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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Today's FA

• Caption — Not a factual error, but Wreckage from the Battle of Villers-Bocage seems unduly vague. Suggest change to "Wreckage of a British Cromwell tank at the Battle of Villers-Bocage." – Sca (talk) 00:34, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Will expanding the caption increase the portion of the main page taken up by the TFA?--Wehwalt (talk) 00:41, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@Wehwalt, I suggest that this is a useful addition. I've just read the item and had the exact same uncertainty; is it the tank that we are talking about? If there's an imbalance of the main page as a result, that is easily fixed by adding or deleting something at OTD. In fact, I've just done so. It happens routinely. Balance concerns should never stop us from removing ambiguity. Schwede66 00:47, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Looks like it'll fit. Photo file says yes it's a Cromwell. I suppose "the Battle of" could be dropped from the caption for space, since the text begins with "The Battle of Villers-Bocage." – Sca (talk) 00:47, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Errors with "In the news"

• Starliner – The Boeing Starliner spacecraft conducts its first crewed flight.... – Not a factual error, but "conducts" seems too anthropomorphic. Suggest change to "completes." – Sca (talk) 01:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

• The mission isn't complete, though. Hence, that does not seem the right verb to use. Schwede66 03:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

• French Open blurb
  • women's singles and men's singles should be lowercase
  • suggest adding "titles" after "men's singles"

Thanks. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 05:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

I've dealt with that. In prose, I would also drop caps for "Men's" and "Women's"; what do others think. Schwede66 06:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

among the 10 most challenged books in the United States in 2023 there should be some hyperlink (or something) explaining what a challenged book is. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 01:28, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

What should that link point to, Zanahary? I'm asking because I can't see a sensible target. And whether it should be linked is a separate question altogether. Schwede66 04:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Maybe a section of Book censorship in the United States? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 04:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Any thoughts? (Gobonobo—Cunard—Rjjiii—Theleekycauldron) Schwede66 04:10, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Book censorship in the United States covers the term and has been in the "See also" section of the DYK article. I've added a piped link to Book censorship in the United States#Definition and terminology into the article's body text.[1] "Challenging a book" seems pretty common in the US, but if there are places where it's uncommon perhaps this could help? That section of that article is a solid link target. Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 04:21, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@Schwede66, Gobonobo, and Zanahary: I have also glossed "challenge" in a sentence after the term is introduced in the DYK article.[2] It's a common enough term that most sources do not explain it, so I added a reference. Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 04:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Linking would be helpful because otherwise readers unfamiliar with "challenged books" in the US may think it means a book challenge, or a challenging book (to read), or a challenged (second bullet point) book. Perhaps as a target, American Library Association#Intellectual freedom, because 10 most challenged books in the United States in 2023 refers specifically to the ALA's Top 10 Most Challenged Books of 2023 list, and that's the section of the ALA article that discusses the ALA's challenged books lists. Or: among the American Library Association's 10 most challenged books in the United States in 2023. But ultimately I think I like Zanahary's suggestion best (among the 10 most challenged books in the United States in 2023), since the book censorship article discusses book challenges in more depth than the ALA article. Levivich (talk) 04:21, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done I for one had never heard the term "challenged book" before. I guess it'll be helpful for others, too. Schwede66 06:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

... that the Byzantine's weak defenses around the Lycus valley played a pivotal role in the fall of Constantinople? - It looks like the "Byzantine's" part of this hook was added after DYK nomination as that wording isn't on the article's talk page. For grammatical reasons, I'd suggest either 1) removing "Byzantine's" (thus matching the nom hook), 2) rewording to "the weak Byzantine defenses ...", or 3) rewording to "the Byzantine Empire's weak defenses...". CAVincent (talk) 04:55, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

did the second one, thanks :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 05:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Next DYK

... that Arthur Fulton, his father and his son all won the Sovereign's Prize for rifle shooting? There should be a comma before 'and'. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:45, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

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Monday's FL

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Errors in the summary of the featured picture

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General discussion

ITN picture

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I feel given the impact and coverage of the story it would be more appropriate to have a picture of Jo Cox rather than Sidney Crosby, which has been up a few days and is for a story about to fall off the main page. yorkshiresky (talk) 14:09, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

The main page requires free photos and none have been found. It's discussed at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#.5BPosted.5D 2016 Birstall shooting. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:20, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

[edit conflict] I don't see any images of her, whether in her article or at Commons (File:Jo Cox-Ladru 1952.jpg is someone else), that are eligible; the only pictures in her article are an image of a library and a non-free portrait, which due to its copyright status is not permitted to appear on the Main Page. If we had a usable picture of her, I'd readily move it to the Main Page. Nyttend (talk) 14:21, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Maybe there's some free images of Russians beating the crap out of England fans? Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 12:57, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

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Double Uncertainty

Double Uncertainty (or Great Uncertainty) is a term from the fields of everyday philosophy and probability (sometimes game theory and more). When there's a chance something will happen, and that chance is known - it is a situation of uncertainty. When even the chance that a thing will happen is unknown - the situation is a situation of double uncertainty. Mostly, everyday life is composed of double uncertainties; the distinction might be important sometimes because it may be important to acknowledge that there is no real data to base a decision upon, instead of pretentiously act based on imagined probability. Thus, the need for the term arises.

The term was coined by Gilad Deutch.