I was entirely unaware of those conditions/preferences

    Hi Stabila

    Thanks for your speedy response which explains a lot of things. I first wrote the entry about myself in 2007 which went to review by the Wikipedia editors & was approved based on the independent sources. None of the editors advised me back then that entries written by the subject themselves were not encouraged or that it would be considered a conflict of interest.

    Since then I've been updating the entry over the years thinking I was doing the right thing by Wikipedia - a pity I did not know about these guidelines from the start. So thanks for informing me now.

    I do wish to request an edit by the Wikipedian editors in that case with the additional sources I have provided in my Help Request today. In terms of Notability/Academic Contribution/Cultural Contributions of Note, please see the entry itself which has long been documented/sourced:

    more bio information

    Broadcasting & reporting

    From 1989 to 1990 in Australia, she became known for the country's first regular radio show devoted to female composers of classical music from around the globe, "Why Not Women?". The monthly radio programme was broadcast live on the public radio station for classical music, 4MBS in Brisbane, Queensland, and was created in collaboration with the International League of Women Composers (ILWC) in New York, USA.[6]

    During this intensive period of community and volunteer work in broadcasting, Peitzker pioneered the establishment of the first Australian archive for the original recordings of contemporary compositions and historic classical music by women composers from around the world, most of which the American ILWC had sent to 4MBS in the 1980s and 1990s.

    She was also the initiator of a live, free public concert featuring the acclaimed Brisbane composers, Mary Mageau and Betty Beath, whose classical music was performed by local musicians in the auditorium of the State Library of Queensland. The concert took place through Peitzker getting sponsors, State Government patronage and organizing the performances by other volunteers, as an extension of her work as a community broadcaster at 4MBS, then based on a local university campus.[7]

    In the early 2000s, Peitzker was a regular correspondent for the London-based Times Higher Education Supplement, now THE, reporting on R&D and tertiary education issues from Berlin, Zurich and the United Nations' departments in Geneva. She also featured in a supplement of The Wall Street Journal Europe as a guest writer for Business Education, specifically MBAs offered in the EU compared with American Masters of Business courses.[8]

    Academic achievements and publications

    Peitzker was awarded a PhD in 2000 by the University of Potsdam for her Cultural Studies analysis of the twentieth-century Australian author, Dymphna Cusack.[9] The ebook publication of this doctoral work was released by kindle on Amazon in September 2015.[10]

    In 1998, her doctoral research won the inaugural "Australia Award" of the International Federation of University Women in Geneva, Switzerland. The IFUW prize and grant had been created especially to acknowledge Peitzker's first empirical study and poststructuralist analysis of the internationally known humanitarian Dymphna Cusack, who had been a widely respected public cultural figure throughout the Cold War in Europe.

    In 2012, Australia's largest independent publishing house Allen & Unwin created a national revival of Dymphna Cusack, whose work had been largely out of print for decades, making her a "forgotten author".[11] A year before, Cusack was included as one of only eleven authors to be given a brass plaque on the Sydney Writers' Walk of fame at Circular Quay.[12]

    Plays, poetry and writing

    In the field of drama, Peitzker wrote and directed Life with Marion (1990) which ran for two seasons ; one at the Metro Arts Theatre's dance studios and another at the University of Queensland's Cement Box Theatre. Life with Marion deals with ideas of love, religion, health and family. Peitzker later wrote Gargoyles dealing with themes of spirituality, gender, migration and ageing and the four act, epic drama written in verse, Crux, which is a metaphorical, mystical work set in an antipodean colony.

    A number of her poems were published in journals as well as recorded and performed by local multimedia artists then broadcast on radio. Some of her early work was inspired by the "Old Town" of Launceston, Tasmania where she lived for the summer of 1991, after she had been selected during national auditions in Sydney to be the inhouse playwright for the University of Tasmania's Theatre Faculty in Hobart.

    The University of Queensland Library has acquired and collected her published material as well as her unpublished manuscripts, including the poetry collection "Palinode - Poems from Brisbane and Nuremberg 1990 - 1995" and the novel Salamandra, or a Tale of a Last Survival, set in Geneva, Berlin, Brisbane and Cairns. These texts, recordings, manuscripts, academic papers and correspondence are held in the "Tania Peitzker Collection" in the Fryer Library's Australiana archives at the University of Queensland.[9]

    Peitzker began publishing her work on Kindle and Amazon in 2015.


    Thanks again for your prompt assistance and also for including the additional independent sources that are reliable (Bloomberg, Standard & Poors, 3 news enterprises and publishing houses, citations for articles written by me for the Times Higher Education Supplement, the THE World Ranking and other neutral sources).

    best wishes, Tania — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tania Peitzker (talkcontribs) 15:25, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    • @Tania Peitzker: I did not add those references to your page. Another editor did that. In addition, I initially misread your article and gave you the nobility standards for academics. For general guidelines on people see this instead. I believe you would fall under the "creative professionals" and/or "author" section. If the community does decide to keep your article it is going to have to be cleaned up a bit to remove information that is a tad promotional but that is still to be decided. If you have further edit requests you can use the article's talk page to request your edit. --Stabila711 (talk) 15:36, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    understood - here are further sources about me as a "Creative Professional" and "author"

    thank you for explaining this further. I would like to request further edits to add supporting evidence and neutral reliable sources about my notability as a "creative professional" and published "author":

    resources
    • Fryer Library is a university archive for Australian Special Collections. They paid me around $2 000 back in 1994 for my papers, academic work and playscripts that had been performed and broadcast, as well as the unpublished literary manuscripts. They have been collecting my papers and works since then - the librarians have entered the reference for the "Tania Peitzker Collection" independently of me this week.
    • I was a correspondent for prestigious international university newspaper https://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/ I wrote many articles and features for THES now called THE from Berlin, Zurich and Geneva. I interviewed Nobel Prize winners, Education Ministers, Vice Chancellors of unis but above all, innovative researchers about knowledge transfer issues and achievements ie. improving society through applying their knowledge to commerce and industry.
    • Many of these articles were then cited by other publications and higher ed organisations around the world, especially as I was a contributor to the highly regarded Times Higher World Ranking of universities. As one example see this article archived "Swiss to balance gender scales" (my article is half way down the page) http://www.readabstracts.com/Education/Equality-but-not-for-poor-Swiss-to-balance-gender-scales.html and another citation of my research here in the US www.math.utah.edu/~davar/ps-pdf-files/Ranking.pdf
    • I am consolidating all my unpublished work by publishing it on kindle, please see http://www.amazon.com/author/taniapeitzker Note I obtained the grade Magna cum Laude for my doctoral dissertation on Dymphna Cusack for which I won an international award in Geneva from the International Federation of University Women, the "Australia Award".

    Hope that helps the community make a fair decision, especially taking note of the fact that women writers, women journalists and women academics are culturally underrepresented in society because we do not have the same access to mainstream publishing & channels of recognition of our achievements and cultural contributions...

    best wishes, Tania Peitzker (talk) 16:15, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Tania Peitzker. This is not the right place for you to give detailed information about what should go in the article: the article's talk page Talk:Tania Peitzker is a better place for it: that's why I have collapsed the list. But please note that, however significant the items you mention may be in your career and the literary world, they are almost irrelevant for Wikipedia's determination of notability (in its special sense) which depends entirely on whether and how much other people, unconnected with you, have published about you. Since a Wikipedia article should be based almost 100% on what people unconnected with the subject have published about the subject, it follows that your publications, and collections of your papers, cannot figure in an article unless somebody else has written at some length about them. Citations of your works might contribute, if they are cited in a discussion of the work in question; but if they are merely being cited for content, then they won't. The question is not (in fact, is never) what you have published, but what people have published about you. --ColinFine (talk) 16:59, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Colin,

    Tried to reply to you directly but your talk function not working. So just briefly:

    I realise, both as an academic and a journalist, that neutral sources are independent of me. That is why I pointed out the media articles about me and my company in Artificial Intelligence, velmai.

    You cannot say these newspapers and online news platforms are then "connected" to me because I was simply the subject of their interviews and media coverage ie. it also evidence of my notability. I note that the national "Specialty Food Magazine" interview has not been included in the references though you have included the Southwest Insider Media article and the Kent Messenger interview which is countywide press. http://www.specialityfoodmagazine.com/content/news/farm_shop_to_install_artificially_intelligent_bot

    The same goes for the international sources: the Bloomberg and Standard & Poors reference and discussion of me as CEO of velmai - that is independent of me and you can't get more global, serious approval, recognition and discussion of being a Creative Professional of note than Bloomberg and S&P.

    I have asked 4MBS and the IFUW in Geneva - now named Graduate Women International - to independently of me confirm about the work I did for the radio station, the concert etc and also the Australia Award through the IFUW/GWI archives of international fellowships. They should be able to provide you with the citations requested.

    I have a work reference from 4MBS and documentation about the IFUW award is in the Fryer Library archive collection about me. Again, a university library only collects the papers of notable people... and that was decided independently of me.

    Thanks for your admirable work in editing the text - I appreciate the rigour shown by the Wikipedia editors!

    Tania Peitzker (talk) 17:16, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Tania: I haven't edited the article - in fact I haven't looked at it before now: I see that Theroadislong and TheRedPenOfDoom have both done so. I was commenting entirely on what you posted here on this page. Whether the magazines are "connected" to you is not the point: the point is that if they print an interview with you, then the content is not independent of you. Wikipedia requires an article (and especially an article about a living person) to be almost entirely based on what people unconnected with the subject have published about the subject; but if they are writing up an interview or a press release then it is not what they are saying about you, but what you are saying about you.
    Put bluntly, Wikipedia has almost no interest in what a person or an organisation says or wishes to have said about themselves. Unless it's uncontroversial factual data, then it should be from truly independent sources, or not in the article.
    That a university collects your papers obviously shows that they rate you as significant - as "notable" in the ordinary sense of the word. If some people have written articles, books or theses about you and those papers, then you are "notable" in Wikipedia's special sense, because those articles, books or theses can be used as the basis of a Wikipedia article about you. But if nobody has, then you are not, at present, "notable" in Wikipedia's sense.
    I'm afraid that not one of the references currently in the article is a substantial piece about you that isn't derived from an interview with you, and nor are the resources you mention above. I note in particular that asking bodies to confirm the work you have done is no help at all, because Wikipedia requires all references to be published in reliable places (so that, in principle, any reader any time can go and check that the source really supports what's in the article).
    Nobody is saying that you are not important or notable (in the ordinary sense of the word). But so far, you have produced nothing which establishes that you are notable in Wikipedia's special sense.
    As for editing my talk page: the "Talk" link in my signature should take you to my talk page, where you can add a new section at the bottom.
    Cheers. --ColinFine (talk) 23:19, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    On Carach Angren album This is no fairytale

    Hello, I'm trying to work on this page. I cited Metalhammer review. But wikipedia said there was a problem with date on allaccess? Also, I have been trying to put an album cover on this wiki page but to no avail. I got it from allmusic.com and cited the source. But I do not know the html to successfully put the album cover up. Also, I'm wondering if this page can be allowed to get out of drafts without being in danger of being deleted? Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mabdarke (talkcontribs) 16:19, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    • @Mabdarke: I fixed the ref and placed the image you uploaded into the infobox. For future reference, you had |accessdate = February 03 2015. I changed it to February 3, 2015 and it worked. Also, you have to add a fair-use rational to the image cover for it to be valid. Once you have everything set you can add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article and that will signal that the article is ready for review. --Stabila711 (talk) 16:30, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mabdarke (talkcontribs) 16:37, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm afraid I have removed the image from the draft again, Mabdarke and Stabila711. WP:NFCC says that non-free images may only be used in articles, not drafts. Once the drafts is accepted as an article (and provided that an adequate fair-use rationale is given) it can be added back in. --ColinFine (talk) 16:48, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    ok thanks. i sent it for review so if its approved, i will ask for help for putting back the picture for album cover. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mabdarke (talkcontribs) 16:53, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    When that point comes, Mabdarke, look at the article's history, and you will be able to find Stabila711's edit, and see what they did. --ColinFine (talk) 17:01, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text

    — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaviTipp (talkcontribs)

    Hello @DaviTipp:, you will need to provide us more information. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:23, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I guess this is about Forever the Sickest Kids. TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom has detected and fixed the referencing errors (I tried but failed). Maproom (talk) 20:59, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    How to count all pages within a category?

    Is there a special page where I can easily get the number (preferably with a list) of articles within a given category? The best I could think of is the category tree, but I am dealing with really huge categories and it's going to take way too long to count pages manually from the tree --Abbad (talk) 20:50, 15 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]

    The magic word {{PAGESINCATEGORY:categoryname}} where categoryname is the name of the category (without namespace indicator). For example:
    Category:Non-talk pages that are automatically signed has 5,725 pages.
    Trappist the monk (talk) 21:12, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    @Trappist the monk: I believe PAGESINCATEGORY only counts the pages in the category itself without "drilling" down to count pages in sub-categories? Ottawahitech (talk) 21:27, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia:CatScan provides a summary count for its results, article lists over several categories, can collect data within category trees, and can present the results in a few different formats. But for "huge" categories it'll need a while to perform such searches. GermanJoe (talk) 21:43, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, that also appears to work as a (partial) answer to my unanswered question above about trans-level 'related changes', although it requires clicking into each article's history individually to check what went on. Does CatScan also output list info on latest edits when all options are available?-- Elmidae (talk) 05:47, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    @Elmidae: CatScan has an option to output only the pages that have changed since a certain date. So if you ran it once a day/week/whatever on your large category, you'd get a much smaller list of pages to check. The option is labelled "Last edit". -- John of Reading (talk) 06:30, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Yup. saw that, thanks. And it certainly is a useful method already. I was just wondering whether some additional info about that last edit could be made to pop up in the list view, such as to be able to exclude the obvious uncontroversial edits from further investigation (as one does when checking recent/related changes). But I suppose not, acc. to the documentation. Good enough :) -- Elmidae (talk) 09:22, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    "Institute for the Future" page deleted unceremoniously with no obvious avenue of petition

    The "Institute for the Future" page was deleted on June 22, 2015 by AnomieBOT |||, due to some kind of redirect auto-deletion mechanism that doesn't seem to make sense in the given context. The Institute for the Future is a well-known public institution that's been around for almost fifty years in Palo Alto, CA, with a global reach and many published and publicly cited works. Several of its prominent founders and employees have their own pages that have not been deleted (see the entries for "Roy Amara", "David Pescovitz", and "Olaf Helmer".) The mechanism for identifying the bot's actions as incorrect does not itself seem to be working, and redirects to a blank page. I cannot figure out how to petition this deletion in any of the provided ways, but this bot seems to be aggressively and erroneously acting on its own behalf. Could someone please help/advise? If you can uncover the deleted Institute for the Future page, you may determine that its content needs to be updated or expanded, but it certainly meets the formal criteria for inclusion.

    Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Decals42 (talkcontribs) 21:25, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The deletion logs show the page was deleted by User:Kudpung, seven days after another editor tagged the article as having no secondary sources. AnomieBOT just fixed some links afterwards. (BTW, bots cannot delete pages.) To contest the deletion, you can appeal it at Wikipedia:Deletion review. But given lack of sourcing in the article's history, I don't give it much chance. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 21:39, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec)
    The page wasn't deleted by AnomieBOT. See the history here. The page was proposed for deletion by someone and then deleted by User:Kudpung on June 21, 2015 at least seven days after being listed as such. The deletion note states "no evidence of notability given; no non-primary references since creation nine years ago". AnomieBOT III flagged the redirects to this page at [1] and then deleted IFTF and Institute for the future on June 22 as they were not then pointing to anything. As per Kudpung's deletion note, no-one had added any reliable third-party sources to the article in a number of years and no-one protested the deletion proposal in a week. Nanonic (talk) 21:42, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually since this was deleted via the WP:PROD mechanism, it can be appealed at WP:REFUND, a faster and lighter-weight process than Wikipedia:Deletion review (aka DRV). Of course, any editor could then nominate it for deleted through Articles for Deletion, perhaps on the grounds of failure to demonstrate notability. If it should be restored, i would advise finding and adding secondary sources promptly. Indeed it might be a good idea to find some and list them in the application for restoration at WP:REFUND. @Decals42, Nanonic, and Edokter: I hope that helps. DES (talk) 22:12, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh and it is possible, although rare, for bots operated by admins to delete pages, if they are approved to do so. I am not sure if any are so approved at the moment. One bot at least (HasturBot) applies speedy deletion tags that admins routinely approve, although not always. DES (talk) 22:15, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    September 16

    video

    I would like to know that which format does the video upload in wikipedia supports. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anish057 (talkcontribs) 01:17, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Being prompted to complete a captcha - but no text provided to attempt a response to

    Attempting to correct an early paragraph (thus editing the complete article) of the IBM article, there is a catcha prompt when I attempt to save edit but no text is provided - only blank space. 50.136.247.190 (talk) 04:42, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    list of category page articles

    hi, does anyone know how i can put together just the pages of a category but not the articles that they link to? for example https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:English_male_singers&from=0 has 1343 pages of english male singers from a-z, i just want a list of those names but not the articles. it only shows 200 artists per page, and copy pasting each page from a-z would take really long. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:E007:715E:1:BCBD:BFE7:564D:3A6E (talk) 05:34, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Howdy. Just having wised up to this tool myself - you can use CatScan for this. Here's a link with a completed run for your query: [[2]]. Scroll down to see the list. If you chose a "Format" option of CSV (lowest option on the interface), you get a comma-delineated document that you could just open with Excel or similar, then copy out the first column, and there's your name list. Cheers. -- Elmidae (talk) 11:40, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Troll Dolls

    I just looked up Troll Dolls and surprisingly, there is a picture of a Russ troll doll. The information is all about Thomas Dam, the Danish inventor on troll dolls in the late 50s and 60. Russ trolls did not come out until the 1980s. Please change the picture to an actual DAM troll doll. Thank you--2602:306:3AEE:1870:F062:9970:2CBB:28C9 (talk) 06:07, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The article is about troll dolls generally, not just the ones invented by Dam. Nevertheless, I feel that a picture of one of the Dam dolls that I remember from the 1960s would be more appropriate, so I searched on Wikimedia Commons for one to use. I found nothing suitable, though I did find hundreds of images of pages of journals, mostly in Romanian. Maybe someone with a better understanding of Commons search function can help. Maproom (talk) 08:37, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I doubt such photos would be permitted on Commons, as they surely are derivative works of copyrighted works. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:35, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no key

    Quote marks parsed - I've just had trouble with this in a section I've edited at Hamilton, New Zealand. I copied it from my Sandbox, but somehow some of the quote marks became curly on the way. What mistake did I make in copying from my sandbox?Johnragla (talk) 11:03, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Reference help requested.

    Hi, could someone help fix an issue raised by BracketBot at Scottish Labour leadership election, 2014? It's apparently from this edit, but I can't see what is actually wrong, and fix doesn't highlight the issue. It would be very helpful if BracketBot picked out the errors in the same way as DPL Bot does. Thanks in advance, This is Paul (talk) 11:12, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    You had named a ref "BBC-News-2014-11-01" and invoked a second use as "BBC-News-2014-11-07". Since the article is dated the 7th, I changed the 01 one to 07. Deor (talk) 11:33, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks again, This is Paul (talk) 11:37, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    spam

    hey sir i need help a article Khayal Abbas AkhTar been attacked (several times) with vandalism in past and now..... Sir, this person being a controversial personality in his country. His article has been attacked (several times) with vandalism in past. You, being an experienced wikipedian, suggest either to remove it from wikipedia (to avoid expected vandalism in future) or anything else? user:imabbas —Preceding undated comment added 11:16, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Article deleted per WP:CSD#A7.--ukexpat (talk) 13:08, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    cholanomics

    I had submitted an article under the above caption and I was advised that the same is being deleted as personal. I have contested your view as there is nothing personal and such jargons are generally used by economists. I would appreciate your final decision in this regard.Hope you would revoke your call and include the subject matter in your esteemed and reputed encyclopedia.Thanks in anticipation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mavoor ram sankar (talkcontribs) 14:48, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Mavoor ram sankar, When the article says X "is referred here as" Y, it is pretty clearly Original research. That might well be proper in an original paper in an economics journal, or even in a popular magazine article. It isn't proper on Wikipedia. Wikipedia summarizes what others have already published in Reliable Sources. Until multiple independent reliable sources that use or refer to the term "cholanomics" can be cited, we can't have an article about it. See the 'golden rule' of article creation. DES (talk) 17:08, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Sources

    I just added a source, but don't know how to remove the tag that makes the article get deleted after 7 days. The article is Nick28t — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearcub07122001 (talkcontribs) 16:06, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The source you added, Bearcub07122001, at famousbirthdays.com is not IMO particularly reliable. But the article was deleted for "A7: No credible indication of importance" by Acroterion. You could ask that admin to reconsider, or ask at WP:REFUND. But honestly, I would have accepted an A7 deletion for that version of the article. If you want to start over, I urge that you use the article wizard and follow through with the articles for creation process. But first please review the golden rule for new articles and Your first article. If the subject doesn't pass the criteria listed there, don't waste your time and that of others trying to create an article about a non-notable topic with no chance of survival. DES (talk) 16:47, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Calvin Love page

    The musician Calvin Love can not make a page. Someone has the username Calvin Love and has never published the page. How can he create a page or contact the user to post his page with editing capabilities so that new content can be added? Thank you for your help in advance.Calvin love music (talk) 20:38, 16 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvin love music (talkcontribs) 20:36, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    @Calvin love music: just to be clear, there are "user names" and "article pages". Are you asking about creating an account with a "user name" that someone has previously registered? If so, please see WP:USURP for the process to see if the situation is such that you can take over that user name. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:41, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    It looks like the person who registered the account User:Calvin Love made one edit not too many years ago. [3] That probably disqualifies it from WP:USURP and you will need to use a different name for your account, but you can ask. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:44, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The musician Calvin Love can not make a page. Someone has used the username Calvin Love and has not posted the page so that it can be edited to provide new information. How does he contact the user who created his page or get it published?Calvin love music (talk) 20:45, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    @Calvin love music: you keep using the word "publishing" so it seems that you are actually talking about an article about a musician named Calvin Love? if that is the case, see WP:AUTOBIO and WP:COI. After reading those policies, if Calvin Love meets the requirements for a stand alone article, then you can make a request via the request an article process.
    (And note that you do not need to start a new section every time you reply, just click the "edit" in the existing section header name)-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:51, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, that is correct. He would like an article. Or if he was googled his name Calvin Love would come up in Wikipedia. He qualifies for the requirements. thank you for your suggestionsCalvin love music (talk) 21:07, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    As previously advised. please make a request at WP:Requested articles.--ukexpat (talk) 12:49, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    heterocyclic amine compounds formed in meat

    In looking up heterocyclic compounds the 'talk' section appears to be no more than a blog - and an uninteresting blog at that. Is blogging becoming common, now, instead of professional/intelligent arguments in regard to the article? It is super-annoying. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.19.177.119 (talk) 20:48, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Heterocyclic amine formation in meat (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    The talk page is weird, I have never seen one like that before. There are also some odd things about the article. It starts "Heterocyclic amines are a group of 20 chemical compounds formed during cooking", which is false, some heterocyclic amines (such as tryptophan) occur in almost all living things, no cooking involved. Then it makes no attempt to show the structures of these 20 compounds, and only even names four of them. Most of its references are research papers, rather than secondary sources as recommended for medical subjects. Maproom (talk) 22:40, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict)Thank you for spotting this. I have archived the old, largely inappropriate talk page comments, and added a header describing the proper contents of a talk page going forward. Note that all of the comments on Talk:Heterocyclic amine formation in meat were more than 3 years old. A few of them were once useful suggestions on how to improve the article. DES (talk) 22:43, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Maproom. I have seen a few, but not many, talk pages more or less like that. Most often on older low-traffic pages. DES (talk) 22:45, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Help with creating a page for a living person

    sorry for asking this question here but having hard time finding specific step by step info on how to create a page for a living person.

    any and all help greatly appreciated — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8Writer8 (talkcontribs) 23:38, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    8Writer8, in my view, the fist step should be to read Your First Article and the golden rule of article essentials. Then consider whether you can find several independent reliable sources that discuss the subject in some detail. If you can, make use of the article wizard to start the process of drafting, and when you think it is complete, with all significant information cited to reliable sources, submit it for review. (If you can't find such sources, don't waste your time or the time of other editors.) DES (talk) 00:18, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    September 17

    Special:SuffixIndex

    Is there a special page that lists pages ending with a certain phrase, comparable to Special:PrefixIndex except working at the other end of the word? Or is there a way to search with wildcards? Eight years ago, someone asked for a Special:SuffixIndex page at Wikipedia talk:Special:PrefixIndex, but I don't know if anything's been done since then, while searching with asterisks as wildcards (a technique used by many search programs) is useless; for example, Special:Search/***ganj returns results for pages with the freestanding word "ganj" but doesn't find seven-letter words ending in "ganj", so I can't find Raiganj through this method. Nyttend (talk) 01:08, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    @Nyttend: There's no quick way to do this. In theory the Article title search should do it - enter ganj$ in the "pattern" box, or [Gg]anj$ if you want to search for uppercase "G" as well. But this tool didn't work for me; the connection timed out before any results came back. I could run searches for you using my latest database dump if you drop a note on my talk page. Each one will take about 15 minutes on my hardware. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:36, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the confirmation. There's nothing pressing; I was just trying to find Raiganj for a crossword-type puzzle. Nyttend (talk) 10:18, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Image License Purchased

    I added a photo to a Wikipedia page which was taken down. We have now purchased the Getty license for this image. Please advise on the steps needed to reload this image to the page properly.

    The usage rights on the purchased license reads: For use in editorial print and digital media including:

    • Newspapers, magazines, books, newsletters
    • Blogs, websites, videos
    • Broadcasts and documentaries
    • Social media sites
    • Mobile apps
    • Software applications

    Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cterry216 (talkcontribs) 01:25, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Cterry216, to be acceptable here, the licence needs to allow distribution, modification and use for any purpose, including commercial. Does you licence permit all of these? We have now purchased—who is we? If you have a conflict of interest when editing an article, you must declare it. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:53, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Azimo vs Asimo

    Hi there,

    Excuse the random message, i am trying to get some clarity on something.

    I work at Azimo (http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/15/money-transfer-startup-azimo-raises-20m-at-a-100m-valuation) and we used to have a WikiPedia page, but it seems it was taken down a year ago. (I am new here so just trying to work out what happened)

    Apparently, the rumours are that it was flagged and removed because it was similar to 'Asimo' the cool Honda robot dude. Though the words are similar, the spelling is different and contrary to rumours we don't intend to start building robots.

    To be honest, i am not sure why our page was removed so any clues / indicators to that mystery would really welcome.

    Thanks

    Scott — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottWilliams100 (talkcontribs) 09:01, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The discussion on the deletion of the previous article on Azimo can be seen at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Azimo. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:41, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    And to understand that discussion, ScottWilliams100, please read the articles linked to in the discussion. It might help to realise that no organisation (and no person) in the world 'has' a Wikipedia article: Wikipedia has articles on many organisations and people, but those organisations and people have no control whatever over the articles about them, and are strongly discouraged from editing the articles about them. Wikipedia is not interested in what somebody says or wants to say about themselves: it is only interested in what others say about them. --ColinFine (talk) 16:23, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Concers about wrong and biased information written on the page that referes to me

    I am writting this email to express my concers about biased information and mistakes that are mentioned on the page that is refering to me Apostolos Tzitzikostas :

    1st. My Biografy contains only a fraction of the information regarding myself. The full text of biografy can be foumd at the following links : [1] and [2]

    2nd.

    On the same page, under my photo at "Political Party" it is inaccurate that i was formerly a member of New Democracy Party because i have never left the party. I was and still am a member of the New Democracy party [3]

    3rd.

    I never personally invided Golden Dawn party representatives to the annual 28th October Ohi Day parade. It was a specific direction of the Ministry of Interior Affairs that ordered the Regional Authorities to invite every memeber of the Greek Parliament to the annual 28th October Ohi Day parade. I want to express my deep concern that this fact is omitted, giving a false and biased idea over the facts at that period. [4]

    Thank you for interest.

    At your disposal.

    Apostolos Tzitzikostas — Preceding unsigned comment added by TZ2k0s (talkcontribs) 09:24, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    I appreciate your request here, thank you. I have the following comments/suggestions.
    • Please read the Article Subject FAQ article, that is a place to start.
    • I suggest adding your comments to the talk page for the article Talk:Apostolos Tzitzikostas , that is the best place to start.
    • I'd also comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Greece, they would have people who would know more than I, and while not guaranteed to know Greek, they (or just about anyone) would know more than I.
    • I appreciate that you've tried fixing some of it yourself, but each of the edits is problematic, as a CV is not a good source and the link on the victory percentage needs some work (certain characters need to be handled specially.
    • I'll add this to your talk page as well.

    Naraht (talk) 14:29, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

    '[' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.209.252.96 (talk) 10:40, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The error message on 9×19mm Parabellum said "Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page)." If that wasn't clear enough, the words help page are in blue, indicating that they are a wikilink, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref. Another editor has corrected it for you. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:03, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Referencing errors on Petra Cetkovská

    Reference help requested. I cited Petra Cetkovska's page correctly. Thanks, Bryson483 (talk) 11:46, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The errors which are flagged up on Petra Cetkovská are because of your edit which removed the use of 3 references which the page is now correctly reporting as defined but not used. The error messages include the words "help page" in blue, indicating that they are wikilinks, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error references missing key. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:58, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Is it OK to use such links, like

    • "[[STRFKR|Girls Just Want to Have Fun]]"
    • "[[High Highs|Open Season]]"
    • "[[Air Traffic Controller|Ready or Not]]"

    in an infobox in Pilot (Faking It)...? --CiaPan (talk) 13:14, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I would think that would violate WP:EGG, though possibly not if there aren't more clear links...and also, that's a guideline, not a policy. That being said, that last link in particular doesn't seem to make any sense, though I'm unfamiliar with the subject matter. DonIago (talk) 13:59, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]


    A link to the artist of a song could be reasonable, in my opinion, if there is no specific article on the song, especially if the article on the artist discusses that song. What you really want to determine is solely: "is this link useful if someone clicks it?" If it's not useful then unlink it, if it's useful then leave it. RJFJR (talk) 14:34, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Fixed [4]. --CiaPan (talk) 18:32, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    mission imppsible

    [1]110.172.146.2 (talk) 14:52, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    1. ^
      1. REDIRECT Target page name
    Do you want Mission imppsible to be redirected to Mission Impossible? What do you want? how can we know? Supdiop (Talk ©) 15:08, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    You've fixed it yourself [5], next time, clearly say what you want or add links to the pages. Thanks Supdiop (Talk ©) 15:16, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

    — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.31.88.107 (talk) 15:56, 17 September 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

    The error message in Alberto Santos-Dumont says "Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page)." and includes a wikilink to Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref. What is unclear about that? - David Biddulph (talk) 15:14, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    edits in red

    Hi I made an edit and it appears in red. Please explain. Thanks. Palisades1 15:40, 17 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palisades1 (talkcontribs)

    Your edit to Loudoun County Commuter Bus appears in red because you put the new text between double square brackets ([[...]]), which is wiki code for a wikilink, but there isn't a Wikipedia page of that name. I see also that you had marked the edit as minor, but it doesn't meet the requirements of WP:minor. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:55, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Spartansburg, Pennsylvania article

    I am trying to add a link to a non-commercial, non for profit historical information website to the information provided for Spartansburg, Pennsylvania. I am the owner and author of the website (http://spartansburghistory.org) and would like to provide that link as information for those reading the article. How can I get the link to be accepted?

    ThanksSpartansburghistory (talk) 17:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    You shouldn't try, as you have an obvious confliuct of interest. You could post it on the article talk page and see if others feel it meets the criteria at WP:ELYES. And you should change your user name promptly. It violates the username policy, and would be grounds for a block as things stood. A Username must not be the name of a business, group, or organization. DES (talk) 18:50, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Turn off beta

    How do I turn off the new beta features? Every time I open a mobile wiki page now it crashes chrome on iOS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.173.0.21 (talk) 18:06, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    As far as I can tell, IP accounts can't do that. If you create an account, then you can turn beta features on or off in your preferences. RudolfRed (talk) 00:21, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Deletion of a new add at the page of FNDC5

    I edit the paragraph "function" at FNDC5 page. I also added the reference to this new add. Why my sentences have been removed few minutes ago? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.133.31.143 (talk) 18:06, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The edit summary left by Smartse says, "rm WP:PRIMARY research which also likely has WP:SELFCITE problems based on the location of the IP".
    In other words, the information you added to the article was added from primary sources, whereas Wikipedia (oddly for people in some academic positions, and for people with COIs) requires that articles be written using mostly secondary sources. Also, the content you added was sourced to a study conducted by researchers at the university you are editing from, which means you are likely citing your own research, which is a problem.
    That said, perhaps @Smartse: would like to come and expand further on why you were reverted.~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:18, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Though I have not seen the study itself, only the abstract, the fact that one of the sentences is a word-for-word copy of the press release about it found here ("According to the study authors, identifying..."), inevitably makes me suspicious there is more copying (copyright infringement) in the added text. Understand that any content added here must be written in your own words, with the exception of limited quotations from copyrighted material (allowed as fair use if done properly). To meet our standards, any such quotations must be identified as such using quote marks, and must be cited using an inline citation to the source, usually accompanied by in-text attribution. This observation is separate and apart from any others reasons for the reversion of the edit.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:24, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Warning Messages at Top of Wiki Page

    Hi there,

    I am seeing two 'warning' messages on a French Wikipedia page I recently created: fr:Exportation et développement Canada

    All the sources used are the same as the English page (Export Development Canada), and the formatting looks OK to me.

    Is there any way to get ride of these messages at the top of the page?

    Thank you. -Leslie — Preceding unsigned comment added by ElleJay613 (talkcontribs) 19:45, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    • @ElleJay613: Much like the English Wikipedia, those notices are placed (and removed) by hand. My French is a little rusty but it looks like the tags are for references and text formatting. If you believe you have fixed the problems you can remove the tags by deleting {{À sourcer|date=septembre 2015}} and {{À wikifier|date=septembre 2015}} from the code. In addition, you can ask questions at the French version of the the help desk if you are unsure. --Stabila711 (talk) 19:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    You should be aware that different language-versions of Wikipedia have different rules about notability, original research, and probably other things. en:WP is tougher than most, but in at least some things, fr:WP is tougher still. Maproom (talk) 21:49, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Wiki data via an API

    Hello,

    Can I somehow integrate and use Wikipedia data via an API?

    Thanks

    Jasonrick (talk) 21:03, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Does this help?--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:39, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Merging an article

    I have been working on the forensic anthropology article for about a month now hopefully getting it up to a GA level. During my rewrite of the article I looked at the forensic archaeology page and decided that it would be better served if the two were merged together since forensic archaeology is a subfield of forensic anthropology and I felt like the overlap between the two qualified it for a merge. Anyways, I wrote the subsection of the anthropology article myself. I did not copy any information that was already written on the archaeology article. Looking through the forensic archaeology article the entire thing is basically unsourced and a lot of it is already reproduced in my own words in the anthropology subsection.

    So my question is, if I don't actually copy any information from an article during a merge do I still leave the merge redirect message (#REDIRECT {{R from merge}}) or do I just leave a redirect? In addition, do I still have to leave an edit summary regarding the merge? The merge itself has been uncontested so I was going to perform it boldly but I wanted to make sure I was doing it correctly. Thanks! --Stabila711 (talk) 21:36, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Great job in updating that page. Trying not to be too tautological, a merge is an actual merge – if you didn't merge content from forensic archaeology into it, then no "merge" took place whatever. Rather, you've created an entirely separately section in one article that also is the subject of a stand-alone article. Referring to that as a merge would be actively confusing. So, if you redirect the other to the one you've been working on, it would not take R from merge and there would be no copyright attribution edit summary since no merge occurred. If someone ever revives the article at the redirect and writes a more expansive sourced version of that topic, then you might include at the section in forensic anthropology on it, {{main}}. For clarity's sake, before you redirect the other, I would remove the merge tag there and say something in the edit summary like, "I rewrote the [[forensic anthropology]] and included a section on this topic, but merged no content from here in doing so". Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:40, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Got it. Thanks! --Stabila711 (talk) 00:30, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    September 18

    Adding my name to an article

    Hello, I'm the artist who created the CDC's Zombie apocalypse graphic novel called "Preparedness 101: Zombie Pandemic. I noticed in the following article about zombies in government media, that my name and my fellow artists were not mentioned. If possible, I'd like to have our names included.

    The article is: Zombie#Zombie apocalypse

    Illustrated by Bob Hobbs, Colored by Alissa Eckert and Lettered by Mark Conner.

    Proof of my claim can be found in this excerpt from another Wikepedia article:

    "In October 2011, the CDC published a Zombie Pandemic graphic novella created by fantasy artist Bob Hobbs (layouts, pencils and inks), Alissa Eckert (coloring) and Mark Conner (lettering, assembly). [13]"

    Thanks, Bob Hobbs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:33D0:33E0:2DB0:884D:3841:FF22 (talk) 00:58, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Please put the accent over the word "nee" in the marriage section of this article. Thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbernadette (talkcontribs) 01:05, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    This seems to be a repeated question from one or a few editors working on a few articles. See July 1, July 11, Aug 11, Aug 16, Aug 18, Aug 29, Sep 7, among others. It would be handy if editors, having asked the question, could remember the answers please (or look them up in the archives). - David Biddulph (talk) 09:42, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Dhudhi

    Article information

    Dhudhi Rajput are a tribe of Parmar PanwarRajput origin, found in the Punjab Pakistan province of Pakistan. According to the 1931 census of India they had a population of 5,800. The Dhudhi have traditions of migration from Malwa in Central India. Dhudhi, the ancestor of the tribe was said to be a kinsman of Parmar ruler Raja Bhoj of Ujjain, and said to have migrated with his family to Punjab, and conversion to Islam is said to have occurred at hands of the Sufi Bahaudin Zakaria..

    History

    Lt. Col. J.M. Wikeley Second Edition The Book House, Sir Denzil Ibbetson, Sir Edward Maclagan and H. A. Rose write in their book A Glossary of The Tribes and Castes of The Punjab and North-West Frontier Province Vol.-III (First Ed. 1911, Re-published by Aziz Publishers, Lahore, Pakistan in 1978 ) that Dhudhi areParmarRajput found along the banks of the Sutlej and Chenab. They are supposed to have come originally from Multan. They are said to be "fair agriculturists and respectable members of society". The original seat of the Dhudhi tribe was Mailsi in Vehari District, where they are mentioned as early as the first half of the 14th Century. When the Delhi Sultanate was breaking up they spread along the Sutlej and Chenab. One of them, Haji Sher Mohammadwas a saint whose shrine is in Multan Division in District Burewala Mouza Dewan Sahibis still renowned. Famous Muslim saint Shah Hussainrenowned as Madhu Lal Hussainalso belongs to this clan. Dhudhis are usually Muslims.

    This ‎(‎ڈهڈی‎)tribe is now found in

    Faisalabad, Kasur, ,Okara,Sheikhupura, Nankana Sahib,Rajanpur, Lodhran, Khanewal, Toba Tek Singh,Chakwal,Gujrat, Sialkot, Sargodha, Jhang, Multan, Sahiwal,pakpattan, Jhelum, Vehari, Khanewal District Kabirwala,Bahawalpur and the Bahawalnagar districts.

    Dhudhi Villages in North Punjab

    Starting with Gujrat District, they are found in the village of Ghansia, in neighbouring Jhelum District, their villages include Saeela, Dhok Sir, Lota, Dhok Masyal, Dhok Munawar and Dhok Dheri in Dina Tehsil and Toba, Golpur, Karyala Jalap (which they share with the Jalap tribe) and Dhudhi Thal in Pind Dadan Khan Tehsil. While in Chakwal District, they are found in the village of Khokhar Zer.

    Moving south towards Sargodha

    They are found in Dhudhi in Sahiwal Tehsil and Dhudhian in Kot Momin Tehsil.

    North of Sargodha

    In Mandi Bahauddin District, they are found in Bhagat and Kadher.

    In Faisalbad District

    Chak No 214/Rb Dhudhi Wala,Faisalabad

    In Bhakkar District

    Important Dhudhi villages include Chak 56/DB ,Chak 72/ML, Jandanwala Kalur Koot and Karloowala.they are also found in Basti Cheena and Basti Dhudianwala.

    In Khushab District

    Khushab city, Jauharabad, Quaidabad,Noor Pur Thal And also in Ukhli mohla, Rahdari Pillow and Waince.

    In Mianwali District

    Kundian.Mianwali city

    Dhudhi villages in South Punjab

    Starting with Jhang District in south Punjab, Dhudhi villages include Boori Dhudhian, Dhudhiwala, Kapoori near Gharmor and Darbar Bahu Sultan.

    In the Pakpattan district Dhudhi villages include Chak14/SP, Chak 27/SP,and Bateenga.

    There are two villages in Hafizabad District

    Sukheke Mandi and Dubber.

    In Lodhran District

    They are found in Chah Maniwala near Dunyapur..

    — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.39.187.203 (talk) 03:15, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

    logo uploading

    Hi, I would like to upload a logo for an organization page I just edited. Could you help me? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vulejijo (talkcontribs) 03:24, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    2 things I have stuffed up - sorry! ref,. number 71 0n the above page and please also place an accent over the word "nee" - in the section titled: Olive Middleton nee Lupton Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbernadette (talkcontribs) 11:30, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    For the accent on the "nee", see your question #Thomas Fairfax (Gilling) and answer above. For your ref problem, the error message has the word "help" in blue; this is a wikilink to a clear explanation of your error. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:47, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    how to get a link to a past article version

    Click to see image for more details

    Regarding my recent Audiopedia question.

    ....they would need to provide a link to the original page history, or the original Wikipedia page, which itself has a link to the history. A permalink to the version they used would be preferable....DES (talk) 18:26, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

    How could a link to the original page history, or the original Wikipedia page or a permalink to the version used, be provided?

    I can only find providing the link to the current article, which contains a tab for the article history.

    If someone reuses a page from the past, example the article version from June 1 2015, how can a link to the June 1 2015 page be provided? I see articles have version #s in the history-compare differences, but the history tab list does not give the link,

    Thank you, CuriousMind01 (talk) 11:52, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

    Just click the 'History' tab to open the article's revisions history — for example, this is a history of this page:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=history
    then find appropriate version, for example, a revision from today, 18 September 2015‎ — and the hour-and-date of a revision is a hyperlink to that revision:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&oldid=681626935
    Just right-click it and choose 'Copy a link' or whatever it is called in your browser; or click it to open in a new view, then copy the URL from the browser's address bar. --CiaPan (talk) 12:07, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Click the highlighted link to get to the permalink. Supdiop (T🔹C) 12:54, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    please help me - I have tried in vain to add an accent over "nee" in the Olive Middleton section of this page - but I just gets little dots underneath the word nee. I am WAY too scared to fix up ref. number 71 - I could lose EVERYTHING

    Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbernadette (talkcontribs) 12:30, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Did this change help? --CiaPan (talk) 12:48, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I have not used my email address at all as far as I know! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbernadette (talkcontribs) 12:50, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    @Srbernadette: How is your email related in any way? The Average Wikipedian (talk) 12:52, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I am having a bad evening! I get told the email message "do not provide your email address or any other contact details —especially your passwords when I try to do this" - I am trying to place as re. 75 on Lupton family page (beside number 74 ref.) It is a PDF: fretwell.kangaweb.com.au/pdfs/James%20Kitson%20Jnr.pdf

    But it will not take. can you help me and also I CANNOT work out how to get rid of the little lines under the word "nee" in the Olive Middleton section of the Lupton family pageSrbernadette (talk) 12:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Done. I replaced "née" by "née" in the section title. Maproom (talk) 13:04, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    The message in red regarding email addresses and passwords is a standard warning message (Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Help desk) when you try to edit the Help Desk. Nothing to worry. 106.51.241.98 (talk) 13:08, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    The dotted line under née is deliberate, and is there to indicate that there is a tooltip. The presence of the tooltip was mentioned in the reply to one of your earlier similar questions, at #Thomas Fairfax (Gilling) above. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:33, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]