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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors with "In the news"

• In Lebanon, Israeli airstrikes against Hezbollah kill at least 558 people and injure more than 1,835 others.

This states as fact the Israeli position that the airstrikes against target in Lebanon are "Hezbollah". It is very dangerous to have this blatant one-sided claim on the Main Page.

proposed change: In Lebanon, Israeli airstrikes kill at least 558 people and injure more than 1,835 others. --Fjmustak (talk) 11:27, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm not seeing how this is "one sided". It is factually correct to say Israel is attacking Hezbollah in Lebanon. 331dot (talk) 12:46, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Said to target Hezbollah? -- Sca (talk) 13:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Said is better, but it uses the passive voice (said by whom?)... If we must use "Hezbollah" in the blurb, could it perhaps be said to be : "as part of the Israel-Hezbollah conflict", or maybe "in an escalation in the Israel-Hezbollah conflict? --Fjmustak (talk) 13:38, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

The blurb should summarise what the target article states. It starts Since 23 September 2024, the Israeli military states that it has conducted around 1,500 attacks on Hezbollah positions in Lebanon. The blurb could be altered to state the same: * In Lebanon, Israeli airstrikes on Hezbollah positions kill at least 558 people and injure more than 1,835 others. There can then be no argument about the blurb misrepresenting what's in the article.

I note, however, that the article's neutrality is disputed. Whether that disqualifies this blurb from appearing is for others to comment on. Bazza 7 (talk) 13:25, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

The summarization you've proposed leaves out a critical element of the lede (that the Israeli military states). The summary states it as a fact, not as a claim. --Fjmustak (talk) 14:50, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(September 27, tomorrow)

Monday's FL

(September 30)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

Notice to administrators: When fixing POTD errors, please update the corresponding regular version (i.e. without "protected" in the page title) in addition to the Main Page version linked below.

General discussion

The portrait of Portia Simpson-Miller and brief of her victory in the Jamaican general election

Se os ve el plumero, el portrait de esta señora has been for almost a week in main page. You are descaradamente ideologically and politically biased. 81.60.184.130 (talk) 17:59, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes we are idealogically biased. We require free photos of which there are none for any of the more recent items. This shouldn't surprise you though. We advertise in every page that we are a free encylopaedia and do it twice on the main page. Nil Einne (talk) 18:17, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

The ideological bias accusation is silly, but this photo has been on the main page for about a week. I'm not sure any photo has ever been on the main page for so long. This seems really excessive. There's really no free photo of any kind that could illustrate any other recent news story? Rickterp (talk) 18:32, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

It's happened several times before. Lugo is probably the most famous but there have been other cases. This time of year also tends to have it more often since there tends to be less stuff for ITN. Heck just recently we had people complaining about Kim Jong-il Nil Einne (talk) 18:35, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

He's back

Did someone mention Lugo? Modest Genius ^talk 18:53, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

• Go back to hiding! I was going to call you! Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:45, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

All hail Lugo! Lugnuts (talk) 07:38, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Corrections to make in the mobile Wikipedia main page

Hello,

In the mobile Wikipedia home page en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, I read “Today's Featured Article” and “In The News”. These are not proper nouns. Please smash This Ridiculous English-Newspaper-Style Capitalization Of Everything. In the Wikipedia Manual of Style, we have Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters which tells not to put Capital Letters Everywhere. Let's set a good example in the home page. In the normal Wikipedia home page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, the texts are correct : “Today's featured article” and “In the news”.

Thanks.

--Nnemo (talk) 02:31, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

It appears these were set in rev:94564 and can be changed at MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-featured-article and MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-news-items. I don't have a mobile device and don't know whether the capitals were chosen for a reason. On small screens it may be easier to read the headings with capitals, and then interested users might be able to zoom in on the below text. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:52, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I really don't think these capital letters have such a reason of existence. ;-) But anyway, the capital letters take more space than the lowercase letters, so for small devices it is even more required to user small letters.

--Nnemo (talk) 08:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done. Per WP:MOSHEAD, section headings are in sentence case, not title case. howcheng {chat} 09:43, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your investigation ! MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-featured-article and MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-news-items can not be changed, they are locked.

--Nnemo (talk) 18:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Protected pages can still be edited, they just require an administrator account on Wikipedia. Prodego ^talk 07:46, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Several days later, I decided to verify that my changes worked, and yes indeed the capitalization is correct, although I suppose I can't say for sure that someone else didn't do something to it—I suppose I could test it by making another change then reloading the page, but I also don't know if caching is involved, either.. howcheng {chat} 22:08, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

New picture + first line should be related

I've noticed that very often when news is posted, it's not the 1st story which the picture relates to.

Lets change this to alleviate confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panarchy (talk • contribs) 11:13, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Please see the entry in the FAQ about this. Modest Genius ^talk 11:21, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

I've often thought that the knee jerk dismissal of people with this complaint by telling them essentially "we know, that's how we do it, if you don't like it tough" was not the right tactic. This complaint comes up repeatedly, so it is obviously something that should be given a great deal of thought. I've often thought that breaking the "In the news" section into two parts, the item with an image and all other items in chronological order, would alleviate the problem.--Khajidha (talk) 16:03, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

It *has* received a great amount of thought, particularly during the long-but-abortive main page redesign proposal a year or two ago. The major stumbling blocks were a) mobile sites and other transclusions, b) design and layout considerations and c) inertia. If someone has a *new* proposal on how to address these, please do make it. But rehashing the same arguments again and again is unproductive, and at the very least people need to be aware of why the status quo is the way it is, and what the previous stumbling-blocks were. Modest Genius ^talk 16:24, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

And how does treating the item with a picture as a special case (always going first) introduce any problems beyond those that already exist? --Khajidha (talk) 17:27, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

It's something we try to do, but there's not always a free image available for the first item. That's why Portia Simpson-Miller (and Fernando Lugo, of course) stayed up for days. howcheng {chat} 17:42, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

I think the OP is suggesting the item is kept at the top even if it's not chronological order. The general objection to this is there is already sufficient complaints about items receiving too much attention because they have a picture, to give them even more attention by keeping them at the top is unwanted by some. We got enough complaints when we tried bolding. Nil Einne (talk) 18:03, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Sopa banner

I think we should place a black Stop SOPA banner across the top of the home page, and link it to Stop Online Piracy Act. Other than that change, the home page content should remain the same. This law threatens the viability of Wkipedia. We should do more to notify readers. Jehochman ^Talk 05:15, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Please forward your comments to Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Coordinated SOPA reaction in early 2012 RfC, where the Wikipedia community is discussing a proposed response to SOPA. A similar debate is also being held at Wikipedia:SOPA initiative. Thank you. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:28, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia blackout protest

I recently received an E-Mail from Demand Progress encouraging users to donate to Wikipedia to mitigate losses from a complete server shutdown as a protest movement against SOPA/PIPA.

C'mon guys, really? Is Wikipedia intending to go on a full shutdown just to protest SOPA? If so, would this "Protest" extend to other Wikimedia sister sites?

You'd be better off redirecting to stopcensorship.org or some other anti-SOPA/PIPA website with a custom header telling people to visit wikipedia via it's IP address (As that's all what SOPA would really do, last I heard; Block domain names, not IP addresses.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.196.150 (talk) 04:15, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

See above Nil Einne (talk) 15:27, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't know who could have sent that email - but I wouldn't click on any links in it. Running the servers is an expense to Wikipedia, not a source of income anyway. All our income is from donations. 75.41.110.200 (talk) 16:03, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

On this day... Section

Hi. I was browsing through On this day... historical section and couldn't find "1991 - Soviet Union troops attack Lithuanian independence supporters in Vilnius, killing 14 people and wounding 1000.".

Well, given its historical importance, I truly let myself believe that it is far more important historical event than something like: "1968 – American singer Johnny Cash recorded his landmark album At Folsom Prison live at the Folsom State Prison in Folsom, California...

Since this day is even today marked as a great remembrance day with a large number of events in Lithuania, I'd deem "1991 - Soviet Union troops attack Lithuanian independence supporters in Vilnius, killing 14 people and wounding 1000." to be highly relevant in today's world and worth mention on wikipedia's main page. What do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RammyJuice (talk • contribs) 09:48, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

January Events (Lithuania) is currently ineligible to appear as a bold link in the "On this day" section because it is tagged with {{more footnotes}}. See point 8 of Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries#Criteria for listing items on this set of pages. Bencherlite^Talk 10:00, 13 January 2012 (UTC)