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:Hello, [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]],
:Hello, [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]],
:If you look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Category%3A2020+disasters+in+the+United+Kingdom the log] of [[:Category:2020 disasters in the United Kingdom]], you'll see it was deleted by Bbb23 because it was created by a blocked or banned editor, in this case, [[User:Netgg68|Netgg68]]. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 19:51, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:If you look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Category%3A2020+disasters+in+the+United+Kingdom the log] of [[:Category:2020 disasters in the United Kingdom]], you'll see it was deleted by Bbb23 because it was created by a blocked or banned editor, in this case, [[User:Netgg68|Netgg68]]. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 19:51, 23 March 2020 (UTC)<br>
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== response to drt1245's report of disruptive editing by user domskitect ==
<br>Dear Liz, you also had deleted my earlier contribution to the page panic buying earlier today, no doubt for your own good reasons. drt1245 subsequently reported me for disruptive editing. I have posted my responses to that here: <br>
[[User_talk:Domskitect#Response_to_Notice_of_edit_warring_and_disruptive_editing|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Domskitect#Response_to_Notice_of_edit_warring_and_disruptive_editing]]<br>

Thank you https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz&action=edit

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Lmatt

Hello Liz,

I noticed that you informed Lmatt that a category they had created was up for speedy deletion. I have blocked this editor several times and since being unblocked, they have gone on a spree of Hotcat editing. There is a discussion on my talk page about this matter. I am rarely involved in category discussions and have no experience with Hotcat. Would you be willing to look into these recent edits and express your opinion? Thank you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 20:12, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cullen, I'll visit your talk page when I get back to my computer tonight. It's not unusual for relatively new editors to go overboard creating categories. It's a problem when it interferes with the existing category structure which, after 18 years, is pretty set at this point. Liz Read! Talk! 02:45, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
They registered in 2005 and have edited heavily although sporadically since 2011, logging close to 10,000 edits. I had warned them to steer clear of controversial editing at the time of their last block. Since their block expired about a week ago, they have made roughly 750 edits. Most were to controversial categories, but others were to highly controversial topics such as transgender and TERF issues, assault rifles, serial rape, prostitution and pornography. I am very concerned about this editor but want other administrators to take a close look, because the editor has criticized me forcefully several times, accusing me of bias. I do not consider myself involved because all of my interactions with this editor have been as an administrator. But I want to be cautious. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:27, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstart for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
For your help cleaning up the fallout from the Portal:Contents move. Wug·a·po·des​ 06:43, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You'd be the third half of the half barnstar I gave El C and JJMC89. Since 3 halves is improper I hope you don't mind a teamwork barnstar. Wug·a·po·des​ 06:43, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Not at all! Liz Read! Talk! 16:18, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Manika Kaur

Hi, have moved this article back to mainspace because it passes WP:GNG and was approved by an admin (David Gerard) who unsalted the title, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 19:51, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, Atlantic306. I was just fixing the broken redirects. Liz Read! Talk! 20:44, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion of East Bengal the Real Power

Hi, The article East Bengal the Real Power was an informative article about the very first fan group in Indian football and only showed how the fan culture grew in India through the various activities of the fan group. The article was not at all promotional and I strongly disagree to the deletion. Kindly restore and suggest if anything should be changed in order for it to be more neutral and informative. Regards, --SabyaC (talk) 09:08, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It is very unusual that a fan group would receive enough mainstream media coverage to be seen as notable enough for their own article. This article had already been deleted twice and if I didn't delete it, another admin would have. Liz Read! Talk! 17:01, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This was an article about the very first fan group in Indian football. It was only informative and not at all promotional. There are articles about revolutionary fan groups like UltrAslan, West Block Blues. This article too was of similar kind and also with proper references and citations included. Please suggest how to create this article so that it is not taken down. --SabyaC (talk) 18:39, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Please

Liz, as time permits, would you look back to the publication history of the Jeff Vintar article, who is much more accomplished than the stub leads one to believer? It appears that at times the article has had much more content, and oddly, the additions and deletions in the edit history appear with strikethroughs, and so the material is not easily viewable. IMDB indicates further productivity, including as a producer. A deleted, referenced source (which cites an earlier version of Wikipedia!) indicates substantial further creative work, and collaborative associations. It would be nice, for the sake of the article, its subject, and the quality of the encyclopedia, if the reliable of this deleted information could be reclaimed (with sourcing). Cheers. 2601:246:C700:9B0:989C:8C2B:3054:F2E2 (talk) 05:30, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The reason the edits are stricken is because (a) they were promotional but primarily (b) they were copy-pasted from a copyrighted website. We can't restore or publish copyrighted information on Wikipedia. So it will stay gone. If you want to write about the subject of the article, do it in your own words, neutrally, and that will have a better chance of surviving the cuts. Elizium23 (talk) 05:44, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This edit

I'm guessing this one may also be similar to the ones already been deleted by the administrators due to similar IP addresses editing and the amount of bytes added to the page. Iggy (Swan) (What I've been doing to maintain Wikipedia) 18:52, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know, Iggy. It was the exact same offensive content, over and over again. I've rev-deleted it. Much appreciated. Liz Read! Talk! 20:42, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Speedy Deletion of Category:Reader's Digest compilation albums

Liz, nice to meet you. I'm fairly new to Wikipedia, at least the editing part, and am not entirely sure how this works. I got your message today about the deletion. I appreciate the email. If I understand correctly, a Category must be empty for 7 days or more. I created this Category less than half a week ago, four days at most, and there was an album listed in the category. One of several I had intended to submit over time. The album I included first in this Category was "Her Greatest Hits and Finest Performances" by Anne Murray. I went to her discography page to check this album after receiving your notice and the link to this album has been removed. I have not received any notification about the status of the album's article. This is not the first time an article of mine has been removed without me being notified. I complained about this one other time and was told by someone from Wikipedia that I was mistaken, that none of my submissions had been deleted. I don't think so. If that were the case, I would be able to find these articles. If I can't find them, where are they if not deleted or removed. I put several hours into creating this particular article as it was a three disc box set. If it's being removed, I would like, at the very least, for the person who removed it to provide me with an explanation. That's just common courtesy and the decent thing to do. Regarding the removed articles; Maybe I made a mistake and they should be removed. I get that. Maybe I can fix the articles and they can stay up. This would be my preference. If someone would explain to me why my articles are deleted, at the very least, I would learn what not to do in the future. I don't create any articles for profit. I'm retired with time on my hands. I actually enjoy creating them and feel like I'm making a contribution and giving back as I use Wikipedia quite a bit myself. I'm frustrated and disappointed that anyone's hard work, not just mine, would be summarily destroyed without a how-do-you-do. Thanks for reading this.HowlinMadMan (talk) 00:43, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, HowlinMadMan,
First, I regularly tag empty categories. After categories are tagged as empty, they sit in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for 7 days. If, after 7 days, the categories are still empty, they are deleted. If during that 7 days someone assigns an appropriate page to the category, the tag is removed and it is not deleted. This happens all of the time because categories are often created before someone has figured out which articles to put in them. I'm sorry if the message you received from Twinkle implied that this is a "speedy deletion" because, unless something has gone wrong, empty categories are never immediately deleted after being tagged. There is this 7 day waiting period. But the 7 days can only start after the category has been tagged so that is done first.
Second, unlike categories that have been deleted through a Categories for discussion decision, categories that are deleted for being empty can always be recreated should they be needed. So, even if you created an empty category that was deleted after 7 days, you can always recreate it when you have a use for it.
Finally, your bigger question is what happened to the articles you assigned to the category that were reassigned and removed. We don't have static lists of category contents, they are dynamic, and the only way to discover this is to check the articles that you believe were originally in the category and see which editor reassigned them. If they reassigned one article, it is likely they reassigned others. Once you know who did the reassignment, there needs to be a discussion about this. There can be valid reasons for reassigning pages if there is an existing category that is a better fit and typically other editors are not told about editing changes, that is why we use Watchlists so you can keep an eye on articles and pages that you have been working on, to see when changes have been made.
If it is a matter of articles that have been deleted, and you do not remember what the article or category titles were, as an admin, I can look at your deleted contributions and figure out what they were and, from there, we can go to the pages and find out why they were deleted. Some deletions, like for empty categories, can be undone very simply, for pages that have had a deletion discussion, it can take a deletion review to undelete a page. Let me know if I can help with this. Liz Read! Talk! 04:57, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but I think I'm done with it. It's too much work and raises my blood pressure too high to continue. I just went to my watchlist and read about all the cover art images that are up for deletion and it's discouraging. For each image, it means an article has already been removed. I thought I was doing something others would find useful. Because I went looking for these albums and couldn't find reliable sources to fill my needs, I thought I would put them there for the next person. I'm not spending that much time just so someone who thinks the article isn't "notable" enough can wipe out all my hard work with a click of a mouse button. I've submitted a lot of articles over the past few months and I felt each one deserved a page. I'm sure you hear that all the time and I'm not fooling myself into thinking I'm always right. I would expect to have to redo some articles but I can't because they're simple not there any more. Something you might want to propose to your fellow administrators is to critique an article and give the submitter a chance to correct it. That one thing would reduce the frustration levels immensely. To be fair, that has happened once or twice for one of my articles, but not for the majority. It would also make contributors feel like they're getting some small level of respect. I'm sure that's already been considered and discarded because it just makes too much sense to do that. "Notability" is a tricky thing. Nobody's going to the library and digging up book references or dusting off the microfiche unless they get paid to do that. For a lot of articles there will never be enough sources on the web. Especially older items. In my case, music. I think some Wikipedia administrators get hung up on the "notability" factor too much and I'm sure nearly 100% of them will tell me I don't know diddly squat. One already has and maybe they were right. The readers, such as myself, lose out because of this strict adherence policy. Again, I can play Devil's advocate and say policies are necessary. They can also put you in a strangle hold. Things I/we want to read about is not always on Wikipedia because there are not enough sources to get them there. I can read all I ever want to know about Taylor Swift, but I can't find out much about someone who might have only put out a couple of albums in the 70s and didn't quite make the top 10 or maybe was just a one hit wonder. Maybe it's just me, but I find that person much more interesting than the latest boy band or the next Britney Spears. If you're not careful, "notability" can turn into "popularity" real quick, or at least give that impression. Sorry for the ramble and it's not necessary to tell me I should write a blog. One of your fellow admins already did that. Thanks and have a good day. HowlinMadMan (talk) 18:58, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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editToken

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Your script User:Liz/spihelper.js is no longer functional because it attempts to get an editToken from mw.user.tokens. The script should instead get a csrfToken. editTokens were removed from mw.user.tokens on October 3, 2019 at Phabricator during this edit as they were redundant to csrfTokens.– BrandonXLF (talk) 00:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Wavelet Packet Filter Banks (November 28)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Onel5969 was:
This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
You really need to provide footnotes to show where each bit of info came from. Take a look at WP:CIT and WP:CITE.
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The Los Angeles Daily Journal

Hi Liz. I noticed you deleted The Los Angeles Daily Journal under G8 as "Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page". When I linked to that page here, I remember The Los Angeles Daily Journal being an article. Would you provide more information about the page's deletion? What was it a redirect to? Was it converted to a redirect recently? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 11:11, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here are related pages you deleted around that time:
  1. Talk:Los Angeles Daily Journal and San Francisco Daily Journal
  2. Los Angeles Daily Journal and San Francisco Daily Journal - California Legal News
  3. Talk:San Francisco Daily Journal - San Francisco Legal News
  4. San Francisco Daily Journal - San Francisco Legal News
I think The Los Angeles Daily Journal must have been a redirect to San Francisco Daily Journal – San Francisco Legal News, which was deleted as an expired prod. Also pinging deleting admin Muboshgu (talk · contribs). Would you restore these pages and redirect them to parent company Daily Journal Corporation instead? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 11:16, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Cunard, done. One talk page had no edits to restore. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:30, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Muboshgu (talk · contribs)! Cunard (talk) 11:31, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria for speedy deletion C1

Hi, I see my nomination of Category:Palacký University Rector elections was incorrect. The reason was that I checked the criteria in Template:Db-catempty (Template:Db-c1) rather than the main guidance.

What do you think of the following update to the template?

Replace "as a category that is empty, is not currently in a deletion discussion (or was emptied outside of that process), and is not a category redirect, a disambiguation category, a featured topics category, or a project category that by its nature becomes empty on occasion." with "as a category that is empty, is not currently under discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion (or other such discussions), and is not a disambiguation category, category redirect, featured topics category, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion." Reason: to bring current wording into line with Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Categories. The current wording suggests that being in a "Categories for Renaming" discussion would not make a category ineligible for C1 deletion. TSventon (talk) 00:07, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If a category is being discussed for deletion, merging or renaming, it is not deleted as an empty category. After the decision has been made, it can be tagged for deletion if it is still empty. This has just been common practice. Alternatively, you could go to the rename nominator and ask them to withdraw their speedy rename request.
Bottom line is that empty categories are an extremely low priority for deletion considerations. They can always be recreated if needed, unlike categories deleted through CFD discussions. They are not an urgent issue like copyright, vandalism or BLP violations. Wait until the speedy rename discussion is over or withdrawn and then tag it again if the category is still empty.
Often categories that are tagged as empty are not empty after a few days and we remove the tag. Happens all the time. If you look at my CSD log, you'll see plenty of blue links for categories that had been CSD C1 tagged that later turned out not to be empty any more so they were untagged & not deleted. Liz Read! Talk! 01:07, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I want your opinion on the wording of the Template:Db-catempty, not the deletion policy, but perhaps I did not make that clear in my post.
The deletion policy excludes categories "currently under discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion (or other such discussions)", whereas the wording in Template:Db-catempty is "currently in a deletion discussion (or was emptied outside of that process)".
I think that the difference in wording is unhelpful (and that it confused me in this case) so I have produced a request for an update to the wording of the template (my final paragraph above). The template is protected, so I can't boldly update it. Please could you have a look at my final paragraph above and let me know if you disagree with any of my new wording. TSventon (talk) 11:08, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for reinstating the speedy deletion nomination. I have just submitted a request to change the wording of the Template:Db-catempty to bring it into line with the guidance. TSventon (talk) 12:46, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikia

I'm really lazy, and I don't want to try to figure out what the contents of that page were. Could you please restore it and just move its contents to Category:Fandom (website)? –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 06:02, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft : Zendyll Production

Hi Liz, I noticed that you deleted my draft article for Zendyll Production due to G11 Unambiguous advertising or promotion. While I agree that this article wasn't ready for the mainspace, I intended to improve and fix the problems. I would really appreciate if you could reinstate the article to draft space as I've spent over 30 hours researching on the company. Thank you. :)--Chlchqy (talk) 09:12, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

73.101.113.182

Could you please handle user:73.101.113.182 ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 02:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you help Tashi?

Hi Liz. I saw you're an ArbCom clerk. User:Tashi is trying to appeal his ArbCom block but he has problems contacting ArbCom as his emails are not getting through. Here is the link to what he wrote. Would you be able to guide him through the appeal process? Thanks Liz :) starship.paint (talk) 08:52, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Starship.paint,
<arbcom-en@wikimedia.org> is the correct email address to use so I don't know why their emails are not getting through. According to a message you left on their user talk page, they previously emailed the committee successfully. Tashi is not restricted from email use so they can also follow instructions at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee#Contacting the Committee and email the committee directly from their user page, User:Arbitration Committee.
Emailing the committee directly is the way to reach the committee so my only thought is that Tashi could use an alternative email address if their primary one doesn't seem to be working. I will cross-post this to their Polish user page. Liz Read! Talk! 15:55, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Liz, your help is greatly appreciated. Thank you! :) starship.paint (talk) 01:06, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted article

Hi. East Bengal the Real Power this article was deleted last month. Is it possible to get a copy of the article, so that I can modify it and make it suitable to re-publish?  S A H A  09:59, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers

Merry Christmas, Liz!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. And for all the help you've thrown my way over the years. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 19:05, 19 December 2019 (UTC) [reply]

Merry Merry!

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Happy editing,
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Happy Holidays

Thank you for continuing to make Wikipedia the greatest project in the world. I hope you have an excellent holiday season. Lightburst (talk) 23:36, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas Liz

Hi Liz, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas
and a very happy and prosperous New Year,
Thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia this past year,
   –Davey2010talk 00:48, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Backatcha

Have a WikiChristmas and a PediaNewYear

Consider this a very slow motion snowball fight. And thanks for support comments. Be well. Keep well. Have a lovely Christmas. SilkTork (talk) 12:51, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays!
May your winter holidays be filled with joy, laughter and good health. Wishing you all the best in 2020 and beyond.

--Cameron11598 (Talk) 21:19, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck

豊かな十年へようこそ/WELCOME TO THE D20s

Miraclepine wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade of change and fortune.
このミラPはLizたちのメリークリスマスも新年も変革と幸運の豊かな十年をおめでとうございます！
フレフレ、みんなの未来！/GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FUTURE!
ミラP 02:28, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Joyous Season

I wish that you may have a very Happy Holiday! Whether you celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Hogmanay, Festivus or your hemisphere's Solstice, this is a special time of year for almost everyone! May the New Year provide you joy and fulfillment! Thanks for everything you do here. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 10:37, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Coffee/Holidays}} to your fellow editors' talk pages.

offensive lang in edit summary

Hi. Where would I report offensive language in an edit summary. See this edit. Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 15:06, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, onel5969,
Any admin can take care of this kind of thing. It's better to contact an admin directly rather than posting this to a noticeboard, as long as the admin is currently active. Thanks for alerting me. Liz Read! Talk! 15:14, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that's what I thought, just wanted to make sure. Onel5969 TT me 15:16, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Self-promotion

Hi. Since you responded so quickly last time, thought I might try you again. Please take a look at User:Elisabete A Silva. Haven't really dealt much with self-promotion, and don't know where the line is between simply telling others about yourself, and self-promotion is. What do you feel about this user page? Onel5969 TT me 15:52, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, onel5969,
Yes, that is bad! But this situation usually happens because new editors misunderstand the purpose of a user page and think it is for their personal biography. It is inappropriate but understandable given how other websites work. Since this editor is currently active, I posted a notice on her user talk page and will delete the page in a bit. It is not urgent and she might like to remove the material herself. Again, thanks for letting me know. Liz Read! Talk! 16:01, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. I also left her message on her talk page, as she was making some problematic edits. Hopefully, she'll reach out if she has any questions. Onel5969 TT me 16:03, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like Fastily has now deleted this page. Liz Read! Talk! 21:06, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I saw that. Funny thing is, that with her citation count, she might pass notability criteria for her own article. Onel5969 TT me 21:19, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Maharshi Santsewi Paramhans CSD tag removal

Hello Liz, this is Utopes, the editor who placed a speedy deletion tag on Maharshi Santsewi Paramhans. Currently, this is a redirect that does not have a valid target, as the location that this redirect points is an article that does not exist. The article that used to be in this position had been draftified to allow time for the article to incubate. My question to you is: why was the CSD tag removed? I labeled the redirect as WP:G8, as a page dependent on a nonexistent page or deleted page. You stated in the edit summary that the criteria was not valid. Could you elaborate? Thanks, Utopes (talk) 20:38, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Utopes,
When I removed the tag 6 1/2 hours ago, the target article existed. Bbb23 deleted Maharshi Santsevi Paramhans less than 2 hours ago. So, now that Maharshi Santsewi Paramhans is a broken redirect, I will delete it. Liz Read! Talk! 21:04, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Sorry for the misunderstanding. when I tagged the article, the target of the redirect had been moved to draft space, and the redirect was broken. However, before it could be deleted, it appears the author of the original article copied and pasted the contents into mainspace, which is where it existed when you came across the redirect. So, to summarize, it appears that we both were right. When I tagged the article, the redirect was broken. However, it remained undeleted when the target was re-created by the author, and you justly removed the tag, as there WAS in fact a target. However, that target was then deleted when I looked at my CSD log and wondered why 2 out of the 3 redirects I tagged for the same reason were deleted (which struck me as odd, as 2 of the redirects were deleted in time, but the one in question wasn't). Anyway, thanks for reading my re-hash of events. Hopefully everything worked out. Cheers, Utopes (talk) 21:11, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate you for bringing it to my attention, Utopes. The page needed to be deleted now. I patrol Anomie3 bot's report of broken redirects, usually daily, so the page would have been deleted some time today by a bot or admin. The bot does a good job detecting broken redirects but it only updates its report about every 7 or 8 hours. Editors like you often respond faster. Have a good weekend! Liz Read! Talk! 21:20, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Campbell (darts player)

Hi, I'm sorry about the AFD nomination earlier, i didn't think it had any references etc, and I couldn't find a "reliable" subject to nominate it for deletion. (I've never used that feature before). I didn't realise I had requested it as an attack page. As I say I didn't know which subjects to put it under. Really sorry about that. L1amw90 (talk) 23:46, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No apology necessary, L1amw90. If you edit, you make occasional mistakes. I know I do! Have a great new year! Liz Read! Talk! 03:19, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re: social media traffic reports for patrollers

Hello, Liz. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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Hope we can find a time to talk! Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 22:28, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Responded to. Thanks for alerting me, Jmorgan (WMF)). Liz Read! Talk! 03:17, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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TL;DR: let me know if you have time in the next couple weeks for a meeting, and/or just want to coordinate via email or talkpage. Happy new year! Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 22:57, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Jmorgan (WMF), I haven't checked my email in a while due to the holidays and other stuff. I'll get back to you today. My apologies. Liz Read! Talk! 23:02, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good, Liz, and no rush! Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 00:26, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Cheers, Liz! J-Mo 21:21, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy-deleted category

Hi. I'm RoadTyper, and I recently noticed that you have nominated the category Category:Articles with Mi'kmaq-language external links for speedy deletion, because it is empty. However, I disagree with this nomination, because there are plenty of articles, including the one about the language itself, that could be part of this category. I edited that article and added the category, but for some reason, it didn't show up at the bottom.

Is this because the category is currently tagged for speedy deletion, or what? I have had (and still have) my categories of my own nominated for deletion, but it wasn't speedy deletion, and the pages remained in the category until you had manually removed them. Would you mind filling me in on the major differences between regular deletion and speedy deletion? I'm kind of new here, so I could really use a lot of help. HighwayTyper (talk) 13:26, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, HighwayTyper,
Empty categories are tagged for deletion unless they fall under a limited number of exceptions (see Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#C1. Unpopulated categories for details). They sit in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for 7 days. If, after 7 days, the category is still empty, it is deleted. If it no longer is empty, the tag is removed. So, it is not "speedy" like most of the other kinds of speedy deletion which can face immediate deletion.
If the category is deleted because it is empty, it can be recreated at any time if there are pages that would be appropriate for it. This is not the case if a category has been nominated for deletion via Categories for discussion. If a category is deleted via CfD, it is normally not allowed to be recreated.
In the case of Category:Articles with Mi'kmaq-language external links, it is no longer empty so the CSD C1 tag has been removed. I hope this explains the situation. Liz Read! Talk! 05:09, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Recent user talk page moves

Hi Liz, sorry for the mess and thanks for the deletions. I was planning to clean it up myself, but was trying to figure out how to restore my talk page archives first (the first 40 are now red links). I will work on that. Apologies and thanks again, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:23, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No apology necessary, Ruhrfisch. Sorry for my message, I've been having a bad day and just got a bit irritated. If I can help you recover your archived talk pages, let me know. Liz Read! Talk! 04:59, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No worries and I am sorry for the mess. I figured out where the archives are and am moving them back to the links from the archivebox. WIll stop soon and will finish the moves tomorrow. I've not done much on WP for well over a year and am sorry I messed up. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 05:32, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Magne Furuholmen albums (category)

Hi, I added the whole of Magne Furuholmen discography to Wiki so I was wondering if it is possible to add the category back. In the coming weeks it is my intention to improve the existing newly created articles. Thanks in advance Cat italia (talk) 15:58, 4 January 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Hello, Cat italia,
If a category has been deleted simply because it was empty, it can be recreated when it IS needed. If it was deleted due to a Categories for discussion discussion, it should not be recreated without a good justification. So, if it is the former, go ahead and recreate the category. I hope I've cleared this up. Let me know if you have more questions. Liz Read! Talk! 17:34, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your help. The category is no longer empty since more articles can be added. Thank you for your help! Cat italia (talk) 19:06, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:06, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

G13

Hey Liz, saw you removed the CSD from User:Yonanale/sandbox. Just a note that the latest edit was from a bot, and bot edits do not reset the G13 clock, so the page is eligible. Best, (and thanks as always for all your good work), UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:45, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, UnitedStatesian
I wasn't aware that there were exceptions to the G13 rule and I don't see this information on the CSD G13 guidelines. All I could see was a warning notice that these two pages were not eligible for a G13 deletion.
If there is an exception to the G13 guidelines, the bots should be programmed to ignore bot edits and not to post notices that the pages are ineligible, I would think. Thanks for alerting me, I'll look into this. Liz Read! Talk! 17:31, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The relevant text from the CSD G13 guidelines is "have not been edited by a human in six months." Thanks for looking into it. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:17, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
For some reason, that qualification didn't stand out to me, I was looking at the list. I appreciate you pointing it out, UnitedStatesian, and I'll delete those two pages now. Liz Read! Talk! 23:02, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion of Mahatma Gandhi Central University protest

I have written an article Mahatma Gandhi Central University protest which was accepted for article for creation on 27 December 2019 but some users copied text from references and links that's why this page was deleted due to copy right issue. I request you to undo the deletion and restoration the page. I'll remove all the copied text from the article and will write in my own words. It took almost 3 months to collect all the information and references to write this article. As Wikipedia plays a vital role in letting world know about the important things across the globe. Hope you'd love to help us in inclusion of one of the India's largest public universities protest to the Wikipedia so that whole world may know about it. Therefore, you are requested to think once more to undo the deletion and restoration the page. I'll try my level best to improve this article day by day and will be writing in my own words. Thanking you.--Rohitmishra111 (talk) 13:39, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Rohitmishra111
I recommend that you ask the administrator who deleted the article, 331dot, to consider undeleting the article. That's typically how things work here. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 13:44, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

@Liz: The article Davido was under severe attack by more then one vandal today, can you put some protection on this article. And also can you block User:Ibwizzy, this person did much of the vandalism to this article.Catfurball (talk) 20:18, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Catfurball: Protection – OK. IMHO blocking would be prematurely severe; that user's first edit to the article was highly destructive, but in their next edits they did then start to put right part of the damage they had done. Clearly they did not realise how easy it would be to simply WP:UNDO. Talking of which, please would you also take a look at Help:Reverting, as it would be better if you would revert pages to the last good version, rather than undoing each vandal edit one at a time. – (WP:TPS) Fayenatic London 22:12, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fayenatic is correct (as usual), Catfurball. Ibwizzy is a brand new account and Fayaenatic posted a warning which is what we do for beginners who make questionable edits. Liz Read! Talk! 23:42, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2020(s) cats

Hi. I appreciate all the good work that you and User:UnitedStatesian do but can you just go a bit easy on deleting 2020(s) categories for a bit? We are bound to need things like Category:2020s in Philippine cinema that are part of a well-established series, and in fact it was filled with a subcat just three hours after you deleted it. We're seeing a lot of 2020(s) categories over at Special:WantedCategories at the moment because of the new year and new decade (I know myself how easy it is to miss that a new 2020 category needs a decade cat), and it's frustrating to see "obvious" categories like that getting deleted only for us to recreate them very soon after. Cheers. Le Deluge (talk) 11:23, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Le Deluge,
This happens every year. The problem is is that some editors start creating these categories very early, like in October of the previous year, when it is unlikely that they will be filled for months.
It's difficult to predict which of these categories will be filled imminently and which could be empty for months. But I get your point and will try to be more judicious in my deletion. It would also be good to notify UnitedStatesian about this as they do most of the empty category tagging these days. Liz Read! Talk! 17:08, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Consider me notified (via your ping, thanks); my only comment is that categories appearing on Special:WantedCategories are not an issue, since by definition they cannot appear on that list unless at least one page is in the category. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:47, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

96.233.204.98

May I please request immediate intervention with user:96.233.204.98. She clearly won't stop vandalizing until blocked. CLCStudent (talk) 16:21, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like Widr has already blocked this editor. Thanks for the notice. Liz Read! Talk! 17:03, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PDBe-KB

Hi Liz - I've recently come across this (former) article, which you nominated for speedy deletion last year. The grounds for deletion were: A7 - not important enough, and G11 - blatant advertising. I find these hard to understand as (a) this article is wikilinked in hundreds of biochemistry articles, and (b) it describes a community-driven reference resource (see Welcome to PDBe-KB). Can it be restored, or at least the original text made available somewhere for editing with a view to restoration? Colonies Chris (talk) 10:24, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Colonies Chris,
I've been out of commission for the past week due to illness and am just now reading on my phone which is very clumsy. As soon as I'm back on my laptop, I'll check out the deleted page later today. I'll see if it is possible to give you the deleted content on one of your user pages. Liz Read! Talk! 23:00, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Colonies Chris,
I have restored the article to keep the edit history and moved it to User:Colonies Chris/Sandbox so you can work on it. I'm glad you brought the request to me and I had the chance to revisit this decision because I think it was questionable on my part. In general, I think A7 and G11 are frequently judgment calls and I have removed my share of CSD tags when I think the article didn't meet the criteria.
I hope you can improve upon the article, maybe with the help of a WikiProject like WikiProject Molecular Biology. I wouldn't recommend just moving the page back into article main space because it could very well be tagged again. Thanks again for your inquiry. Liz Read! Talk! 02:20, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Liz - It obviously needs work. I'll try to knock it into an acceptable form. Colonies Chris (talk) 09:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The page appears to have been copy and pasted back into mainspace, rather than moved back from the sandbox, which is unfortunate as that means history is lost (may also have copyright implications). --kingboyk (talk) 08:30, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: welcome back

Thank you :-) I'd gotten into some stressful situations on-wiki, and I couldn't think of a good way to avoid conflict...I figured the best way was just to log out and return after a few months. Nyttend (talk) 04:35, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I know exactly how you feel, Nyttend. When I first started editing regularly in 2013, I wandered into a dispute that I had no business weighing in on that quickly got me labeled as troublesome when I came to an editor's defense (which was a noble but, in hindsight, foolish decision). That editor got ended up getting blocked and I couldn't shake the association with them. So, I ended up taking a 6 month break and when I returned, everyone involved had either left, had also been blocked or had moved on to other subjects.
My recent break had to do with my health but I also found after returning that I had renewed energy for the project. So, I'm all for taking time off and then deciding whether or not you want to recommit. It's much better to take a break than get frustrated and act out. So, welcome back and I hope your stress levels will be much lower this time around. Remember that this is all voluntary and you can choose where you want to spend your time. If there is a certain area of admin work that you found tiresome or stressful, then work on articles or templates or do something more enjoyable. That's my 2 cents, for what it's worth. Liz Read! Talk! 04:55, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Recent deletion

Hi Liz. You recently G7-deleted F1 Manager (2010 Video Game) and then G8-deleted Talk:F1 Manager (2000 Video Game). I'm wondering if you meant to G8-delete Talk:F1 Manager (2010 Video Game), i.e. the talk page of the article you G7-deleted, instead. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 03:07, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. Talk:F1 Manager (2010 Video Game) has now been deleted by someone else (and the incorrectly capitalised Talk:F1 Manager (2000 Video Game) doesn't need to be reinstated). Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 07:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, DH85868993,
If you say this is straightened out, I'll take your word for it. Let me know if there are any problems. Liz Read! Talk! 15:26, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Books & Bytes – Issue 37

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2020).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Wikipedia:Partial blocks.
  • The request for comment seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure closed with wide-spread support for an alternative desysoping procedure based on community input. No proposed process received consensus.

Technical news

  • Twinkle now supports partial blocking. There is a small checkbox that toggles the "partial" status for both blocks and templating. There is currently one template: {{uw-pblock}}.
  • When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [1]

Arbitration

  • Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators that checkuser and oversight blocks must not be reversed or modified without prior consultation with the checkuser or oversighter who placed the block, the respective functionary team, or the Arbitration Committee.

Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:05, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Empty, not empty

Hi Liz,

I kind of randomly came upon Category:WikiProject Gemology and Jewelry - Gemstones today, which you speedied back in August as empty. However, there are over 300 pages in it currently. Since it's populated by a Wikiproject banner, it's certainly possible that a parameter was changed at some point (and maybe changed back). Normally, I'd just recreate the category, but I figured an undelete would be preferable in case there was any actual content on the category page (I can't really check, so have no idea). Thanks, –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 21:28, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks for letting me know! There was no talk page to restore so you can make one if you care to. Liz Read! Talk! 23:56, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving at AE

Hi Liz. Per this edit I have tried to restore the archiving instructions at AE which got clobbered (inadvertently) by this edit of 21:47, 30 January 2020 by MyMoloboaccount. I had noticed that the One-click Archiver was sending archived threads off into an unfamiliar place. For example, your recent one-click archive sent the thread to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Archive 260, a target I had never heard of. In my opinion, all of the AE one-clicks since 21:47 on 30 January ought to be undone. The usual location for archived threads is WP:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive. During this period the normal archiving bot User:Lowercase sigmabot III did not do anything at AE so in my view only the one-clicks need to be fixed.

As to how to do it: the simplest might be to to through the history of AE, undo all the one-click archiving edits since 21:47 on 30 January, delete the page at WP:Arbitration/Archive 260 and just wait for the bot. Future one-clicks ought to work correctly since the instructions have been fixed. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:52, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, man, Ed. I meant to clean up the page, not send discussions off into the ether. I'm glad you noticed. I have a little time now to sort out the archiving pages and the current discussions will not be closed and archived any time soon. Thanks again for noticing this and bringing it to my attention.
By the way, I discovered the archiving tool on my talk page was automatically archiving discussion threads to the archive which was the most empty and had the most free space, not the most recent archive page chronologically. So, I have ceased the automatically archiving of this page and still need to go through my talk page archives and sort through the discussions, putting them on the correct page. I guess sometimes these tools are a little wonky. Liz Read! Talk! 17:03, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Well, that was simpler than I expected. Liz Read! Talk! 17:13, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! But in terms of the bot doing the wrong thing on your page, do you mean this bot edit of 5 January? The bot archives into a numbered file as designated in your current talk page header. Whenever the bot considers an archive to be full, it updates the number and saves it back to your talk page. Back on 4 January your talk page had 'counter = 23' in the header. When you do manual archiving you might consider updating the counter value each time. EdJohnston (talk) 17:52, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What, you mean this is my mistake and not something I can blame on a wayward bot? I can see that there are things I forgot when I was gone for a year. Thanks, Ed. Liz Read! Talk! 16:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, being away from Wikipedia a year might help to improve your mood, when you are a person who spends much time in the admin spaces. EdJohnston (talk) 17:58, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Categories used by Template:WikiProject Gemology and Jewelry

Please restore these 6 category pages:

Thanks. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:13, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Thanks for letting me know, davidwr. Liz Read! Talk! 16:34, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Doveman (Thomas Bartlett)

Hi there,

I'm looking for a missing article and your name is the most recent trace I can find of it so perhaps you can help. I've just noticed that the article about the American musician Thomas Bartlett, also known as Doveman, has disappeared. There are lots of redlinks to it as he's mentioned in a lot of articles, including Nico Muhly and The Gloaming (album). All I can find is a record that you deleted (G8) what seems to have been a redirect page to a nonexistent page Doveman on Jan 10 2020. And that the Doveman page itself was deleted in 2007! I know there was an article about this person, Thomas Bartlett, within the last year, but can't find it by any kind of search. The Thomas Bartlett disambiguation page has the redlink to Doveman. I don't remember the exact name of the article, unfortunately. Any help finding it would be much appreciated. Thanks! HazelAB (talk) 15:23, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, HazelAB,
This is actually the second inquiry I've gotten about restoring this article since I deleted the redirect so I'm going to ping everyone involved and see if we can recover a version of the content that doesn't violate copyright. Here's the timeline of what happened that I can piece together from the contribution histories:
  • Jan. 2nd - Justlettersandnumbers changed Doveman article to a redirect to The Gloaming article
  • Jan. 2nd - Justlettersandnumbers tagged The Gloaming article for copyright problems
  • Jan. 9th - MER-C deleted the The Gloaming article for having unaddressed copyright problems
  • Jan. 10th - I deleted the broken redirect from the Doveman redirect to the now deleted The Gloaming article.
Justlettersandnumbers, would you object if I restored the Doveman article to before you changed it to a redirect? Two people have contacted me about restoring it in the past few weeks. We can tag it for its deficiencies so that editors can improve it. What do you think? Liz Read! Talk! 16:12, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Liz! I am of course completely happy for you to do whatever you think best here. I had not remembered why I redirected it, but now I see that I wrote "swathes of unsourced content, no sources to indicate independent notability". If HazelAB is confident that there are enough sources to support a page then all good; otherwise an alternative might be to restore a bare-bones version of The Gloaming (which did have some sources and is probably more notable), and recreate Doveman as a redirect. Over to you! Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:50, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Liz and Justlettersandnumbers! I am confident that there are enough sources to support a Doveman or Thomas Bartlett page and will undertake to provide them if the page is restored. I would also like to see a bare bones version of The Gloaming (group) restored as they are indeed notable. I will undertake to improve their article too if this can be done. Thanks! HazelAB (talk) 12:53, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, HazelAB,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I've decided to restore Doveman and entrust you to look over the "unsourced content" and see if there are references available to support the claims in the article. As for The Gloaming, there were copyright concerns and I decided to restore that article and move it into your user space so you can find it at User:HazelAB/The Gloaming. I have deleted the bulk of the content so it is pretty "bare bones". I see you've been editing for 9 years and I hope you will look at the edit summaries and see the comments about questionable content. Good luck with your efforts to improve the articles. Liz Read! Talk! 03:51, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Liz! I'll get right to work on them today. HazelAB (talk) 13:07, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you and question

Comment: Thank you for your recent advice. I have restored the Twinkle notify defaults. I thought it was optional.

Question: I've started studying AfD, PROD, CSD and the associated guidelines. I nominated my first PROD and was hoping you could comment on whether it is good, questionable or bad. Page is Tilak Raj. The article changed recently from one about a cricketer to a performer [2]. They might be the same person, but I think the page might have been hijacked. I think both "versions" fail GNG, and I believe both fail WP:BLPPROD, but due to the past version having references (none really meet RS), I tagged it as PROD due to the Scope section of BLPPROD.

Comment: It looks like my PROD from the question above created some activity on that page. Eventually, the page has been changed back to a cricketer and refs have been added (or restored).

I understand the constraints on your time and I appreciate any feedback you can provide.

Hope this finds you well.   // Timothy :: talk 

Hi, Timothy,
I understand your mistaken impression that notifications are optional. I once considered CSD notices optional for empty category speedy deletions because I thought editors were not invested in their category creations like they would be if an article they created was tagged for deletion. And then, an upset editor brought a complaint against me to ANI because they were angry they had not been notified about an empty category deletion. So, since then, I consider all deletion processes to require a notification.
And, from their point-of-view, an editor has no access to see their deleted contributions so if an article/template/redirect/category they created is deleted, they would have no record of it at all if they aren't notified it's been tagged. They can't go through their contributions to see what they've worked on because deleted contributions are only visible to admins. So, it's important to let them know what happened to pages they've created.
As for PRODs, my general advice is not to PROD articles that are currently in the process of being created and edited because the article likely will be changing soon, improving, and the criteria you cited for your PROD might no longer apply. I don't use PROD a lot but when I do, it is usually if I come across an older, obscure article from back in the day (2000s) when sourcing requirements weren't enforced and the subject of the article doesn't seem notable. Remember, PRODs are for "uncontroversial deletion" so if an article is currently being worked on by an editor, deleting it will not be uncontroversial, it will be actively contested! I hope that answers your questions. Liz Read! Talk! 01:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Upage

You still using that dell laptop? Or were you the one that said they dropped their laptop in water or something? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:27, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How can you remember that comment?! Yes, I work on an 8 year old Dell laptop. I did drop it but not in water. It just made the internal clock wonky. What, may I ask, made you remember that random remark? Liz Read! Talk! 01:47, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
We were talking about, or you joined in on Don't Stuff Beans Up your nose, I think I pinged you on that comment on something, then you said your laptop has a wonky clock. If you Laptop's clock is still wonky I think it might be a dead CMOS battery... Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 02:03, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It could be. But I'm getting error messages because my Windows version is no longer supported and there is no way I'm purchasing a new version of Windows for a laptop from 2012! Time for a new computer. Liz Read! Talk! 02:08, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Try Linux, at least it does not force updates on you while you work, and it's free, it's also system friendly and does not take much ram, I use Ubuntu, it's free! Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 02:12, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 1 March 2020

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Administrators' newsletter – March 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2020).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops must not undo or alter CheckUser or Oversight blocks, rather than should not.
  • A request for comment confirmed that sandboxes of established but inactive editors may not be blanked due solely to inactivity.

Technical news

  • Following a discussion, Twinkle's default CSD behavior will soon change, most likely this week. After the change, Twinkle will default to "tagging mode" if there is no CSD tag present, and default to "deletion mode" if there is a CSD tag present. You will be able to always default to "deletion mode" (the current behavior) using your Twinkle preferences.

Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:20, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Slow down!

Please read the notices I left in regards to speedy deletions you been making. I'm almost certain somebody has messed up a template. Categories and disestablishments by decade are being both lumped into a establishments category....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:07, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BHG has it back under control[3]. All the speedy deletion nominations need to be withdrawn. We can now return to our regularly scheduled program irregularly scheduled editing.......William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:18, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, William! Thanks for tracking down the issue that was causing them to be empty.
Just FYI, speedy deleted-tagged empty categories sit for 7 days just to look into any problems that might be causing them to mistakenly be empty. Thanks for letting me know. It looks like UnitedStatesian has gotten to some of these categories and I'll get to the rest. Liz Read! Talk! 19:27, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Block request

Could you please block user:47.15.238.55. AIV will delete my report because she is already blocked, yet the block is only for certain pages. CLCStudent (talk) 20:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, CLCStudent, I've issued a short block for the vandalism, I hope it won't interfere with the range block that already exists. Liz Read! Talk! 20:03, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It won't interfere with the other block. as the other block is for a range. Thank you! CLCStudent (talk) 20:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My awkward move attempt regarding Amish Acres / The Barns at Nappanee

I'm only contacting you and not posting this to a centralized community area because you blanked the The Barns at Nappanee talk page and happen to be an admin.

In my attempt to move the Amish Acres article to The Barns at Nappanee, I accidentally moved the former to Talk:The Barns at Nappanee because I was looking at the options in the dropdown menu (it had been so long since I had done a move that I don't even remember a dropdown menu) and accidentally left the menu option as "talk" without noticing. Instead of just undoing the move, since somehow, probably in a state of mild panic, I misremembered that moves couldn't simply be undone, I then moved Talk:The Barns at Nappanee to The Barns at Nappanee. Because of the initial weird cross-space move, Talk:Amish Acres still exists in the same place, and I can't move that to Talk:The Barns at Nappanee because of course the redirect page is in the way, which is why it needs to be deleted. I realize that putting a speedy delete template on there probably wasn't the best choice but I couldn't think of anything better. If I understand correctly, if Talk:The Barns at Nappanee gets deleted and then Talk:Amish Acres is moved to Talk:The Barns at Nappanee, the end result will be the same as if I hadn't made my initial mistake, including the retained page histories, it's just that the move history will be goofy. Any help is appreciated. Mapsax (talk) 00:48, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Mapsax, but I can't follow your narrative. Right now, I can't tell what page is supposed to go where. Could you simplify it to something like this?
Page A needs to go to Page B (A>B)
Page X needs to go to Talk page Q (X>Q)
Talk page T (which has been deleted) needs be restored and to go to Page V (T>V)
Page H needs to be deleted
Something like that. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 03:35, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Talk: The Barns at Nappanee needs to be deleted
Talk: Amish Acres needs to be moved to Talk: The Barns at Nappanee
Obviously the actions must be taken in the order listed. Mapsax (talk) 03:49, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Mapsax,
Right now, both Amish Acres and Talk:Amish Acres are proper redirects to The Barns at Nappanee and Talk:The Barns at Nappanee. It could be that this edit by EdJohnston already achieved what you were looking to do with your suggested deletion and move. Liz Read! Talk! 17:47, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, not really – even though the respective redirects are now correct, Talk:The Barns at Nappanee doesn't have the talk page history of Talk:Amish Acres, even if the former looks the same now on the surface as the latter did. Mapsax (talk) 01:46, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There has benn no genuine content addition in the edit history of either Talk:Amish Acres or Talk:The Barns at Nappanee. (For example, no actual talk discussions). The only edits are maintenance edits. Moreover, no pages were deleted so all the original history is still preserved. I would be tempted to call this issue resolved. EdJohnston (talk) 01:58, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but I still would feel better if there were some kind of reference on the current talk page, like "this page used to be located at Talk:Amish Acres?redirect=no, its history differs slightly from this page's"; I seem to remember a template for this usage, but it could be my mind playing tricks on me...again, sorry about all of the confusion. Mapsax (talk) 02:12, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I put a note at the top of Talk:The Barns at Nappanee. I decided against the "Split article" and "Copied" templates, and the "hatnote" template wouldn't work because of the "=" in the URL. Mapsax (talk) 03:51, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Hindi Khabar

Hello Liz, I noticed that you recently deleted the article for Hindi Khabar. Can you please consider recovering it? In the talk page of the article I also mentioned why this article should exist since it's one of the leading channels in some states of India and has the most viewership in Uttar Pradesh therefore it should have an article of its own where people can get the proper information about it. Thanks Axeals (talk) 05:15, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Axeals,
This article was deleted previously through a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hindi Khabar, which I think you would know about because you've created this article twice. Plus, you have a copy of this article already at Draft:Hindi Khabar where you can continue to work on it. I recommend submitting it to Articles for Creation once you have better sources. But it must greatly improve from its current state or it will be deleted as the recreation of the originally deleted article. Please do not move your draft directly into the main space as it is now or it will be deleted again. Liz Read! Talk! 17:38, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question about draft deletion

I have a question about the draft, Donga Science, which have been deleted. I think that I wouldn't do much edit for few years, but maybe later, can I restore the page? Is it possible? Thanks, Sincerely, Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 00:52, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Luke Kern Choi 5,
 Done Draft:Donga Science is restored! Happy that you are going to be working on it. Liz Read! Talk! 01:04, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If I have a page deleted, can it be still restored after few years?Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 01:16, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It depends. There are different types of deletion (read over Wikipedia:Deletion process for details). In your case, it was a draft of an article that wasn't actively being worked on which are deleted after 6 months of inactivity. Those pages can be restored at any time upon request. If the page was deleted after a deletion discussion (like at Articles for deletion), restoration is less likely to happen. Then there are PRODs and speedy deletion, too.
Do you remember the name of the page? I can look into it for you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:21, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Articles

Hey, liz.

You recently deleted two of the articles I created Bharatiya Kisan Union and Ima Market and three redirects to the latter; Ima Keithel, Nupi Keithel and Khwairamband Bazar under WP:G5. I had appealed the block for a review and have been unblocked since on grounds of it being inconclusive (or so I'm assuming). Would it be possible for you to restore the pages? Hope it is not a bother.

Tayi Arajakate Talk 13:48, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I think that was every page that was mistakenly deleted, Tayi Arajakate. I'm sorry that you were misidentified as a sockpuppet. Liz Read! Talk! 21:20, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of 2020 England police, fire and crime commissioner elections

Can you please provide a reason as to why this was deleted. I provided a detailed explanation of why when contesting the speedy deletion of the article and why the 4 police, fire and crime commissioner elections should have a separate article to the 36 2020 England and Wales police, and crime commissioner elections. These are two similar but legally distinct types of elections with the offices having different powers and covering different legal jurisdictions. Sparkle1 (talk) 21:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Sparkle1,
2020 England police, fire and crime commissioner elections had essentially the same content as 2020 England and Wales police and crime commissioner elections. Please add information to the existing article. Liz Read! Talk! 22:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That defies logic. The elections are different. They are for different bodies. The article was a split from the other as covering Police and crime commissioners and police, fire and crime commissioners in the same article is confusing. the title is not reflective of the two distinct roles and powers and this cannot be rectified. There was not duplication, there was splitting. The information on police fire and crime commissioners had been removed from the page on police and crime commissioners, in particular, the four areas with police, fire and crime commissioners. Why do mayors for a place have separate articles from the elections of members of the body? by the logic used to remove this article, there should not be separate articles yet that consensus on Wikipedia for English elections is clearly to do so.Sparkle1 (talk) 00:01, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sparkle1,
I am not going to argue with you about how elections for fire commissioners are different from those for crime commissioners. The articles looked identical to the editor who tagged the page and also to me. But I have restored the article with edit history at User:Sparkle1/Sandbox where you can continue to work on this page and try to make any distinctions that exist more obvious that they appear to be.
I'm warning you though that if you move this page right back into the main space of the encyclopedia without significant changes, it will be again tagged and deleted, by a different administrator who will probably not be willing to give you another chance at it. I encourage you, when you think the article is ready, to submit it to Articles for Creation where it can be reviewed by experienced editors and approved. It is much less likely to be deleted if you send it through the AfC process. Good luck. Liz Read! Talk! 00:24, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your constructive response to this. Sparkle1 (talk) 09:20, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail

Hello, Liz. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.Ysilv008 (talk) 06:05, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Liz, I am a student and am doing an article on Alfred "Bo" Lomahquahu. Would you please re upload my article so I could fix any mistakes I had on it? I didnt intentionally mean to copy information. Thank you

Hello, Ysilv008,
What do you mean by "re upload"? Liz Read! Talk! 15:13, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hi again, by that I mean like if you can make it to where I can work on it still and the article be live again, because I was notified that you deleted it? I am not sure if it is correct but I was instructed to contact you because my article was deleted by you. Sorry for any confusion and inconvenience. I just hope I can get my article back so I can continue working on it because it is an assignment for one of my classes in college. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ysilv008 (talk • contribs) 15:50, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ysilv008,
I just deleted the redirect from User:Ysilv008/sandbox to Alfred "Bo" Lomahquah. According the tagging, admin ReaderofthePack deleted your article Alfred "Bo" Lomahquah on March 4th because it was a copyright violation of this website. There is no point in restoring a broken redirect as long as the article is deleted.
You can try contacting ReaderofthePack to see if they will restore the original article but this is typically not done if there was copyrighted material used. Liz Read! Talk! 20:52, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I can't restore the article but I could email you the content. Then you could remove the copyright-violating material. However, should you cut and paste the exact same material into an article on Wikipedia, it will be deleted again. Let me know if you want the article emailed to you. Liz Read! Talk! 20:55, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:PD Greece

Category:PD Greece is no longer empty. Please re-create. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:44, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Liz Read! Talk! 18:19, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration evidence

Thank you for helping me out with the length of my evidence concerning Jytdog! I really appreciate the heads up. I was still a newbie when I ran screaming off of Wikipedia, and since it's been almost two years, I find I have forgotten most of what little I knew. Another editor says I might have made an error in putting my analysis of evidence on the workspace page--should it be rebuttal in my evidence section instead or what? Thank you! I genuinely appreciate the help. Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:45, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Jenhawk777,
Glad you returned to editing Wikipedia except getting into an arbitration case isn't the easiest reintroduction. I'm not sure why you are posting in the Workshop section as discussion usually moves there after the Evidence phase is over which isn't for another 10 days. And I'm not sure who you are rebutting as Jytdog hasn't posted yet.
But I'll check over your contributions in the case in the next day. It's late here & I'm about to turn in. Liz Read! Talk! 04:50, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanx for such a quick response! I have now moved my response off the analysis page and into rebuttal in my own section. I am so grateful for your help! But I haven't really returned. I got notified about this through my email and couldn't breathe for awhile realizing Jytdog was trying to come back. I felt obligated to all the unsuspecting newbies out there not to say something. That's all I'm doing. Then I will ghost off quietly into the night once again. Jenhawk777 (talk) 05:09, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In re Draft:Saucer Tennis

The creator and pretty-much sole contributor is, at present, blocked, and has demanded that everything about the subject be removed. Given the circumstances, I thus interpret it as a G7 request from him. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Onward to 2020 22:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thank you, I appreciate the explanation. Liz Read! Talk! 22:40, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Onward to 2020 22:47, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of coffee for you

You seem to be patrolling in several places which I am watching also, and have beaten me to welcoming a contributor. Thanks for the good work. ↠Pine (✉) 23:44, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Pine! I'm pleased to say that I'm not having to make many reverts on the coronavirus articles I check out. More solid editing than I expected with such a fast-moving subject. Liz Read! Talk! 03:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dinesh Bond moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Dinesh Bond, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:30, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, AngusWOOF, but I just fixed a broken redirect on the page. I expect this draft will be deleted. Liz Read! Talk! 16:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you so much & Best wishes. Arenasky (talk) 07:52, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Arenasky. I'm taking a self-imposed Wikipedia break. Too much time at home on the computer. Be back later. Liz Read! Talk! 00:02, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/List of people with coronavirus disease 2019

Does A3 apply only to articles?--Launchballer 14:18, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Launchballer,
Yes. In general, I wouldn't tag any empty talk page for deletion unless the article/category/template/project page has been deleted or tagged for deletion and then it would be a G8. Many talk pages have been created that are blank and haven't been utilized yet and we don't go around and delete them all. Of course, this could change in the future but this is current practice. Liz Read! Talk! 14:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE March newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2020 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the March newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since December 2019. All being well, we're planning to issue these quarterly in 2020, balancing the need to communicate widely with the avoidance of filling up talk pages. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

Election results: There was little changeover in the roster of Guild Coordinators, with Miniapolis stepping down with distinction as a coordinator emeritus while Jonesey95 returned as lead coordinator. The next election is scheduled for June 2020 and all Wikipedians in good standing may participate.

January Drive: Thanks to everyone for the splendid work, completing 215 copy edits including 56 articles from the Requests page and 116 backlog articles from the target months of June to August 2019. At the conclusion of the drive there was a record low of 323 articles in the copy editing backlog. Of the 27 editors who signed up for the drive, 21 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

February Blitz: Of the 15 editors who signed up for this one-week blitz, 13 completed at least one copy edit. A total of 32 articles were copy edited, evenly split between the twin goals of requests and the oldest articles from the copy-editing backlog. Full results are here.

March Drive: Currently underway, this event is targeting requests and backlog articles from September to November 2019. As of 18 March, the backlog stands at a record low of 253 articles and is expected to drop further as the drive progresses. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Help set a new record and sign up now!

Progress report: As of 18 March, GOCE copyeditors have completed 161 requests in 2020 and there was a net reduction of 385 articles from the copy-editing backlog – a 60% decrease from the beginning of the year. Well done and thank you everyone!

Election reminder: It may only be March but don't forget our mid-year Election of Coordinators opens for nominations on 1 June. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here.

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, Reidgreg, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist

To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion request

Dear Liz, the user is globally locked, because they spammed cross-wiki. The content of this sandbox was deleted from various project (such as pt, it, fa, etc. or Wikidata). Please delete the page here too. Bencemac (talk) 07:48, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Liz Read! Talk! 15:13, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re: 186.96.116.138

Hi, this is a follow-up message in regards to my ANI post about anonymous user 186.96.116.138. They are continuing their unsourced changes despite the warning you gave them a few days ago. See also this diff, which I just reverted. Jalen Folf (talk) 01:23, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I gave them a short block since they haven't engaged on their talk page and all of their edits are being reverted. Thanks for alerting me, JalenFolf. Liz Read! Talk! 03:07, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Bartko

This is just a heads up.

I saw your edit to the article here[4]. Per WP:NOTMEMORIAL, I removed the tributes section in its entirety. I have also put the page on my watchlist....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:17, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question- The article makes mention of a book Bartko self-published. It's only source- The book's Amazon page. Do you think this is book spam?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:56, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I commend you, WilliamJE, for following our guidelines. Regarding this source, the Amazon page is unreliable for information about Jim Bartko and it looks like you removed it as well. A mention of the book itself is okay and several of the newspaper sources mention it and the circumstances that led it to be written. Liz Read! Talk! 14:22, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting categories

Why did you delete category Category:2020 disasters in the United Kingdom and left four articles without parents? I had to recreate the category just to avoid red-linked categories. Dimadick (talk) 15:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Dimadick,
If you look at the log of Category:2020 disasters in the United Kingdom, you'll see it was deleted by Bbb23 because it was created by a blocked or banned editor, in this case, Netgg68. Liz Read! Talk! 19:51, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]


response to drt1245's report of disruptive editing by user domskitect


Dear Liz, you also had deleted my earlier contribution to the page panic buying earlier today, no doubt for your own good reasons. drt1245 subsequently reported me for disruptive editing. I have posted my responses to that here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Domskitect#Response_to_Notice_of_edit_warring_and_disruptive_editing

Thank you https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz&action=edit

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