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August 6

Bad link on "List of Futurologists" Page

I was just reading through the "List of Futurologists" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_futurologists) and saw that under George Orwell there was a link (George Orwell - Complete works), to a website (http://www.george-orwell.org/). When I clicked on this Chrome warned me that the website contained malware. I figured that wikipedia wouldn't link me to anything with malware so I told Chrome to proceed however no website loaded and my anti-virus software notified me of several attacks coming from the website. I know this might not be the right place for this and I should probably remove the link but it's past 1am here in the UK and I shouldn't really be up this late anyway with work tomorrow so I don't really want to go through the effort of creating an account or whatever you have to do to edit wikipedia pages so I'm leaving this here hoping that someone will see it and act on it, if it's still there tomorrow evening I'll come back and get rid of it.

Please note I'm not criticising wikipedia, I love this website as one of the cornerstones of the internet, I just don't want someone without internet security to get screwed by whichever genius decided to create a website about George Orwell as a virus host.

Keep up the good work!

Will Trewinnard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.207.69.49 (talk) 00:24, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done [1]. This URL was added in 2008[2] so it is likely the site has simply been compromised. BigNate37_(T) 04:34, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

And you could have fixed it yourself without registering, although there are advantages to doing so.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:43, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Foundary factory

Dear Sir, I am looking for Foundary Factory in Shah Alam. Is it possible to get a list of the foundary factory? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.129.53.208 (talk) 03:11, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:22, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

PLEASE HELP

I recently was accused of an edit war but I was only trying to rvert vandalism. How do I make the reason vandalism on the revert edit page, many thanks: Danjel101 (talk) 04:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I looked over your edits. See WP:VANDALISM. You seem to be using the word vandalism to mean "Something I do not disagree with". Instead, there is a clear disagreement between yourself and another editor over the proper content of an article. Since both of you are acting from a place of trying to make Wikipedia better, neither of you is vandalizing. Since both of you are trying to make Wikipedia better, you need to talk it out on the article talk page. That is what it is for. Stop trying to force your own ideas through, and instead discuss the matter in a civil manner. Give the discussion a few days, and if after a few days it doesn't get anywhere, seek extra help at some place like WP:DRN or WP:3O. Don't rush things. --Jayron32 04:55, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Location

For cite news, I'd like to find the location where the source was published, but can't find it. Help? Thanks, TBrandley 05:37, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

If it is a newspaper, it should be the home city of the paper. What is the name of the source? --Jayron32 05:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. It is for various references. TBrandley 07:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Here is one example. TBrandley 07:34, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

You don't need to write the location... You are simply very nitpicky regarding references; instead you need to carefully re-read the prose. As for your question: Simply search for it everywhere on the site. It is often found at the bottom of a page or in the About page. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 07:49, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Print publications need places of publication, but citations to online publications are completely different. You'd have to provide the city where the website's servers are located, which would be both extremely difficult to discern and quite irrelevant for someone who's trying to find the source in question, and that's the sole reason that we provide publication information in citations. Nyttend (talk) 12:41, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Though not essential, it can still be useful to know the location of an online source, particularly with a website that covers a certain geographical area or real-world institution, but you don't need to give the server location: instead if you think it's useful, give the city that's the main address of the editorial or publishing staff, or give the geographical focus. (For certain tasks like showing notability we need to know if something has local or international coverage, so having publishing locations is useful.) Only if it's useful, though: if you have trouble finding the location, it's probably not very important. --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:17, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

List of rail-road related periodicals

May I suggest that it would be rather more belpful to your readers if the countrues were foirst srted by CONTINENT?

The are four A-continent headings plus Europe viz: Africa; Americas; Asia; Australasia; Europe You could split 'Americas' into 'America North' and 'America South' if you so desire.

I am trying to find a magazine dealing with Asian railways and your preent lay-out is something of a hotch potch.

Best wishes - Roger Lascelles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.7.32 (talk) 08:30, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

A question/suggestion. Why don't you divide your title list first by continent and then by country within each such heading? It would make life much easier for your readers.

eg Africa; America North; America South; Asia; Australasia; Europe.

Best wishes - Roger Lascelles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.7.32 (talk) 08:38, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

To help other editors the list is here: List of railroad-related periodicals. I think it seems reasonable for someone to categorise it by continent, although some may find the purely alphabetical listing is easier. You could make the change yourself, or ask on Talk:List of railroad-related periodicals or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains. --Colapeninsula (talk) 12:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

What to do if you suspect an editor may be mentally ill or incompetent

What is the correct (and humane) way to handle a situation where one suspects that an editor is mentally deficient in some way and their edits are disruptive? How does one protect WP without harming the dignity (and possibly fragile mental condition) of the person concerned. Roger (talk) 09:42, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

• Off-wiki. Uncle G (talk) 10:11, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

The essays Wikipedia:Competence is required and Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not therapy cover this. --Colapeninsula (talk) 12:08, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

To expand on what Uncle G said, use the email this user feature Although I'm not clear on who to email.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

In extreme cases where an editor's conduct is causing serious disruption and there are reasons for not addressing the matter on-wiki, a report may be made via e-mail to the Arbitration Committee. Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:36, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I also found this.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:43, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

• Block them. Tarc (talk) 02:09, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

As a mentally ill person I find this question and the way it is worded to be misleading and possibly creating unfair stigma if an editor is indeed suffering from a mental illness. There is no need to treat people with mental illnesses as any different from anyone else or to assume that we are somehow more fragile or indeed "mentally deficient". I hope I haven't responded in a way that is too direct, but I think this is an issue I must comment on because of the view of people with mental illnesses it presents

Move Title

Hi for all,

I'm interested to put a correct title in one article (link: EPortuguêse (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)).

My question is that possible to put this tiltle "ePORTUGUESe" instead of the actual one "ePortuguêse", to prove this difference check this official website of this world health organization program ( link: http://www.who.int/eportuguese/en/ )

Best regards, Jorge Costa - Portuguese Student of Integrated Masters Degree in Pharmaceutical Sciences — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jocostinha (talk • contribs) 13:11, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

The page you cite uses the spelling "ePORTUGUESe" three times and "ePORTUGUÊSe" eleven times, so I don't think you should claim it as evidence for the former spelling. Maproom (talk) 14:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Format?

Today I was introduced to a new Wikipedia page layout. The difference is shocking. I hate it. Biggest grief: it now takes one extra click to get to a search box. It used to be at the top of the page. Any chance you could revert to the old format? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.54.94.24 (talk • contribs)

The layout hasn't changed (for me at least), but you might have temporary problems because the site just recovered from a crash. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 14:53, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Primary sources

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Is the use of primary sources in Delta Flyer and Animation International appropriate? I ask, because after I tagged Delta Flyer with {{Primary sources}}, another user immediately tagged Animation International with the same template. Are both of those taggings correct? If yes, how should I proceed? Should I try to replace the primary sources with secondary sources (if that is possible)? In case of Animation International, I think the only primary source is cite no 2 (I am not sure about no 3). In case of Delta Flyer, both of the cited sources appear to be primary sources. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

You should try to replace them with non-primary sources (and yes,the taggings were correct). Mdann52 (talk) 15:44, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

So in Animation International, I should replace cite no. 3 then? What I said above is probably false, I don't think cite no. 2 is a primary source (at least I don't think Hong Kong Trade Development Council is controlled by Animation International or vice versa). In Delta Flyer I guess both sources need to be replaced. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:58, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

User Mdann52 keeps deleting a page I created that needs to be made

• University of Louisville School of Medicine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

To Whom It May Concern:

I am a novice editor to Wikipedia, creating my first article.

Specifically, I am trying to create an article an article for the University of Louisville School of Medicine, one of the earliest M.D. granting institutions in the United States with MAJOR innovations (U of L School of Medicine created the first emergency room, first successful long-term hand transplant). The U of L School of Medicine Page originally just redirected to the U of L page. Mdann52 keeps reverting it back, and I'm such a novice, I don't know how to communicate with him.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ARTICLE! What can I do to at least have an open discussion/vote/what not about keeping it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.30.172.228 (talk) 16:17, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

What I suggest you do is create a new section in our article on the University of Louisville. You can discuss your interest on the University's article's talk page, but please don't try to recreate it as a separate article. If at some point it grows disproportionately large at the UL page, it could then perhaps be spun off into a separate article. Dougweller (talk) 16:30, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Here's the thing though. As the University of Louisville is separate from the University of Louisville School of Medicine, I don't think the "spin off" attitude is a very good one to have. People won't write about the Medical School's culture, elaborate on its accomplishments, etc. because the article is regarding U of L and NOT U of L School of Medicine. In order to see additions regarding U of L's Medical School, you need to have an article where these additions are appropriate. 50.30.172.228 (talk) 17:03, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

If we had a section on the U of L School of Medicine, we could also have a redirect to the subtopic on the U of L page so that users searching for U of L School of Medicine would find the section at the U of L article. BigNate37_(T) 17:16, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Like I said before, people won't write about the Medical School's culture, elaborate on its accomplishments, etc. because the article is regarding U of L and NOT U of L School of Medicine. Having the medical school as a subsection of the U of L article will engender edits that don't go in depth into the medical school.

Think about it pragmatically. If a person wanted to add details about Arnold Griswold and U of L's role in the creation of the first trauma centers, he/she wouldn't add it to a subtopic of the U of L article. It's way too specific and would be out of place for a general inclusion article. You're never going to get people to write a lot about the School of Medicine without an article for the School of Medicine! The precedent is there for other medical schools -- every single other M.D. granting medical school in the United States has an article except for the University of Louisville. That's a travesty!! You don't just add a subsection to encompass a 175 year old school! Regards, 50.30.172.228 (talk) 17:26, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

A few suggestions:-

1. STOP SHOUTING - you will not help your case by putting things in capitals
2. Take time to understand Wikipedia's house rules - particularly WP:3RR, WP:RS + WP:NPOV
3. Find some reliable secondary references - not the school's own website, which is prone to be biased
   Has the school received extensive coverage in an independant medical journal? - or on a course comparison website?
   If not, you need to understand the Notability Requirements
   You have included some (fairly vague) references in the talk page, but not on the article page itself
4. Open an account and copy the article to your WP:Sandbox where you can work on it until it is ready for public criticism

Arjayay (talk) 17:28, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

The problem is, I don't have the time! 50.30.172.228 (talk) 17:30, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

That's okay; there is no deadline here. If it matters to somebody, they will do the work; if not, no harm is being done. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:50, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

The Silo - Information Was Removed

Hello, I am inquiring about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silo as I represent thesilo.ca and have been trying for many days (months even) to update our Wikipedia page and add in our content (once again) after it was removed on us for no apparent reason. Almost immediately after I updated the page recently, all of my content was removed and I would like to know why. I don't believe anything we are doing is wrong as we are not trying to remove their content, but just trying to have our content available as well on the wiki page as well. Originally we were listed on Wikipedia first (and our content was removed) and our paper and website have been established since before the other paper as well. Some clarification would be appreciated. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southy24 (talk • contribs) 18:05, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

The comment for the undo says that the article is about a different paper than the one you are adding info for. RudolfRed (talk) 18:17, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Our existing article The Silo was created on 4 August 2011, and has always been about a newspaper in Lesotho. It is not "your Wikipedia page", and information about a Canadian publication does not belong on it, which is why it has been removed. If there was an earlier page about the Canadian newspaper, it may have been deleted at some point before this article was created. If you want to write about the newspaper in Canada with the same title, you will need to create an entirely separate article about it, perhaps calling it The Silo (Canadian newspaper) or similar. You can then use disambiguation to differentiate this article from the one about the Lesotho newspaper. However, there are two caveats. First, you will need to demonstrate that the Canadian newspaper is notable enough under Wikipedia's guidelines to be the subject of an article. The general notability guideline is here and the specific guideline for organisations is here; the newspaper must satisfy one of them. Second, if you represent the newspaper then you have a conflict of interest and are strongly discouraged from writing about it on Wikipedia because of our neutrality policy. A couple of possible strategies are to assemble an article and citations and request it be created at Wikipedia:Articles for creation, or to draft it in a user sandbox and seek feedback before going live, declaring your interest as you have done here. Hope this makes things clearer - do ask for further help if you need it. - Karenjc 19:00, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

<math>\fint</math> in wikipedia

I'm trying to write a formula that includes the LaTeX \fint command. You can see it in here (page 28, left to the "\fint" command. It shows a large f in the size of an integral, which looks like an integral sign ($\int$) with a diagonal line (somewhat like $\angle \!\!\!\!{\color {White}\_\!\_\!\_}$) on it). Wikimedia's LaTeX renderer doesn't support this command, but is there any work around you can recommend? Thanks a million, 79.177.247.64 (talk) 18:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I guess you'd need to contact the developers for this. I searched some archives for similar problems and found Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 36#Adding symbols to TeX. CBM states there you'd need to file an "enhancement" bug in bugzilla. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 19:02, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

The only immediate (and kind of awkward) solution I could think of right now short of filing a bug at bugzilla would be to upload the symbol (or better the entire formula containing the symbol) as an image file and add that at the spot in the article where the formula is supposed to appear (maybe transcluded inside a template). -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 19:09, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Disagreement about using Cite templates

I find myself disagreeing with a fellow editor about the correct way to use Template:Cite in inline references. The other editor is inserting an additional full stop/period between the closing braces of the cite template and the close ref markup {{cite|Source details blah blah}}.</ref> - for further details please see the discussion at Talk:Oscar Pistorius#Punctuation at the end of footnotes. Thanks Roger (talk) 18:41, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Punctuation should be appearing outside the <ref> tags, as appropriate. The references themselves will contain all the requisite punctuation as-is when displayed via {{reflist}}, so you should only be using punctuation in the sentences that is already necessary. BigNate37_(T) 19:14, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I think you're missing the point - the editor concerned is doing this in order to add extra punctuation to the citation itself because he believes the text of the citation should itself be a sentence. Please look at the discussion at the article talk page. Roger (talk) 19:35, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I did read that discussion. Perhaps my discussion of punctuation in the surrounding text was extraneous; I meant it along the lines of "this is the only punctuation in and around reference tags that you ought to have." No punctuation should be going inside the <ref> tags. BigNate37_(T) 20:12, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

The applicable guideline is WP:CITEVAR: "Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style merely on the grounds of personal preference, or without first seeking consensus for the change." ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 21:32, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

What to do?

Guys, I really need help. The article Religion in Turkey has been temporary fully protected recently, so that the content dispute could be managed. Problem is, the protection requester doesn't want to discuss on the talk page, even after I literally begged. What should I do? I certainly don't want to vandalise Wikipedia by making my changes tommorow (when the protection runs out) without any discussion. Help, please, 109.92.219.199 (talk) 18:58, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Is there a way to ask an administraror the same question? 109.92.219.199 (talk) 18:58, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

If there's no possibility to help me, say so; don't just leave unanswered. 109.92.219.199 (talk) 19:38, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

You just need to be patient. If someone can help you, they will. RudolfRed (talk) 19:50, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

You may wish to familiarize yourself with the steps at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. Per Wikipedia:Protection policy#Content disputes, you should be discussing the matter and attempting to reach a consensus. Where that fails, the dispute resolution policy will guide you on what steps to take next. BigNate37_(T) 19:53, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this wasn't helpful, since all the dispute solution ways assume 'extensive discussion on the talk page', which is currently totally avoided by user called Saguamundi. How can I notify Saguamundi that discussion is needed. Can you do that instead of me, since I'm not registered? Btw, it's content dispute, but it also could be user conduct dispute since the particular user keeps reverting (and requesting protection) without any discussion. 178.223.212.72 (talk) 22:10, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

You don't strictly *need* to have discussed it on a talk page (though if it's possible, it's preferred and helpful). You could post to the dispute resolution noticeboard. I did so once without there being a talk page discussion. You could also just start a discussion on the talk page even if the other user won't participate, so that a consensus could be reached on what content should go into the article anyway. - Purplewowies (talk) 22:34, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

STRATHAIRD ESTATE ,ISLE OF SKYE

I SPENT A COUPLE OF DAYS TYPEING A STORY ABOUT MY ANCESTORS WHO PURCHASED STRATHAIRD ESTATE IN 1789 ,AND HOW MY LINE OF MACALISTERS WERE DONE OUT OF THE ESTATE BY A GRANDSON OF MY ANCESTORS 2ND MARRIAGE ,WHEN THE MAIN MALE LINE WERE OUT HERE IN AUSTRALIA,PIONEERING GIPPSLAND IN VICTORIA IN 1839.WHEN I FINALLY FINISHED AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS AND PRESSED THE SEND BUTTON ,A MESSAGE CAME UP THAT SAID THERE WAS AN ERROR,AND TO WAIT .WELL THIS MORNING WHEN I CAME IN TO SEE IF THE ERROR WAS FIXED ,THE PAGE WITH MY STOREY WAS GONE.I WANT TO KNOW IF MY STORY GOT THROUGH AND IS ON THE SITE REGARDING STRATHAIRD. MAX MACALISTER — Preceding unsigned comment added by MAX MACALISTER ESQ. (talk • contribs) 23:21, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry but it does not look like the page was saved. Your account has made 2 edits, the one above and your feedback. Both were made today. DO you still have a copy of what you wrote? GB fan 00:01, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Please don't SHOUT! at us. From your description it seems your article is Original Research which means it is unsuitable for Wikipedia. Roger (talk) 09:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

If you leave an edit page open for hours or days, it is quite likely that your session will expire, and you will not be able to save it. If it takes you a long time to create the page, you should save intermediate versions. If you work in your sandbox, nobody will trouble you (unless you commit a copyright violation). However, an article about your ancestors and their history is not acceptable to Wikipedia unless everything in it is referenced to independent reliable sources. --ColinFine (talk) 19:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Víctor Jara

Víctor Jara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Since the page includes a) a listing of songs mentioning Jara b) a listing of theatre works about Jara c) a listing of tribute albums d) listing of documentary films; e) and an artwork by another artist, that you remove artworks (which restore dignity to Jara's life and work) by other artists is absurd, discriminatory, unethical and unprofessional. Rather than removing new or recently added art portraying Victor Jara, there anything should be a listing of art portraying the artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akiva K Segan (talk • contribs) 23:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

We must respect the copyright of the other artists, as well as that of Jara. That's not discrimination, it's common ethics and professionalism. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

August 7

Why do my edits/external links disappear?

I'm just beginning to add information to wikipedia. But the external links that I add disappear after a few hours. I'm not sure why they are being taken down or by whom. For instance, under the listing for Robert Creeley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Creeley), I added an external link to a review of his book Life & Death that was published in The Boston Review (http://bostonreview.net/BR23.5/Gander.html). My external link appears for a few hours and then disappears. Same thing happens with an external link to a review published in The Nation (http://forrestgander.com/roberto%20bolano/index.html) that I added to Roberto Bolano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Bolano). These are informational reviews published in renowned journals. What am I getting wrong? Thanks for any advice. 01:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forthgone (talk • contribs)

I looked at the history for Robert Creeley and your edits were removed by Spanglej (talk · contribs) with an edit summary of "rv personal website. Please read WP:EL" You should discuss with them why they removed the links. They also removed the links on Roberto Bolaño. GB fan 01:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

AWB help

How do you make AWB update your signature? Thanks, TBrandley 01:45, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

In File:Wikify tag removal by Auto Wiki Browser.png notice that the bottom is split into three sections. The middle section has a dropdown menu that says summary at the top. In this image it says clean up and/or fixing typos. You can choose one of the default messages or type in your own. Ryan Vesey 01:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

The best venue to ask this is WT:AWB. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 10:55, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Disappearing Box-with-an-Arrow

Look at these two examples of sentences with external links:

For the sentence in question, I found substitutes, based on a great new source that I discovered -- BPC's "Indefensible" white paper here.

For the sentence in question, I found a series of substitutes, based on a great new source that I discovered -- BPC's "Indefensible" white paper here.

On my monitor and browser (IE 8.0.6001.18702), the first sentence ends with a "box-with-an-arrow" diagram and the second one does not. (If what you see if different, read further.) The box is replaced on the second sentence with spaces between the word "here" and the period. This is only for full-screen on a somewhat old (read small) monitor at 100% zoom. If I shrink the page horizontally or increase the zoom factor, the box-with-an-arrow on the first sentence disappears as well.

Both have the same external link, consisting of a left-square-bracket, the URL preceded by an http-colon, one space, the explanatory text and a right-square-bracket. The only difference between the two sentences is the words "a series of". Apparently, the explanatory text must fit on one display line. (If you have too large a monitor, try shrinking the page by pulling the right side closer to the left until the second sentence, but not the first, occupies two lines.)

The real trouble is that this also happens in a citation, such as:

Task Force on Defense Budget and Strategy (June 7, 2012). "Indefensible: The Sequester's Mechanics and Adverse Effects on National and Economic Security". Bipartisan Policy Center. pp. 5, 25. Retrieved August 5, 2012.

The box-with-an-arrow is missing between Economic Security and Bipartisan. Again, on my monitor, full-screen, 100% zoom.

Can you think of anything that would avoid having the box disappear, at least for certain display widths? (And, by the way, what is the official name of the box-with-an-arrow?) --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 02:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

It's called external link icon. See Help:External link icons. I have heard of this browser issue before but don't know a fix. I see the icon in IE9 but it disappears when I choose compatibility view [3] in IE9. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

The icon displays OK for me in Firefox v12.0.--ukexpat (talk) 13:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Production

How do you think Production information for episodes of television? Thanks! TBrandley 02:59, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Could you clarify please. Your question seems like a sentence fragment to me. Dismas|^(talk) 03:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, for Game Day (Awake), my article, I am interesting in finding more information for the "Production" section. For this show, since there is no DVD commentary, etc, its hard to find other than a few sentences, and am requesting help for this. Thanks! TBrandley 03:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

It may be that there are simply no reliable sources for this information. If so, then the information may not appear in Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 19:39, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Categories "Art genres" vs "Art movements"

I was looking for Surrealism under Art genres (which I arrived at by typing WIKI ART CATEGORIES in a search engine) and couldn't find it (but it is under the category Art movements.) I'm just a bit puzzled about the distinction and wonder if these categories should be merged, or at least if there could be some sort of hatnote at the top explaining what the category covers, and suggesting the visitor might instead want to check the other category. Tetsuo (talk) 05:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I have added a see also link to Category:Art movements near the top of Category:Art genres. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Tetsuo (talk) 05:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

for zooming wiki page

how to zoom wikipedia page????the lettes are tooo smaallll.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.216.70.53 (talk) 06:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Which browser do you have? FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 06:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Ctrl++ or ⌘ Command++ usually works. - Purplewowies (talk) 07:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Or Ctrl + mouse wheel. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 10:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Regarding 2012 mesh terms

2012 mesh terms cannot be updated on wikipedia pages. Please can you rectify it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeadlynightshade (talk • contribs) 08:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I think this is about MeSH. What goes wrong if you try to update them? Maproom (talk) 09:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Help desk

Help desk

I haven't heard of MeSH before but it appears to be an issue with {{Infobox disease}}. I examined the source code of the infobox. You can add the undocumented parameter MeshYear = 2012 as I did in the second infobox to the right where the MeSH link works. The default year in the infobox is 2011. I don't know whether the default should be changed to 2012. Is there a reason for 2011 or is it just missing a yearly update? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeadlynightshade (talk • contribs) 15:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Userbox

How do I see all the userboxes I can use?Crystalfile (talk) 12:08, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

They are all listed in Category:Userboxes, pick the ones you want. Roger (talk) 12:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I want to put option 20 of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:User_in_Israel on my user page. thank you Crystalfile (talk) 13:13, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Add this code to your user page: {{User in Israel|20}}--ukexpat (talk) 13:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Missing Article

Dear all,

Apologies for asking what is probably a simple query. I recently submitted an article to be reviewed but now when i log in and click on My Contributions the most recent changes are not listed. I would be grateful for some guidance as to where to find the article so I can make any neccessary alterations. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.231.203.66 (talk) 14:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Can you tell us the name of the article and the name of the account or the exact IP adress under which you submitted it? The IP under which you posted your message here did not submit any articles -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:05, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Question about formatting references

Where would I post to ask a specific question about formatting references? In the article suffix tree ther are references of the form "([6] page 92)." Where it uses the same reference but then adds the particular page inline. I'm not sure if it would be better to change it. RJFJR (talk) 15:39, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

The best way to do this is using the cite book template. Mdann52 (talk) 15:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I've asked at Help talk:Citation Style 1 and here, but I don't know if the former is right for this question or not. There's a template where you just cite the whole source normally, then you add the template after the places where you cite it, and it puts something like ^{[Page 19]} in superscript. I've never used it, though. Also, if that's the way it's cited throughout the entire article, you might want to get consensus for the change. - Purplewowies (talk) 16:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia XML data

Is it possible to get XML data from certain Wiki pages to keep other software up to date on things like world/country population? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.230.128.211 (talk) 16:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

You might look at WP:XML. I'm not sure if that's exactly what you want or not (I'm stupid when it comes to this type of thing), but I figured I might as well post it. - Purplewowies (talk) 16:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Note that AFAIK there is no automatic mechanism to update such information in Wikipedia, so relying on it in other places may not be a good idea. --ColinFine (talk) 19:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I figured it out! I guess you can get XML data on world/country population from CIA WorldFactbook. Wiki rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.114.152.9 (talk) 23:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

himalayas

in the himalyan climatic condition soap is used for bathing are not in the himalayas can we use sun glasses — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.133.58.98 (talk) 16:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 17:23, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

TRAIN TO GANDHIDHAM/BHUJ.

'NO TRAINS TO KUTCH DISTRICT OF GUJARAT''''

There is no train service available from Ahmedabad to Bhuj or GandhiDham after morning 06.45 am till night 12 O Clock.CAN INDIAN GOVT(MINISTRY OF RAILWAY) LOOK INTO THE MATTER WHICH WILL BE A GREAT RELIEF FOR THE PEOPLE OF KUTCH DISTRICT.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.38.26.35 (talk) 17:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

This page is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. If you're having trouble with train service, you'll need to contact someone else. RudolfRed (talk) 18:00, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

But my, are those weird hours. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 05:25, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

You can get contact details for the Ministry of Railways via the "contact us" section on their website here. --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:16, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

"sortable" table does not sort

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_Film:_An_Odyssey_(table)

The Story of Film - TABLE has columns which are supposed to be sortable. Clicking on the header of the columns does NOT produce a sorted list. HOW do I cause sorting to execute? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.138.228.253 (talk) 18:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

How are you trying to sort them? (Like, what method? Numeric? Alphabetical?) - Purplewowies (talk) 19:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

It appears to sort when I click the headings. Can you explain more what problem you are seeing? RudolfRed (talk) 19:17, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Do you have JavaScript enabled? BigNate37_(T) 19:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

URGENTLY NEEDS CHANGING

Someone has edits Taylor Swift's Wikipedia page and has said she died on the 28th June 2012, this is obviously not true and I am disgusted that this has been allowed to happen. She has millions of fans around the world and we all agree this needs changing immediately! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.218.156.76 (talk) 20:19, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

See below...--ukexpat (talk) 21:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Taylor Swift

Taylor Swift is NOT DEAD!!!!! shes alive and well PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE change it!!!!!! That IS sssssssooooooooo Wrong D: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.235.208 (talk) 20:21, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

This, and other, vandalism to the Taylor Swift article has recently been corrected. Maproom (talk) 20:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Sir Arthur Edward Trevor Benson Colonial Governor Nothern Rhodesia

The list of Colonial Governors of Northern Rhodesia correctly includes my Grandfather, but the link is to an Arthur Christopher Benson and not the same person at all! I would be really grateful if this could be corrected. My name is Elizabeth Yeld. My mother is Jane Galloway nee Benson who is his younger daughter. 86.173.252.251 (talk) 20:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

 Fixed - I turned into a redlink with this edit.--ukexpat (talk) 21:05, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

and turned from red to blue with Arthur Benson (governor). MilborneOne (talk) 21:49, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Redirection - Iestism

Could someone please (create and) redirect Somethingism, Believer without religion and Belief without religion to Ietsism. 77.46.182.116 (talk) 21:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects? 2001:5C0:1000:A:0:0:0:3D5 (talk) 23:21, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Question: Are you sure Ietsism is a better target than Spiritual but not religious or Religious pluralism for the latter two? BigNate37_(T) 00:41, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, yes, since the SBNR rejects the organized religion while ietsism does not and belief is different than spirituality (which is either religious (like prayer) or non-theistic (like meditation)). As for religious pluralism, it seems to be further philosophy of ecumenism (maybe like interfaith dialogue) and syncretism (like Baha'i Faith in Abrahamic clause), or belief beyond religion, but not without it. 217.65.192.104 (talk) 01:05, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, your point that SBNR rejects organized religion seems to me to make it a more appropriate target for "belief without religion", whereas ietsism is more along the lines of "belief without specificity." I've included SBNR and ietsism in each other's See also sections, since they are related, so a reader would still be presented with both concepts in any event. BigNate37_(T) 01:37, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

 Partly done: I have created the latter two as redirects from synonyms, directing them at spiritual but not religious rather than at ietsism. SBNR has 35 1.4 million google hits, whereas ietsism only has 11 thousand. The more common search term should take priority, where a term is applicable to both. I'll stick a hatnote on SBNR. If you disagree you may wish to raise the issue at redirects for discussion. BigNate37_(T) 01:46, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Qustioned → Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion#August 8 93.87.210.14 (talk) 05:41, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Redirection - Jubilee School

Could someone please (create and) redirect The Jubilee School, Jubilee Institute and The Jubilee Institute to Jubilee School? 77.46.182.116 (talk) 21:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Electric Catfish 22:18, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

changing/uploading a photograph

I'd like to change a photograph on an article I maintain. I don't know how to upload a photo and then replace the existing photo! (I have tried the upload form but it doesn't seem to go anywhere once I fill it out) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PearlyG (talk • contribs) 22:08, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi! What you do is just click on that picture in the article you maintain. It will show the page followed by a bunch of copyright information. Down near the bottom of the page, there will be a link that says "Upload a new version of this file". Click it, then you will be able to upload a new version. Hope that helps! :)

ChrisStyles (talk) 23:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but I can't find any link - and someone else put the existing photo up, not me. It isn't a bad photo and is from a good event, but is there a way to upload a second photo and add it to the article? p..g.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PearlyG (talk • contribs) 00:33, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

That is only if you want to replace the photo with a new version. That's not how I read your request. You simply want to upload an additional photo and then replace the one that's in the article with the new one while leaving the original photo on our servers for use in other places.

What you need to do in this situation is go to WP:UPLOAD and upload your photo. Once done there, you would go to the article and find the place where the current image is used. If it's in an infobox, then it should look something like "image = SomeImage.jpg". Simply replace the SomeImage.jpg with the file name of your image that you've just uploaded. Provide an edit summary saying that you're replacing the image, save the article and you're done. Dismas|^(talk) 01:34, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

That sounds very helpful, thank you. Is it ever acceptable to have two photos within an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PearlyG (talk • contribs) 01:36, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Certainly. Without looking, I'm sure the article on Earth has many images. If it's justified and not just eye candy then that's fine. If the article is short and would actually be lengthened just by having another image, it's likely not worth it. And some articles even have a WP:GALLERY. But it should be justifiable. It should have a reason. So an article on, for example, Jennifer Aniston shouldn't have a gallery of her face again and again. Meanwhile an article on a precious gem might benefit from a gallery due to the gem coming in different colors and such. Dismas|^(talk) 02:47, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Avant Garde filmmakers

The link to Saul Levine on the Marjorie Keller (filmmaker) page takes you to the wrong Saul Levine. The correct Saul Levine is an avant-garde filmmaker who was from New Haven, CT. and taught film at Tufts University in the late '60s and early '70s, still teaches at Mass. College of Art and lives in Boston. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2002:18FE:C3E8:0:21F:F3FF:FEBE:F98E (talk) 22:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I can't find an article on Saul Levine (filmmaker) in Wikipedia, although we do have a Saul Levine (US broadcaster) and a Saul V. Levine (Canadian author). I've pointed this to Saul Levine (filmmaker) as a red link for now. 2001:5C0:1000:A:0:0:0:3D5 (talk) 23:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

My image

Hi,

My image appears in the article on Margaret Thatcher and I am wondering if the picture could be removed. The image is here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lady_Thatcher_at_dinner_2008_crop.jpg. I discussed this on the talk page of the main article and managed to get the caption changed (it did say that Thatcher was "surrounded by Young Conservatives), but I was directed here to see if the picture could be removed. Five years ago my friend's parents, who are Conservative councillors, asked if I could help out at local council event. They knew that I was interested in politics and knew that I was a Labour supporter, but said that the event would be interesting whatever your political stripes. I got to the event and it was very Conservative, but it was still quite interesting to talk to people with different views. I didn't want to be rude so I helped out and poured drinks as agreed. The other helpers (I don't know if they were Young Conservatives) and I were fed, and then this picture was taken. Now, I am not and have never been a Conservative and could not have anticipated this photo finding its way onto Wikipedia. The whole experience was quite surreal and Mrs Tatcher was old and frail, and I think that it would have been very rude to make a fuss about not having my picture taken with her. Now, I am actually about to finish my masters and I'm interesting in getting a job in progressive politics, and I'm worried this might really obstruct my efforts. Mrs. Thatcher is a very controversial and divisive figure and I never actually consented to have my image associated with her on the internet in this way. I realise that you cannot totally manage your image on the internet and I recognise that wikipedia is a about sharing information - and I appreciate the great work that you do. But given that this photo adds nothing of great substance to the article, has not received the consent of those in it (my friend is also in it and I know that she has not consented for her image to be used in this way), and could have quite unfortunate consequences, do you think that it could be taken down? It could even be replaced by a far less controversial image by the some Author from the same source (I've checked and there is one).

Sorry to be a bother and thank you for your time. Ogwikitem (talk) 23:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I sympathise with your position - but that, unfortunately, is not a reason for removing the picture. However I also feel that the picture detracts from, rather than improving, the article, and am inclined to remove it (I am an admirer of her achievements). Just above it there is a picture of her aged 80, among eminent politicians, so we don't need another of her, aged 82, surrounded by anonymous teenagers. What do others think? Maproom (talk) 23:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Well as for what consensus might be, the discussion has already been started on the talk page (see Talk:Margaret Thatcher#Incorrect and inappropriate photo). Ogwikitem was sent here to see what else could be done rather than to do some forum shopping; to that end, a look into dispute resolution might be advised (with the dispute resolution noticeboard being a likely next stop). However if Ogwikitem feels that this is a personality rights issue rather than a content dispute issue, s/he ought to contact WP:OTRS regarding the image itself (my advise is do not bother complaining about its use in the article but rather object to the image directly, as you are not the article's subject). I do not know how OTRS will view this matter, but I do know that they are rather prompt. BigNate37_(T) 01:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I support the removal; I see that it has already happened.SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

August 8

Jacob Michelson

Dear admin,

I need help on this URL. Jacob Michelson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Jacob Michelson has been deleted by A7 with a post of No explanation of the subject's significance. I wanted to edit this name to Jacob Yasha Michelson and put him back on wikipedia with a post of everything he has done so far

Is this possible and what are the next steps I need to take?

He is the producer of Sonhos de Peixe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Also a founder of a dance technique.

I do hope you can help me to put his name (edited) back on Wikipedia to put his name back on Wikipedia.

Thank you.

Nathalie

108.250.226.17 (talk) 00:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

You can follow the step at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Dismas|^(talk) 01:16, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Please see our notability policy, which explains what we mean by asserting subject significance. If you wish to dispute deletion of the article, Wikipedia:Deletion review is what you're after (as Dismas pointed out). To start over on a new article about the subject, you may wish to look into Wikipedia:Articles for creation. BigNate37_(T) 01:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

New Page

I was wondering if you knew how to create a whole new page? If there isn't a button, that is. Like, for example, there are already about 4-5 pages on Wikipedia about Creature Feature, but there isn't a page about the band Creature Feature. I wanted to create a page about the band Creature Feature, but I don't see any buttons or anything to create a page about the band, not edit the page about the comic strip, or the TV Show, or the episode, or the movie. Can you help me out?— Preceding unsigned comment added by SweetandSadistic (talk • contribs)

You need the confirmed or autoconfirmed userright to create pages. If you do not wish to wait until you have fulfilled the requirements to be autoconfirmed, You may use articles for creation to start your new article. (I'm not sure if non-autoconfirmed users have their own sandbox, but if you see a "my sandbox" link along the top of your screen, you may start a draft article there, as well). Before you start your article, please have a look at WP:BAND and make sure that band is notable enough to support inclusion in Wikipedia. Good luck. BigNate37_(T) 01:55, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

So it turns out that the userright requirement to create pages was removed... in 2007. Shows how long I've been hiding under my rock for. (Thanks, Fuhghettaboutit, for pointing this out to me.) To manually start a page about that band, search for Creature Feature (band) in the search bar, and click the red link if the search does not find a page for the band already (it will say "You may create the page 'Creature Feature (band)', but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered," that is where your red link will be). Adding (band) to the end of the title is our standard way to disambiguate between a band and other topics with the same name. You can also wikilink the term Creature Feature (band) and click that red link, or you can manually visit that page by editing the URL in your browser. BigNate37_(T) 02:23, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Both WP:ACCOUNT and WP:CREATE say that you must be registered to create an article, so I'm not sure that that Signpost page is correct. RudolfRed (talk) 06:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Registered, yes, but they do not indicate requiring any specific userright, such as confirmed or autoconfirmed. BigNate37_(T) 06:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost article says that the proposed change was to allow unregistered users to create accounts. That's what I was pointing out, but in a clumsy way. RudolfRed (talk) 15:59, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I get your meaning now. In hindsight it should have been obvious to me, what with "unregistered" right up there in the title. BigNate37_(T) 16:19, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Michael Blakey

Michael Blakey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

why am i having trouble with an article that i started a couple of years ago? due to some bad edits, the article is now in question of notability and may be pulled but it is only due to someone editing 90% of it out today. help?!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mastermusicgenius (talk • contribs) 02:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Because Wikipedia's rules have changed over time, and this BLP currently has no independent in-depth coverage that verifies the individuals's notability. Dru of Id (talk) 03:20, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

The policies havent changed all that much. What more likely has happened is that during most of the article's existence, it lay hidden amongst the 3-4 million other articles and no one noticed that it was full of inappropriate content. -- The Red Pen of Doom 17:06, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Review

Hi there, I am new and here to request that other editors review my new article Brady Wilks. I got a note immediately contesting my article to be deleted and I wanted to know what else I needed to do in regards to references validity etc. I would also like to add photographic process articles that have not been written yet, some related to my current article. I appreciate the feedback and help on my journey into editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stirfriedpenguin (talk • contribs) 04:49, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

It looks like the reason the article was tagged was because the person does not seem to be notable. The general notability guideline states, Articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. (simplified, taken from WP:42). So you need sources to assert notability. Examples of reliable sources include well-known newspapers like the New York Times, magazines or Web content with editorial oversight. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 05:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

famous residents frankfort indiaba

• LT Gen Jay Kelley, USAF
• Brig Gen James W. Lucas, USAF — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.90.23 (talk) 05:41, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

This is the help desk to ask questions on how to use Wikipedia. If you want to make an edit request, request it at the talk page of the article in question. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 06:39, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

basic skills wiki

i was wondering what i would have to do to get a compiled database of skills required to build and maintain a semblance of civilization should suddenly the world turn on its head. Things like composting, ore types and smelting, basic mining, bicycle repair, how to build a battery and many other things that would be compact enough for the average person to download and store on their computer. The option for a basic printout would also be fantastic Zainal77 (talk) 06:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Miscellaneous reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. BigNate37_(T) 07:05, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

If you're talking about compiling information from Wikipedia, you should check out WP:Books. You can create your own book with Wikipedia articles that you would like to include. There are a couple of types of files that you can save to your computer (PDF, OpenOffice), and these can be printed. - Purplewowies (talk) 07:20, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

One Ton Cup in English

Good morning,

I spent the whole day editing the One Ton Cup English web site yesterday. I translated the Existing French One Ton Cup website and put it on the English website which was initially very succinct. When I went to the English website this morning, everything had disappeared. Could you please tell me why?

Please find below the links to both the French and English Website: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Ton_Cup http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Ton_Cup

Looking forward to hearing from you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.242.201.53 (talk) 07:51, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

It seems two editors have edited the article since you finished. Arctic Kangaroo restored content you had deleted, and then undid his own edit with the edit summary "deleted unnecessary content", then Pinethicket removed more with the edit summary "[remove] copy and paste, unsourced and without attribution". I'm not sure who, if either (or both) removed your translation. You might want to discuss the matter with them on their talk pages: Arctic Kangaroo's and Pinethicket's. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 08:21, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Editing my watchlist

I have been trying to edit my watchlist. When I click on "View and edit watchlist", I get a Wikipedia error page. When I click on "Edit raw watchlist", I get a blank page. I have nearly 24,000 pages on my watchlist, so that might have something to do with it. However, with that many pages, I don't remember all of them. If I did, I could type them in individually, and unwatch them that way. How can I rectify this error right now, and how can I prevent this in the future? Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 09:50, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

It will take a long long time but you could start clicking on articles in your watchlist and clicking on the star at the top of the article to unwatch it. Dismas|^(talk) 10:20, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

You ask "how can I prevent this in the future?" Initially I assumed you might have accidentally set "My preferences" so every page you edit is added to your watchlist - but you have 9,900 edits and a watchlist of 24,000 - have you chosen to add all these articles to your watchlist? - Arjayay (talk) 18:03, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried accessing both Special:EditWatchlist and Special:EditWatchlist/raw? BigNate37_(T) 20:13, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I did not activated the preference to add every page I edit to my watchlist. I did choose to add most, if not all, of these pages to my watchlist.

BigNate37, the "View and edit watchlist" link is the Special:EditWatchlist link. The "View and edit watchlist" link is the Special:EditWatchlist/raw link. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 02:19, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

As an amplification of what I am talking about, the Wikipedia error page has the following note at the bottom: "PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.20wmf8/includes/HTMLForm.php line 889:

Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 15789080 bytes)". I hope that will assist whoever tries to help me with this problem. Thank you in advance for your assistance. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 20:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

death of Aurangzeb

He died at ahmednagar. There is a place called Alamgir 1 or 2 km away from Ahmednagar on Bhingar road. There is also a burial place where it is believed that Aurangzeb was buried. Some also say that some part of his body is buried there as he died at that place and his remains were taken to Khuldabad to be buried near his guru's burial place. This was told to me when I had visited the place when in college. May I request you to check the correctness of the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.48.193.203 (talk) 10:54, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Get a source to back it up. The burden rests on you. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 13:54, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

cannot write an article about myself

My name is Rebecca Smith, and I am an accomplished reggae artist. I read the rules, and cannot write an article about myself. I would like to encourage you to check about me...I had a number 13 song in Jamaica called "To The Ceiling.". I am one of the first females of Native American/Irish/Caucasian persuasion to take on the rough and rugged style of Jamaican dance hall reggae. I worked with Steely and Clevie, Maxi Priest's backing band, "The A Team.", and was encouraged in the business by Michael McDonald from the top New York studio," H, C and F", Mikey Dread, Andrew Tosh, Ziggy Marley and many others. thanks, my reggae name is BeccaBoom. I love your site...blessings — Preceding unsigned comment added by BeccaBoom (talk • contribs) 11:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Go on, girl, make the page of yourself. Rules can be broken and the one you mentioned is non-binding. So, you theoretically could make the page of yourself, as long as you submit unbiased and references informations (general rules applying to all newly created articles). 93.87.210.14 (talk) 12:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Writing an article about yourself is frowned upon in most cases because there's a conflict of interest. If you have your heart set on doing it, you might want to do it through articles for creation, where a reviewer will look over it before it is put in the mainspace. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:33, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Vandal report

Please, may someone check 188.10.99.4 (talk · contribs). (S)he did some unexplaind and unreference statistics edits on Religion in Germany and Religion in the Netherlands. 93.87.210.14 (talk) 08:55, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Please, reply!!! 93.87.210.14 (talk) 10:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

It would be better to report the IP to WP:AIV, but the IP hasn't even been warned! FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 13:36, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

As per above, this IP doesn't look like much of a vandal. And it hasn't been warned. Always be sure to assume good faith. --Chris4315 (talk)

Broken link

What to do when the link, crucial to the article's integrity, is non-existent, a.k.a. broken? 93.87.210.14 (talk) 10:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Could you be more specific by maybe pointing out the article in question and what kind of link you're referring to? Dismas|^(talk) 10:55, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

It's Religion in Turkey. Major KONDA's survey is compromised, and some, if not the most, references don't contain the written informations. For example, reference 8 doesn't confirm anything written in the particular paragraph (about 130 words). I just wanted to raise the dispute here, since the discussion on WP:DRN leads nowhere. 93.87.210.14 (talk) 11:19, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

The link to the archived copy of the KONDA survey works for me. Deor (talk) 15:04, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Username problem

Why is Hkhadash (talk · contribs) again appearing as Jubileeschool (talk · contribs)? See Jubilee School's revision history and the forementioned talk pages to see what's going on. Did the username change revert itself or what? 93.87.210.14 (talk) 12:32, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

The username wasn't changed, he merely created a new account, then started using his old account again. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 13:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Referemce on talk page

Hello I have copy pasted article snippet with references[4] on talk page but it doesn't show them.Could someone help/fix it?

Thank you--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 14:01, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

 Fixed - {{Reflist-talk}} does the trick (see this edit). There was a stray <ref> tag preventing it from displaying, which I deleted.--ukexpat (talk) 14:08, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 14:13, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Button or box

As Neotarf asked here, is there a way to put my "More" links at WP:SMOS in a button or box? Art LaPella (talk) 15:14, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, there is. Here's an example, based off of {{Totd b}}. Hope this helps! WikiPuppies _bark ^dig 17:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Almost, but that template doesn't quite do the same thing, as shown at User:Art LaPella/Sandbox. Art LaPella (talk) 20:22, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I've rewritten the template to correct the newline issues...does it work correctly now? WikiPuppies _bark ^dig 21:30, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. I don't really need my second example to work because in each case, the two links are to consecutive paragraphs, so one link would work. Art LaPella (talk) 01:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Never mind. Following the template with &nbsp; prevents the unintended newline. So thank you again. Art LaPella (talk) 02:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Uploading image help

I am wanting to upload a pair of pictures (taken by myself) of a Canadian 50-cent piece for the article, but I'm getting lost on the Numismatics project style guide and the fair use rationale, as all Canadian coin designs are copyrighted to the RCM, though it is clear fair use as noted in the images for all the other Canadian coins we have images for.

Would someone be able to assist me on what the resolution of the image should be and what exactly should be entered in uploading form?

Thanks

Grandmartin11 (talk) 19:15, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi! My suggestion would be to use the traditional upload form at Special:upload, from there, you may upload the photo, select a license (currency copyrights), and add additional information.

Hope that helps! --Chris4315 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:18, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Or, find an image of another Canadian coin and use the same license and non-free use rationale for the images that you want to upload.--ukexpat (talk) 19:36, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Disputed statement

In article Religion in Serbia, there is one disputed statement regarding Islam that says

Adherents belong to either the Islamic Community of Serbia or the Islamic Community in Serbia.

which isn't true. Statement could be reworked, because "belogn to either" means that there are no other Muslim organizations (ot independents, as my neighbours are (4 out of 20 Muslims in the 50,000 people's municipacity)). In Islam in Serbia, I rewrote it to say "two major" instead of just "two". Sentences are different, so I can't do the same to Religion in Serbia. Please, help. 93.86.129.66 (talk) 20:08, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Fixed it myself!!! 93.86.129.66 (talk) 20:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Random page in category not working

{{Random page in category}} isn't working on Category:All articles covered by WikiProject Wikify. Why is this? Ryan Vesey 20:26, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure whats wrong, but it appears to fail on any category with a long name. You may want to contact the tool author, Meta:User talk:Erwin to see if they can help. Monty₈₄₅ 20:50, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I contacted him, but it doesn't look like he's been available recently. I might bring to VPT. Ryan Vesey 22:36, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Influence matrix

I was researching Otto rank and it had a list of influenced by and who he influenced when I clicked on each the pattern continued is there a master matrix diagram that could be made starting with Socrates perhaps and fanning out I'm sure with computers it is just some query to show all the links on one page so it would be easier to digest and not get lost seeing who influenced who? It is probably only a thousand people or so from your links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.1.253.221 (talk) 21:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Finding the source of a formula image by LaTex

I'm writing a JavaScript code that allows to edit the LaTeX code of formulas by double-clicking them, and I was wondering if its possible to determine what's the source of a formula image just by knowing its LaTeX code. e.g. the source of $1+1=2$ is always http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/0/c/f/0cfae383362bc63d7ac429a5755fef05.png. What's the algorithm used to determine a formula's source? Is it available in JS, or at least executable via AJAX? (I was thinking about using other LaTeX rendering engines, such as codecoge's, but sometimes it doesn't give the same result as Wikipedia. It's a problem especially when the external rendering engine supports a command that Wikipedia doesn't or vice versa).

P.S. speaking of which, can you recommend any WYSIWYG online editor for LaTeX? (similar to bakoma-tex, but online, so I can integrate it in Wikipedia).

Thanks a million! 79.177.245.248 (talk) 21:34, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Protected pages of Republican politicians

I understand the need to "lock" or "semi-lock" politician's pages near election time. (Especially after Stephen Colbert recent episode...) Fair is fair though. Shouldn't all of the democrat's pages be "locked" as well? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.94.225.82 (talk) 21:36, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

The articles about republican politicians were most likely semi-protected because of a big amount of vandalism from new and unregistered editors. The articles about democratic politicians are probably unprotected because there has not been a big amount of vandalism from new and unregistered editors. If you want a change to be made to a semi-protected article, follow the directions on Wikipedia:Edit requests. If you feel that an article should be semi-protected, please make a request on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. :) Hadger 22:47, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

To be more specific, it was because of edits involving possible VPs for Romney which received international media attention. See WP:ANI#News and [5] and [6]. Dougweller (talk) 13:21, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

MAJOR Wikipedia injustice

I really don't like to rant, but Wikipeida(ns) have did pretty much causing a big dissapointed in me. Namely, I started using Wikipedia several years ago, as an academic and private information source. Now, about a month ago, I decided I could really help Wikipedia by expanding it. A month ago, I totally reworked article Education in Serbia without any problems. When I got interested in Religion in Europe articles, that's where I got a "bump". Firstly, I strived to make the all (possible) Religion in Europe articles contain the bar boxes about their religiosity. The edit wars began. My edits were viewed as vandalism, unsourced and else. After I thought I really fixed this, I experienced Religion in Turkey and Saguamundi (talk · contribs). Nevertheless, Saguamundi offered no discussion and even requested full protection (which was indeed granted by admin Beeblebrox (talk · contribs)). I raised dispute several times here on the help desk and was redirected to dipute resolution noticeboard where discussion is going. [7] However, I still experience some problems with users even calling me incompetent. See [8] (statement) and [9] (my answer). On dispute resolution noticeboard, I was even accused of supporting 'KONDA agenda', even though it's clearly opposite. Not to mention [10]. What should I do to fix this MAJOR Wikipeida injustice (coming from all directions). I can't leave you just now. I still have some extremely good faith projects as Jubilee School (help its editor). PLEASE, HELP!!! 93.86.129.66 (talk) 18:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, my suggestions for Jubilee School would be, first, to mention what the medium of instruction is (i.e. what language the students are taught in - English, Arabic, French, or several of the above?) Secondly, introduce independent reliable sources - that is, sources that are not connected with the organisation itself. Third, try to ensure that more of the article's content is covered by inline citations to reliable sources.

My suggestions for your activities as an academic working on controversial topics on Wikipedia, would be to consider working on such topics in the language you are most familiar with. You can find Wikipedias in many different languages at http://www.wikipedia.org/ --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:13, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I know nothing about Jubilee School. I just said that I'm currently working on helping the article's editor to update it. As for language, that's really not the question (enorm amount of typoes is because I'm agitated with Wikipedian injustice). As for religion (being controversal), I didn't use any original research - I merely just changed the way informations are written (see it at dispute resolution noticeboard), so I don't thing that's the problem. 93.86.129.66 (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

If you are referring to WP:HD#Redirection - Iestism and the related RfDs when you linked WP:RFD#August 8, then I assume that you are that same editor. In that case, that is hardly an injustice. I disagreed with you and asked for clarification, I made a judgment call based on (your?) clarification and some brief research, and civilly invited you to start a discussion at Redirects for Discussion if you still disagreed (which, if I'm correct in understanding that you are that same IP editor, you have). I wasn't trying to be dismissive: there are some wise editors at RfD who are very good at researching all the potential factors and implications of where redirects point. I know this because I frequent RfD and interact with them regularly. I have every confidence that together we can decide the best course of action. There is no rush, and if my decision was wrong, it will be corrected soon enough. BigNate37_(T) 19:20, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

No!!! I didn't say that was the injustice, I just mentioned it as one of my activities. The real problem is in [11] (disriminatory statement) and [12] (my answer) and [13] (I would call it the problem without the real need). Those two are what I think of as injustices. For the first, regradless of my knowledge what vandalism is, the unreferenced pie charts should totally be removed (since referenced ones ARE available). For the second, injustices are great in number (you'd have to read the whole discussion so far). Please help, 93.86.129.66 (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I see. In reply to your plea: I have read parts of the discussions you have been involved in. I chose only to respond to the redirect matter because that is all I felt qualified to weigh in on. I took another quick look at bits of that dispute, and it's hard to see exactly what is going on because your IP changes so often. While it is your prerogative to continue editing anonymously if you so choose, the burden on the rest of us to play detective when reviewing this sort of situation is discouraging. It is midday for me here, if I can make time this evening I will give your issue another look to see if there is anything I can contribute. From what I can tell right now, things are not simply black and white. BigNate37_(T) 19:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, thank you BigNate37 so much. You're one of the most helpful (and most active) Wikipedians out there. Sadly, I can't do anything else (as an unregistered user) than to thank you. Don't forget that all my IP adresses (disluding those containing minor changes; those were from mobile phone) are written on dispute resolution noticeboard (full list of contribs is right of them). 93.86.129.66 (talk) 20:02, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Again, Gtwfan52 (talk · contribs) is practically threatening me [14]. Will someone, please, tell him not to do so and to fix the problem he has made (non-removal of unreferenced and disputed pie charts in Religion in Germany and Religion in the Netherlands; or anyone esle, since I, as an unregistered user can't). 93.86.129.66 (talk) 22:04, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Why don't you register? It is not difficult, and (rightly or wrongly) people tend to show more respect to registered users. Most vandalism is done by unregistered users. Maproom (talk) 22:25, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

You're soooo right about it. I think it's wrongly (not all IPs are vandals). It could be the cause of all my problems/injustices. Nevertheless, I manually reverted those. Still, Gtwfan52 (talk · contribs) has to be reported (or warned) for misconduct (threat and 'provocation' (he said "here's ya" on his comment for me)). 93.86.129.66 (talk) 22:29, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

While his response to your criticisms was inappropriately rude, Gtwfan52 hasn't seriously interfered with your ability to edit here (that I have seen). It's typically not our way to take punitive measures and my advice to you is to try to put it behind you. His comments about your edit summary were valid, and that's okay: you made a mistake, we all do, and Wikipedia is very transparent so that mistake drew attention. Because he only snapped at you after you criticized him, it's my impression that admonishment would be counter to the goal of deescalation, and that it would be better to leave it alone. nb. I am stepping away and will not reply promptly. BigNate37_(T) 22:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I think you are misunderstanding Gtwfan52's intentions. He asked you not to post to his talk page again; maybe that was rude. But he ended his request, not with "here's ya" (which might be interpreted as impolite), but with "Thank you and here's to ya!". This is not threatening. I interpret it as meaning, he is raising a glass and drinking in your honour (though hoping he will not meet you again). Maproom (talk) 23:06, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, sorry in that case (said the same to Gtwfan52). That's exacly why metaphors (or whatever are these phrases called) are avoided on Wikipedia (for misunderstanding and non-native speakers). 109.93.149.214 (talk) 23:31, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I accept your apology. Now, Gtwfan52 has asked you not to post to his talk page. You have now posted your apology to his talk page. I can't speak for him, but I am guessing he would prefer you not to post there at all. It might be better if you deleted your posting there. Maproom (talk) 23:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

BTW IP, why don't you register? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 00:02, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

August 9

All in info bar

Hi all of Tyler Thaxton's Life is in the info bar could that please be removed 173.65.20.25 (talk) 00:57, 9 August 2012 (UTC)Tt2274

We don't have an article called Tyler Thaxton. In all politeness, what are you talking about? FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 05:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

There was an article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Thaxton but it was deleted, not very long ago. Presumably, the OP saw it before it was deleted and had some concerns. I think only admins can see deleted pages, so I don't know what the exact problem was. RudolfRed (talk) 05:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

The article was deleted 2 hours after the request was filed. Unfortunately, that was 3 hours too early for me. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 12:59, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I saw the article in question, which was nominated as CSD A7 at the time. It seemed to be a 13-year-old singer biography with limited information. I certainly did not see an excessive amount of personal information compared to a typical biography stub. There was an unintelligible file link in the infobox as well, though after a quick peek I gathered that no image was ever uploaded. Suffice to say, this has been taken care of:

• 02:18, 9 August 2012 (UTC) Fuhghettaboutit deleted page Tyler Thaxton (A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

So hopefully that clears up the confusion. Given the preceding, I'm going to mark this one as resolved. BigNate37_(T) 15:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Help

Is there an infobox for "task forces" rather than "WikiProjects". Thanks! TBrandley 01:06, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

AFAIK Infoboxes are use in articles, not Project or Task force pages. Roger (talk) 07:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I'd think he meant userboxes instead. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 12:37, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

No, I mean't there is a Infobox WikiProject, and I'm wondering if there is an Infobox task force, or something similar. TBrandley 16:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand the purpose. You can surely just include a simple infobox? You don't need to borrow the style, just use your own creativity. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 18:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Where I can find a template for requesting plot summary of articles for television series and novel?

Where I can find a template for requesting plot summary of articles for television series and novel?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 01:22, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

You could try {{No plot}} or {{More plot}}. Sarahj2107 (talk) 01:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 03:07, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

National Historic Fleet Core Collection

HSL 102 of the RAF as shown is NOT a motor torpedoe boat but MTB102 of the Royal Navy is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.38.63 (talk) 01:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

refs

I"m lost - help. I thought I followed all the directions, but I see errors regarding all my <ref> annotations. I don't understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlysonDutch (talk • contribs) 05:07, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

You had to add {{reflist}} at the bottom. Art LaPella's done it, but it seems you've listed phrases as references instead of sources! FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 05:25, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

FloBo means this edit. Also, it's /ref not ref/ . And I think you were trying to make wikilinks, not references. To make wikilinks, use square brackets like this: [[Egypt]], not <ref> Egypt </ref> . Art LaPella (talk) 05:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I hadn't realised that she meant to add Wikilinks. Whoops. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 06:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

How to use a first-letter-lowercase Username

MY CORRECT USERNAME IS ibicdlcod. Ibicdlcod (talk) 06:14, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I have added the template {{lowercase title}} to your user and user talk page. This does not change what your actual user name is, but is does change the display of it at those two pages. Now go to your preferences, scroll down the the signature area on the first page that comes up, place the following code into the field next to Signature:

[[User:Ibicdlcod|ibicdlcod]] ([[User talk:Ibicdlcod|talk]])

Now tick the box below that that says "Treat the above as wiki markup." Now, when you sign your name it will also display in lowercase. You cannot change your account name to actually begin with a lowercase letter because of a software restriction (the same is true of article titles). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Go to your preferences and put the following in the custom signature box: [[User:Ibicdlcod|ibicdlcod]] ([[User talk:Ibicdlcod|talk]]) . Check the "treat above as wiki markup" box. This will make your signature display as this: ibicdlcod (talk). Add {{lowercase title}} to your user page and/or your talk page to lowercase your username in those titles. The name is capitalized as a limitation of the software. - Purplewowies (talk) 06:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Wanna to write URDU font

Hiiiiiii i am willing to share my infoemations in urdu. Is it possible?? and if yes then how ?

Regards Mohammad HaroonMohammad Haroon (talk) 07:40, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

You can write on the Urdu Wikipedia. - Purplewowies (talk) 07:59, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

archived before answer

I sent a message on a bot talk. A bot archived it before any answer. Then, I sent a message on the relative user talk page. As before, a bot archived it before there was any answer. What to do in order to receive an answer?--Nickanc (talk) 10:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

You could leave an extra (fake) timestamp, such as "10:10, 19 August 2012 (UTC)", which would then prevent the bot from archiving it until (in this case) 19 August + the amount of days set by the bot config. benzband (talk) 10:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Create a company's page

Hello,

Please guide me how to create a company's page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.167.96.58 (talk) 10:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Don't do it if you work for the company. Read our conflict of interest policy. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 11:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

You also have to have an account to create an article. However, you can always submit a draft to the Articles for Creation page. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 11:35, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Width of Infobox tennis biography template

I'd like to request an increase in the width of this template, something similar to the Golf equivalent (see Ellsworth Vines' page for both, and the difference in width between them) in order to hopefully prevent some of the actual field text on the left-hand side (e.g. 'career prize money', 'current ranking', 'australian open') from running over onto 2 lines. This happens on many players' pages, e.g. Roger Federer, Fred Stolle, John Isner and Jérôme Golmard, whereas the infoboxes presumably should look relatively clutter free/stay on one line ala David Nalbandian, Denis Istomin, Marat Safin and Alexander Popp. This would greatly improve the presentation of such pages and make the infoboxes more efficient and easier to read... would this be possible? I have posted this at WikiProject Tennis also. Thanks. Asmazif (talk) 12:35, 9 August 2012 (GMT)

SPA

I just welcomed User:LYITMARKETING. I would like to add an SPA template and add a a freindly fiendly friendly greeting. I can't seem to get the available templates to work. Any ideas? ```Buster Seven Talk 11:53, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done ...another editor has provided the answer. ```Buster Seven Talk 12:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Table sorting broken?

On the page Gymnastics_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics_–_Women's_rhythmic_individual_all-around, there is an almost empty table; only two columns are partly filled. I can still sort by the two partially filled columns. But why does the sorting by hoop not work? I have to click on the next (empty) column of clubs to sort by hoop:

Position	Gymnast	Ball		Hoop		Clubs		Ribbon		Total	Notes
		Score	Penalty	Score	Penalty	Score	Penalty	Score	Penalty
	Melitina Staniouta (BLR)			27.500
	Carolina Rodríguez (ESP)	26.625
	Liubou Charkashyna (BLR)			28.050
	Francesca Jones (GBR)	24.550
	Julieta Cantaluppi (ITA)			25.200
	Deng Senyue (CHN)	26.800
	Anna Alyabyeva (KAZ)			27.200
	Yasmine Rostom (EGY)	23.775
	Son Yeon-Jae (KOR)			28.075
	Caroline Weber (AUT)	25.950
	Jana Berezko-Marggrander (GER)			26.300
	Delphine Ledoux (FRA)	27.150
	Sylvia Miteva (BUL)			27.700
	Chrystalleni Trikomiti (CYP)	26.250
	Aliya Garayeva (AZE)			27.450
	Daria Dmitrieva (RUS)	28.800
	Yevgeniya Kanayeva (RUS)			28.100
	Julie Zetlin (USA)	24.450
	Alina Maksymenko (UKR)			27.300
	Janine Murray (AUS)	23.100
	Ulyana Trofimova (UZB)			24.650
	Ganna Rizatdinova (UKR)	26.800
	Neta Rivkin (ISR)			27.450
	Joanna Mitrosz (POL)	27.250

--134.102.219.116 (talk) 12:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's because both ball and hoop span two columns. The table will sort by the very top columns. Those headers would need to be removed or incorporated into the columns below them. It's a shame since it makes the table less clear but there isn't any way round it that I know of and I've asked the same question myself before. Valenciano (talk) 12:38, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Unless you think people will want to be sorting by penalty points, you could maybe change it so that there's only one column for each discipline, with a heading such as Ball (score / penalty) and entries in the form "26.625 / xxxx". Deor (talk) 13:23, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

CBS Morning Problem

• CBS This Morning (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• CBS Morning (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• CBS Morning Show (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• The Early Show (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

In currently, CBS morning newscasts is called CBS This Morning, but I notice a problem. When I linked to CBS Morning or CBS Morning Show, it redirect to The Early Show, the former morning programme on CBS. And no pages have information of history of CBS morning shows in 1970s.--jcnJohn Chen (Talk-Contib.) RA 14:25, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

If a redirect seems to be obviously better pointing somewhere else, you may edit its target yourself. For example when clicking on CBS Morning, you end up at The Early Show and right under where it says "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia", you should see "(Redirected from CBS Morning)". If you click the link in the "Redirected from..." line, it will take you directly to the redirect page which you may then edit and change the target. However you should first check the "What links here" page for any redirect you intend to change; if most of the incoming links mean The Early Show, then perhaps you should just add a hatnote to The Early Show. Something like {{subst:redirect2|CBS Morning|CBS Morning Show|the other CBS morning show|CBS This Morning}}, which produces "CBS Morning" and "CBS Morning Show" redirect here. For the other CBS morning show, see CBS This Morning." If you're not sure at all what to do, you're welcome to nominate the problematic redirects for discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, and more redirect savvy editors will take it from there. To summarize:

1. Check Special:WhatLinksHere/CBS Morning and Special:WhatLinksHere/CBS Morning Show. If you're certain CBS Morning and CBS Morning Show should point at CBS This Morning, go ahead and change them accordingly and fix any incoming links that should instead point at The Early Show.
2. If you see that there is a large majority of incoming links for those redirects that mean The Early Show, consider using the {{subst:redirect2}} template to alert readers who were looking for CBS This Morning.
3. If you aren't comfortable making the decision, list the redirects for discussion at RfD. See WP:RFD#How to list a redirect for discussion.

— BigNate37_(T) 18:23, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Proper Name Appearing in Lowercase

I created an article with the header as the person's first and last name. The first name is capitalized, but the last name is all lowercase. How do I fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmbrown000 (talk • contribs) 14:43, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

You can WP:MOVE the article. But, you have to be autoconfirmed (account with at least 10 edits and 4 days old) to move pages, so I have done it for you: Rick page is now located at Rick Page. benzband (talk) 14:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks so much!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmbrown000 (talk • contribs) 14:52, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Heroes Welcome UK

Hi, I just need a little clarification, some time ago Wikipedia suggested that I should try and link the Heroes Welcome Article to other relating and connecting wikipedia articles, and this is something I have been doing as and when an opportunity arises.(you can probably track these?) . Yesterday I added a section to the Mariah Mundi and the Midas Box article (it seemed the most appropriate way of adding the piece) headed inspiring communities. I believed this article to be very relevant bearing in mind the well reported association between the Mariah Mundi series of books and the Heroes Welcome story. I noticed this morning that this new section was removed by one of the originating writers who seem to go under the same name as the film production company. This action seems to go against the wikipedia principle, could you advice me? Many thanksFwe506 (talk) 14:45, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Have you asked User:Emotionpictures why they reverted your edits?--ukexpat (talk) 15:18, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Not sure how to do that, but as I suspect its the film company PR dept that have formulated the Mariah Mundi piece then they may not want an association to the Heroes Welcome article. many thanks anyway Fwe506 (talk) 16:11, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi after some thinking ... I think we are now sorted! Many thanks!Fwe506 (talk) 17:41, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Help on offer

Anyone got a particular task they would like done / help doing? benzband (talk) 14:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

What do you have in mind? If you'd like to help with fixing NFCC issues that would be very much appreciated. If you are interested, let me know and I can explain further what you can do. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 14:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Sure! I've never looked into that area before though ;) benzband (talk) 14:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

It's an area not many editors want to work in, because discussions about this can result in A LOT of heat :) To explain a bit more, the Wikimedia Foundation adopted a resolution that allows Wikimedia projects (including the English Wikipedia) to adopt a policy to use copyrighted material, such as images, under a claim of fair use. (No, you don't have to be a lawyer to work in that area :) ). This policy for the English Wikipedia is Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. There are LOTS of copyrighted images (generally called non-free images) which need to be reviewed for whether their use on Wikipedia is valid under fair use (actually under the non-free content criteria). We have WAAAY too few people working on this. Non-free files with suspicious fair use claims or other problems are discussed at non-free content review. There are some automatically generated reports that can detect some of the images and files with problems regarding the non-free content policy. I am one of only a handful of editors (I believe) working through these reports, identify the problems with a specific file / article and outline those problems for discussion at non-free content review. Then a consensus can be reached on whether a particular use of a file is appropriate or not. So if you are interested, just let me know. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:17, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I should also mention that this is a monotonous and practically never ending task and you won't get lots of barnstars or other shiny things for it. If you work there, there's always something to do. :) -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:29, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

If that's not something you want to do, you can also take a look at Category:Wikipedia backlog. There are many other backlogs that also need attention. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:49, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I often do "monotonous and practically never ending task(s)". The way i deal with it is doing a bit of one, then switch to another for a bit, and so on (see my userpage for a list of things to do :D ). So i should find non-free files that are in violation of WP:NFCC and discuss them at NFCR? Where can i find the bot report to start my search? benzband (talk) 19:05, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

There are two reports. The first one is located at Wikipedia:Database reports/Non-free files missing a rationale and is generated by a bot which updates the report daily. The other one (which I am using) is run on the toolserver and can be found here. The toolserver report is not being updated very often, and some of the top violations have already been resolved. The latest use I reported to NFCR was 2008 Toyota/Save Mart 350. Everything below should still be unreported/unresolved as of this post. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 22:45, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay thanks! benzband (talk) 22:52, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Error on page

I would like someone to fix a error, I cant figure how to do it. It is on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Afghanistan_blizzard Under the references, someone has put 900 chickens and it should be 900 people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.87.143.17 (talk) 15:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I fixed it. When you want to edit a reference, you have to look where the reference number appears in the article text. In this case, it's after the second sentence between ref tags, looking like <ref>Details of the reference</ref>. You have to figure out, where the reference is located in the Wiki code and edit that part. It cannot be edited by editing the ==References== section. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Hong Kong

Yesterday I updated the Hong Kong Tramways page on Wikipedia UK, but when I went to do the same on the Hong Kong site I find that I can't get access to edit, can someone tell me why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.39.54.191 (talk) 15:37, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

There is no Hong Kong Wikipedia, but there is a Chinese Wikipedia. If the article does not exist there, go ahead and create it!--ukexpat (talk) 15:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) If you are referring to the Hong Kong page here at the English Wikipedia, then the reason you cannot edit it is because it is protected by a mechanism called semi-protection. People editing under an IP cannot edit such pages, only people who are logged in and have an account that is autoconfirmed can edit such pages. Creating an account is free and provides some other benefits, but is not required as long as you don't want to edit semi-protected pages. Registering an account also provides some other benefits, which are outlined at Wikipedia:Why create an account?. If you don't want to register an account, you can propose the update at Talk:Hong Kong. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:59, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, I've gone on to the Chinese Wikipedia Hong Kong Tramways page with my account open and I still can't edit the reference section, why not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lurdenlaw (talk • contribs) 18:21, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

You will have to ask that at the Chinese Wikipedia Help Desk.--ukexpat (talk) 18:39, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

But if the Chinese WP uses the same mechanism for references as the English, the references are actually defined where they are used in the article, not in the References section. See WP:Referencing for beginners. --ColinFine (talk) 18:57, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Removing "unreferenced stub" tag?

My question, really, is when can I remove the "unreferenced stubs" template?

I've been working on the Schrodinger-Newton equations entry, and I would like to remove the "unreferenced stubs" template since I've added quite a bit (although still more work is needed!)...but I don't know if I've done enough to warrant removing the template.

--Pqnelson (talk) 15:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Nice work! I have removed the stub and unreferenced templates.--ukexpat (talk) 15:52, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

And upgraded it to start class in the Project template on the talk page.--ukexpat (talk) 15:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Deleted page still appears

My page was deleted, will there be a way for the page that says "this page has been deleted" to also be deleted soot does not appear in google searches? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaraSJB (talk • contribs) 15:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

That should correct itself when Google's spiders catch up and realise that the page has been deleted. – ukexpat (talk) 15:59, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, any idea how long that can take? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SaraSJB (talk • contribs) 16:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

It's usually a few days. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:07, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

hepatitis c

is hepitits caureable — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.190.21.54 (talk) 17:06, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.. But, Wikipedia cannot give medical advice. The article on Hepatitis might answer your question, though. RudolfRed (talk) 17:23, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

how do I create a user box?

I have tried to but I still can't understand how, even by reading the tutorials. sophie (talk) 17:40, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

It depends on what exactly you wish to do. Do you want to make a custom userbox to put on your own page only? That can be done by placing a modified form of {{Userbox}} right on your userpage. If that's the case, perhaps you can describe what you're going for and we can suggest how to do it using the markup described at Template:Userbox. BigNate37_(T) 18:44, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

There are plenty of userboxes available. Also, it depends where you want them positioned.

--^CH^RI^S4315 22:16, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

--^CH^RI^S4315 22:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Just a quick headsup

http://www.dailypaul.com/248082/can-someone-fix-the-wiki-on-2012-convention-ron-paul-missing-wa-la-and-nv

Thanks! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.139.250.204 (talk) 18:54, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry. But does this have anything in relation with editing or using Wikipedia? This is a place for asking questions. Just in case you didn't know. Cheers :) --^CH^RI^S4315 22:12, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

They are attempting to point out an error in our 2012 Republican National Convention article. I looked at the source listed at the given URL, but the American system is crazy and confusing for me and I had no clue what that source meant, so I left this one for someone else to look at. BigNate37_(T) 22:28, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Correct article title for Katerina Bailey

It looks like the article title for Katerina Bailey should be changed to Katherine Bailey. Scarpy (talk) 20:29, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Of the six references listed on the article, one is in print form, one is a dead link, one makes no mention of her at all, and three call her Kate Bailey. I have removed the bad reference, but I'm thinking we should move the article to Kate Bailey, leave the Katerina redirect, and add a redirect at Katherine. BigNate37_(T) 20:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. -- Scarpy (talk) 21:01, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Move done [15][16]. Redirects left [17][18] at Katerina Bailey. Katherine Bailey retargeted [19]. See also left on Katherine Bailey redirect's old target DAB page [20]. Hatnote placed on Kate Bailey [21] regarding Katherine Bailey redirect. BigNate37_(T) 21:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC) P.S. Don't substitute {{redirect|REDIR|OTHER}}, it's awful [22].

Resolved

What does the olympic symbol next to a listed athlete mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_medalists_in_athletics_(men)

I have checks both the contents in the page under footnotes and the talk page but see no explantation why some athletes, like Allan Wells, have an Olympic symbol rather than their national flag next to their name. Please explain it and clearly mark what it denotes in the page link above and relevant pages elsewhere.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.28.107.113 (talk) 21:33, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi. It represents an Olympic champion. One of the most recent Olympic champions is Michael Phelps (for example). Thank you for asking here at the Help Desk, but for future reference, the talk page of the article you are wondering about would be a great place to ask as well. :) Cheers! --^CH^RI^S4315 22:08, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I have removed the "resolved" tag. 86.28.107.113 asked for the explanation to be given on the page. This is a reasonable request, and it has not been done. I would do it myself, but I can't figure out how to copy the Olympic symbol, and I don't know what an "Olympic champion" is. Maproom (talk) 22:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

This has to do with the special status of the British team at the 1980 Moscow Olympics—see Great Britain at the 1980 Summer Olympics. Deor (talk) 22:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, clicking through Allan Wells' GBR link takes one to Great Britain at the 1980 Summer Olympics. My distaste for easter eggs aside, I don't immediately see a better way to present this information. BigNate37_(T) 22:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguation for Sauk language

There are two Sauk languages -- one is on the page Sauk people, the other is Ma Manda language. However, a search on "Sauk language" redirects to Ma Manda language only. Both Sauk languages might also be called "Sauk", and belong on the disambiguation page. Would someone with more experience with disambiguation please take a look at this? Djembayz (talk) 23:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Ranks in Tables

A lot of formatted tables have a "Rank" column. e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multiple_Olympic_gold_medalists. If one adds a new name to the list, e.g. previously omitted through oversight, all of the ranks below the new entry have to be manually incremented by 1...

Or do they? Is there a way to automatically increment these ranks, or to set up the table in the first place so these ranks are automatically generated when the table is edited?Ordinary Person (talk) 23:28, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

New user needs help

Hello. I am new to the user side of Wikipedia, and looking to get involved. I have a huge personal library, and tons of documents as well.

I am active, love to read, love the power of information, and have a well established network in business and politics.

My favorite subjects are economics and foreign policy. I am already established in the Economics WikiProject. (Their page hasn't been updated in a long time!) Is there a WikiProject for international affairs / foreign policy?

Also, where can I find a template/banner that is useful for students saying that they are busy? thanks!--Colonel House (talk) 23:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)