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February 24

The lede

Does the lede section have its own heading? I'm a bit confused. I have written a four-paraghraph section in an article that is meant to be the lede. Shouold it have a heading like "overview" or just go under the page title? Hobig (talk) 00:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It just goes under the page title. Hermione1980 00:04, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. It looks like you've had a confusing start.. (by the way you know that the reason your work-page got confused for a finished article was that you created it at HOBIG/mine rather than at User:HOBIG/mine - you're not the first person to make this mistake.)

If you're interested in mining specifically have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mining - there are "wikiprojects" for all sorts of subjects, and the talk page is a good place to get specific help - (keep coming to this page for more general help though) Often the project talk pages tend to attract chatterboxes but there are usually some helpful people there - see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mining

You can leave a message there when the article is done, more often than not someone else will tidy up any mistakes you have made, and maybe add more info.

Good luck.!FengRail (talk) 00:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:LEAD (or WP:LEDE if you prefer). --Teratornis (talk) 00:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, thanks very much for all your help. Can you tell me if this is the proper way to respond directly to those who have provided help? Hobig (talk) 01:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is good enough. If you want to go into more detail with a particular user, you can respond on their Talk page. --Teratornis (talk) 01:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, when I do that, do I just hit edit on their page, or is there a procedure for opening a new dialogue? Hobig (talk) 01:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You either hit edit and tag a new message to the bottom of the page or use the new section tab to automatically make the new discussion appear at the bottom of the page. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can learn how to communicate with other editors by reading this chapter:

Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Collaborating with Other Editors/Communicating with Your Fellow Editors

Note that everyone who can answer your questions learned most of the answers by reading manuals. The best way to thank them is to read the manuals like they did, so you can pay it forward by helping the next wave of new users. This is how Wikipedia works. --Teratornis (talk) 20:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cinema's Exiles

Did Wikipedia delete the article on the PBS documentary "Cinema's Exiles"? I would have SWORN I looked it up in here a few weeks ago, but it's not there now.

I don't see a deletion log entry by that exact title. Are you sure you have the page name right? Also check your Web browser's history. It might go back a few weeks and let you recall the exact page you viewed before. --Teratornis (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

change e mail address

PLEASE TELL ME HOW I CAN CHANGE MY E MAIL ADDRESS?

If you're referring to the email address used by Wikipedia (if you provided one), simply go the "My Preferences" link at the very top of the page. If you're referring to something outside of Wikipedia, we have no idea. Best, TN X Man 03:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Urantia logo.png

Isn't it PD-textlogo? It has simple geometric symbol and simple text. It seems to be ineligible to be protected by copyright.--Kwj2772 (talk) 02:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to my understanding of Wikipedia policies especially Wikipedia:Logos, would be that while the circles would normally not be considered "Non-free" content... the context (having both the company name and the "circles") would make it a trademark, thus it would be non-free. (Hope that isn't too confusing). NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 00:25, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to handle non-cooperative IP user

Please let me know how to handle this case.

There is an IP user who refuses to adhere to the Chinese Naming Convention in relations to naming. In particular, the naming convention says when the name of the country is used, use "Republic of China" and when the location is used, use "Taiwan".

The edit dispute relates to Developed country and High income economy, when this IP user keeps changing the name of the country to "Taiwan". I have asked this IP user to use edit summary and the related discussion page, but he or she has refused to. This IP user keeps on giving me warnings when I reverted his or her edit.

Can Wikipedia rules be used to resolve this? Can blocking be used on this IP user in this case? If it is possible, what are the warning templates to use? Thank you.--pyl (talk) 04:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

{{uw-3rr}}, WP:3RRN.. Although in most cases IP editors like these are not editing in bad faith, they are just not aware of the policies so unless the editor is being totally non-responsive its best to try and discuss things with them on talk pages first. –Capricorn42 (talk) 04:49, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply.

This IP user is totally non-responsive. I left a message on his talk pages referring to the Chinese Naming Convention. But he still reverted my edit and left warning messages. Please see User_talk:211.179.112.158. As you can see, this user has a series of warning messages from a number of other editors.

Are there any other things I can do other than the 3-rr rule? Does his behaviour constitute vandalism or removal of content? Is it possible to get an administrator to leave a message on his talk page and ask him to use talk / discussion / edit summary? Thank you again.--pyl (talk) 04:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently this is not vandalism but a content dispute. You can get quick administrative attention at WP:ANI or WP:3RRN–Capricorn42 (talk) 05:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The naming convention doesn't say editors are forbidden to use the term Taiwan. In fact, it says the term is often more accurate and Republic of China has a note at the top saying: "The Republic of China was commonly known as "China" or "Nationalist China" until the 1970s when it has since been commonly known as "Taiwan"." In light of the higher 'use the most common name' policy, I don't see any violations here except perhaps 3RR but they'd have to be told about its existence too. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:43, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is a convention, which means users *should* stick with it. What you are doing is exactly the type of discussion that I would like to be involved with the anonymous IP user, which he has so far refused to do.--pyl (talk) 05:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think I will refer this matter to the administrator's notice board and see if they can do something about this.--pyl (talk) 05:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article Merger/Starting a new project

Hello wikipedia! I am a student currently enrolled in a Pharm. D. program wishing to contribute to an article on wikipedia. The article is Antibiotic. I have also noticed that there is an article entitled Antimicrobial. Both of these articles contain similar information. I have seen article merger suggestions attached to wikipedia pages in the past. That might be the best thing to do here. The problem is the classification/definition of these title articles are confused. Currently wikipedia lists antibiotics as a subset of antimicrobials. This is not the case. They are separate entities under a broader classification, Chemotherapeutic Agents. This is a common misconception, and I think it should be correctly distinguished. I have some free time for a few days and would like to do some work on them. So this might also be a good time to ask another question. Can I start a project to revamp these articles, maybe list some goals? Thanks for the help--Mrdeath5493 (talk) 05:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You'd need sources to back up the idea the definition isn't correct. I wouldn't support a merger. Both articles are already large enough on their own and merging them would cause unneccesary bloat. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:34, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Since you are suggesting big changes I suggest you discuss them first on the article talk pages and with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Microbiology. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:36, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources won't be a problem. --Mrdeath5493 (talk) 06:34, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I spent a few hours trying to reword the Antibiotic intro, and now I'm confused. It is truly difficult to arrange all that information in a clear manner. --Mrdeath5493 (talk) 07:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

":::*Try using a userpage subpage. That way you can work on it without any problems. That way you can work on it without leaving half-finished work lying around in articlespace. - 131.211.210.209 (talk) 08:36, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Release Item to "Public"

Hi there !

I have constructed a page "MrChrisShaw" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keakea123

It is acessable to others thru that link,

 but what else do I need to do please to have it "public"
 so that anyone doing a Search on "Chris Shaw" would have it show up ?

Regards, Frank Keakea123 (talk) 07:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Answering on talk page. - 131.211.210.209 (talk) 08:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

I've tried searching all over this and haven't found an answer, so I thought I'd ask. If you see certain users who are repeatedly vandalising pages, such as Kingsofshuffling12 (I've now undone all his vandalism), how can you block them, or at least request that they are blocked so they cannot cause more damage? Thanks. Ste900R (talk) 07:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Just to make it clear, he has been warned twice on his talk page, and the contents of his edits are truely in bad faith. Ste900R (talk) 07:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AIV is the place. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chandigarn open arm monument 23.02.09

wikipedia do you know whom we can get intouch with, if we need to get permision to use the Chandigarn Monument jpg. If you have any idea kindly send me the link or phone number, email address and we will greatly appreciate. The organization which i work for has to get the permission directly from the individual copyright holder or company in written form for the right attribution. i will greatly appreciate you help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.9.197.28 (talk) 07:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The question has been answered earlier - here and here. Jay (talk) 08:47, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

no cross, no crown.

WHat does it mean? Does "cross" mean tough things that we have to experience, and "Crown" mean the fruit that we can get. No cross, no crown means that if we don't experience tought time and try hard, we cannot be successful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stone86326 (talk • contribs) 08:12, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Language section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unknown File Type

When I click on wikipedia links ... instead of opening, IE brings up a save file box .... for file type 'unknown' Even if I save it, the link still does not open.

For example ... search Google for Leslie Bevis .. It returns the Wikipedia link ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Bevis

But if you click on it, all I get is 'file save dialogue'

It's the same if I type ... Leslie Bevis in the search box within Wikipedia.

This happens on many searches, just using this as a 100% repeatable example.

I am running XP with IE 7.0

Sargan99 (talk) 11:14, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please check your Wikipedia preferences (Editing section) and check if "Use external editor by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer)" and "Use external diff by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer)" are switched off. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:29, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That is often the solution to another problem which mentions the file index.php. For your type of problem, somebody said it could help to select "No preference" under the Date and time tab at Special:Preferences. Or does it help to manually add a '?' character to the end of the url? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked ... "Use external editor" and "Use external diff" are both off ... interesting that the exmple link I gave above does work when I click it .. but not when returned in Search .. Wiki or Google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sargan99 (talk • contribs) 12:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to ask a question concerning the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act on that page, how to?

The information on the page concerning the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act does not include the statues of limitations. I would like to have those that have contributed to include this information. The page tells how they may collect but not how long they have before they may not come after the debt at all and thats what I need to know. How do I ask this? Do I ask on the page or somewhere else in Wikipedia? Robmar6148 (talk) 11:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)robmar6148[reply]

If you would like to include the information in the article, I suggest starting a discussion on the article's talk page. If you're simply looking for the answer to your question, you may want to try the reference desk (possibly the miscellaneous section?), where they answer specific knowledge questions like yours. Best, TN X Man 11:29, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

LANGUAGE

DO YOU HAVE TOPICS IN AFRIKAANS?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.145.30.84 (talk) 13:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Afrikaans Wikipedia is at http://af.wikipedia.org PrimeHunter (talk) 13:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing Press Releases not on the web?

How do I reference articles etc that are not available on-line? —Preceding unsigned comment added by IrishTV (talk • contribs) 13:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It depends. You can use {{cite book}}, {{cite journal}}, or various other methods of citing print releases. However, you may want to check out the reliable sources guide first to see what Wikipedia looks for in a source. TN X Man 13:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

or even Template:Cite press release - there's a list at Wikipedia:Citation templates FengRail (talk) 15:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it's not online just leave the "URL" part blank - it's optional.FengRail (talk) 15:30, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

opening a file

nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_(elektronica)

Hi, I looked for "bus", found the one i need ( in dutch) between several other meanings of "bus" but then when i click on that link, it says i need to save a file ....??? So i do, but then since the type is unknown, i cant open that file.... Whats going on? Do i really need to save the page i want to see? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.248.22.6 (talk) 14:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This usually happens when you attempt to edit a page, but have "Use external editor by default" enabled in "My preferences" (link at the top of the page). Uncheck that box and see if that fixes your issue. TN X Man 14:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Creating A New Page [HELP!]

hello,

i have been trying to make a page for ages now (about a week) and cant work out how to make a page go live...

i created the entire page in my sandbox, and entered the code to get it reviewed, but was told it need to be moved to a pages for submission section. when i click the button to do so, it doesn't allow me...

also i want to name the page, how do i do so? as at the moment it is still my username.

i would also like to add categories so that people can find it.

i know wikipedia is supposed to be detailed and stuff, but i do find your help pages in trying to make a page somewhat confusing, and there's too many pages showing different things. i think a 'dummies guide to wikipedia' needs to be made!

thanks for reading and look forward to hearing from you.

Stuart

Stuoccupier (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved User:Stuoccupier/Sandbox to Nemhain (band). --Orange Mike | Talk 15:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For future reference, I hear Wikipedia: The Missing Manual is a good place to start. Hermione1980 16:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thanks very much, just adding a few changes now and will then post it for review. many thanks! Stuoccupier (talk) 17:14, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In particular, read this:

Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Editing, Creating, and Maintaining Articles/Creating a New Article

--Teratornis (talk) 19:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SVG not showing

I just uploaded File:WandJlogo.svg, and I can't seem to get it to show up correctly. The image thumbnail just shows up as text saying "File:WandJlogo.svg." If you click it, you can see the image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/WandJlogo.svg). Is this just processing or something? Or did I save it incorrectly? --Jwilkinsen (talk) 16:07, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

Display fixed by User:AnonMoos. NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 22:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

dissertations

an evaluation of pricing decesions in small manufacturing enterprises —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.74.239.30 (talk) 16:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you're asking. However, it seems that you may want to ask at the reference desk, where they answer specific knowledge questions. This desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. TN X Man 16:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

chemistry

How does metals have low characteristics in order? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yuvhacker (talk • contribs) 16:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you're asking. However, you may find the answer you need in our articles on Metals, Chemistry, or the Periodic table. If you have further questions, try our Science reference desk, where they deal with specific knowledge questions. TN X Man 16:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox pictures

I recently added a picture to the wiki page of the National Jewish Democratic Council. For some reason, on top of the image it says "image" and on bottom it says "200px." I thought I had followed the directions correctly but I must be making a mistake. Any advice on this issue would be very helpful. Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.231.91 (talk) 16:52, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done - you don't need the Image: prefix or the square brackets. There is no consistency among ibox templates unfortunately - some require the prefix, some the prefix and brackets, some neither... – ukexpat (talk) 16:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(after two edit conflicts) I have fixed the image for you - take a look here to see how [1]. DuncanHill (talk) 16:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question put on discussion page of List of statues by height never answered

I wonder: who reads the discussion pages of single articles? I put about 2 weeks ago this question:

I have some doubts about the location of the Spring Temple Buddha (no.1 in world's tallest statues). Perhaps there was confusion between Lushan, in the province of Henan, and Lu shan (= Mount Lu in chinese), in the Jiangxi Province. The page http://zhai.fosss.org/goto_zy.asp?id=5421 should tell the exact location, but who knows chinese??.

This matter should be verified by someone, the two locations are quite far from each other too. Greetings, --Gabodon (talk) 17:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can estimate the readership of a talk page by noting the frequency of edits to it. More people will usually look at a page than will edit it, although for talk pages the reader-to-editor ratio may be lower than for articles. If a talk page gets a lot of edits, like this one: Talk:Barack Obama (even before I bother to look, I know that page will be busy, and what do you know, it has 51 archive pages), then the page probably gets even more readers. Page views on Wikipedia follow a Pareto distribution: a few pages get enormous numbers of views, some pages get quite a few views, and most pages get few views. Talk:List of statues by height shows a modest level of editing activity, and a correspondingly modest number of views. Another factor is what fraction of readers might have an interest in a particular topic. Your question is somewhat specialized; given the grab-bag nature of a list article, possibly only a small fraction of people who have interest in some statue on the list would be interested in a particular statue on the list. Given that the talk page in question appears to get only on the order of 30 views per month, that's not a large pool of distinct users. You might have better luck if you track down the editor(s) (perhaps by using WikiBlame) who made the edit(s) you want to change, and ask them on their user talk pages. --Teratornis (talk) 21:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Who knows Chinese? Google sort of does. --Teratornis (talk) 21:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do I direct someone to another page by clicking on an image (versus clicking on text)?

How do I direct someone to another page by clicking on an image (versus clicking on text)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.29.43.1 (talk) 17:57, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Add the code {{click|link=article|image=image|width=15px|height=15px|title=Title.}}, filling in the article, image and title.

The code

{{click|link=Bohemian Rhapsody|image=Symbol support vote.svg|width=15px|height=15px|title=This user helped make Bohemian Rhapsody a Good Article.}}

shows up as

. Queenie ^Talk 18:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The HTML equivalent is the <imagemap> family. —The ed17 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

<imagemap> is not standard HTML, it is a MediaWik extension; see mw:Extension:ImageMap. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect heading on Page

THe page entitled "Ohio Wesleyan Arts Castle" misrepresents our organization, The Delaware County Cultural Arts Center, as officially associated with Ohio Wesleyan University. We are an independent, non-profit arts organization with no ties to OWU. The title of the page should read "The Arts Castle" .

Thank you for your assistance. Kevin L. Greenwood Executive Director Delaware County Cultural Arts Center 190 West Winter Street Delaware, OH 43015 <e-mail and phone # redacted> —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArtsCastleED (talk • contribs) 19:36, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will move the article to The Arts Castle. – ukexpat (talk) 20:05, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. – ukexpat (talk) 20:07, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HELP! Please rename this image

I just posted File:AHP Hierarchy01 w-Priorities.png and used it once. I mistakenly included two spaces in the filename. The spaces mess up a coordinated file name scheme, so I want to remove them. I don't know how to rename an image file, so I need somebody's help. No redirect page is needed, provided I learn about the change so I can fix the single occurrence of the old name. Thanks in advance for your help. Lou Sander (talk) 20:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The easiest thing to do is reupload it with the correct file name then tag the old one for deletion with {{db-author}}. – ukexpat (talk) 20:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New double redirect feature

Hey I noticed that double redirects now act like regular redirects ([2]). When was this implemented and could you link me to the relevant discussion? Just curious, thanks a million!--Patton^t/c 21:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the link to the Village Pump thread. Best, TN X Man 21:41, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Appeal against a claim of vandalism

I am not a regular Wikipedia editor, often just adding a link or correcting a spelling. I added an (admittedly unsubstantiated) sentence or two to an article. I was reported for vandalism. However, I immediately logged on to Google, found 3 references that backed my edits (not the best sources, perhaps, but newspapers, nevertheless). I consider that, at the very least, I could be accused of an over-trivial and even perhaps impolite edit - but not of vandalism. I would like to appeal the charge and perhaps have the vandalism reduced to some lesser "crime" - eg a good faith edit. How should I do this? Professor J Lawrence (talk) 21:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you've tried talking to the admin who issued the warning, and he responded very rudely and not in the least constructively. I suggest blanking the warning from your talk page, and ignoring such bitey and unproductive editors in future. DuncanHill (talk) 21:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your prompt reply - and maybe I was silly and maybe hasty and maybe a little ignorant of procedure - but is it possible to get the vandalism charge overturned? As I said, i am not a real editor in any sense of the word, generally just correcting spelling, grammar or adding a Wikipedia link or two (eg on the Cream article, making Ginger Baker a link, or in the Fall of France article making Stuka a link ). I do admit my Beckham insert was not substantiated and I do not really want to reinsert it (or get into trouble) - but I would like my name cleared....Any advice gratefully received... Professor J Lawrence (talk) 22:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unless the editor who issued the warning agrees to remove it, then not really, but you are entitled to remove it from your page, and if anyone refers to it again, just point them to the facts and your attempts to correct it, and any reasonable person would understand. DuncanHill (talk) 22:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have refactored my warning from a {{uw-biog3}} to a {{uw-biog1}} and apologised to the user. --Rodhull andemu 22:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Professor Lawrence, you are a Wikipedia editor by the only definition we recognize: you clicked on the "edit" button, made a change, and then clicked on the "Save page" button. You have all the rights, privileges, and responsibilities of any Wikipedia editor. There are more than six million of us. While some of us have more experience than others, we are all equally responsible for Wikipedia. A particluar editor made an incorrect assertion of vandalism. That assertion was at best overly harsh. since you ask for your name to be cleared, I, by my authority as a Wikipedia editor and after careful review of your actions, hereby clear you of the charge of vandalism. More realistically, Rodhullandemu responded on you talk page. The only place the "charge" is still recorded is in your talk page history, and that same history records his response. Please do not get discouraged by this incident. we are all volunteers, and we all occasionally make mistakes of the type your accuser made. -Arch dude (talk) 02:20, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Redemption is possible even for admittedly deliberate vandals. Wikipedia has several Foundation issues that go back to the beginning of the project, and have been subject to repeated testing, debate, and analysis over the years. One of the foundation issues is:

Ability of anyone to edit articles without registering

This guiding principle has many consequences, one of which is that many new users make edits they later come to view differently, possibly even with regret. This is one reason why candidates for administratorship should have accumulated a substantial number of edits - because it may take a while for a new user's concept of Wikipedia to "settle down" into the pattern of an established editor. Any experienced Wikipedia editor who evaluates another editor's edit history will expect to see some typical beginner goofs in the earliest edits. Trust me, we've all made some. --Teratornis (talk) 05:24, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Newpages

I was trying to access this and every time I try clicking on it gives me an database error:

“

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

   (SQL query hidden)

from within function "IndexPager::reallyDoQuery (NewPagesPager)". MySQL returned error "1054: Unknown column 'ts_tags' in 'field list' (10.0.6.24)".

”

I don't think that I can fix this (maybe an administrator can?) so... NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 22:32, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bug, which is now fixed. GARDEN 22:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

February 25

Augmentation to article: People's Park

The last section of the article, I feel, is absolutely unfair to the people who call this place home. I wanted to add the following but could not, can you please tell me exactly how it is unacceptable so that I can tweak it. It isn't exactly neutral, but that IS the point--I wouldn't call the rest of the article exactly neutral anyway...

“

-

While the infamy of the park is well known, those willing to experience it first-hand and suspend prejudice will find a close community of neighbors (street people that is) unlike any other in Berkeley.

- - Living half a block from the park on Regent st., my car has been broken into twice, the homeless shoot up in the empty backyard near mine, and I get hit up for cigarettes and cash on an hourly basis.

- - It's frustrating, yes; but on the other hand, my non-transient neighbors (who honestly spend most of their time maybe hundreds of feet away from me) don't know my name and will not respond when I greet them. Conversely, there are street people (whom I've known only months) who would gladly give me whatever they own if I needed it--even their lives.

- - I'm not even among their ranks.

- - There are lot of gifted Cal students, but most of them are sheltered. Getting their stereo stolen might just be the best thing to ever happen to students who intend to be something resembling an adult by the time they leave Cal.

- - The dream of the People's Park is quite alive; it's a shelter from the storm. It's a safe place where you can be different without schoolyard-like ridicule for crazy clothes and hair (or just plain craziness), where people who just want to get drunk and compose poetry li-po style do so. Most impressively, it's a place where rules and material goods aren't nearly as important as people and friendship.

”

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.152.166.74 (talk)

I suggest you read Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, as from my analysis none of the material seems to be able to be integrated into the article as they are just your personal opinion on the subject. In order for content to be added to Wikipedia, it should be verifiable and based on reliable sources. Unless you can find some reliable sources that say this, the content cannot be added. NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 00:15, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also read WP:PEACOCK. And this is a dangling modifier:

"Living half a block from the park on Regent st., my car has been broken into twice"

because it parses as if your car is living half a block from the park. The only living cars are fictional. --Teratornis (talk) 05:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You might also find it helpful to read WP:Writing better articles, especially the paragraph about tone. Content written in the first person, expressing personal opinions about the subject, is not encyclopaedic and is liable to be removed pretty quickly. Ka renjc 14:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

burningadvdvialaptop

my toshiba laptop assures me it is capable of burning dvds but i cannot figure out how.CAN YOU HELP ME PLEASE.sammymac —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.194.67.212 (talk) 00:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 01:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 01:01, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

didn't see a post over there - was gonna say look for a Nero, or Roxio folder; unless we're talking about ripping - that's a whole different thread. — Ched (talk) 02:33, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

wikimedia commons account mysteriously created automatically

I'd been using wikipedia recently with this account (user:thegoodearth).

At some point, I was browsing wikimedia commons, and soon thereafter I see one of those messages notifying me that someone has written in my user talk. I assume they wrote to my IP, because I never signed up for a wikimedia commons account.

Strangely enough, I click on the message, and realize that I do have a wikimedia commons account with the same username as my wikipedia account. It was the talk page of my wikimedia commons account that someone wrote a welcome message. According to my commons user log, my account was "created automatically" the same minute that I received the message.

Why did this happen? Do wikipedia users who browser wikimedia commons get automatically created accounts there?

--Thegoodearth (talk) 01:22, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your account on commons was automatically created as part of a process known as "single user login", which basically creates accounts at different wikis based on your user name (thus you don't have to sign up at commons/meta/etc when you want to make an edit there. See this page for more details. NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 01:39, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did I trigger this to happen by doing something? If not, why did it happen when it did? --Thegoodearth (talk) 01:02, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you've gone to Special:MergeAccount in the past, then accounts are automatically created whenever you visit another Wikimedia site, like the German Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. It's quite easy to visit other sites accidentally - I've somehow managed to create 24 accounts on projects ranging from the English Wikisource to the Kölsch Wikipedia - and there isn't any harm done if you choose not to use your automatically created account. Xenon54 (talk) 01:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use

Can a historical image of a currently standing building qualify under WP:NFCC #1? A free photo can be taken, but not one that portrays what the historical image may. Grsz¹¹ 04:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it can qualify under WP:NFCC#1, but it also has to qualify under WP:NFCC#8: Seeing the historic appearance of the building must significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic. —teb728 t c 04:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the historical photo can show, for example, architectural elements which are no longer present on the building, AND such elements were important to the building, such that external reliable sources say so, then the picture may be claimed under fair use, since such elements no longer exist at the building. If, however, the picture is simply there to show "Hey, here's what the building looked like in 1965" and the building has not significantly changed since 1965, or any changes made are not significant enough to have been discussed, then it probably cannot be claimed under fair use. The key is that the older, copyright picture has to be vitally important to illustrate or understand something specificly mentioned in the article, not just "Hey, here's another pic of the building". If you are just showing the building in general, then a new picture should be taken and appropriately liscensed. This is at least my understanding. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:44, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What about these examples: File:Idlewild Depot.jpg and File:Idlewild Carousel.jpg show the historic appearance of these two buildings, the surrounding significantly different from that of today. Idlewild Depot shows the building as a functioning as a railroad station, which it does not do anymore. It was the smallest full-service station in the country. Grsz¹¹ 04:42, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See above. It is my understanding that if that role of the building is specifically discussed and referenced to reliable sources, and the role is clear in the old pic, but it would be impossible to take a picture of the building in its old role, since it no longer serves that purpose, than this could be claimed as "fair use" so long as such information is CLEARLY described in the fair use rationale. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:46, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I looked at your pictures, those two pictures are in the Public domain, and as such, are actually free to use for any purpose. There is no need for a "fair use rationale" as their use is completely open and free at Wikipedia. It is not necessary to invoke fair use in their use. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:48, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your image, File:Idlewild depot.jpg, looks identical to the Commons image, File:Idlewild Depot.jpg. If you were aware of the Commons image, I don’t understand why you uploaded yours. The Commons image is tagged PD presumably because it was published before 1923. If there were some point in retaining your image, it could also be tagged {{PD-US}}, assuming the Commons image is correctly tagged. —teb728 t c 01:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category problem

MURGH ^disc. wants to know why Odyssey (and others) "shows up in Category:External link templates? I can't see it, can it be hidden in some way, or spillage from another included template?" Clarityfiend (talk) 06:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Link - and yes, it should be able to be hidden, I presume? - jc37 07:21, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

{{Link}} is fine. {{Perseus}} was to blame. Should be fine now. Algebraist 09:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Zachary Turner hi-jacked

I consider that this fact-based article Zachary Turner which I wrote was hi-jacked and turned into an ad for a film and a book. My "requested move" tag gets removed. Please see the talk page Talk:Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father. I don't know how to get admin intervention to settle the dispute. Can someone help to get this resolved and settle it? Please? JohnClarknew (talk) 08:04, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is this baby known for anything else than the documentary he appeared in? It all seems related so covering this under WP:ONEEVENT seems reasonable. - 131.211.210.209 (talk) 08:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The baby is known for many events. For being walked into the sea and drowned by his mother, who then drowned herself. For being the center of an international dispute between Canadian and U.S. extradition procedures. For his mother murdering his father in the U.S. and escaping trial in the States while Canadian authorities protected her and allowed her to walk free. I'm sure others will write books and make movies about this extraordinary story with differing points of view, while the legal procedures attached to these events will have far-reaching consequences. The baby was the victim of others people's ambitions, and the hero and center-piece of his own story. JohnClarknew (talk) 18:30, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The mother should be the subject of the article - she is the alleged perpetrator and the subject of the extradition proceedings. – ukexpat (talk) 18:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would have no problem with that as a solution. I just want to get the page away from any commercial interest. Would someone make that change? It should not be me. JohnClarknew (talk) 19:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Licensing tags?

Hi,

This is my first article on Wikipedia (love it) and am not sure which licence I need to choose for the book cover image I want to upload. I am the author, and publisher has given permission to us the image. I am currently up to page: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload. Which license should I choose? I believe it comes under the fair usage catagory. Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkneed (talk • contribs) 10:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia. Because the image is not free (can't be reused by others), it does fall under fair use. Good job figuring that one out! However, fair use images are not allowed on Wikimedia commons, they're only permitted on Wikipedia. Therefore, you should upload your book cover at Wikipedia:Upload, and choose the "A cover or other page from a book, DVD, newspaper, magazine, or other such source". Once on that page, fill in the summary according to Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline and choose the licensing "book cover". Also add the line {{Non-free with permission}} to show the copyright holder has given permission for the image to be used on Wikipedia.
I understand this might be all a bit frustrating, please don't hestitate to ask for any additional help! Puchiko (Talk-email) 11:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

May also be a good idea to e-mail OTRS as set out at WP:IOWN so that the OTRS can confirm that you are indeed who you say you are (we have no way of knowing otherwise) and that you have indeed given permission for its use on Wikipedia. – ukexpat (talk) 15:21, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How to nominate multiple articles for deletion

Hello,

I would like to nominate a series of articles for deletion and open a discussion about it so that I can explain my reasons. If I just nominate each individual article, the discussion will be spread over tenth of articles so that wouldn't work. So what would be the right way to do that?

Thank you Laurent (talk) 12:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to list multiple related pages for deletion. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright Violation

Where to report it? The article Battle of Monterrey was copy & pasted from here [3]--Tresckow (talk) 14:58, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your vigilance, but Zachary Taylor died in 1850, so the copyright on anything he wrote has long expired. Stifle (talk) 15:04, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think the OP is referring to the content of the website (not Taylor's letter), which does appear to be a pretty blatant copy/paste. However, what I can't determine is which came first: the Wikipedia article or the website. The website indicates a copyright going back to 2005 and the article was created in 2003. TNXMan 15:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To answer the original question though, you can report potential copyright issues at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. TNXMan 15:22, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I ment the homepage. Thanks.--Tresckow (talk) 15:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glitchy Wikias

I just noticed that all of the wikias are not working properly. What's going on with them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.165.177.8 (talk) 16:21, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To which wikias were you referring? Please note that we can only help with Wikimedia projects. For other wikias, you would have to ask them directly. TNXMan 16:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Links to Userpages in mainspace

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What is the Wikipedia rule that a mainspace edit should not link to a Userpage? I know that is the rule, but I can't find the policy or guideline. THF (talk) 16:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:USER under "Copies of other pages": "One should never create links from a mainspace article to any userpage..." Sarcasticidealist (talk) 17:04, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it's simply a redirect, you can tag the page with {{db-r2}}. TNXMan 17:06, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, not a serious issue. I made the assertion on WP:COIN, and someone challenged me on it, and I didn't find the answer immediately in WP:USER. Thanks, SI. THF (talk) 17:13, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Finding information on Woman's Guide to Management Success

I am hoping you would be able to help me or guide me on how to find more information on "woman's guide to management success?" Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.166.101.68 (talk) 17:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is Amazon link to the book you mentioned. I hope this has the info you need. TNXMan 18:16, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template Troubles

Hello, I'm trying to modify this template, which I've copied from a similar one for American schools. What I'd like to do is separate the Canadian and World references with a line and a title (the Canadian section saying "Canadian" and the world section saying "World" or something along those lines). I've been messing with it for a while but can't figure it out... Could anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, TastyCakes (talk) 17:50, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, it would be easier to start from scratch and use {{infobox}}. I know some folks hate meta-templatea, but they make it very easy for non-coders to maintain. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 18:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm so I put the infobox template in my other template? TastyCakes (talk) 18:15, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I started this for you at Template:Canadian university rankings/sandbox. Note that the {{template reflist}} is not part of the infobox— it keeps the references included in the infobox from generating a cite error.

Ok, thank you very much, I think that will work well. TastyCakes (talk) 20:27, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I note one small problem I don't know how to fix... Using this method, it seems the references from the template show up in the article whether or not anything is entered for that section (eg "Maclean's Undergrad" does not apply in University of British Columbia but the reference for it still shows up in the article's reflist). Do you know a way to fix that? Thanks again. TastyCakes (talk) 20:57, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused. If you don't have an entry, the label won't show. If you do, then don't you want the reference? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:08, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The label doesn't show, but the reference in that label does. For example, at the UBC article in the reflist at the bottom, try clicking the up arrow on reference 29... TastyCakes (talk) 21:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah... interesting. Even though the ref is part of the label that should not show, the parser is picking it up. We are going to have to use a conditional here:

labelⁿ= {{#if: {{{dataⁿ|}}} |labelⁿname<ref>content</ref>}}

This says that if dataⁿ is non-empty, then use the label, else use a null. I did the first three for you. Need to document this somewhere. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:28, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And you will need to delete the<includeonly>|</includeonly> from the data tags; we will fix this on the doc page so we can see them. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:35, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've deleted the <includeonly>|</includeonly> tags and now they're invisible in the template. Does that command tell it to just display in the template view, not the pages that use it? And I'm not sure how to document this like you suggest... Thanks again for doing this, I think it more or less works now :)TastyCakes (talk) 23:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and already done. I added the whole template using non-breaking spaces as the parameter values. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 01:49, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Remove user and user-talk pages

Hello. I'm looking for information on how to disappear from Wikipedia. I have an account that I'd like to make as non-existent as possible. I've used the search function and can't locate the information that I have previously seen about the "right to disappear". Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.235.61 (talk) 19:19, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RTV is probably what you're looking for. --Onorem ♠Dil 19:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How to merge two articles

So, I am trying to figure out how to merge two articles, because they have the same subject, or at least turn one into a redirect to the other. The articles are Lord John Marbury (The West Wing) and Lord John Marbury. How do I do this? Huadpe (talk) 20:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pick one to the main article (I suggest Lord John Marbury (The West Wing)) and copy over any pertinent info from the article to be deleted. Then, edit the article to be deleted and change it to just #REDIRECT Lord John Marbury (The West Wing). -- kainaw ™ 20:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lord John Marbury is the more complete article, so I have redirected Lord John Marbury (The West Wing) to it. – ukexpat (talk) 21:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See also Help:Merging and moving pages for how to propose and perform mergers. Lord John Marbury (The West Wing) was about an episode and Lord John Marbury is about a character occurring in both that episode and 4 others linked at Lord John Marbury#Episodes featuring Lord John Marbury. It appears each episode has its own article so it's possible some editors of The West Wing articles will object to redirecting an episode article to a character article. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template for IPs registered to schools

Do you have to be an admin to use the {{SharedIPEDU}} template on an IP address you believe to be registered to a school? And is who is an accurate website to know which IP is registered where? --Whip it! ^{Now whip it good!} 21:15, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(a) No. (b) For these purposes, yes. Bencherlite ^Talk 21:19, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Text Problem

Resolved

– ukexpat (talk) 01:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do you centrally align text can anyone help? L07ChLeo3 (talk) 21:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

<center>yourtexthere</center> – ukexpat (talk) 21:58, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thanks. 22:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Another Problem; how do you make text larger in size? L07ChLeo3 (talk) 22:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

text Xenon54 (talk) 22:31, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) Use the large tags <big>text</big> would result in text - but don't over use this one. ;) — Ched (talk) 22:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks to everyone you all have been a big help :). L07ChLeo3 (talk) 22:44, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reposting revised content for deleted article

I have created an article for AMAX Information Technologies a few days ago but it was under a speedy deletion due to a user noting that it contains blatant advertising. I've done some more research and made a revision of the article I've created on my user subpage. Would it be safe to add the newer content to the original title of the page and see if an admin would approve for the article to stay up? What would be the best method to make sure that the material is reliable to be on Wikipedia? Amaxhelen (talk) 22:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IMHO it still reads like a press release and the mentions in the references do not amount to the "significant coverage" required to establish notability. Suggest you take a look at WP:CORP, WP:RS and WP:Spam. Your user name is also probably in violation of the user name policy. – ukexpat (talk) 22:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I concur with all of ukexpat's comments. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image of a politician

What is the correct license for a photo of a state politician? The photo is a work of a state government. Because the photo is also included in a press packet, could I use {{non-free promotional}}? --Longhornsg (talk) 22:51, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the politician is still alive, it is virtually certain a free replacement is possible; so a non-free image is unusable. —teb728 t c 23:50, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note that per, Wikipedia:Copyrights: "most state and local governments in the United States do not place their work into the public domain and do in fact own the copyright to their work." And from Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright: "Most state governments retain the copyright on their work (California being a notable exception)", so if in fact the photograph is state government owned, this does not necessarily mean it is free.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do I format a bullet-list into multiple columns?

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How do I format a bullet-list into multiple columns to reduce whitespace? THF (talk) 23:31, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Example 1:

•Item 1	•Item 2
•Item 3	•Item 4
•Item 5	•Item 6

Example 2:

•Item 1	•Item 2	•Item 3
•Item 4	•Item 5	•Item 6
•Item 7	•Item 8	•Item 9

--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Try {{column}}. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also {{multicol}}. — Athaenara ✉ 02:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

{{multicol}} is exactly the idiot-proof thing I was looking for. Many thanks. THF (talk) 03:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate file names

I'm trying to add this image to an article, but apparently there's a Wikipedia file with the same name. So now the Rosedale sign is what shows up. How do I link the Commons image instead? APK How you durrin? 23:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The correct course of action is to reupload one or both images with a more specific file name so such clashes are unlikely to happen again. Make sure to include all the file and edit history for the image and the image page in the new page before asking for the deletion of the old one (and point the already linked pages to the new name) If you don't know how to properly reupload, I recommend you ask the original uploader to do it if they're still around. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:38, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. APK How you durrin? 23:44, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See also Help:Images and other uploaded files#File name. The Wikipedia image was uploaded first and is used in two articles so you should upload another name at Commons. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting an external link to a locked page

The "DTV transition in the United States" page is locked, and I want to request an external link. I found a site that offers a free, informative guide of the DTV transition and a coupon exchange program that connects people who have extra government coupons to those who need them. I myself participated in this program and found it really helpful (since the Dept. of Commerce ran out of money and now there's a huge waiting list for the DTV coupons). This is the link: <retrevo.com/dtv>. There are millions out there who still need to make the transition and its cool that there's a program that provides the opportunity for people to help one another in a simple yet significant manner.

Also, sorry if this question has already been asked/answered. I can't seem to find the solution... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.146.69.246 (talk) 23:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As nearly as I can tell, it is protected only against page moves. You should be able to edit it yourself. —teb728 t c 00:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The edit protection of DTV transition in the United States was removed a week ago so you should be able to edit it, for example by clicking the edit link at the External links section. The page is only move protected currently. I don't know whether your link conforms to Wikipedia:External links. You could suggest the link first at Talk:DTV transition in the United States. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

account creator

What are the guidelines for being given access into the account creation interface thingy? I requested access a while back, but got de-nied. Are there any special requirements for that? flaming lawyer 23:48, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You need to be an admin. (I assume you're talking about the "Interface administrator" section at the bottom of WP:ACC/G.) Xenon54 (talk) 01:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You need to be an interface admin to grant user accounts, but not to join the interface. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 01:22, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, actually I was talking about the "registering for use" section at the top of the page. flaming lawyer 02:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

February 26

Creating a wiki page for my band

Can I create my own wiki page for my band? I have tried to do it twice before but I've been told that there is a conflict of interest as a I am part of the band. Does someone other than a band HAVE to create the page? I also used info from our band's websites in my initial attempts and the info was deleted due to copyright issues. Help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Herecomethebirds (talk • contribs) 00:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1. Does your band meet the criteria listed at WP:BAND? If not, it shouldn't have an article on Wikipedia.

2. As long as you write in an unbiased way about your band, you shouldn't have any issues with NPOV (conflict of interest). flaming lawyer 00:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) Creating articles about yourself or organizations you are associated with is strongly discouraged because of conflict of interest, which is likely to violate the neutrality of the article. Also, the subject must be notable enough to have an article (in this case, the guideline is WP:BAND). The information must be verifiable through reliable sources as well. If your band qualifies the criteria at WP:BAND, then it would be OK to create an article about it. However, if you don't want to create it because of the conflict of interest, I suggest you put a request for the article here or ask someone else to create it. Cheers. Chamal ^talk 00:31, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you probably tried to create an article rather than a wiki. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spam filter notice

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I have been working on Frankie Rayder, an article that uses http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com links. However, I am trying to create an article for her sister and am getting

Spam filter notice From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search

The spam filter blocked your page save because it detected a blacklisted hyperlink. You will need to remove any instance of the blacklisted link in your text addition before you can save the page. Blacklists are maintained both locally and globally. Before proceeding, please review both lists to determine which one (or both) are affecting you. You can request help removing the link, request that the link be removed from the blacklist, or report a possible error on the local or global spam blacklist talk page. If you'd like to request that a specific link be allowed without removing similar links from the blacklist, you can request whitelisting on the local spam whitelist talk page.

The following link has triggered our spam protection filter: http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com Either that exact link, or a portion of it (typically the root domain name) is currently blacklisted.

Why can I use this link in one article and not the other.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:07, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm seeing multiple entries in the whitelist talk page all of a sudden - got to be a server glitch somewhere. — Ched (talk) 02:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is the whitelist talk page?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:30, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

here - but mIRC says apparently admins are working on a blacklist problem now. So, I guess the people who need to know about the problem do. ;) — Ched (talk) 02:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. I have been able to create Missy Rayder so my problem is solved.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question on the font style for every page.

We have been using Wikipedia for quite some time (and love it) but we searched for something just recently and the instead of the normal font, we are seeing an italicized script font... everywhere. Is there something that we changed or touched or was there some kind of change on your end that we are not aware of? Is anyone else having this problem?? <e-mail address redacted>—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.237.11 (talk) 04:24, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen this happen a few times, it's usually when the last editor doesn't close his formats correctly. Normally, the next editor will fix that when he or she sees it. Refresh in a couple minutes and it's normally fine. If there's a particular page you're interested in, post the link, and I'll take a look.

It is also possible you changed your default font settings in your browser. If you post what kind of operating system, and browser you're using - we might be able to help there as well. For example, Firefox 3.x - you would look in Tools, Options, and the Content tab. — Ched (talk) 05:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wish to create an atrical on "Foxen"

Hi,

I wish to create an article on Foxen and think for searching there use to be one (not by me) and it was deleted.

Before I go to the hard work of creating it I wanted to check if and/or why the last one was deleted and if you think it meets the criteria to be an article.

"Foxen" refers to the name of a valley in California on the outskirts of a National Forest, as well as a winery and a family name. Does this meet the criteria (which I have read and been left a little confused by)? sources follow: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=Foxen+Canyon+Road,+Santa+Maria,+CA&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=uk&ei=jhCmSdr6DuTSjAe58JTjDw&ll=34.812676,-120.19146&spn=0.182656,0.265045&z=12 , http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Foxen , http://www.foxenvineyard.com/ .

I would like to write just a small amount about each of these to give some presence to the name "Foxen" within wiki.

Kind regards Thomas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Foxandthehen (talk • contribs) 04:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to the deletion log, the article was deleted as "patent nonsense". —teb728 t c 04:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So I should be safe to write my article and it meets the requirements? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Foxandthehen (talk • contribs) 04:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) The prior article was about a nonexistent plural form of the word for

s, so don't worry about that. The three subjects you list are not really unified in any manner that I would think would be a proper subject of a single article. The three sources you list don't really do much to show whether the aricle subjects are notable. We show that by citation to reliable sources; sources that are independent of the subject they are used to verify. So, for example, an article on the winery would be a valid topic if independent and reliable sources, such as newspapers, books, and the like have discussed it substantively, which you can then cite in the article. Please see Wikipedia:Your first article for an overview.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:06, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) Certainly not a single article about all three or even any two. In deciding whether an article would be appropriate for one of the topics, read the notability guideline. Basically for a topic to be notable enough to have an article in Wikipedia, which means it has to have significant coverage in reliable independent published sources. It doesn’t look promising to me. —teb728 t c 05:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

oh dear, ok! I would have though maps would be a good published coverage at least! Well I'm not going to write it with the risk it will get deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Foxandthehen (talk • contribs) 11:06, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help with reverting a undiscussed move over redirect

I think a admin is needed to do such a thing, right? Well... a rather controversial move has been made without a RM or any form of consensus, just a user riding in stating his opinion before executing it. America was moved to America (disambiguous) with the reason: "This article only provides a list of links." — CHAN DLER #10 — 04:51, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done - Fuhghettaboutit fixed it. – ukexpat (talk) 05:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rihanna

Resolved

– Chamal ^talk 11:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

When are you going to change Rihanna's wikipedia page? After she was beaten by her boyfriend, someone posted "Bitch Got Owned" on her page and it has yet to come down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna

It's fixed, but you could have done it yourself. – ukexpat (talk) 05:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well actually, he couldn't, because the page is semi-protected. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The edit was reverted by ClueBot (talk · contribs) in less than a minute. The editor who vandalised the page is now indef blocked from editing. So, some harm done, but not too much I hope. Chamal ^talk 11:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reflist strangeness

I was just randomly browsing around as one does and came across the article Post-rock. It uses the multi-column reference list functionality of {{reflist}} and is set to display two columns which works on my Firefox fine. What is puzzling me though is that this reflist display is lopsided, in all the other articles in which i've seen reflist used with 2 columns - the template automatically balance the columns out to avoid whitespace. {{reflist}} and {{reflist|3}} work fine on preview without leaving any whitespace, so why isn't {{reflist|2}}? Nanonic (talk) 06:48, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... this is weird. It looks fine on other pages. I've made a note at Template talk:Reflist, we'll see if someone comes up with an idea. Chamal ^talk 12:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See my response at Template talk:Reflist#Is something wrong here?. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 12:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ABOUT UPFC

how the shunt converter damp the oscillations in a transmission line —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinay.mandi (talk • contribs) 08:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:48, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lost.

An apparently saved page on 'My Talk' Michael Nettleton (talk) 13:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that you have made one edit to your talk page. If you are trying to create an article, you can use a personal sandbox to test everything out before you move the page to the mainspace. Let us know if there's anything with which we can help. TNXMan 14:02, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

McMansion

This is a derogatory term used in the construction industry. In the References section, number 1 reference is Sereno Canyon. It includes a link to the Sereno Canyon website. This is a custom home community in Scottsdale Arizona. No homes are built yet. When homes are built,they will be custom designed and constructed, not "McMansions." The reference to our community is in error. Please remove the reference, and contact me that it is complete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DebbieOmundson (talk • contribs) 14:09, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked at the source and the article. The only thing for which the source is used in the article is to attribute the quote by Jay Westervelt. I don't see an implication that Sereno Canyon does or does not build McMansions. TNXMan 14:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the reference doesn't indicate that homes in Sereno Canyon will be McMansions, but I also think that a better source for the quote should be found and the advert currently being used as a reference should be replaceed. Looking for a new source now. --Onorem ♠Dil 14:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User box

This user remembers using
a rotary dial telephone.

Can someone help me make a User Box that says:

"This user remembers building and using a Crystal radio." Perhaps using this picture of an old crystal radio: ------>

<---- Maybe something like user box for the rotary dial telephone. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 15:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on user's talk page. TNXMan 15:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding an article to wikipedia

I am having a hard time adding a page to wikipedia. I read some Q & A and i know that there are lots of "terms" and that need to be met in order for an article to be published. So my question is once i have the credible resources and an artiacle is ready, what do i do with it? Do i send a list of resources to wikipedia, and if so what is the email to send it to? Also what is the link to see the terms that need to be met so I can post an article. I am making a page on a charitable organization. How should I go about getting this article on wikipedia. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Volunteerafrica (talk • contribs) 15:22, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 15:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Reference links

Hello

I work for Fairfield University - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfield_University We recently launched a new website, making nearly all the links under 'References' on our Wikipedia page invalid. I need to update the links to their new URLs, but when I click on Edit for that section, I'm not getting the code to update those links. How can I access the code for our References links to update them?

thank you Lauraj515 (talk) 15:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The code for the footnotes is in the body of the article where the footnote appears, not in references section. See Help:Footnotes for more information. You might want to read cool URIs don't change too. Algebraist 15:51, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Problem requesting an IRC cloak

I'm trying to register and get a IRC cloak for using the Wikipedia IRC channels. I've registered as Pyrspirit and connected it to an email address and alternate nick, and I'm trying to complete the steps at the cloak request page. I'm currently stuck at step 5, which is checking that all steps have been completed. It gives the following message:

We couldn’t find the message sent to bot. It appears that it was not sent or was sent using a wrong nickname. Incomplete requests will be stored for three days before being discarded, so you can return later to complete this request from this computer in that time frame.

I've tried sending the message it specified (/msg wmfgcbot !reqcloak [confirmation code]) several times, but it doesn't seem to work. I've never used IRC before, so I'm not sure what to try next. Why isn't this working? Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 16:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Calling all non-free use experts

I have a question about magazine covers at Wikipedia talk:Non-free use rationale guideline#Magazine covers. That talk page is kinda quiet so asking here for input there. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 16:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleating an image

I originally put up an image to wikipedia. Then with this wikicommons thing I put the same image up there. But there seems to be no way to call the new image up from wikicommons because the first one is still up on wikipedia. how do I eliminate the one on wikipedia and/or call the one on wikicommons?????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christian Skeptic (talk • contribs) 17:50, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tag the image with this: {{db-G7}}, and an admin will delete it for you. – ukexpat (talk) 17:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New page

I have been following a photographer for years and have the correct references to upload. Why do you make it so difficult/offensive to do this. I was directed to a page that said "Fuck all of you ///suck your own dicks" when I tried using sandbox. How is this professional? Now I have a blacklist...Can someone please help. There are so many areas/ and you get redirected...I have the page in correct format...just need to post it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2009pedia (talk • contribs)

If you'd like, you can post the page to a personal sandbox, like User:2009pedia/Sandbox. Just click on the redlink and paste your article. Once your account is autoconfirmed, you can move the page to the mainspace. Also, be sure to check out this handy guide. TNXMan 18:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abusive Content

If someone put information about me personally on wikipedia without my consent, could I sue wikipedia or could they get banned? I am thinking about both, as it has really offended me. Search the following for details:

User: brawn118

There was no report abuse section, so I thought it would be appropriate to put this information here. If nothing is done about this page, I will be forced to take action. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.216.244.205 (talk) 19:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The page has been tagged for deletion as an attack page. While we are happy to work with you to resolve this situation, please remember that legal threats will not help your case. If you have further questions, feel free to ask. TNXMan 19:16, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The page has now been deleted. AngelOfSadness talk 19:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I don't know the exact name of the law, but there is some legal thingy that ensures Wikipedia can't be held liable for what individual users post. =- Mgm|^(talk) 21:40, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you should take a look at Wikipedia:Risk disclaimer and Wikipedia:General disclaimer? Cheers. Chamal ^talk 00:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sock puppet investigation notification

What's the template for letting puppeteers and puppets know they're the subject of an investigation? Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance has no guidance. THF (talk) 19:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets#Reporting_suspected_sock_puppets has the wiki-mark up of said template. AngelOfSadness talk 19:24, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

{edit conflict) How ironic! I think what you're looking for is at Template:Sockpuppet. Best, TNXMan 19:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

how to change article header?

I would like to change the title of my article from "Edward Jackson (photographer)" to "Edward N. Jackson (photographer)" but I can't find an edit link. How can this be done?

Niteflyer Niteflyer (talk) 19:38, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You could click the "move" tab at the top of the article page. That way, the old article title is left behind, which would seem reasonable. Please, before you do this, read Wikipedia's Naming Conventions for Articles about People. There are some rather specific rules about naming articles, and it would be a good idea to be certain that this article matches those rules. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 19:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) In order to change the name of an article, you must move the page to the new title. In order to do this, your account must be autoconfirmed, which means that it has been active for four days and made at least ten edits. The only question I would have is why you would like to include the initial. Is Jackson most commonly referred to as "Edward N. Jackson" or is there another photographer with an article with the same name? TNXMan 19:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is no existing Edward N. Jackson article so the disambiguating parentheses are not required. – ukexpat (talk) 20:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did everything right!

Hi. I do not understand. I did everything that the guide told me to do, but someone gave me an A7 anyway! What am I doing wrong? User: Extremo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Extremo (talk • contribs) 20:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:CSD#A7. – ukexpat (talk) 20:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How did you indicate why its subject is important or significant? According to A7, an article that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant can be speedily deleted. —teb728 t c 20:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The deleting admin says it was a repost. That is G4 instead of A7 speedy deletion. Reposting material when it was previously deleted without making any changes generally leads to another deletion one way or another. You still didn't explain why it met the inclusion criteria and the article lacked references to make it verifiable too. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do I move a page?

I recently authored my first page "Profiles in folly" and would like to move the entire content of the page to a new one, "Profiles In Folly"

Thanks, Sanitas (talk) 21:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that TheRedPenOfDoom has replied on your talk page. However, here's how it's done. First, your account must be autoconfirmed, which means that it has been active for four days and made at least ten edits. After that, you will see a "move" tab at the top of pages. Click that tab and select the new title you wish to which you wish to move the article. If the new title's not taken, it will be moved. TNXMan 21:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And I responded there with regard to the miscapitalized "In" in the new title suggested by Sanitas above. Deor (talk) 21:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removing talk page warnings

Hi, I have some really ridiculous warnings on my talk page. Can I just go ahead and remove them? Nerfari (talk) 21:50, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, responded on your talk page also. dougweller (talk) 21:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) The short answer is, Yes, you can. I don't really see why you'd want to, though. The discussions seem to show that, by and large, you've been doing the right things (although Martin was probably right about your AfD nomination of List of cities in Texas). Don't be so defensive. I don't think anyone's picking on you just because you're a new user; some people are suspicious of newbies at AfD, but pay them no heed. There's a learning curve to becoming a productive Wikipedian, and you seem to be well on your way. Deor (talk) 22:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism can only be valid or invalid. If it's valid, you should heed it. If it's invalid, then it reflects poorly on the critic. Either way, having some criticism on one's talk page gives one a chance to hone one's sangfroid. On Wikipedia, as in the rest of life, it is useful to cultivate a detached, objective response to criticism. In contrast, the instinctive reptilian response, which comes from the emotional brain, is generally not productive, and overcoming it is a lifelong battle. What's on your talk page now will matter less in the future, because if you stick around on Wikipedia, your talk page will eventually get longer and you will archive the older portions. Once the warnings are in your talk page archive, very few people will be likely to see them, unless you attain such a high level of Wikipedia eminence that teams of scholars feel motivated to dig into your archives. --Teratornis (talk) 00:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Content Deleted

I was editing something that says rght on the bottom you can help wikipedia by expanding this page. I edited it and then two days later it was deleted. The two pages were: CJCY-FM and CJOC-FM. Can you tell me why they were deleted? Thanks!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kunzy (talk • contribs) 22:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You added a list of programs, which are prohibited by WP:NOTDIR, point number 3. Xenon54 (talk) 22:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Click the "history" tab on a page to see the edit history. It shows your edits were deleted in [4] and [5] with the edit summary "WP:NOTDIR: no program schedules." If you click the "discussion" tab then there are links to Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio Stations. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio Stations#Article content for some suggestions. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template question

Resolved

– ukexpat (talk) 14:41, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there an easy way to make a single template appear like ambox on articles and tmbox on talkpages? I would like to do this with templates like {{Expand German}}, which are generated by {{Expand language}}. For these templates it makes sense for them sometimes to go on the article page and other times on the talk page. Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:42, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Try wrapping it in {{mbox}} which has namespace detection. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looking a bit more closely, you should be able to make a simple change to {{expand language}}: ambox → mbox. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 02:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect! Thank you! Sure a lot easier to post here than to search for hours among templates..... Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:41, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Company article - conflict of interest

FULL DISCLOSURE: I am an employee of the company mentioned in this article.

I have recently come across the Altium Limited stub by the WikiProject Business group. This stub is a great introduction to Altium, however I was hoping to extend this article to include some of the organisation’s background and history. I would also like to update the 'links' section with new articles and to list more items in the 'products' section. However, I am an employee of Altium and I fully understand my conflict of interest. Therefore I am trying comply to the following guidelines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Business#I_think_my_company_deserves_an_article_on_Wikipedia_but_none_exists._What_can_I_do.3F

I've already posted my draft on the wiki project discussion page, but I have had no replies. I really want to comply to Wikipedia's policies and remain neutral, so I would greatly appreciate if someone can give me any tips on how I can update this page. My draft is located here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WikiWriter2345/Altium_draft
I would appreciate any feedback on this and I'm open to discussions.

Kind regards
WikiWriter2345 (talk) 23:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Side note: read Help:Link so you know how to make links like these:

Thank you for reading the instructions in WP:BFAQ and attempting to do the right thing. On Wikipedia we have lots of rules, enough to determine what to do in almost every situation. However, we also have Ignore all rules because sometimes doing things by the rules can be very slow. Since Wikipedia is a collaborative editing project, everything depends on who you can collaborate with. That in turn depends on how many people are paying attention to a particular article, page, process, discussion, etc. The Altium Limited article is not getting a huge number of views. That means if you do things the "right" way, which would be to suggest your changes on the article's talk page and wait for someone not connected with the company to implement them, you might be waiting a long time. Or maybe not. Calling attention to your situation on the Help desk is more likely to generate a response, because the Help desk gets more attention from helpful people (go figure) than a lot of other pages on Wikipedia. On much of Wikipedia, the number of people with questions far outweighs the number of people with answers. The answers are all in the manuals, but reading them takes a lot of work.

You took the right approach with User:WikiWriter2345/Altium draft, that is, it's good to write an article draft as a user subpage before going live with it. I don't see any glaring problems with what you wrote. It seems factual and neutral, and avoids peacock language and public relations hagiography. However:

See WP:LAYOUT as you have your standard sections out of order at the bottom (External links should go last).
The article could use a See also section. Surely there are some articles related to this one that you haven't mentioned inline. A list of Altium's competitors, for example, would be helpful, and would go a way toward proving your neutrality.
Has there been any reliably sourced criticism of Altium? An article devoid of criticism of its subject may not be neutral, as nobody is perfect.
You've linked some of the jargon, but not all of it. The lead section, in particular, should link to something else. For example, what is Altium an example of? Does Wikipedia have articles on the general classes of things that Altium is, does, or sells? Linking to these articles inline helps the reader establish the context for the article's subject.
When you mention specific individuals in the company, it's nice if they are notable enough to have their own biographical articles. Mentioning people who are not notable can seem a bit suspect.
The article could use more footnote citations. See WP:FOOT, WP:CITE, and WP:CITET. And please use citation templates. They are a bit bothersome to learn, but the result is more consistent and professional than ad hoc formats.
You have a set of external links in an "Articles" section. That's not a standard section we normally use (see WP:LAYOUT for the preferred layout). Instead you should turn all those articles into footnotes if you can.
Some additional reliable sources not connected with the company would be helpful.
You don't need   tags after every hard return. The MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia has a wikitext markup language that is designed to be as compact and clean as possible. We normally don't have to resort to using HTML tags unless we are doing something a bit unusual. As a new Wikipedia user, hopefully you won't be doing anything that needs HTML yet.
Look over some featured articles about other companies, for example Microsoft. Featured articles represent Wikipedia's best work. That's where you want your article to go.
This phrase might start to brush the border on WP:PEACOCK:
- "to embrace all the other disciplines that make up the complete electronics design experience."
How about backing off on the buzzword bingo with:
- "to support other disciplines that electronic designers use."

You may want to read the book for new Wikipedia users: H:TMM. It tells how to do just about everything you need to know. --Teratornis (talk) 00:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

February 27

tag on public domain image

What tag should be put on an image that is in the public domain, if you are not the creator? {{PD}} is depreciated and {{PD-self}} is for the creator. Bubba73 (talk), 02:57, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It generally goes by country and/or by subject i.e., a generic public domain template for the United States is {{PD-US}}. See Category:Wikipedia image copyright templates (and don't forget to click on "(next 200)" at the bottom of the page). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:09, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do I go about adding IPA pronunciations to Wikipedia?

I already know how to type in IPA and transcribe sounds.

What are the conventions, wikitext, etc. for inserting IPA pronunciations? What are the guidelines for deciding when & where to use an IPA pronunciation? For example, would it be overenthusiastic of me to call up each and every article on a nation (Canada, France, Peru, etc.) and insert the IPA pronunciation for each nation's name?

In "Robert Anson Heinlein (July 7 1907 – May 8 1988) was an American novelist," do I put the pronunciation before or after the date? What convention should I use to separate Robert from Anson from Heinlein?

Is there some kind of Portal for IPA editors? Minetruly (talk) 03:36, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:IPA is probably a good place to start. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 06:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is also Wikipedia:Spoken Wikipedia. Buried in there somewhere is a taskforce of people who provide pronunciation sound files. Since a lot of people DON'T know how to transcribe sounds into IPA (or how to decipher them again), it might be a good idea to try that instead. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:29, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

external link to file on HD

OK, maybe I'm just tired - but I'm missing something - I'm trying to put a link on my user page - to a file on my HD. I tried:

[file:///C:/Users/Ched/Documents/wiki/backup-webpages/ched/somefile.htm name]

and

<a href="file:///C:/Users/Ched/Documents/wiki/backup-webpages/ched/file.htm" name</a>

I even tried putting in the http:// in a couple places, but I'm just missing it. could a fresh set of eyes give me a clue as to what I'm missing or forgetting? Thanks. ;) and I'll offer the preemptive "facepalm" in advance — Ched (talk) 05:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe that the MediaWiki software allows this functionality. You would have to upload the file to Wikipedia directly and link it from there. It would help to know exactly what the file is and what your intent for using it here at Wikipedia is... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 06:26, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you are using Internet Explorer which can both navigate the World Wide Web and your hard disk, but I don't think your browser would allow a switch from the Web to your hard disk by clicking a link. If you want to try then I uploaded your link here: http://users.cybercity.dk/~dsl522332/Chedtest.htm (including a missing '>' in your html). PrimeHunter (talk) 13:25, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox

Resolved

– TNXMan 14:23, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where's the sandbox. and if this isn't just to ask a qeustion and it's to write a page i'm sorry, o.k —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.19.222.54 (talk) 06:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SANDBOX. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 06:25, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do you use the sandbox because Mikaey(Mikey) wouldn't tell me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.19.222.54 (talk) 06:28, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

yeh i'm sorry man but that didn't help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.19.222.54 (talk) 06:32, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you explain it to me in words, because I don't get it, because this is the first time I've been on Wiki for more then 10 min. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.19.222.54 (talk) 06:37, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Instructions for using the sandbox are in the sandbox directly. If you left a more detailed explanation of what you are trying to accomplish, we could help you better. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 06:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm done —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.19.222.54 (talk) 06:39, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Bye bye now... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 06:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a Sandbox - Help Please

I have created a Wiki page prior to this and am currently using it. I had created a Sandbox, somehow, and now as I am responsible for another project, I am struggling to find simple directions to creating a Sandbox.

I would like you create it for me if possible, since there are endless pages that I have read with little success. If you could put a link to it, so that when I sign in I could work in it, that would be wonderful.

Thank you for saving me a nervous breakdown! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cognitively Equipped (talk • contribs) 12:21, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You created a correct link to a personal sandbox in [6] but I see you removed it again. All you have to do is click the currently red link (red signals there is no page at the moment) User:Cognitively Equipped/Sandbox and save something there, for example {{User Sandbox}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate what you are trying to do for me, but on the page I created before, when I logged in and clicked on the group name at the top center, it would bring me to a backslash and typed next to it , Sandbox. This was evidence that it was a legit sandbox. Right now I get nothing like that after I log in and it means our work could be deleted. I was hoping for a simple Sandbox like I somehow created before. This current project has a title listed as though it were a Main Page and Main Pages are subject to deletion. Whatever I created that you made a shortcut to, i am not interested in, I want a legit link to a Sandbox for when my group logs in.

thanks for your understanding and help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.144.50.63 (talk) 16:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See your user page at User:Cognitively Equipped - I changed the link there to [[/Sandbox]] which takes you to the same page as User:Cognitively Equipped/Sandbox. – ukexpat (talk) 16:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you are referring to. Which website was this at? Anything on the Wikipedia website can be deleted, but User:Cognitively Equipped/Sandbox is as legit as it gets for a user sandbox. It is not the Main Page and it is not in the main namespace, but anybody can see it and anybody is able to edit it when it's not protected (but it's rare to edit other users sandboxes). You can also get to User:Cognitively Equipped/Sandbox by clicking your username Cognitively Equipped at the top of the page and manually adding /Sandbox to the url. Maybe this is similar to what you did at the other site. I'm not sure what you mean by "group name", "our work could be deleted" and "my group logs in", but note that shared accounts are not allowed and Wikipedia is not a webhost. See also Wikipedia:User page. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Saving one's own files

can i save my own files in this site so that i can read it when i want. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.250.182 (talk) 12:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am confused by what you want to do? Wikipedia is not a filehosting service. If you could explain in more detail what your purposes are, we could perhaps help you? --Jayron32.talk.contribs 13:05, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's exactly what the poster is looking for, a file hosting service and Wikipedia is not it. Try box.net or Google "free file host". – ukexpat (talk) 14:35, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Or see File hosting service#Comparison of notable file hosting services. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:39, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect he may want to save articles to his hard drive; so he can read them offline. —teb728 t c 19:58, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Uncategorized pages

Am I halluncinating? This category used to be filled to the brim with articles just a few days ago and now it suddenly has subcategories with no indication in the history of either parent or child cat how they came to be there. Special:UncategerizedPages doesn't update properly. Did I visit the wrong cat or what? - Mgm|^(talk) 12:59, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I checked Category:Category needed as well, and I don't see anything there. Either folks at the categorization WikiProject have been working extra hard over the past few days (unlikely but possible) or there is a glitch in the system somewhere we are missing. Perhaps a post at WP:VPT or something may get someone's attention with more technical savvy?!? I am confused here as well. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 13:09, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

adolf hitler

having followed the link and then searched for 'adolf hitler' i am deeply unimpressed by the article. please advise why i cannot get any actual information about the man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.249.138.179 (talk) 13:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your question is not clear. There is a lot of info on the article Adolf Hitler. So much in fact, that it is tagged as too long to read comfortably. The article had been recently vandalized though, and maybe you have read the vandalized version. This has been reverted soon after. Cheers. Chamal ^talk 13:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

for some reason i see this too it says "He Has A **** (vagina)" but then i purge the page and it display now correctly

The vandalism was at 13:25 (UTC) and was reverted the same minute by a bot. The vandal has been blocked indefinitely (User talk:Devils Advocate). PrimeHunter (talk) 14:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Strangely enough, though, Hitler Has Only Got One Ball. And he has an article to note that fact too. Ok, that was probably excessive. But come on, laugh a little people]]. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 14:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IEEE logo =

The logo used for IEEE on the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE is wrong and outdated.

Please upload a new logo using this page as reference: http://www.ieee.org/web/aboutus/toolkit/masterbrand/index.html

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.98.210.243 (talk) 14:41, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The correct place to raise this issue is at Talk:Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers rather than here. Comments about the quality of an article should be made at the talk page of the articles themselves. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 14:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, investigating the logo in question, it does not appear that the new logo is substantively different from the one in the article. Its basically the same logo, with some text underneath indicating the 125th anniversary of the company. Unless a completely new logo is designed, I don't see where changing the one in our article would be much use. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 14:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The IEEE site has two logos: the IEEE Master Brand (nearer the bottom of the page) and the IEEE 125th Anniversary Mark (the master brand with anniversary text). The article uses the master brand, thus is correct. It is not un-common for an organization to have a variant of a logo for some special purpose, especially anniversaries, but the main logo is that one we should use. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see text

My internet it working fine, but on most pages I dont see text or boxes, just the Wikipedia background. Anyone know what I can do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.60.38 (talk) 16:00, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Try to clear your entire cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Printing Wikipedia articles

When I tried to print out your article on "Multiverse," I found that p. 5 could not be printed. The "print preview" command showed it to be blank, in both the regular and printable versions, and that's the way it was when I went ahead and tried to print them anyway. I never had such a problem until several months ago; since then, I've had it fairly often with various internal pages when trying to print out articles of, say, more than a few pages in length.69.250.218.149 (talk) 17:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can confirm this for IE7; it works fine in Firefox, however. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 17:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming you're using IE. Are you able to use a different browser? If not, could you copy and paste the text into a word processor? I can't see anything about the article that would cause this, but I'll keep poking. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 17:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To resolve the issue of blank pages when printing from Internet Explorer 7:

Create an account if you do not have one
Open Special:Preferences → Skin; from your currently selected skin, click on Custom CSS and open it for editing
Add:

@media print {
sup, sub, p, .documentDescription { line-height: normal; }
}

Save and bypass your cache using the instructions at the top of the CSS page

--—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 18:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

England Test cricket team colours

Resolved

– Answered at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment#England Test cricket team shirts – ukexpat (talk) 20:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On the England Team's shirts there is a number underneath the three lions logo. This number appears to be different for each player. What does the number signify? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.182.97 (talk) 17:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Entertainment section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Algebraist 17:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am guessing it's a player ID number, maybe something mandated by the International Cricket Council? – ukexpat (talk) 18:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OP has asked as suggested at the RefDesk, and received the correct answer that it is the player's "call up" number. DuncanHill (talk) 19:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can not delete a user page

Apparently I have an unknown user page that can not be deleted that is tagged can harm my computer. Can someone delete this page: User:Doug Coldwell/monobook.css . I have no idea what it is or what it is suppose to do - other than harm my computer or my account at Wikipedia! Perhaps people at Village pump (technical) might be able to help!--Doug Coldwell ^talk 19:54, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Panic!. Monobook simply tells your browser how to display Wikipedia. You can see more details at WP:Skin. Best, TNXMan 20:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The page is not malicious. You created it on 9 July 2007. The current code lets you view the normally hidden persondata in an article. If you don't want that feature, just edit the page, blank it and follow the instructions on the page to bypass your cache. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Now that I know what it is I can sleep again. Thanks for telling me what it is and what it does.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 21:04, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Filariasis

Page 3 in your article about Filariasis will not print. Please Help!72.11.41.88 (talk) 19:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See #Printing Wikipedia articles above. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:03, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Modifying Wikipedia:IPA table

Look at this page here: Wikipedia:IPA. See the table to the right that has links to Wikipedia:IPA for Arabic, Wikipedia:IPA for Armenian, Wikipedia:IPA for Czech, etc.?

I've written a Wikipedia:IPA for Japanese article and would like to add it to that list.

How do I do this?

Note that I am new, and it appears my access to this section may be restricted. It doesn't even show up in the editing field. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Minetruly (talk • contribs) 22:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The table on the right is actually something we call a navigation template; the template page is: {{IPAhelp}}. As the template page is not protected, you should be able to edit it now. The template uses some table markup, but it is so simple that you should be able to see what to add. Just make your entry like the others. --Teratornis (talk) 22:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Review of entry on Sarah Keys v. Carolina Coach Company

This article was tagged at top about two or three weeks ago with a caution about avoiding ibid., op. cit, and the like in citations. I removed the ibid. I had used but the tag (or whatever you call it) is still there. Is there something I'm not seeing that you are? Also, I would like to get a more specific idea of why this article is ranked C class. I asked about this on the discussion page but the response was simply to refer me to your ranking chart/guidelines. The article appears to adhere to the standards for an A rating and I wondered if you could review it and tell me what, if anything, is lacking so that I can revise. Thanks! Megavoice (talk) 22:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

General note: you can make your question easier to answer by linking the article title, like this:

Sarah Keys v. Carolina Coach Company

(You did at least state the correct title, which is better than some questions we get.)

To your questions:

On removing the {{Ibid}} template:
- The bold approach is to remove the template yourself when you think you have corrected the problems that motivated someone else to put the template on the article.
- However, if you are new to Wikipedia, the prudent approach would be to identify the person who put the template on the article, and ask him or her if he or she agrees that you fixed the problems. To do that, check the history of the article. You can see that Ukexpat added the template. Since Ukexpat reads this Help desk, he will probably notice that we are talking about him and chime in. If he doesn't, you could get his attention on User talk:Ukexpat.
On the C class ranking:
- Again, look at the history of the article's talk page, see who ranked the article as C class, and ask him or her if he or she thinks the ranking could increase now.
- I wouldn't worry too much about the ranking. It only appears on the article's talk page. Here is how many views it got last month - the view count tool says zero views in January. Presumably the view count will jump up a bit for February, due to the recent edits on the talk page. However, in general talk pages get fewer views than the corresponding articles. Article rankings on Wikipedia do not matter nearly as much as the actual quality of the articles. If an article is of high quality, it will meet the needs of its readers, most of whom will be utterly oblivious to the ranking.
  - In other words, I recommend spending your time on learning how to improve articles, rather than on the procedural overhead necessary to push up the rankings. The rankings are only one means to the end of improving articles. One might consider rankings to be something of a motivational gimmick - not necessarily a bad thing, but not the ultimate goal. If you are already motivated to improve articles, and you know how to improve them, you don't need to pay much attention to rankings. Just go improve some articles, and eventually the rankings will reflect your improvements. The great majority of readers pay no attention to rankings anyway.

--Teratornis (talk) 23:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How to change a file name from Commons

I want to change File:Lomatium bicolor .JPG to File:Lomatium parryi.JPG. Is an administrator needed? ZooFari 23:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See commons:Commons:FAQ#How can I rename/move an image or other media file?. --Teratornis (talk) 23:21, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Joseph Christopher (Change Needed To Information Please...)

Where it says:

On January 11, 2008 Christopher posted on Alien-earth.org stating that he planned to assassinate Obama in a thread titled "ok we have 9 days until my Presidential Assasination". Christopher stated that the motive for this was because he "can no longer allow the Jewish parasites to bully their way into making the American people submit to their evil ways."

It SHOULD read "On January 11, 2009". Somehow, it was posted as 2008 instead of 2009!!!

Thanks!

M7® (Member at Alien-Earth.Org) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.57.97 (talk) 23:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The question refers to the Steven Joseph Christopher article. I must say, the subject of the article sounds like a real piece of work. --Teratornis (talk) 23:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The cited references such as this one give the year as 2009, so you can be bold and change the year yourself. Just click the "edit" link at the top of the section. --Teratornis (talk) 23:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the year in two places.[7] PrimeHunter (talk) 23:54, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

February 28

Is wiki broke?

Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 15250 seconds may not appear in this list??? Ryan4314 (talk) 03:40, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be OK now :) Chamal ^talk 05:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Signature problem

I have a signature worked out that should look like this I Grave Rob_«talk» but when I check the raw signature box so the WikiMarkup becomes part of it and save my preferences it says Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags.

How can I fix this? '''[[User:I Grave Rob|I Grave Rob]]'''[[User talk:I Grave Rob|«talk»]] (talk) 06:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Signature taken out till I can fix this. I Grave Rob (talk) 06:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

COI

I am new to wikipedia and see a conflict of interest box at top of page for "Gavin Lurssen". I apologize for the deletion of one of the COI notices. Did not understand the meaning of this and that they should be left there even after reverting to previous version. I had added some factual points to this page and did not realize there would be a conflict of interest because I am related to this person. I thought I had reverted to a previously saved version where the page was started by an outside individual. Please advise what needs to be done to remove this COI box on the page. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanlurssen (talk • contribs) 07:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

disambiguation

My page "John Cook (musician)" does not currently appear on the John Cook disambiguation page. This makes it impossible to find the article on this person unless one searches for the exact title. Is there a way to change this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brenterstad (talk • contribs) 07:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then edit the disambiguation page and add his name (and his link via [[ ]])there.

Angdl (talk) 08:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would any of the actresses/actors in this reliable local newspaper article pass as notable?

http://www.goldstardailynews.com/content.php?sectionid=4&id=1429

Look at the last sentences in the article to find the names of the said actors/actresses. They are mentioned in a local newspaper, so that does mean they pass as notable as an actor/actress right? There are many famous people from the country Philippines, which are featured in the said local newspaper Gold Star. Angdl (talk) 08:34, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Twin cities of U.S. cities

Whenever I go onto a "Twin cities" section of a city, I always see something like this:

Pierre, South Dakota, USA

Should it be this or:

Pierre, United States?

Filper01 (Chat, My contribs) 09:02, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 801: / Line 801: @@
 Look at the last sentences in the article to find the names of the said actors/actresses.
 They are mentioned in a local newspaper, so that does mean they pass as notable as an actor/actress right? There are many famous people from the country Philippines, which are featured in the said local newspaper Gold Star.  [[User:Angdl|Angdl]] ([[User talk:Angdl|talk]]) 08:34, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
+== Twin cities of U.S. cities ==
+Whenever I go onto a "Twin cities" section of a city, I always see something like this:
+*{{flagicon|USA}} [[Pierre, South Dakota]], [[USA]]<br>
+Should it be this or:
+*{{flagicon|USA}} [[Pierre, South Dakota|Pierre]], [[United States]]?<br>
+<font face="Times New Roman">[[User:Filper01|<font color="red">'''Filper01'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Filper01|<font color="yellow">'''Chat'''</font>]], [[Special:Contributions/Filper01|<font color="purple">'''My contribs'''</font>]])</font> 09:02, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

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