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Listing published works

Hi, I am keen to complete the list of published work on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dale_Spender&editintro=Template%3ABLP_editintro#Publications

It is incomplete (missing titles, missing or incorrect publisher names, missing author role, i.e., some titles the person is the editor or co-editor, not sole author). Is this acceptable, if I follow the format?

Many thanks for your help. --Always Think First (talk) 11:35, 20 June 2021 (UTC) Always Think First (talk) 11:35, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

I don't fully understand. (Follow what format?) Anyway, yes, the list seems worthwhile; and yes, the list could and I think should be improved. I'd not heard of Spender; but in my guesstimation her books would be an important part of her noteworthiness. If so, then I'd suggest something like the article Morris Bishop, in which descriptions and reviews of the books are worked into the main text, and all the tiresome yet sometimes helpful publication details (ISBNs and the rest) go in a list similar to the one that's already in the Spender article. -- Hoary (talk) 13:06, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Hoary, appreciate you taking the time. Will read the article by Morris Bishop. Always Think First (talk) 12:56, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

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Sockpuppetry

Would it be considered sockpuppetry (or breaking any other rule) if I made test accounts like "autoconfirmed" and "extended confirmed" with the appropriate permissions? AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 13:17, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

You should probably be more concerned that that someone suspects you of socking right now, rather an some point in the future! ——Serial 13:26, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

What is that supposed to mean? AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 13:43, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

I suggest you ignore the lack of good faith demonstrated by an editor who should know better but chooses not to below. I'm sure you realise that with a username such as you have chosen, it is extremely likely that at some point an editor will wonder you knew of such a thing before creating your account here. Personally, I'm sure you have excellent reasons for doing so, and I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to suggest otherwise. But it is probably as well that you understand it may well arise in the future. HTH, ——Serial 14:58, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Ping. ——Serial 20:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: I realise that now. I read up on Wikipedia policies before joining and also landed on this page while doing so, and that was the username I chose. - AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 00:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

I suggest your ignore the comment as a 'drive-by' by an editor who may for other reasons be having a bad day, but from looking at past editing history, rarely shows up at Teahouse. However, a GOOD rule of thumb, is one person, one account. Even with one account, names that imply faux authority are a BAD idea. David notMD (talk) 14:37, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

There are sometimes legitimate reasons for having more than one account. My other account is Mjroots2 which I use when away from my own computer or on my mobile phone. This is to protect my main account, which holds administrative privileges. Having a second account means I never have to log in with my admin account where I'm not confident that the system is secure. Mjroots (talk) 17:15, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes. Having two accounts is not considered sockpuppetry if for entirely different uses, and never on same article. For example, an editor may have one for articles, and another as a Teahouse host or draft reviewer. David notMD (talk) 18:56, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

I also, technically speaking, have multiple accounts. They don't edit, and exist only to prevent impersonation. (The passwords for them are long and completely random "rolled my face on the keyboard" strings anyway that I couldn't memorise even had I wanted to get access to them.) The point is, you generally don't need multiple accounts unless you have a legitimate reason to make them; testing permissions is not a good reason, especially those two (which are granted at certain time+edit thresholds). —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 07:29, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

@Jéské Couriano: I believe than maintaining multiple accounts with various permission levels to test for how things work on the technical level would be valid. At the very minimum, I expect that bot maintainers that need test accounts to check for user groups would be allowed to set up some. WP:SOCKLEGIT is not an exhaustive list, and WP:TESTALT is very close to the case in question.

Of course, any such accounts would have lower or equal permissions to the main account, for obvious reasons, but EGW is ECP already, so it is hard to see what nefarious plot they could set in motion if they were allowed to have an autoconfirmed-only alt. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 12:15, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Tigraan: What could I even do worse with an autoconfirmed-only account? - AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 07:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Leemour Pelli article

 Courtesy link: Draft:Leemour Pelli

Hi, I'd love to get some feedback on this article. It was declined but I've edited on the Work section and I'd like to know if this meets the conditions for approval. Thank you!

[Leemour Pelli] Woodholder (talk) 13:41, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Woodholder, the "work" section reads more like an advertisement of the subject even now. Please see WP:NPOV and WP:WBA. Basically, the tone of the article needs to be neutral and dispassionate, not promotional. JavaHurricane 05:50, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Woodholder: I also took a quick look. I'd remove Artspace as a ref, as that appears to be user generated content. I also think it is a little too promotional, with quotes from art publication reviews. It needs to be more encyclopedic in style and tone. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:24, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Will there be a Wikipedia page for Battle for Dream Island?

Can someone make a page for BFDI and the object show genre? LaylaShyu (talk) 20:34, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, LaylaShyu, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. If the programme (I'm guessing it's a TV programme?) meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then anybody can create an article about it - including you (though creating a new article is an extremely difficult task for a new editor). If it does not meet those criteria, then nobody can create an acceptable article. If you wish there to be an article, you can make it more likely by finding the independent reliable sources that will be required to establish that it is notable. --ColinFine (talk) 21:05, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

hi @LaylaShyu! unfortunately Battle for Dream Island is currently salted, but that was a 2013 salt (back during the first season and way before it got popularity), and now it's a youtube show with a sizeable fanbase (which is surprisingly larger than I feel it is). despite this it's still non-notable by wikipedia's standards (searching for news sources leads to a nintendo life post that is a trivial reference, and one regarding the fandom fantasy truck which only mentions bfdi/yoylecake in alt text), so even if I wanted to make one as a draft, I can't. happy editing!   melecie   t 00:36, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

link with an error message

I just wanted to make sure, a link with an error message can be removed and replaced with a link that does not have an error message, correct? 73.167.238.120 (talk) 03:55, 24 June 2021 (UTC) 

Do you mean an error message on the other end of the link (yes - source is likely dead) or a bright red error notice in the reference list (no - the reference itself is malformed)? —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 06:02, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

There was a message to not remove archive links so the messsage is incorrect? If I understand what you mean, yes once the link is clicked on, there is an error message. The link has to be tweaked but the source is the same. I just wanted to find out what the protocol was. Thanks! 73.167.238.120 (talk) 11:38, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

What languages don't we have?

What languages don't we have and, if we don't have certain languages, why not? George the 5th (Lamp) (talk) 04:16, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello @George the 5th (Lamp):, List of Wikipedias may help you! --Maresa63 ^Talk 04:27, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedias are volunteer projects; if there isn't one in a particular language it is because nobody has yet volunteered to start that project, or because that language is not considered eligible (eg Klingon). "In order to pass eligibility, a language must have a valid ISO 639 code, be sufficiently unique, and have a sufficient number of fluent users to form a viable contributor community and an audience for the content."--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:15, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

We do need Sindarin and Quenya, though. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:39, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

There are some languages we used to have, for example Klingon and Toki Pona. See m:History of the Klingon Wikipedia. Or the fake Siberian language, m:Proposals for closing projects/Deletion of Siberian Wikipedia. Quenya/Sindarin were rejected 15 years ago, see m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Tolkien languages. —Kusma (talk) 08:46, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

...Entish? The name for WP would probably be rather long. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

citing sources

I am having trouble with the source citation not maintaining the correct page number when I use the same source for another reference - it influences the original - getting desperate Brentclift (talk) 05:26, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Brentclift: Welcome to the Teahouse. Have you used the {{rp}} template before? You can add it after the reference to append superscript numbers to designate page number(s). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Brentcliff: G'day, if the issue is related to this edit [1], then potentially it is because you are using a WP:NAMEDREF. Where the ref is slightly different, the namedref won't quite achieve what you intending. The rp template mentioned above might be a solution; converting to {{sfn}} with short notes is another option. Or you can simply remove the "ref name=" code and hard code each entry for that reference with a different page number. Anyway, thanks for your work so far on the Charles Bean article. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 12:22, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I am not able to upload

Hey, I have clicked some photos from my smartphone to submit it on wikipedia commons. But i am not able to submit it because I am blocked. So how can i now submit those photos? I have clicked from my own device. Its a image about a building and i want to contribute to wikipedia. So can someone unlock me or can someone upload it for me? Badassboy 63637 (talk) 06:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

hi Badassboy 63637 and welcome to the teahouse! what image are you trying to upload, and from where did you get it (is it your own content, and are you willing to release it under creative commons or similar)? if it isn't yours or you aren't, then it would likely not be allowed to be uploaded as a free alternative to that is possible (and we prefer to use freely usable content whenever possible). seems like you may've been blocked from image submission due to a misunderstanding of WP:Non-free content.   melecie   t 06:41, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, its an image of a skyscraper in Nagpur, I have clicked it and I want to submit it under creative commons as i want to use it in this article, Godrej Anandam. Its a image about a skyscraper in Nagpur. I have a second question as well, are images of skyscrapers (Which we click from our smartphone are copyright free?) Badassboy 63637 (talk) 06:46, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

If you mean that you have taken the photo by going to Nagpur and using your favourite camera, then its permissible. If you mean you downloaded the image from some website - almost certainly not. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:53, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

In Indian English, the expression "click a photo" is pretty common, as an alternative to "take a photo". --bonadea contributions talk 10:54, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, i live in Maharashtra only, and i have went to Nagpur to click the photo as i live very close to that buildings. So when i would be able to upload it? Badassboy 63637 (talk) 07:08, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Badassboy 63637: you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons. It will be then usable on Wikipedia as well. JavaHurricane 07:52, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

No, JavaHurricane, Badassboy 63637 cannot. He said, clearly enough: I have clicked some photos from my smartphone to submit it on wikipedia commons. But i am not able to submit it because I am blocked. This is correct. Badassboy 63637, you are blocked ("Uploading unfree files after warnings"). You are of course entirely free to appeal on your talk page at Commons to have this block lifted. (Suggestion: Think very hard before making any such appeal.) I hope that in the meantime you are not asking for help from other people to get around this block. Attempting to evade a block is likely to have the block extended. -- Hoary (talk) 09:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't see that. JavaHurricane 02:37, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Can I move my draft to an article?

I know the procedure, all I want to know is if I have the permission to move this draft as an article. Excellenc1 (talk) 07:29, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

If you submit the draft I will accept it. Theroadislong (talk) 07:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

How do I make a page?:)

 73.29.173.161 (talk) 09:24, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

If you are referring to a main space article, read WP:1st, it’s a really good guide that takes you from starting a draft to submitting it in the main space. -Justiyaya (talk) 09:45, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

It is not usually advisable nor is it a good idea to start editing Wikipedia by creating an article. Generally, starting with minor edits such as correcting spelling errors or grammatical errors, look how that works, learn a couple of wiki-texts, little of WP:MOS, and our WP:GNG(which is what you may want to internalize) give it a couple of weeks before proceeding. Celestina007 (talk) 15:52, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

How to request page protection

Hi again. Lot of vandalism is happening on the article of M. C. Josephine as she was badly involved in a controversy today. How can I request to protect the page? Pillechan (പിള്ളേച്ചനോട് പറ) 11:05, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla, you do that at WP:Requests for page protection. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:18, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Stefanos Tsitsipas

Hello, I just uploaded a new and recent image of Stefanos Tsitsipas from 2 weeks ago. How can I replace it with Tsitsipas' current display image on Wiki which is not only unflattering but also very old (almost three years)?

 123yali (talk) 11:51, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, 123yali. Could you first confirm that you took the photo File:Stefanos Tsitsipas at the French Open 2021.jpeg yourself? The reason I ask is that it looks like a professional shot. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:54, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

The resemblance to this is striking. -- Hoary (talk) 12:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Publishing article for person

Hello I want to publish a page for one person. She is well-known in Australia. But I'm facing some issues with reliable sources. Is it means that sources should be from the internet? Can someone please give me feedback? Ramil Salihar (talk) 13:52, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ramil Salihar: Welcome to the Teahouse. Sources do not have to be on the Internet, but they have to be reliable. They should also (primarily) be secondary sources to establish the subject's notability, which is what warrants anything to have an article on Wikipedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:37, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ramil Salihar, to expound on what has already been said. WP:OFFLINE sources can be used in so far as it is verifiable and reliable. Also an important feedback would be for you to read our WP:COI policy(if you haven’t already). Celestina007 (talk) 15:43, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

You can't use sources directly connected to the well-known person, such as a personal website, or a press release sent out from the person, or someone who works for her. Look for newspaper or magazine articles about the well-known person, and why what she does is important. Or if she is written about in a trustworthy book (not a self-published promotional book) you can use that as one of at least three reliable sources. Best wishes on your research. Karenthewriter (talk) 15:40, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ramil Salihar, Another good idea might be telling us the name of the individual and we may aid you in finding sources. So basically there’s what is referred to as WP:3REFS(an essay though) that basically implies that three solid references that are in alignment with WP:GNG can prove an article might be notable, so as aforementioned if we knew the name of this person we might be able to provide you with references. I’m not sure but I think it’s Deb she’s an adept at this sort of things. Celestina007 (talk) 17:28, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

draft to publish

 Courtesy link: Draft:The Management Machine

I have a draft, and would like to publish it. I am lost as to how to do it

thanks Eithan-Stephan (talk) 13:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Eithan-Stephan: Welcome to the Teahouse. There is a Submit draft for review! button that you can click, but I would strongly refrain from doing so. Your draft is wholly inappropriate for Wikipedia, as it does not use Wikipedia's tone, appears to be instructional, and is promoting your personal website. Reviewers are virtually guaranteed to decline (if not outright reject) it on sight. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:43, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Note: The draft has since been deleted. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:08, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Citing a named reference on another page.

Hi, given a page named "Page", containing reference <ref name="refname">...</ref>. How is that reference cited on "AnotherPage"? Thanks, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 14:10, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@PeterEasthope: Welcome to the Teahouse. Are you asking if named references can be used across pages? To my knowledge they don't work that way; you would have to define the refname separately on each page for it to properly work on both pages. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:32, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

> across pages?

Yes, across pages. OK, thanks. You've given me another idea, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 14:39, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

inter wiki link

Hi, Strangers (Yamada novel) can be linked to https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%95%B0%E4%BA%BA%E3%81%9F%E3%81%A1%E3%81%A8%E3%81%AE%E5%A4%8F Can you fix it ? Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 14:26, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@GrahamHardy, hello and welcome to the Teahouse, Ive noticed your question has gone unanswered for a while now, perhaps it may be due to the near nebulous manner in which it is constructed, can you re-construct the question? Celestina007 (talk) 17:17, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, GrahamHardy. I have fixed this, as far as I can. The problem is that the Japanese article ja:異人たちとの夏 is about both the novel and the film The Discarnates, and Wikidata doesn't allow an article in one language to be linked to more than one aritcle in another language (known as the Bonnie and Clyde problem). I have moved ja article to link to the Wikidata item on the novel (it was pointing to the one on the film), and added a local link from The Discarnates to the ja article. I can't see a sensible way of adding a link they other way, from the ja article to The Discarnates, but the link to Strangers (Yamada novel) is through Wikidata, so it's both ways.

I notice that Strangers (Yamada novel) says that The Discarnates was based on it, but since that is unsourced, I'm unwilling to add the information to the article about the film. --ColinFine (talk) 17:34, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 21:06, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

.svg file, correct preview, incorrect/old "full" file

I uploaded an update to a file and preview shows United Kingdom correctly as green, but in Media Viewer and "Original file" shows old file, United Kingdom incorrectly as yellow File:Map_of_blood_donation_policies_for_men_who_have_sex_with_men.svg Spiralfeel (talk) 16:05, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Resolved, it was a problem with my browser ( firefox), I refreshed article page and wikimedia File: page(that didn't help), then I refreshed Media Viewer page, and it suddenly started working in Media Viewer then had to refresh .svg files themselves :/ Spiralfeel (talk) 17:13, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Changes in semi-protected pages

Respected Sir/Mam, Could you please explain me how to edit a semi-protected pages of shows, personalities, cities etc. In which format should I edit these pages as one user told me to do in "X to Y" format which I didn't understood. So can you please explain me what is this format through an example as I'm a new user to Wikipedia account. Pra2310 (talk) 16:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

You can't edit those pages directly yet, provide the change you want to be done in talk page of that article and a user that has that the ability should edit it the way you requested.

np. "In the article it says the production started in 3030-05-99, but it is actually 2020-00-99" or just copy paste the exact text that you want to be on that page "the production started in 2020-00-99 and continued to..." Spiralfeel (talk) 16:22, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Pra2310. What that user was telling you was to make an edit request on the article's talk page. When they said "X to Y" they were asking you to be precise: not "I think it should say that ...." but "Please change [these exact words] to [those exact words]". --ColinFine (talk) 17:38, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Page creation

Respected Sir/Mam, Can you please tell me how to create a page for any personality etc. Pra2310 (talk) 16:09, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Pra2310: Thank you for your interest in editing Wikipedia, but I should caution you that creating an article is one of the hardest things that you can do on the site. It is recommended instead that you get editing experience to understand tone, syntax and content. Particularly important is understanding sourcing – the way we determine if a subject is notable enough to be included. Please read WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:30, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Best place to start editing

Hi, I'm User:TypicalWikimedian. I'm wondering today about the best place and method to start editing articles.

Also, I'm still a bit nervous about editing, since my edits are immediately visible to readers. (Even though I've edited by IP before.) —TypicalWikimedian (talk) 16:17, 24 June 2021 (UTC), comment edited again on 16:18, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@TypicalWikimedian: One of many nice things about Wikipedia editing is that there are a lot of guardrails to protect the encyclopedia but also to encourage new editors to participate in a productive way. You are unlikely to break anything, and if you make any mistakes, you can revert them, and others can as well. There are also bots that help with site maintenance. If you’re looking for a great place to get started, the Wikipedia:Community portal has a help out section. Happy editing! TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:26, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

• TypicalWikimedian, Making mistakes is concomitant with genuine new editors, so you have no worries, as stated by Timtempleton, when you inadvertently make a blunder we have fine editors and bots to help correct any good faith errors. I can’t remember a time in my first month of editing where my edits weren't errors, I even made great blunders by testing my editing skills on live articles.

Till date, there isn’t any editor who does not make mistakes, we gain experience by making mistakes.

To answer your question, the best place to start testing your editing skills will be in your sandbox. I wouldn’t advise you to edit on live articles yet except they are minor, such as spelling and grammar corrections. Celestina007 (talk) 16:42, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@TypicalWikimedian: Welcome to the Teahouse! There's also an interactive tutorial that you may be interested in. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:15, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: I've already taken it, but it's not enough. I have to say, this is like walking into a new world. --TypicalWikimedian (talk • contribs) 18:17, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@TypicalWikimedian: The suggestions offered by Timtempleton and Celestina007 are good starting points for beginners. I recommend editing sparsely in the Wikipedia namespace (i.e., pages that are prefixed with Wikipedia:) for now, unless you're participating in a WikiProject or asking for help on a page like here. You may also be interested in putting yourself up for adoption so that an interested experienced editor can help guide you along processes, policies, guidelines, and more. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:06, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@TypicalWikimedian WP:Backlog might help, or this:

You can help improve the articles listed below! This list updates frequently, so check back here for more tasks to try. (See Wikipedia:Maintenance or the Task Center for further information.)

Fix spelling and grammar

• Circular economy
• Lohara dynasty
• Oleh Syzon
• Jamuna River (West Bengal)
• Modern Romanian

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Fix wikilinks

• List of analog television stations in the Philippines
• National symbols of North Korea
• VOC opperhoofden in Japan
• Tanec
• Hyun Joo-yup

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Update with new information

• Katya Chilly
• ULMA Group
• 54th Mechanized Brigade (Ukraine)
• City People Entertainment Awards
• CityLink Gold (BaltimoreLink)

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Expand short articles

• Zaina Bouzerrade
• Cees Toet
• Dick van Burik
• Erwin Sparendam
• Wim Kooiman

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Check and add references

• Web application
• Essel Group
• Vijay (director)
• Hassan Saajin
• Kriyananda

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Fix original research issues

• Thieves' guild
• Sparky's Magic Piano
• Citizen Smith
• Rock 'n India
• Flag of Iran

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Improve lead sections

• Spatial organization
• Law of Northern Ireland
• Bathurst War
• F. Stuart Chapin III
• Foot (furniture)

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Add an image

• Kornigou
• Kentucky Folk Art Center
• Kawajiri Stone Age Site
• Katabon Mosque
• Kopere Solar Power Station

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Translate and clean up

• Jānis Vagris
• Rench
• Zella-Mehlis
• UPTI Affair
• ASD Forza e Coraggio

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Help counter systemic bias by creating new articles on important women.

Help improve popular pages, especially those of low quality.

—Qwerfjkltalk 10:18, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Qwerfjkl: The backlogs are so large! How did they end up like that? -- TypicalWikimedian (talk • contribs) 15:52, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Question about Lloyd Klein

I have a major concern there is this editor on the lloyd klein page called justnumbersandletters that seems to vandalizing that page he keeps on editing that page and putting incorrect information about lloyd klein obviously he is not a fashion expert and more than this he seems to take full control on that page could we assign someone more relevant this is totally unfair  LaModeEnImages (talk) 17:48, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@LaModeEnImages: Copyright infringement is taken very seriously here. Stop trying to copy-paste material into the article. RudolfRed (talk) 18:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Removing re-direct from talk page

Hello. I removed a redirect from a person page who was part of a band as that person is notable on their own. Even though I have successfully removed the redirect from the persons article, the talk page still links back to the band page that it used to redirect to. How do I remove the redirect from this persons talk page? Page in question. Thanks Grapepinky (talk) 18:42, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Grapepinky:  Fixed! On Talk:Tim Commandeur, I replaced the redirect with a WikiProject template. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:23, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Thanks!

Submit button missing

Next discussion : #Draft:CoolIT Systems

Hi, the submit button for an draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:CoolIT_Systems I rewrote based on feedback I received is missing. Please advise Thank you kindly iwanturCAT (talk) 18:53, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@TheGremlin: Another editor fixed it, there is now a resubmit button near the top of the page. RudolfRed (talk) 18:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Some weirdness on User Creation Log

I've been looking on the Special:Log/newusers and there are several brand new accounts that have been made by another new account, User:Swiper Senpai, who isn't showing anything in their edit history. There are currently five new accounts [2] created by this user.

Is this something to raise with admins? Nascent socking?

Princess Persnickety (talk) 18:54, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

This does seem very suspicious. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 21:21, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft:CoolIT Systems

Previous discussion : #Submit button missing

Hi, I recently rewrote a draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:CoolIT_Systems based on feedback and do not see where the [SUBMIT] button is. Please advise, thank you iwanturCAT (talk) 18:50, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Be patient and don't repeat questions, please. RudolfRed (talk) 18:57, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, it's my fault there is a duplicate section – this was posted in a different, unrelated section halfway up the page so I moved it into its own section, not having seen that TheGremlin had posted their question again. TheGremlin, the reason the Submit button was not visible was that you had removed old AfC notices. They need to remain until a draft is accepted, and then the review script removes them. --bonadea contributions talk 19:05, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

no worries, it's a poor interface far more complicated than needed. If it was simple & intuitive like a good website it would reduce many problems & the time people here are spending replying how to work around them. Thank you for your feedback--iwanturCAT (talk) 19:34, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Correcting inaccurate cited sources

I have a particular problem relating to the history and biography of a band that I was a member of back in the ‘70’s.

The citations used to verify information are themselves inaccurate being articles written by journalists but never verified or checked by the band at the time. We are going to release a 6 CD set of previously released and unreleased material together with a 48 page booklet which has information approved by the surviving band members or where deceased, their estates. This cannot be used as a source because we have commissioned this and it would not be considered unbiased.

I’m very frustrated by wiki’s policy of verifiability as against truth, the sources in question don’t, for me, fall under the heading of reliable and fact checked. To add insult to injury, additional sources have just copied so called facts from earlier articles, just exacerbating the problem.

How can I go about correcting these errors. Any help would be most gratefully received. Bertiemerri (talk) 19:49, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

You'd need to yell at the sources, not us. We're an encyclopaedia, and thus we are constrained by whatever sources are available. If the sources are wrong (which does happen), then we're going to end up being wrong and there's nothing we can really do about it other than argue about the source on WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard or on the article's talk page. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 21:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Bertiemerri, publication of a six-CD set is an unusual feat. The material that it includes, and what its 48-page booklet says about this material and about the band, may prod journalists and music critics to wrote about the band afresh. If such writing were indeed published in what are regarded as reliable sources (not mere blogs, etc), then it could be cited. -- Hoary (talk) 22:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

My talk page

I don't know why, but my talk page is included in a category for an unknown reason. Can anybody help me sort that out? Thank you. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 21:26, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ken Tony: Done. Have a look at the diff Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 21:29, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh, that was quick. Thank you Timtrent. Cheers. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 21:30, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ken Tony For any similar problems relating to Categories, try Hotcat. —Qwerfjkltalk 10:24, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I have HotCat Qwerfjkl, but that time, I couldn't remove it with HotCat. That's why I asked for assistance. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 10:31, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ken Tony Oops! —Qwerfjkltalk 10:43, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Qwerfjkl: Ha. No problem. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 10:45, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Wragby dispute

An Anon and User (The same person) keeps changing the lead from town to village and claiming there is a debate by locals on it. This is not a valid argument and without sources confirming it to be a village. It is being changed based on local knowledge and beliefs. Could some users help with this. Cheers RailwayJG (talk) 21:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC) RailwayJG (talk) 21:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, RailwayJG, nobody has yet discussed the issue on the talk page. What you and the others are doing is edit warring. Secondly, I haven't found a single one of the sources which calls it a "town". The Vision of Britain quotes an 1870 source which calls it a village. The census calls it a suburb; and the others either don't give it a classification or are not accessible. If you want to claim it is a town, you need a source for that. --ColinFine (talk) 22:01, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi RailwayJG. I suggest you start a discussion about this on the article's talk page and invite the other two editors (though my guess is that it's the same person) to participate in the discussion. If you look at their contributions history, they're new editors who probably don't yet know about things such as WP:DR; of course, this doesn't make their editing OK, but it might be something worth considering. So, if you politely invite them to discuss things on the article talk page and explain that article content on Wikipedia is really only intended to be in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines, then perhaps they will better understand you're concerns. If they continue to try and force through their version of the article without trying to discuss things, then they and not you will be clearly wrong and you'll be in a much better position to seek administrator assistance. If, on the other hand, you keep simply reverting them whenever they try to make the change, then the article will likely be noticed by someone and an administrator may eventually decide to step in anyway. The difference between the two is that in the former an administrator is going to likely see that you've made an effort to resolve things through discussion, but in the latter they're likely going to see you as being just another part of the problem. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:14, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi ColinFine and Marchjuly thanks for your replies. I am only simply reverting the new anon/user edits because I have already asked them to provide a source to back it up the "village" term and they keep changing the short description. Same Anon did. The page has always been summariased as a town and the source clarifying this is here "https://archives.history.ac.uk/gazetteer/lincs.html" it was given a market charter which would make it in theory a Market Town. It also has a town hall and judging by this. ELDC call it a village. So maybe like Brewood and Tuxford. To an extent Malpas. It was likely a town but lost its charter and town status. So maybe "Ancient Market Town" would be more formal.? RailwayJG (talk) 22:57, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@RailwayJG: Looking at the satellite map of Wragby, my gut reaction was that it's so small that it's surely a village not a town. Then I found mentioned in web searches of Wragby Town Hall, and thought I must have been wrong. But then I found this Charity Commission entry which rather amusingly shows there must be some people wanting to 'big it up' (see photo). Initially, I could find no definitive modern sources stating categorically it is a town or a village, but there are oodles of mid to late nineteenth century sources showing clearly it was regarded as a 'market town' (example). Personally, I think 'market town' will do perfectly for a short description. Wikipedia's own description of what makes a town is itself a little woolly. Driving through via 'Google Street View' does make me feel rather depressed, so 'village' seems far too good for it (LOL), whilst town seems too grand. Than, at last, I found this 2011 UK Census Data entry which states "Wragby output area E00132630 is categorised by the Office of National Statistics as being within a small town surrounded by inhabited countryside." So I think 'small town' is quite acceptable. I will simply let you folks discuss it on the talk page and please avoid further edit warring (but feel free to copy my comments to that page, if you wish.) Nick Moyes (talk) 23:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@RailwayJG: - I'm seeing 2 out of 7 edits yesterday by IPs. This is not into WP:EW territory yet, but I can see there is potential for it to do so. Start a discussion on the talk page. Mjroots (talk) 07:23, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

How to deal with offensive pages

I was looking through the new pages feed just because I wanted to, and I came across this userbox that might be offensive towards Adam Gase. What should I do with it? Under my understanding of the policies, which I spent most of today reading, I'm supposed to replace it with Template:Db-attack, but I just wanted to make sure that's right. --TypicalWikimedian (talk • contribs) 22:24, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

P.S. Am I asking too many questions today? If so, I'll stop.

@TypicalWikimedian: Interesting question. Bit of a grey area in my view. Judging by the win/loss record for this coach and comments in the article, the Infobox Userbox looks rather accurate, and simply records the users pleasure that they've been replaced. CSD G10 related to attack pages, not Infobox Userbox elements. But is it doing any harm/reflecting overly strong biases that we'd want to discourage? Well, maybe it might just be, though I'm personally Ok with users expressing their biases (within reason) on their userpages as it helps me identify what sort of person/editor they are and what biases they might bring into mainspace. Other might take a stricter view. it'll be interesting to see what others think. I shalln't be rushing over to delete it, though. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:25, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: are you talking about the infobox of the article, or the userbox that I linked to that is at User:Dwscomet/My_userbox_creations/GaseFired? --TypicalWikimedian (talk • contribs) 23:31, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm commenting on the Userbox. Sorry I used the wrong term. (WANDERS OFF TO GET COFFEE...) Nick Moyes (talk) 23:34, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Editing problems

I have a problem whenever I try to edit something there's always different suggestions I don't wht

Hey! It's great that you want to help! A great place to look at is the task center, which has different categories for what areas of editing you may be interested in. WhoAteMyButter (📨_talk│📝^contribs) 23:25, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

How do I retrieve my sandbox page that was victim to 'speedy deletion'?

My draft post was recently deleted for being ambiguous and possibly promotional. I was aware of this, but it was still in the editing phase. I really need to retrieve the work I've done so I can edit it. }} Oberix1 (talk) 23:52, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Oberix1 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. First, you will need to change your username immediately, as usernames cannot be that of a business. Please visit Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS to do so. Second, you will need to read about conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required formal disclosures you need to make.

To answer your question, you may make a request at WP:REFUND, though honestly it was so promotional I don't think it's worthy basing an article on. Please be advised that a Wikipedia article summarizes what independent reliable sources have chosen on their own to state about a company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Wikipedia is not a place for a company to tell the world about itself, you should do that on your own website. Wikipedia is only interested in what others say about your company. If you have at least three independent reliable sources, sources that are not press releases, the company website, staff interviews, announcements of routine business activities, or brief mentions, and truly feel that your company meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable company, you would be best to allow independent editors to take note of your company from those sources and choose to write about it, instead of trying to force the issue. However, if you are able to set aside everything the company says about itself, you can summarize what those three(or more) sources say. Please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 00:09, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Create new pages

Hello. My name is Lyubomyr Khaledovych Bilyovych, whom my real name is Adam Daniel bin Asrul, I'm from Malaysia and (Redacted). I'm a very new editor to this web, Wikipedia in various language. I would like to create and produce new pages related to other people and other topics. May I ask your permission to be allowed here for creating new pages that is related to other people and other things? Adamdaniel864 (talk) 00:02, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Adamdaniel864 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You don't need anyone's permission to create a new Wikipedia article(not just a "page") using Articles for Creation. However, I would caution you that succeeding at creating a new article is the hardest task to perform on Wikipedia. It takes much time, practice, and effort, and doing it without understanding how Wikipedia operates can lead to hurt feelings and disappointment as things that you don't understand are happening to any draft you write. I don't want you to have bad feelings, so I would suggest that you spend time editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. Using the new user tutorial is also a good idea, before attempting to create a new article at WP:AFC. 331dot (talk) 00:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Adamdaniel864 I looked at your Talk page to see how much editing you have done, and I discovered you have written a few new articles, but they weren't accepted because you didn't use reliable references. Before you try to write another article I would suggest you learn more about Wikipedia. This is an encyclopedia, and all editors need to show that everything they add to an article is accurate, by showing that the information came from a reliable source.

I believe it would be helpful for you to read dozens of Wikipedia articles on subjects that interest you. That will help you understand how a good article is written. Study how the information is organized, and what references are used. Can you find the same type of references for what you want to write about? After you have read many good articles, start to edit articles, and cite good references for what you add. It may be helpful read Wikipedia:Reliable sources.

I would also suggest you read your first article. There are a lot of rules to learn about how to edit and write for Wikipedia, and you may be discouraged because you have made a few mistakes. But the only way to get better is to practice and learn. I edited for three years before writing my first Wikipedia article, because I knew it would be difficult to write for an encyclopedia. It was hard to learn how to write an article, but all of my editing practice helped me. Please don't be discouraged if it takes time for you to learn how to write a good article. It takes a long time to learn any useful skill. Karenthewriter (talk) 04:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Voluntary editing by a paid editor

Hi, I am a paid editor on Wikipedia (as disclosed on my contribution and my user page), but is it okay as per Wikipedia policies if I do some voluntary editing on the community portal tasks from the same account? TIA. BettytheBeth (talk) 00:07, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, if you've properly disclosed. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 00:14, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

BettytheBeth (edit conflict) Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You are welcome to make any edits that you wish as long as you have declared all paid edits and conflicts of interest that you have. Note that conflict of interest does not just mean edits related to your clients, but their competitors as well, so you will need to keep that in mind. But as long as other edits are unrelated to your paid editing/COI, yes, please make them. 331dot (talk) 00:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Having a Slavic name

Hello. I'm Adam Daniel bin Asrul, I'm from Malaysia and (Redacted). I have been exploring Slavic adventures in my mind since (Redacted) 2019, and also in 2015, 2017. I'm very interested in studying Slavic cultures, things and languages. I even begin to study the Bulgarian and Ukrainian languages (Redacted) in 2019. I even have more interest in the Croatian language and would like to edit more new Croatian-language pages. May I also be known by the Slavic name as Lyubomyr Khaledovych Bilyovych (among Ukrainians and in Ukraine), and also Berislav Ismailović (among Croatians and in Croatia)?

Thank you Adamdaniel864 (talk) 00:21, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Please don't ask the same question at multiple venues. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 00:23, 25 June 2021 (UTC)>

As far as Wikipedia is concerned, your name is Adamdaniel864. No other name matters. On your user page, you may, if you wish, provide your real name. I suggest that you do not. I don't think that there is any policy preventing you from providing false information about yourself (aside from particular kinds of information, in particular contexts), but I suggest that you do not do so, and therefore that you do not say on your user page that your real name is this or that fictional Slavic or Balkan name. If you're happy with the name Adamdaniel864, continue using it. If you'd prefer to have a Slavic- or Balkan-sounding username, then create your one new user ID, announce the relationship between it and your current username on both the new user page and on Adamdaniel864, use the new username and stop using Adamdaniel864. -- Hoary (talk) 01:38, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Tweets as sources

Are tweets considered valid sources to use as a cite for information in an article? I am somewhat unclear on this point after reading a related policy article. Thanks! THX1136 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@THX1136: Twitter and other social media and self-published sources can be used in very limited circumstances. See WP:TWEET for when it can be used and there is also a link there on how to do the citation for it. RudolfRed (talk) 01:20, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your response and help!THX1136 (talk) 01:45, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

After reading the article you linked, I'm thinking the instance I read may be inappropriate. The article is Three Dog Night and the info cited by tweet was Van Dyke Parks' claim of having 'given' the group their name. Thanks again for your help. THX1136 (talk) 02:03, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

THX1136, if the verified Twitter account for a notable person tweets, "Today is my 35th birthday!", then that can be used as a reference for their date of birth, unless the person is a known liar, or obviously over 50 or under 20. But, if a baseball player tweets that they will hit 80 home runs in the 2022 season, then that should be excluded as self-serving, implausible and a crystal ball prediction. This is an example of the importance of good editorial judgement. As for the claim made by Van Dyke Parks, that seems self-serving to me. If that claim is true, then there should be independent, reliable sources that confirm it. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:14, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Cullen: Thanks for the further explanation. That confirms I was understanding policy correctly. The main reason I asked was due to the fact that I was tempted to completely remove the info until a suitable source could be found. THX1136 (talk) 16:32, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Why do some "person" infoboxes show a photograph in the hover-over pop-up, and others don't?

If you hover your cursor over this link, you should see a biographical summary, paired with a photograph in the pop-up. But in this link, no photo appears. I'm not able to spot a difference in the infoboxes that would lead to this different treatment... is it conditional on something else in the infobox? Or a property of the image in wikimedia or wherever?

Here's the one that works:

{{Infobox person
| name          = Anriette Esterhuysen
| image         = Anriette Esterhuysen 01.JPG
| alt           = Anriette Esterhuysen in 2014
| caption       = Anriette Esterhuysen in 2012. 
}}

...and here's the one that doesn't:

{{Infobox person
| name        = Jonathan Zittrain
| image       = Zittrain2.jpg
| image_size  = 250px
|alt=waist high portrait wearing a T-shirt reading "Algunos Derechos Reservados", holding a microphone hand and a marker in the other
| caption     = Zittrain giving a speech in 2007
| birth_date  = {{birth date and age|1969|12|24}}
| birth_place =[[Pittsburgh]], [[Pennsylvania]], [[U.S.]]
| nationality = [[United States|American]]
| education   = [[Shady Side Academy]]
| alma_mater  = [[Yale University]]<br>[[Harvard University]]
| occupation  = Professor
| organisation = [[Harvard University]]<br>[[Electronic Frontier Foundation]]
| spouse      =
| children    =
| website     = {{URL|http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/jzittrain}}
}}

Thanks for any clue you can impart!   EVhotrodder (talk) 01:56, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@EVhotrodder: It is because File:Zittrain2.jpg has a low resolution. Thanks and best wishes. Peter Ormond 💬 02:00, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Peter Ormond: Thanks! You don't by chance know what the threshold is, do you? My google-search-foo is failing me. EVhotrodder (talk) 02:50, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Timothy Heffner

I am attempting to get the above referenced draft published. The issue appears to be the copyright for the three photos. The first was released by Madia Photography, but not sure if properly executed by the business? The other two are personal photos, not protected by copyright. Please help! Since I am an amateur, any detailed help will be appreciated! Pghmedicine (talk) 01:57, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Pghmedicine. You have not submitted your draft to the Articles for Creation process, so nobody will review your draft until you do. Your idea that "personal photos" are "not protected by copyright" is incorrect. A photo that my granddaughter might take of her cat is protected by copyright law in the same way as a masterpiece by a world famous photographer is protected. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:24, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Pghmedicine: I added the Articles for Creation template for you, so you can submit the draft when you're ready. Please be sure that every statement in the draft has a corresponding reference before submitting. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:56, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Why is every editor cruel in responses?

 2600:6C60:7F:9960:CDD1:D0C8:D877:3EE1 (talk) 02:27, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Simple answer is they aren't. I am sorry that you think this. If you have a specific incident that prompted your post please provide a link to it. MarnetteD|Talk 02:31, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Probably related to Stephanie Barton-Farcas and associated deletion discussion. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 02:56, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

About a draft

Hello, im currently having issues with my wikipedia draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Forza_Horizon_5#Gameplay is there a way to improve it? Sebby249294 (talk) 02:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

This is a commercial product. The one source that's cited more often than any other is from the website of what appears to be the game's creator. Another source that's used is that company's Twitter account. Simply, Wikipedia isn't interested in what a company says about its products. (Readers wanting that can go straight to the company's website for themselves.) What have reliable, independent sources said about this game? Use these sources. -- Hoary (talk) 03:22, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Got extended autoconfirmed. Question about the translation tool.

Hai! Just to make sure i understood correctly, can you translate other wiki languages pages into English? For example a wiki article from Amharic to English, Japanese to English, Russian to English etc? Or not... thanksDawit S Gondaria (talk) 03:41, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Dawit S Gondaria: Yes, if the article would meet the English Wikipedia's notability criteria (notability criteria may be different in other language Wikipedias). For more information, see Wikipedia:Translation. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:08, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 05:11, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Dawit S Gondaria, the translation would also have to be properly sourced and meet various other criteria. I can't speak for Amharic- or Russian-language Wikipedias; but you also mention translations from ja:WP. A very high percentage of ja:WP's articles are poorly sourced or mere collections of lists (or collections of poorly sourced lists). Even if carefully translated into English, they'd be junk. -- Hoary (talk) 07:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Other wikis

How to link an article to other language Wikipedia? Peter Ormond 💬 04:52, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Peter Ormond: See Help:Interlanguage links. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:06, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Peter Ormond: What is the article, and what other wikis is it on? Mjroots (talk) 07:17, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Mjroots: Check the word 事頭婆 here. Peter Ormond 💬 07:21, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Peter Ormond: I presume you want zh:事頭婆 linking with an article on en-Wiki. The List of titles and Honours of Elizabeth II doesn't seem to me to be the appropriate target. Do you have a different article in mind? Mjroots (talk) 07:27, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Mjroots: I just wanted to link the word 事頭婆 at List of titles and honours of Elizabeth II to zh:事頭婆 at Chinese Wikipedia. Peter Ormond 💬 07:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Peter Ormond: you need this wikitext [[:zh:事頭婆]|事頭婆]], which produces [[:zh:事頭婆]|事頭婆]]. Scrub that - will have to look it up. Mjroots (talk) 07:35, 25 June 2021 (UTC) Mjroots (talk) 07:38, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Mjroots: I have already linked. Thanks! Peter Ormond 💬 07:40, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Peter Ormond: Hmmm, don't know why that didn't show here as according to H:FOREIGNLINK it should have. Mjroots (talk) 07:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

How to respond to edits replacing BC to BCE?

I saw an editor replacing all instances of BC with BCE [3]. is there a policy that specifies when you're allowed to do this like with British/American spellings? I wasn't sure whether to revert or not. Cheerful Squirrel (talk) 05:09, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Cheerful Squirrel: Yes, see MOS:BCE. GoingBatty (talk) 05:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Cheerful Squirrel. That content has nothing to do with either Christianity or even plausible pre-Christian religion. In my view, the non-religious and neutral BCE is appropriate for this content. Each case must be judged in context. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:36, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Cheerful Squirrel, GoingBatty, Cullen328: Cullen may be right on the merit of BCE in this case, but according to MOS:ERA (second bulleted point) an article's established era style should not be changed without a talk-page consensus to do so. So you would certainly be justified in reverting, citing the absence of talk-page discussion in your edit summary. (You may also decide that reverting isn't worth the trouble in this case.) Deor (talk) 17:21, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Woredas or District

The articles on Ethiopian Third Level administrative zones use the word "Woredas" in their title, which translates into English as "District". For instance, Danot (woreda). Woreda is not defined in most common English dictionaries, and nor does the word appear to be used as the primary term in a brief review of English-language sources[4][5].

This does not seem to be in accordance with WP:NCGN or MOS:FOREIGN, and so it seems these articles should be moved. However, this will involve moving several hundred pages, so before I do this I thought it would be best to confirm my interpretation, and ask if I should obtain a consensus for this from somewhere? BilledMammal (talk) 07:01, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

I suggest you take this up on the Talk page of WP:WikiProject Ethiopia. Given that Wikipedia uses Woreda as a synonym for these districts, I would guess that use in this way has already gained consensus and you certainly shouldn't unilaterally change them all. See WT:WikiProject_Ethiopia/Geography#Woreda_categories and perhaps reach out to editors who contributed there. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:44, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, done. BilledMammal (talk) 03:54, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Mason Smith

I am just wondering why my draft was declined. The work I have submitted "Mason Smith" just had another news article on T.V today Bruinsfan65 (talk) 07:10, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Bruinsfan65, the amount of sources already makes it notable in my opinion, but there's a huge problem. The "early life" and "career statistics" section is not cited, meaning there's no sources. Also with the first paragraph and last sentence of the "playing career" section. Suggestion: I would change "playing" to "hockey", playing sounds trivial. GeraldWL 07:20, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

"This submission's references [...] do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) ...." Or so says Calliopejen1. If this is true, it's hardly surprising, as your biographee, Mason Smith is still a teenager. -- Hoary (talk) 07:21, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Bruinsfan65, There is no way he qualifies for an article. In the references, we have one link to the website of his company (not independent), two links to his team's website (not independent), three links to two local news stories about a teen starting a business during Covid (local human interest stories, not significant), one local news story not about him specifically that mentions his name once, and one website that is a database about prospects for high school hockey players. This is not a person who merits an article in Wikipedia. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:41, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Music album cover

Hey I am new on Wikipedia and create an song article but I don't know how to upload music album cover Menu maharaj (talk) 07:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Menu maharaj, first check if the cover is copyrighted. If yes, click "Upload file" from the desktop sidebar and follow the steps. If not copyrighted (example Creative Commons, public domain), you can upload it at Wikimedia Commons. GeraldWL 07:15, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Gerald Waldo Luis, you seem to imply that what has a Creative Commons license is not copyrighted. Not so. It's also not true that what has a Creative Commons license can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. (Whether it can or not depends on the particular license.) Menu maharaj, where did you find the image, and what does the source say about the copyright status of the image? -- Hoary (talk) 07:26, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Hoary, sorry, I failed to elaborate. Menu maharaj, Creative commons licences with NonCommerical (NC) or NonDeriviative (ND) are not allowed. GeraldWL 07:28, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Hoary I found the image on Apple music and copyright belong to the artist.

@Menu maharaj: In most cases, you can use an image of a copyrighted album cover to illustrate an article about the album only, by uploading it as non-free content to Wikipedia (not to Commons), tagging it with {{Non-free album cover}} and {{Non-free use rationale album cover}}. But non-free images can't be used in drafts, so you shouldn't upload an image until your draft is accepted as an article. (Non-free images unused in articles are subject to deletion.) Deor (talk) 17:04, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Unblocking me from editing pages in the Croatian-language Wikipedia

Hello, I'm Adam Daniel bin Asrul by real name, whom my Ukrainian Slavic name is Lyubomyr Khaledovych Bilyovych, and my Croatian Slavic name is Berislav Ismailović. In fact, I use my real name in this Wikipedia so that my native family members may understand me. I'm an editor of the Wikipedia in various languages. I would like to plead you for this important thing:

I have been blocked from editing pages in the Croatian-language Wikipedia. Can you please discuss with the Croatian-language Wikipedia, so that it can unblock me from editing the pages in it, I cannot wait to create new pages in the Croatian-language Wikipedia and I want to see the page that I created is included in it and is suitable with all information. Please? I cannot wait for it for the first time.

Thank you. Adamdaniel864 (talk) 07:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Adamdaniel864: welcome to the Teahouse. Each Wikipedia version is a separate project, and editors from one project have no say in what happens in another project. Presumably there is a way to appeal a block in Croatian Wikipedia, and that is what you need to look into. Unfortunately there is nothing that English Wikipedia editors can do. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 07:41, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Adamdaniel864: From what Google translate tells me, you seem to be blocked over there for abusing multiple accounts. Their blocking policy is this. They seem to use the same mechanism as the english Wikipedia, their pendant of {{unblock}} is {{Predložak:Odblokirajte me}} Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

who run this place Truman Country Side Red Lions Club_{Kenneth,P}

 66.208.221.125 (talk) 07:50, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm afraid the Teahouse is not the right place to ask this. The Wikipedia: Reference desk or sites like Quora would suit better. GeraldWL 07:57, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

how to write about myself on wikipedia, im new here

tell me easily how to create my own page here, im new here Sai Charan Paloju (talk) 08:17, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

If you wanted to make an article about yourself, check out Wikipedia:COI, but there might be other problems besides a COI. - AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 09:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

A total lack of notability being another. Theroadislong (talk) 09:56, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Replies on your Talk page clearly explain that your attempts to create an article about yourself did not establish notability, and so were Speedy deleted. Wikipedia is not social media. Articles (not 'pages') exist about people who are notable for their accomplishments. David notMD (talk) 11:04, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Is changing plc to PLC preference if the company calls themself PLC?

I recently edited Tesco PLC as I found the capitalisation of PLC to be odd as it was plc. My edit was recently reverted and I am wondering if I should thank the (administrator) revertor for their help or resolve the problem somewhere? If we should resolve the problem please tell me where to do so. Thanks! P.S. Yes I know about NPOV but I am unsure if this is NPOV or not. WhenYouWiki (A person) (Talk) 09:24, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@WhenYouWiki: Article talk page. NPOV means something like "y is an awesome soccer player", which isn't neutral. - AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 09:33, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Gotcha, thx. WhenYouWiki (A person) (Talk) 09:36, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Your edit was reverted because it broke a template (as noted on the edit summary left by the editor who reverted you). WP:NCCORP points out that Wikipedia doesn't use plc in article titles and I don't think that changing "plc" into "PLC" in the body text of an article is helpful. The lower case version is more common in general, despite what Tesco may themselves sometimes use. As just mentioned, the best place to discuss this is on the article's Talk Page. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:35, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

There's more evidence against me, so I'll let it be. WhenYouWiki (A person) (Talk) 09:38, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

please let me create an article on sanket mhatre ( voice artist ) , there was an article on sanket mhatre before someone deleted it

 Netajinagar (talk) 10:25, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

"Someone deleted it" sounds oddly casual. What happened is that the article "Sanket Mhatre" was deleted as the result of this discussion; and re-creation was prevented as there were so many attempts to ignore the decision made after the discussion. You could create a draft in your sandbox, of course making sure that this clearly demonstrates what Wikipedia regards as notability. Then invite Patar knight (who concluded the discussion with "delete") to look at it and agree that your draft is very different from and greatly superior to what was deleted, and therefore merits promotion to article status. -- Hoary (talk) 11:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Specifically, initially deleted in 2019, subsequently recreated as an article, and deleted, FOUR MORE TIMES!, and then 'salted' to prevent another recreation without Administrator approval. Sanket Mhatre is a voice-over actor who dubs for non-Hindi films and television being dubbed into Hindi. It is a profession, but it does not make him notable. David notMD (talk) 11:42, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Vauthors causing vanucover error

This vauthors=Cardoso DSP, Kincses A, Nové M, Spengler G, Mulhovo S, Aires-de-Sousa J, Dos Santos DJVA, Ferreira MU cause vanucover error. How do I fix it. Its of tabernaemontanine. Machinexa (talk) 10:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Machinexa: Name 1 (Cardoso DSP) gives the error "Vancouver style error: initials in name 1". This may be because of the "DSP". What is this person's full name?
Name 7 (Dos Santos DJVA) gives a different error: "Vancouver style error: name in name 7". I don't know what that means, but again, can you provide the full name of this person too? Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 10:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

DesertPipeline (talk) 10:48, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Here's the full name, I have been using citation tool to generate, so could you generate a error-free vauthors.

David S P Cardoso 1 , Annamária Kincses 2 , Márta Nové 2 , Gabriella Spengler 2 , Silva Mulhovo 3 , João Aires-de-Sousa 4 , Daniel J V A Dos Santos 5 , Maria-José U Ferreira 6 (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33189435/)
Machinexa (talk) 11:00, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Machinexa: Thank you. Please review my edit and tell me if this is correct. Also, I fixed the indenting of your comment. Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 11:17, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

In my experience, Vancouver error triggered when there are more than two initials after the surname. I choose to use the first two, discarding the others. Hence, Cardoso DS and Dos Santos DJ. David notMD (talk) 11:31, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

How can i create a page which was previously deleted ?

I wanted to create a page for an actor in wikipedia but i came to know that some others have tried to create this and got deleted due to diffrent reasons.How can i again make a page that was previously deleted? please help me out Bgaustin (talk) 10:58, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Bgaustin: could you tell me which page? JavaHurricane 11:03, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Bgaustin, theoretically speaking you just recreate it, if it was deleted under a G4 via a deletion discussion insofar as the old article and the new one aren’t similar you should have no problems. That’s just in theory though if you could provide the precise article as suggested above then, a more precise answer can be given. Celestina007 (talk) 14:58, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Bgaustin, and welcome to the Teahouse. There are several different possible answers, depending on the reasons why the article was deleted previously - as others have said, we would need to know the name of the actor to find that. Most articles that are deleted for either lack of notability, copyright infringement, or pure promotion. If it is copyright infringment or pure promotion, it is unlikely that an admin would be willing to restore it, so you would need to start from scratch. If it was deleted as non-notable, then it is possible that an admin would agree to restore it so that you could work on it and add the new sources which establish that the subject is notable - see REFUND. Either way, your tasks begins with finding suitable sources to establish that the actor meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability: if they do not exist, then you should stop trying, as no article will be accepted. If you can find suitable sources, then you can try the difficult task of creating a draft: please see your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 16:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Not a Paid Contributor

Hi Teahouse I'm new here so forgive me. I noticed an article I was editing that I have retrieved from deletion a few times now has the heading "this article may have been paid for." Is there anyway to remove this? I did not create the article but am a fan of Detroit music and this particular artist has been stellar achieving satellite radio play. I looked her up after hearing her on SiriusXM and begin to submit to her wiki. I initially found her article in the delete retrieved it and started to help her. Draft:Eliza_Neals . Now the article will need to be published after its recovery I have not doen this before. I am not paid and don't have a conflict of interest as I'm just a fan, however the press and radio play continues to pour in. I have used her website and verified sources before submitting any links. I also updated Detroit area music acts of historic significance and others that may be inaccurate. I'm not on here often and noticed I may have missed a few alerts any way to tie these to my email address? Ok thanks BluesRock007 (talk) 11:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

BluesRock007 At Draft:Eliza Neals I have removed the undeclared paid editing tag because the creating editor has since been indefinitely blocked. You can submit the draft to Articles for Creation (AfC) review by putting subst:submit at the very top, inside of double curly brackets {{ }}. There is a backlog of thousands of submitted drafts. The system is not a queue. It could be days, weeks, or (sadly) months before a reviewer decides to look at it. David notMD (talk) 09:27, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Charmed_Playhouses

Hi. I accidentally duplicated my draft for the article Charmed Playhouses. The article was declined because the draft existed. Then the draft was deleted because the article exists. In an endless loop of neither of them existing or pending review, both citing the other as the reason. I attempted to resubmit the draft. But I am worried it will be denied again, because of the non-existent article page. Any advice? Thank you! Its393939 (talk) 12:27, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello @Its393939! Moving on from all that happened, Draft:Charmed Playhouses is the one you should improve and submit. If there is content in Draft:Charmed Playhouses(2) that you wish to include in your submission, move it to the former. After improving the draft, I recommend that you address the question of your apparent conflict of interest that the previous reviewer raised, before you submit it for review again. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 16:11, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Graeme McLagan

I would like help with making a name/subject introduced into the text during an edit, and already on Wikipedia, turn blue. Thank you. Christopher michell Christopher michell (talk) 12:42, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

The only redlink I can see in Graeme McLagan is to the South East Regional Crime Squad. That article doesn't appear to exist, hence is red. Was there an existing article that you wanted the link to go to? That's easily accomplished using the pipe character, as in [[Flying Squad|South East Regional Crime Squad]]. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:09, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

biography submission

Draft:Professor Faisal Dar (Sitara-e-Imtiaz) I have submitted this updated and valid biography but its submission is declined due to the presence of another biography with this link Draft:Faisal Dar

Kindly remove or delete the link (Draft:Faisal Dar), so that above mentioned actual biography may considered for review. Itrat Aun (talk) 14:20, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Itrat Aun Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The exact title of the draft is not important; if it is accepted, the reviewer will place it at the proper title. I think it is a long ways from being accepted, as it has much promotional language in it. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 14:25, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Your draft deleted. The other draft declined. Given that you did not create the other draft, you are not allowed to ask for it to be deleted. If both drafts about the same person, you could contact the creator of Draft:Faisal Dar to ask if it would be OK for you to edit it. David notMD (talk) 19:21, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Help with process for conflict resolution and potentially reporting sockpuppetry

This is a sticky subject and probably not the right place to discuss this. One of the pages (a WP:BLP) I have on my watchlist had a recent edit and I found that the citations did not back their primary claim and none could be found so I reverted with a post on the talk page of the article. The editor reverted my revert without giving a reason, discussion, or addressing the concern. I placed a simple message (not a conflict template) on their talk page and pinged them in the main article's talk page as well. Upon checking their other edits I found that they have only worked on the page in question and suspiciously (although I'm still WP:AGF) their first edit was made right after protection was removed from that page for disruptive editing. All of their edits seem to be focusing on the individual's achievements so it is possible that this current account making edits is the same as one of the accounts due to whom the page was protected in the first place. Alternatively there could be conflict of interest. Pure speculation right now of course. Any help would be welcome. -Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 15:08, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

I've welcomed the user with {{welcome-COI}}. It looks like a clear-cut COI case to me. JavaHurricane 16:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ujwal.Xankill3r, welcome to the teahouse. I would like to assure you that you are probably in the right here (I'm assuming you're referring to Amitabh Kant), and if you suspect the user is a sock puppet, and have evidence to back it up, open an investigation at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations (I am not experienced in this field so some other editor will probably be more qualified to answer here). Justiyaya (talk) 16:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you both! I'll re-check the 2/3 accounts that started this all before the protection was put into place and look at the sockpuppet investigations page. -Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 16:23, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

What should we do if we create a draft article...

If we get Articles for Creation for article submissions and drafts, what would be editing using a sandbox over these drafts or AfC submissions? In addition, but clearly we must read Help:Your first article. --Diegopeter2013 (talk) 15:29, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Diegopeter2013: Welcome to the teahouse, if I am understanding your question correctly, you are asking about the use of the sandbox page, the sandbox is for testing while the draft space is for more of drafting articles. Main differences between draft space and sandbox spaces are as follows

1. Usually, sandbox pages are unlikely to get deleted
2. Sandbox pages can be used for testing warning templates, welcoming templates, user boxes (and many more)
3. While sandbox pages can be submitted for AfC, a draft article's goal is to be submitted to AfC, or moved directly to mainspace.
4. Draft space is more welcome to collaboration, while sandboxes are more limited to the user who created it.

If you have any other questions, or if I misunderstood your question, please reply to this thread or start a new question. Justiyaya (talk) 16:02, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

vi chiedo se è possibile inserire nella pagina di Annalisa Malara l'articolo del giornale NTYTimes dal titolo " i giorni persi che hanno reso Bergamo una tragedia del Coronavirus. grazie

 95.236.42.246 (talk) 15:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Richieste di cambiare lo contenuto di pagine se dovano inscibire sulla pagine dello articolo specificato (nel cuesto caso, Talk:Annalisa Malara). Allora, ecco in Wikipedia inglese è previsto parlare in inglese. Si non puoi voi parlare in inglese, suggerisco che voi participare na Wikipedia Italiana. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 16:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Tone of Biography - Rose Matsui Ochi

Hi, I'm writing a biography about Rose Matsui Ochi. Would you offer any tips on tone? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rose_Matsui_Ochi#Early_Life_and_Education

Many thanks! Dsalerno (talk) 16:04, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Dsalerno: Please provide a reliable source for every statement and quotation. Phrases such as "fired her lifelong commitment to fight for the underdog", "pivotal roles", and "forever associated" do not seem to have an encyclopedic tone. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:20, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dsalerno, welcome to the teahouse. First of all, great draft, it seems evident that you put a lot of effort into it. You should add links to the article to improve it's readability. You need more sources to back up unreferenced claims about the subject of the article. As for the NPOV issues, I would say that the last sentence "at a time when women were viewed as nothing more than housekeepers", "forever associated" and "pivotal roles in helping the community" in the Work Life section are examples of NPOV issues in the draft. Finally, I would add a infobox to provide information at a glance for the reader. Draft contains copyvio issues -Justiyaya (talk) 16:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, GoingBatty and Justiyaya. I appreciate your helpful comments!

Justiyaya, how would I add an infobox to provide information at a glance for the reader? If you point me to the instructions, I am happy to add. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsalerno (talk • contribs)

Note: Draft has since been deleted for unambiguous copyright violation. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:02, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

How to Revert an Edit After Realizing COI

Hello Friends, Is there a way to revert an edit to a suggestion post-publishing? I realized I should after editing a page that I thought I was an expert on. It turns out I just have a major conflict of interest based off of the definition. I'd still like to suggest the edits because it has a lot of great unbiased updated information, but I don't want to type and research everything all over again. I spent like 5 hours on it. Esylve (talk) 16:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Esylve: One option could be to post on the article's talk page, to see what other interested editors think about your edit. GoingBatty (talk) 16:23, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty:That's a great idea! Thank you. I also declared it on my user page. I'm so excited about writing on wikipedia. I was always fascinated with encyclopedias as a kid and this is like, the world's hugest encyclopedia. Esylve (talk) 16:32, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

I personally would not consider your COI (editing an article about a University you attended as a student) as particularly severe, so I suggest leaving you edits in the article. You have properly declared COI on your User page and the article's Talk page. You added two images as "own work." Are these really yours? David notMD (talk) 19:35, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Whispers novel

Sorry but I made a bit of a mess, can someone redirect Whispers (1993 novel) to Whispers (Plain novel) and delete Whispers (Pain novel), sorry for being a pain, Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 16:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@GrahamHardy: You can use WP:Requested moves to ask for technical help to delete the redirect and allow the page to be moved. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:26, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

I asked for Whispers (Pain novel) to be moved to Whispers (Plain novel), fingers crossed... GrahamHardy (talk) 16:47, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

All OK now, a bit of a pain though...GrahamHardy (talk) 17:40, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Need help with archiving

Hello, this is sort of stupid, but to archive, I copied another editor's code (and notified them). The code worked and archive happened but the archived are not showing in the box at the top right like they usually do. Can someone help me fix this? My talk page is here [6] Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 16:44, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! Looks like copying the editor's code resulted in Archive 4 and Archive 5, but not an Archive 1, 2, or 3. Maybe it's not working because there's no Archive 1? If you don't receive an answer here, you might want to ask at Template talk:Archives. I also added {{Unsigned}} in one section, because without a signature, the section won't get archived. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:07, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

I noticed that it also created an Archive 3. I think it is going backwards from 5 which is okay with me but it doesn't show them on my main page. Thanks for adding the unsigned template. I will also check the talk page of archives. Very helpful suggestion. Tea house never fails me. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 11:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Nomadicghumakkad, the code you had had the counter set to 4 instead of 1. That's why it's acting weird. My advice is to move archive 4 to archive 1, archive 5 to archive2, and set the counter on your talk page to 2, so that the bot starts filling up the archive in order. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 16:27, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Usedtobecool. Will try this. PS: I think you are still pretty cool! Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 16:36, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

How do I add pictures when I'm editing

How do I add a picture when I'm editing a page please me out how do I do this  AnimeXweeb (talk) 16:54, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@AnimeXweeb: There are several examples at Help:Pictures. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:09, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Does anyone know who eradicated the article on weather as weaponry?

There's a Geneva Convention on the use of weather as weaponry after Monsanto was using it during the Vietnam War. Wikipedia had a great deal of information and now, it's gone.

George Orwell's concept is winning. "Those who control the past control the future." Dibrager (talk) 18:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Dibrager This isn't an Orwellian issue. There has never been an article titled "weather as weaponry". Do you have the exact title of this article? 331dot (talk) 18:47, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

331dot, I wonder if Dibrager is talking about Environmental Modification Convention.

There is also Weather warfare article. RudolfRed (talk) 19:01, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Not to pile on, but you may also be interested in other articles on the United States' attempted herbicidal warfare and weather warfare during the Vietnam War, including Operation Ranch Hand and Operation Popeye. RoxySaunders (talk · contribs) 04:06, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Lone signature without a question

Lucasmundofantasia (talk) 18:50, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Lucasmundofantasia: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Did you have a question about how to edit or use Wikipedia? Kleinpecan (talk) 18:52, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Secondary Sources

Hi, I just wanted to clarify what a secondary source is. So a press release or the first published article on a topic would not count as a secondary source, but websites or articles containing info from the primary source counts as secondary? For instance, I am currently editing an article about person and her past jobs, one where she was a press secretary to a Premier. I can't find any other article where it exclusively talks about the appointment of the person as the press secretary to the Premier, but there are articles that reference her being the press secretary (i.e. her name followed by her title) , but only in one sentence as the article is not about her appointment. Would that count as a secondary source? Would other articles that reference her previous role be considered as a secondary source and be used as a citation? Cynthiaboardoftrade (talk) 19:40, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Cynthiaboardoftrade: This might clarify things for you. Wikipedia:No original research#Primary. A press release is a primary source. A discussion of the press release is a secondary source. I could issue a press release on Businesswire saying I'm the King of Spain, but it is up to journalists covering that release to determine if it's a valid claim or not. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:00, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Cynthiaboardoftrade: Articles from reliable newspapers or magazines that reference her being the press secretary could be used as a source to support a statement that she was a press secretary. However, the article should have multiple independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage about her to demonstrate that she meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:11, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

IP editor removing sandbox heading

Pinging IP editor in question to discuss here: User:95.54.191.40 User talk:95.54.191.40 Special:Contributions/95.54.191.40

Hi, I'm User:TypicalWikimedian. I noticed an IP editor, namely 95.54.191.40, repeatedly removing the sandbox header from the sandbox, having been told to stop multiple times (in edit summaries (like this one) and on their talk page (history)). In addition, the IP also adds the {{nobots}} template to prevent the sandbox heading from being put back. What should I do? Should I treat it as vandalism? --TypicalWikimedian (talk • contribs) 20:06, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

P.S. The IP almost exclusively edits the sandboxes, making me feel like they're not doing anything to improve the encyclopedia. --TypicalWikimedian (talk • contribs) 20:08, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

I have blocked the IP from editing the sandbox and the associated template. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:15, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Wiktionary

How to cite Wiktionary in articles? Peter Ormond 💬 22:15, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

You shouldn't cite it. You may link to it. [[:wikt:crepuscular|crepuscular]] → crepuscular. -- Hoary (talk) 22:23, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

(ec) @Peter Ormond: Wiktionary is user generated content and so it is not a reliable source for use in Wikipedia articles. But, each entry will have, on the right side list of links a "cite this page" link that will show what citations would look like in various forms (APA, MLA, etc) if you were to use it. Example: [7] RudolfRed (talk) 22:26, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Deleting out of date information

Hi there I'm new to editing so this is a basic question. Where information is out of date, for example information sourced from a 2009 survey that is no longer accurate, is it better to remove this entirely or reframe the article to "In 2009...However more recently...". Pipiwharauroa (talk) 22:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

The latter, and switch to past tense where appropriate: No longer "The population is [...]", but instead "In 2009, the population was [...]". Better still, of course, is to update the article, from a source that is just as reliable for 2021 (or whenever) as the older one was for 2009. -- Hoary (talk) 00:28, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

View history

When looking at (View history) revision/older version history of articles, what does the commands cur and prev do and the ability to fill in the circle selection option for each revision do. 47.150.227.219 (talk) 23:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. See Help:Page history:

1. (cur) takes you to a diff page, showing the difference between that edit and the current revision. The current revision appears below the changes, so you can see how the page is now rendered.
2. (prev) takes you to a diff page showing the changes between that edit and the previous revision. The most recent revision (the one on the same line as the "prev" you clicked on) appears below the changes, so you can see how the page was rendered.
3. The two columns of radio buttons can be used to select any two revisions on the page. The current selection is marked by a special background. The two most recent revisions are selected by default when you first view the history (that is why they appear framed and have a different background, see horizontal area below 4). Let's say you want to compare the revisions corresponding to numbers 10 & 11 on the image. First, click the left radio button next to number 11. The right column of buttons will then fill as far as number 11. Then click the right button next to number 10. Finally click Compare selected revisions. This takes you to a diff page showing the changes between the two revisions. The most recent revision (in this case number 10) appears below the changes, so you can see how the page was rendered.}}

Kleinpecan (talk) 00:10, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Trouble with page move

Attempted to move Draft: Discography of Sibelius symphony cycles to Discography of Sibelius symphony cycles, but I think I mad a mistake. Content ended up at Wikipedia: Discography of Sibelius symphony cycles. Oops! Sorry. this was my first time. Silence of Järvenpää (talk) 01:37, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Reverted. Most users can't move anything to Discography of Sibelius symphony cycles, because the latter already exists. (You'd have to delete it before you moved anything there.) In the talk page of your draft, you say "For the last month I have been at work, in my sandbox, on an expansion of the Discography of Sibelius symphony cycles." Actually, a candidate replacement for it. There are various ways to implement such a replacement, but I'm not going to guess which (if any) is most appropriate, and right now I don't have the time to investigate. Perhaps another administrator would care to do so. -- Hoary (talk) 01:56, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Started in my sandbox. Moved to the draftspace. Now want to move to the main space. Why is in need of investigation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silence of Järvenpää (talk • contribs)

Because there's a problem: the target exists. (i) Blank the content of the target, copy the content of the draft, plonk the new content in. (NB you'd lose all the history of the draft.) (ii) Delete the target, move the draft to the target address. (NB The old article wouldn't just be out of sight, it would be irretrievable for most users.) (iii) Attempt some kind of history merge. -- Hoary (talk) 03:28, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

DragonflySixtyseven has done the third of these. -- Hoary (talk) 09:06, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

How can i create a user template?

 Debasis(Gopinathpuria) (talk) 03:12, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Debasis(Gopinathpuria): Welcome to the Teahouse! Are you referring to the userboxes that are on your user page? If so, see Wikipedia:Userboxes. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:06, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) hi @Debasis(Gopinathpuria) and welcome to the teahouse! do you mean a userbox? the Template:Userbox is what's used for those, simply fill in the details. all you really need to create a basic userbox are the id (the small left box), info (the longer right box), id-c (color of the left box), and info-c (color of the right box) tags. if you need any extra help, feel free to ask or ping me, I do way too many userboxes.

if you are asking for a user infobox however, that's over at Template:Infobox Wikipedia user and you can just copy/paste the template and fill in the details. happy editing!   melecie   t 04:14, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

oh, and since having too many options may be overwhelming, here's the code to copy paste for a simple userbox:

{{userbox
| id = <!-- small box text/image -->
| id-c = <!-- small box background color -->
| info = <!-- long box text/image -->
| info-c = <!-- long box background color -->
}}

  melecie   t 04:20, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Arakanese Literature

We are Arakanese. We are trying to teach Arakanese to others who want to learn Arakanese. At this time we are mixed with Burmese written language. Burmese and Arakanese speak the languages very nearest to understand each other. But many Burmese pretend that they do not understand Arakanese. Arakanese speak their language very exactly, but Burmese speak the language imperfectly. Most Arakanese do not like Burmese because of its imperfectness, however they speak Burmese in need of relationship with Burmese people. At this time we will need our language to develop better. We are trying to use an old style of Arakanese writing that was unknown by many others in Arakan. Some Arakanese want to write their language to be different from Burmese style of writing. Vesalimagadha writing is a different one from Burmese writing. We have found it. We will give a message to our people Arakanese who want to learn Vesalimagadha Arakanese. We will need your Wikipedia to assist us. We honestly ask your assistance to use this Wikipedia. Wikipedia is very helpful to all people in the world. Thank you all who are working in Wikipedia. Vesali Magadha Arakanese (talk) 03:19, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

(i) This page is about English-language Wikipedia. What assistance with English-language Wikipedia are you asking for? (ii) Wikipedia (in any language) is not a place to attempt to right wrongs. -- Hoary (talk) 03:31, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Vesali Magadha Arakanese: Welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia isn't an instruction manual, so your intention may be inappropriate for this website, but it could be appropriate for our sister Wikimedia project, Wikibooks. Just understand that Wikimedia projects try to maintain neutrality. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:41, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Vesali Magadha Arakanese: Are you trying to propose a new Wikipedia for your language? Go here: [8]. I've never done it before, but there are instructions there at the top of the page. RudolfRed (talk) 03:47, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Continuous reverting of my edits!

Hey, a guy called Eddaido reverted my edits with a reason of *No and No* What was this? The article on which he reverted my edits are MG Cars. I am making edits on the article with proper citations and making it more clear that the brand is a chinese owned brand rather than a british brand. When you first open that articles its called a british brand and then a chinese owned brand. I made it clear that what were my edits and what changes i did. But for a reason that guy just reverted my edits with a reason called *no and no* ? What is this? Does wikipedia workes on likes of people or facts? And i am mentioning proper reasons as well but he is reverting my edits. Please check it! Badassboy 63637 (talk) 06:18, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Badassboy 63637: You’d be better off discussing this on the article talk page. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 07:21, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Badassboy 63637: Better ask him (User:Eddaido) directly on his talk page, if you giving right info about the article.

@Badassboy 63637:, User:Eddaido Forgot to sign. Siddartha897 (talk) 08:18, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

More than one editor reverted your changes. The Lead already acknowledges that the Brit brand is now owned by a Chinese company, so there is no need to also add that to the first sentence. NOTE: This is an article about the history of the brand: "This article is about the history of the MG marque and the M.G. Car Co. Ltd (1930–1972)." Please stop trying to change the Lead. David notMD (talk) 08:45, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Uploading images

Next discussion : #Reference problem

I have a small doubt; how can I upload images in my draft article in Wikipedia? Hrishikesh Namboothiri V (talk) 06:33, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Hrishikesh Namboothiri V: If the image is freely licensed, you may upload it to our sister Project Wikimedia Commons using their upload wizard which will also provide you with the syntex needed to insert the image. If the image is not freely licensed, then you may not upload it at this time because fair use images are not allowed in draftspace. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:45, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

If this is about Draft:Traditional Malayalam months, I suggest you work on adding references before resubmitting, and delay any attempts to add images until after you get the draft accepted as an article. David notMD (talk) 08:50, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I discovered that an article Malayalam calendar exists. Given this, I recommend you stop working on your draft. David notMD (talk) 09:01, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

a word that would encompass the idea of self-actuation

 Disclaimed (talk) 07:51, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Disclaimed: What do you mean? Ask questions relvant to WP, not other stuff.Siddartha897 (talk) 08:10, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Disclaimed, look in a search engine for "thesaurus", and look in the thesaurus for "self-actuation". (And Siddartha897, "Please " adds just six keystrokes.) -- Hoary (talk) 09:12, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Disclaimed: and @Hoary: I apologzie.

@Disclaimed: @Hoary: forgot to sign. Siddartha897 (talk) 17:07, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Duchess potatoes

Could we remove the ‘notability’ tag from this article? It appears to be reliably sourced and it has significant coverage (I got over 1.8 million hits when I did a Google search). It compares favourably with most items in List of potato dishes, most of which aren’t tagged as possibly not notable. Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:37, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Overlordnat1 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure the notability is demonstrated by the given sources an article content(one short paragraph). It's not enough for something to have lots of google hits, there must be significant coverage in independent reliable sources that needs to be in the article itself. However, if you feel that the notability criteria has been met, you may remove the tag yourself. I might suggest that you attempt to discuss it on the article talk page first, perhaps other editors who follow that article might know more. 331dot (talk) 09:41, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

The first two references might be more convincing if they supplied page numbers. Maproom (talk) 17:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Overlordnat1, I have expanded the article and removed the notability tag. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:56, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Reference problem

Previous discussion : #Uploading images

 Courtesy link: Draft:Traditional Malayalam months

I can't delete references from my draft article. Please fix it. Hrishikesh Namboothiri V (talk) 09:49, 26 June 2021 (UTC). And, thank you Victor Schmidtfor giving me the information

Hrishikesh Namboothiri V To delete your draft, which is recommended on your Talk page, at the top of your draft, put Db-g7 inside of double curly brackets {{ }}. This will bring your draft to the attention of an Administrator, who will delete it. David notMD (talk) 16:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Can't publish my draft

I can't publish my draft article 'Traditional Malayalam months'. Wikipedia says that Submission declined on 25 June 2021 by KylieTastic. Hrishikesh Namboothiri V (talk) 10:13, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Hrishikesh Namboothiri V Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. As noted by the reviewer, your draft is completely unsourced. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources state about a topic. Please see Your First Article for more information. If you haven't already, you may wish to use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia and how it operates- this is good to know before attempting to write a new article, which is the absolute hardest thing to do on Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 10:17, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

As noted, there is an existing article on Malayalam calendar; you may wish to contribute to that article instead of creating a new one that duplicates its content. 331dot (talk) 10:18, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

See above on how to delete your draft. David notMD (talk) 16:59, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Fastest train service in India

Main article: High-speed rail in India

Fastest train service operating in India should Gatimaan Express with actual operating speed up to 160km/h. But Vande Bharat Express's 180/km/h not actual operating speed on track for revenue service. All train can running up to 130km/h, only actual speed can describe on "Fastest train service" articles, unless clarify as "theoretical speed" or similar.

If someone believe the fact of Fastest train service operating in India has different view on me, please provide reliable source as a evidence.Hmht45tgree3d (talk) 10:18, 26 June 2021 (UTC) Hmht45tgree3d (talk) 10:18, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Hmht45tgree3d The best place for this discussion would be on the article talk page of the relevant article. 331dot (talk) 10:19, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

reliable sources

Please someone to explain how to add reliable sources. I'm new and really need your help. Thanks Vanya Kostova (talk) 11:28, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Vanya Kostova. You can found out some more information about how Wikipedia defines a "reliable source" on this page and you can find out some more about how to add citations to a Wikipedia article on this page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:39, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Very simply, Draft:Babak Shayan doesn't give the reader any reason to believe what it says. Compare, say, the article Lloyd Coxsone: this does a decent job of pairing each assertion with a reliable source. -- Hoary (talk) 12:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

History of PROD and AfD

Is there an easy way to tell if an article has previously been nominated for deletion? TipsyElephant (talk) 16:33, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

TipsyElephant, that information is usually available on the article's talk page. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 16:45, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Join as a board member in local Wikimedia

How can I join as a board member of local Wikimedia? I am from Bangladesh. SojolRana (talk) 17:29, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello SojolRana and welcome to the Teahouse. You can find out more information about joining Wikimedia Bangladesh here: [ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Bangladesh#Becoming_a_member ]. It does cost money also, while editing a wiki is always free. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 18:16, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Categories

Hi, I've just asked a cross-referred question about searching categories. How to do this? Ema--or (talk) 18:07, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello Ema--or and welcome to the Teahouse. To search categories, type in Category: Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 18:12, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ema--or: Welcome to Wikipedia. This was also answered at the Help Desk. Please only ask your question on one place. RudolfRed (talk) 19:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

And yes, first time here. Ema--or (talk) 22:21, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Another thing; the launch of fast & Furious 9 has got me thinking about Paul Walker. Specifically whether or not there were (or are) categories like actors who died during their careers, or who starred in posthumous films or who died while filming. Indeed any kind of unfinished career or project - athletes who died during their careers, musicians, novelists or creatives who died during their careers or who left work unfinished, or died while performing. Possibly unencyclopaedic ... I have another part of this question coming up, but I thought I'd defer to others here first. Ema--or (talk) 22:34, 26 June 2021 (UTC) Ps Certainly want avoid steamrollering in this (these) first post(s).

@Ema--or: There's Category:Works published posthumously, but that doesn't cover actors or films. I can't find a related list article either. If you don't get an answer here, you might want to ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film. GoingBatty (talk) 03:21, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ema--or: There is Category:Deaths onstage, but that's not limited to film actors. GoingBatty (talk) 03:24, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ema--or: There's also List of film and television accidents. GoingBatty (talk) 03:25, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Drafts for Article Rewrites

Hi, I've been working on a major rewrite of Étienne de Perier in the wake of an edit war that left the page locked for a few days. (I was not involved in the edit war, but have been trying to shape and moderate the discussion since it was reopened.) In general, the participants have been willing to work on the talk page to determine consensus, working section by section. We're getting to the section where the controversy began and even the simple conversations have been hard to manage with spelling out suggested edits and changes on the talk page. So, is it acceptable to create a subpage of the talk page that would be for draft text? I'm thinking "Talk:Étienne de Perier/Rewrite-Draft" or something and text can be worked on that page with the discussion on the talk page. I'm not sure if that will be more efficient or not, but I thought it might help. What do others think? Are there some guidelines or best practices for managing this sort of group rewrite? Carter (talk) 18:36, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

And ... I just found WP:SUB, so it seems like a Talk subpage is an allowed place for content under construction as part of a rewrite. So I think I can do it; anyone have advice as to whether or not that's a good approach in this situation? —Carter (talk) 23:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

How to make a UserBox.

How can I make a Userbox on Wikipedia? ItsJustdancefan (talk) 21:26, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

As explained here, ItsJustdancefan. -- Hoary (talk) 21:59, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Premature deaths

Moved from Help talk:Contents § HiEma--or (talk) 16:55, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is the right forum (WP is really confusingly, big), but I'm looking for content or categories relating to premature deaths. Posting elsewhere for coverage. Feel free to remove if inappropriate or off-point.

@Ema--or: Category:Deaths by cause is probably the closest thing we have, as "premature" is a bit of an amorphous concept. For next time, you can post questions at the WP:Teahouse or (if they don't relate to editing) at the WP:Reference desk. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 17:02, 26 June 2021 (UTC) Thanks, seen. Ema--or (talk) 17:05, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Edit Boldness

How bold should I be with my edits? Can I rewrite without seeking permission, or do I write gingerly? What is the link to the page about edit boldness?

- 56independent (talk) 21:53, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Notacoworcat. Whilst you can WP:BEBOLD with your editing, as you're very new to Wikipedia please don't be too bold, and don't reinsert something you've changed if it then gets reverted. Instead of edit-warring because your preferred change has been rejected, that's actually then the time to discuss with the other person. If you're planning a major rewrite of something, I'd suggest it's never a bad idea to outline your concerns on the article's talk page first and see what others think. The choice of approach is yours. Just remember we work by consensus, not personal preference, and you should be OK. Hope this helps, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:05, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

PS: if you don't like your original username, you might wish to read Wikipedia:Changing username. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:06, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Notacoworcat: Without boldness nothing would ever get done. Being bold basically means that if you have a good idea on how to improve an article, don't sit on it for a long time, thinking if people are going to like it, asking around if it's a good idea etc. but do it. Seeing is believing. People will see the change and immediately understand the reasoning behind it, and in most cases accept that it's an improvement, making many potentially long and fruitless discussions unnecessary (edit summaries help a lot here though, which is why they're so important). So boldness isn't about intensity of emotion behind your edits, but simply about efficiency. Then, if someone comes up who thinks it wasn't such a good idea, you wouldn't tell them "I was bold, meaning I'm entitled to that edit" – you'd give them the rationale that you started out with, and try to reach consensus. If your original thinking was merely something like "hmm let me try this *bold* edit out and see if it sticks", then you weren't bold in the right sense. — Alalch Emis (talk) 22:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Alalch Emis - that's a really good add-on response. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:00, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Can someone take a look at this, full of red links with no RS

List of Brahmin dynasties and states I'd like to report this article for having no WP:RS but the page as been protected. I think someone is acting not in good faith as the into reads like a total shill. I'm new to wiki and I'm learning how to do things slowly.22:31, 26 June 2021 (UTC) Rammuni BadaUdasin (talk) 22:31, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Rammuni BadaUdasin: Another editor has started some cleanup on the article. You can continue the conversation on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 00:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Does it hurt to get more eyes on a subject? Rammuni BadaUdasin (talk) 04:59, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Does this article have a problem?

Does this article have a problem? Today (American TV program) ItsJustdancefan (talk) 01:37, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

@ItsJustdancefan: Nothing that jumps out. It's rated B-class which is pretty good. Is there a specific concern you have? You can start a discussion on that article's talk page if you see a problem or have suggestions to improve it. RudolfRed (talk) 01:46, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Am I Missing Anything?

My previous submission was declined for improperly citing sources. I was wondering if I am missing anything to get the page created?

Thanks!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:CUBANARAMA Cubanarama (talk) 02:44, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Copyright tag

Let's just say I want to upload a screen capture of an extract taken from one of these affidavits at the following link. What would be the correct copyright tag to use?

http://wiki.prov.vic.gov.au/index.php/Eureka_Stockade:Depositions_VPRS_5527/P_Unit_2,_Item_9 Robbiegibbons (talk) 02:51, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Based on their website, these are PD if they're from the 19th century, as Crown copyright only lasts 50 years from date of creation. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 02:56, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Creating a english wikipedia page

Can we create an English Wikipedia page, if the original wiki-page is in some foreign language by using references from that foreign language? Also can I directly translate the page using google translate if I don't know the other language and use the references from the original wikipage? Eevee01 (talk) 03:47, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

@Eevee01: Welcome to the Teahouse. Although English sources are preferred, you may use sources that are not in English so long as they're considered reliable. Note that policies and guidelines differ across Wikipedia projects, so what may be considered reliable in the other language may not be so on here, and not all content can be copied over. Wikipedia also strongly discourages the use of machine translations, so it's best to rely on someone who is a native speaker.

Also, who's we? Just a reminder that a Wikipedia account should only be operated by one person. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:25, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Why my content is deleted

I tried to make a page on Wikipedia , which is true , author of books is mentioned , and shows at hindi film industry , what was the problem , why you have deleted the page ,

That page was not meant for promotions , the page contains the work of the person , which is only 20 percent mentioned there

I mean why the person have done so much work in industry , don’t have right to have a page in Wikipedia ,

Please explain me why ? 113.19.14.95 (talk) 05:18, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

please recheck my page

page created of the person are all true and not for promotion work the content added of the person is only 20 percent of the work in hindi film industry

the person is also author of books , and has worked in hindi film industry since long, do that person dnt deserve a wikipedia page Millidol (talk) 05:25, 27 June 2021 (UTC)