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    This page is used for listing requests for history merges or history splitting of pages. For relatively simple cases where history merge is required, the destination page should be tagged with the {{histmerge}} template. This page should be used for requesting very complex merges, merges involving more than two pages, history merges of deleted pages, or when the use of the template is otherwise inadequate or where its usage would cause problems.

    This page was originally for listing cut-and-paste moves which could not be repaired due to a then-extant technical limitation. The limitation has since been removed, but this page is still available if you find a cut-and-paste move, and are not able to repair it yourself (there is a procedure for doing it, but only administrators can do it, and it is a bit tricky!).

    Administrators need to read Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Fixing cut-and-paste moves and Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions.

    The procedure

    • Place a {{histmerge|NAME OF PAGE THE ARTICLE WAS CUT FROM}} template at the new location of the article which has been moved through cut and pasting, i.e. on the article where the pasting was done.
    • If the issue is clear-cut (straight up cut-and-paste move to a better title), having the template on the page should be enough. In more complex cases (explained at Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves), please leave a description of the problem under the "Repair requests" section.
    • An administrator will look over the pages and perform whatever tasks are necessary.
    • Once this is done, the admin may post the result here.

    Repair requests

    Pages tagged with {{histmerge}} are automatically placed in Category:Candidates for history merging.
    Please add new requests to the top of the New Requests section.

    Candidates for history merging – 1 item

    Possible AfC copy-and-paste moves – No backlog currently

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    Completed requests July 2020

    Hi there! I copied the material from Draft:Black Is King and pasted it into Black Is King, as I was not aware of the issue with attribution. I did so because another user wanted to create an article for Black Is King, but at the time Black Is King was a redirect and they did not know how to convert a redirect to an article, and so they created Draft:Black Is King through AfC. I then converted the redirect into an article and copied what was in the draft. There has since been edits made by others to the article. It was then raised to my attention that the histories need to be merged. I hope you can help with this! Thank you :) Bgkc4444 (talk) 00:19, 19 July 2020 (UTC)Bgkc4444
     Done. Primefac (talk) 00:34, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

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    Apologies! I meant to merge Draft:Halo (TV series). The Optimistic One (talk) 23:10, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
    Still no cut/paste page move, and there are still parallel histories. Declined (again). Primefac (talk) 00:10, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

    Rejected requests May 2020

    @Primefac: I’m going to delete User:PhilipTerryGraham/Commercial Crew Program for cleanup, but I don’t want the long and extensive edit history of the page to disappear. Can we make the merge anyways? I honestly don’t see the problem here; what Ill effects would it even have? – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 00:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
    No, but I'll delete it under WP:U1. Primefac (talk) 16:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
    @Primefac: Excuse me? I didn’t ask you to do that. I want my edit history back, please. I don’t understand why you’re giving me such a hard time over this... I’d like to ask @Anthony Appleyard: for some assistance here, and a proper explanation as to why the history merge can’t happen. I just wanted some help, not this... – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 17:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
    History merges are done to preserve attribution. For example, let's say there is an article Example. Editor A copies Example to Draft:Example.
    • In scenario 1, editor A asks editors B and C to help improve the Draft, which after a few dozen edits is copied back to Example by editor A. In this case, the edits made by B and C need to receive proper attribution, so Draft:Example is merged into Example.
    • In scenario 2, editor A works on the Draft for a while, and then copies that finished product back to Example. They have done all of the work themselves, so there is no concern about attribution because (from the perspective of the Article) only one editor has actually changed the content.
    Your request falls under "scenario 2", and thus a histmerge is not necessary. If you do not want to delete the history of User:PhilipTerryGraham/Commercial Crew Program but still want a "clean" editing history, create something like User:PhilipTerryGraham/sandbox or User:PhilipTerryGraham/Commercial Crew Program v2; the name can always be changed if it ends up being moved into the Article space. Primefac (talk) 18:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
    @Primefac: I understand this, I'm moreso asking why it's this way. What are the ill effects of simply merging the original edit history into the mainspace article that prompts a denial of this kind of histmerge request? Hopefully my wording is much clearer now. At the very least, thankfully, I got the edit history back through an undeletion request, so I no longer need assistance in that regard. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 18:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
    @Anthony Appleyard and Primefac: Is there any option for me as a normal editor to be able to transplant the edit history into a mainspace article? Like, would it be acceptable, for example, for me to move User:PhilipTerryGraham/Commercial Crew Program (the page with the complete edit history) to something like Commercial Crew Program v2, then move Commercial Crew Program to Draft:Commercial Crew Program, and then make a technical move request for Commercial Crew Program v2 to be moved to Commercial Crew Program? – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 22:36, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
    That is a waste of both your time and ours. Primefac (talk) 00:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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