User talk:Cirt

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Other neat portal ideas for longer term

• Longer term ideas to think about from other portals:

1. Events section, like: "On this day" e.g., Biography, Religion, United States; "Selected anniversaries" e.g., War; "Calendar" at Holidays. Interesting idea of "Month selected anniversaries", at Oregon.
2. Model intro with some rotating images, after Portal:Oregon, Portal:Indiana, Portal:Iceland/Intro and Portal:Philosophy of science/Intro.
3. Revamp DYK sections w/ free-use images, model after Portal:Criminal justice and Portal:Oregon.
4. Portal palettes at User:RichardF/Palettes/Portals. Comparable color schemes can be developed from the various hue lists at User:RichardF/Palettes. Also see Portal:Box-header.
5. If there are a lot of categories, then categories section to 2 columns, like in Portal:Indiana.

   Also take some time to check out style/formatting at Portal:Indiana Cirt (talk)

Note to self

• MakeRef
• Reflinks
• Citation tool for Google Books
• Citation tool for DOIs
• Tools, part 1: References, external links, categories and size
• User:Edward/Find link

independent reliable secondary sources

• User:Citation bot/use

• {{findsources}}

Refs inside scroll box

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Cite templates

<ref>{{cite book| last =  | first =  | authorlink =  | coauthors =  | title =  | publisher =  | year =  | location =  | page =  | url =  | doi =  | id =    | isbn = }}</ref>

<ref>{{cite news| last =  | first =  | coauthors =  | title =  | work =  | language =  | publisher =  | page =  | date =  | url =  | accessdate =  }}</ref>

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Citation model

The Simpsons (season 3)

Body text in-cite

<ref name="REFNAME">[[#LASTNAME|LASTNAME]], p. PAGENUMBER</ref>

References section

(reference template from WP:CIT)

*<cite id=LASTNAME>REFERENCE</cite>

Different model

• Template:Citation
• Template:Harvnb
• Example: <ref name="REFNAME">{{Harvnb|LAST|YEAR|p=PAGENUMBER}}</ref>

See models at The General in His Labyrinth and Mario Vargas Llosa.

More info. Cirt (talk)

More at Wikipedia:Harvard citation template examples.

And Template talk:Harvard citation no brackets.

Cirt (talk)

Dispatch

Cirt, Awadewit suggested that you might be interested in writing a Signpost Dispatch article on Featured portals (the only area of featured content we haven't covered). Sample previous articles are at {{FCDW}}. We've covered:

• Featured content overview
• Peer review
• Did you know
• Featured lists
• Good articles
• Featured sounds
• Featured topics
• Images
• TFA
• And Featured articles many times: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-07-21/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-04-07/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-10-13/Dispatches

None of them start out looking like that: if an editor initially just chunks in some text, many others chip in to tweak it up to Signpost standards. For example, someone wrote this, which Karanacs, Royalbroil and I turned into this, so if you just chunk in some text as a start, others can help finish it off. Another example, I put in this outline, and Karanacs brought it up to this. Other editors have written almost complete and clean Dispatches without much need for other editing. If you're interested, please weigh in and coordinate at WT:FCDW In case you're interested, you could just begin sandboxing something at WP:FCDW/Portals and pop over to WT:FCDW to leave a note when you're ready for others to help out. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Will mull this over and most likely draft something up. Cirt (talk) 11:54, 18 November 2108 (UTC)

Razzies progress

• 15th Golden Raspberry Awards through 29th Golden Raspberry Awards = reformatting process done.
  • Note: Going to have to go back and model these after the modifications made subsequently to 29th Golden Raspberry Awards.
• 29th Golden Raspberry Awards - so far only one expanded with sourcing research. (WP:FL)
• Razzie Award for Worst New Star = reformatting process done, next to use Talk:Razzie Award for Worst Picture as model to reformat other pages in Category:Golden Raspberry Awards by category (with subsection breaks by decade)

Cirt (talk)

BSPlayer article deletion

84.255.194.237 (talk) 09:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC) Hi, article about BSPlayer has been deleted, in our opinion unjustly, because many other multimedia players have none citations, and they are not deleted (ie. Totem (media player), Media Go ... the list is almost endless). Also claim about being "not-notable" is not true, please check http://bsplayer.en.softonic.com/ (6.9 mil downloads) or http://download.cnet.com/BS-Player/3000-13632_4-10722361.html (1,4 mil downloads). How could we restore BSPlayer article and keep it active? Thank you in advance, Ico

Suggest you register an account. Then, you could work on it, as a proposed draft version article, within a subpage of your userspace. -- Cirt (talk) 23:31, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Can i petition for reinstatement of the entry or at least can I get a copy of the old (historical) version for my edits, so i can redo them according to Wikipedia rules? Thank you. Ico-Man (talk) 14:40, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

now at User:Ico-Man/BS.Player. -- Cirt (talk) 18:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Draft article is online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ico-Man#BSPlayer. It is as clean as possible. Ico-Man (talk) 09:17, 9 December 2010 (UTC) Now what? Ico-Man (talk) 09:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

There are zero sources cited there. -- Cirt (talk) 20:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Can you tell me, where are the sources here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomplayer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-Multimedia_Player , amongst others? I don't see any multimeda players having any other sources that official pages and review pages. Ico-Man (talk) 08:25, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument. -- Cirt (talk) 12:15, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

But it is a valid argument. It shows that there are severe inconcistencies between articles, which are not good for the reputation of online encyclopedia. What kind of sources would be appropriate for a media player who's on the market for 10 years now? Reviews by independent sources (cnet download.com and softonic.com... and we can add more) are the only online sources for software program, and there are plenty in proposed draft article. Ico-Man (talk) 18:42, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

"We can add more ..." -- who is "we" ??? -- Cirt (talk) 18:44, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

We are the users who would like to contribute. Could you , please, answer my previous questions. Ico-Man (talk) 06:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Is the account called Ico-Man (talk · contribs) operated by more than one individual? Does the account Ico-Man (talk · contribs) represent a company or organization? -- Cirt (talk) 06:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

No. No. No. Anything else? Ico-Man (talk) 09:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC) Can you tell us, which sources would be appropriate here, except for software reviews, which we have? Ico-Man (talk) 14:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

User:Ico-Man/BS.Player = this page has no References cited, just a bunch of external links in two sects. Please read WP:CITE, WP:RS, WP:V, WP:CIT, and WP:Article development. -- Cirt (talk) 18:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Will do.Ico-Man (talk) 07:58, 20 December 2010 (UTC) References were added. Ico-Man (talk) 00:08, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Those are basically just bare external links, not in-line citations to references. Please read the links I recommended, above. -- Cirt (talk) 00:09, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Radiation-Induced Mass

Can this article be undeleted? I originally created the article and on checking my watchlist I suddenly found it was deleted. The deletion discussion does not convincingly support deletion in my view, so I hope the discussion can be re-opened by undeleting the article. The original text of the article was:

Radiation-Induced Mass is the concept that the rest mass is a linear function of the local radiant flux. [1].

References Shahriar S. Afshar (1999). "Non-machian, Lorentz-invariant inertia: The first step towards the theory of GravitoElectroMagnetism". AIP Conference Proceedings 458: 1033–1039.

I think it can be extended with more information or recent developments. But in order to do this the article needs to be undeleted first.(Bgeelhoed (talk) 17:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC))

 Done, made available as draft page to be worked on as proposed version, in userspace, at User:Bgeelhoed/Radiation-Induced Mass. -- Cirt (talk) 17:56, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

thank you this is useful (Bgeelhoed (talk) 02:23, 27 December 2010 (UTC))

Request

You seem to have a sixth sense about socks. What do you think about User:Nighthawk359: User_talk:Nighthawk359 ? He's an SPA, but I feel I have seen such actions before. Bearian (talk) 00:23, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Not sure, but I recall someone doing the same kinds of edits to Tom DiNapoli - right down to the "living with his parents" stuff. Bearian (talk) 18:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Hornet Archive - Please Restore

Hello. We'd like to appeal the deletion of the Hornet Archive Wikipedia page. Starting in 1992, our group maintained a community site called The Hornet Archive; first hosted by the University of Florida's engineering department, then later at the Walnut Creek CDROM ftp.cdrom.com archive, and finally at its own domain, hornet.org. During its heyday, we hosted 16,248 productions from a thriving community of coders, graphicians, and musicians. This community made "demos," which were multimedia exhibitions, usually written in Assembly Language, using proprietary sound, graphics, and memory-management libraries. They were amazing feats of software design and efficiency, combined with evocative visuals and hypnotic music. Demo sceners were pioneers of early PC computing, squeezing high end visual effects out of underpowered CPUs. And the Hornet Archive was proud to serve as a central hub for the exchange of these productions.

Within the "demo scene" community The Hornet Archive was well respected. We are still remembered today as a home for "classic" PC demos. After a long and successful run, our archive closed up shop in 1998 (all though we still continue to host the archive to this day, frozen as it was in 1998).

We were grateful in the mid-2000's when the community rallied to create the Wikipedia page that would record the history of our archive, so that these details would not fade with memory. Because these details are of interest to many people. The Hornet Archive was highly trafficked, widely appreciated, and culturally relevant.

We understand that the page was flagged some months ago, as lacking sufficient verifiable sources and citations. Unfortunately, we did not have a "watch" set up, so none of us saw the alerts, or knew to add these sources. I have a dozen magazines in a box in the closet that could attest to our existence and impact in the 90's. Please consider restoring the page, and we will add citations and sources. Thank you for your consideration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.36.136.223 (talk) 07:36, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Suggest you register an account on Wikipedia. Then, you could work on a proposed draft version, in a subpage of your userspace. -- Cirt (talk) 17:14, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

R3cgm (talk) 05:37, 22 December 2010 (UTC) Account registered. We will work on a proposed draft version in a subpage of my userspace. Thanks.

Okay, thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 17:19, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Mercedes-Benz 300D & 240D AFD

Hi You deleted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mercedes-Benz_300D Can You delete this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mercedes-Benz_240D) as well, as I nominated these two articles quoting the same reason? I wanted put them together at AFD, but I'm not proficient with nominating for deletion as I rarely do this.

SHAMAN 17:45, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

 Done. -- Cirt (talk) 17:45, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank You very much. SHAMAN 17:54, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome. -- Cirt (talk) 17:56, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Cirt! I'll work on my article!

Keyzpro (talk) 22:01, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

No worries, -- Cirt (talk) 17:18, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Why?

Why did you delete the list of last occurences? That was one of the pages in Wikipedia that i refered to the most... ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.152.13.55 (talk) 21:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

What is this referring to, link please? -- Cirt (talk) 17:18, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Right here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_last_occurrences

Why was it deleted? It was one of the pages on wikipedia that i referred to the most to find when the last type of species died out etc like for zoology reasearch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.52.208 (talk) 17:25, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The consensus of the deletion discussion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of last occurrences) was to delete. Mostly it was too broad a category note WP:IINFO CTJF83 chat 17:30, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Who are you?

But whats the point in deleting it? Didnt you consider that some people may find it useful? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.52.208 (talk) 18:33, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm an experienced user who has Cirt's talk page on my watchlist, so I'm helping him out by responding. I was just giving you the reason for its deletion, nothing more. I didn't vote nor delete it, and since I can't see it, can't weigh in on its "usefulness" CTJF83 chat 19:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Alright but i'd like a reply from Cirt since he was the user who deleted it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.52.208 (talk) 12:53, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Ron Cooper (bicycle framebuilder)

The Ron Cooper (bicycle framebuilder) is listed for deletion on two lists. Please consider adding it to the cycling list, if there is one. I would do it, but I don't know how. --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:16, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, will take a look. -- Cirt (talk) 17:17, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Scientology sock found?

Wanted your opinion on a user i found by accident User:Scientology major it was created shortly after WP:ARBSCI, as our Scientology Sock expert thought you might be interested. It seems a little blatant for Shutterbug The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 20:14, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Bzuk (talk) 15:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, reported it to WP:SPI for further analysis. -- Cirt (talk) 17:17, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Christmas Card

Merry Christmas

At this festive time, I would like to say a very special thank you to my fellow editors, and take the time to wish you and your loved ones a very Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year. And, in case you can't wait until the big day, I've left you each three special presents, click to unwrap :) Acather96 (talk) 10:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

File:Yellow and Red present.gif

Thank you very much! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 17:17, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Wisne (3rd nomination)

Can you share how this was not a no-consensus default to keep? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 02:13, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, for one thing there were twice as many editors commenting for deletion as for keep. However, I would be most willing to provide a userfied version within a subpage of your userspace. We could discuss and take a look at analyzing improvements, to that page. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 17:17, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:In the Shadow of the Moons FRENCH.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:In the Shadow of the Moons FRENCH.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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Orphaned non-free image File:In the Shadow of the Moons GERMAN.jpg

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If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Skier Dude2 (talk) 03:10, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Template talk:Scientology

Hi Cirt. I posted a note at Template talk:Scientology. TIA for taking a look at it. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 06:39, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice, will take a look. -- Cirt (talk) 17:15, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

RfC

Hi. As you've previously tried to solve a dispute concerning MickMacNee, I'm notifying you that a Request for Comment regarding MickMacNee has been filed at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/MickMacNee. Your comments there would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. HeyMid (contribs) 11:29, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the update, -- Cirt (talk) 17:15, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

FYI, I've added a couple sentences to my outside view, which you endorsed. You may wish to review it to ensure you're still fine with my comments.  RGTraynor  01:49, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay thanks, done. -- Cirt (talk) 04:51, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Sociology membership

I see that within the last year you have made at least one substantial comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sociology, but you have not added yourself to the project's official member list. This prevents you from, among other things, receiving our sociology newsletter, as that member list acts as our newsletter mailing list (you can find the latest issue of our sociology newsletter here). If you'd like to receive the newsletter and help us figure out how many members we really have, please consider joining our WikiProject and adding yourself to our official member list. Thank you, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 13:42, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice, will look into it. -- Cirt (talk) 17:14, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Probably not going to join this WikiProject at this point in time, but thank you for the interest. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 00:16, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Some things I would like to discuss

1. First of all, I think Larry_King should go under the category:[Category:American_people_of_Belarusian-Jewish_descent] because it says in the article that his parents emigrated from Belarus and they were Jewish. Also I think Peter_Douglas and Eric_Douglas should go under that category as since their father Kirk_Douglas is listed under that category as well. 2. I think it should be noted in the Alexandra_Powers article that her mother is Katharyn_Powers and was a writer for variety of TV series. This article says they are related: http://www.museumstuff.com/learn/topics/Katharyn_Powers Also I think in the Katharyn_Powers article these links should be added: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0584251/ http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Katharyn_Powers http://www.moviefone.com/celebrity/katharyn-powers/2035049/main http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Katharyn_Powers Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 00:40, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Good idea,s all things that are better discussed at their individual article talk pages. -- Cirt (talk) 04:50, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Alexandra Powers

Would you mind cleaning up the Alexandra Powers article. I added a reference and messed up. Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 15:43, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

goof on DYK.

Hey I wanted to contact an administrator on this. I just now noticed a goof on one of my hooks that already appeared on the Main Page and stats. It was about the Untitled Spider-Man reboot and it stated that the release date was 2011 when it was supposed to be 2012. (I even knew this, I don't know how I messed it up) But anyways I have a few questions on what could be done about it. Could it be redone the right way in the main page? If not could it be fixed on the stats and on the article talk page? I am really disappointed on that and what it done the right way somehow. Can you help? − Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 15:54, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ambassador Program is looking for new Online Ambassadors

Hi Cirt! I noticed your activity as a Good Article reviewer, and wanted to let you know about the Wikipedia Ambassador Program, and specifically the role of Online Ambassador. We're looking for friendly Wikipedians who are good at reviewing articles and giving feedback to serve as mentors for students who are assigned to write for Wikipedia in their classes.

If you're interested, I encourage you to take a look at the Online Ambassador guidelines; the "mentorship process" describes roughly what will be expected of mentors in the coming term. If that's something you want to do, please apply!

You can find instructions for applying at WP:ONLINE. The main things we're looking for in Online Ambassadors are friendliness, regular activity (since mentorship is a commitment that spans several months), and the ability to give detailed, substantive feedback on articles (both short new articles, and longer, more mature ones).

I hope to hear from you soon.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 21:53, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Larry Detwiler

Hello! Your submission of Larry Detwiler at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Calmer Waters 05:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Howes (actor) (2nd nomination)

This article has been re-created. As you took closed the previous discussion, I'm letting you know that I have nominated it at AfD. (There's probably a template for this, but I can't find it. Sorry. Not often I do this.) Peridon (talk) 12:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Article has now been speedied. Peridon (talk) 14:09, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Internet and Technology Law Desk Reference

Thank you for sharing your work Victuallers (talk) 02:05, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Peter Hitchens Faith

[1] is that a reliable source? thank you --Proud coptic (talk) 16:14, 29 December 2010 (UTC)