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November 13

The Free Encyclopedia

Edit- Yes, I am fluent in polish, and It means free as in liberty. I meant post bondage as in after jail, no sexual meaning, but it certainly does not mean cost wise.

To whom it may concern:

Please note that in English, it says Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia. In Russian, Japanese, and Polish, probably other languages but I cannot understand them, it says The Free Encylopedia, in the sense that free means liberty. In Polish it says Wolna encykolpedia. That means: Post bondage Encyclopedia.

Just thought I would let you guys know.

-Surge

The problem is that free means different things in different languages so when "the free encyclopedia" was translated when the other language wikipedias were created some translations varied from the original intention. The French Wikipedia however, includes both meanings of the word. Are you sure wolna means "post bondage" and is not just a bad babelfish translation? - Mgm|^(talk) 12:43, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that the original comment was off topic, it certainly sounds like a machine back translation to me. I suspect, also, that the complainer didn't understand that the sexual use of the word is a modern hijacking of the term and the definition given at the head of the bondage disambiguation page is probably what is meant here.

--David Woolley 14:06, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's not supposed to mean cost free. It's supposed to mean free as defined here as libre. I'm not clear whether you are saying there is a third meaning in Polish, or that you thought the intended meaning was gratis. --David Woolley

Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Masts

Hi. What happened to Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Masts ? Table of masts is still a bluelink farm. Thanks! -- Perfecto 05:33, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Blue link farms are a good thing when they are relevant. Red and external link farms are bad. I guess no one merged it to list of masts yet. Having the additional info from the table there is what makes a good list. See our featured lists. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:47, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

editing?

this is the first time that i am useing this web site. please tell me about editing. i can see that i am able to go and edit any thing article but what does that mean? does it mean that ater that i have edited it every one will see it like that? if so what if sick people just come in and edit every thing and make stupid enteries? please some one answer me and clearfy me about editing. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.141.167.86 (talk • contribs)

Yes, everyone else will see it the way you save it. But... Anyone who is watching that article will see that it has been changed and may revert it back to the way it was. So if you put something that is clearly false or nonsense it will be changed back, often in a matter of minutes for more popular articles. For instance, I edited the article on Nicole Richie a while back and it's on my watchlist. I saw just now that it had been edited by an anonymous user. Vandals usually don't have accounts so I checked what the change was. It was vandalism and I reverted the article back to the way it was. The vandalism was present for 2 minutes before I saw it and removed it. For more info please see Wikipedia:Replies to common objections and Wikipedia:FAQ. Dismas|^(talk) 07:57, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is all true, but it does mean that at any moment, something you read might be nonsense. This is of course true of anything you find on the internet. The most important thing to learn is never to take anything for granted. Or, if you believe everything you read, you will not only take away incorrect information from the internet, you will soon be the victim of tricksters or criminals. Notinasnaid 10:40, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, do you mean stupid entries like someone made at Wikipedia:FAQ, Armenia three times and Donkey all over a period of 32 minutes? --hydnjo talk 13:01, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How to create a new category?

I actually have two questions. How can I create a new category so I can add categories to them? and Is there a way I can search solely the Wikipedia help/community portal sections? Thanks. --Gflores ^Talk 07:55, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For the second question, type what you want to search for in the search box and hit "Search". When the results page comes up it will have check boxes at the bottom. Click or unclick those that would refine your search and hit "search" again this time using the search button at the bottom of the page near the check boxes. As for the first question, the page Wikipedia:Categories should help. Dismas|^(talk) 08:00, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For the first question: Simply edit the category page (example Category:some_name, add a quick intro about what's in the cateogory and start adding articles to it by adding the category to the bottom of relevant articles. Just make sure you're not duplicating an existing cateogry with another name and that you are following naming conventions for categories. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

pronunciation of Wikipedia

How do the founders of Wikipedia pronounce its first syllable--as "Wee-" or "Wai-"? Thanks, Simone Schede Freising/Bavaria/Germany

According to the entry for Wikipedia, there are two possible pronunications of the first syllable. The first is with a short, pure /i/, which does not occur in its short form in standard British English. The alternative is with the /ɪ/, typical of standard British English is and in. The w is /w/, not the German sound for this character.

--David Woolley 14:25, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

InterWiki Requests

Is it possible to request another InterWiki thingy (such as :HTTP or :HRWIKI)? -- Super Sam 12:28, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

HTTP:yahoo.com already works. I think you can just go ahead and edit Meta:Interwiki map and wait until the system updates. -- Perfecto

16:48, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Mainpage - scaling images (not visible)

Greeting,

I am new to wikipedia and i use it on a local server. When i edited the main starting page and i put a image (.jpg) on it, everything worked. But the image is too big so i added |150px. That worked partly. The image was not shown (red cross upper left corner), but it seemed as it was scaled to 150 pixels. Does anyone know what happened? I changed localsettings.php by turning the rescaling line to "true".

TIA Martin

It's a common problem at the moment. Basically when you create a "thumbnail" image it is resized and saved as a new file by the Wiki software. This new file is cached on one of the many servers so it doesn't have to be re-sized every time the image is viewed as a thumbnail. When this is done for the first time there can be a delay before it appears, because Wikipedia is growing at a very fast rate and the servers become overloaded. The solution is to get more servers but this takes time and costs money.

Secondly, when adding an image, it is preferred that |thumb| only be used instead of a pixel size. This means that the thumb is displayed according to each individual user's preferences (set in Special:Preferences).

Also, check that when you added the |150px| you didn't accidentally delete one of the characters in the filename, or something "silly" like that. It's often a small mistake which gets overlooked.

-=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 15:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

rely on Wikipedia

Dear Sir/Maddam;

I am one of your new users and I'm interested in the opportunity you provided here extremely. In fact I benefit Wikipedia and appriciate you a lot.

I found that the articles and context of the site are editable. I would be grateful if you explain me how editions are controled and how much the information are reliable?

Youra sincerly

Ghazaleh Banani

WP:FAQ and WP:RCO have the answers. Broken S 15:05, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How do I add a new page on a topic?

type it into the serach box, hit go, click on "create an article with this title" Broken S 15:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And read Help:Starting a new page. --hydnjo talk 15:13, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If you are reading an article and see a red link simply click on it. This will take you to a page which states that no such article exists, and gives you the option to create it.

No red links? Create a link with the title you wish it to have, either in an existing article or the sandbox. It is preferable to use an existing article, as the new one will have at least one link to it.

You can also edit the URL in your browser which will take you to the page described above. for example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New Article Title Here

-=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 15:14, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography

(no question)

See Bibliography. Thelb⁴ 15:36, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

molecules inventor

(no question)

Molecules weren't invented. They existed since the universe was created. Our article on molecules states: Although the concept of molecule was first introduced in 1811 by Avogadro, the existence of molecules was still an open debate in the chemistry community until the work of Perrin (1911). Please refer further factual questions to the reference desk. - Mgm|^(talk) 16:10, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How to provide comments on Special: pages

I recently added a few paragraphs to the top of Wikipedia:Special pages to explain what Special Pages are, and I wanted to tell users where to post comments or suggestions on how Special Pages can be changed. Should they be posted on Wikipedia:Help desk? Wikipedia:Village pump? Wikipedia:Requests for administrator attention? I've had several Special Page problems myself, and I wasn't sure how to give feedback. -- Creidieki 15:49, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Probably http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ as the special pages are generated by the software and would have to be changed by a programmer. --David Woolley 15:56, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Some have pages in the Mediawiki namespace which alter text at the top. Generally, it would probably be best to put a comment on the relevant talk page (of the Mediawiki page) and then a link from the Village Pump to there. If you feel the change would be uncontroversial, leave the message on an administrator's talk page and they will probably make the change for you. [[Sam Korn]] 16:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

But how do you tell which is the relevant Mediawiki page, or whether the change needs to be done by a programmer? I was looking for advice to give to users that would make feedback easier. I've also posted on the WikiEn mailing list, asking whether a "Talk" or "Feedback" tab can be added to the top of Special Pages in the default skin, so we'll see how things go. -- Creidieki 16:25, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, looking on Special:Allmessages and searching for the relevant bit of text can do all you need. [[Sam Korn]] 16:55, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"See also" farms

Please send me to Village Pump if appropriate.

In my short stay here, I encountered three situations already: List of network marketing companies, Freecycle and Million Dollar Homepage. Does Wikipedia list alternative sites or companies?

In MDH, anon users keep inserting commercial links to the article. To avoid a external link farm (i.e., a list of external links), I wrote a redlink farm. Unfortunately, at the moment, through quick inspection, none of these companies/websites are notable as per WP:WEB. So anything that turns blue, like Million Pixel Music, anyone can send off to AfD.

I have a similar situation in Freecycle. See Sharing is Giving, which has an 4,500,000 Alexa rating. In Freecycle's case, I removed the "Freecycle alternatives" link farm. But User:Rhobite restored it, saying, "In the interest of NPOV we should recognize that some people oppose Freecycle and provide links to them..." (See its Talk for this discussion.)

I'm about to look at Cyberbegging, but I expect to find a similar situation.

Is it Wikipedia's job to "promote" alternatives, even if non-notable? -- Perfecto 18:35, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've read your question three times and I still don't know for sure what you're asking. If it's: Is it Wikipedia's job to "promote" alternatives, even if non-notable? then the answer is no. --hydnjo talk 19:09, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think for good or for bad we only provide articles on notable players. If there is actual opposition to an entity (ie if they are controversial), then that should be discussed in the article, and external links about opposition should be given. If we are simply talking about competition, I don't think that belongs on its page. But there should probably be an article on that type of entity or their activity and external links may be appropriate there. Not a really good answer. =) jnothman ^talk 01:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Offline editing

Is there a way to have a "show preview" fucntion that works offline? Obviously it wouldn't render templates, or make wikilinks blue/red.--Commander Keane 18:40, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Live Preview? jnothman ^talk 01:29, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

user account and disremembered password

Hello,

I have made changes to one or more articles both before and after establishing a user account.

While I posted a reminder to myself regarding my user name, I did not store the password as well.

Would you be able to convey my password, or establish a new one, once I verify my user name to you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.208.227.30 (talk • contribs)

Did you provide your email address when you signed up? If you did, you can have a new password sent to you automatically. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:01, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mgm,

The prompt reply is much appreciated.

As I recall, I did, indeed, include an e-mail address; so how do I have the password sent?

Again hello Mgm,

The last question is now moot: I got daring and pressed the 'E-mail new password' button after entering my username. Once more, my thanks.

Copyright

I have to make a works citied page for this website for school But i can't find the copyright of this website can you please help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.169.150 (talk • contribs)

see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia Broken S 22:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RembrandtNightwatch - still need help

I uploaded a corrected image to Wikimedia Commons: Images for cleanup [[1]]. It showed up right away in the file history, but the lighting was still awful (I thought), so I uploaded another, lighter one. I didn't realize that the image would take so long to show up. Well the first one (20:59, Nov 2005) was the right one. Would someone delete 23:00, Nov 2005?

On the bright side, I did the whole process correctly at Wikipedia. [[2]]... NancyS 03:24, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect the reason for not updating is that you didn't force a cache flush (some variation of control and shift with F5 for Windows IE). For performance reasons, the browser and ISP caches are allowed to store out of date images.

I'm not sure about reverting the image, but the obvous thing to try would be the rev against the image you want to return to.

The actual problem with the picture is a very specific technical one that is rather prevalent on web sites but which one would have hoped that the art museum people would have known about. The key is the number 2.2. The sensor in a camera or scanner measures the actual light intensity (energy), but CRT displays produce an output that is approximately the 2.2th power of signal fed to them. To keep PC hardware cheap, images on the web compensate for that. It's called gamma correction. (Macs use a correction that needs more complex hardware, but better matches the human eye.) In this case, the image was uncorrected (gamma 1.0); in other cases of dark iamges, the Macintosh correction is applied.

I'm not familiar with Photoshop, but in Gimp, in Image | Colors | Levels, the middle slider controls gamma, and you will get the best colours, in this case, by setting the value to 2.2. For Macintosh images, around 1.6 tends to be the right value.

If you see sRGB in the metadata for an image, and assuming that an image processing program hasn't inserted the wrong value, that means tht it has been corrected for a gamma of 2.2, for PC and web use. Some sorts of image manipulation, are best done on a gamma = 1.0 image, and Macintosh corrected images, on a Macintosh, will show the least subjective colour banding.

--David Woolley 23:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"I suspect the reason for not updating is that you didn't force a cache flush..."

I reloaded. which Safari & Firefox at least don't get from the cache. When I still got the old picture I flushed the cache for good measure. No dice, so I quit for a couple of hours. RembrandtNightwatch was still really dark so I uploaded a lighter one - too light as it turns out, since I was still seeing the original picture. I had already checked it by uploading it to my own website.

I can't revert the image because the rev option is not selectable. Take a look: [[3]]. Ideally 23:00, 7 November 2005 should be deleted; it was just a newby mistake. NancyS 00:21, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have an account on Wikicommons, so, of course, those options won't be enabled for me; they're not enabled on Wikipedia (for an image with some back history) when I'm not logged in.

There are at least four levels of refreshing a page (If-Modified-Since to the immediate upstream cache, unqualified fetch from the immediate upstream server, If-Modified-Since to the origin server, and a forced end to end reload). Did you use the highest option available?

--David Woolley 10:30, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks David for "...those options won't be enabled for me; they're not enabled on Wikipedia (for an image with some back history) when I'm not logged in."; this is just the kind of stupid mistake that trips me up for days. Ordinarily I'm auto logged by WC or my browser, but it still needs to be glanced at for verification.

November 14

American vs. British English

Based on experience, I know that some articles are written in American English while others are written in British English. What I want to know now is which article are written in which. Please answer quickly. --Member 04:42, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt anyone knows since there is no simple way of cheacking.Geni 04:49, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please refer to the National varieties of English. "Articles that focus on a topic specific to a particular English-speaking country should generally conform to the spelling of that country". Walter Siegmund (talk) 04:52, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So an article on London (capital of the United Kingdom) should be in British English, one on Montreal should be in Canadian English and one on New York should be in American English. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

As well as the above, note that in non-specific cases, articles tend to be written in the style of whoever gets there first - so we have the odd effect that articles on various aspects of labor relations are alternately "labor" and "labour". Using specific terminology that causes confusion between the two is discouraged, though - the verb "to table" probably shouldn't be used, for example, since it means one thing in American English and exactly the opposite in British English. Shimgray | talk | 15:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Trouble editing Hitler article

I've discovered a very obvious mistake on the Adolf Hitler biography page. Under the "Legacy" section, the text that begins with "Adolf Hitler is the greatest..." has clearly been added as a prank. When I try to edit the article, the text does not appear in the code. It seems that editing this article is beyond my capabilities. If anyone knows how to remove the text, I encourage you to do so as soon as possible, as this kind of language has no place in a scholarly work.

Someone already removed it while you were looking at it. Please hit Ctrl+F5 if you use Internet Explorer or clear your browser cache to see the most recent version of the article. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:59, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Messed Up Watchlist

Hi, When I just viewed my watchlist, it added 10 items which I had never seen before, much less watched. It seems that my watchlist seems to be adding pages to itself at random. Also, its adding them under incorect dates. When I do add a page, it's talk page goes on the list, and says it was added in 1970, and when I add a talk page it adds the article and says it was added in 1960. For each item I add, more random junk keeps poping up on the watchlist. What is going on? Tobyk777 05:56, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

When you add an article its talk page gets added too, and vice-versa. With the rest of the madness, I have no idea. jnothman ^talk 09:04, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance) vs Wikipedia:Help desk

What is the diffrence between these two pages. They appear Exactly the same. Tobyk777 06:18, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is for help, the other is for assistance, of course! :-)

Seriously though, I get the impression that this page is for advice, the other is for actually asking someone to do something, but there does seem to be a large overlap between the two pages. Redundancy isn't always a bad thing though. <nowiki></nowiki> — [[User:PhilHibbs|PhilHibbs]] | [[User talk:PhilHibbs|talk]] 17:30, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Wikipedia in the media

Uh... what on earth happened here?! It's now redirected to a category! - Ta bu shi da yu 07:01, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

New Favicon

I made a favicon for Wikipedia based on the globe (pictured at right). Because Wiktionary and Wikipedia currently have the same favicon, one or the other should change it. For the following reasons it makes sense to use a globe for Wikipedia's favicon: 1. Wikipedia seems to use the globe rather than the W as its main logo. 2. It makes sense for Wiktionary to have a letter for its logo because Wiktionary deals with words whose main components are of course letters. 3. A favicon based on Wiktionary's logo (which look likes a dictionary entry) might not be very recongizable at a smaller size. 4. W is a latin character and as such is culturally associated with Western civilizations. Thus using a symbol like a globe without any inborn cultural associations is more international-friendly.

Theshibboleth 08:08, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Governor Adamu Alero

I want to make a little correction on the term of office of 5 years (re election)mentioned in his biography. actually he is re elected for a term of 4 years

Thanks for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to change it. You can edit almost any article on Wikipedia by just following the link at the top of the page. We encourage you to be bold in updating pages, because wikis like ours develop faster when everybody edits. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. You can always preview your edits before you publish them or test them out in the sandbox. If you need additional help, check out our getting started page or ask the friendly folks at the Teahouse. Dismas|^(talk) 10:00, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation

There is a dispute between two parties concerning the article St Volodymyr's Cathedral. I proposed to apply for mediation. Two opponents agreed, but the third one does not answer my messages.

May I ask for mediation in this situation? If no, please suggest, what should I do to resolve the dispute?--AndriyK 13:20, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If they're inactive, wait for a week or so, but feel free to start mediation with the others. Solving disagreements quickly stops disputes from growing out of control. If the person is active but not responding, try contacting them again. If they don't get back to you assume they don't want to discuss your differences. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:45, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Any One Can Edit?

I am confused. How can we trust anything, if anyone can edit? I am new to this site. It was given as a source for a paper I was reading. Would someone please help me understand? Thanks so much.

anon.

See Wikipedia:Replies to common objections and Wikipedia:FAQ. It is never possible to automatically trust any source, and particuarlly any internet source, You always need to check the refernces cited, or chek the source agaisnt another. Any source may contain bias or error. In the case of wikipedia, there are many eyse watching changes and watching most articles, and usually bias or error is corected fairly promptly when it occurs. But you should examine the sources that our articles cite (and they should cite sources see our citation policy and possibly the disccsion on an article's talk page and the list of conttributiors on the history page to determins how much to trust any particualr article. Any source has the same problems, and most internet sources don't give you as many ways to look into the basis and support for their information. DES ^(talk) 15:27, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Also see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia if you are using wikipedia as a source for a paper. DES ^(talk) 15:37, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Search

When you have created a page how long does it take to come up on the search? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbotnick (talk • contribs) 13:21, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It varies. The sesarch operates off a cached list of page titles, to improve performance. New pages are visible right away, but are not instantly returned as search targets. In any case the search feture is not wikipedia's strongest part. You might consider using google search of wikipedia instead. Even that will not find a new page instantly, of course, but only when google re-indexes the site. DES ^(talk) 18:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is a very good reason to link to and from the article in several related issues, so it's reachable even though it's not in the search system. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:02, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How are "fair use" images compatible with the GDFL?

Are we liable for usages other people make of "fair use" images when reusing content? If not, should we tighten the disclaimer in this area? Steve block talk 19:11, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we are. We clearly state use "wikipedia at your own risk" and that some trademarks belong to other people. It would help though if we add a line or two to a disclaimer telling people to check image description pages before reusing them. Make sure you discuss this with as many people as possible before having it changed, though. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:06, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I would advise that you raise this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fair use befor taking any major action one way or anotehr. DES ^(talk) 21:06, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There's an older discussion on this at meta:Do fair use images violate the GFDL?. Angela . 01:29, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

hospitality

Can you please help me. I can't find any infor on the "partie system" which envolved during the early 1900s and particularly under the influence of Escoffier, revolutionised the way in which kitchen staff (or bregades) were organised. The work in the kitchen was sub-divided into working groups or parties. What is defenition of "partie system " Graphics anything will help I need it for an assignment for better scores Thnx Bertie Viljoen <email removed>

The limited info we have seems to be in Auguste Escoffier. You might ask on Talk:Auguste Escoffier, or at our Reference Desk (which is where this question should have gone), but you will probably do better going to the library to do resertach on this, or perhaps finding info elsehere on the net. If you do find reliable info, please come back and add it to Auguste Escoffier or some other approprite article on wikipedia, please. That will help the next person with such a problem. DES ^(talk) 21:26, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Article removed

hi,

I created an article called 16th Amendment Intent and Purpose last week and now it has disappeared. Can someone delete it? I was never informed. Can you check to see what happen?

Thanks --206.111.181.109 22:07, 14 November 2005 (UTC)BB69[reply]

Do you mean this one? 16th Amendment Purpose and Intent - Tεx τ urε 22:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Did I just have a technical problem? Was the articla there all along? --bb69 22:11, 14 November 2005 (UTC)BB69[reply]

You reversed the title. - Tεx τ urε 22:14, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How come it doesn't link on the Tax Protester page in the external links area? Is it linked incorrectly? --bb69 22:16, 14 November 2005 (UTC)BB69[reply]

Unfortunately the 16th Amendment Purpose and Intent article appears to be a copyright violation, see [4], so I am going to add it to Wikipedia:Copyright problems. Akamad 22:42, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

nice work on the format. thanks --bb69 22:56, 14 November 2005 (UTC)BB69[reply]

how do i become a wikipedian

i want to know this because i want to edit so i can answer people questions on the question and answer page i`ve asked so many questions on this page and now i want to repay you by answering questions just you guys do.

Just click register/login in the top right corner, read Wikipedia:Tutorial and you'll now the basics to help out. - Mgm|^(talk) 00:01, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How do i make hyperlinks

I want to edit more, but all these articles have hyperlinks and i dont know how to do that. Could you tell me? Fanofphilosophy

Please see the "Links and URLs" section of Wikipedia:How to edit a page. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

HTML tidy

Ah, that seems to explain the problems I'm having with the sigs of User:Just zis Guy, you know? and User:Jtdirl. Can anyone explain why this is disabled and what it does when it's not? - Mgm|^(talk) 23:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It actually does just what it sounds like -- cleans up html. Sometimes people, especially in their signatures, may not use the correct html syntax and leave a tag hanging open, causing the problems you're seeing. The HTML tidy usually cleans this up but was causing some performance problems earlier and has been turned off until the problem can be located and resolved. .:.Jareth.:. ^babelfish 00:07, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone know how long this is going to take?--[[User:Hello fromSPACE|'''Hello'''''''from'''''''SPACE''']] 00:57, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Last I heard the people who need to look at it won't be back around until sometime tomorrow and after that, they still have to figure out whats wrong and come up with a fix. P.S. Close the HTML tags in your sig ;) .:.Jareth.:. ^babelfish 01:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That's the thing, I turned off autoformatting, so where is all that mess coming from?--[[User:Hello fromSPACE|'''Hello'''''''from'''''''SPACE''']] 01:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is not that the HTML tags in your sig are hanging open but that some of the wiki-syntax characters inside your sig are being converted into text. If you look at the edit view above, you'll see, for example, that [ is being inserted as [. I've deleted my signature in the meantime. Rossami 03:13, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

November 15

Could a compugeek have a look please

Krakatoa has a markup problem and seems to have had it for a very long time. I'm not sure how to fix it. Could a compugeek look please> Moriori 00:14, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably an issue with the HTML Tidy mentioned in the section above. Google's cached snapshot of the page shows it correctly. H e rmione1980 00:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tks Hermione. I had interpreted it wrongly as being only at the bottom of the page, sigs etc. Cheers Moriori 00:47, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The developers on IRC said it's an older HTML validator which runs when the HTML Tidy is disabled. It seems to not only close the table prematurely, but also escape all table markup outside a table. --cesarb 00:42, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed templates used on Krakatoa by converting HTML table syntax to wiki table syntax. Looking now for related templates that may still need to be fixed. --Tabor 01:25, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mtnbox templates should all be OK now. --Tabor 02:00, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, photos now no longer appear. Please test your changes. RedWolf 04:31, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

How do I insert a picure into an article?

You need to login and upload the file. Then place it an article using [[Image:Image name.png|thumb|caption]]. See Help:Images and other uploaded files for more details. Angela 01:31, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Also, since html code isn't working right now, you won't be able to upload any images--Hello fromSPACE 01:35, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No, images can still be uploaded. That isn't related to the HTML Tidy problems. Angela 03:08, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm an admin and I don't know what happened...

Could someone look at my talk page? It's showing up as very small text towards the bottom and I have no clue why. I've tried going to older versions of my talk page and it does the same thing. It basically does it about halfway down the page no matter what. It's not a HTML issue. HELP! :) --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 01:34, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it is an html issue, see virtually any thread for reference, or even see the brightly colored banner on recent changes if you're still confused--Hello fromSPACE 01:37, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's this signature: FearÉIREANN

\^(caint). I fixed it everywhere it showed up on your page. .:.Jareth.:. ^babelfish 01:47, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

lol, visual aides--Hello fromSPACE 02:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK thanks. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 02:18, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Did anyone let jtdirl know? --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 02:31, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This was actually an older version of the sig, but a quick glance at jtdirl's talk page indicates that he knows. .:.Jareth.:. ^babelfish 02:36, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Toolbar Problems

Hi, I'm a member of Wikipedia. Throughout the year, my bar (with the watchlist, contributions, etc.) have been working quite well. However, today, I switched my skin back to normal, but whenever I want to press "My Contributions", or any other button, the bar just automatically moves behind the Wikipedia logo. I can't still press the buttons, but my username is behind the logo. It moves every single time. What should I do? -Freddy Tsao

That happened to me back in September. It kept on doing it for about a week, then it stopped. I don't think there's anything you can do about it. Thelb4 08:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

External Links

Hello,

My name is Roberta. I am owner of CPAP Supplies Plus/Direct. We provide some very good articles on our site and illustrations of cpap masks etc. I was wondering how I can appear on External Links such as cpap.com and apnea therapy.com?

I look forward to your reply.

Sincerely,

Roberta www.cpapplus.com [email removed]--216.90.111.42 03:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It is a general guideline not to link to your own site on Wikipedia. The thought goes, if your site is good enough, someone else will add it. However, this is just a guideline, not a rule. If your site isn't that good (I wasn't convinced it was all that after just checking it out myself) it will probably removed from any article it is added to as a spam link. As long as you do not keep adding it in once removed, you should be ok. --Quasipalm 03:51, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Basically, idea behind Wikipedia is that anyone can edit the articles. Akamad 04:59, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please review the policy on link spam before adding links to an article. Wikipedia would welcome illustrations of the type you mention. Please read the image guidelines first. Thank you for your interest. Walter Siegmund [[User_talk:Wsiegmund|(talk)]] 06:01, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Also read WP:SPAM#How not to be a spammer, which has some good rules of thumb on this issue. DES ^(talk) 16:21, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

digital image processing

sir, i 'm an engineering student ihave apaper on this subject i need info as a foot notes for exam on the following sub topics

image enhancement:background,enhancement by point processing,histogram processing,spatial filtering and enhancement in frequency domain, image smoothening,image sharpening,colour image processing

image restoration:degradation models,inverse filtering,least mean square filtering,constrained least squares restoration-interactive restoration image segmetaion:detection of discontinuities,edge linking and boundary detection,thresholding,region oriented segmentation

i need this info today very urgent.

my email address is (removed)

Factual questions go to the reference desk. Are you sure you need the information for today? Is your assignment due today? And I find it strange that an engineering student would have such sloppy spelling. — JIP | Talk 07:41, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Might not be from an English speaking country. Akamad 10:01, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

D'oh, I didn't think of that. I'm not from an English speaking country either, so I tended to generalise my own spelling skills over others too. — JIP | Talk 10:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Signature doesn't work

Today my signature stopped working for some reason. When I wrote my signature with ~~~~, it inserted the signature's wiki source code, instead of the signature's rendered form, into the article. I checked the source code and saw that all the HTML elements had been escaped, for example — (an ampersand followed by mdash;) had been turned into &mdash; (an ampersand followed by amp; then by mdash;). I tried to fix the signature source code in my preferences but it didn't work. I had to make it a raw signature and insert the wikilinks to my user and user talk page by hand. Is this a bug or a new "feature" in the MediaWiki software? — JIP | Talk 07:40, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's definitely a bug; search for HTML Tidy elsewhere in this page. I think there's still a notice way up at the top that relates to it. Basically, the software is supposed to clean up various HTML errors and is now either not doing it at all or not doing correctly. The devs are very aware of the problem. :) —HorsePunchKid→龜 07:43, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And just now, above, at Toolbar Problems, my signature went to [[User:Thelb4|Thelb4]] instead of the extremely long [[User:Thelb4|Thelb]][[User talk:Thelb4|4]] (produces Thelb⁴). Thelb4 08:14, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The messages regarding HTML tidy are gone, so why is my sig suddenly not working? It worked fine 2,5 hours ago. - Mgm|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|(talk)]] 08:36, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Adding the automatic code at the beginning and end, and turning on raw signatures seems to fix it. Why, the code is still the same. Why did my faulty sig suddenly codes like

"& # 124; & # 91; & # 91;"

(I included spaces, so it wouldn't render)?- Mgm|^(talk) 08:41, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add my comment, I noticed a similar problem this morning. I can enter the link to my profile page User:IainP without a problem, but linking to my talk page IainP just displays the text in bold. Note that both of those links were added by hand, not from my sig. However, if I link to someone else's talk, the link seems be added and functions fine even if that user doesn't exist! I'd put my sig on the end here, but I don't see the point ;)
Flipping heck. I've been trying to get it to work for an hour on my talk page and now it works on here! IainP [[User_talk:IainP|(talk)]] 11:12, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
What you found is actually a "feature". Your signature will always do that on your user page because you're putting a link to the page on that page itself. The bold instead of a blue-link is a way of showing that you've created a self-referential link. For example, here is a link to this page: Wikipedia:Help desk. Self-referential links are bad because they create confusion for readers who may not try to click the link. When the link does nothing, they think the link is broken, not realizing that they are already on the page. It looks a little odd on a user-page but is a very useful tool for keeping the article-space clean. Rossami (talk) 14:30, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I asked the developers, and they said that both wiki markup and html markup are no longer allowed on non-raw signatures. If you want to use both, you need to use raw signatures (which do not automatically link to the user page). --cesarb 15:36, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oddly, my raw signiture (smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)}) has been working just fine, yet now, without making any changes to the preferences, I now get a message telling me that I now have an 'Invalid raw signature; check HTML tags' in ugly red letters. I have tried checking my signiture and the code; it works when typed normally, but when used as a signiture, reverts to the the standard 'Smurrayinchester 15:41, 15 November 2005 (UTC)'[reply]

You have unclosed tags (I can see at least two unclosed font tags). --cesarb 15:55, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That fixed it! Odd, though. It used to work just fine with my sloppy HTML... smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 16:17, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Until they fix this I guess I'll use {{subst:User:Texture/sig}} ~~~~~. (I hope they realize that this does need fixing.) - Tεx τ urε 16:09, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:How to fix your signature for advice on how to fix a signature broken by the recent changes on the software. --cesarb 16:32, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! That cleared me up. - Tεxτurε 16:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ORDINANCE 2002

Dear sir,

I am president of an NGO Namely "Friends of Bhittai Colony".Our jurisdiction is limited to Bhittai Colony, Korangi Crossing, Karachi, which is administered by the Cantonment Board Korangi Creek, PAF Korangi Creek. We sought a clarification regarding Assessment of Taxes by Cantonment Board, under the "Freedom of Information Ordinance 2002. The C.B.K.C. first of all refused flatlyto provide the information. When pressurised the department further they have opted the delaying tactics by varios method as they say that they dont have a copy of the Ordinance. Is it our fault and is this can be delayed due to this reason. Please guide us in this matter. [email removed]

This kind of question should be asked on the reference desk, I've copied it there, but please be aware that Wikipedia does not give legal opinions. As stated on the legal disclaimer: "legal information provided on Wikipedia is, at best, of a general nature and cannot substitute for the advice of a licensed professional." But either way, good luck :-) Akamad 10:08, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

AFDing several articles

I'd like to nominate a few related articles by the same author on AFD. I've seen others combine listings for multiple articles (ie the pages listed on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/RyanVG all direct there) so people only have to vote once, but I can't figure out the correct way to do so. I don't see it on WP:AFD or Wikipedia:Guide to deletion] Indium 08:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Add the the {{subst:afd}} like usual and go back to edit the link that points to the debate and replace {{PAGENAME}} with the name of the subpage it has on AFD. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:47, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
To expand on what Mgm said: Add {{subst:afd}} to all the pages you plan to delete. Then pick one of them, and click on the "this article's entry" link. This should take you to the edit page for the AfD entry. Add {{subst:afd2|pg=Pagename|text=}} (where Pagename is the name of the page you were on when you clicked the "this article's entry" link) and submit. Then immediately edit the page and change the header section (==[[Pagename]]== in the previous example) and change it to be ==[[Pagename]], [[Pagename2]] and [[Pagename3]]== where Pagename2 and Pagename3 are the other two pages you want to put up for deletion together with Pagename (expand this as necessary, of course). Then add {{subst:afd3|pg=Pagename}} to the log as per usual. Finally, go back to all the other articles you marked for AfD and edit them as Mgm said (you should only need to edit the first instance of {{PAGENAME}} though; the one that creates the "this article's entry" link). --Locke Cole 10:14, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image loading problem...

Guys:

I'm an avid user, and I can't seem to get images to load quickly or at all for some pages that I have worked on, while other seem to load very fast. The images are in JPEG format, but for some reason, they sometimes never load. Example: The Maltese Falcon page. There's a left-handed photo of Mary Astor I added but I can't get it to load, but the movie poster in the info box loads quickly. Any ideas? Very frustrating for me. Steve-O 15:25, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No advice, but I'm experiencing the same problem. NancyS 16:43, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia text and Wikipedia images are actually stored on different servers. If the image server is heavily loaded or intermittently down then you might have trouble loading images even if the articles are being served up quickly. Short of donating a whole pile of cash and server equipment to the Wikimedia Foundation, there's not a lot that you can do. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 17:51, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem that the servers for the photos are not working right, however. Just a week ago, it was fine. Also, some photos load much faster than others. Is there someone who works on the servers that could at least be notified? Steve-O 20:40, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

They already know. --cesarb 21:16, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mirror or CopyVio?

Just stubled across the article: |reference.com site which seems word for word with our article (Battle of Iwo Jima). I never have figured out who to alert on these, so tell! Is there a list of mirror sites one can check as well? User:fabartus

Wikipedia:Mirrors. --cesarb 16:39, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects in a category

Is it OK to have a redirect that is in a category? Examples include Non causa pro causa and Quod erat demonstrandum. I think Category:Latin_logical_phrases should be a list. — PhilHibbs | talk 17:10, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Only the target of the redirect can be in a category. Redirect only work when the redirect is the only code on the page. Categorizing a redirect will break it. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:28, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Actually that is not quite true. You can add a category tag to a redirect, or even more than one such category, provided that you do so after the redirect link, and on the same line. Anything after that line is deleted when the page is saved. so

#REDIRECT [[Foo]] [[Category:Fooisms]] [[Catergoy:Bar-realted objects]]

works just fine. Whether it is a good idea or not is another matter. (Often it is not, IMO.) And you cannot redirect one category to another and have it work properly, as I understand matters. DES ^(talk) 22:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How to put in pictures

I've read Wikipedia:Picture Tutorial, image use policy and Wikipedia Commons, and cannot understand, in simple language, how to upload some pictures that I took. Sorry, I'm a novice when it comes to computer programming. Please walk me through this step by step: I took a picture with my camera and had a friend scan it and send it to my e-mail. Now it's sitting here in jpeg format. What do I do next? I think I understand how to place it in the article in the double brackets, as I've edited a few picture captions. Thank you, Yoninah 17:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I just figured it out. Instead of directing people to the almost-unintelligible pages mentioned above, I found clear and easy directions on Special:Upload. Thanks. Yoninah 19:39, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The difficult problem with pictures is not physically uploading them, but getting the copyright issues right. It's not possible to give simple rules as that would be legal advice, and can only be given by a qualified lawyer who has interviewed you to understand exactly what you want to achieve. The two extremes of what can go wrong are that the uploader doesn't understand what rights they are giving away and then get annoyed when they discover they have lost some of their ability to earn money from the picture, and the risk that uploading copyright violations may cause legal problems for Wikipedia, or cause mirror sites to stop using it. (Most people don't realise how extensive copyright is.) If you took the pictures yourself, it is probable, but not certain, that only the first issue applies.

In principle, you can update the pages that your found difficult to make them easier, but you mustn't do that in a way that removes responsibility from the uploader for making the licensing decisions, and documenting the source of the picture, or which simplifies the wording of any of the licence option descriptions in a way that changes their meaning. In particular, you mustn't make them say: "if you took the pictures yourself, select this licensing option". A better option is to propose new wording on the respective talk pages.--David Woolley 23:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

--

OK, lets go. Open a separate window or tab so you can refer to this list.

Visit the Wikimedia Commons. Images uploaded here can be used on any Wikimedia project, including all the language versions of Wikipedia, plus Wiktionary, Metawiki and others. Go here: Commons Main Page.
You will need to register as a new user if you have not done so already. Each Wikimedia project has a separate user account, even if you are already a Wikipedia user on .en you will need to register on Commons. Do this here: Commons:Special:Userlogin.
Assuming you are using the default monobook skin, down the left hand side of your page will be a link saying 'Uplaod file - it is below the search box. Click that link, or click here: Commons:Special:Upload.
The first box is marked Source filename. Click the Browse button on the right and find the file on your hard disk. Example: "tower.jpg"
Choose a name. For example "Church tower, Anytown.jpg" - make it relevant to the subject of the picture.
Summary: Add information about when and where the photograph was taken, and the photographer's name. For illustrations note who drew it and with what software, or say that it was drawn by hand or whatever. Use Wiki links to relevant information:

[[Church Tower]] in High Street [[Anytown]]. Built in [[1863]] by [[Herbert R. Johnson]].
 Photo by [[User:John Smith|John Smith]], taken on [[1 April]] [[2005]].

Choose a licence. If you want to release your work into the Public Domain choose Own work, all rights released (Public Domain). You could also licence under the GFDL or Creative Commons.
You may choose to Watch this page (add to your watchlist)
Check your information is correct and click Upload

WAIT...

If you have done everything correctly, a page will now load, containing the image and the information you have entered. To add to or modify any of this information you can click "edit this page" just like a Wikipedia article. The actual image stays the same, you just edit the "description page".
Remember the name of your image, or even better copy and paste the title, e.g. [[Image:Church tower, Anytown.jpg]]. Find a relevant article and put in your image, which you already know how to do.

I spotted while writing this you already found it but I'll leave it here for anyone else. P.S. remember to close your tags, while HTML Tidy is off!

-=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 20:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

alleged copyright violation

I submitted the material for Charming Hostess(my first on Wikipedia) and am unsure what the violation problem is. The material is original material written by the band's composer (Jewlia Eisenberg) and posted by me (AnMarie). I have posted it on both Wikipedia and the page referenced on the band's website [5] -- hence the alleged copyright violation. However, since the author (Jewlia) gives her permission to use the material and has written it herself I don't understand alleged the copyright violation.

I'm sure the problem is due to my ignorance of Wikpedia procedures. Is there anyway to clear this up?

Thanks for your help, --Anmarie 17:25, 15 November 2005 (UTC)AnMarie[reply]

In which case, it seems that it should have been deleted on the grounds of self-promotion, rather than copyright violation. — PhilHibbs | talk 17:32, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Don't bite the newbies, Phil. To resolve the copyright question, follow the instructions on the copyvio template that appears on the page Charming hostess. You might consider creating a new page under the correct capitalization (Charming Hostess) with original material, however. The article as written is a bit too promotional in tone for Wikipedia, and would likely be deleted anyway.

For guidance, I would recommend looking at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines on autobiographical and vanity articles, self-promotion, and inclusion of bands and musicians. Bear in mind that until a musical group or artist achieves a certain level of notability, a Wikipedia article isn't appropropriate—Wikipedia is here to report on notability rather than to create it. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 17:48, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Really stupid, but how do you label a summary "minor"?

All my edits thus far have been minor (typos, grammar edits, undoing vandalism etc.), and when I leave a summary, I almost always want to prefix it with the m: that everyone else seems to leave when they do the same, instead of actually typing something like "Minor:". The tutorials don't seem to tell me. I'm sure that I'm just being stupid, but I'd like to know.

You can only do this if you are a logged-in user, i.e., you have registered a username and are posting under it. Palmiro | Talk 21:18, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Aah. Thanks!

Please go to Special:Userlogin and read about the many benefits (follow the link)! Walter Siegmund [[User_talk:Wsiegmund|(talk)]] 21:40, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I adjusted the link above by Walter to point to a working location. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:36, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Crude Content in Article, Cannot Remove

Hi, I'm not really a contributor, but I use Wikipedia often. Someone has added some rude/offensive comments to the article on Greece: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece

I tried editing it to remove them, but the rude comments do not appear in the editing page. Could someone look at this and correct it, or explain how I can? Thanks!

What happewnd is that between the time you displayed the article (or the version that you displayed had last been read from the main database) and the time you tried to edit it, soemone else had already fixed the problem. When you edit a page or section, the content is re-read from the database (to reduce edit conflicts) and so you may be editign a newer version than the oen you had displayed. DES ^(talk) 23:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notice! There are system administrators that deal with vandalism, so you shouldn't really worry about it. It usually gets "reverted" in a few minutes (or less). However, if you do wish to learn how to revert, please go here Wikipedia:Revert. Also, please sign your comments with 4 ~'s such as ~~~~ if you have an account. :) Gflores ^Talk 23:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The adminstrators can do things like banning vandals, but they rely on ordinary users to revert vandalism, issue warnings to the offenders, and if that fails, add them to WIkipedia:vandalism in progress. The worst vandalism isn't the obvious vandalism, but subtle changes that can take a very long time to be discovered. --David Woolley 23:50, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Cole County Jail

I am trying to find the name of a country song my father use to sing to me. He has been dead 21 years and I have continued to try to find the name of the song. A verse in the song is " I use to wear a white hat-I rode a horse so fine-I courted a pretty girl -I loved and called her mine------she sent me off to prison to wear a ball and chain. Thank you for your help. anon

Thats from an old folk song called Cole County Jail. Check here for the words and music. In the future, questions like these should be asked at the Reference Desk please. .:.Jareth.:. ^babelfish 23:34, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

November 16

citing articles

I just wrote a paragrpah based on one of the articles in Wikipedia callled "Romanticism"..how do i cite the article?

Just as it says at the top of this page: Refer to Citing Wikipedia — Sverdrup 01:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

1946 births

In the 1946 births section Jose Carreras is listed as being born on Feb 27 and in Dec. Someone might want to check up on this.

In Google I see On 27 February 2004, the Vienna State Opera will host a José Carreras gala concert[6], otherwise all sources seem to agree on birth on 5 December, 1946. I'll remove the February entry. Thanks. user:jnothman ^talk 02:03, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How and Why an article was deleted

The article on "Suspended Animation, INC" was deleted. The article is referenced in cryonics and perhaps elsewhere, but Suspended Animation, INC is just a red link now. How can I find when and why this article was deleted? --Ben Best 03:25, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

[7] -- Win777 03:32, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Because WP:AfD decided. Here is the discussion. Wikibofh 03:36, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Information accuracy & editing

This does not seem like a secure resource as anyone can edit the information

How do you stop just anything being changed?

People doing HSC assignments need accurate information and I will not be using this site anymore as it is not a secure site and the information may not be accurate

do you regularly check added material?

Please see Wikipedia:Replies to common objections. Direct answers: we don't (but anyone can correct "just anything" and there are in general more good guys than bad guys) and numerous people watch both individual articles and all changes. -- Rick Block (talk) 05:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In general, most things that are added are looked at by someone. All of us "regulars" have our areas of expertise; for example, no one will change anything in my area of specialty without me checking it. And by the way, thank you for removing your test edit at Jadwiga of Poland; that was considerate, for many people making newbie tests leave them in the articles. Best, Antandrus (talk) 05:21, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Renal failure-ESRD

what's mesangio capillary gromeonrphrits is there any trial or treatment?

Please read the instructions at the top of the page. This page is for questions regarding Wikipedia. Your question belongs on the reference desk. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:32, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is it actually illegal to create a pen user name?

Is it actually illegal to create a pen user name? My parents told me before that it's illegal to do so. --anon

On wikipedia? No. There are some implications for copryright law but asside from that there is no downside to useing an alais.Geni 07:44, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In the non-wikipedia world, it is quite common for writers to create and use a pen name for their writing. This is in no way illegal. In most cases someone ( a publisher or agent) will know the real name, the is probably required if the writer is to be paid for his or her writing. In many cases the real name is more or less widely known. Some well known cases include Mark Twain (whose real name was Samual Clemens), Ed McBain (who also writes under his real name Evan Hunter), and Donald Westlake, who also writes as "Richard Stark". In the case of James Tiptree Jr the author took considerable pains to conceal her real name (Alice Sheldon), and the name was not disclosed until after she had become a very well known writer (and at least one fellow author had famously pointed to her writing as "work that could never have been produced by a woman").

It is illegal to use a false name to defraud soemone, and under recent U.S. laws (aimed at Money laundering) you must generally give a real name when opening a bank account, taking a job, or participating in various transactions which involve money. DES ^(talk) 16:14, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The classic example of a "figleaf" pen-name - where the identity of the author is well known - is Iain Banks, who also writes science fiction as Iain M. Banks. Completely impenetrable, that one!

Other uses for pen-names are to avoid being sued (this used to be far, far more common) or for political reasons (ditto; some of the great eighteenth-century political writers, such as Junius, are still unidentified today!) There's also marketing reasons - an acquaintance of mine writes pornography under a pen name, not so much because she worries about people finding out she writes it as because it sells better if people think it was written by a man. Sometimes a well-known author will use a pen name in order to sell books very different to what they've written before, in order to prevent people buying them on the basis of the name alone and being unhappy.

Finally, a very common use for a pen-name is to cover the use of more than one writer - Franklin W. Dixon, the "author" of the Hardy Boys series of children's books, was a number of different people using the same name, to give a feeling of continuity. Our article on the Stratemeyer Syndicate discusses the biggest single group of these, and makes interesting reading. Shimgray | talk | 16:40, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Another example: Harry Potter author J. K. Rowling chose to use her initials rather than her name, because she thought it would appeal more to boys who might not otherwise read a book written by a woman.

-=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 18:41, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

But is it bad to have a fake name? --anon

Well, if you want moral judgement, I would say, as an ordained minister, no, it's not bad. Here, it serves many purposes; after all, what if all the John Smiths used their real names? Our false names are no worse than e-mail addresses. Deltabeignet 06:07, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Has anyone ever gotten solicited from conversing over Wikipedia? --anon

What if you create an account but do not want people to talk to you?

What if you create an account but do not want people to talk to you? --anon

Wikipedia thrives on cooperation and people discussing stuff with each other. Why don't you want to talk to people? - Mgm|^(talk) 09:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
People can talk to you regardless if you have an account or not, but will feel more easy about it when you have an account, naturally. If you don't want to talk, have a note on your talk page saying so, and then don't reply if you don't want to. — Sverdrup 11:46, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I feel kind of uneasy talking to people. --anon

Why does the Wikipedia want people to have an account?

Why does the Wikipedia want people to have an account? Because you can't upload pictures nor tell why you edited something in the history page. I want to do those things, but I don't really want an account. I heard that it's because people sometimes have the same IP address, but is that it? --anon

Your reasoning for editing can be given in the edit summary which is given below the edit screen when you edit pages or ask questions and is directly copied into the history. Also, people often share IP addresses. If someone is only identifiable by their IP address it's hard to determine who you're dealing with. Finally, having only logged in users upload images is a safeguard.

Anyway, why don't you want an account? It's free and you don't have to share personal information to get one (only an email address to make sure forgotten passwords can be recovered if you are prone to forgetting). It gives a number of benefits and makes talking to people a lot easier. If you still want to upload pictures, you can ask a regular Wikipedian to do so for you. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:13, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Mgm. However, do note that you actually don't even have to provide an email address when registering for an account. You simply have to choose a username and a password. If you wish to so, you can also record an email address: this is stored, as Mgm says, purely to send you your password should you forget it. You can find more information on this issue at Wikipedia:Why create an account? Regards encephalon 10:21, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for requiring accounts for images are that images are high risk items from a copyright point of view, both because they are often illegally uploaded and because the cost of correcting the problem can be high. Copyright concerns are likely to stop other sites using Wikipedia, which conflicts with the policies behind the user of the GFDL.

There is no restriction on adding edit summaries, only on marking items as minor. Everyone is strongly encouraged to provide an edit summary.

Contributions that appear to come from named, real people, are a lot more credible than anonymous ones, or even from the users of obvious screen names, and are less likely to be challenged and removed.

If someone does challenge an edit, they may ask the editor first, if they can contact them through their talk page. Without a means of contact you may just see parts of articles disappearing. Also, if the system can identify you, it can record which pages you are interested in, so, when for example, I started Article for Deletion on what I believe was one of your pages, you would have been informed that the page had been edited. Having notice of changes also means you can police articles that interest you against vandalism.

--David Woolley 00:11, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks. --anon

how to cleanup an article upto expectation

Hello, I have put up an article on the wiki. Now from Oct onwards its showing "This article needs to be cleaned up to conform to a higher standard of quality". I have tried and still trying to review the article again and again and make changes such that its a clean article. As I am doing this may I know what is the expectation of the cleanliness on an article? If you could help me out in spotting the problems on the article, I can very well look in to it and elevate it to a higher quality. The page is "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalakat_Illam". Please guide me, thanking you Shyam

Hello. It's great that you come back and care for your article! For style, we have a style manual: Wikipedia:Manual of Style, but I think it's even simpler to learn by example. Look at an established article like Albert Einstein to see how the article is laid out and how it is formatted. Some very quick specific points about the article:

First of all, is the text written by you, or is it free from copyright inhibitions? This has to be clear before it can stay on wikipedia.
You use lots of inline external links (the light blue links). Lots of wikilinks (darker blue links, typed with double square brackets [[like this]] are fine, but external links should only be used in a separate External Links section.
Pay attention to the language used; while it doesn't have to be very formal, use full sentences and unexagerrated expressions. (Four !'s is not perfect, for example.

— Sverdrup 11:40, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There is a legitimate use for external links in the middle of the article, but they should, almost always be given in single square brackets so that they only appear as a small numbered reference. The reason for including them is one of the reasons that has been listed on the article's talk page, namely that the article is lacking references.

Although most articles are poor in this respect, every article should have a References section that identifies documents that confirm all the non-obvious facts in the article. This section should include links for anything accessible on the web, but should also contain title, author, organisation running the web site, when consulted, etc., so that the URLs can be rediscovered if the source document is moved.

Especially if there are lot of sources, every fact in the main text of the article should be identified with a source. There are several ways of doing this, but one is to use small external links on the individual points, and include the full details in the References section. Looking at your first paragraph, there is a claim that this group of people has particular powers; this is an obvious case where a source must be quoted.

The actual definitions of Manthravaadam, etc. ought to be in separate articles, unless they are very short, in which case they should be included where the word is used. Someone mentioned Brahmin; there is already an entry for that, so its first use should be a Wiki link.

Someone mentioned the issue of copyright. An article that has lots of external links in it but no Wiki links raises the question as to whether it was copied or literally translated from another web page. If that is the case, unless you also wrote that page, the basis on which you were given permission to use the contents needs to be made clear, and if created independently, it should be listed under the References, unless there are better sources (i.e. the ones used to create the web page).

--David Woolley 13:48, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Also note, that, whilst the claim of powers does need a source quoting, the claim would be considered sufficiently controversial, that you ought to say "According to.<insert most universally credible source of claim>.this family..". If you said something like "According to most Keralan Hindus...", you would need to provide references to back that statement, rather than the actual claim of powers. --David Woolley 14:35, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I just took a quick look at it. Here are some areas for improvement. It assumes the reader knows too much about Indian culture. Some of the Indian words, especially those in the first paragraph need explanation, but I suspect even words like Brahmin need a phrase of explanation. I and probably 5% of the non-Indian English-speaking world know that Brahmin is a high-level Hindu caste, but I don't know what theat means today in India. 95% of non-Indian English speakers may not even know that. As far as all the other Indian words that are not explained, almost no one will understand them. Second, is the article about a family or about a religious holiday? Is this article like "the Smith family and how they celebrate Easter", or should there be two separate articles? You can tell from my questions how well or how poorly the article educates a non-Indian reader. Third, the English needs to be improved. Nearly every paragraph has nonstandard article usage, agreement, punctuation or syntax. For an article with important, interesting information, other editors are often willing to polish the language of non-native English, but as it stands this appears to be a marginal topic incomprehensible to non-Indians. I wouldn't try to improve the language because I can't understand most of the subject matter. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but you asked for explanation. alteripse 12:18, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Change Article Attributions

I created a page called Lee Mirecki before I created a wiki account. So, my early edits show up with an IP address. Now I am wiki user Rlevse. On the Lee Mirecki history page, is it possbile to edit the attributions so it will show I created the article? Rlevse 14:30, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

As I understand, reattributing edits is no longer possible, though it used to be. I think the best thing you can do is leave a note on your user page that you used to contribute as User:140.32.75.116. I've seen a number of quite respected users do this. —HorsePunchKid→龜 18:35, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Another thing I've done is the same as HoursePunchKid's idea, in reverse: I've put a note on the user page for my IP addresses, saying that I am User:AndyJones. That way someone following my anonymous edits can find me. AndyJones 17:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Title of article - technical limitation

I have seen that little "the title is incorrect due to technical limitation" text while browsing wikipedia, but I cannot for the life of me find the tag I need to include so I can put that in an article I am drafting. Can anyone help out a harmless newbie? :) --Sclozza 14:51, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That's {{wrongtitle}} -- Ferkelparade π 14:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

When the technical limitation is that the article's initial letter should be lowercase but the Wikipedia software changes iPod to IPod the template {{lowercase|title=realtitle}} can be used to explain. --hydnjo talk 15:12, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that solves it all :) --Sclozza 05:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

May I ask administrator to kill a certain id?

I'm polyhedron in many forums, as well as in Chinese and German wiki (see zh:User:Polyhedron and de:User:Polyhedron). But here I found the name is already registered by somebody, and he hasn't done anything except for the registration. May I ask to kill this id so that I can register it? And at the same time I'd like to abort my current id Biopolyhedron. -- polyhedron(古韻) Leave message 16:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, deleting user accounts is impossible in the MediaWiki software. Once a user account is registered, it stays forever. User accounts can be renamed, though. Bureaucrats used to have the ability to do so, with a handy kiddie-friendly WWW user interface, but it's currently offline. Developers can rename accounts by poking their noses directly into the SQL database. Your best bet is to ask a MediaWiki developer about this. Administrators can't do diddly squat about this. — JIP | Talk 16:27, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

reporting a spamvertising user

i browsed the help pages but couldnt find the process for reporting this user: User talk:68.33.42.22 for repeat spamvertising of his website over multiple pages: [8]. (it has now progressed to also removing legitimate links). he has already been warned by another user but continues. i believe the user should be blocked. Niz 18:06, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Try Vandalism in progress or WP:AIV if it is more severe, and has been warned by other users. Tito xd^(?!?) 18:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

IE toolbar support one click login and search for Wikipedia

I wrote an free IE toolbar that allows one click login and search for any web site. Since I really like the content here, I made Widipedia part of the default installation. I know there is already a WikiSearch, but seems to me that most people would use at most one toolbar so a specialized toolbar wouldn't get too much traction. Please take a look at:

http://www.suckingfish.com/jpaging.do?name=toolbar&page=3

and the page after that for screen shots. And I have already added an entry to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toolbar

Thanks,

Matt

Thanks Matt! Add it at Wikipedia:Tools/Browser integration too...! — Catherine\^talk 03:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong article title - how to change?

How does one go about editing an article title? I looked for Cicero, and the article it contains is obviously the one for Cataline. I would like to change the title to Cataline (as I don't know enough about Cicero to write a Cicero article). Would I need to create a new article for Cataline, copy and paste, then put the small amount of info I have in the Cicero article?

If the article is correct but merely misnamed, you can use the MOVE button at the top of each page (next to the edit this page button) to move it to a new location, and then recreate the Cicero article with whatever information you have and mark it as a stub. I have edited your comment to include a link to the article for ease.~~-Lanoitarus 19:06, 16 November 2005 (UTC)~~[reply]

Please, don't move it. An anonymous user had overwritten the article about Cicero we had with the material from Catiline. I have reverted to the correct version which was quite extensive. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:14, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
In that case I rescind my suggestion above. -Lanoitarus 19:41, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

~~How to get a new article to show up in the search results~~
I just submitted my first article on the "Clubhouse Model of Psychosocial Rehabilitation" but cannot make it appear in any search results.
Most people who are looking for information on this topic would simply type "Clubhouse," which immediately takes them to an article about an old T.V. show with the same name. I inserted a link at the top of that article to the page on the psychosocial rehabilitation model.
However, even when I input the complete title of the article, the search does not yield any results and says that one can still create a new article with that title. Interestingly enough, if I cut and paste the title from the article itself, the search results immediately take me to the proper page.
In short: How do I get the title and content of a new article to appear in the search results?
Thank you for your time.
--Universal1300 19:50, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Make sure it is wikified and linked to from relevant articles, so it can get picked up by spiders. The search index gets updated only periodically, because it's kind of a strain on the server, so the best you can do is wait. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:07, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, and they need to do anything they can to reduce load on that database, since they mistakenly chose MySQL over PostGreSQL or any other system which can actually handle a heavy burden. /grumble Kaz 21:22, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~When they made the decision, Slony-I didn't exist yet. --cesarb 23:26, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
Well, they should bite the bullet and port it to...well...almost ANY other relational database. PostGreSQL would retain the same open source, anti-corporate feel and yet perform ten times as well and have more modern features, for example. Kaz 02:32, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Claiming Anon Edits?~~
OK, I know the explanation for how to do this is around, as I ran across it more than once back when I didn't need it. But I am becoming spontaneously logged out with increasing frequency, which is producing a growing number of anonymous edits by me, as I don't always notice in time.
Might someone point me to the explanation of how to claim them, pretty please...Kaz 20:45, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Not posible I'm afaraid. For technical (it is not good for the database) and legal reasons (we would have a hard time proveing it was you).Geni 21:27, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
Oh, and if anyone wanted to explain why my login is lasting an increasingly random amount of time with an ever-diminishing half-life, it'd probably de-stress me a bit. Kaz 20:46, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
This won't directly help, but at least it may help you notice when you are logged in. Go to your CSS file at User:Kazvorpal/monobook.css (assuming you are using the default monobook theme) and make a simple but obvious change. For example, you might just add the line body { border: 2px solid blue; }. This will add a small blue border around the entire page, but it will only be visible when you're logged in. As a somewhat more extreme example, I can very easily tell if I'm logged in because my theme (a modification of monobook) looks very different. —HorsePunchKid→龜 06:53, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Edeting~~
~~How do i make new artical conecteto an existing artical — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.49.215.220 (talk • contribs)~~

Wow. OK, I figure I'd get yelled at by politically correct types if I made a comment about functional illiteracy, so I'll simply answer your question: You put two [ symbols on each side of the name of the article to which you wish to link. Like "I blame [[public education]]". Kaz 21:39, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well I don't care about being yelled at by politically correct types. An encyclopedia edited by illiterates is effectively useless. Perhaps you should learn to spell (and proof read) before you contaminate the site further. Sbz5809 08:15, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Website link keeps getting removed~~
Hi, I have a Nintendogs website and i added it to the links section at the bottom of the Nintendogs page and it keeps getting removed. why is this happening? am i doing something wrong? here is my site:::All Things Nintendogs::
thanks
Generally individuals' fan sites don't get linked from Wikipedia unless they have unique information of clear interest to readers. Could that explain it? -- SCZenz 22:58, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Generally, external links are frowned upon unless they are official pages of the company, or are of particular interest beyond information available in the article itself. Additionally, it is generally considered unacceptable to link to personal sites or for site owners to link to their own sites. If you have information to contribute to the article (and from your site, it certainly appears that you know a fair amount about the game), please do add whatever contributions to the article directly so that wikipedia can continue to expand. You can find more information about our External Links Policy at this page. Welcome! -Lanoitarus 23:14, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Hi, Thank for clearing it up - it makes sense now. Thanks!!~~
~~Question about languages available on the website.~~
Dear Sir or Madam
I am an active user of wikipedia.com and consider it an important reference point at work and in my personal activities. There isn't a service out there that can match the service offered by your website. I was wondering if you were considering other languages on your website namely urdu and arabic. I can appreciate the mammoth task of translating all the electronic material however electronic fonts are available and it would be a great service to users such as myself.
Thank you for your consideration.
Yours faithfully
Imran Sharaf
London
This lists all languages for which Wikipedia is available. However, please note that articles aren't translated directly, so an article on the English site will almost certainly be different to the equivalent article on the Arabic site. And yes both Urdu and Arabic versions are available. However, they are still rather small (Arabic for example only has roughly 7000 articles, while Urdu only has 600), you might consider expanding those yourself. Akamad 22:44, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Where is your headquaters ?~~
~~See Wikimedia Foundation. -- SCZenz 23:03, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~November 17~~
~~Apple buyout?~~
~~did microsoft buy out apple computers~~
~~This was a question for Wikipedia:Reference desk, but the answer is no. -- SCZenz 00:23, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Microsoft does own part of Apple, though. They invested several hundred million dollars in that company at the end of the nineties. Kaz 02:29, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~turntablism category misspelled.~~
~~I don't know if this is the proper forum...but you misspelled "contests" under thecategories listed under the heading "turntablism". !~~
Thank you for the notification, it has been fixed. In future if you ever find a typo or spelling error, please feel free to edit it yourself, because that's what Wikipedia is all about. Akamad 05:01, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Public Domain Eagle Squadron March Alford~~
~~Was unable to download, message came up with red x tbat the site was not available. First time I have tried your site. Could not download.~~
Not sure what exactly you were trying to download, but the media and pictures servers have been having some trouble the past day or so, ive noticed. I would just try again. -Lanoitarus 08:33, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Sexiest Man Alive entry~~
Please reinstate my entry as there is nothing obsene about my post. It merely lists People's Sexiest Man Alive Winners from 1985-2005.
EMail: [email removed]
It took me some time to find the entry and who deleted it. Please make sure you use proper capitalization when referring to an article and link it with brackets like [[this]]. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:37, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

After I'm finished it will be at Sexiest Man Alive. Please read Wikipedia:Tutorial to get a feel for how Wikipedia works. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:45, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~putting "talk" link in signature~~
~~How do you put a "(talk)" link in your signature? I had this in my nickname~~
~~Bubba73]] [[User_talk:Bubba73|(talk)~~
~~and it was working, but it has quit working. How can I fix it? Bubba73 [[User_talk:Bubba73|(talk)]] 05:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
It stopped working when HTML Tidy was switched off. You have to enable raw signatures and write the complete wiki source code, i.e. [[User:Bubba73|Bubba73]] [[User talk:Bubba73|(talk)]], in the signature. — JIP | Talk 05:50, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~That did the trick. Thanks. Bubba73 (talk), 05:55, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Wikipedia:How to fix your signature.--Commander Keane 06:54, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Signature issues~~
Hello! I was hoping someone would be able to help me. I've had a Wikipedia account for about a year now, and have been dabbling a bit. Recently, I noticed that my signature had gone strange, and I can't understand why. When I type ~~~, the result is:
QuantumEleven | [[User_talk:QuantumEleven|(Q11talk)]]
(something similar happens with ~~~~). I checked the "code" (under "Edit Page"), and found that the trouble lay in the opening brackets [[ that begin the "talk" part of my signature are being input as [.
When I type in (manually), [[User_talk:QuantumEleven|(talk)]], the results are okay (like here (talk). But do as I might, I can't seem to get the signature template to accept my typed [[ as regular square brackets instead of their code page equivalents.
Ideas, anyone? QuantumEleven | [[User_talk:QuantumEleven|(Q11talk)]] 07:04, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~The previous point covered my problem exactly. Thanks! You guys must be psychic ;) — QuantumEleven | (talk) 07:12, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~How to insert an external link on a page while editing?~~
--Charlie 08:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Three slightly different syntaxes:

What you want What you type What you get

Show the address
http://my.add.res.s/
http://my.add.res.s/

Just numbered
[http://my.add.res.s/]
[9]

With a label
[http://my.add.res.s/ my label]
my label
~~-- jnothman ^talk 10:36, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
Note that the first and third forms should be avoided in the main text, as articles should not rely on external references for completeness, only to identify the sources of the information in the article and to provide further reading. There are exception, but if you think that you need one of these two forms in the main text you should think very carefully about whether you are being compatible with the aims of Wikipedia. --David Woolley 13:34, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The primary valid exception would be if the external link is used as a citation[10] for controversial or unsual facts. -Lanoitarus 16:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Different people, same name!~~
Two absolutely different people have the same name. How can i name an article about one of them, if the page name is allready "taken" by the other? The names are really absolutely similar, there is no pseudonym or second name i could use.
You find the main difference usually their profession and then name you page accordingly e.g. Robert Lawson (architect), and the put a link on the page titled with just the name e.g Robert Lawson. If there are lots with the same name you could make a disambiguation page, if you are new though probably best to ask an administrator to do that for you especially if it involves moving or renaming an existing page. It's quite easy to do, but can be a little tricky the first time, and could upset the original editors. Giano | talk 17:39, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~I'd be happy to help out. Just let me know what article you are trying to write. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:19, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Possible Media CD's~~
I am a big Wiki fan (per say).. and feel that the site covers alot of info.. both info found in most encyclopedia's and fictional. I use this site for alot of research. I was wondering if its possible to get Wiki on CD. Possibly as an Encyclopedia like Encarta. If this is possible, please let me know how I can go about getting a CD.
Please note that Wikipedia is a wiki but not all wikis are the Wikipedia. So using "wiki" as a nickname for Wikipedia is not always thought highly of. As far as your question goes, Wikipedia is not currently available on CD but there have been articles in the news lately about some possible projects like this coming to fruition. Dismas|^(talk) 18:41, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~heidi fleiss~~
A friend mentioned heidi fliess in an email i did not remember who this was. i looked on Wikipedia. It said, among other things "She is in the process of building a brothel in Las Vegas that is an exact replica of the White House." Prostitution is ILLEGAL inside of Las Vegas.
If you find information in an article that is incorrect, you can change it. Wikipedia is a wiki which means that any user can update the information on most any page. Dismas|^(talk) 18:54, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Prostitution is indeed illegal in all of Clark County. I did find several reliable sources which support the "white house brothel" story, but both say "Nevada", not "Las Vegas". There's also no indication that construction is actually underway; both sources say she wants to build it, but neither says she has obtained the financing. I've updated our Heidi Fleiss article accordingly. -- Finlay Mcwalter | Talk 19:14, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Need help using REDIRECT~~
When I enter the search terms "Island Falls", it takes me to a page with a redirect on it to Island Falls, Maine. Okay.
But, I just added an article on Island Falls, Saskatchewan to Wikipedia. It should also be listed on the Island Falls Redirect page, but I can't figure out the syntax.
How can I make the Redirect page list two redirects, thus:
Island Falls, Maine
Island Falls, Saskatchewan

Thanks.
Dave
You can't, but you can create a disambiguation page for that effect. I'll go look. Tito xd^(?!?) 19:14, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Great job on that article! By the way, when you post something to talk pages, sign it using four tildes (~~~~) so it provides a link to your user page. Tito xd^(?!?) 19:31, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~problems with Patience Worth article~~
How and where do I report a page that needs attention? I (and, according to the discussion page, at least one other reader) find the article on Patience Worth to be more like a rant by its author than an encyclopedia article, but I don't want to just re-write it, since I fear getting into some sort of revert war. Also, I could have sworn that this article used to be much more objective and thorough, but this earlier version of the page is nowhere to be found when you visit the page's history. Is it possible that someone tampered with the history page?
--anon
Placing {{NPOV}} at the top will indicate a dispute of the article neutrality. Adding {{cleanup}} will request that it be worked on. (Note: these templates are case sensitive). RJFJR 19:56, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I added the templates. Comments about why it isn't NPOV (Non-Neutral point of view) should be left on the talk page. It is now in the category of pages needing cleanup. Eventually someone will work on it; but there are a large number of pages awaiting cleanup. RJFJR 20:00, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Using Wikipedia texts.~~
Dear Sirs:
1. Some publications have granted me a license in writing to translate into Portuguese their articles in English, and circulate them among my 200 contacts. I do this for pleasure, without any commercial interest.
Sometimes I would like to enrich the translation. For example, if the original article in English would say "then, in the Middle Ages," maybe I would like to mark the Portuguese translation:
"então, na Idade Média(*)......." (*) Nota (Note) A Idade Média constitui o período médio numa divisão esquemática tradicional da história européia em três "idades" a civilização clássica da Antiguidade, a Idade Média, e os tempos modernos. Vide, a propósito, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_ages
I really translated into Portuguese, as a note, the first line of the mentioned Wikipedia text, and after that I mentioned the page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_ages)
CAN I DO THAT?
2. Sometimes I wish just to translate a text from Wikipedia and send them to my contacts. That is, I would copy and paste the text from Wikipedia to my Compose email page and translate it into Portuguese, so that, in the end, the text would be entirely in Portuguese - except for the link, that I would always mention: imagine the following text would already be translated into Portuguese:
"The Middle Ages formed the middle period in a traditional schematic division of European history into three "ages": the classical civilization of Antiquity, the Middle Ages, and modern times. The Middle Ages of Western Europe are commonly dated from the end of the Western Roman Empire (5th century) until the rise of national monarchies, the start of European overseas exploration, the humanist revival, and the Protestant Reformation starting in 1517. These various changes all mark the beginning of the Early Modern period that preceded the Industrial Revolution.
The corresponding adjective, from the Latin medium aevum, is most commonly spelled medieval in both American English and British English. Less commonly it is spelled mediaeval in British English, and rarely today with the Latin letter æ (mediæval), except to emphasise its Latin origins or as an antiquated spelling."
Vide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_ages
In short, I don't have any interest in posting Wikipedia texts to any site, but I would love to translate them into Portuguese to send them to my contacts.
Can I do that?
Thank you for your kind attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.140.6.111 (talk • contribs)
~~It appears you are asking about the copyright status of the articles. All Wikipedia articles are licensed under the GNU license, which means:~~
"You may copy and distribute the Document in any medium, either commercially or noncommercially, provided that this License, the copyright notices, and the license notice saying this License applies to the Document are reproduced in all copies, and that you add no other conditions whatsoever to those of this License. You may not use technical measures to obstruct or control the reading or further copying of the copies you make or distribute."
~~More copyright information is available here which states:~~
"Wikipedia content can be copied, modified, and redistributed so long as the new version grants the same freedoms to others and acknowledges the authors of the Wikipedia article used (a direct link back to the article satisfies our author credit requirement)."
So you are more than welcome to copy, translate and distribute any articles appearing on Wikipedia (in fact many people, including myself, encourage that), so long as you attach the GNU license. And as to translating to other languages, that too is something that is encouraged, in fact Wikipedia has a Portuguese version, which currently has over 80 000 articles. I am not sure if you are aware of how Wikipedia works, but basically, it's a free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit. So a fantastically helpful thing you can do is to translate articles from the English Wikipedia to the Portuguese one. To learn more about editing and creating Wikipedia articles, have a look at this introduction.
~~Hope that helps. - Akamad 00:20, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
(after collision)

You can do so, provided that you comply with the Gnu Free Documentation Licence to the extent normally expected of people re-using material from Wikipedia. That at least includes acknowledging Wikipedia as the source and including a complete, unmodified, copy of the licence text. Strictly speaking, you should also include all the copyright owners (found by searching the History tab, and add a History section).
~~However, it would be much better if you contributed the translation to the Portuguese Wikipedia, or merged them with existing articles there (and merged those article back into the English ones).~~
Note that there already is an Idade Média article, so you wouldn't have to add a note, you could just use a Wiki link. (It seems to have been tagged as needing cleanup, and I strongly suspect the second image is a copyright violation.)
~~--David Woolley 00:46, 18 November 2005 (UTC), re-edit 10:37, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~November 18~~
~~Talk without the article~~
~~I encountered Talk:Information of VIJAY, a talk page without an article. Do I have to do anything to this, like send it to WP:CSD? -- Perfecto 05:45, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~I think it's standard for a deleted article (e.g. this one) to have its talk page stick around. -- SCZenz 05:49, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
From WP:CSD: Talk pages of already deleted pages [can be speedied] unless they contain records of the deletion discussion and are linked from Wikipedia:Archived delete debates (this doesn't apply if the deletion discussion is logged elsewhere, like an AfD sub-page or other log). - Mgm|^(talk) 08:16, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I think there is quite many of these around, though; is there a way to find them? — Sverdrup 14:31, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Tahar ben jalloun~~
Les raisins de la galere is a 1995 publication of TBJ. I am searching for a review or critique and or summary of the theme on migration, emigration and what it means to be an Arab in France today? help and guidance sought please.
~~Pelican Shit nonsense - Please help!~~
This was also posted at WP:AN. NB- I am not an admin. Please can someone protect Pelican Shit and Pelican shit? These are repeatedly vandalised and are recreated after deletion. I have put Template:deletedpage on them but they aren't actually protected. (I think). -195.188.51.4 12:47, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Navigating back up the category tree~~
If I use the search feature to find something, I can see the category tree from that point down, but I haven't figured out how to find out where I am in the greater scheme of things. For instance, when I searched for "Baseball" I was intrigued by the fact that I didn't see a category that would lead me to "red sox." (I'm sure there is one, though.) So I entered "Red Sox" into the search field. But I still couldn't figure out where "Red Sox" fell in the greater scheme of "baseball." I expect I'm just blind.
Thanks, Laurel
~~I assume that you are referring to Category:Basketball, not the results of a search for "Basketball".~~
The structure isn't a tree. The structure should be a directed acyclic graph, with the reverse structure a mirror image of the forward structure. I wouldn't be surprised if there was no enforcement of either the directed or the mirror image requirements.
~~Most contributors put a rather low priority on categorisation, so categories are likely to be inconsistent, except where someone takes responsibility for one.~~
The updward links are given at the bottom of the page, in a shaded box.

--David Woolley 14:02, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I shared your interest in, and frustration with, Wikipedia's categories when I first started getting involved. In an effort to see if it might be possible to lay out a category structure so that it could be comprehended, I created the U.S. History map for the categories in one corner of the wiki, hoping it would prove useful enough that someone might undertake to write some code to generate it. The result was disappointing-- the fact that it is not a tree structure makes it messy enough that I found it didn't add much to my grasp of the categorization (though I think I may have picked a particularly messy corner to try it on).

Still, I'd love it if someone would come up with a way to add a category to one's watchlist such that one could see articles being added or dropped from the category, subcats added or deleted, etc. -- Mwanner | Talk 14:26, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Removing 'cleanup' tags after editing~~
I have edited some articles with cleanup tags, but I haven't removed the tags, even when I think the article is now OK. Is it OK to remove the tag myself, or is there a peer-review process or something? Thanks, Squiddy 14:42, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to simply remove the cleanup tag if you are comfortable that the requested cleanup has been done. There is no approval process needed. It might be a good idea to put a note on the talk page saying that you removed the tag and why you thought this was proper -- that is, why you thought the needed work had been done. If others disagree, they can discuss the matter on the talk page, and possibly repalce the tag. DES ^(talk) 16:41, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Thanks, I will do this. Squiddy 18:16, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~how do I change my title?~~
~~I am a newbi and have recently written an article however I would like to change the name of it. Is this possible? --LPW 15:08, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
This is doen via a process called "moving" the article. if you are loged in and not too new you will see a "move" tab at the top of the display when you show the article. If you click mthis tab, you can simply type in the new title and the reason for the move. If this tab doesn't appear, or if you want assistance in doing the move, you can list it at our requested moves page or ask any admin or experienced user to assist you. You will need to indicate what article you want moved and what the new title should be. DES ^(talk) 16:13, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at his edit history, I think that what he actually needs is a merge, not a move. The most obvious destination name (other than a capitalisation change) already exists, as a redirect to the an article under the most specific word in the title. I'll flag it now.... Oops it has already moved, to a re-arranged title, but still needs a merge. --David Woolley 17:57, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~high schools in the u.s~~
i'm currently a high school student in france (paris) and i'll love to go over to the u.s to continui my education. for now i'm in a classe called (1ère année de Bac Pro service)so if am to continui in the u.s what class am i goin to be in?
~~This page is for questions about Wikipedia and how to use it. Please put factual questions at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. Dismas|^(talk) 18:13, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~read!~~
~~HAve you checked your multiple sclerosis article lately? someones been messing with it me thinks.~~
Thank you for the notification, the mistake appears to have been fixed. In future if you ever find a typo, spelling error, or an act of vandalism on an article such as that, please feel free to edit it yourself, because that's what Wikipedia is all about. Akamad 22:40, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~close mis-spelling would aid search~~
I was looking up information on wine critic Jilly Goolden, but assumed that the spelling of her last name was GOULDEN. That spelling yielded NO results using the Search function. What's the proper procedure for including an incorrect spelling of a word or name in an article solely to help people find what they're looking for?
BTW: Since the article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jilly_Goolden is poorly written, I'm planning to make changes myself.
Simply edit Jilly Goulden (the misspelled article) by writing #REDIRECT [[Jilly Goolden]] in the edit window. If you do you will have made a redirect page which automatically points to the correct article. It will take a while to show up in the search engine, though. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:25, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've just made the redirect for ya. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:27, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, whilst it won't show up in search, it will show up when you press "Go" - this does a direct check on the database for the name, and if it doesn't have it goes to the search index. So redirects of misspellings, since they prevent a search having to be done, are effectively "immediately active" (well, maybe a minute's lag). Shimgray | talk | 22:21, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~breakdancing~~
~~what are the 3 dance styles that have influenced breakdancing?~~
~~I have moved this question to the reference desk, because factual questions such as this should be asked there. Akamad 22:43, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~login to other languages~~
Hello,
I just created an account and logged in successfully. I would like to be able to use the same account when I edit in French, is this possible? (And which steps am I to take?)
If on the other hand it is not possible, am I a priori allowed to create an account on the French wiki with the same handle and password?
Thanks!Elephas
At the present time, you must create a separate account on each wikimedia project (each langauge, and also wiktionary, wikibooks, etc etc). You can use the same username unlesss soemone else has already registered that name. Propoisals have been made for a "single-sign-on" to all the projects, but the fact that in many cases different users have already registered the same user name on different project causes a problewm for any such system. DES ^(talk) 23:06, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~how do i use a talk page~~
~~how do i contribute on the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.238.25 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
The same way you contribute on this page, hit "edit this page". If you are wondering how to get to the talk page; first go to the page you want to talk about. The second tab in (labelled "discussion") is what you want. - Trevor MacInnis (Talk | Contribs) 23:47, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
(after edit conflict) You click on the tab "discussion" at the top of the page you want to discuss. This will display the talk page. Then edit that page or a section of it.

To add a comment to an existing section (thread) simply click the edit link just above the start of that section, and add your comment -- usaully at the bottom. Please sign your comment with four tildas (like this ~~~~).

To create a new section click the "+" tab at the top of the talk page, and you will be presented with a box in which you can enter the section title and text for the section. The new section will be added at the bottom of the page. Again, please sign your comment with four tildas. DES ^(talk) 23:52, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~November 19~~
~~Need to be sure of Tildes~~
~~May I have an example of Four Tildes, I read up on it, however I need to see an example, to be sure of what they are. User:GoodDay 00:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC).[reply]~~
~~~~ --David Woolley 00:11, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Kava Culture in Tonga~~
I would be interested in knowing who posted the information about the use of Kava in Tonga on your site. The reason is because I went to Tonga about a year ago and from what I could see, the information is wrong. I did not want to edit the page because I felt more research should be done first, but from my own observations women are perfectly welcomed to drink Kava with the men. Also the women do not have to be single and I never once was given the impression that any of us were treated in a sexist manner, especially the local women. May experience may have been unique, but it might be an issue worth looking into further and editing. Thank you, --Adrienne Lear
~~You can find all the people who contributed to the page and what they contributed, by using the History tab.~~
However, please note that your eyewitness account would count as original research, and is inadmissable on the article page, though acceptable on the talk page. To be admissable, you need an independent source that can be referenced. I believe that would include a photograph, even if you took it.
Assuming you mean Kava culture, that page has no References section, although some of the extnernal links may be mis-placed references. Its author really ought to be able to cite a reference for the claim that you are challenging. However, you shouldn't remove the claim until you have given him a reasonable opportunity to provide them and have used due dillegence to find them for yourself.
~~--David Woolley 11:20, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~how to get info. on revised petition no.2276 of 2004~~
~~Cite sources~~
I edited an entry about Congresswoman Eddie Bernice Johnson of Texas and don't know where to put my sources. I used the Congessional Black Caucus websitehttp://www.congressionalblackcaucus.net/, The Congressional Record and the Biographical Directory of the United States Congress 1774-Present. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazzzlover1971 (talk • contribs) 2005-11-18 23:57:58 (UTC)
There are several options for citing sources. The easiest thing to do, probably, will be to look at an article that cites sources and copy the format it uses. For example, Blackface cites a wide variety of sources. I can provide more detail if that isn't enough to get started. Hope that helps! —HorsePunchKid→龜 2005-10-19 06:05:26Z
~~Pilot #5~~
Pilot #5 is a film, [11]. The Wikipedia software redirects this to Pilot (looking for the heading "5"). What is a suitable alternative name for Pilot #5?--Commander Keane 08:39, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Here's what I'd do, given that I can't seem to trick Wikipedia into letting me edit an article with a # in its name (even with various encodings for the symbol).
Create an article with a bogus name like Pilot no. 5.

Use the {{wrongtitle}} template on the page and make it clear that it's supposed to be written Pilot #5.

List the page on the Pilot disambiguation page, since that's where people are going to get taken when they search for "Pilot #5".

I'll be curious if a more direct solution is possible, though! —HorsePunchKid→龜 2005-10-19 08:50:27Z
Cheers.--Commander Keane 18:42, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just stumbled across this during unrelated browsing. It looks like there is no known workaround. —HorsePunchKid→龜 2005-10-19 23:39:24Z
~~Problems logging in~~
Hi,
I'm having problems logging into wiki. i would ordinarily just create a new account, however, I am using wiki as part of a group project on malaria that we are developing here at the University of Oxford as part of our Global Health Masters programme. This means I need access to this specific account. We were each given a piece of paper with our wiki details on, but mine don't seem to be working - the details I have are: Miss Jessica Bryan, <password deleted, but should be considered compromised> and <email deleted - see instructions>. Would anyone be able to help me out here?
Thanks,
Jess Bryan
-As I type there is no user account registered on this wiki under the name Miss Jessica Bryan. If you want to register this name, then you can create the account in the usual way. Use a different password though, as even though the one you gave above has been deleted it is still available in the page history. As a side note, don't use wiki as an abbreviation for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a wiki, but not all wikis are the Wikipedia. --Kwekubo 13:01, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Note there's a reasonable possibility that the wiki you mean to access is not wikipedia, but some other wiki run at a different URL. You might want to verify you're tyring to access the right wiki. -- Rick Block (talk) 19:55, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Contributions on the topic of protection from pornography and preditors~~
Hi, my name is kittywaymo. I freelance for various community protection groups.
I was wondering if there is a section that I might contribute some date concerning the following topics:
1. Pornography and the Family
2. Closeted (meaning they are living a double life, as mormon men, usually married etc. seeking same-gender companionship)gay-mormon internet community
3.Protecting our children from "preditory" behavior of adult males addicted to pornography. (i.e. law enforcement agencies, state and federal, civic organizations to go to for help if you discover someone is a preditor etc.)

4. Any hard-data contributions (i.e. studies, stats etc. ) What area would I contribute this under?
Thank you,
Kitty205.208.239.29 12:28, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
You can find the relevant articles (such as Pornography, Family values, The closet, Mormonism, Homosexuality, Pedophilia, etc) but make sure your contributions conform to our neutral point of view policy and you don't use any original research. -Greg Asche (talk) 18:46, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~QUESTION ON CHANGE OF TANK ATMOSPHERE~~
RESPECTED SIR,
IN L.P.G AND L.N.G SEA TRANSPORT WHAT IS THE CORRECT PROCEEDURE OF CHANGING TANK ATMOSPHERE. I.E IF A PARTICULAR TANK HAS CARRIED PROPANE AND IMMIDIEATELY AFTER THIS METHANE HAS TO BE LOADED HOW IS THE TANK ATMOSPHERE CHANGED SO AS THE NEXT CARGO DOES NOT GET CONTAMINATED. THANKING YOU IN ANTICIPATION
~~Please read the instructions at the top of this page.~~
Please don't post in all capital letters. On the internet it signifies screaming and is considered rude.

Factual questions like this belong on the reference desk. This page is for questions about wikipedia itself.
~~-- Mgm|^(talk) 15:50, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Seeing multiple page edits as one on watchlist~~
Hi, I feel like I should've figured this out by now, but apparently I haven't. It kind of bugs me that multiple edits to a page only appear as the most recent one. I always forget to check that there may have been edits before it, but after I last saw the page, that are thus invisible in diff's. Doesn't this bug anyone else?
I see now in preferences > Recent changes, there's an option that says "Enhanced recent changes (JavaScript)" which I don't have ticked. Perhaps this is what I want. I'm a bit way of Javscript. Is there a page that shows what the enhancements actually are, or could someone kindly tell me?
cheers, TIA --pfctdayelise 16:21, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for but if you look at an article's history you will see radio buttons next to each edit so that you may compare different edits that may have occurred days or even months apart. Also, when you view the most recent difference there is a link above the previous version of the page (the yellow version on the left) that says "Previous edit". This will step you back one edit at a time. Dismas|^(talk) 19:17, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I know, but I don't want to have to manually inspect the history of every page on my watchlist to make sure only one edit was made since I last checked my watchlist. Am I explaining myself clearly? pfctdayelise 23:02, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, seeing all recent edits of watched pages would be better, like Enhanced recent changes does for all pages.--Patrick 00:11, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
YES! That's exactly what I want. I tried it out and it's perfect. Now, why doesn't it do that for my watchlist as well? pfctdayelise 13:47, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Usage of "if" template~~
For some reason, {{if}} isn't working correctly for me. I was trying to make a table ({{Saffir-Simpson small}}) right-aligned if the parameter align wasn't specified, or else use the parameter if specified. It didn't default to right-aligned when align was not specified - it remained left-aligned. In the template was the code align="{{if|{{{align}}}|{{{align}}}|right}}". The code with the context is at this link. Thanks for any help! --AySz88^-^ 20:20, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
If you put a pipe symbol default after the first parameter it should work fine: align="{{if|{{{align|}}}|{{{align}}}|right}}". If you want to see a lot of {{if}}s in action, take a look at {{language}}. --Gareth Hughes 20:49, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
That did it; thank you! --AySz88^-^ 04:21, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~CSS classes~~
I've just noticed the CSS attribute class="boilerplate metadata" in something I was editting. Could someone point me to the place where the style class is defined, so I can see if it's appropriate? --Gareth Hughes 20:53, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
You might want to check out this CSS file, assuming you're using monobook. I could find the boilerplate class in any of them[12][13][14][15], but at least the main monobook one defines the metadata class. Hope that helps! —HorsePunchKid→龜 2005-10-19 22:55:59Z
~~Deleting a revision~~
~~is it possible to delete a revision for privacy issues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackola (talk • contribs)~~
I believe it is possible, but only in exceptional circumstances. It involves tinkering directly with the database, which is not something to be done lightly. —HorsePunchKid→龜 2005-10-19 22:50:06Z
Any admin can do it without messing around in the database. They delete the whole article and then restore the versions with no privacy problems. If you need this done, you should probably ask at WP:AN. --GraemeL ^(talk) 23:00, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Good to know! Thanks for setting me straight. —HorsePunchKid→龜 2005-10-19 23:55:56Z~~
~~Making Articles~~
~~How do you make an article on Wikipedia?~~
~~This page should provide you with all the information you need. Akamad 00:11, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~November 20~~
~~Randomn~~
I might have many questions since im a new user but this is a very randomn question and i feel that there should be a space for randomn questions like mines any ways can some oe tell me where i can find a page worth of inso on how does temperature effect density. Because i am not able to find it here and u guys seem smart so thnx oh and if i am doing this wrong pleaze tell mebecause i dont wanna get into a poopie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kutakente (talk • contribs)
Hi, Kutakente. I do not have a specific page to point you to, but I think you'll get a better response over at the science reference desk. There is a little bit of information at Density, but it's not a detailed discussion about how temperature can affect density. —HorsePunchKid→龜 2005-10-20 02:36:59Z
~~FYROM. Is that true?~~
Dear friends,
Thank you, you are doing an excellent work! You are very helpful!
However I feel the need to contact you about an issue. While I was discussing on MSN with a French friend about an item and I asked him to have a look on Wikipedia in order to confirm which of us was right, he answered me that I should not believe what you are writing because is not always right and that you are not objective! He also gave me an example with FYROM on this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic of_Macedonia
He said that even though Wikipedia is referring to the fact that FYROM is the formal name of this country -which both UN and EU are accepting-, you are using the name “Republic of Macedonia” taking by this way, position in favour of one of the two parties on a name dispute with Greeks.
I don’t understand. Is that true? Are you in favour of one of the two parties then? If not why you are not using the formal name of this country as the United Nations and European Union does?
I'm looking forward to hear from you.
Thank you, Adam (West Midlands-UK)
Hi, Adam. It's is Wikipedia's policy to not take a point of view on topics like this, though sometimes situations can come up in which it is impossible to simultaneously satisfy both parties to a dispute. For more information on this particular topic, I encourage you to read through the talk page for the article, for example, the discussion here regarding naming. —HorsePunchKid→龜 2005-10-20 02:33:08Z
~~Trinidad & Tobago article edit~~
Can you update the Trinidad & Tobago page about it's latest accomplishment as a nation to be the smallest (least populated) country to ever qualify at the FIFA World Cup? They have qualified for the World Cup in Germany 2006.
Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs changing, please feel free to make whatever changes you feel are needed. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit any article by simply following the Edit this page link. You don't even need to log in! (Although there are some reasons why you might like to...) The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use out the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. —HorsePunchKid→龜 2005-10-20 02:34:41Z

~~I NEED AN ANSWER FOR THE SUDOKU PUZZLE!!!!~~
i need the answers for thursdays soduko puzzle for a school project. if anyone has them....please email them to me at (e-mail removed) and title it sudoku. i need them for a school project (which is pretty dumb) because i missed the paper. please anyone gelp me!
~*~danny~*~
Hi Danny. We wouldn't know which Sudoku puzzle you're wanting an answer about - we're an encyclopedia, not a publisher of Sudoku puzzles. And we don't help with homework - that's something you need to do yourself. Sorry ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 03:16, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
We have an informative article about Sudoku which might help you learn the rules of this simple puzzle and solve it yourself. Otherwise you may like to look at http://sudoku.sourceforge.net/ - a free online Sudoku solver application. -=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 03:22, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Furthermore, Danny, please read the notice at the top of the page- please don't post in all capitals, and please don't leave your e-mail address. Deltabeignet 07:26, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~largest entries~~
~~how do i find the largest entries in wikipedia~~
~~Try Special:Longpages. Deltabeignet 07:34, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]~~
--Michael--
Are there any plans for Wikipedia to host OWL ontologies, to support collaberative ontology authoring? This would brilliant - imagine the possibilities of a semantic-wiki.
I know there are already sites doing this, but they are fairly inconvenient at the moment (IMO).

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