User talk:Risker/Archive 20

Reinstatement of deleted page

Hello, Risker! I was looking to expand on a musicians page which you moved to the draftspace back in July of 2019. I noticed somebody had deleted the draft page shortly after that, unsure of the reason for deletion. I also noticed the persons page (the person who deleted the page you moved to draft) is no longer active, so i wonder if their cause for deletion was even legit in the first place. I was hoping i could ask you to re-instate the page so it can be expanded on by myself as well as any other user who would like to help expand on the subject, especially since the person has become more notable since the creation of this page. I was actually about to create a new page for the subject, but then noticed this page already existed at one point in time, which was moved to draft and then suddenly deleted for what ever reason. The pages link is (or i should say 'was') here: Draft:DiMuro_(record_producer)

Please, if you could help, it would be greatly appreciated! The person who wrote this page to begin with seems like they did a fair amount of work, and it was a bit disrespectful of that person to delete the page right after you moved it to the draft space. I do not understand, but it is what it is. Thanks Risker, hopefully you can help me with this issue!

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You might be interested

in "From the editor". Smallbones_(smalltalk) 04:58, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Smallbones. Risker (talk) 05:21, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

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Taking a look now. Risker (talk) 20:36, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

James Shortt article

Hello. I do have some history on the James Shortt article but I want to make the nature of that history clear. I accidentally ran across it while creating the military imposter article. I'd never heard of Shortt before. At the time, the article was an obvious attack page created by Shortt's detractors that had endured more or less through it's obscurity. My attempts to bring the article in line with policy were met with a lot of pushback from those same detractors who seemed to guard the page. The section in question was the result of a compromise, because (allegedly) at the time those sources were considered acceptable. To be frank, these sources are poor but there aren't any others because subject is IMHO not notable at all, especially when his controversial behavior is removed (which leaves almost no article at all). I voiced this on the article's talk page several times but each time I was shot down. The article was even nominated for deletion once and the detractors came out of the woodwork to crush that. Adding to this problem is occasionally Shortt's fans (or Shortt himself using sockpuppets) appear and try to remove his controversial behavior from the article. I believe TanzanianTuna is one such account. Ideally I still feel his article should be deleted, because if you remove all the material about his false claims of military service, there is nothing notable about him. It is worth noting that there are actually zero reliable sources at all for the article. Sources 1 and 2 from the IBA are self-published (being Shortt's personal business websites) and Sources 3 and 4 are unreliable as well because they are essentially unvetted claims by Shortt that appear as incidental mentions in other people's books. Source 3 doesn't even technically name him, as it's either an alias or another person entirely.Legitimus (talk) 15:04, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts, Legitimus. I think this article is ready for reconsideration at AFD. I note, also, that really there was only one editor arguing to keep the article at the last AFD, and he's now been blocked as a sockpuppet. The reference sources in that AFD are only passing mentions as well. I've posted a new AfD, feel free to comment. Risker (talk) 16:56, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

mmmm

14 February

enjoy --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Oooh delicious, thanks Gerda! Risker (talk) 03:36, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

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How about a big collaborative FA? What was Canada doing in the 1630s and 40s

Encouraged by the collaboration at Sic Bar, I have been thinking how great it would be if a few of us got together and knocked out a new FA as big collaboration. Might you be interested? Giano (talk) 21:24, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

It sounds fun, Giano, but I must warn you that not a lot was happening in Canada in the 1630s and 1640s, especially from the architectural perspective. The entire country had but a few thousand Europeans, most from France or French heritage (although the English and the Scots had a few colonies as well; most of the population was still Native North Americans. There were only 6700 non-natives in New France (Quebec, parts of Nova Scotia and a wee bit in Ontario) by 1672, although by then there were a few basilicas, most of which were destroyed during various wars. Those that weren't destroyed in wars often fell apart, partly because of the huge climatic variations in this part of the world, where it is not unusual to have winter temperatures at -35C and summer temperatures at +35C, and 24-hour temperature variations of up to 25 degrees; in fact, the freeze/thaw climatic pattern remains an issue in construction even in the 21st century. (You should see our roads in March and April...) We certainly don't have the rich and well-documented history of even small European towns from that period. Risker (talk) 06:17, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Requested unprotection for WP:UuU

Hello,

I noticed you were the protecting admin for WP:UuU. Now that it's no longer the earliest surviving edit, I doubt the motivation to vandalize it exists anymore and so I think it should be unprotected.

Thanks! – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 22:52, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

• It's been done already. Thanks! – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 19:39, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Sorry for my delayed response, John M Wolfson. My only concern is that there are literally tens of thousands of both printed and online references to this page being the oldest one on Wikipedia. It was initially semi-protected because it was a magnet for vandalism and test edits by unregistered accounts. Nonetheless, unprotection is certainly worth a trial at this point. It remains on my watchlist (and yours, I presume), so let's see how it goes over the next few months. Risker (talk) 19:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
    • Fair enough. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 19:58, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

AN notice

Just letting you know I mentioned you since I was mentioning something you said back in 2016 here Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Vanishing Nil Einne (talk) 20:39, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Request

My IP block exempt will end soon and I want to request you to expand it. Could I get a permanent one? I'm sure that I must use it to edit. Thank you very much! RuiyuShen 03:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello RuiyuShen. It's exceedingly rare to grant permanent IPBE (to my knowledge, there are only a handful outside of current administrators). I have, however, extended your IPBE for two full years from today (twice as long as the standard one-year extension). Glad to see that you have been very busy editing. Risker (talk) 04:09, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Got it. And I thank you from the bottom of my heart. RuiyuShen 04:11, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for disrupting you again. XinuGod is a Chinese user and he can't edit Wikipedia too. He once requested for IPBE by sent a email to checkuser-en-wp@wikipedia.org but it is strange that he got a global IP block exempt instead of an enwiki's one:(. Recently, he want to write some gadgets which can be convenient for us, so I'm here request a permission for him and I hope that you could grant it. Best wishes. --RuiyuShen 09:32, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

His copied my user page and he isn't my MEAT Orz.... So embarrassed haha.--RuiyuShen 09:37, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello RuiyuShen. I've granted him IPBE for six months based on your recommendation and the fact that he appears to be a good zhwiki user. If he needs an extension he can contact me directly. I could not locate an English Wikipedia IPBE request ticket for this user, but it is possible that he had not included his username, which makes it impossible for us to complete IPBE review. Risker (talk) 20:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Hi Risker, thanks for looking at my request. It seems my autopatrolled has been downgraded form permanent to 12 month temporary while IP block has not been added. Could you double check? Thanks! _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 04:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Oops, sorry about that Jake Brockman. Looks like someone in their great wisdom switched those two options in the user management list and, out of habit, I went to the line I've been using for a long time. Fixed now. Risker (talk) 04:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

IP rants

Hi Risker, the same IP banned by you here [1] is now repeating the same line of comments here [2] and mining a debate, supported by another editor who commented on my removal of offences as "vandalism" [3] Thank you, Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 13:19, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I've blocked the IP and warned the account. (And removed the IP rants on this page.) Bishonen | tålk 13:38, 13 July 2020 (UTC).

Thank you! Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 14:06, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Bishonen and Sadko. Risker (talk) 04:42, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

IPBE and autoconfirmed

I thought this was correct, though I’m terrible at navigating the MediaWiki documentation pages, so I couldn’t tell you where I heard it. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:30, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Well, not exactly. Define a "new" user - nothing in the relevant information page uses the term "new" with respect to autoconfirmed accounts. There are tens of thousands of accounts that don't meet the *editing* criteria and are not autoconfirmed despite the fact they were created years ago; I wouldn't consider them "new" accounts, just accounts not currently being used to edit. It would be correct to say that accounts that are not already autoconfirmed when they are granted IPBE will not be autoconfirmed until after 90 days AND 100 edits (although I can't find any relevant information to find out if that 90-days period starts at account creation or at IPBE grant, or whether the editing requirement includes edits made before the IPBE grant); however, if that information is to be included anywhere on that page, it wouldn't be in the same paragraph as the list of account types that are automatically IPBE. Nothing is simple. Risker (talk) 02:05, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

IIRC, it's not having IPBE that changes the autoconfirmed threshold, but rather the act of editing through Tor. For example, an account with IPBE, 30 days old and with 50 edits, would be autoconfirmed when editing normally but not be when editing through Tor. This weirdness is why it's a group that users are "implicit members" of and admins can't add or remove it (instead, there's the "confirmed" group with the exact same set of rights, that admins can add manually). Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:00, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, when I was looking at the site specs, that's how I was interpreting it; that it's related to torunblocked (Tor). It seems, however, that 'ipblock-exempt' includes torunblocked automatically ("implicit member of the group") so it's not really obvious whether there's a difference when just editing with IPBE on a blocked IP compared to editing through Tor. It wouldn't make a lot of sense if users were autoconfirmed, then edited with Tor and got un-autoconfirmed since they didn't meet the higher criteria, then got re-autoconfirmed when they went back to normal editing... Of course, we *are* talking about MediaWiki, so anything's possible. Risker (talk) 03:10, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Yukio Mishima

One of my favorite authors of the twentieth century, but I have the feeling that the editor whose work you were correcting isn't just in it for the literary reasons: see their edits on Japanese occupation of the Dutch East Indies and related articles. Drmies (talk) 14:12, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I suppose it's a sign of a true Wikipedian that when someone mentioned this person, I automatically checked out his WP biography. And of course, couldn't help myself from fixing some of the most obvious grammatical issues. It was like going back in time - that's pretty much how I started off here. I too had the sense that the original editor's interests lay elsewhere than literature, and given the article is supposedly translated from the Japanese, I wonder whether the original is more balanced. Nonetheless, the article served its purpose in that I learned enough about this person to understand the reference being made about him. Risker (talk) 14:55, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I haven't actually looked at the Mishima article--but I reverted their edits on the Indonesian articles, a whitewashing which evidences a Japanese nationalist POV... Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:57, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Alter your lock

Concerning the article on "86", the addition of "killing" was made on May 9th, the user who did so has been traced back and positively identified as a supporter of Donald Trump. THEREFORE, such addition is politically motivated, and should be deleted. 97.107.46.157 (talk) 01:40, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

No idea what you're talking about, I'm not involved in the US election in any way, shape or form, what with not being an American and all. I ECP-protected it because of edits made in the last 72 hours by at least one account that would not be affected by semi-protection. The talk page remains open. Risker (talk) 01:46, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

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Got your message, Nihonjoe. I'll look at it tonight. Thanks! Risker (talk) 19:20, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Nihonjoe. Responded to your email. Risker (talk) 05:52, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Tichborne case

I think that IP needs to be blocked for a while; see their talk page history and the vandalism in the history to Tichborne case. Since you did the revert I figured it would be quicker to message you than put in a report. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 03:22, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello Mike Christie, been a while since our paths have crossed. I'd just been re-reading that article, which seems to have been on my watchlist for a good 10 years, although I have no idea why. In any case, the article is now semi-protected for persistent vandalism for six months, and I've also blocked the IP for two weeks for good measure. That should help. Thanks for the heads up. Risker (talk) 03:56, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! And hi. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 03:58, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Is it still worthwhile to type in actual attendees of a meetup some nine years after.

Good evening Risker, I was revisiting this [this meetup page]. Do you think it is worthwhile now to add a list of attendees who actually was there in the cafe that night? -- Ktsquare (talk) 03:02, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ktsquare. I'm pretty sure some of the folks on that list didn't attend, to be honest; just because they signed up doesn't mean they got there. I know I was there (it was the first meetup I attended anywhere in Canada), but it is nothing but a vague memory for me now, as I've had the opportunity to attend so many other meetups of various kinds since then. It is kind of nice to have an archive of these things, but I wouldn't personally be devastated if it went away. I suppose if anyone didn't make it, they could take their names off. I'm not sure who's missing from the list, though; it wouldn't surprise me if some names aren't there, particularly those who weren't active Wikimedians at the time. Risker (talk) 03:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks

But sheesh, just don't tell everyone else how stupid I am :) All the extra work I've doing ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Meh, I can't think of a good reason why you would have known that user permission had become available. It's the most recent devolvement, I think. And I can't think of anyone who will use it more wisely or who has need of it than you. While I was there, I took a look to see if there was anything else you might have use for, but I don't think you're into creating new accounts or playing with edit filters or coordinating events, and I'm sure we'd know if you needed IP block exemption. So that really only leaves admin permissions... Risker (talk) 20:15, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Yep. I did have IP block exemption once when I was in a hotel accompanying my father to an extended medical visit, and the hotel IP was blocked (which I discovered as I was trying to promote/archive FAC). No need for any of that! And I am relieved to hear that is a relatively new permission-- perhaps I haven't always been as dumb as I feel now. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:18, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Well, if you ever need it again, just pop me an email or a message here; I'm the IPBE queen more or less (I think I do more than anyone else) and there's no doubt you're a trusted user. Okay...back to the Christmas baking. Up to pinwheels and butter tarts now... Risker (talk) 20:31, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas Risker
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A Joyous Yuletide to You!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!

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Greetings of the season

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Natalis soli invicto!

		Natalis soli invicto!
		Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:18, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Cheers!

🔔🎁⛄️🎅🏻 Atsme 💬 📧 17:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Nice article

Nice article in Washington Post. Hope you are well. NE Ent 20:58, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Aww, thanks, NE Ent. Risker (talk) 03:17, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

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Hello

Hi , Could you please take action on the privacy thing here as no admin seems to have seen it yet? Thank you 70.67.193.176 (talk) 15:06, 3 March 2021 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Works_about_the_Theresienstadt_Ghetto

Addressed, at least enough. The user voluntarily added the info, but it is not suitable for the project. Risker (talk) 03:41, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Regarding your edit to my userpage

Risker I asked you the question on my talk page as well without reading that you normally answer messages from your email or your own talk page. I had asked whether your change to my user page was rooted in policy or courtesy. I'm adding the question here as well per your message to me. versacespacetalk to me 12:25, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

I answered on your talk page so that the conversation could be kept in one place. Thanks for making sure that I saw this. Risker (talk) 19:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Eik Corell

I saw you reduced the user's rollback privileges. Did you mean to give temporary IPBE instead? Sro23 (talk) 02:12, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh geez, yes you are correct. In a perfect world, I'd love to see the IPBE at the very bottom of the list since it's right next to the rollback which can also be time-specified. Ah well. I suppose if I got motivated, I could ask an interface admin to see what could be done. Thanks for the heads up, Sro23. Risker (talk) 02:25, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Email, well received!

This morning, I received your email well. Thanks for your response. A few days ago, fortunately, a checkuser already granted me the IPBE for the English Wikipedia. But I have not been granted the global IPBE yet. Therefore, I would like to request for the global IPBE. Thank you. Zin Win Hlaing (talk) 11:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Risker

I just saw you in a thread .. so good to see you around. I hope that you and yours have weathered these difficult times with minimal problems. I don't get the chocolate brownies anymore :-( ... I've had to change my diet to try and squeeze as many years out of this old body as I can. :-). All my very best Risker. — Ched (talk) 05:40, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah, Ched. Good to see you're still about. I took early retirement last year, so that has made the challenges of the past year much simpler. I won't say easier - I don't think anyone has had an easy time the past year and a bit - but at least it was less difficult to stay safe. Personal matters have kept me pretty busy for the last while, so I haven't been around as much, and now that I'm back pretty much to my previous levels, a lot of the work has been in the background (committees and advisory groups) or CU/OS or stuff that's just in the logs but not necessarily all that visible. Slowly getting my family vaccinated; ironically, I was the first one with an appointment, but there was a mess-up and they actually ran out of vaccine two days before and never called me. The rollout has been pretty atrocious here in Ontario. You keep taking good care of yourself. I make a wicked stirfry... Risker (talk) 05:51, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

ANI revels yesterday

Looking at the ANI history log from yesterday, I noticed a sequence of 25 weird looking revdels, from 22:03, April 7 to 03:41 April 8. I think they are probably all somehow related to the last revdel in this sequence [4], but they also affected a whole bunch of other users' edits (including a couple of mine, in unrelated threads, and an archiving edit by the Lowercase sigmabot). Could you please check what happened there? Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 13:34, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Nsk92. Without going into detail, the edits that resulted in suppression and revision-deletion had nothing at all to do with you, and are not in any way a reflection of the edits you (and several others) made. It is just the nature of the revdelete/suppress tool that if an edit needs to be "removed", the intervening edits between the first post and the "removal" post all need to be dealt with. Because of the nature of the situation, I'm required to be somewhat oblique, but I hope this reassures you that you did nothing wrong. Risker (talk) 14:32, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

have a kitten picture :)

Suspicioussandwich (talk) 13:40, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

		The Checkuser's Barnstar
		You know why. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

• I do, and thanks very much. Risker (talk) 19:21, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Mail

I've sent one. ... (looking through my bag of wiki-stuff) ... ahhh ... here it is ...

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T Rafael Cimino

Thank you for deleting this guys BS. I have indisputable record of Michael Cimino’s lineage as part of the actual immediate family and all of us have been so frustrated by this guy (who is only a second or third cousin) claiming to be his nephew. He has a paid service that replaces the lie automatically and continues to claim it on IMDB and other platforms. Appreciate your dedication to accuracy. 69.117.196.27 (talk) 02:28, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Well, we can hope that this will stay this way now that an experienced administrator who is known to be a BLP hawk has removed that nonsense. He is notable enough for an article, but just barely. Risker (talk) 02:40, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! Michael had two brothers, Peter and Edward, both still living. Peter has no children due to medical issues. There are two biological nephews from Edward and they are 14 (1977) & 18 (1981) years younger than this bogus guy. While his father may also be named Peter Cimino, it’s not the same Peter as Michael’s biological brother.

And if we want to get technical, Michael’s mother was a seamstress, like many women of the time, but he would tell people she was a costume designer because it sounds more romantic. Other fun fact is that Michael was an INCREDIBLE illustrator, especially charcoal portraits, and could free-hand a perfect circle.

Thank you again, all the best! 69.117.196.27 (talk) 05:12, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

just checking ...

... before I go too far. On User:Risker/SV/FA-GA, in the GA table, is this the info you're wanting? Format ok? — Ched (talk) 05:30, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Perfect, Ched! Thanks! Risker (talk) 05:39, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

IRC Note

To confirm, I am user Risker on both freenode and libera.chat, and also user Risker-alt on libera.chat. In case anyone is wondering. Risker (talk) 01:19, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Sarah's obit

Hi Risker. What do you think about using User:Risker/SV as an obituary for the Signpost? I don't know how things work over there or whether it has to be submitted, or even if it's necessary to have an obituary in the Signpost. So wondering what you think. Victoria (tk) 20:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

It can certainly be used as such. I'd like to get it beefed up a bit more: another couple of paragraphs about her FA and GA articles, the patterns of these articles and how she improved entire groups, and so on; however, it looks like I'm going to be a bit tied up this weekend. I'll do what I can, and I hope a few others can expand those areas as well. Let's see where we are on Tuesday; it is getting to be about time to make the submission to the Signpost, but if we give them a heads-up and ask when our "final final" deadline is, then we'll have a better sense of what's going on. I'll approach the Signpost today.

Incidentally, thanks very much to everyone who has helped to build this. I've actually been approached to talk a little bit about Sarah's contributions to Wikipedia for a podcast about Wikipedia, its history, and its communities. If anyone else is interested in also participating, let me know and I'll provide you with the producer's email. Risker (talk) 20:58, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for checking with the Signpost. I've added another paragraph and will see what I can get done over the weekend but will be a bit tied up too - actually through Tuesday or Wednesday. Victoria (tk) 21:21, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

You could just begin in the obit section, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Obituary, which will then be edited (or not) by the Signpost regulars. I was told that the next issue will be published soon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, Gerda. I've now moved the draft there, further edits/copyedits can be done there. Victoria, Tony1, Ceoil, Ched - Thank you for working on this as well. I added more stuff tonight, which should probably be reviewed and copy-edited. It is now at the new location as the draft for the Signpost; should show up on your watchlists and/or you can follow the redirect. Risker (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, that's great. You all prepared a wonderful summary! I miss two things, the Impact award, which she deserved all the time but I somehow waited for a special occasion, - too late. Can you please add that? The other is - I was too busy in March and April to see when it happened - how she prepared her user page and talk page (from brownish to light green ...) for her absence. My 2021 question to the arb candidates (if I and arbcom still exist) will probably be if they would have listened to Sarah's plea in the RexxS case. I'd like this kind of her speaking up for a fellow editor - sure that it wasn't the only time - to be made more obvious in the obit, and I lack the right words. Her death left me speechless. She was one of the pillars on which the community rested. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:37, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

One more: I just went over her user page, and saw Phadriel's award, with the promise "will forever be kept" but going only to the same user page as the signature. The link is User:Phaedriel/Today/June 15, 2007, with a dedicated image and poem, "But this gracious gift from thy heart to my heart / Shall witness to me of thy love forever;". Could you please fix the link on the protected page, if not even mention it in the obit. This was 2007 and the very beginning of the award. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:16, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Risker. Just wanted to swing by your talk page and thank you for taking the initiative on this obituary. I'm not sure if you were aware of this, but I was one of the main authors of the recent obituary for Yoninah. That's why Gerda connect you with me. I'm happy to help and provide advice; just let me know. Edge3 (talk) 23:34, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

I hope you will forgive the intrusion R. The cold attitude being expressed regarding the "Signpost" and its recognition of Sarah is distressing. It seems that it is being claimed that the newspaper is not part of the Wikipedia community. If the unsatisfactory situation continues would it be possible to move things back to your original "User:Risker/SV" page. It could then be preserved somewhat like User:Rhododendrites/Chaney and a link to it could be added at Sarah's talk and/or user page. My thought is that, while they may be the arbiter of how they recognize her, they aren't the only venue available. If this is untenable or unworkable I will understand. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 02:44, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your thoughts on this, MarnetteD. My plan was that we'd get this ready for the Signpost, which publishes in a few days, and after it was published I'd copy it over (with attribution, of course) to the WP:DECEASED page where expansion, copy editing, etc. could continue. Heaven only knows what is in Smallbones's mind here - it's probably the first time he's had an article with this many FA-experienced editors working on it, I'd have thought he'd be excited about that - but it might be useful to read his editor's comments from last month. I think he's pretty burnt out, and sometimes that plays out in decreased sensitivity to others, excessive rigidity and dependence on known structures, and so on. He could certainly improve in communicating much more directly and sensitively. I suggest we leave things as they are, and continue where it is, and then we'll decide on the right point at which to copy it over to the other page (or back where it started, depending). It's really something to see the way that such a wide range of editors have taken an interest in this, and I'm honoured to have (temporarily) hosted it in my userspace while it was in its early development. Risker (talk) 03:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your post R. For some reason "Deceased" had slipped my mind but it is the right spot. It is remarkable how the passing of these people, that I've never met, gets to my emotions. It is not something that I would have anticipated when I started editing back in 2005 but I am grateful that it is part of my experience here. I hope that you have a nice weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 04:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you, Blablubbs - received and working on it. Risker (talk) 23:57, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hah! If only you knew... Risker (talk) 04:14, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

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Awww, Ched, this is so thoughtful of you! Thanks so much. No worries about breaking the chain mail! Risker (talk) 14:42, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

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Greetings,

I'm letting you know in advance about a meeting I'd like to invite you to regarding the Universal Code of Conduct and the community's ownership of its future enforcement. I'm still in the process of putting together the details, but I wanted to share the date with you: 27 June, 2021. I do not have a time on this date yet, but I will let you soon. We have created a meta page with basic information. Please take a look at the meta page and sign up your name under the appropriate section.

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Thank you for being a copy editor at heart, preparing Michael Gomez and Homer Simpson for FA, among many others, for having served as arb and passing your experience, for "Collaboration is, in my mind, the best feature of Wikipedia", for beginning and coordinating the tribute for SV - repeating (16 December 2008): you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2608 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:54, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Gerda. Hope you are also having a good day, and enjoying some collaboration. Risker (talk) 04:02, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I enjoy collaboration a lot! I'm in a team for translations from German with LouisAlain and Grimes2, love collaboration in reviewing, and - this year especially - have helped users with their first FAC, two of three even successfully. Some impressions of places, flowers and music for you, with more thanks to have started the obit that finally appeared. At the bottom: yesterday I had the chance to take one pic of three people "with an article", - hasn't happened before. Sibelius and Mendelssohn's Reformation were the lovely occasion, - listening to the first live concert this year, on livestream in today's version (- president's speech, + another Mendelssohn). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

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Morning Risker - hope you are well. Thanks for actioning the ticket request - very much appreciated. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 06:31, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Happy to help, Lugnuts. Doing okay myself - in a few hours I get my second vaccination. Never thought I'd be so excited about getting a shot. Due to the weirdness of vaccine distribution here, I've had to travel to get both my doses, but tomorrow I get to head north to a place I haven't been since I was a child visiting Santa's Village. It stands out in my mind because of all the children who were chased by the resident geese, who appeared to be as tall as a five-year-old. Hope you're doing well too. Risker (talk) 04:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Great news - hope it all goes well. Got my second jab last month, so day by day getting closer to the end of this! Watch out for Santa's killer geese. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 06:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

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Movement Charter Drafting Committee

Hi Risker, hope all is well with you. When I read that the WMF has opened nominations for its Movement Charter Drafting Committee, my first thought was "that sounds up Risker's alley". There's very few people I'd trust more than you to do something of this importance, and I hope you're at least considering it. Allow me to quote myself from a recent thread on this topic:

The Movement Charter probably has the most long-term importance out of all the strategy work that is happening now and is expected to do most or all of the following:

1. define community-WMF relations, and what the Wikimedia movement is (who it comprises)
2. decide how a Global Council should be composed and selected: e.g. election, appointment by WMF, affiliate selection, etc.
3. define the powers of the Global Council, which could likely include global policymaking authority, ability to represent the community to the WMF, some substantial budget (for staffing the Council and/or for grantmaking), appointment or advisory power over other committees or community bodies, and similar "community representative" functions.

Given that WMF is requiring the global community to adopt a Movement Charter, we really need to get it right. If you're reading this and thinking "ugh, I'd be good at that but I wish someone else does this instead", I hate to break it to you – you are exactly the kind of person we need on this committee.

Again, hope this is something you're considering. Warmly, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 23:28, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

KevinL, wow, thank you for your very kind words. I'll give it some thought. Ping me again after Wikimania, just in case I forget. Risker (talk) 02:49, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Here's your ping :) KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:57, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Well, technically, I didn't forget. I was gathering more information... :) Risker (talk) 02:15, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

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Hello Risker. When you have a moment would you please take a look at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#FYI. If you have anything to add to it that would be helpful. If not no worries. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 00:49, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Additional - the SPI has been deleted so if you don't want to dig into things that is entirely understandable. MarnetteD|Talk 00:52, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi MarnetteD. I've seen both the SPI and the ANI posting. That was an appropriate SPI. I have already done most of that investigation, although it was non-public and was reported directly to Arbcom due to the sensitive nature of it. I blocked the majority of those named accounts back on April 23 following discussion and instructions from Arbcom. Risker (talk) 01:14, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. If I am wrong (which will be a sick at heart situation) I will most certainly be apologizing to all involved. Many years ago someone tried to copy my editing pattern but that came to nothing. Thanks again for the reply. MarnetteD|Talk 01:25, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

No worries, MarnetteD. It's been a weird situation for a lot of reasons. But it's pretty hard for that many accounts to "mimic" another person so consistently over an extended period. I am not saying definitively that there is only one answer here, mind you. Risker (talk) 01:30, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

I’m on the clock, but I need a favor so I’m posting here to keep the isp address in one low key spot: flyer 22 frozen was listed on a collection of accounts that I had as possibly being a middayexpress sock, if I could bother you to check Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Middayexpress/Archive and User:TomStar81/Horn of Africa disruption just to see if anything correlates? If not then so be it, if so then perhaps another look through this would be a good idea. 2600:1011:B10A:BF57:E4A7:59D8:47C9:7FAF (talk) 01:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi there. Not seeing any likelihood of correlation there at all. Risker (talk) 06:55, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

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it's been fixed now, sorry for the dup request DGG ( talk ) 16:49, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks, Another Believer. I did get kind of a snicker about that initial introduction. Risker (talk) 19:58, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you for your message, MoJieCPD. I've reinstated IPBE for a year for you, which is the longest grant we usually give. Risker (talk) 05:59, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

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I have a children's choir on the Main page for appropriate music ;) - can't believe we have no article children's choir --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:32, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks, Rosiestep. Responding now. Risker (talk) 19:54, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Risker, I mentioned you on my talk page and thought I'd leave a note with background info. There's Featured article review open for one of Colonel Henry's FAs, see Wikipedia:Featured article review/Duino Elegies/archive1. A number of newer editors have done considerable work reformatting citations, but in my view the article should be delisted as an FA - I'll be writing up my reasons after posting here. In the meantime it's come up on my talk (the usual bantering w/ Ceoil sprinkled w/ work we're doing), and Sandy chimed in. Then I mentioned you and the ban discussion, just so you know. I hope all is well with you and that you're having a lovely summer. Victoria (tk) 15:32, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Victoriaearle! Ironically, I had been thinking of that editor not that long ago and wondering whatever had happened to the CCI or whatever. Strikes me that I might have thought to suggest that *all* of his FAs go through FAR at the time of the ban, because there was a lot of nonsense in the articles that came to my attention during the (offline) SPI, but that was far outside my scope. I must have been in a particularly benevolent mood when writing some of my comments in that ban discussion, although I do try to keep in mind that even severely problematic editors are, well, people. Given what I see in the FAR so far, and the serious concerns about the accuracy of the sources, I'd be quite supportive of delisting the article. There's scut work, to make sure we aren't publishing nonsense, and then there's the work of completely rebuilding and re-sourcing an already concerning FA; the latter is tenfold more difficult. I'd suggest taking the article back to bare bones of what can be sourced with confidence and then delisting it. My summer has been...weird...I keep having very close contacts with people who come down with Covid a day or two after I've been with them, but not catching it myself. Meanwhile, I have to keep going through the isolate/test/cancel all plans cycle; had an issue with an old dental injury that kept me mostly offline for a couple of weeks; and have been focusing a lot on that whole movement charter drafting thing. I am, however, listening to a lot of music. I should leave a link for Ceoil to give him something a little different for his repertoire. Risker (talk) 17:27, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

It's tricky at the this point. Too many years have gone by, new and enthusiastic editors shouldn't be demoralized (and let's be honest, this kind of situation is demoralizing). Ideally all the FAs would have been procedurally delisted and stubbed down, but the recent work put into the article can't be summarily dismissed. Anyway, I made a long post there and mentioned you again, mainly because you have the institutional knowledge needed for this issue. Covid is lingering, no doubt about that. I just had a long phone visit with a friend whose family is gathering for the first time since spring 2020, and they're all worried about the octogenerian grandparents. I need to have another booster, meant to go yesterday evening, but somehow keep avoiding. Anyway, thanks for the reply. You clarified what I'd been thinking needed doing. Victoria (tk) 19:49, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Yes, the hard part is recognizing all the work done subsequent to the problem point; however, in this case, it's pretty obvious that it will take a lot more work to bring the article back into FA territory, more than would reasonably be expected at FAR. The big problem is the adequacy and correctness of the references, and that will take a couple of weeks to verify all by itself.

I understand entirely what your friends are concerned about. In the past few months, I've managed to visit pretty much all of my family members across Ontario and Quebec (with the exception of a few cousins), and we've all been thoroughly schooled in the test-immediately-before process, especially when it comes to anyone with underlying illnesses or advanced age. I still wear my mask in public places like stores and shopping malls (when I'm not isolating!) and I suspect I'll be expected to wear a mask the whole time when I have to attend the Wikimedia Summit next month. Given how hot it has been in Berlin this summer, I am really NOT looking forward to that. I'm as boostered-up as I can get, and I have managed to escape the wrath of the virus so far. Fingers crossed. Risker (talk) 22:10, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

As far as I know I've escaped too and I've been taking all the many precautions - masking etc. But as you say, fingers crossed. Enjoy your trip to Berlin! And thanks so much for your usual good sense and judgment. You've been helpful. Victoria (tk) 23:35, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

My ears are burning - I am, however, listening to a lot of music. I should leave a link for Ceoil to give him something a little different for his repertoire. For your information, I have very broad taste, and am currently listen to several dance music microgenres :) Only joking, I do actually have broad taste so educate away: would be very much appreciated. ps, thanks a bunch re the Kerryman jokes; the editor seems well intentioned, but the sources are poor and lack any context that could justify a basis for inclusion. Ceoil (talk) 20:14, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

ps, re Berlin: dont plan to do anything between 11am and 1pm when the humidity is at its height. Between those hours, its currently difficult to stand up, not to mind walk around. Ceoil (talk) 20:18, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

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Hi, .usarnamechoice. Since that event, there have been some changes to the administrator toolkit, and admins can no longer edit the MediaWiki interface. Only administrators with the additional interface administrator permission can do so. You can post at Wikipedia:Interface administrators' noticeboard to request that the change be made. In fairness, there is a change coming up in the nearish future that would eliminate the visible IP address in logs and similar (it's being discussed at Meta), so it may be a moot point at this stage. Risker (talk) 00:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

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		Wishing you and yours the best over the holiday season. And thanks for all the help over the years. Ceoil (talk) 16:12, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

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File:Ascott House Front.jpg

Hello. I just want to know why you tagged File:Ascott House Front.jpg as keep local, even if there is a Commons copy and the building is located in a country with full FOP for buildings (c:COM:FOP UK). More so it is already in public domain since the renovating architect George Dewey has been deceased for more than 70 years. In my opinion keeping a local copy with the relatively-useless {{Ir-FOP}} tag is not reasonable now. The tag itself is already redundant to {{FoP-USonly}} which is the de facto active FOP template on enwiki today, used on unfree buildings of countries with no FOP (as enwiki only respects US law). Photos of US and UK buildings are almost accepted at Commons since both have FOP for architecture. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 06:35, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello JWilz12345. Unfortunately, some of us have had negative experiences with images being transferred to Commons. They have sometimes been confusingly modified, deleted, or renamed in ways that make it suboptimal. Keeping a local copy significantly reduces these issues. This has been a much more frequent issue in images that are uploaded with the intention to use them in relation to architecture articles. I hope you find this information useful. Risker (talk) 08:23, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

@Risker: perhaps {{FoP-USonly}} be the suitable tag? I cannot see the future utility of {{Ir-FOP}} since photos of buildings from countries with FOP (like UK) as well as virtually all U.S. buildings are also free for hosting on Wikimedia Commons any way. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 10:54, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Noticeboards

In regards to this comment [5], one reason might be how a lot of welcome templates link to the Wikipedia:Task centre nowadays? It explicitly mentions noticeboards. It's under "community". If you go to that, it lists every noticeboard we have with just one more click. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:46, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi Clovermoss, very nice to hear from you. But...maybe have a non-Wikipedian look at that page and see where they would go to get help. The part about noticeboards suggests that *intermediate* level editors could help others at noticeboards. I know there's no really good way to address this, but this might be something where we'd benefit from comparative newbies telling us what they would find most helpful. The basics of editing, but also...what kind of interactions they can expect, and where to go if they don't know how to handle them. Or something like that. It's something we've never really been good at, because by the time people know how to write the stuff up, we've already normalized a lot of things that are pretty weird to newbies. I don't have a good answer to this. But that template is a good idea! Risker (talk) 05:16, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

So typically when the task centre is mentioned in welcome templates it's in a "things you can do way". See this for an example. I stumbled upon this recently and have been thinking about how maybe something in this situation could be improved. I do think it can have the unfortunate side effect of someone going to a noticeboard and then more experienced editors are like "how do you know this exists?" I think it can be somewhat unfair when a lot of newbies can find that easily if they just read instructions. So I guess it's something I wanted to bring awareness to?

The usefulness of certain things in the welcome templates is a whole separate question. I've given a lot of thought to it myself. I get that the longer we've been around the harder it can be to understand a newbie's perspective on things, but I try. It's one of the reasons I've been trying out the Wikipedia app for the past several months... trying to understand what people are talking about when they reference it in Teahouse questions and trying to meet people where they are (typically the advice given is "don't use the app" but that's not always the answer they want). That's had the bonus of identifying a slew of technical issues just by observation but I don't want to get too far off topic if you're not interested. Anyways, something I always thought was a cool idea was User:Levivich/Help. I've always admired the simplicity of it and how easy it is to navigate and find what you're looking for compared to our categories full of help pages. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 11:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

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ASJ is in the news again due to a heraldic invitation design (link). This allows for more RS cites. Arlo James Barnes 17:20, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Risker, just to say thanks / apologies for the confusion last week, and to pass on two nice songs I think/hope you might like. Linda Ronstadt, and one that's very close to my experience in small towns Iris Dement. Best as always. Ceoil (talk) 21:39, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh ny goodness, Ceoil, what intriguing selections. The Linda Ronstadt song was written by Anna McGarrigle, and it was Kate & Anna McGarrigle who were singing with her. Kate was married at one time to Loudon Wainwright III, and they parented Rufus Wainwright and Martha Wainwright, both very talented singers. (Here's Rufus leading a 1500-person choir in singing Hallelujah [6]) Loudon went on to work with....you guessed it, Iris DeMent. The world is very small. Incidentally, the McGarrigles and Rufus and Martha Wainwright are all solidly Canadian icons, hailing from the Montreal area. Thanks for the links! Risker (talk) 04:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Woah, small world indeed. The Ronstadt song was a favourite of my mother-in-law (and played at her funeral) while the Iris track something I bonded with my own mother while a difficult young punk rocker when it came out....we saw it as a American version of (her beloved Dubliners) [7]. Never knew the connections, and off into the music of the Wainwright family I go: Rufus is really grabbing me - love bathos! :). ....getting to the McGarrigles :) Ceoil (talk) 10:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

I first ran into the McGarrigles one day at the cinema, back in the day when it was commonplace to have a short before the main film. It was back in 1979 (yeah, I know, you weren't even born then), and the short for the day was an NFB "Canadian vignette" called The Log Driver's Waltz, with a soundtrack by the McGarrigles. You can see it here.[8] You're certainly getting plenty of Canadian content today. :D Risker (talk) 14:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh I was also visiting the cinema in 1979 don't worry; I'm just about old enough to remember The Beachcombers which hit Irish screens c 1978:) Very much taken with the McGarrigles; tunes and footage like this is are gold. Horizons broadened, thank you very much. Ceoil (talk) 17:36, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Two years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:54, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

No, I haven't entirely disappeared off the face of the earth...

Yep, I'm on MCDC.Even got the T-shirt.

I've had a couple of folks poke me to ask me where I've disappeared to. The short answer is that almost all of my volunteer hours (which seem to be piling up like nobody's business) have been focused on work with the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. I've been averaging 15+ hours/week for the last couple of months, not including a 10-hour-days weekend at the beginning of June. It's coming along well, I think, although I hope that members of this community take advantage of the different opportunities for review and comment on the draft chapters we'll be releasing in July: decision-making, Global Council, Hubs, and roles and responsibilities. We're also including a glossary this time around. Please. We know they aren't all the way there yet, and we need to get good, useful feedback on how to improve. The comment period runs until after Wikimania in August, and I'll post some links when they're up.

Once we get past that, it will take us another few months to cobble together everything else, get some more thoughts, work out how we're going to do the voting on this thing, and so on. So there's still much to do. But I think the pace will slow down after Wikimania. I hope so. I don't think I've ever said this before, but I'm almost looking forward to getting stuck into a couple of SPIs....

Still around, and I still follow up on this page, and check my watchlist pretty much daily. Risker (talk) 02:18, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I do wonder and worry, given you are a brick of sense and an irreplaceable source of institutional knowledge. A tune to reflect tone Ceoil (talk)

Ah what a lovely tune, Ceoil! You know, I think this may be the first time that any woman appreciated being compared to a brick. :D Stay well, best to the fam. Risker (talk) 02:43, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you

Just wanted to say thank you for staying in touch through difficult times - it means/meant a lot to me. — Ched (talk) 18:27, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

IP Block Exemption

Hi Risker. A couple of years ago you granted me an IP Block Exemption since I often edit on a corporate network that proxies its traffic through Google Cloud. That exemption expired last month, and I sent an email to checkuser-en-wp asking for a renewal, but I haven't heard back. I know you're not that active these days, but would you be able to renew my exemption? Thanks. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:20, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi Ahecht. Have seen your request and have renewed your IPBE. Sorry about the delay on the VRT queue, the few of us who routinely do this have been very busy on other projects and it has fallen behind. I'm hoping to deal with that this weekend. Risker (talk) 21:40, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:06, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

What would it take to get more people working that queue? Is that a CU-only thing? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:04, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

There are several ways of requesting it. Some users post on their talk pages. Some users use UTRS. It is still within the remit of an administrator to grant IPBE on their own, although we do recommend that they make it a short-term (i.e., 3 months or less) grant. The VRT queue is checkuser-only for a reason; those of us who work it are expected to be familiar with situations in which IPBE may not be the only issue (and some of those issues are serious user safety ones - and not just those of the user requesting the IPBE). I'm finally through the worst of the other project so will be happily working the VRT queue until it's cleared. It will be much easier to maintain then. Risker (talk) 16:24, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Between the upcoming IP masking project and the changes to Google Chrome, I'm expecting to see changes to how IP blocks and IPBE are handled by the communities. I don't know whether it's more likely to increase or decrease the workload (increase because more people need it vs. decrease because we give up on IPs as the primary identifier), but I think that preparing for an increased workload might the wiser choice.

It sounds like that would require finding more CUs. Do you have a list of potential candidates already? If I wanted to get two or three dozen new CUs (there are currently 50), would an open call for admins to e-mail ArbCom about their willingness to serve be appropriate? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:56, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

I refer this question to Arbcom, but this is generally the time of year that they put out a call for CUOS candidates. And seriously....there's no way the community is going to tolerate nearly doubling the number of checkusers; I'm pretty liberal when it comes to that, but not even I could agree to that. After all, we *do* have 50 checkusers; if the workload increases significantly, we'll deal with it then. My sense is that, if anything changes, it will be the number of people asking for their IPs to be suppressed, and that really doesn't have a lot to do with IPBE. The bigger problem is the massive number of IPs hardblocked globally because it looks like an open proxy; this isn't likely to change significantly. Risker (talk) 22:34, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

If IP Masking is effective at tracking individual bad actors, we might not need to be so strict about open proxies. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:25, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

IP masking is the exact opposite of tracking individual bad actors. Reaper Eternal (talk) 03:25, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Well, it's more complicated than that. Some bad actors may be easier to track, because all of their edits will be from the same temporary account. Currently, we have:

• Add bad information to an article from Home IP 127.0.0.1.
• Get warning, but never see it, because now I'm edit-warring from Bus IP 172.11.13.31.
• Get another warning, but never see it, because now I'm edit warring from School IP 191.24.4.17.

That user is currently three "accounts" but will be unified into a single, trackable account. The IP address itself will be visible to most patrollers, but it'll mostly not be needed, just like admins can block registered accounts without first checking out their IP address.

Other bad actors are difficult to block now and will remain difficult to block then. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:44, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Well, sort of. That only works if the "account" uses the same device for all of those edits. If they use their desktop at home, their phone on the bus, and their laptop at school, those cookies aren't going to follow them. That doesn't change from today's challenges, especially since so many people have multiple devices at hand. (I humbly confess to personally having five different devices within reach as I write this.) Nonetheless, I've been persuaded (at least partly because of my work as an oversighter) that it's a net positive to not display IP addresses to the public. There are just too many bad actors who can (and do) use that information in ways that are harmful to both good and bad editors. Risker (talk) 01:04, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Same browser and not clearing cookies, but that's how most human editors work. It will work well for the student edit warring from their phone, or for the struggling newbie, but it will have no effect on stopping, e.g., a botnet or the users who are currently changing their IP addresses to evade detection.

Admins will still be able to see the IP addresses and set IP-based blocks.

Risker, I can have five IP addresses (and at least two ISPs) just by picking up my phone and strolling down the street. Our current system is flawed, and while https://xkcd.com/1172/ is real in the individual case, overall I would not want to put much energy into carefully preserving it. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 01:33, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Meh, no worries. This reminds me of some ancient history. When my house was filled with teenagers, I taught them all browser hygiene and cookie-clearing. A couple of the kids thought I was a bit nuts ("then I have to log in every time!"). I just blandly looked at them and asked them if they ever visited sites that would get them grounded if their parents saw the cookie or the access history. They blanched and said "good idea!" And this (and editing Wikipedia) is how I became the "cool mom". Risker (talk) 01:45, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

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Are you on it? - CorbieVreccan ^☊ ☼ 00:01, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

No, I am a former arbitrator, and a current CheckUser and Oversighter. My main focus over the last 2 years (give or take) has been the drafting of a proposed Wikimedia movement charter. Only active arbitrators are on the Arbcom mailing list. Risker (talk) 00:18, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

OK, check your mail, please. Best wishes, - CorbieVreccan ^☊ ☼ 00:36, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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❄️ Happy holidays! ❄️

Hi Risker! I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. It was great to meet you in Toronto, and best of luck with all your committee work! Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!

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Solstice Celebration for Risker, 2023, DALL·E 3.

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Note: The vibes are winter solsticey. If you're in the southern hemisphere, oops, apologies.

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IP Block Exemption Extension

Hey Risker,

Back in winter 2023, I sent an email to the VRT team to request a block exemption, as my life circumstances are keeping me from editing via an unblocked IP address. You granted this request on 29 December 2023, and mentioned I could request an extension here if I was still interested in editing. I still am, and was wondering if you could grant me such.

Thank you for the consideration, Anodium (talk) Anodium (talk) 00:38, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello Anodium. I have extended your IP block exemption for 3 months. Risker (talk) 02:12, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Hope your day goes well. Anodium (talk) 02:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi Risker, similar circumstances as my last request. Could you grant another extension? Thank you. Anodium (talk) 17:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done for one year. Risker (talk) 20:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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