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September 10

Searching for template documentation

I ran across this template in an article:

which displays this:

So I decided to look at the documentation to see if there are any other parameters other than "date=".

I searched for it using these search terms:

Unencyclopedic

Wikipedia:Unencyclopedic

Template:Unencyclopedic

None of which brought me to the documentation for the {{Unencyclopedic}} template.

I even looked in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&namespace=10 -- No luck.

Two questions: first, where is the documentation for this specific template? Second, what is the correct syntax for searching that will find anything with "{{" and "}}" around it? --Guy Macon (talk) 03:05, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unencyclopedic is a redirect, the actual template is at Template:NOT. Besides the "date" parameter, it also accepts the argument "section", which if included will change the text from "this article" to "this section". --Jayron32 03:10, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Unencyclopedic was the correct search term. It takes you to Template:NOT but at the top it says "(Redirected from Template:Unencyclopedic)" if you came from there. If you click the Edit tab at top of a page then the bottom of the window will show links to all transcluded pages such as templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:00, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks! Guy Macon (talk) 09:27, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you make it harder to tell you your search engine is broken?

I tried to search for "sweet", you know, the band. What I get is "sweetness".

Now about contacting you, I have now lost all respect! Everything I thought wikipedia (yeah that's lower case) was is gone. The bureaucrateese I witnessed just to get to this point kills my faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.203.173.71 (talk • contribs)

I have said my peace, now how do I send this?

At the top of the article is a line that reads ""Sweet" redirects here. For other uses, see Sweet (disambiguation). Click the blue words that say Sweet (disambiguation). That should help you find what you want. --Jayron32 03:23, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, follow the link - we have an article, complete with glam-rock band photo, history of the band, and link to Sweet discography, which in turn brings back some old memories: "Wig-Wam Bam" etc... AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:28, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have sent it to the right place. Here are three ways to find the article you wanted via the search box:

1) Enter Sweet in the search box, click "For other uses, see Sweet (disambiguation)", and then Sweet (band).

2) Write "Sweet" in the search box but instead of pressing enter, click on Sweet (band) in the dropdown box below the search box.

3) Write "Sweet" in the search box but instead of pressing enter, click on "containing... Sweet" at the bottom of the dropdown box, and then click on Sweet (band) in the search results.

PrimeHunter (talk) 03:49, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And (giving my age away), I recall that they were often referred to as The Sweet - which links straight to our platform-booted, dayglow-catsuited longhaired friends... AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:53, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry you had difficulty finding the Help Desk. If you have some suggestions to make it easier, please start a discussion at Talk:Help desk. --ColinFine (talk) 14:25, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia policies/rules/regulations

With Wikipedia:Ignore all rules claiming that there are rules and it stating elsewhere that there arent any rules, its confusing. A simpler way would be to have only 3 rules:

If a policy prevents you from improving/maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it. Like WP:IAR, but changed to Wikipedia:Ignore all policies.
Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point.
Wikipedia is for the readers, not the editors.

mysterytrey (talk) 04:08, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Policies are rules. Otherwise, the only rules I follow are WP:IAR and WP:DBAD. Everything else is a derivative of those two. --Jayron32 04:18, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Does Wikipedia give money for article

I want to know whether wikipedia gives money for article posting by users ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.190.228.38 (talk) 04:15, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No. --Jayron32 04:17, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For more information, please see WP:VOLUNTEER.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:24, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Chandler

Jeff Chandler - Personal Info - Esther Williams stated in her biography that he was a cross dresser. She later recanted this statement and said she did it to sell books. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.208.247 (talk) 08:38, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Has the recantation been published anywhere? -- John of Reading (talk) 09:36, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing common errors

Resolved

Hi. I'm aware that AutoWikiBrowser/General fixes cleverly fixes common MOS-related errors.

I also imagine individual editors use AWB to fix their 'pet hates'.

But is there a place - similar to AutoWikiBrowser/General fixes - where one could add fixes to common grammatical faults, such that one can let AWB fix the errors as it goes, without further intervention by an individual editor? Thanks, Trafford09 (talk) 09:18, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AWB users can fix many typos and a few grammar errors by turning on a typo-fixing option which is configured at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos. You can make suggestions at the talk page. You can also add to the list at Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/Grammar and Misc.

AWB users are required to check the proposed spelling fixes before saving; typo and grammar fixing is too subtle to be done blindly. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:29, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the helpful reply. Over & out for this page. Trafford09 (talk) 06:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moving section

How do you move a section and ensure that it's copyright status is okay? If I recall correctly you can't just copy/paste but more is required. I would like to move the Sea_turtle#Cladogram section into the article Cheloniidae whre it makes logical sense too be. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 13:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct, you must provide proper attribution when copying material from one article to another. Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Proper attribution contains an explanation on how to do this. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:43, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) What you are doing is a merge of content from one article to another. See Help:Merging. The important part is that anyone looking at the page histories be able to follow where the content was merged to in the former, and merged from in the latter. So, upon you removal from Sea turtle, your edit summary should state what you are doing with a wikilink to the merge target, e.g., Removed section on Cladogram; merging to [[Cheloniidae]] where I think it is a better fit and when you add the section to Cheloniidae, Merged content on Cladogram from [[Sea turtle]]. Looking at Toshio's response above and rereading your question, I'm not clear whether you are removing the content or just copying it across, but you'll see it's the same in essence: noting where the content came from with a link so that there's clear attribution.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:47, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Web services

I've run into several listings in the DFW are for web design.

One was in Manila, the other in Illinois.

The "Don't Pay Me Anything Unless You Like It" demanded $500 up-front. His work justified that. Problem is, it wasn't his work.

Consider a caution at the top of the section, "WARNING: those offering services may not be local, investigate references thoroughly."

Thanks!

I guess "DFW are" means the Dallas–Fort Worth area. This is a help desk for the encyclopedia Wikipedia. Are you referring to a Wikipedia page? Please give a link to it. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion for Simplification

It would be nice if every wikipedia article had a section at the beginning which would give a short one or two sentence description of the definition of a complex thing in very simplistic language. So simple that even a complete novice could have some general idea what the object or thing being defined was. For example this article defines UEFI:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface

Perhaps a note at the top that said "This is a piece of hardware that allows a computer's operating system to talk to the rest of the computer's hardware.

86.174.58.17 (talk) 15:41, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notice that some of the words in that first sentence are blue links to other Wikipedia articles. If a particular reader doesn't understand what the terms mean, a click or two will jump to the page where it is defined. If you register an account you can enable navigation popups in your preferences; with that turned on you will be able to see the first sentence of each linked article just by hovering over the blue link.

That said, there are doubtless many articles here where the first sentences don't give a good introduction. If you find examples, you would be welcome to improve them yourself or to tag them with {{Context}} so that other editors are made aware of the problem. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:33, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maren Jensen Page

Regarding Maren Jensen

I represent Maren Jensen for over 30 years now. She did not pose for Playboy Magazine or ever shoot a possible story or photos for Playboy. Whomever has added this entry is marketing for Playboy or has malicious intent. Please remove this content otherwise legal action will be sought pursued toward the author of the content.

Thank you, Tom Hahn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toptom27 (talk • contribs) 17:04, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the sentence, as it was unsourced. Looking into the article history, there was a source cited for this at one time, but I doubt very much that it could be considered in any way 'reliable'. If you represent Jensen, you should probably read WP:COI before making any edits to the article yourself, though removal of unsourced negative content like this is probably acceptable. We cannot of cours prevent you taking legal action, but I suggest that you read WP:NLT too. If you need to raise such matters again, our Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard is probably a better place to do so - it is likely to get dealt with more quickly. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:21, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, looking at the 'source' cited, it referenced Wikipedia in turn, so obviously wasn't the originator of this rumour. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:29, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The unsourced claims were originally added by a user only identified by their IP address. Thank you for notifying us of the problem. Wikipedia:No legal threats is a policy against making legal threats in public at Wikipedia. Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject) has a mail address you can use if you want to express legal concerns. The page says: "If you have specific legal concerns about the article, then please put Legal concerns in the subject line. Please note that this may delay response, as we may have to involve legal staff." But mails with legal threats are not required to get vandalism about living people removed. I will watch the article to check the vandalism isn't readded. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:37, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What edit summary should I use here?

I want to undo this addition. I wouldn't call it vandalism, but what should I then use for the edit summary? --Mortense (talk) 21:40, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just specify why you remove something so that other users understand it. In this case one example edit summary might be "remove as unsourced", since negative information about a living person has to be sourced. Regards So Why 21:53, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What is the right place for this RFC?

RFC bot just added a discussion I started to Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Media, the arts, and architecture. I am not sure however if that is the right place for the discussion. Can someone take a look and is there perhaps a more appropriate place for this RFC? Would Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia policies and guidelines be more appropriate? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 23:08, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think so yeah, I don't see anything related to entertainment in it. It might even be better to just post this as a normal discussion in Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)‎.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 22:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rating Web Pages

Why doesn't the ratings section on the bottom of the page show other choices other than: Trustworthy, Objective, Complete and Well-written? Why isn't there choice like completely wrong, and other choices the show the ignorance of what was written. A prime example of this is the page titled: "Antisemitism and the New Testament", whoever wrote this propaganda had to have been deliberately trying to deceive people. It is written like Matthew, Mark and all the others were writing things against the Jewish people which is not anywhere near the truth. The anti-semitism in areas where the words that the Apostles wrote was changed at later dates to cause justification of anti-semitism, the only ones at the times they were changed were the only ones that was actually in "control" of the New Covenant books which was the catholic church (which is beside this point).

Also: "Thus, the term "Jews" in the Gospel represents those who deny the resurrection and believe that the disciples stole Jesus's corpse". This is a statement that only an anti-semite would make up. The term "Jews" solely indicated that the "Jewish" people that were left in the land of Israel were from the tribe of Judah. This is the ONLY recognized description of the term "Jews". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.199.59.86 (talk) 23:36, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments on the neutrality of an article are resolved elsewhere. The Article Feedback Tool is a statistical quality assessment feature of all articles in Wikipedia and is not intended for that usage. Please try posting on the talk page of the article or the Interfaith work group of Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion in which the article falls under.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:59, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article feedback tool already provides the options you are asking for. You can use the one/two-star choices to give feedback that the article is not trustworthy, objective, and so on. For example, the first star under "Objective" has the description "Heavily biased". -- John of Reading (talk) 10:51, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Messed up move

Help! I don't know what I did wrong in trying to move Le Mont-Dore to Le Mont-Dore (New Caledonia). There should be two articles, Le Mont-Dore (France) and Le Mont-Dore (New Caledonia). Thanks in advance, Awien (talk) 23:44, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Le Mont-Dore (France) still exists, so your move didn't break anything. Both articles also have hatnotes that clarify the confusion.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:46, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see what you mean now. When moving a page, the old page automatically becomes a redirect to the new page, hence why Le Mont-Dore became a redirect to Le Mont-Dore (New Caledonia) instead of Le Mont-Dore (France). To avoid further confusion, I have turned the former redirect to a disambiguation page.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Much better. Thanks! Awien (talk) 10:56, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the redirect from the talk page and added the WikiProject banner instead. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:03, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

September 11

prevent undo changes

Hy@ all

I have a small question.

I was authorized to delete the reference to RWS from here (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fantastico&action=history) but it seems that someone is always undo these changes. How can we prevent that? Authorization to delete the reference to RWS in written form available if needed.

All the best

-R — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThisIsRobsLife (talk • contribs) 02:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was vandalism. I have removed the entry. Also realize that nothing on Wikipedia relies on 'authorization', especially if it comes from the subject of the article as it constitutes a conflict of interest. Though considerations may apply in case of potentially damaging libelous information.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:39, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and how do we prvent further edits or do we need to review the page all the time in case he changed it again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThisIsRobsLife (talk • contribs) 07:26, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If there is persistent vandalism to a page, it may be reported on WP:AN/V, and if an administrator judges it appropriate, the page may be WP:semi-protected; but otherwise you cannot prevent further edits, as Wikipedia is by policy the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit. --ColinFine (talk) 10:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can't get a caption on a photo

I can't get a caption to show up on the vertical photo at Luna 17. I tried adjusting the width, but that didn't wirk. What am I doing wrong? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 02:20, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You need to include |thumb when you provide a caption. Goodvac (talk) 02:32, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.

Resolved

. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 02:33, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have also rearranged the pictures as the vertical photo on its own caused too much whitespace.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:35, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

LA's Wasted Youth

Hello, My name is Allen Stiritz, and I was the drummer for LA's wasted youth. I live in Germany now and have a family. I visit my family in America at least once a year, and this year(2011) I had an occasion to re-unite with my former band members while viisiting in America, and also played a set at a club in Canoga Park with some members of Bad Religion and Circle One. It was during this time that my Brother decided to look us up on your website. The first thing I noticed was that you listed me as the replacement drummer for someone called "Eric The Viking".I can tell you that this is not the case. I was not only the original drummer for La'S Wasted Youth, I was also in our predescessor band called "The Runs".There never was a person called "Eric the Viking" involved in LA's wasted Youth before the album "Reagans In".

To the best of my recollection I was in a band called The Runs and the members were Dave Mitchell(Singer) Sean Green(Bass Player) Chet Lehrer(Guitarist) and myself Allen Stiritz(drummer). When this band broke up we re-formed as LA'S Wasted Youth with Daniel Spira(Singer), Jeff Long(Bass Player), Chet Lehrer(Guitarist) and myself (as drummer).There was never an "Eric The Viking". We Recorded Reagans In and went back in to the studio to do Get Out of my yard. At which time we essentially broke up. Chet Lehrer, being the only original member to carry on with the LA's wasted Youth name, found several different musicians to complete the studio album Get Out of My yard. Any incarnations of the band after that had nothing to do with me, and even though I know alot about that, I still have no idea whpo this Viking person is. If you need verification you can contact me on facebook. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.24.154 (talk) 03:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was vandalism, done by a user (User:24.10.32.243) with a history of inserting incorrect information into music articles. I have reverted all his changes.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 04:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

registration details

Hello Sir/Madam, my name is nagakumar we stay in hyderabad, andhar pradesh, india.

In my home we planted 2 teak wood trees, so please tell me how we have to do registration for that trees to use it in future times

please send me reply to my mail id my id is (Redacted)

I hope you will be replying me very soon as early as possible — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.242.206.11 (talk) 04:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm afraid we do not know anything about tree registration in India and this Help Desk is specifically for questions related to editing Wikipedia only. Please inquire with the local government in your area instead.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 05:09, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling of Mariners on their shirts.

When did mthe Mariners change the name on their shirts to Marineros?

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Entertainment reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 05:10, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are many Mariners. It appears from Google searching you are referring to the Seattle Mariners. "Marineros" on their shirts apparently started in 2008 [1] and is a yearly salute to Latin American "beisbol." It may only be on the shirts for one match in a year. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Abuse of power among Wikipedia accounts.

I couldn't find a way to report User:Tonywalton for completly deleting the page for the word "Indubitably". At first I thought it was just riddled with mistakes, but he aparently thinks its funny to edit Wikipedia under the influence of alchohol and jokes about it on his user page. This user is obviously not contributing to the site and should suffer a form of penalty. However this brings me back to my original problem and question: How does 1 go about reporting a user? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.111.116.233 (talk) 05:53, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What page was deleted? I've told him you have a complaint but he hasn't edited at all this month. Before you can be answered, we need to know more details, starting with the exact page name. And please read WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. Dougweller (talk) 06:37, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That would be Indubitably, which was deleted by Tonywalton - in December 2006. An it's clear from the context it was a proper deletion. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. ^Avic_ennasis @ 10:41, 12 Elul 5771 / 10:41, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the complete content of the deleted article:

"Adj: Without doubt; to obvious to be doubted. Also the greatest word in the history of the universe. The person who uses this is always right! BOW DOWN TO THEM! Sentence: Dennis is indubitably stupid."

That doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. Our sister project Wiktionary is a dictionary. You can look up wikt:indubitably there. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up, Doug. I've been off-wiki for a while, real life having taken my time, like getting the car fixed, earning a crust (and money to have the car fixed), family birthdays, etc.

Honestly I can't see what case I have to answer here, particularly for an in-process speedy deletion almost 5 years ago. Avic and Primehunter have said what I'd have said anyway; this was a non-article - a dictionary definition already extant on Wiktionary with added silliness and personal attack - it was nominated for speedy deletion by Fuhghettaboutit and was deleted. "End of", as friends of mine were wont to say. I also find it rather bizarre that this thread was started as the only ever contribution by 24.111.116.233. Maybe that's the IP address for someone I've upset more recently by applying a block for vandalism, maybe it's the IP of some sockpuppet from the dim and distant past; I really wouldn't know. In the event of this being a serious question, 24.111, you'll find useful links on reporting vandalism at the top of this page, and specific reports of misuse of administrator tools should be brought here. Tonywalton ^Talk 22:48, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help with a template that I'm not familiar with

I doubt this edit by an anonymous user.[2] But I'm unfamiliar with the Globalize template and so don't know whether it should in fact be reverted. Would be great if someone could take a look. Thanks. TimidGuy (talk) 09:31, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the parameter name back to "2name", so that the message box reads "...with the United States...". With the "2name" parameter disabled by the anonymous edit, the message read "...with USA...", which isn't quite right. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:03, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Church sues SDA Kinship over use of Church name

I am very much interested in your statement that "the Lawsuit was decided in favor of SDA Kinship" in using "Seventh-day Adventist", a trademark registered by the incorporation of General Conference of SDAs.

Can you inform me the federal lawsuit filed by the Adventist Church against SDA Kinship in the U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, California?

Besides, may I see the official verdict of the District Court mentioned above to know religious liberty for an organization like SDA Kinship in the USA.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mungtoh (talk • contribs) 10:09, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Link.

I have found additional material on this here and there's a Chicago Tribune story here for a fee.

If you look at the bottom of http://www.advocate.com/Contact/ you'll see how to get a subscription to their microfilm archives. That would likely allow you to view the story that's used as a reference in the article, here.

If that's not good enough, and you want source material, all federal lawsuit documents that were docketed (that aren't sealed or archived because of age) can be obtained from PACER once you sign up, and it is quite cheap (.08¢ per page): this would be the relevant PACER site to obtain the records, but unfortunately, being from 1987 means it's very likely archived. Nevertheless here's the place to register a PACER account.

Even if archived, you can still get copies of the documents but you will have to get them from the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) (see here). It's quite expensive unless you do it in person and quite a pain in the ass either way. This is rather specialized material but you could try asking if anyone can provide a copy at WP:RX; I wouldn't hold me breath.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:16, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How to edit a Digital SLR page

Yesterday I started editing the EOS 10D page, and it raised a couple of questions:

Is there a template available on how to structure a digital SLR page? For example, on the Canon EOS 40D page, there is a lot of overlap between the infobox and the Features topic. On the 10D page, the Features topic is almost empty, but should I really repeat all the information from the infobox?

In the improvements/changes topic, how much information should I provide? The 10D incorporated a lot of changes, but some were quite small, like the increase of the burst buffer from 8 to 9 images, or the inclusion of a "safety shift" in Av/Tv.

Arumes (talk) 10:39, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry I can't answer your questions but here are some places where you might get some answers. Specific questions about the future of an article should be discussed on the article's talk page, Talk:Canon EOS 10D. The editors that watch that page have a better understanding of the article. The best place to discuss questions about photography articles in general is on the photography wikiproject talk page, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Photography. GB fan please review my editing 11:31, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Non-English question

gamarjobat,mogmartavt didi txovnit hesaclebelia parmakologiaze meti inpormacia momacodot? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.49.17.132 (talk) 10:51, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, this is the Help desk for the English-language Wikipedia. Your IP address tells me you are from Georgia, so perhaps you should try the Georgian Wikipedia, http://ka.wikipedia.org

(Google translation) უკაცრავად, ეს არის დახმარება, რომელიც ინგლისურენოვანი ვიკიპედია. თქვენი IP მისამართი მეუბნება თქვენ საქართველოს, ისე ალბათ თქვენ უნდა ვეცადოთ საქართველოს ვიკიპედია http://ka.wikipedia.org

-- John of Reading (talk) 11:14, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2 questions

1. Why is there an AfD on this page?

2. Which is quicker, Help Desk, or {{helpme|Your text here}} on user page? --213.107.74.132 (talk) 12:11, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1. Because an editor felt the article should be deleted and they nominated it for deletion. An AFD runs for 7 days, that AFD was started on 8 September so it should be closed on 15 September. Right now the discussion is looking like it will be kept.

2. Who knows, one time this might be quicker if someone is currently watching it at other times the helpme template might be quicker. It all depends on the question and who is available at the time. GB fan please review my editing 12:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1. Because an editor felt the article should be deleted and they nominated it for deletion. An AFD runs for 7 days, that AFD was started on 8 September so it should be closed on 15 September. Right now the discussion is looking like it will be kept.

Does that statement mean the AFD will be kept, or the ARTICLE will be kept? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.107.74.132 (talk) 12:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion looks like the article will be kept. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Using Wikipedia as a word processor - or how to teach MS Word to work like Wikipedia

I wish I could write all my documents on WP. I am currently a university student and when I write assignments using MS Word I constantly have to remind myself "Three equal signs don't make a subheading here!" and even more I wish I could use WP's cite templates. I really miss the convenience of having a Table of Contents and Refrences section created by Wikimagic! Short of downloading and installing Wikimedia on my notebook (I'm not a software expert), is there a way I can use Wikipedia as my word processor? Roger (talk) 13:33, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know of anyway possible, but I would like it. Ask an experienced mediaWiki programmer. ~~Ebe123~~ (+) ^talk
_Contribs 13:44, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be ok if I used a Sandbox page under my user page for non-Wikipedia purposes? If it isn't against the rules I could write my assignments and other texts there then use the "Download as PDF" function to create my documents. Roger (talk) 16:40, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can I get some attention here please. Roger (talk) 19:12, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Be patient, its only been a few hours. I personally would say thats its not appropriate for you to use your sandbox for non-wikipedia purposes, wikipedia is not a webhost, I'm not sure how it works but you could try downloading the MediaWiki software, or perhaps ask the folks over at WP:VPT if they know of anything that could help--Jac16888 ^Talk 19:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If this does not plausibly lead to improvement of wikipedia as an encyclopedia, the answer is a pretty clear "no, this use of userspace is against the rules." A WP:USERPAGE is for experimentation, but ultimately only for WP-centric work, not to use our resources as a free cloud-computer/webhost for unrelated projects. You may also run into problems of academic integrity, since the instant you post it here, you are allowing anyone else to use it for any purpose. Teachers often forbid that type of sharing and reuse of tasks written for an academic assignment. DMacks (talk) 19:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are plenty of Wikipedians who have their own "personal wikis" on other wiki-hosting sites which run MediaWiki. This shouldn't be difficult to find. Importing the citation templates, if you need them, would mean complete functionality. sonia♫ 21:14, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MS Word can automatically create and format a table of contents, provided you define the section headers as such. A Google search for "ms word table of contents" throws up a number of guides. I'm also looking for a reference formatting tool (short of coughing up for Endnote) though, so I can't help there. Brammers (talk/c) 17:36, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We have articles about a bunch of free alternatives to EndNote in Category:Free reference management software. DMacks (talk) 18:36, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic, thank you! Brammers (talk/c) 18:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Problems accessing Wikipedia with Blackberry

As of Saturday 10-SEP-2011, I am getting major problems on my Blackberry accessing Wikipedia. This has not ever occurred before. One page that did barely come up with the Neutron Star article but much of it was missing and this very strange "Wikipedia Beta" logo was on the upper left that does not seem to appear when accessing Wikipedia using IE on a PC

(Redacted) Volleyballjerry (talk) 13:40, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That would be for WP:Village Pump (technical) ~~Ebe123~~ (+) ^talk
_Contribs 13:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now mislabeled as a stub: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watson_Institute

This page has recently been significantly updated (and not for the first time) by the organization's communications director: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watson_Institute

Could you please remove the label you have affixed at the top of the page ["This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding reliable references. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (June 2008)]" or explain what I need to do?

Thanks for your work, always a fan. Karen Kplynchpk (talk) 14:20, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You may remove the tag, but okay. ~~Ebe123~~ (+) ^talk
_Contribs 14:36, 11 September 2011 (UTC) It was already done. ~~Ebe123~~ (+) ^talk[reply]
_Contribs 14:37, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article in its current form has been filled with shameless promotional garbage and spamlinks. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not unusually, the editor is not aware that they cannot just copy and paste material from their website without sorting out the copyright issues, even though it is their website. I've reverted to the pre-COI version because of the copyvio (and removed a full list of faculty as inappropriate). Dougweller (talk) 16:29, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've also tried to post some helpful advice on the editor's talk page. Dougweller (talk) 16:37, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I revived the faculty section from prior to Kplynchpk's edits (was blue wikilinks not full directory of extlinks). No objection to removing it (or making it prose and highlighting their wider notability along with (or instead of) their Brown-centric roles), but may as well start that discussion from something viable at least. DMacks (talk) 16:41, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References - Ossett Wikipedia

Can you help please?

I've tried already to correct an incorrect lin to my Ossett history web page which is INCORRECT in the Ossett wikipedia listing.

It is now: www.ossett.net

I somehow managed to correct it some time ago, but I see it is now reverted to the old incorrect larkshill.org.uk web page which doesn't exist.

Could someone in authority correct this please? I am the author of the web site so I think I'm qualified.

Sorry, but these days I can't follow how to do things in Wikipedia - it is just too complicated and too controversial to add anything so I don't any more.

I tried to find how to amend or alter the REFLIST which is hidden from normal edits but gave up in the end as I couldn't find out how to make the change. Having struggled through this once before in an effort to maintain accuracy, I simply gave up today. Life is just too short and if Wikipedia wish to publicise out-of-date links that's not my problem.

Also the entry for Ben Levene in Ossett People is total garbage and has been there for years. Whoever put this stupid entry there must be laughing. I'm surprised that it hasn't been flagged for inaccuracy.

Sadly, it is things like this that spoil Wikipedia, which I find a useful if unreliable source.

Thanks

Steve W.

80.177.215.10 (talk) 14:28, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not "someone in authority" here, but I have made both the corrections you've suggested. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:11, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding Limit containing exponential function

Is e¹×e^{[(-x÷2)+(x²÷3)+...]}=e[1-(x÷2)+(x²÷3)+...]; where 'e' is the exponential function? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smprince055 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do your own homework.
Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here not to do people's homework for them, but merely to aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.
If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia. Singularity42 (talk) 15:12, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, plus, this is the Help desk, for asking questions about using Wikipedia itself. This sort of question would be better asked at WP:Reference desk/Mathematics. But please do your own work. Rcsprinter (talk) 17:11, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wizard broken? (Creating a new article)

When I try to use the following link, after having gone through the wizard process...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard/Ready_for_submission

...when I tap on 'Create new article' or 'Create submission for review', it just drops me off in la-la land ("you forgot to enter a name"...when there was no such prior opportunity).

A little help?

--FormerNukeSubmariner (talk) 15:53, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

More specifically, the error called out is: "You forgot to type the name of your article into the text box on the previous page!".

Again...there was no such text box on the previous page.

Thanks in advance.

--FormerNukeSubmariner (talk) 16:02, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind -- I see the text box now. (It's outline is very thin.)

--FormerNukeSubmariner (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why I cannot hear pronunciation - How to set laptop speakers to hear pronunciation

Dear WikiPedia Specialists,

When I click on the speaker icon, I cannot hear pronunciation of the word I am interested in.

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium on an HP laptop. My speaker is set to the highest volume, and I can clearly hear Windows "bongs" as well as have audio sessions in, eg Skype, MSN....

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.174.60.101 (talk) 17:31, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A speaker symbol like at Muammar Gaddafi can both indicate audio (the first speaker) and a written pronunciation (the second speaker). Some articles will only have one of them. For audio you should either hear sound (with the proper software and hardware) or be taken to a file page like File:Ar-Muammar al-Qaddafi.ogg where you can play the sound. See Wikipedia:Media help. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:49, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My new article is using my username as it's title rather than the subject I choose.

I wrote my first article and it has my username "User:Bridpart2000" as the title of the piece (and what you have to search in google) rather then the subject of the article. It will not let me change this when I click edit. How do I make the title the one I want? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bridpart2000 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The title of a page cannot be edited. You would have to WP:MOVE it to a new location. DMacks (talk) 19:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You should have created a subpage for writing your draft - see WP:Sandbox - instead you have written it on your main userpage ~~which cannot be moved.~~ Roger (talk) 19:07, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dodger you're wrong, the userpage can still be moved, however Bridpart I would recommend you not do so unless you are able to find and add some reliable 3rd party references it is liable to be deleted as a unsourced biography--Jac16888 ^Talk 19:10, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the userpage content here so it can be worked on from that page instead of Bridpart's main userpage. ArcAngel (talk) ) 19:15, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for your help! I've been adding the references like you suggested - still got quite a lot to go. When I've finished it all, how do I get the title of the page changed and get it live? (thanks!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bridpart2000 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can find instructions at WP:MOVE, but please be aware that you need to find more sources to satisfy WP:GNG and/or WP:ENT. All 3 sources currently used just mention the actress in passing, and are not enough to establish notability.

Also, I have just moved the page to User:Bridpart2000/Sarah Bedi, as the previous move was moved to a name with a \ slash, rather than an actual subpage. Яehevkor ✉ 22:49, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help! yes, I definitely will add more sources, but there in books that I need to go through so I'll get them tomorrow! Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bridpart2000 (talk • contribs) 23:00, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Offensive wiki page feedback

when you look up "sympathy" there is an obscene reference which does not relate to the subject matter and uses the "f" word. Please remove ASAP.

Thanks

Melissa — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.150.185.190 (talk) 18:50, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reporting this. I reverted the edit. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't get a list of people

ask for help-don't get a list of people just a blank page-I'm on farmville — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.7.53.219 (talk) 21:59, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you be more specific about your problem? If it involves a specific page then please give a link. This is the help desk for the encyclopedia Wikipedia with millions of articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FarmVille is some sort of computer game. I suggest that the inquirer ask at WP:Reference desk/Entertainment or perhaps WP:Reference desk/Computing. Deor (talk) 22:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Need help with deleting an image

I uploaded File:Tondo.jpg some weeks ago under a fair use claim, not knowing of any free images of this sadly deceased cyclist. Having now found one, the fair use image should be removed from Wikipedia, but I'm not really sure of the fastest way to do that. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 22:29, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Only administrators have the power to delete articles and images. You may contact one and ask them to delete it for you, or you way wish to tag the image with a speedy deletion tag under criterion G7 (author requests deletion), or you may also file a request at WP:Files for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Interchangeable (talk • contribs) 22:46, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted it as WP:CSD#F5 (unused nonfree). DMacks (talk) 01:19, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, I have created and uploaded a cropped version of the Commons image (File:Xavier-Tondo (cropped).jpg) and used it in the ibox. – ukexpat (talk) 15:52, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sources in other languages

Which is the best way of citing URL sources in other languages in the English language Wikipedia? Providing the original link, or an autotranslated link? E.g. http://www.br-online.de/ OR http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.br-online.de/&ei=vkVtTrDzMMuQswaA16XJBA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBgQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbayerischer%2Brundfunk%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1074%26bih%3D659%26prmd%3Dimvns ?

Nepomuk 3 (talk) 23:37, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You should provide the original link. Let others decide how they want to read it, either in the original language or use a machine translation. GB fan please review my editing 23:40, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the assistance! Nepomuk 3 (talk) 23:46, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

September 12

New section tab missing

The New section tab is missing from this page (for me, at least). If I go to edit history, the tab pops up, but I can't get it to appear on the Talk page itself.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:34, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The problem should be fixed now. The page had an archive template on it that I removed, since it shouldn't have been there in the first place. It must have been interfering with the "new section" tab. --Slon02 (talk) 01:10, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Right. {{Talk archive navigation}} contains the magic word __NONEWSECTIONLINK__. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:21, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's a rare day that I come to this forum and don't get an answer to my question. Absolutely wonderful. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:03, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BOOK Creation & Usage

Started a book, added several pages, edited it on the book edit page (changed order, etc.), but book was only preserved over log out / log in for the first page / chapter created; lost all updates.

Book block also did not display at top of pages when logging back in after having logged out with active books for my account. Had to start book creator all over again, and it then started a whole new book, instead of adding the page I was on to my current book.

Book feature seems very hard to use. When a user logs in, they should be able to go to their account page (by clicking on their user name at top of pages) and thereon have links to their book(s).

In this whole process, I did finally get a popup dialog box asking me if I wanted to delete current books and start all over, or continue with current book -- I selected continue with current book, but it started a new one anyhow.

Finally got to my first book, but as said in first parragraph, most of the updates via the edit page were gone.

K0dpw (talk) 03:38, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Only autoconfirmed users can save books. Your account became autoconfirmed around 11 hours ago and I see you have saved User:K0dpw/Books/SCIENCE since then. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:47, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Update company title

Hi,

The article you have for Sanitarium Health Food Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanitarium_Health_Food_Company) should now be called Sanitarium Health & Wellbeing Company

The company rebranded about a year ago. Check mailing address and new logo for verification https://www.sanitarium.co.nz/contact-us — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mromicron (talk • contribs) 06:10, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to Sanitarium Health and Wellbeing Company. Dismas|^(talk) 06:59, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is FRUCKING an offensive word in the English language

Hi Just trying to find out if FRUCKING is an offensive word. i have googled, checked with Oxford English dictionary and Wikipedia but it comes up as an unknown word. i know it has a SIMILAR word which is offensive but is this FRUCKING offensive officially. Please respond as soon as possible please thanks everyone — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.232.180 (talk) 06:37, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on the person. Anyone can be offended by anything. I just noticed we have an article on 'Feck'. BTW, you should ask your question here: Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 06:46, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't a real word at all - it is just a deliberate euphemistic misspelling of "fucking", which is generally considered to be offensive. See Fuck. Roger (talk) 07:00, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BTW This topic should be on the Language Reference Desk. Roger (talk) 07:02, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

limitation of sales management

list the limitation of sales management: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.244.183.241 (talk) 07:09, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is the help desk for questions about using Wikipedia, so your question is not appropriate here. It might be appropriate at the Reference Desk, except that it appears to be a homework question, and we do not answer those. Reading Sales management may help you get started. --ColinFine (talk) 07:18, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

HELP ME QUICK!

How can I stop This page from being deleted?
Did the change the way helpme works? before, you used to put {{helpme|question here}}\? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.107.74.132 (talk) 10:21, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For 1, The page is going to stay, since its only keep votes.

For 2, no we have not. Here is just another place for wikipedia related questions.

~~Ebe123~~ (+) ^talk
_Contribs 09:41, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have uploaded an image, but it won't appear on the article!

recently I have tried to edit a page, and I wanted to add an image. There are no copy-write infringements, and I successfully uploaded the image onto wikipedia. However, when trying to incorporate it into the article I am editing, It just won't appear?!? I have no idea why, I typed everything it says I am supposed to! what should I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cronnyberg (talk • contribs) 11:28, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You need to remind yourself of the formal of the code for a gallery, see WP:GALLERY. Also the gallery shouldn't be at the head of the article. You probably also should read WP:IG. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:40, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Acoustics and human rights

Modulated acoustic carriers hide the transducer location but the modulation can still be heard. Unreported usage of this technology in various countries (including New Zealand) for many years in gross violation of human rights. Detectors unavailable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.89.184.128 (talk) 11:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am sorry if this is a misunderstanding, but this is the Help desk for the English Wikipedia and its purpose is to deal with questions regarding how to use or edit Wikipedia. We do have a reference desk, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. You can simply CLICK HERE, choose the right place for your question and ask away. Best. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:15, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help with images

Dear Wiki Administrators,

On behalf of the ICMPD, I added the following 2 images to the ICMPD Wikipedia article:

• ICMPD Organisational structure.jpg • File:ICMPD_member_states_2011.jpg

Both of these were deleted with the reason given that they violated copyright laws. However, these 2 images are owned by the ICMPD and thus, there is no copyright violoation. ICMPD would appreciate it if these were not deleted again from the ICMPD article. All other international organizations like the UN, IAEA, etc. have such images in their Wikipedia articles as well.

Best regards,

Amy Nichols Communications Consultant ICMPD — Preceding unsigned comment added by Comm Department (talk • contribs) 12:43, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are links provided on the article page to tell you how to address copyright problems, and also see WP:CP. You also need to read WP:COI, if you are editing a page connected with an organisation for which you work, and WP:CORPNAME as you have a user name representing a department, rather than an individual. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:50, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The intellectual property in question belongs to the organization that published it. It has not released any of its property, and you, as a communications consultant, have no apparent authority to make decisions about ICMPD's property. At any rate, you claimed authorship, which is likely false; even if you had authored the images yourself, it doesn't seem you have any rights in them. Plus, your organization is not notable, and that some other actually notable groups have logos is irrelevant. If it's notable enough to be included, someone without a giant conflict will do the publishing. JFHJr (㊟) 13:47, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arumuga Navalar wiki violates academic honesty and suppresses facts

MAdam/sir

you are displaying hindu nationalist propaganda in Sri Lanka which is oppressive to the Christians who are already marginalized in Sri Lanka by the Hindus and Budhists. Everytime ascholarcorrects your biased, fiction article on Arumuga Navalar it is immediately deleted.As aresult my students and even Internationalscholars repeat the propaganda without studying the actual sources from the 19th centurey which are also available atJaffna College,CentralCollegeandChurchArchivesinEnglandandtheUS> Please help.This is tarnishing wiki'scredibility amongSriLankanChristians.

Urgrnt action needed please

Sincerely Dr.Dushyanthi Hoole

You say encyclopedia contents must be verifiable without apparently meaning it or double checking sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.80.36.155 (talk) 14:16, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see you are referring to this article. Please note that any material added to the article must be reliably sourced- Wikipedia does not accept original research. TNXMan 14:23, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can discuss this with other contributors on the article's talk page. They are probably more knowledgeable on the subject than I am, and I get the impression they are familiar with the relevant Wikipedia guidelines and policies which help build this encyclopedia. Astronaut (talk) 16:05, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a consonant sound file

I recorded the pronunciation of a certain consonant (Voiceless labiodental plosive) and uploaded the file to Commons I know that the consonant's page should somehow automatically detect the sound file and add it to the infobox, but it doesn't, so obviously I did something wrong. TFighterPilot (talk) 15:28, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, it was just that the software wasn't clever enough to realise that the article needed to be re-cached. I have purged the page and the sound file is now showing for me. You may also need to bypass your browser cache to see the change. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:34, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ho, thanks. It does show now. :D TFighterPilot (talk) 15:50, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

However, it still doesn't show in consonant TFighterPilot (talk) 15:53, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've purged that page too. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:00, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of buses

Anyone want to edit List of buses?--213.107.74.132 (talk) 15:59, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The inuse has been rm, so you may edit. Why has it still got an Afd? Help! I'm worried it will go! --213.107.74.132 (talk) 15:59, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AFDs run for 7 days. This one has been listed for 4 days. You don't need to worry about it. At this point it would take quite a few editors coming in with solid policy reasons to have the decision end up as delete. I do not think that is going to happen. GB fan 16:07, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you keep repeatedly asking the same question and ignoring the answers, your edits may be regarded as disruptive and you are liable to be blocked from editing. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:08, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you are talking about the question, "Anyone want to edit List of buses?" in your edit summary about no one answering your first question, my answer is No I do not want to edit it. GB fan 16:33, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vanessa_Grant article link error

hello

I am the Vanessa Grant written about on the Vanessa_Grant topic. I have altered the website address in the article's content (below the biography section). However, I can't find a way to change the website given in the summary box that appears on the upper right of the page. The website showing there (vgrant.com) is not correct. This should be changed to http://vanessagrant.com. You can verify that this is the correct web address by going to the vanessagrant.com address and seeing that the books listed there are the same ones listed under the wiki article.

Thank you for your assistance in correcting this error

Vanessa Grant — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanessagrant (talk • contribs) 16:04, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. I'll also leave you a note on your talk page explaining some of our rules and guidelines. TNXMan 16:06, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple Issues

The Wikipedia page about the "Las Vegas Redevelopment Agency" was flagged at the top of the page with a box reading: "This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page." I believe most of the problems have been handled now. How do you go about having that "warning" box removed from the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Junevivalasvegas (talk • contribs) 16:15, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove this at the top of the article:{{Multiple issues|wikify =October 2010|orphan =October 2010}} Hope it helps.--213.107.74.132 (talk) 16:40, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead an removed the references needed and I added so wikilinks to help with wikify, so hopefully someone else will remove that issue. I think that the orphan status still applies. I only see one normal page that links there...Naraht (talk) 16:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Internet

How do I get my Wikipedia aticle published to the Internet?? To be viewed on the Internet??? I can not find any help or direction to do this. How do I format the page to look like the other articles on the WEB??? Or do you do this through your reveiw process?? I wish to type in the name of my article on the search engine and want to see it come up under the Wikipedia info. How is this ALL done. Very, Very frustrated!!!!! Old Nevada — Preceding unsigned comment added by Old nevada (talk • contribs) 16:27, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Answer: If you wait a few days, it will be on search engines.--213.107.74.132 (talk) 16:43, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have not moved the article you created in your userspace to the main article space. Only articles in the main space will be picked up by search engines. The page you have created still needs work. You should read our information on notability (which is required for articles) and reliable sourcing. TNXMan 16:48, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)The correct answer is that you haven't yet produced an article. All you had done is add content to your user page. I have moved that to a subpage in your user space. You will need to read WP:SYMUD, but also WP:1st, and various links from those. The article needs a lot of improvement before moving to mainspace. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:56, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

View History

It's not working. Anyone know why?--213.107.74.132 (talk) 16:37, 12 September 2011 (UTC) Edit: It's fine now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.107.74.132 (talk) 16:39, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I guess there were some issues with the servers but as you say, it seems to be fixed now. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:53, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Digi Rhymes

Dear sir / Madam I posted an articles on wikipedia.org. it is a genre called Digi Rhymes. I created this genre and I want people to know about it. why it has been deleted while it is an important genre as well such as others. Thank You Dude — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thehoax123 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly read our Notability guideline to understand what kind of information can be included on Wikipedia. Please also read OR to understand why you should not include your personally created material. Thanks. Wifione ^Message 18:07, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How Do Subpages Work

A subpage (I think it was a subpage) that I created recently called User:Dolphinholme test was deleted 'speedily'. Why was this? Are the subpages I create viewable by everyone and if so, do they need to go through my user page to see it? The reason I ask this is that obviously I don't want my ungrammatical testing of stuff to appear in the search engine. Can I create individual subpages to test out different articles I am thinking of writing (e.g. Dolphinholme, a small village in NW England) or should that be done in my Sandbox? Thanks. Paddy1066 (talk) 18:31, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was an error in syntax. To create the subpage, it needs to be located at User:Paddy1066/SUBPAGE with the word subpage replaced by whatever you want it to be. The two attempts you made at creating the subpage were located in the wrong namespaces. I will restore the last of these and move it to the proper location. Gimme a sec. --Jayron32 18:38, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your work has been restored and moved to the proper location, which is User:Paddy1066/Dolphineholme test. Good luck! --Jayron32 18:43, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Paddy1066 (talk) 18:48, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Everybody can see any saved page which hasn't been deleted, but if you place {{NOINDEX}} on a userspace page then it will not be indexed by Google and other search engines respecting the noindex tag. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:32, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User stats

How do I locate that tool with my edit stats? I had it bookmarked but deleted it by mistake. Thanks. Malke 2010 (talk) 19:08, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are several. See Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters. The bottom of Special:Contributions/Malke 2010 has a link on "Edit count" to http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/count/index.php?name=Malke+2010&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:26, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a bunch. Malke 2010 (talk) 22:17, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cabnt find the extreme music article where is it?

i have searched the internet but i dont have found the article that was abouut extreme music. there were been extreme music genres and the descriptions of it. is this article deletet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saludacymbals (talk • contribs) 21:11, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Extreme music redirects to Extreme metal. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:15, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing information released under a UK Freedom Of Information act request.

Hi, I've recently had an MoD FOI request answered. I like to reference the information in an article. I have a few questions:

How? Do the MoD host their answered requests on a website? If not, how would I reference this?
Some photos have also been released, does Wikipedia still treat these as UK crown copyright.

If possible I'd like to communicate via e-mail please. Thankyou for your time. Ryan4314 (talk) 22:47, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unless it's been published on a publicly-accessible website, you can't use it; in other words, an e-mail sent to you will not suffice, nor will a URL to which only you have the key. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:23, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Answering the second point, MoD photos are Crown Copyright. If they are over 50 years old (i.e pre-1961) then they are now "Crown Copyright expired" images. Effectively PD but attribution is requested and should be given. Images from 1961 onwards are not in the PD, but may possibly be used under fair use rule with the appropriate templates/rationales for such use. Mjroots (talk) 06:23, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so if MoD host FOI request response, I can cite that in a an article yes? Ryan4314 (talk) 17:08, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please Add

Could you please add marcia wallace to the Celebrity guests on the brady bunch page as she was a guest as Marcia's teacher, mrs Robbins and and appearance in where Jan buys a black wig.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.44.7 (talk) 23:52, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't heard of Marcia Wallace before. Her appearance in episode 40 and 61 is mentioned in List of The Brady Bunch episodes where she is called "Guest star", but not "Special guest star". I don't know whether she qualifies for The Brady Bunch#Celebrity guests which appears to follow "Special guest star" quite closely. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:25, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

September 13

Porn picture hacked into 911 article DISGUSTING!!!

Resolved

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks

Please remove immediately!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.242.71.71 (talk) 00:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seems it's a problem at Commons... —Jeremy v^_^v ^{Components:V S M} 00:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We need a Commons admin to quickly block commons:User:Trowbridge tim — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 00:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed up and responsible user's been blocked. —Jeremy v^_^v ^{Components:V S M} 00:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

9/11 attacks page

Can someone please change the picture that was posted on the September 11 attacks page!! Some one has defaced it with a pornographic image and I have edited enough pages to have access to edit protected pages...please help!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlymaha (talk • contribs) 00:13, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See above thread. The vandal has been blocked at Commons. Singularity42 (talk) 00:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for three days, gotta AGF! Johnuniq (talk) 00:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Account was subsequently globally locked. Being unblocked means nothing if your account's locked. —Jeremy v^_^v ^{Components:V S M} 00:20, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contributing Information Learned From TV

I just watched a program on one of the cooking channels on cable. During the show they took a few seconds to show the spelling, definition, explanation and an example of a food related item. I found this same term on Wikipedia...the entry was described as a "stub" and was missing several points of interest mentioned in the TV program. Therefore, I want add my paraphrased version of what I learned from the program to the Wikipedia listing. Would I be violating the show's copyright or any other law by contributing this information? Thanks for your help! Annexia2 (talk) 00:46, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The big problem is whether this show is really a reliable source. The secondary problem is citing the specific episode of the show, since "Episode of ThisHereFoodShow broadcast at 2:00 p.m. on September 12, 2011 on MyLocalCable Channel 63" is not a reference adequate for verifiability. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It would be best if you could search and find a more reliable source for the information you want to add. --ColinFine (talk) 07:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If the show has a website you might find the informtion there then use that as a reference. Reliability can then be judged by interested editors. Roger (talk) 07:33, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong picture/logo

Hi The Webjetlogo on their page is wrong. The company updated it this year. The new logo doesn't have the lines of the mouse buttons. See the top left corner of their website for the new version - http://www.webjet.com.au/flights. Wikhelper (talk) 02:51, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done -- John of Reading (talk) 07:33, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ektoise

hi, I have been trying to correct a page that has lies on it. this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ektoise

this band was formed after I was fired from it in 2010, NOT 2007, they have released my intellectual copyright without my credits, as confirmed by APRA. they also ME AS A FORMER MEMBER AND MY OLD BAND PURITY DEVICE AS BEING THEM. THIS IS ALL LIESI was putting FACTUAL INFORMATION regarding the THEFT of MY PROPERTY.And you stopped me. I have no money to sue these people, but I welcome any attempt for them to sue me. I view your PROTECTION of them as ASSISTING IN THIS CRIME, and if I ever do take legal action, I shall be taking it against your CORRUPT WEBSITE as well. YOU PUBLISH LIES.

I am FURIOUS with you. I will be telling everyone wiki is a bunch of LIES.

STEVEN E CAMERON — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buddhifer (talk • contribs) 05:05, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Verifiability beat the truth every time. If there are no reliable sources to back up the above assertation, then it cannot be in the article, even if it is true. Buddhifer has been blocked indefinitely per WP:NLT. Mjroots (talk) 06:17, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry you feel aggrieved. But the problem for Wikipedia is that unless it has been published in reliable sources we have no way of telling whether what you say is true; and in any case we have no way of telling whether you are who you say you are. Wikipedia is not protecting anybody: it is repeating what has already been published by reliable sources (and where it is not, the information should be removed from it). --ColinFine (talk) 07:33, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Village lock-ups

I am interested in expanding the Village lock-up page. I have already managed to edit the page under 'Surviving lock-up locations in England and Wales.' Now I would like to add some specific details of individual lock-ups - please can you tell me how to create a new heading on the page to do this. How do I add a photograph? I am afraid that my computer knowledge is somewhat limited and I need an 'idiots' guide. Thankyou.Royerin 08:51, 13 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Royerin (talk • contribs)

If you edit the whole page using the "Edit" link at the very top, you will see the current section headings "== The heading text ==" each on a line by itself. You can add new sections by keying new lines like these in the places where you want them. The Wikipedia:Cheatsheet may help you. For photos, I'll post some standard advice here. Please feel free to ask again if you get stuck.

If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.Template:Z40 -- John of Reading (talk) 16:52, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Modification to ChemInfo Box

Is it possible to modify the ChemInfo Box Templates for chemical pages so that as well as the CAS# identifier they also include the EC# identifier which through the implimentation of the EU REACH Regulation (1907/2006) are becoming the prefered standard way to difinitively identify a substance in the EU and beyound.

Cheers,

Nik. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.197.58.8 (talk) 09:03, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to the templates in Category:Chembox templates? I think you should discuss such a change at the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry first, as this seems to be a change that would affect a large number of templates. If there is consensus to do this, then I see no problem to request such a change. If you are only talking about Template:Chembox, you can request this at Wikipedia talk:Chemical infobox, as that template is idefinitely protected. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just to bring in more information, there is page on EC number (chemistry)Naraht (talk) 15:03, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Doppelganger account

Resolved

– Request filed. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is another account that I would like to register as a doppelganger account. That account was created in 2007 and has no edits. What is the right venue to request control of that account? WP:USURP seems to be only concerned with renaming of accounts and thus seems to be the wrong place for such a request. I would appreciate any pointers to the right place. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:13, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

USURP is the right place for you to ask to take over an existing account. GB fan 11:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think I am doing something wrong. At WP:USURP I placed {{subst:usurp|Toshio|reason=I want to usurp that account as a [[WP:DOPPELGANGER|doppelganger account]] to avoid possible impersonation.|usurponly=yes}} in the edit box of the new section. In the preview window there appears a red warning message saying

"You have not added a confirmation link! Replace this message with the url that confirms that you hold the SUL for Toshio."

What exact url am I supposed to enter there? I don't get it. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:58, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would

{{subst:usurp|Toshio|reason=I want to usurp that account as a [[WP:DOPPELGANGER|doppelganger account]] to avoid possible impersonation.|link=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AToshio&action=historysubmit&diff=450281509&oldid=105232586|usurponly=yes}}

be sufficient? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:08, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I filed the request (diff). Should be ok now. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tomas J Fleischmann

Tomas J Fleischmann should be listed as Tomas M Fleischmann. It was a typo and need to enquire how to fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.44.178 (talk) 11:15, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a reliable source for that? - David Biddulph (talk) 11:21, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The original author moved the page. GB fan 11:24, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it has been moved, but where is the source for the information? A Google for the string "Tomas M Fleischmann" finds nothing except for this article. If the commonly used name is "Tomas Fleischmann", that is what should be used as the article title. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:52, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We already have a Tomas Fleischmann who appears to be the primary topic. I guess the IP poster is the article creator, knows the subject privately, and perhaps added the initial for disambiguation. If the initial is not commonly used in public (zero Google hits is a very strong indicator of that) then Tomas M Fleischmann should be moved to Tomas Fleischmann (author) and a hatnote can be placed on Tomas Fleischmann. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:14, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

pronunciation

It's not really a question, more of a suggestion really. I use wiki mostly to look up scientific words I read in my textbooks and unless I have heard them in a lecture before I have no idea how to pronunce them, it would be great if we readers could hear the terms we look up in UK and US pronunciation. It would be very helpful, I'm sure a lot of people would use the feature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.200.49.7 (talk) 11:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We are creeping up on 4 million articles. There are many articles that do provide pronunciation but not in comparison to that massive number. See {{Audio}} and various links and other templates mentioned in its documentation (there's also Wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia for audio of entire articles). The thing is that we are a volunteer project, so when something is missing or would be a good addition a person needs to step up and act boldly themselves to make the edits required. To add spoken pronunciation this not only requires inclination and knowledge of the correct pronunciation but that the person have the technical know-how and equipment to do it, which leaves out a large number of editors. Note that our sister project, Wiktionary, provides pronunciation for some words where we do not. Lastly, many articles that do not provide spoken pronunciation do provide International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) notation so that you can learn the pronunciation without it being spoken, if you understand that notation system.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Science

Why does no-one reply at the Science desk? I'm not trying to be rude, but normally it's alot quicker.--213.107.74.132 (talk) 12:42, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We're all volunteers, so we don't get paid to answer as fast as possible. And not all knowledgeable about every topic. Some even edit while at work. So give it some time and you'll get a response. Dismas|^(talk) 12:47, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) It looks to me like your questions at the science desk have been answered by multiple people. If you're talking about your follow-up question about bladders appearing underneath the answers you've already received, that was asked three hours ago which is not long time and it may be harder to spot since it isn't a new question in its own section. More the the point, we are a volunteer project. People answer if they have the inclination and knowledge to do so. It takes the time it takes.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:50, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And follow-up to Horsepower.--213.107.74.132 (talk) 12:53, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help finding bad image (example.jpg) in Lonely Mountain article?

Resolved

About 2/3 of the way down in Lonely Mountain there are numerous example.jpg's in a gallery. I can't find them in the article. I've tried Purge and I've tried looking in the images and portal that are linked in that area? Any ideas?Naraht (talk) 12:46, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Someone had vandalized the {{portal-inline}} template. I've fixed it. Dismas|^(talk) 12:50, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You! I looked at the portal it was linking to, but not the portal-inline template.Naraht (talk) 13:20, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Why on earth do people vandalise pages? What's the point?--213.107.74.132 (talk) 13:13, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the same reason people like to watch David Letterman throw fruit off of buildings.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:21, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) In my opinion there is no easy answer to that question. Vandalism can take many different forms and I think there is a wide spectrum of motivations involved. Some people may simply find it funny, some other might do it out of frustration for an inability to "function" within the Wikipedia community. And other people might cause disruption unintentionally because they do not (yet) understand how Wikipedia is supposed to work. There might be numerous other motivations and these are only a few of them. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:24, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)I don't know about that. I love to watch Letterman throw stuff off buildings but hate vandalism. I think the vandalism thing is one of two things, either the person is a child or they view it as a challenge to see how long they can get the vandalism to stick or how big of an effect that they can have. Dismas|^(talk) 13:25, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:The motivation of a vandal.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:09, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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