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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

This newsletter was delivered by §hepBot around 16:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC). ShepBot (talk) 16:22, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Electoral district of Ridley

Hey Rebecca, I am creating an article on the former South Australian Electoral district of Ridley, which my sources tell me was a Riverland based seat existing from 1938 to 1970. I noticed however in Members of the South Australian House of Assembly, 1993-1997, Ridley is given as the name for a seat held by Peter Lewis in a different part of the state. The seat became Hammond in 1997 and in the 1989-93 members page, Lewis's seat is called Murray-Mallee. Do you know where the source was for Ridley being an electorate name 1993-97? Cheers, --Roisterer (talk) 04:15, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I guess I can add tghis section to the Ridley article. Cheers --Roisterer (talk) 23:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

June 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. I notice that you removed content from Sarah Palin. However, Wikipedia is not censored to remove content that might be considered objectionable. Please do not remove or censor information that is relevant to the article. You have the option to configure Wikipedia to hide images that you may find offensive. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Lenerd (talk) 05:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I had added nothing! I was simply doing my duty and reverting the deletion of a substantial amount of sourced material that may have been POV but still should not be completely struck from the article. I will reword the section in question in an attempt to satisfy both her loyal devotees and others who wish to not see sourced material gratuitously deleted from an article. I would also like to congratulate you on your attainment of Admin despite your apparent taste for edit warring. (Lenerd (talk) 06:00, 21 June 2008 (UTC))

Sarah Palin

Rebecca;

I noticed that you informed Lenard of the BLP rules on Sarah Palin. While I welcome your zeal in this matter, I would like to respectfully bring the point to your attention that the reinsertions were done in good faith.

Respectfully;

Geoff Plourde (talk) 06:11, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

In light of the above, please disregard this section and only apply it towards my reinsertion. Geoff Plourde (talk) 06:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Notice and question

I just clicked some links on your useful stuff page and noticed that the first 2 external links in the variables section do not work. I was also wondering if you could briefly explain your reasons for keeping drafts at your username pages, instead of just immediately creating a partly completed article with the content you already have? - Shiftchange (talk) 23:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

FYI

"There is an Ombudsman Commission at Meta-Wiki that is tasked with investigating complaints about violations of the privacy policy. It occurs to me that it might be worthwhile to ask them to investigate the three instances of "outing" that arose last week when I responded to Filll's Question #5 of his 8 Questions at RfC/ID." WAS 4.250 (talk) 15:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Messages

Hello, Vanished user 5zariu3jisj0j4irj. You have new messages at Dycedarg's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

WP:ANI discussion

FYI, there is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:DyceBot about your block of User:DyceBot. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Rebecca,

Based on Dycedarg's assurance that he would not resume edits in the area under dispute, and the fact that you are evidently not online and he says he has a limited window to do other tasks, I've been a little reckless and unblocked his bot without waiting for your comment. It seems pretty clear your objection was to this one task, and he's promised not to restart that task, so I assumed it would be OK with you. If I'm wrong, then (1) I apologize, and (2) feel free to tell me off on my talk page, and (3) Feel free to revert my unblock with no chance of me screaming "wheel war!" at you. --barneca (talk) 20:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Richard White

I have moved the NSW Supreme Court Judge Richard White to Richard Weeks White as there is a South Australia Supreme Court Judge of the same name (Richard Conway White) and (jurist) (judge) and (Australian judge) don't disambiguate. I have directed Richard White (jurist), Richard White (judge) and Richard White (Australian judge) to Richard White to avoid confusion. I trust this is workable. Castlemate (talk) 04:20, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Rail images

Image:Horsham1.jpg is another station image that needs undeleting, then uncommenting here. Wongm (talk) 08:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Usurpation @ fi-wiki

Would you by chance happen to have any idea why an account by the name of "Rebecca" was usurped on fi-wiki arbitrarily and against decided-by-consensus policy by en:User:Bastique?

If it was indeed you who made this happen, know this: I would infban you on fi-wiki, but that would do no good, because you probably won't ever even visit our wiki. Just curious — how many people do you have to know in order to get global special treatment that trumps local wiki policies?

We may be a little wiki, but we expect that all users — even those in power in larger wikis — abide by our policies in our wiki. The usurpation could have been done in accordance with our policy, but now it's impossible to do it right.

Best regards, MikkoM, admin, bureaucrat, checkuser, oversighter and quite pissed off if our finally finished usurpation policy only applies to little people (21:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC))

I have been advised that you were totally unaware this usurpation was taking place. Please disregard my message above. MikkoM (talk) 19:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

FAR

Shrine of Remembrance has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.

Murdoch

I most definitely do not want a move war over this - we are both *way* above that sort of conduct. But I can point to two others which are not in that format, and I'm sure if I was to go looking I'd find more. It isn't a case of correct vs incorrect, it's a case of consensus and what works for us as a project and what works for readers as well - I feel "state" is far clearer (as well as allowing far more wiggle room in the case of overlap between state and federal electorate names, which is quite common), you don't, I think we've been aware of each other's opinions for a while, we're very unlikely to agree. Orderinchaos 07:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

With the politics project in its current state (hiatus for the most part) it'd be getting the opinions of about three other people and would not represent a project consensus. I had talked to a number of people informally and, apart from my conversation with you at around the same time, got the general idea that people were in favour of the change but didn't care much either way. Orderinchaos 07:10, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Pol Oz template

The point of it is so that readers can navigate between the latest state and territory elections on one template. If it's linked on the template, what is the harm in it being on the election page? Timeshift (talk) 04:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I think it's quite the Oz politics one stop shop as far as templates go. I don't see why you'd object to it, as it's quite useful. Timeshift (talk) 06:13, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

As above. Obviously it isn't area-specific except Politics in general. Perhaps there is an argument for removing the courts. Timeshift (talk) 07:37, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

3rr

I respect you too much to template, but seriously, you've hit your third revert on this. Orderinchaos 09:23, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I do find it a little disturbing that you knew exactly when I'd added the link to the article within a couple of hours of me doing so. Are you hunting my contribs for "state by-election" just so you can pounce on it and revert? If so, we have a LOT more serious problem here than just an edit war. Also note that I had not reverted or altered any of yours in any way - you seem to be trying to take the battle to me. Orderinchaos 09:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

As you know, I'm not, and have never been, much of a traditionalist. My view is that unwritten conventions tell us very well what has been done before but are certainly not the status of unbreakable policy. If the past was dictat, we would never have reform. Your strong views on the matter have been the main reason I haven't tried to change it anywhere else, as I do respect you as an editor and colleague. The other reason is, honestly, I doubt it's something that much more than the two of us care about - I believe "state" makes it more readable and less ambiguous, and I come from the angle of doing a lot of category work and mechanical sorting and project rating and the like where such disambiguations are incredibly useful. People I've talked to about it privately are either mildly supportive, or don't care/don't have an opinion, but I doubt if I was to raise a proposal more than two or three people would bother commenting, and if I was to change them all across Australia, I doubt there'd be a blast of contentiousness from the hordes across the Nullarbor. It's *certainly* not worth going to 3RR to protect and defend the ways of the past. Orderinchaos 09:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

FTF

Hello! Just wanted to say Welcome to the Feminism Task Force! Glad you found out about it. Happy editing! --Grrrlriot (♠ ♣ ♦ ♥ †) 22:16, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter (July 2008)

• Newsletter delivery by xenobot 13:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Sonia & Tamie

Sonia & Tamie are now done, after your comment about their omission. Still stubs, though, as it's too risky to do much more, because the crowds will come yelling "Delete!, they are non-notable!!!" --Lester 00:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Usurpations

• ja:Wikipedia:利用者名変更依頼#Rebecca Filed 1 Aug 2008
• nl:Wikipedia:Verzoek voor hernoeming van account#Rebecca → Rebecca (Usurped)

The SUL tool shows these as not currently linked to your global account. Kylu (talk) 03:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Usurp

English Wikibooks is ready for you. BTW, I'm Canadian :D  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 03:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

More railway images

Image:Ararat8.jpg and Image:Ararat2.jpg require undeletion for Ararat railway station, Victoria. Wongm (talk) 05:55, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Little River6.jpg and Image:Colac1.jpg are some more. I have restored the links to the images in the articles. Wongm (talk) 01:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Commons versions are here - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Colac1.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Little River6.jpg Wongm (talk) 22:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Rebecca at nlwiki

Hi, on request of m:User:Kylu the existing account Rebecca has been renamed, so you can now use your global account on nlwiki. --Erwin85 (talk) 12:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Civility

Rebecca, you placed the following comment on my talk page, 'Please stop removing red links to notable topics. There is no reason for this, and there's no excuse.' I'd just like to remind you that Wikipedia encourages civility. Your comment was not civil, and uncivil oomments are unlikely to convice people. Links to non-existent articles, aside from being annoying and confusing, are likely to encourage people who do not know enough to create articles. Skoojal (talk) 00:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

My Lionel Ovesey article is threatened with speedy deletion

Rebecca, on my talk page recently you wrote, 'Let's look at the example you used of conversion therapy: all of the people you delinked were very clearly notable by Wikipedia's notability policies, generally having in excess of 15,000 Google hits, including a whole bunch of good sources should someone want to write an article.' In this spirit, I've just created an article on Lionel Ovesey, who is a notable figure for the same reasons as the people you mention. The article is now threatened with speedy deletion. I was wondering if you could help me convince the person who tagged it that it will be possible to slowly turn it into a worthwhile article? Skoojal (talk) 11:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Leake

Ah, thanks for that ... for some reason I'd typed "ref name" instead of "ref label". Orderinchaos 15:49, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Request

Hello Ambi, It has been a long time since I've had the pleasure of interacting with you. Since you have experience with the deletion process in Wikipedia, I was wondering if you nominate four "lists" for deletion. You see, if I did it, I'm afraid that I would mess things up as I have done before.

Here is the situation. The following four "lists", List of Puerto Rican comedians, List of Puerto Rican artists, List of Puerto Rican architects and List of Puerto Rican writers are spin-offs from the List of Puerto Ricans.

The four "lists" are not necessary, not managed, occupy Wikipedia space, plus as I stated before, were "taken" from a list that covers them all. The "List of Puerto Ricans" has a management team that has set up a requirement criteria and that requires that all additions be cited with reliable verifiable sources as policy.

I would really arreciate it if you do this. Thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 21:22, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Criminal tag

Hi Rebecca. Thanks for your reply regarding the use of the criminal tag. Your advice taken. --Lester 06:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Your comment

Was it an unfortunate placement beneath my post, or was bollocks drama intentional? The political overtones to some editors' decisions by no means carries over to everyone. For the last eleven months I have mentored an Israeli editor through the Israeli-Palestinian disputes, and he has become a featured content contributor. During that time I have also contributed featured content (separately) related to both Palestinian culture and Zionism. With respect, Durova^Charge! 11:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Rebecca, thanks for the message. If you have no objections, I'll move it up into the Opposed section? --Elonka 17:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I've moved the message,[3] and tweaked the preposition phrase a bit so it would make sense in its new location, I hope that's alright. Also, thanks again for your support. It means alot to me, especially considering our earlier conflicts. It means more to have the support of someone who used to be deadset against me, but who now realizes that I'm not such a bad person after all!  :) --Elonka 15:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

"bollocks"

"bollocks" was the editing comment you left whe you removed that citation needed from the article women who have sex with women. "bollocks" is not was not and never will be a good justification for that. The statement that tag is on requiers some backing up in light of the related discussion on men who have sex with men. In particular after heated debate and an intensive search for a definitive and authoratative source all we could find is that the term MSM is sometimes used to blanket transwomen and sometimes it isn't. I suspect the same is true of WSW. Let us find out.

Please find some sources to back up what you think is so obvious.--Hfarmer (talk) 13:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I am not the one making the claim so why should I have to look for the references? You say "bollocks" I say prove it's bollocks that you need to have sources in a WP article. You can't you know this so you call me "wierd". Have fun being a lemming or a sheep and belonging to a particular "interest camp" or whatever the heck you called it. I revel in being a true individual as unique as a fallen flake of snow.

Now find some sources to back up your claim. No hurry I am busy. Just find me one source that includes all transwomen (including those who have sex with men since that qualification isn't even in there) as being WSW.  :-/ Try and find such a reference. --Hfarmer (talk) 16:37, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Sergei Bagapsh

Hey, I noticed that you wrote the original version of the Sergei Bagapsh article. Most of the information in the original version is still in the current one, but there are several statements with {{fact}} tag attached to them. In particular, see the "Prime minister" section. Do you think you could provide sources for those four uncited statements? Khoikhoi 02:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, those were the days. You could even write a FA without having to have citations. Anyways please let me know if you ever remember the name of this database. I've found a source for the other two. By the way, I've done some editing on the South Ossetia page in the past few days, what do you think of my idea of moving part of the intro into the "Political status" section? (specifically, the part about the provisional government, which is probably in exile right now due to the war). Khoikhoi 03:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Great, I'll try to find a password for it. As for South Ossetia, the website of the provisional government has some recent information, but it's in Georgian. I couldn't find any sources stating where Sanakoyev is, but what I do know is that the Dmitry Sanakoyev article lists his residence in Kurta, and you can see here that there was clearly in fighting in the town, and I'm guessing that the South Ossetian separatist troops currently control it. BTW, I found another page: Amtsakhara. What do you think about the fact tags in that article? Khoikhoi 04:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks again. I'll try to fix it when I have the time. Khoikhoi 08:50, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Interview request

Hello! There's an election on. Can I ask you a couple of brief questions about your steadfast maintenance of Alannah MacTiernan's entry? I'm writing a story on MPs' entries for The Sunday Times in Perth. Davidcohen (talk) 06:14, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Exactly! Just doing your job. I've also asked other Wikipedians about their reverts (see Alan Carpenter and Matt Birney, for example). The main question is why you do it - you don't get paid. Also, I guess these MPs or their staffers can't do it - that sort of thing is frowned upon? Davidcohen (talk) 07:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Not many questions. Why do you do it? Should politicians' staffers edit their employers' entries? Why do you think people vandalise entries? How does the Alannah vandalism - talk about Botox and her personal appearance - rank with the vandalism you've seen? Do you think there's an increase in vandalism because of the looming election? Any other thoughts you have would be most welcome. Thanks Rebecca! Davidcohen (talk) 08:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of shopping malls in the United States

I have nominated List of shopping malls in the United States, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of shopping malls in the United States (4th nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? SchuminWeb (Talk) 18:34, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Australian Railway History

Yes, that is phase 2, hopefully with some assistance from my friends! --Commissioner Geoff (talk) 06:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

March 2004 railway station edits

Looking though the Melbourne station articles, you were the one who created them back in March 2004. What source did you use for the opening and closing dates? Wongm (talk) 05:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

White City is one. Wongm (talk) 11:32, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Quick one re capitalisation

In Category:Lists of legislators in Australia, we have some category names with upper case P Parliament, some with lower case p parliament. Which one would be most correct? I think we should make them all one or the other, but have no personal opinion as to which - MOS would suggest lower case, but if Parliament is regarded to be a title, then it would have to be capped. Thoughts? Orderinchaos 06:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Deletion query

Please see thread at the help desk here. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 11:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a count of (166/43/7). I appreciate your comments and in my actions as an administrator I will endeavor to maintain the trust you have placed in me. I am honored by your trust and your support. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 03:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

LOL

[4] I don't honestly know where Bruce came from. For some reason I can't help thinking of Dr. Alban (the photo in the article does not capture his famously weird hairstyle). Sleep deprivation is not a good thing. Orderinchaos 06:25, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Saw this edit "N Members of the Western Australian Legislative Assembly, 2008-2012 ‎ (work around this absurdity)" - it is incredible to me personally that we have an MOS that requires endashes in titles (which I agree with) yet lead to a funny URL which, interestingly, looks even funnier on pre-XP3 operating systems. If I knew how to use the bug system thingy I'd propose a software change to MediaWiki as a serious suggestion, so that the URLs are always hyphens but the titles display correctly, and links to endash articles automatically go to hyphen urls. Orderinchaos 14:10, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Costa bipolar

Hi Rebecca, As odd as it seems, Costa is on the public record as being bipolar. Regards, Ben Aveling 08:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, but I wouldn't want to cite it without a discussion of it, and I'm not the best person to do that. Regards, Ben Aveling 11:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Railway templates

Hello Rebecca. I notice that you recently edited a railway route diagram for the long-disused Captains Flat line to include a red link to each railway station on the line (I had included a blue link to the town of Captains Flat).

I know that WP:ROUTE#Hints recommends that links on route diagrams be directed to articles for the station in question. However, this seems to me not particularly desirable for rural Australia - especially a line on which no train has run for 40 years and where tangible evidence of the station has, in many cases, long since been removed. WP:ROUTE#Hints also says that "if a station has a WP article, link to that, not to the town."

For instance, I created Template:Tumut & Kunama Lines. By linking to the town, a Wikipedia user could click a link to an article for the towns/villages of Brawlin, Muttama, Coolac, Gundagai, Tumblong, Tumut and Batlow. I have just redirected each link to articles for the station as per WP:ROUTE, and now every single link at every station is a red link.

It is unlikely that articles will appear for each station - they aren't notable enough.

I am wondering if you will agree that it is better in this case for links to go to the towns in question, and not to the stations for which there is not (and probably never will be) an article? --TripleThree (talk) 14:06, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback. I'm cool with linking to the actual stations in the templates if it will lead (eventually) to articles being created for each station. I reckon putting links to the town/village in question in the article's main body is a good idea, so readers still have the opportunity of reading about the town. --TripleThree (talk) 10:39, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Image:Barnawartha2.jpg

Hi, when I checked my deletion log (to check if any copyvio's were again uploaded) I noticed you undeleted Image:Barnawartha2.jpg. On checking the logs that is the second you did so. On June 9 2008 you stated that the license is still being cleared up. Almost 4 months later, any progress on that? Otherwise the image will be, rightfully so, again deleted because of no license tag and other concerns. Garion96 (talk) 16:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I only saw this image after it being listed it wp:pui. You encountered this image a while ago, undeleted it twice and stated that the license is being cleared up. How about you, for a change, get in contact with the owner and get the information so that we can end this bullshit stone dead. Garion96 (talk) 21:45, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I try to get permissions often enough plus I occasionally help out at otrs where this image also would not have been accepted. Since you want to keep the image and know about it for months, why on earth haven't you contacted the owner instead of complaining to me? If you're not interested in doing the groundwork, please refrain from undeleting this image, plus don't state that the license issue is being cleared up, since that does not seem to be true. I will send the copyright owner an e-mail. If I don't get a response in a reasonable time, the image goes bye bye. Garion96 (talk) 23:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I just got a response from the OTRS email submission - Ticket #2008100610016331. Wongm (talk) 21:34, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

File:Colac1.jpg needs undeletion as well. Wongm (talk) 03:13, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Morayfield Shopping Centre

With respects, you have removed tags I placed from an article that does not source any assertion of notability through WP:RS and which reads ike an advertisement. Could explain on the article's talk page your reasons for doing so? Thank you. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 04:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Registered historic places

Hi Rebecca, are you still interested in the Wikiproject for Australian historic places? Somno (talk) 01:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I have started it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian historic places, but as you can imagine there are lots of gaps! I think the first steps are categorising articles and getting a parameter added to Template:WP Australia, what do you think? Somno (talk) 02:59, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Do you think it's worth asking for help on the noticeboard at this early stage? Somno (talk) 03:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

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Paterson Bridge

I suggest that you think through your actions a little more.

The image that you have now twice tagged is very clearly from the era noted in image notes (i.e. approximately 1910), forty-odd years clear of the limit on public domain images. Wouldn't it be more helpful to go find the source for this image rather than deleting it for jollies when you and I both know that it is definitely public domain?

This is on the same day that I've seen you a) try to delete an image of a dead person by claiming that he was in fact, alive, and b) claim that one of the most significant feminist book publishers in history was a self-published vanity press. Perhaps you should be a little more careful with your editing, because that's three times in the one day where your carelessness has negatively impacted upon the encyclopedia. Rebecca (talk) 13:55, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Believing he was alive was a mistake. But we have a free image anyway, and that picture must be deleted.

Jessica does publics through vanity press company Seal Press. --Damiens.rf 13:58, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm gobsmacked. You've just reverted me on Jessica Valenti - by still claiming that Seal Press is a vanity press? This is a major press that has published many of the most significant feminist books and feminist authors of the last fifty years. Did you even bother to Google them before attacking the article? Rebecca (talk) 13:57, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

On what possible basis are you still making that claim? Not only is there utterly no evidence for it if you'd so much as Googled them, but it's arguably libelous as well. And you'd have noticed that he was alive if you'd actually looked at his article. Can you see what I'm getting at here? Rebecca (talk) 14:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I guess, at the time, the article didn't included the death date at the introduction (just the birth date) as usual, so I got confused. What's the big deal? The image needs to be deleted anyway. --Damiens.rf 14:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

And you've still not answered why you're randomly smearing a major publishing company, or why you're hellbent on trying to delete an image which you know for a fact is public domain. Rebecca (talk) 14:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

We need a verifiable source to make sure the image is PD. This is how WP works. I've read somewhere at the seal press's website at the time that they work with a print-on-demand basis. I'm trying to find it right now. --Damiens.rf 14:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I see you've again reverted the page, again on the basis of this bizarre claim. I'm at a loss - what the heck are you doing? Rebecca (talk) 14:46, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not acting based on bizarre claims. I'm just against the removal of a valid concern tag with no justification. Do you realized I wasn't the one to add the tag to begin with? Even if Seal Press is the best press in the word, are you arguing that having a book published by them makes you automatically notable? --Damiens.rf 14:58, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Damiens.rf

Would you support a Wikipedia:Requests for comment on him/her? Paul Austin (talk) 16:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

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Sounds good - you start an RfC and il support it. Paul Austin (talk) 05:24, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I will fully support you guys. That user is completely obnoxious and has made plenty of WP:POINT violations. He should be banned from launching AfDs or IfDs or participating in any deletin discussion. JRG (talk) 05:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

And he's violated Wikipedia:No legal threats off-wiki. Paul Austin (talk) 08:06, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Please prove that immediately or stop these accusations! --Damiens.rf 23:06, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd fully support such a request as well. I believe he epitomizes what a wikipedia editor should NOT be.   Redthoreau (talk)RT 17:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Grammar

Hi, Rebeca. Could you please help me with my grammar on Jessica Valenti? I welcome your input. --Damiens.rf 22:52, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

While reverting my grammar, you also accidentally reverted the information about her books (like isbn link and publication date). --Damiens.rf 22:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Considering your history with the article before, it might well be better for you to pick an article to work on that you don't have quite such an erratic history with - especially since the article is a BLP, and that you have had ongoing negative engagement with its subject. Rebecca (talk) 22:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I haven't (at leat not yet) been reprieved from my privilege to edit Wikipedia. In the case I act nasty, just report me. But please don't ask me not to edit the articles you care about.

So, we will work together? --Damiens.rf 23:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Your work is negatively affecting the project, and in this case, the article on a BLP. I'm asking you to do the right thing and find another article to direct your interest in light of your past history there. It isn't about acting nasty; it's about careless and erratic behaviour negatively impacting upon the project. And if you can't police your own behaviour, I'd have to say that by the reaction your block received, you're probably heading very quickly towards Wikipedia's dispute resolution system. Rebecca (talk) 23:06, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

But would you still work collaboratively with me today, or do you believe your concerns are irremediable? Do you see your dislike for some of my previous behaviors as a good reason to revert any edit I do (rhetoric question, I'm sure you don't)? --Damiens.rf 23:09, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I think with your history with both the article and its subject that your presence on Jessica Valenti is probably unhelpful. Rebecca (talk) 23:12, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Frankly, have you seen my edit history on Jessica's article? I've helped a lot that article. It used to read like a self-provided mini-curriculum. I have searched and added sources, removed pov, unsourced statements and even BLP attacks. I was the one to format each of the references in the article. Also, again, I wasn't the one to add the notability tag. You seem to be emotionally attached to the subject and are being unfair on your qualification of my work on the article. --Damiens.rf 23:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Uh, no. I'm actually a critic of Valenti; that book which you initially claimed was self-published was very controversial in parts of the feminist movement. It doesn't mean that I'm not going to complain when an editor starts doing the editing version of driving drunk and stoned through her article. It's not just your random attempts at disparaging the women (evidently driven by your past clashes with her in the article history); it's your cluelessness about the entire subject (i.e. repeatedly claiming that her publisher was a vanity press, and claiming that some Salon interview said something particularly illuminating when it's the subject of her entire book, and basically her attitude to feminism). Rebecca (talk) 23:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Trying to collaborate with you has been a depressive experience. You seem incapable of assuming good faith, or of avoiding harsh words in every comment. I'll be open to discuss my edits with you whenever you want, but I can't say I'm looking forward for these opportunities. I wish you happiness. --Damiens.rf 23:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Rebecca. please. Help me with the article instead of just reverting it. Your about to violate 3RR. If you dislike my grammar (something that I have tried to address), why don't you help me to fix it, instead of reverting the bunch of my edits, that included grammatic-free improvements, like formating external links and references? --Damiens.rf 23:45, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Alternatively, how about stopping making or reverting back in the problematic edits to begin with? Rebecca (talk) 23:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Alternatively to helping me to improve the article? As I've made clear before, I believe the Wikipedia way of doing things is collaborative work, that would include you fixing the mistakes I've made during my improvements (like the "bad grammar" you mentioned), instead of reverting the whole improvement just for disagreeing with part of it. --Damiens.rf 23:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

RE:

Sorry, TW does the unlinking, not me. I wasn't aware of the ramifications that it would have. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 23:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Hang in there Rebecca

Damiens, will try your patience, sanity, and is a "pro" when it comes to crushing ones editing spirit. Making matters worse, he will pretend to be the "innocent victim" or the "happy naive neighbor" who pretends to be amazed that the person he just harassed for an hour, is not ready to assume good faith and gladly collaborate with him. Do your best to remain calm, as I know how hard it can be. ;o)   Redthoreau (talk)RT 04:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Thankfully he was just blocked again for a week this time.   Redthoreau (talk)RT 04:36, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I can't help remembering back to a certain past Australian editor with very similar editing behaviour. Orderinchaos 02:30, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Just a friendly reminder...please remember that the only valid excuse to go over 3RR is vandalism. When you were reverting Damiens, you actually did pass the 3RR yourself...you could have been blocked for this, but you were not - probably because you were reverting edits that appeared to have been made in bad faith. However, while his edits were not necessarily made in good faith, they were not vandalism. Please just be a little more careful if the situation presents itself again. If it happens again, go to the 3RR noticeboard - or to ANI if the situation seems extreme enough - and stop reverting until the problem is solved. Thanks! --Smashville^talk 15:16, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

you might want to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mount_Murray_railway_station,_New_South_Wales#Mount_Murray_railway_station.2C_New_South_Wales - cheers SatuSuro 00:30, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Eight Hotels Australia

Hi Rebecca. With this edit were you reverting what you saw as my vandalism or simply declining my speedy deletion nomination. I don't want to appear over-sensitive but using an edit summary of "rvt" makes it appear as if it was the former. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 00:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Article tagged for rescue

The Story of Maths has been tagged for rescue. -- IRP ☎ 22:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Moriac and railway lines

I have flipped it back - for the average person it ,ight be better to keep the 'Port Fairy line' links for Koroit and the stations down that way! Wongm (talk) 08:44, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Holtage.jpg

Are you able to restore this image? I believe our friend Damiens.rf tried to remove it from the page after the AfD came up with a keep outcome. It's from the NLA collection - I'm quite sure of that. JRG (talk) 01:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

This got deleted again - you might want to undo it and add a FUR - it's off a page on The Age newspaper if you want a source. JRG (talk) 06:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Three revert rule

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. I have also placed a similar message on nrswanson's talk page. Broadweighbabe (talk) 12:14, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

3RR

Hi, I'm not here to whine about an edit conflict or anything, I'm sure that can be solved with consensus - however on the Amanda Milan article you are one edit away from breaking the 3RR - consider this a reminder so that you don't get blocked, rather than a complaint/threat Sennen goroshi (talk) 15:57, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello Rebecca. Please add your own comment at the existing 3RR case that complains about your editing of the Helen Westwood article. You appear to have reverted the work of others four times on November 3. If you are hoping to rely on some kind of an exemption from 3RR for your reverts, please explain there. EdJohnston (talk) 17:18, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule at Helen Westwood. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Smashville^talk 21:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Look - our friend Damiens.rf has me reported for deleting offensive comments made to you! see here. I give up. I'm going to retire from Wiki from the moment although I may come back at some stage but under a different username to concentrate on smoe rail-related stuff. I've had enough of being abused when I try to help other people. Hopefully my going away will allow someone to do something once and for all about Damiens.rf. JRG (talk) 01:39, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Civility

Please stop. If you continue to add defamatory content, as you did to Talk:Murder of Gwen Araujo, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Lihaas (talk) 10:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your support and encouragement and great work on Wikipedia. I'm taking a lengthy break from Wiki (and am retiring under this username) but I may be back in the future. Please keep Damiens.rf watchlisted and report him if he takes advantage of anyone else - he does not deserve to edit on Wikipedia as far as I'm concerned and I can't stay on here while he is let loose. Good luck. JRG (talk) 06:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Gwen Araujo

Hi...

I know we are not seeing eye to eye on the above article, but that is purely a wikipedia thing - I see no reason as to why this should not remain friendly.

Anyway, I don't agree with your edit (guess you realised that already)

I would hope we can come to agreement without getting close to an edit-war, as that is good for neither of us.

I agree, Gwen was murdered - on a legal and moral viewpoint. But as far as the encyclopedia is concerned I don't think it is necessary to state that. The fact that some involved were convicted of crimes other than murder makes for a BLP issue. More than anything else, there is a suitable alternative in "died" that term is factual, the person is dead, therefore they died. It has used the term died for about 2 years, so without being too rude - the burden is yours to obtain consensus before changing it - you have changed it enough times and had it changed back to make you understand that there has not been a change of consensus, but feel free to show me why it is better to use the term "murdered" and I will change undo my own revert, as it stands I see no reason why it shouldn't use "died" - I don't care about any emotional bullshit related to this article, if it was my blog I would state "Gwen was brutally murdered by some homophobic morons" but it isn't my blog, so emotion has nothing to do with it.

Anyway for the sake of peace and of neither of us getting blocked for edit-waring, please get back to me with either a reason I am likely to consider to change to murdered, an attempt at gaining consensus, or a pledge to leave the article alone for a while with the term died, rather than murdered.

laters

Sennen goroshi (talk) 13:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

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Paterson Bridge

Please don't remove a provided source for an image. That you'd remove it when provided after nominating it for deletion smells of bad faith, and is not a good look. Rebecca (talk) 10:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

The "provided source" was a broken link. That it was provided by a single purpose account smells suspect to me. --Damiens.rf 10:54, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your encouragement! I think I'll be completely over writing even stub biographies by the time I get through the Senators - for a while, at least. Frickeg (talk) 00:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Factual problems at Amanda Milan

I have some concerns about the factual accuracy of some of the recent additions by User:Benjiboi. For example, this sentence "Because of Milan's murder Rivera reformed a transgender activist group, Street Trans Activist Revolutionaries (STAR)." STAR was around for three decades prior to the murder so how can that be true? This one inaccuaracy makes we wonder about the accuracy of everything else he has added. Do you have any thoughts?Nrswanson (talk) 01:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes I agree he has done a good job overall. That's why I am giving him some time to explain/clarify rather than reverting anything. I think the article is improving significantly and once any unclear issues are clarified the notability should no longer be in question.Nrswanson (talk) 01:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Good points and it would be nice to have some cross referencing between the two articles.Nrswanson (talk) 01:22, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Murder of Gwen Araujo

shall we both leave the article alone for a while and cool down? you have made 3 reverts within 24hours, I would rather leave it as it currently stands, than see your name in a 3RR report.

I care about this article, but I see no reason as to why people should get blocked due to a difference of opinion.

Sennen goroshi (talk) 03:16, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, now you have made four reverts. Care to undo your last edit? Sennen goroshi (talk) 03:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Well done, you have made broken 3RR not only on the Gwen Araujo article, but also the Amanda Milan article. Do your opinions outweigh 3RR ? Undo your reverts and get back to the talk page. Sennen goroshi (talk) 03:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Murder of... and BLP

First off, let me say I agree with you. Gwen Araujo was clearly murdered, and the fact that Amanda Milan was pre-op has no place in the lead. However, I'm confused as to how Sennen goroshi's edit are in violation of WP:BLP. I think they violate NPOV, but it's hard to argue BLP when both subjects have been murdered. If there's a rationale that I haven't caught, I'm quite curious to hear it. AniMate 04:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Really? What case was that? I think it's great, with some reservations. Was there a timeline for when someone who has died stops being protected by BLP? If not, that could make editing difficult for certain articles. Anyway, that sounds good in theory, but is it really possible that the ArbCom did something right? AniMate 04:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Dates in members tables

I reverted your recent change in Division of Brisbane (you changed "1903-1903" to "1903" in the members table). In general in other articles these have been kept like this, and I think that aesthetically they balance the table nicely. I know that it seems a little unnecessary, but I personally just find the single date quite odd-looking. If this is changed we should change it in all the articles. Frickeg (talk) 02:49, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

edit warring -warning

You're edit warring at Murder of Gwen Araujo and Murder of Amanda Milan. Edit warring isn't allowed because it is always harmful to the project. Please stop. Rather, use the talk page to try and build a consensus for your edits. Thanks for understanding. Gwen Gale (talk) 11:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

You carried on with reverts at both articles after I left the above warning, so I have blocked you from editing for 24 hours. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:36, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

{unblock|Please undo this block. WP:DTTR is there for a reason. I'm aware of the revert-warring rules, having been here four years, and I know what they're there for. I have not violated the three revert rule (in fact, I believe I was blocked for one revert here), and have been making frustrating attempts towards compromise despite the efforts of a homophobic troll. The article is not under any sort of special arrangements, and there is no grounds for "you're pissing me off" in the blocking policy.}

your comments and request

I've replied to your comments and request at User_talk:Gwen_Gale#lifting_protection. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:10, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

WP:NPA

If you do not retract your accusation, I'm going to have to take this to AN/I. A sysop who is not going to follow policy is cause for worry.— Dædαlus ^Contribs /_Improve 10:24, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Bob Pearce

Quick one, finally got around to writing this one. It's very incomplete and functional in some ways, I'll do more when I have time (i.e. hawk through political chronicles to figure out *why* he was controversial in his Education portfolio), but can you see if there's any obvious grammatical quirks or errors in need of fixing? I've been a bit out of it for a few days owing to humidity so my wording standard hasn't been its usual. If you know anything re post-parliamentary beyond what I was able to find, feel free to add - I have absolutely nothing beyond his exit from the Cabinet in 1992. Orderinchaos 13:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

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I only changed it because there is actually a page at Ernest Keegan. Which I see has now been moved to George Keegan. Sorry - I was just getting rid of a red link. Frickeg (talk) 03:22, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

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Good luck

Another good editor gone. :( It's been a privilege to have worked with you on the Australian politics stuff, and I hope we'll continue to see you pop in every now and then. Good luck with everything. Orderinchaos 09:23, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

What he said Rebecca. What are you going to do with all this free time? –Moondyne 00:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Rebecca, it may sound cliché, but you were an inspiration to us all. The fact that you probably you don't even recognise me is testament to that. Good luck in life. Best regards, Caulde 22:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Goodbye

Saw your goodbye message. I just wanted to say that I'll miss you, and that if you change your mind you'll always be welcome here. Raul654 (talk) 09:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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Goodbye

Thanks for all your work on Wikipedia. Feel free to come back whenever you want, as long as you avoid attacking me in every single edit summary. Your history of great contributions spanning over more than 5 years prove you can do better. Cheers, --Damiens.rf 13:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)