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Welcome, Blue Riband!

I'm Riley Huntley, and I noticed that you haven't been welcomed yet, so I thought I'd drop you a note. We do have a lot of users, and are currently working on 6,822,449 articles, so things can be a little intimidating... but don't worry! We love to help out, and we'll try our best to make your stay here as comfortable as possible.
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Thank you for the Welcome Riley! I was already able to contribute to the TS Empire State (VI) article as I had the reference for the right launch date.Blue Riband► 23:17, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
No problem! So sorry for the late reply to this! I have created over 700 accounts for Wikipedia for editors like you to use but only few use them so I am so glad that you are taking advantage of it. If you need any help, give me a shout here. -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 22:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

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I closed it under WP:SK 2b as cited in my NAC statement. The nomination was a bad faith nomination with no reason for deletion except for disruption and edit warring. Both the page creator and the nominator were almost immediately banned after posting the nominations. Under 2b, an AfD cannot stand if the nomination did not have merits under XfD. You can properly nominate the page for a new AfD if you think it should be deleted. Simply asking for a page to be deleted because of another user's state is not a valid nomination. Mkdwtalk 03:42, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
The problem has been resolved. I was going to propose a merge but another editor has since made a re-direct to the main Mary Magdalene article. Blue Riband► 04:35, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

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  • Thank you. I've had the Delaware courts website bookmarked and kept checking it for some decision. As soon as the court order appeared I was able to jump in and update the article. A lot of people care what happens to Sequoia as the page view hits increase dramatically after any update. Hopefully the legal saga has ended and all that remains is the formal transfer of Sequoia's ownership. I don't expect to see any more court action, so the next we might hear of this is if and when the yacht is moved out of storage and transferred to some place for proper restoration. (It seams that just about every news article picked up on the judge's comment about the raccoons.) She's going to need deep pockets as it appears Silversmith had been going broke trying to maintain her. Perhaps in hindsight he's sorry he didn't sell the yacht back to the government in 2004. But given that he lied to the lenders one has to wonder if that offer ever existed.Blue Riband► 04:03, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
@Blue Riband: I’d love to see it returned to government ownership and exclusive presidential use. Coincidentally, I too doubted the alleged 2004 offer. But, then again, Cheney had stated he wanted to see a return to the “imperial” presidency of the pre-Watergate years. So, it may be possible. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 15:02, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
@SpikeToronto: As Yogi Berra once said, "It ain't over till it's over". Check my latest update.Blue Riband► 04:02, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
@Blue Riband: Wow! Fascinating update. Thanks for letting me know. The saga continues … — SpikeToronto 18:20, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

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Matthew.dimasi.offical (talk) 15:49, 23 October 2018 (UTC) Hey Blue Riband, I'd first like to thank you for providing reasoning for why my Titanic 2 page edit was not accepted. In my edit I changed the ship status to 'Planned' and did not change it to 'Under Construction' like you had said. I more than truly agree with you that saying Titanic II is under construction is mainly publicity but despite that it can easily be classified as in 'Planning Stages' given by the recent activity of Blue Star Line, in some of the articles available on the Blue Star Line Website, Clive mentions that talks are underway with people across the world to re start the Titanic II project. To restate I am agreeing with you that 'Under Construction' should not be listed on the ship status page due to it not officially going ahead at the shipyard yet and due to publicity but for the project to be in 'Planning' is accurate. If you still do not agree with the ship status being changed to 'Planning' then might I suggest it is at least changed to 'Announced' or something along those lines. Matthew.dimasi.offical (talk) 15:49, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back. I hope you will review Talk:Titanic II because the latest announcements had been happening in the context of a four year delay where the keel laying was constantly being pushed back. So there is a lot of justified skeptcism based on that past history. It's been "in planning stages" since 2012 and here it is 2018 with still no build contract. An editor who has a professional maritime background claims that Jinling has to expand their facilites to build a ship over 200 meters in length. We also have some editors who strongly believe that a ship should not have an article at all until steel is cut. The "signed contract" was accepted on consensus becuase the ship line and ship yard both have a financial committment on the line. Titanic II is a controversal article and you can help by participating in the consensus discussions at Talk:Titanic II
Your screen name and mention of "Clive" suggests that you have an official role in the Blue Star Line and may have a personal or professional relationship with him. If you are then be aware of WP:COI because we're expected to maintain neutrality in articles. Blue Riband► 16:15, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Again Blue Ribband, thanks for your explanation and I now see why my edit was rejected. Also as formal clarification I do not have any job position at Blue Star Line and I have no social interaction with Clive Palmer, my mention of him without his last name was merely a mistake. I'm heavily interested in the Titanic II project and I'm always eager to contribute to it so thank you for correcting my ship status statements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew.dimasi.offical (talk • contribs) 09:46, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

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Blue Riband here. Yes, I'm aware much of the history on the MV Doulos is indeed copy/paste from the Newport News Apprentice website. The web site owner was very happy to have the material on Wikipedia but balked at having to use the legal language required. It's been two years so I thought this had been taken care of long ago. I'll reopen communication with him and say that he 1) has to replease the text under a CC BY-SA-3.0 license or 2) his historic material will have to be dedacted from the article. If he doesn't agree to properly license the text to Wikipedia then I'll do a re-write. A pity. Having worked in a shipyard he should have understood that certain procedures have to be followed and it's not good enough to just say, "It's OK with me." Blue Riband► 23:09, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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what I edit about Titanic II is in a summary, it's actually about critic reviews giving a negative response, and I only typed words like Bruce Davidson's performances were highlighted for praise. (it's what it says from the sub-article: Reception) ROBLOXGamingDavid (talk) 00:49, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello ROBLOXGamingDavid, I didn't look at any of your other edits but just at Titanic II. When we change an article by adding in something like construction status, we need to use a reliable source to support that change. In this case that source would have been a dependable news or industry publication. To date, there has been no evidence that Palmer's ship is under construction or even has a signed contract with any shipyard. Had a contract been signed Palmer surely would have made it a huge publicity event. This is why your edit was reverted. What's considered a "reliable source"? You might find WP:RS helpful. Blue Riband► 21:01, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Oh that, sorry, I didn't realize. I thought there was going to be construction, but i sometimes neglect to get any sources. I understand. ROBLOXGamingDavid (talk) 01:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage last edit was perfect and accurate, why did you revert it?

Why did you revert the last edit on the page Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage! using the POV as pretext? It was perfect and accurate and was made with the exact purpose to satisfy all parts in disagreement, with no sign of perceptible bias, even less than before. Why did you do that? What was wrong with it? 151.18.10.217 (talk) 12:22, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello 151.18.10.217, I reverted the last edit because it contained unsourced content and WP:POV pushing. The last editor from ISP 151.44.78.107 stated that he/she "Did not include sources yet". Sources need to be included when the edit is made, not whenever the editor gets around to it. If you are editing from both ISP addresses it is also a violation of Wikipedia policy to use multiple accounts. The use of multiple accounts outside of established policy for doing so is known as sockpuppetry, and is not permitted. See WP:MULTIPLE. Blue Riband► 12:33, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

I added the sources now. And I don't use multiple accounts, I edit from the phone, I don't know why should appear I use multiple accounts, I use only one account with the same phone. I don't know what POV you're talking about, everything I wrote is documented and known facts, even sourced, like the American/Western critics who started it all and the ganguro style with lion and Afro items. Everyone knows it. 151.18.10.217 (talk) 15:00, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

The edit that I had reverted came from ISP 151.44.78.107. If the same device is using wifi then the ISP shown will be that of whomever is hosting the wifi service. I would encourage you to create an account and thus not get blamed for edits made by others. When disputes over content arise, editors are expect to start a discussion about those differences on the article's talk page (in this case here: Talk:Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage!). Edit warring without discussion is seen as disruptive editing. You mentioned that ganguro style is something "everyone knows". How do you expect them to know? It's not likely that they will unless the person is familiar with that genre. Blue Riband► 13:10, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Is it because the address changes everytime I move? I still don't get how this works and I don't feel the necessity to create a user name yet. Anyway, I didn't say everyone knows ganguro style, I said that now everyone knows the misunderstanding about it after that event.

Yes. Every time you connect to a different wifi point the ISP address will change. The creation of a Wikipedia user account will solve the multiple ISP problem. Blue Riband► 13:21, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Ok, but everything's fine now? I did good this time? And if yes, can also Yiosie2356 be informed?

Please contact Yiosie2356 yourself on his/her talk page. Better yet, invite Yiosie2356 to a discussion on the article talk page. Civil discussion among editors is how consensus is reached on Wikipedia. Blue Riband► 13:29, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Can I first have your opinion on my last work to know if I respected the requests this time (I really hope so) so I can ask him/her the same?

I'm not familiar with the anime genra and have not picked through the edits to see if the sources actually do support the new content. What I had reverted earlier was addition of content without sources - something that is a lot easier to check. Again, I would encourage you to
1) start a discussion at Talk:Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage! and,
2) copy the argument you made on Yiosie2356's talk page to the article talk page and invite him/her to go there and join the discussion.
Disputes about article content are best made on the article talk page so that the comments are all in one place rather than scattered among all the different user talk pages of the concerned parties. Blue Riband► 15:30, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Done. I hope he/she reads and accepts my invite.

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Thank you for tagging this page for speedy deletion. However, you neglected to post a notification about the tagging on the talk page of the page creator. This is an important step in the deletion process. Most new page patrollers and admins use Twinkle to do this, when they tag pages. Once you set up your Twinkle Preferences to check off "Notify page creator", then Twinkle will post these talk page notices for you. Twinkle has some other nice features like maintaining a log for you of pages that you've tagged for deletion. Please consider using it or, if you don't want to, post a notice on the page creator's talk page yourself. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 03:59, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

@Liz - You were too fast for me. I went to that editor's talk page and by the time I had the right formatting for the template the article was already gone. I had requested the CSD manually as I wasn't sure which category applied. The editor clearly did a lot of work but doesn't understand the notability criteria or sourcing a stand-alone bio requires. Blue Riband► 04:08, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
@Liz I'm not sure on why the page was deleted and didn't see anything in my inbox. Are you guys ok to provide some feedback and things that I can change in the future for further articles that I might possible write? Is their any way that I can retrieve the article? The only reason I ask is that I made the article for my dad so that his hard work can be reconsidered and all of the accomplishments that he has done in his life and thought I'd give it a go?
Thanks for hearing me out guys,
Ethan. User:Ethan0431 (talk) 04:18, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
@User98908655227 / Ethan0431- The article was deleted under catagegory "A7", which means that it didn't note why Torres was notable under Wikipedia's WP:ANYBIO standards. When I read your article it just outlined his culinary career but didn't mention any awards, critical reviews, media interviews, or independent profiles that would elevate him to being outstanding and notable among professional peers. There are hard-working chefs who make dining an enjoyable experince but Wikipedia has a high bar for anyone to have their own article.
It also lacked any sourcing. When an editor has trouble finding reliable and independent sources then, generally, the person they want to write about isn't notable. You clearly put a lot of work into it and you might ask the deleting administrator to "userfy" it for you - this would make it a user page and not in wikipedia mainspace. But I did see in the page history that it had been previously been rejected at Articles for Creation so the answer might be no. I would suggest that you look at the pages of Gordon Ramsay or Paul Prudhomme or other notable chefs as guidelines before you compose the bio again. Why he is notable should be mentioned within the first 2-3 sentances. It must have reliable sources to verify the content. See Referencing for Beginners for ideas on where to look for sources. Blue Riband► 05:02, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Suspect vandal/block evader

I suspect that new user Sparrowbeach is a block evader/vandal. 151.34.253.71 (talk) 11:45, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads-up. If this editor is indeed a block evader/vandal then their block will likely be extended. Blue Riband► 16:43, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Don’t you policemen ever stop? 174.212.99.253 (talk) 03:52, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

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I was going to U5 User:ModernSchoolFBD, but saw that you beat me to it. Thanks for helping keep Wikipedia free of advertising! weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 05:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome. I've been patrolling the account creation log. In my brief experience in doing so, when a newcomer almost immediately creates a user page about half the time it's promotional in some way. Fortunately, they usually don't become problem children but instead just go away when they learn that they don't get free web hosting. Blue Riband► 05:13, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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Please note that some wikis allow organisation accounts - see Commons policy for an example, the German wiki is another. Please don't report users at WP:UAA or caution them on their talk pages if they haven't edited on this wiki. Cabayi (talk) 07:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing that out. I'll immediately cease patrolling the account creation and recent changes logs. If doing so only serves to bite newcomers and not to screen out spamming and vandalism then such actions are only doing more harm than good. Blue Riband► 10:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
I'm not asking you to stop patrolling, just to be judicious in how you do it. Some usernames are so offensive that they are blockable on sight, no matter where they edit, or don't. Organisation usernames don't cross that line. Anything you see at RecentChanges obviously falls under the rules of this wiki. Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 10:40, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

A reminder, users are not bound by the local username rules of this WMF project unless they've edited this project. As for the idea of blocking users on the basis of what you think they might possibly do... have you seen Minority Report? Cabayi (talk) 07:00, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

@Cabayi You're referring to the User name report regarding Theusernamehasbeenblacklistedbecausethiswebsitewontletmesaythefword (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)? I looked up policy on this one precisely because there were not yet any edits. According to WP:UPOL: "Usernames are not allowed on Wikipedia and will be immediately blocked upon discovery if they:..
  • "...are deliberately deceptive, confusing, misleading, unnecessarily long...
  • "...imply the intent to troll, vandalize, disrupt, advertise, or spam Wikipedia...
  • "...imply that you are not here to build an encyclopedia..."?
We already have indicators of "precrime" in effect. Perhaps you see this as no harm done yet, but I'm having some trouble understanding how I should anticipate an individual administrator's interpretation of this policy. Blue Riband► 11:33, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
I am. The report ended up dividing opinion. :-) Cabayi (talk) 10:30, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, you can just call me Betty Crocker if you'd like, it's my new nick and code name. :)

The photos that I have uploaded are from a completely loyalty-free website and has no copyright restrictions, so I was caught off-gaurd when seeing it did. I'd like to notice you that yes, I already did know of the current copyright policies on Flickr and that they are not free. Thank you.

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BettyCrocker321 (talk) 02:06, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello BettyCrocker321, you are new and probably not aware that Wikipedia has much higher standards for "Fair use" images. The Betty Crocker logo that you tried to use was labeled "Fair Use" but Wikipedia only allows corporate logos in articles about the corporation itself, see WP:LOGOS and WP:OVERUSE.
The image that you had uploaded to Betsy Ross flag has been removed by another editor so I can't see were you got it. Flicker has been a huge problem here because some editors had done a "Flicker wash" - copyrighted images were uploaded to a Flicker site before using them on Wikipedia.
There's a lot to learn about Wikipedia. Here is a tutorial link to help you get started: WP:I. Blue Riband► 11:52, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello Blue Riband,
The Betsy Ross flag photo that I uploaded was completely free, and I got it from either iStock or freeimages.com. I now know about why the Betty Crocker logo was being deleted. Thanks.
Yorus Truly,
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I took a look at iStock and it mentions pricing. Freeimages.com mentions in their licensing that "you are granted a free, non-exclusive, non-sublicensable, non-transferable license to use the content subject to the terms and conditions of this license agreement." The problem here is that licensing that allow it to be used on Wikipedia are not free enough to meet Wikipedia's goals. The "non-transferable" term is the killer. Here's a long article on image use: WP:IMAGEPOL. Scroll down to " Fair-use/Non-free images".
Here's a page with sites that offer free images that conform with Wikipedia policy: Free image resources Blue Riband► 19:34, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
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Vandal and potential sockpuppet

This IP address, 2601:986:8001:D870:C1C2:EA35:7F3A:FC41 and 2601:986:8001:D870:0:0:0:4860, needs to be blocked for vandalizing and distroting facts about Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage! and for suspiciously being a sockpuppet with a similar IP address who previously vandalized the page in a similar way. 151.36.156.109 (talk) 00:58, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Do whatever you feel is the right thing to do. Blue Riband► 01:02, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Why have you restored the vandalized version?151.36.156.109 (talk) 01:11, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

I've restored it to the last stable version before ISP editors got into a conflict with each other. Blue Riband► 01:15, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

But he's/she's a vandal and a sockpuppet previously suspended.151.36.156.109 (talk) 01:19, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

If a vandal and sockpuppet is allowed back then they can edit unless they do something that causes them to get re-blocked. (You're new - how to you know who is a vandal and/or sockpuppet?)
If you keep reverting the article without discussion I'm going to report you for edit warring and/or disruptive editing. Please see my message about how to start a discussion on your talk page. Blue Riband► 01:24, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

But IP address, though anonymous, is almost the same, and the edit is almost the same.151.36.156.109 (talk) 01:27, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Enough. I'm not an administrator and have no power to block anybody. If you believe that Yorshie2356 had "vandalized" the article please start a discussion about your disagreement on the article talk page here: Talk:Hatsune_Miku:_Colorful_Stage!. Blue Riband► 01:30, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

I can't believe it, I CAN'T BELIEVE. IT'S ABSURD!151.36.156.109 (talk) 01:35, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Then go to the article talk page and outline specifically what you think is absurd. At Wikipedia we can't throw around accusations of vandalism and sockpuppetry without evidence and specifics. Article content is reached by discussion and consensus. I have no expertise in this genre but did have to intercept an earlier edit war in this article. You must discuss your disagreement in a clear and concise way with fellow editors who are familiar with this genre. Blue Riband► 01:40, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello!

Hi, thanks for welcoming to Wikipedia! I have recently just joined and have made around 10 edits already. I just wanted to say hi and that I hope you have a good day. See you another time. Riot33k (talk) 18:14, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Unneeded non-neutral language/description

To the article Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs has now been added an inappropriate and non-neutral "racist" in the introduction: "Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs is a 1943 racist Merrie Melodies animated short directed by Bob Clampett." Could you do something about it and remove said word, please? 151.19.155.62 (talk) 10:30, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not censored. The "racist" insertion was made by User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao. Go to his/her talk page and tell that editor what you just told me. Or, you can start a new discussion on that article's talk page. The article is protected due so recent ISP vandalism but the Talk page is not. On Wikipedia we are expected to engage in discussions with editors when there is a dispute on content or a question of an edit following Wikipedia policy.
What you are doing is asking me to revert edits for you. You are the one who needs to open a discussion. Please review the policy on WP:NPOV to make sure you are on solid ground. Blue Riband► 12:17, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Ok — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.37.20.71 (talk) 14:01, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

FYI: I'm not the one that "inserted" the language, exactly. There's been an IP trying to override the article with preferred language, and I was undoing its edits, as they had been undone previously. And because someone (likely the same editor) has attempted to rope me into this exchange as well. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:12, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes, I was roped into a different article but with the same argument. As for your "inserting" the word "racist" I had only gone back to the last time the word appeared but didn't look back further. When I encounter heavy ISP warring I'm more inclined to revert back to the last stable version by an editor with some experience. That means some constructive edits in between can get lost but it's time consuming to pick through each one - that was especially true on a page that had over 100 edits in the previous 24 hours.
I told this ISP editor to take it up with you as you had appeared to be the one who added the term but I'll have to look further back. If this editor wants to contribute to Wikipedia he or she has to learn to begin talk page discussions so that a consensus can be reached. (I also have a past history with this editor that's not relevant here.)
What we have here is WP:POV pushing. There are some editors who strongly feel that an animator's intentions were deliberately racist with mean-spiritedness aforethought. Others look it within its historical time context when racial and ethnic stereotypes were rightly or wrongly not considered offensive. Personally I go with the later view unless we want purge a good portion of our film and literature catalogues because somebody found something that was not to their liking. I'll investigate more and see if further action is needed. You won't be pinged but if you change your mind and choose to join in the arguments - you know were to find them. Blue Riband► 20:03, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
@151.37.20.71, @151.19.155.62, and @151.36.156.109 - I'm seeing three different ISPs so I'm not sure if this is addressed to one or more people.
Though it's probably not your intention, what you are doing is edit warring by proxy. "Coal Black.." is protected and you are trying to recruit other editors to make a an edit that you want. In this case you are using the WP:NPOV agrument. I did a more through search regarding "Coal Black" and its description as "racist" goes back to at least 2006. So you will need to make your argument on the article talk page. Whether the word "racist" should be removed as a matter of NPOV or whether the word should stay because of overwhelming evidence that it is widely regarded as such is a matter for editorial consensus.
In Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage! you told me that I had restored to a "vandalized" version done by "ISP socks of a banned user". None of those statements were true. You could not tell me how it was vandalized, who was the banned user, or which ISPs were the alleged socks. (As luck with have it a newly registered editor found your talk page comment and was very pleased to help you out.) Just as an editor who wants to add content to an article is obligated to provide sourcing, so too an editor who makes accusations of vandalism and sockpuppetry must provide specific evidence for those charges.
Unless and until you get an account, and I know who I'm having a discussion with, please don't contact me again. If you want to ISP edit go ahead and do so. But I've told you what you need to do. I'm not willing to proxy edit for you. Blue Riband► 20:52, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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So we can't write articles about ourselves or people we personally know? Alrose1977 (talk) 19:10, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Alrose 1977. You are new to Wikipedia and probably don't yet know that Userpages are intended for editor to express their own interests in how they will contribute to Wikipedia. Some new editors take the term "Userpage" to an extreme and post an entire professional resume. (This is especially true of music artists.) Others post so much personal information that they unknowingly open themselves up to identify theft. Wikipedia discourages us from writing autobiographies or writing about anybody with whom we have a close personal or professional relationship. Because articles are supposed to be neutral in tone, it's often difficult for someone to be objective about those close to them.
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Should be reversed to Deltaspace42 version ทีมกฎหมาย (talk) 22:34, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

You can edit yourself, but explain why it should be reverted to the one last edited by Deltaspace42. I see some ISP edits - were those your while logged out? Blue Riband► 01:20, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
As an unrelated party to those IPs and socks, I am curious as to your reason to revert it back to 1109435324. That revision already suffered problem with respect to the unexplained removal of content that has been extensively discussed in the talk page (and was not otherwise overturned), with 1) no consensus to remove computer scandal; 2) consensus to insert homosexuality ban. The "award and recognition" is only those made to organization, not specifically to the subject of the article, meaning that the subject should not attempt to take credit alone for a collaborative efforts. --124.120.107.150 (talk) 05:06, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
I reverted back to a version before the most recent edit war, although in hindsight it probably should have been reverted back further than that. Personally I have no interest in this subject but did contact the most recent editors and encouraged them to discuss this on the article talk page, which is the way to handle content disagreements. You make excellent points but as yet nobody has started a new talk page discussion. Blue Riband► 12:47, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Can you help me write the Academic journal ?ทีมกฎหมาย (talk) 03:15, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
I created my account because of 100000 baht reward from his daughter.But I am only a student studying to become good teacher .

I am writing the Academic journal about Finland education reform 1999 and 1995 Thailand education reform.That is the reason I came across the rewards.

Becausse you had more experience in Wikipedia do you know how to find the actual person , If so we could split the rewards.ทีมกฎหมาย (talk) 07:58, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't do proxy editing.

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kindly lemme know why you want speedy deletion of my page. Dikazy Glitz (talk) 14:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

As mentioned in the pink box, I nominated it for deletion because it appeared to be promotional. You are new to Wikipedia and probably don't know that userpages are not intended to be personal biographies or professional resumes, nor are they meant to be personal websites. For details on what one can and cannot have on a Userpage please look at WP:USERPAGE.Blue Riband► 14:10, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
okay, great. Dikazy Glitz (talk) 14:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: User:MoazRobo

Hello Blue Riband. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of User:MoazRobo, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G1 does not apply to the userspace. G3 is more applicable here. Thank you. BangJan1999 18:11, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

G3 is for vandalism and hoaxes? I didn't think either was deliberately intended by this editor. Blue Riband► 18:17, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Blue Riband, did you intend that the user page or this user be deleted? As it appears the user page has been speedily blanked, thus also dropping any tags placed there. (Also left this message at User_talk:Faisalishqbznd Group29 (talk) 18:04, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

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I've G7'd it. The other two schools with "Brooklyn and "Preparatory" in their names don't meet WP:GNG. One was a somewhat obscure early childhood daycare/preschool. The other is a charter secondary school and recent consensus feels that just being a seconday school - with no other widespread coverage - fails GNG. So without mention of those two institutions a disambiguation page won't be needed. Blue Riband► 20:10, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for the alert as I wasn't aware of how many pages had to be supressed in situations like this. Twinkle doen't have a CSD category that specifically deals with self-disclosure of personal information. Going forward, I'll just give "too much pesonal information" as the reason without specifying what that information is. Blue Riband► 11:27, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
That works, ta. Primefac (talk) 12:58, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

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This page seemed borderline Userpage/webhost but the flag for me was him posting an actual DOB indicating that he is only 15. Your call, as there is probably some admin leeway for interpretation in cases like this. Blue Riband► 02:23, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you SunDawn. It was surprising that a major train station like this did not already have its own article. But it's been over 25 years since it was demolished and that makes it harder to find on-line sources. Thankfully the Historic American Buildings Survey had a good deal of information. Blue Riband► 20:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

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