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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [1].
Gary King (talk) 21:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:43, 17 October 2008 (UTC) [reply]Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
- "Mutations, Midnite Vultures, Sea Change, and Guero were
allcertified Gold." - "Beck has received six awards from 15 nominations"-->Beck has received 6 awards from 15 nominations—MOSNUM says that comparative quantities should either all be spelled out or all written in digits.
- "The song "Where It's At" received Best Rock Vocal Performance – Male while the album Odelay won the award for Best Alternative Music Performance."-->The song "Where It's At" received the Best Rock Vocal Performance – Male award, and the album Odelay won the award for Best Alternative Music Performance.
- "Beck has received six awards from 15 nominations." Same thing as above.
- "three awards from 11 nominations" Same thing as above. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:18, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All done Gary King (talk) 02:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- What makes http://www.rockonthenet.com/ a reliable source?
- You might want to link MTV in the references.
- Otherwise, sources look good.
–Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All done. Rock on the Net per discussion here. Gary King (talk) 19:55, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [2].
Gary King (talk) 06:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
"The band, led by frontman and co-founder Axl Rose, has gone through numerous line-up changes since its formation." "has gone through"-->has had or has experienced."Guns N' Roses has released five studio albums during its career"—When else would they be released?Reference 4 needs a last access date.Dabomb87 (talk) 12:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- All done. I don't necessarily agree with the change of "has gone through"; is it because it's not very encyclopedic? Because grammatically, isn't it correct? Gary King (talk) 17:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments -
Current ref 4 is lacking a last access date.
- Otherwise sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All done Gary King (talk) 17:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Another great list Gary. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 16:32, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - The band, led by frontman and co-founder Axl Rose, has had numerous line-up changes since its formation. - why not say who the current line-up is?--SRX 20:17, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- What makes http://www.rockonthenet.com/ a reliable source?
- Otherwise, sources look good.
–Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:46, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Rock on the Net per the discussion here. Gary King (talk) 19:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [3].
Hello, another Victoria Cross recipient list for your perusal. I think this meets all the criteria and follows in the wake of other lists in the campaign topic. The Second Afghan War is not covered that well in Wikipedia, it doesn't currently merit its own article though that may be something I develop in the future. Thanks. Woody (talk) 22:04, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC) [reply]Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
- "The original Royal Warrant did not contain a specific clause regarding posthumous awards, although official policy was to not award the VC posthumously." I think there should be a the before "official".
- Disambiguate Hyde Park.
- "In the 19th century Afghanistan was seen as an important buffer state to the north-west of British-ruled India." Comma after "century".
- "Over the next ten years, relations between the two countries deteriorated, primarily over the issue of Russian encroachment on Afghanistan." "Over the"-->During. Also, "ten"-->10 to be consistent with the other figures over 9.
- "This led to Britain sending him an ultimatum demanding a British envoy be accepted into Afghanistan; when this was ignored, Britain sent in three columns of British troops." Avoid using the grammatically awkward noun + -ing construction ("Britain sending", "ultimatum demanding").
- "The Victoria Cross warrant was not officially amended to explicitly allow posthumous awards until 1920 but one quarter of all awards for the First World War were posthumous." Comma after 1920, perhaps?
- "After a popular uprising in December, Roberts withdrew to Sherpur" Not sure, but I think there should be a comma after this phrase.
- "before launching a major attack on 22–23 December when they occupied Kabul once again." Did the forces recapture Kabul, or did they already occupy the city?
- "Roberts led a force from Kabul to Kandahar which defeated the rebels at the Battle of Kandahar on 1 September 1880." "which"-->that. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- They have all been done except the "the" before official as I think this is an unneccessary word. It reads better without the "the" to me. Thanks for the review. Woody (talk) 10:31, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks as ever for the reviews Ealdgyth. Woody (talk) 15:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Looks good Gary King (talk) 06:15, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - another well constructed VC list that meets the criteria. Although, it would be better if an image of the VC was incorporated within the article some where. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 06:47, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Full Support - You must be getting bored of this process by now Woody! Cam (Chat) 01:00, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [4].
previous FLC (20:26, 11 October 2008)
I am resubmiting this list, in order to achieve FL status. Jaespinoza (talk) 17:26, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC) [reply]Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
- Be consistent when writing numbers greater than 99, either write them all out in words or write them all as figures. Right now, I see inconsistencies: "seventeen days", "13 releases", "twenty number-one albums" etc. FIXED! Jaespinoza (talk) 23:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Puertorican performer Ednita Nazario with her twentieth album, Por Tí, peaked at number one for the first time." Words got switched around here. FIXED! Jaespinoza (talk) 23:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dabomb87 (talk) 22:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This article says that 30 Inolvidables means "(30 Unforgettable Songs)". However, the 30 Inolvidables article says that it means "30 Unforgettables". Which is it?. FIXED! Jaespinoza (talk) 01:27, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Bronco with Siempre Arriba also spent one week at the top with their first album released as their new group name: Bronco: El Gigante de América." Unclear; what does "their first album released as their new group name: Bronco: El Gigante de América." mean? FIXED! Jaespinoza (talk) 01:27, 18 October 2008 (UTC)Dabomb87 (talk) 12:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Review
- which went on to win the Grammy Award for Best Pop Instrumental Album. - how about, which won the Grammy Award for Best Pop Instrumental Album later in the year. FIXED! Jaespinoza (talk) 06:26, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Un Día Normal by Colombian performer Juanes reached the top spot of the chart on its 68th week, - comma after the album name and after Juanes. FIXED! Jaespinoza (talk) 06:26, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- while fellow Mexican norteño music band Los Tigres del Norte peaked at the top for the fourth time (out of 13 releases)[9] with Herencia Musical: 20 Corridos Inolvidables. - at the top is weasely, say the specific ranking. FIXED! Jaespinoza (talk) 06:26, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ricky Martin's Almas del Silencio debuted within the Top 40 in twelve countries,[10] received a Latin Grammy nomination[11] and also debuted at number one on the chart. - you talked about 12 different countries earlier in the sentence, so which chart did it debut on #1? FIXED! Jaespinoza (talk) 06:26, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Bronco's Siempre Arriba also spent one week at the top. - specific date? FIXED! Jaespinoza (talk) 06:26, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Mexican ranchero performer Pepe Aguilar debuted at number two on the chart on April 12, 2003 with Y Tenerte Otra Vez and the following week climbed to pole position. - what does pole position mean? FIXED! Jaespinoza (talk) 06:26, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Cuban salsa performer Celia Cruz with her last recording Regalo del Alma, debuted at number one on the chart and won the Grammy Award for Best Salsa/Merengue Album. - should state that she died later/earlier (can't remember) FIXED! Jaespinoza (talk) 06:26, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - my review was addressed to meet WP:WIAFL. Good work Jaespinoza, buen trabajo.SRX 21:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [5].
Gary King (talk) 22:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments- What makes http://www.rockonthenet.com/artists-m/davematthewsband_main.htm (and other refs from the same source) reliable?
Sources look good otherwise. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 22:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- rockonthenet.com per User:Ealdgyth/FAC_cheatsheet#Music Gary King (talk) 23:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sounds good. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- rockonthenet.com per User:Ealdgyth/FAC_cheatsheet#Music Gary King (talk) 23:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
"They have sold over 31 million albums in the United States, placing them in the 100 highest-selling music acts of all-time."-->They have sold over 31 million albums in the United States, making them one of the 100 highest-selling music acts of all-time.Ref 17 is missing a publication date: It says on page 3 that the article was posted on December 3, 2001."The My VH1 Music Awards were a short-lived annual awards ceremony" were-->was.
Dabomb87 (talk) 15:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All done Gary King (talk) 15:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment beforeSupport - gain to prominence?SRX 23:55, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- I've added some on how they all met. Gary King (talk) 04:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [6].
previous FLC (20:26, 11 October 2008)
Relisting nomination as the previous one did not garner enough comments. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 07:15, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per previous nomination. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:12, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- "The series was put on hiatus twice in that country due to Hoshino falling ill; however, the series continued a few weeks later" seems a bit ackward, maybe something "The series was put on hiatus twice in that country due to Hoshino falling ill; each hiatus lasted a few weeks." or maybe give more specific details on the two hiatus (start/end) if available?
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Collected volumes" should probably be tankōbon volumes to match header below (or visa versa). * "is being sold in over ten other countries" - in English, Japanese, or regional languages?
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "the first chapter appearing on May 2, 2006" - appeared?
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It seems like this part "D.Gray-man has been licensed for an English language release in North America by Viz Media and is being sold in over ten other countries" should come after the parts talking about the Shueisha volumes, and before the lead into to Viz serializing the series.
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- As with episode list, the "See Also" section seems redundant to the template
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sources could use some clean up, in the Shueisha sources the "| 星野 桂| ジャンプコミックス|BOOKNAVI|集英社" part seems extraneous
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Amazon source (#28) needs clean up to remove ref and extraneous parts - should just be amazon.com/dp/ASIN
- Link doesn't work if that's used. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- For the vol 12 ref, for example, http://www.amazon.com/dp/1421523892/ works to go to the same page, without the referer tags. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 17:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- English tag seems unneeded on an EL, that's a given if not specifically stated otherwise :);
-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Think that's it. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support main issues all addressed and can't see any other faults. Well sourced and summaries are brief but complete. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 17:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [7].
previous FLC (23:06, 26 May 2008)
Believe all the old concerns have been addressed. -RunningOnBrains 03:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- What makes the following reliable sources?
- Current ref 3 is lacking a publisher
- Per the MOS, we don't put link titles in all capitals even when they are in all capitals in the original. (Link titles in the refs)
- A number of your links in the refs are lacking last access dates.
- Otherwise sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:37, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done I think, except for one. The disaster center website just uses the Storm Prediction Center archives and puts them in table form. I could cite a different website, but this is the only one that actually does the math so I think it's better to have a straightforward source. Regardless, I'll see if I can find a better one. Tornadoproject.com is the website for The Tornado Project, started by Dr. Thomas P. Grazulis (also the author of one of the book refs), pretty much the authority on historical tornadoes, so I believe it would be considered reliable.-RunningOnBrains 00:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: The National Weather Service cites Grazulis regularly, so I would consider his website reliable. Here is one such case, others are easily found if you need them [8]. WxGopher (talk) 03:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
- "This is a list of tornadoes reported in the history of the US state of Connecticut." Featured Lists don't start like this anymore.
- I don't get your meaning. How do they start? -RunningOnBrains 21:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All lists used to start with "This is a list of...". Now, it's encouraged to think of a new and interesting lead sentence. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 22:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't get your meaning. How do they start? -RunningOnBrains 21:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"While Connecticut is not known for tornado events..." "While"-->Although.- Done
"They occur most commonly in Hartford County, although since 1950 Litchfield County has recorded the most tornadoes. Several areas have been struck more than once, and Waterbury has been struck by no less than 4 tornadoes since 1955." Inline citations for these sentences needed.- I don't think basic math needs to be cited. If each tornado has a citation, including where it occurred, I don't see how these statements need inline citation.-RunningOnBrains 21:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"While Connecticut tornadoes are typically weak, isolated events can be violent." Again, use Although instead of "While".- Done
"The year 1973 was particularly active: eight tornadoes occurred on six separate days." Use a semicolon instead of a colon.- Done
Images which have captions that are not complete sentences should not have periods.- Done
"A 300 yard (274 m) wide tornado unroofed several homes in northern Bridgeport." Hyphenate "300-yard".- Done
"levelled"-->leveled, only one "l" in American English.- Done
"One boy was killed and 33 others were injured." Since these are comparitive quantities, spell out both numerals.- Done -RunningOnBrains 21:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now, hyphenate thirty-three.Dabomb87 (talk) 00:40, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done -RunningOnBrains 21:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
More comments later. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:18, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Pre–1850" Should be a hyphen, not an en dash. Also, I don't have time to make more comments today, I'll try to tomorrow, and if not tomorrow, then Saturday. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:40, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"A Connecticut tornado is a tornado which has affected the US state of Connecticut." This is definitely not necessary. There is no requirement to have something in bold at the beginning, just a engaging lead. The second sentence is good enough for me.Actually, would "Before 1850" be acceptable for the heading that you just changed?"September 18, 1918: A tornado cut a path 130-160 feet across from Groton, Connecticut, through Mystic, and out into Long Island Sound. Small buildings, roofs, trees and telephone poles were damaged heavily. Several people received minor injuries from flying debris" Dash use, needs period at the end."a path 50 to 300 feet (15 to 91 m)wide." Space after close parenthesis."1000 acres (4 km²)" Don't use the "2" subscript symbol, use the convert template or use subscript markup."two acres (8,000 m²)" Same thing here."An F4, it destroyed almost 400 structures, and injured 40 people."-->The F4 destroyed almost 400 structures and injured 40 people."Miraculously, no one was killed by these devastating tornadoes, though a girl was killed when straight-line winds blew a tree onto her tent." "Miraculously" is POV.- Is "amazingly" ok? -RunningOnBrains 17:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, I don't think you can use synonyms to fix this; better to just get to the point. Readers can figure out themselves that it was "miraculous" or "amazing" that nobody died. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Is "amazingly" ok? -RunningOnBrains 17:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Inconsistent ues of adverb and verb order: I see "briefly touched down" and "touched down briefly".- I actually thought about this and was wondering: is it better to use consistent (read: repetitive) wording for all these minor events, or should I be demonstrating "brilliant prose" (not to say that being consistent can't be brilliant, just wondering whether consistency or originality is more important)? -RunningOnBrains 17:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Consistency is definitely more important here, especially since a lot of the bullet points containing that phrase are consecutive. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I actually thought about this and was wondering: is it better to use consistent (read: repetitive) wording for all these minor events, or should I be demonstrating "brilliant prose" (not to say that being consistent can't be brilliant, just wondering whether consistency or originality is more important)? -RunningOnBrains 17:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"This was the sixth most damaging tornado in US history." Hyphenate "sixth most"."11 mile (18 km) path" Hyphen in "11 mile" needed."One person was killed, with another 50 injured"-->One person was killed, with another fifty injured..."August 28, 1911: A tornado cut a three mile (five km) path" Hyphenate "three mile"."cutting a five mile (eight km) path through Hamden." Hyphen needed in "five mile".Dabomb87 (talk) 16:02, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]"Twenty homes, 63 barns, and 1,000 acres (4.0 km2) of forest were destroyed." It's the comparative quantities thing again.Dabomb87 (talk) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Reference 3 http://www.disastercenter.com/conn/tornado.html needs a publisher. Also, what makes this site reliable? Dabomb87 (talk) 02:16, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done I substituted in a book source. It's not as up-to-date, but it is a solid reference. -RunningOnBrains 17:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support No concerns. Well done. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:25, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Every time I have looked at this article in order to review it, I got stuck on the paradoxical statement "They occur most commonly in Hartford County, although since 1950 Litchfield County has recorded the most tornadoes." I have not found a source for the statement that they occur most commonly in Hartford County, so I infer that this statement is simply a description of the data in the table. In that case, I believe that it would be more accurate (and less paradoxical) to say "More tornadoes have been reported in Hartford County than in any other county in the state, but since 1950 Litchfield County has recorded the most tornadoes." This would reflect what I believe is the reality: we don't actually have enough data to say where in the state tornadoes occur "most commonly" (and one might quibble with the word "commonly" there, since they are uncommon), but we do know where they have been reported. --Orlady (talk) 04:58, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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- Thanks for fixing that. --Orlady (talk) 18:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - Nice list, well-presented and thoroughly sourced. I have just one more comment, though. The storm of August 7, 1839 is described as passing through "an uninhabited area of present-day Wallingford." I don't think the boundaries of Wallingford have changed since 1839, so I believe that should simply refer to "an uninhabited area of Wallingford." --Orlady (talk) 18:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [9].
previous FLC (20:26, 11 October 2008)
Renominating list that failed because it did not receive enough input. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 02:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - I couldn't catch any flaws in the prose or the table, meets WP:WIAFL.--SRX 23:58, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments - where are the refs for the transcluded lists (and yay for their being used more!)? The see also seems unnecessary with the template having the same links. Where are the English episodes going to air or is it not stated yet? I am really not a fan of the reference column in tables instead of just putting the ref behind the release date...but will defer to others on whether that is now an accepted convention. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- See the general reference. Cut the "see also" section. It hasn't been stated when the English episodes will air. The reference as a column cites all the information, so I think it's a better format, and is used in other lists. Cheers, — sephiroth bcr (converse) 02:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The general ref only seems to cover the Japanese titles though. It doesn't have the airdates nor the English titles? Okay on the ref cols. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The series has only aired in Japan. The English titles are all translations (shouldn't you be familiar with this from the thirty or so FLs we have?). Changed up the refs though. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 02:17, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, sorry, it said it was licensed so I had a brain cramp :-P Ref change addressed that issue nicely. Support. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:53, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Nirvana
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [10].
I am nominating this for FL nomination as I believe it is ready for this promotion. Also, this nomination if part of the FLC Contest going on right now. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 02:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Current ref 2 (Sky Train) is lacking a publisher
- Otherwise sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "The SkyTrain in Vancouver" – "The Vancouver SkyTrain"
- "4 of which" – "four of which"
- Lead should be longer.
- I'll try making a longer prose. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 18:32, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- I think a good place to start would be with the system's history. That should probably go before the analysis of the actual lines. Gary King (talk) 18:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gary King (talk) 18:23, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose mostly because of the prose
- The first two sentences need to be combined because the current first sentence seems like an incomplete thought.
- There should be more info on history of these lines than just one clumsy sentence.
- As I said to Gary King, I would try to expand the lead later this week. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 03:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Avoid using parentheses in the prose.
- In one sentence, I read four instances of "of which". Needs to be re-worded.
There is a column for "previous names" just because three out of 33 stations changed their names? I think a note should be made to indicate those three changes.Any reason why use the boldface and italics instead of colors?- Any reason why use colors instead of the boldface and italics? If the WP:MOS saids so, then I will change it. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 03:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Any reason why use colors instead of the boldface and italics? If the WP:MOS saids so, then I will change it. -- SRE.K.A
- Done -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 04:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- You just added the colors. WP:MOS says that we should use boldface for the article name and table headers only. You need to replace boldface and italics with some other symbol.--Crzycheetah 05:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done -- SRE.K.A
- It's good to see a Google map used as a reference, but why not use it for other captions, as well?
- I will try to do that. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 03:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- May I ask you where should I put the Google references, since I don't know what to reference. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 04:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Sorry, didn't notice your question, the fourth caption needs a Google reference, and the second caption needs a reference that it was named after that stadium.--Crzycheetah 05:35, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done all the referencing. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 06:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done all the referencing. -- SRE.K.A
- Sorry, didn't notice your question, the fourth caption needs a Google reference, and the second caption needs a reference that it was named after that stadium.--Crzycheetah 05:35, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- May I ask you where should I put the Google references, since I don't know what to reference. -- SRE.K.A
- The lead should mention something about the zones.
- I don't know if that is possible... -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 03:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
--Crzycheetah 02:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done all without a comment. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 03:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Why is there no info on Canada Line and Evergreen Line?
- They are not part of the SkyTrain brand. Look at the article Canada Line, and you'll see that it has not be confirmed yet whether or not if it wil lbe branded with SkyTrain. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 03:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- The Evergreen Line will be part of the SkyTrain in 2014, but I won't be including it on the list as it did not open yet. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 06:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- I think you can add that at the end of the lead.--Crzycheetah 04:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I already added that on the second paragraph if you didn't notice. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 05:04, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I already added that on the second paragraph if you didn't notice. -- SRE.K.A
- I think you can add that at the end of the lead.--Crzycheetah 04:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The Evergreen Line will be part of the SkyTrain in 2014, but I won't be including it on the list as it did not open yet. -- SRE.K.A
NeutralI need to go over it one more time before supporting.--Crzycheetah 02:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Support--Crzycheetah 02:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Although you know and I know, I think that you should say that Vancouver is in Canada.
- Most articles related to the United States or Canada don't include the country, but instead the province/territory/state. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 20:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Well I'm not sure that is true and you haven't even specified the province anyway. There is also the point that there is another Vancouver (admittedly a smaller place but with a population of 160,000 or so, not insignificant).Boissière (talk) 19:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I do know that there is another Vancouver in Washington, but I think I really don't need to put Canada as I feel it is unnesscessary. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 03:10, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I do know that there is another Vancouver in Washington, but I think I really don't need to put Canada as I feel it is unnesscessary. -- SRE.K.A
- Well I'm not sure that is true and you haven't even specified the province anyway. There is also the point that there is another Vancouver (admittedly a smaller place but with a population of 160,000 or so, not insignificant).Boissière (talk) 19:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I can't help feeling that the section that you added as a response to other comments which describes the history of the system reads slightly strangely. It reads a bit like a prose list of stations added to the system; some of it seems to imply stations were just tacked on the system without mentioning that there was a section of line added too.
- Can you clear what you're trying to say. Sorry, but I only have a intermediate understanding of English. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 20:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- It's not easy to explain - the prose doesn't strike me as particularly compelling. One of the things that is missing is any line lengths and I don't think you need to list every station added. For example I would prefer statements such as "In 19xx the A line was extended by 3 km with 5 new stations.". If you are willing I could try and rewrite that section.Boissière (talk) 19:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I would be happy for you to rewrite that paragraph, as long as I won't damage my FL nomination. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 03:10, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I would be happy for you to rewrite that paragraph, as long as I won't damage my FL nomination. -- SRE.K.A
- It's not easy to explain - the prose doesn't strike me as particularly compelling. One of the things that is missing is any line lengths and I don't think you need to list every station added. For example I would prefer statements such as "In 19xx the A line was extended by 3 km with 5 new stations.". If you are willing I could try and rewrite that section.Boissière (talk) 19:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "There are 33 stations on the SkyTrain, 4 of which are on the Expo line..." I think that only should be added here or reorder the sentence so that the shared stations come first. It is slightly confusing otherwise. Oh and there's a typo, "Vanouver" in the following sentence.
- Cleared the typo, but I feel that the word "only" sounds a little bit WP:POV. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 20:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- What I was trying to get across is someone is reading it and starts reading the sentence "There are 33 stations on the SkyTrain, 4 of which are on the Expo line" and at that point thinks "Hey, I thought that the Expo line had many more stations than that" and has to read to the end to see the bit about the stations on both lines to clear up his confusion.Boissière (talk) 19:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The sentence about the longest automated system is oddly placed, coming amongst stuff that describes the stations. As its quite notable you could probably put it nearer the start of the lead.
- I think you need to clarify what is meant by a transfer station (i.e. transfer just between SkyTrain lines and not transfer to other modes). One might also ask why the other stations on both lines are not marked as transfer stations. You might also want to add a note that the Broadway and Commercial Drive stations effect the transfer via a direct link (and describe the nature of that link if possible e.g. connecting bridge etc.).
- I don't think I really need to explain that much for the transfer point. I thougt it was really clear to everyone, but I wikilinked transfer station. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 20:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- That's fine, though I would still prefer a note about the two linked stations.Boissière (talk) 19:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- When hovering over the system diagram in the top right, the tooltip shown is a bit odd with a lot of white space.
- Well can you tell me what to do in order to make it more neater? -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 20:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- When I made the comment I thought there was a way that one could specify a different tooltip to the caption, but reading up on it this doesn't seem to be possible. Unless anyone knows a clever way round this? Boissière (talk) 19:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It may be me but describing a terminal as the <x>bound terminal doesn't sound quite right. I think I liken it to <x>bound platform which is the platform that you take to go in the x direction. Northern/Southern/Eastern/Western terminal seems more correct.
- I'm sorry to tell you this, but if you actually lived in Vancouver, you will know that they are called Northbound, Southbound, Eastbound, and Westbound. There is no eastbound terminal as it continues along the Expo Line. I didn't tell the readers that as I think that it should be obvious and clear to them. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 20:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Well of course most people reading this article don't live in Vancouver but if it is official terminology then I don't have a problem with it. Boissière (talk) 19:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Boissière (talk) 19:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I have replaced one ref from Nationmaster Encyclopedia with a fact tag, since Nationmaster Encyclopedia is a copy (mirror of an older version) of Wikipedia, and thus not a reliable source. Fram (talk) 08:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done referencing. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 03:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- SRE.K.A contacted me to review the article so here goes
- running principally on elevated tracks -- is it completely elevated?
- fixed sentence. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- was said to be -- who said WP:AWT
- changed to was. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "municipal government" reads odd -- perhaps municipal council?
- Done Make sure I did this right. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "the longest mass transit-only bridge" -- longest in?
- Done Make sure I did this right. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "is currently being planned," - check continuity
- Deleted currently
- "There are 33 stations on the SkyTrain..." -- sentence needs to be split.
- Done Make sure I did this right. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "majority of the stations" -- rephrase, just a shade over "majority"
- Done Make sure I did this right. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- What is an Offical transfer station -- Is there something like an "unofficial transfer station"?
- Changed it to just, "Transfer station". -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Local Authority -- lower case
- "the most heavily used station" ==> grammar (has the highest...)
- Done Make sure I did this right. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Most of the remaining portion" -- tighten prose, too vague
- I only have an intermediate understanding of English. To be honest, I don't know how to change it. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Recommend the map be uploaded as an SVG image
- I can't make svg files. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Increase the size of the map. Is crucial for understanding.
- transit officially known as "Intermediate Capacity Transit System" --> check officially
- deleted offically. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Suggestion: The distances between each station could be an interesting addition.
- Thanks for the suggestion but I'm afraid it can't be done as I can't find a reference for that. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "The first section of the Millennium Line opened in 2002, with Braid and Sapperton stations." -- usage of "with"
- I don't understand what you mean... -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Have you considered using Wikipedia:Route diagram template?
- Impossible for this article as it can only do one line at a time and will use too much space. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Opening sentences need a copyedit.
- I already know that but as I said above, I only have an intermediate understanding of English. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "World in Motion - World in Touch" convert hyphen to dash
- Check the usage of "with"
- Look above. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 01:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "SkyTrain, 4 of " -- spell out numbers less than 10
=Nichalp «Talk»= 18:51, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The middle paragraph is complicated to follow. The sentence beginning "TransLink, which took over" is too long. I suggest you simplify it a bit and get someone to copyedit the prose to help with flow and native-English style. This chronology of the stations can be seen in the table so perhaps all the detail in the prose isn't needed. It would be great if you had an additional map showing the chronology of the track: different colours (with numbers alongside, for any colourblind readers) for each phase of development, along with a key. It is a shame the current map is a JPG as that makes it fuzzy compared to a PNG or SVG. There are folk on WP who convert diagrams, but I forget which project that is. Please consider using accessmonthday and accessyear cite parameters and plain US/Canadian date format (November 13, 1971) rather than using the ISO format. Although the system you've used displays correctly for logged-in users, it shows as ISO format for 99% of readers, which isn't that friendly to non-computer-types. Colin°Talk 19:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I requested the convesion of the image, but I cannot copedit the article as I only have a intermediate understandingof English. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 23:06, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments by SatyrTN
- Thanks for your use of pictures - very nicely done!
- The lede is quite long. Some of that info is pertinent to the article SkyTrain (Vancouver), but probably not necessary in the list. In my opinion, the first two sentences of the second paragraph could be removed.
- Being able to sort by "Line(s)" is unnecessary.
- I'd remove the wikilink on "Zone" in the column header, then link it in Note A.
- Otherwise, this looks good. I
ConditionallySupport this FLC. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 22:30, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done all! -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 03:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please add
class="unsortable"
to the "Lines" header column. That will remove the sortability of that column, per my suggestion 3 above. Nice work! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 06:21, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please add
- Comments by DavidCane
- Looking at the articles for Sapperton and Braid Stations and the Millennium Line, the map appears to be wrong with Sapperton and Braid stations switched.
- I requested the change on WP:Graphic lab/Image workshop
- With regard to adding a Route diagram template. It would actually be quite easy as the template can handle very complex arrangements. see right.
- Thanks a whole bunch, but there's one problem. Where do I put it? -- SRE.K.A
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- 1st paragraph: "The Expo line was built in time for the Expo 86 world fair". As the next paragraph says it was built as a legacy project, so "in time" is redundant.
- Are the actual opening dates of the Expo and Millennium lines known rather than just the years?
- I'm trying to keep in consistent, as some do, and some don't. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 20:31, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- 2nd paragraph: "extending service to Surrey." should be either "extending services to Surrey." or "extending the service to Surrey."
- 2nd paragraph: "In 2006, VCC-Clark opened, which complete the Millennium Line." should be "In 2006, VCC-Clark station opened, which completed the Millennium Line."
- 2nd paragraph: Presumably these are Canadian dollars.
- Done noting it. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 20:31, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- 2nd paragraph: "TransLink, which took over BC Transit's SkyTrain operation, proposed a two-phase expansion: a $1.2 billion Millennium Line from New Westminster to the Vancouver Community College via Lougheed Town Centre in Phase I and a $730 million Coquitlam line from Lougheed Mall to Coquitlam Centre via Port Moody and a Western Line from Vancouver Community College to Granville Street via the Broadway Corridor, both to be completed before 2006, in Phase II." is a very long sentence. I suggest this is broken up to make it easier to follow. Also "both to be completed before 2006" appears to be unnecessary." For example:
- "TransLink, which took over BC Transit's SkyTrain operation, proposed a two-phase expansion: The first phase was a $1.2 billion Millennium Line from New Westminster to the Vancouver Community College via Lougheed Town Centre. The second phase was a $730 million Coquitlam line from Lougheed Mall to Coquitlam Centre via Port Moody and a Western Line from Vancouver Community College to Granville Street via the Broadway Corridor"
- Fixed I just copied your version and pasted it into the paragraph. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 20:31, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed I just copied your version and pasted it into the paragraph. -- SRE.K.A
- 3rd paragraph: "Their are four stations..." should be "There are four stations..."
- 3rd paragraph: It would be easier and simpler to state how many stations are served by each line and how many are shared.
- Done Check it incase I did something wrong. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 20:31, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- 3rd paragraph: "...most highest used..." should be "...most highly used..." and "...is the lowest." should be "...is the least used."
- Is there any information as to usage numbers for the stations?
- There is, but it is way overdue, as they only did it in 2003, and things may change. If you want me to put the 2003 stats up, I'll be happy too. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 20:31, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
--DavidCane (talk) 17:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [11].
Another FLC contest list, I'm afraid; yet another Jesus College list, as well, so extra apologies. Is it complete? Well, whilst there is no complete list anywhere else to check against, I've scoured The Times, the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, the Dictionary of Welsh Biography, Who's Who, Who Was Who, the two main published histories of the college and the college's annual publications since 1992, and I can't see how anyone else would have slipped past all of these sources! Comments welcome. BencherliteTalk 21:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Current ref 7 (Biography College de France...) is lacking a publisher
- Done.
- Would be nice if you indicated on the ONDB refs that you need an subscription to access it.
- Every time? It already says that a subscription is required in the General References section, as it does for Who's Who and Who Was Who.
- Otherwise sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support with comments - picky ones though...
- Last sentence, first paragraph of lead, needs work. Too long perhaps, but " dismiss members of academic staff as redundant, or to dismiss or discipline members of academic staff for reasons for performance or behaviour, or to dismiss " has a few repetitions in it and I'm not convinced by "for reasons for performance" either...
- Trimmed. I was trying to follow the language of the statutes, but have given up... BencherliteTalk
- eighty-two->82 per MOS.
- Same with sixty-four.
- No to both: MOS:NUM#Numbers_as_figures_or_words – "Comparable quantities should be all spelled out or all figures: we may write either 5 cats and 32 dogs or five cats and thirty-two dogs, not five cats and 32 dogs." As I've got a "three" in the same paragraph, I'd rather have them all spelled out. BencherliteTalk
- I'm not convinced Wales needs to be wikilinked but I won't fall on my sword for it to be unlinked.
- Well, I'll leave it, then. Not every reader of WP will know that UK != England. BencherliteTalk
- "is currently" - tend to avoid this, I'd go for a more precise "As of October 2008..."
- Done. BencherliteTalk
- Link MP.
- Linked. BencherliteTalk
The Rambling Man (talk) 16:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Many thanks. BencherliteTalk 16:52, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No worries. No problem with the MOS either - I'll need to do more homework when I get back before I dare try another serious review! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose An impressive list and full of impressive people. But there are some minor issues and a couple of more serious ones
- The date format is inconsistent (try logging out to see what 99% of readers see). Consider using accessdaymonth and acccessyear parameters instead of accessdate.
- As The Rambling Man notes, there's some WP:DATED issues particularly affecting some of final lead paragraph. ("every decade since then"; "have been elected since then"; "the most recent election")
- WP:DATED refers to events that will date quickly, and doesn't apply here IMHO. That said, I've removed the offending sentences for other reasons, since two people think that the lead is too long.
- The second paragraph appears to be entirely original research. As you indicate, there is no source that lists all 82 people and you don't cite any that confirm, for example, that Francine Stock is the only woman. Much of this information can be discovered by the list readers, using the sort option to group the link column entries. IMO the lead is overlong, so removing this paragraph would help.
- Hee-hee, SatyrTN thinks I should remove the sortability of that column, so I can't please both of you! I've removed the references to numbers and repeated the citation (non-internet) about Stock being the only woman. I've trimmed the lead.
- Much of the information in the link and notes columns is unsourced. This is particularly true of those entries sourced to the Oxford University Gazette, which merely contain a list of names. Some of our people lists contain unsourced DoB or nationality which I'm relatively comfortable with overlooking because it is a minor detail, useful for identification, and actually rather hard to source. I suppose someone might challenge even that minor info. But, for example, stating that Yoder won the Pulitzer Prize in 1979 really demands a source. BTW: having a separate Ref column makes it hard for me to tell if the source (particularly one I can't read) covers the HF year, the link and/or the notes. It is possible that all three facts might be separately sourced. Colin°Talk 17:35, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yoder is sourced for all three elements in the one source, but you can't read that source on the internet. That's the problem with offline sources, isn't it? Do you really need me to give an internet source as well for the fact that he won a Pulizer Prize? If so, I will.My mistake; I was confusing the article that I wrote on Yoder with the list entry; the article has two sources, one of which is offline and contains the fact of his college attendance, his PP and his election date to an HF. I'll add in another source to the list entry. Are there any others that you think demand sources for particular note entries? Do you really want me to put a ref by the HF year, the link and the notes as well? I think that's overkill, since very often it'll be the same ref three times, which is pure reference bloat and will look very messy - hence keeping everything in one column.- Thanks for the review. BencherliteTalk 11:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The cite web/news difference is one problem, but the other is the use of ISO date formats, which should really be discouraged as that's what logged out readers see. The DATED text will/may be out of date as soon as there is another election. The issue is that without making your time frame explicit (As of 2008) the reader and future editors won't know if or when your text became out of date. I think the Link column sortability is now working fine and is useful. I agree that having refs inside most of the cells would be ugly. My point is more that once you start distrusting that a row-ref actually supplies a source for all the row, then it becomes hard to know which facts you are claiming come from the row-ref. Some of the sources supply everything and some only supply the fact that X was elected in YYYY. All the notes information is challengable, IMO, and technically the Type (were they a former fellow) is too as both are significant pieces of information in this list. It looks like all the rows sourced to Oxford University Gazette lack the detail required (unless the paper version has more detail and the online one is just an outline, in which case the source should be the printed version and the web link should clearly indicate it is just a summary). Colin°Talk 12:45, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Access dates put into a revised format. Added a whole load of extra refs to ensure everything's covered at least once. BencherliteTalk 15:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good when logged out now. The sourcing is much better. Support. Colin°Talk 11:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Access dates put into a revised format. Added a whole load of extra refs to ensure everything's covered at least once. BencherliteTalk 15:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The cite web/news difference is one problem, but the other is the use of ISO date formats, which should really be discouraged as that's what logged out readers see. The DATED text will/may be out of date as soon as there is another election. The issue is that without making your time frame explicit (As of 2008) the reader and future editors won't know if or when your text became out of date. I think the Link column sortability is now working fine and is useful. I agree that having refs inside most of the cells would be ugly. My point is more that once you start distrusting that a row-ref actually supplies a source for all the row, then it becomes hard to know which facts you are claiming come from the row-ref. Some of the sources supply everything and some only supply the fact that X was elected in YYYY. All the notes information is challengable, IMO, and technically the Type (were they a former fellow) is too as both are significant pieces of information in this list. It looks like all the rows sourced to Oxford University Gazette lack the detail required (unless the paper version has more detail and the online one is just an outline, in which case the source should be the printed version and the web link should clearly indicate it is just a summary). Colin°Talk 12:45, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments from SatyrTN
- As per above, the lede is waay too long, IMO. My suggestion is to take out paragraph two and the accompanying quote. Just my opinion.
- I have trimmed the lead. However, the quote is the single most interesting individual fact in the list. It is the only documented reaction I have found of a HF's reaction to being awarded an HFship. It was sufficiently interesting to be made the lead item (with picture) at DYK. Why on earth would you want to remove the quote?
- More pictures! Surely out of the 82 entrants on the list there are more available?
- No more photos on the accompanying articles. Most of the people are still alive and not sufficiently photographed to have free-use images waiting around to be used; those that are dead are often too recently dead to have photos out of copyright.
- The column header "Link" is vague - It took me several readings of the key to figure out what you meant. "Link to College" would be too long a header. Perhaps the Key could be renamed "Key to Links" and start that off with a sentence like "Most Fellows are linked to the College in various ways. These include:" Or something like that.
- Reworded.
- I'm not sure about this one... Sorting the "Link" column may be problematic. If I've sorted that way, I'm interested in counting how many Old Members there are, for instance. But six of them end up out of order (since they're "F/OM"). I'm wishy-washy on this, but I'm leaning towards removing the sortability of the Link column.
- Well, I'm strongly leaning to keeping it, particularly when (as noted above) the previous opposer was using the sortability of the link column as a justification for calling for changes in the lead paragraphs! To make it even better, I've changed "L" to "CL" so that the "F"s lead into the "F/OM"s and then into the "OM"s without the sole "L" in the way.
Conditional Oppose, but with changes I could support. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 18:54, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Thanks for the review. BencherliteTalk 11:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm still worried about the lede being so long. I feel like this is trying to be both an article (where reactions to being named would definitely be included) and a list (where they may not). My concern is not quite strong enough to justify an oppose, though :) BTW, this is good work, conflicting reviewers or not :)
- Weak Support -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 16:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Update I have asked Colin to revisit this FLC, but his busy schedule hasn't permitted this yet; please hold off archiving this until he does. Thanks, BencherliteTalk 22:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry. I'll aim to look at it this lunchtime. Colin°Talk 07:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [12].
Just finished copyediting, cleaning up, expanding, and improving. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Julian, did you forget that date autoformatting is now deprecated? And actually, so are concealed links, such as your [[1950-1969 Pacific hurricane seasons|1966]], which not only discourages readers from clicking on it (same old boring year link?), but is misleading as to the content. If I knew what the article was, I'd be much more interested. Here's a tip: why not avoid the link altogether in the lead and spell it out in full (even with an extended note about what began in 1966) in the "See also" section? More interesting; more reader-friendly. Tony (talk) 11:53, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Good points; I fixed those links. Thanks for the comments, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:18, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "transitions, as well as dissipation." – "transitions, and dissipation."
- "The timeline also includes information which was not operationally released, meaning that information from post-storm reviews by the National Hurricane Center, such as information on a storm that was not operationally warned on, have been included" – "The timeline also includes information which was not operationally released such as information from post-storm reviews by the National Hurricane Center, which include information on a storm that was not operationally warned on." – or something along those lines. At least get rid of the improperly used "meaning"; some redundancy in the sentence, too
- "seasonal ACE was" – ACE is what?
- "Tropical Storm Barbara in June caused $55 million (2007 USD) in crop damage in southeastern Mexico from heavy precipitation.[" – "Tropical Storm Barbara caused $55 million (2007 USD) in crop damage in southeastern Mexico from heavy precipitation in June.["
- "Eastern Pacific " – capitalized differently from earlier
- "Central Pacific" – should also follow suit
- "threatening Hawaii but causing little damage" – "and threatened Hawaii but caused little damage"
Gary King (talk) 04:20, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All done, thanks. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:27, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "which include information on a storm that was not operationally warned on." – "which include information on storms that were not operationally warned." – I'm not even sure what the sentence means. "operationally warned"?
Gary King (talk) 02:40, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Clarified. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I copyedited a bit of redundancy out of it, but I still don't understand what it means. When I Google the phrase "operationally warned on", it brings me back to this FLC, so I don't know what it means. This probably means that there's a better way to phrase it. Gary King (talk) 17:26, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It's no different than the word "operationally", really. The word means, essentially, that the subject was noticed at the time it existed. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 17:40, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I copyedited a bit of redundancy out of it, but I still don't understand what it means. When I Google the phrase "operationally warned on", it brings me back to this FLC, so I don't know what it means. This probably means that there's a better way to phrase it. Gary King (talk) 17:26, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
- Add the format=PDF field to all PDF web references.
- "Tropical Storm Barbara in June"-->In June, Tropical Storm Barbara...
- Is there no need of a colon when writing UTC time?
- I'm not entirely sure. I've always known it to be written without a colon, though. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:50, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "the hurricane threatened Hawaii" What does it mean to "threaten"?
- In this context, to "threaten" means to threaten to affect an area, but turn away before doing so.
Dabomb87 (talk) 13:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the review. Cheers, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:50, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [13].
previous FLC (10:07, 7 August 2008)
If I recall correctly, this didn't make FL due to it being part of a discussion about the amount of positions in charts. The list remains in good condition since then, and hopefully it can make it through the nomination process. Red157 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- Having signed to V2 Records, 2003 saw The White Stripes major label debut, entitled Elephant which has since gone Platinum in the United States and double Platinum in the United Kingdom. - why is platinum capitalized?
- This was followed by Icky Thump in 2007. Both albums made the top five of the Billboard 200, Icky Thump with the higher placing of number two,[1] and both also won the Grammy for Best Alternative Music Album. - very confusing, you need to split these.
--SRX 00:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I do believe both are done and thank you for commenting so quickly. Red157 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- There is a second platinum capitalized in the same sentence above.--SRX 00:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That was careless of me, done. Red157 00:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- There is a second platinum capitalized in the same sentence above.--SRX 00:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - meets FL Criteria.--SRX 01:11, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 04:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "acclaim whilst pushing" – "acclaim while pushing"
- "the current alternative rock scene" — "the alternative rock scene" – what's so "current" about it?
- "Having signed to V2 Records, 2003 saw The White Stripes major label debut," – "The White Stripes signed to V2 Records and released their debut album on a major label in 2003" – much cleaner
- "which has since gone platinum in" – "which has been certified platinum in"
Gary King (talk) 21:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All done. Red157 14:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose
- "This list does not include any material by Jack White as a solo artist or as a member of The Raconteurs." ← remove it!
- "This was followed by De Stijl, which was well-received by critics and was their first album to chart in the United States." – In which position? 0?
- "The White Stripes signed to V2 Records and released their debut album on a major label in 2003..." → "...and released their major label debut in 2003..." (?)
- "entitled Elephant" → "entitled Elephant," (comma)
- "Both albums made the top five of the Billboard 200, though Icky Thump managed the higher placing of number two. Both Get Behind Me Satan and Icky Thump received Grammy Awards for Best Alternative Music Album." (twice both on the same para?)
- Peak chart positions = 16? (reduce to 10; both albums & singles!)
- " — " denotes releases that did not chart. → "—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that country.
- Remove the excess space in the column certifications. (ex. US:__Gold)
- Formats → Format
- Videos → Video albums
- Music Video → Title
- References (needs a big cleanup)
- "The White Stripes - Music Charts". acharts. Retrieved on 2008-07-24. (??????)
Cannibaloki 01:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Couple of things. All are done besides the excess spaces in column certifications (As I'm not sure why they do that, and if the most minor of superficial issues like that stops it reaching FL, I'll be gutted) and the reducing the chart thing. If I recall correctly, this failed last time due to that very issue regarding the amount of chart positions. And since then I've seen so many articles make FL with the same amount of positions in their charts. It seems the discussion didn't actually make a difference and it's still a matter of personal opinion. Red157 12:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- One question: If you had +30 positions to write on the table of albums & singles, you will write all? Cannibaloki 16:12, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well I don't think anything approaching 30 would be able to fit on the page. 16 looks fine and as I've mentioned, has been the amount present on other FL discographies. Red157 17:08, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- One question: If you had +30 positions to write on the table of albums & singles, you will write all? Cannibaloki 16:12, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment
- I don't know if it's due to dilution since we see the same style of discogs here all the time, but WP:FL? says the lead needs to be engaging. This just seems like it's been taken from any one of the already featured lists, with the band name and albums replaced by the ones for The White Stripes. For me, to "exemplifies our very best work" doesn't mean to copy/paste what is already featured; we shouldn't be afraid to try something new once in a while. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 03:25, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- If I was to turn each paragraph into a series of haiku's, would the FL criteria be compromised? As it's certainly something new. Red157 13:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 18:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
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My entry for the FLC contest. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 07:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose—Cr. 6. While Japanese script has its own beauty, here, it's denigrated by being turned into an agent of extreme clutter. Instead, it's ugly. Please remove it all—this is for English speakers; there's a Japanese WP too. Tony (talk) 11:30, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I absolutely disagree. The original media was in Japanese, and we should display it. Take the issue up with WP:ANIME, and I'll remove it only with consensus from there (and this would entail removing the kanji from all other episode and chapter lists). — sephiroth bcr (converse) 19:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Also disagree with this oppose. We do not ignore the original language just because this is the English Wikipedia. All anime and manga articles include the original Japanese for titles, episodes, characters, and chapters. As Sephiroth noted, if feel this should be removed from every last, it should be taken up with both the anime and manga project and the Japanese project. As it is, this is in keeping with all relevant guidelines. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 16:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Otherwise sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Not that I did not evaluate the non-English sources. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:29, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed the deadlink. Thanks for checking. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 19:24, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Prose looks good in the lead. Gary King (talk) 18:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments, since only one volume has been released in English yet, I'm guessing the other English titles are all unofficial translations? This should probably be noted somewhere. Volume 13's summary seems a little short compared to the rest? Why isn't the anime adaptation mentioned in the lead? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 16:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- English titles in Yen Press are still the same I believe, so I don't think it's necessary. The volume 13 summary is short because that's basically all that happens. Think of your typical shōnen manga series. And added a mention of the anime to the lead. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 19:19, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Alrighty, looks good and understandable on #13. Only other question would be should the "Chapters not yet in tankōbon format" be sourced (presumably to the Yen Press issues they were published in? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 19:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Not necessary per precedent with past lists and their respective nominations. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 19:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Good to know. :) Minor note, but that section uses the term tankōbon, but the lead pipes it with "bound volumes" which isn't consistent. Otherwise, all looks good. Sources are fine, prose reads well, don't see any unsourced stuff. So Support. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 19:33, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed last comment. Thanks, — sephiroth bcr (converse) 19:36, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
- "The series follows the adventures of three meisters, students at a school called Shibusen who utilize demon weapon companions with human and weapon forms." Unclear, are meisters "students at a school called Shibusen" or "students who utilize demon weapon companions with human and weapon forms"?
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Maka Albarn and her weapon partner Soul Eater manage to gather the souls of ninety-nine evil humans, and only need the soul of a witch to turn Soul Eater into a death scythe. They manage to find a witch and defeat her; however, she is a magical cat, and Shinigami confiscates all of Maka's souls." Repetition of "manage to".
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "a swordsman so powerful his soul is the equivalent of ninety-nine souls"-->a swordsman whose soul is the equivalent of ninety-nine souls. Additionally, I think you might enclose this info in em dashes rather than commas as this interruption in flow is rather sharp.
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Shibusen has a major examination" Isn't Shibusen the school? How can a school take a test?
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Soul, Kid, and Black Star
allfail the test, Maka scores the highest in the class" Why is it surprising that Maka scores well on the test even though the aforementioned three fail?
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Shibusen holds a celebration to mark the anniversary of its creation." Again, if Shibusen is a school, then founding would be a better word than "creation".
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Medusa stages an attack on Shibusen with Eruka, five members of the Mizune family, Crona, and Free
in orderto awaken the original kishin, Asura, who is imprisoned underneath Shibusen."
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Maka detects a presence inside one of Giriko's golems, and it is revealed to be a witch, Arachne, who Shinigami defeated in the past."-->Maka detects a presence inside one of Giriko's golems. The presence is revealed to be a witch, Arachne, whom Shinigami defeated in the past.
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Medusa's remains enter a small girl, who Medusa uses as her host." "who"-->whom.
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "
in orderto increase Stein's insanity."
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Death Scythe tells Stein that he believes that he is not the killer"—Ambiguous, too many "he"'s.
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "he is able to fully utilize Tsubaki's demon"—"utilize"-->use.
- Fixed. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dabomb87 (talk) 22:09, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Think that's it. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, I have never heard of Soul Eater, but it was easy to understand. Sources are okay.Tintor2 (talk) 00:30, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, Having been working with this article for a while now, I'm pleased to see it reach such high quality, especially with the chapter summaries.--十八 00:45, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, Seems like a solid piece of work. Doceirias (talk) 03:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 18:03, 22 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
previous FLC (20:02, 8 September 2008)
Well, I've waited around a month since the last FLC, given it several lookovers and I can't find anything else wrong. So, here is is again :) NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 02:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Current ref 5 is lacking a publisher
- Otherwise sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Are there any negative reviews at all?
- We couldn't seem to find any, even last time around. NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 21:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Since the Pulcinella Awards do not have an article, you should explain what it is they honour
- Link to Annie Awards
- Each episode only has one director, so the (s) doesn't need to be there in the header
- Why "Information obtained from TVShowsOnDVD.com on September 6, 2008." and "Information obtained from Amazon.com on August 06, 2008."? Just use the reference
- I, uh, dunno. Doing... NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 21:38, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 21:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Some ref formatting is needed. Websites shouldn't be italicised. For example, Ref [1]: ""Avatar Sneak Peak". Nick.com. Nickelodeon. Retrieved on 2008-05-29." you can remove "Nick.com" completely and keep "Nickelodeon" as the publisher. You should link them when they have articles, too
- Done. I think? NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 21:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Same with "Amazon.co.uk. Amazon.com, Inc." Remove "Amazon.co.uk"
Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 16:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- Unless the season is officially titled "Season One", don't refer to it as such. It is misleading. Just call it the "first season" and "this season", etc. but not "Season One".
- I dunno about this, but I changed it to: "The first season (Book One: Water) of Avatar: The Last Airbender..." NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 21:46, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Later changed to "Season One (Book One: Water)"
- "best animated television series" – is this an official title? If so, then capitalize the words. If not, then is it just original research?
Gary King (talk) 17:17, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- "Pole, attempting" – "Pole and attempt"
- They are going to the North Pole to find a teacher who lives there, so I think it is good at present. NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 22:04, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "attempting" is not a verb; it is a noun. "attempting to find a Waterbending master to teach Aang and Katara" has no verb. Gary King (talk) 01:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It can be either. In this particular case, it is a verb meaning "to try." *SIGN* 03:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "attempting" is not a verb; it is a noun. "attempting to find a Waterbending master to teach Aang and Katara" has no verb. Gary King (talk) 01:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- They are going to the North Pole to find a teacher who lives there, so I think it is good at present. NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 22:04, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "In the 2005 Pulcinella Awards, which gives awards for excellence in animation, Season One won "Best TV Series"." – "Season One won "Best TV Series" at the 2005 Pulcinella Awards, which gives awards for excellence in animation."
- "In addition to awards, it attracted more than a million viewers each time the network aired a new episode, and earned the title of "Best Animated Television Series" in the boys 9–14 year old demographic." – a generally confusing sentence. How is awards related to how many viewers the season has had? "It" should probably be changed to "Season One" so that it does not seem like it's implying the "Pulcinella Awards". It should probably be reworded to something like "each episode had more than a million viewers"
- Reworded to "Each episode of Season One attracted more than a million viewers each time the network aired a new episode.Season One won "Best TV Series" and "Best Animated Television Series" in the boys 9-14 year old [[demographic]] at the 2005 Pulcinella Awards, which gives awards for excellence in animation.<ref name="Pulcinella" />" NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 22:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gary King (talk) 00:22, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:48, 22 October 2008 (UTC) [reply]Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
- "Season One (Book One: Water) of Avatar: The Last Airbender, an American animated television series on Nickelodeon, began airing on February 21, 2005, and ended on December 2, 2005, with twenty episodes aired." How about: "Season One (Book One: Water) of Avatar: The Last Airbender, an American animated television series on Nickelodeon, aired 20 episodes from February 21, 2005 to December 2, 2005."
- I like it. (yours, not the one that was in the article) *SIGN* 03:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "The series was created by Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko[3]" Inline citation needs to be outside punctuation.
- "The season focuses on the protagonist, Aang, and his friends Katara and Sokka as they journey to the North Pole
, attemptingto find a Waterbending master to teach Aang and Katara." Delete the comma as well.
- Done Makes sense, especially seeing the contention over it.*SIGN* 03:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "boys 9-14 year old" En dash instead of hyphen.
- "Zach Tyler Eisen and Mae Whitman provided the voices of protagonists Aang and Katara, while Jack DeSena was Sokka's voice." "while"-->and, it is additive information.
- What about "with"? *SIGN* 03:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- How would that work? Write how you would phrase the sentence. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Zach Tyler Eisen and Mae Whitman provided the voices of protagonists Aang and Katara, with Jack DeSena as Sokka's voice." Or something very similar. *SIGN* 03:33, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sure. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:37, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Zach Tyler Eisen and Mae Whitman provided the voices of protagonists Aang and Katara, with Jack DeSena as Sokka's voice." Or something very similar. *SIGN* 03:33, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- How would that work? Write how you would phrase the sentence. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- What about "with"? *SIGN* 03:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Dante Basco and Mako starred as antagonists Zuko and Iroh,[3] though their role in the show would
begin tochange near the end of the season."
- "9–14-year old" Why does this instance have a hyphen but the previous example of this phrase didn't?
- Dunno, which is the correct one? *SIGN* 03:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Will look this up tomorrow. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- From what I've seen, use the hyphenated version.
- Don't they both have hyphens? *SIGN* 23:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I was referring to the one above this. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:35, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Don't they both have hyphens? *SIGN* 23:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- From what I've seen, use the hyphenated version.
- Will look this up tomorrow. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Dunno, which is the correct one? *SIGN* 03:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "as well as attracting many age and gender grops in its pool of 1.1 million viewers who watch each new episode.-->and has attracted many age and gender groups in its pool of 1.1 million viewers of each new episode.
- "a race of people that were believed to have been deceased for 100 years." For 100 years or 100 years ago?
- "Meanwhile, Zuko, banished Prince of the Fire Nation," Needs a the before "banished".
- "is patrolling the seas looking for the Avatar"-->is patrolling the seas in search of the Avatar.
- "who ban any sort of Earthbending"-->which bans any sort of Earthbending.
- Isn't "who" the proper term here? Because people banned earthbending... *SIGN* 23:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, "Fire Nation" is not a person. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:35, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Isn't "who" the proper term here? Because people banned earthbending... *SIGN* 23:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Aang has to travel to the Fire Temple
in orderto receive the message from Avatar Roku on the Winter Solstice.
- "When Aang leaves the sanctuary, he is attacked by Zhao and the Sages, who are all defeated when Aang manifests the spirit of Roku, who destroys the temple." Repetition of "who".
- "Aang sets off to a nearby herbalist institute in hopes of finding a cure for his friends." "sets off"-->goes.
- "Katara, Aang and Sokka to go into a village who relies solely on the predictions of a fortuneteller."-->Katara, Aang and Sokka go into a village that relies solely on the predictions of a fortuneteller.
- "Sokka, Aang and Katara locate a seemingly abandoned Water Tribe fleet ship" locate-->find.
- "The protagnonists travel into a Fire Nation town which is hosting a festival of Fire Nation culture. " Comma after town.
- "More importantly, he is a firebending master not with the Firelord." Means?
- "A storyteller tells the gang of "air walkers" at the Northern Air Temple." Tells what?
- "Unfortunately, the Fire Nation manages to recover the invention, a war balloon." "Unfortunately"-->However.
- "After the journey to the Northern Air Temple, the group lurk"—lurks.
- "Each DVD, with
onlyone exception"
- "In the United States, all Season One DVDs were encoded using NTSC. Since this is not compatible in most countries outside North America, Nickelodeon had a separate release for each DVD, where the video would be encoded using PAL instead. These releases began on February 19, 2007, with each DVD release occurring months after the original release. As with the original DVDs, each set contained four episodes on one disc, with the exception would be The Complete Book One Collection Box Set, which contained all of the twenty episodes in the season on five discs." Rewrite:
In the United States, all Season One DVDs were encoded using the NTSC (film?) standard. Since this standard is not compatible in most countries outside North America, Nickelodeon released separate DVDs in regions where the video would be encoded using PAL instead. These releases began on February 19, 2007; each DVD release occurred months after the original release. As with the original DVDs, each set contained four episodes on one disc, except for The Complete Book One Collection Box Set, which contained all of the twenty episodes in the season on five discs.
- NTSC is not standard. I have incorporated the other changes though. *SIGN* 23:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 03:58, 20 October 2008 [14].
I based the format of the article off of Boston Red Sox seasons which has FL status. All references are reliable, and featured list criteria appears to be meet. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 22:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - Looks good, but would it not be better to have a general reference for the season statistics. Sunderland06 (talk) 01:12, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Sources look good. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 02:43, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Fully support the avoidance of concealed year-in-X links—excellent. But why not exclude "the" from the blue? Also, "the 1998 baseball season" halfway through made me wonder whether the previous ones weren't baseball seasons. I'd remove "baseball" as assumed by now. If I were the nominator, I'd link only the first "year-season", which happens to be 1998, and let it stand out as the gateway into all of its siblings. That way, the lead would be less of a sea of blue. The third alternative would be one that is currently under discussion at MOSNUM: not linking these at all in the main text, but listing them in a "See also" section, where they're nicely centralised and prominent. I see an autoformatted date; these are deprecated now. Tony (talk) 11:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from RyanCross:
- Link MLB.com in reference #1.
- Question: Why is the publisher for reference 4 italicized while the publisher for reference 6 is not? They are the both from the same publisher anyway (Baseball-Reference).
- Re-formatted all references to be italicized and linked. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 22:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
– RyanCross (talk) 02:17, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
More...
- Delink publishers in references 2, 3, 5, and 6 – no need to overlink reference publishers. linking only once when the word is mentioned is enough.
- Support – Looks like it meets featured list criteria from here. Well done, – RyanCross (talk) 04:34, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 03:58, 20 October 2008 [15].
I feel that this list meets the Featured list criteria. It is fully sourced and has gone through three copy-edits. Of course things may have been missed, so any concerns will be addressed.
This FLC is a part of the Featured list contest. iMatthew (talk) 20:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- During every season of American Idol, the final round of competition features twelve singers.1 The American talent reality television series first aired in 2002, and as of December 2008, there have been seven seasons. - to follow the flow of other FL leads, it would be better to state these 2 sentences in a different way such as American Idol is an American talent reality television series that first aired in 2002, and as of December 2008, there have been seven seasons. During each season, the final round of competition features twelve singers, the finalists. Also, why is it December 2008?
- Overall, Carrie Underwood, season four winner, holds the record for the biggest-selling American Idol album, as more than six million copies were sold in the United States.[1] - this sentence just stands out, you say overall like if you already stated other album sales.
- Runner up should have a dash.
- In the pre FLC review you told me that the notes couldn't go vice versa, if you use {{ref}} and {{note}} it is possible, just saying.
--SRX 20:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All are done. iMatthew (talk) 20:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - I was waiting for you to contact me to revisit here, but I guess you didn't want my vote, after the resolved concerns, it meets WP:WIAFL.--SRX 20:59, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- Is http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/13980/irish-idol-smithsons-secret-past a reliable source?
- Sources look good otherwise. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Source replaced. iMatthew (talk) 21:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Suppport - With all of SRX's comments addressed, I see no reason why this shouldn't be a Featured list. Sunderland06 (talk) 01:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment
- You should wikilink all the hometowns to their original articles.
-- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 03:12, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Aren't they already? iMatthew (talk) 11:32, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Just click on them, I'll see that they are redirects. -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24[c] 18:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Done. iMatthew (talk) 18:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Just click on them, I'll see that they are redirects. -- SRE.K.A
- Comments
- A total of 106 contestants have made it to the top twelve (or ten) of their seasons. "Made it" → "reached".
- In the second season, finalist Corey Clark was disqualified after it was revealed that he had been arrested during the competition after he was charged with resisting arrest, battery upon his sister, and criminal restraint. Avoid using "after" twice in that sentence.
- Smithson remained on the show, and was placed sixth in her season. Remove "was".
–Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. iMatthew (talk) 18:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- Maybe you should clarify what state Camile Velasco lives in.
- Brooklyn, NY Any reason this is abbreviated, but no other states are?
- Albemarie, North Carolina, as a native North Carolianian, I can confirm that it is actually spelled Albemarle, North Carolina
- Why aren't town such as Albemarle, North Carolina; East Amherst, New York; Haiku, Maui; and Town & Country, Missouri linked?
--Mr.crabby (Talk) 18:04, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All are done. iMatthew (talk) 18:47, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose reluctantly for now Comments
- I removed the empty External links section; however, on second thought, I think you should re-add it, with a link to the season's webpage; if there isn't one dedicated to the season, then link to American Idol's website.
- "series first aired in 2002" – "series that first aired in 2002" – otherwise, the tense just jumps from present to past
- "2002, and as" – "2002. As"
- Sort the names by last name first; use {{sortname}}
- "the final round of competition featured twelve singers" – "the final round of competition features twelve singers" – since the show is still running
- "top twelve (or ten) of" – should be explained that some seasons have had top tens before this is mentioned
- See the first footnote in the sentence before that.
- Should be in the prose though; it can't be assumed that the reader will click on the footnote. At the worse case, it could be in brackets. Gary King (talk) 17:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- See the first footnote in the sentence before that.
- "Finalists for the show have never been younger than 16 years of age, or older than 29 years of age." – isn't this because they have rules that don't allow people outside of those ages to enter the competition? Should be mentioned
- There's a few more of these types of problems throughout the article. Ping me when they're done. Cheers!
Gary King (talk) 16:25, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Finalists for the show have never been younger than 16 years of age, or older than 29 years of age, as that is the show's age requirements." – rewrite as something like "16 to 29 is the show's age requirements"; that's the only point it needs to get across. People will infer from that that finalists can't be outside of those ages."biggest-selling " – "higehst-selling "; biggest and best aren't really comparable adjectives
- "as more " – "with more "
- "During season five, voters claimed that phone calls dialed for Chris Daughtry during the first few minutes of voting were misrouted to Katharine McPhee's lines, when they heard her recorded message thanking them for voting for McPhee." – why's this first in the paragraph if it's season five info?
Gary King (talk) 17:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done with everything. iMatthew (talk) 18:06, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
- Can you help me with your statement in lead which says: " The album sold 378 copies, and is now available on iTunes.[4]"? Your ref [4] seems to say " " the CD sold fewer than 400 copies in its first three months of release" which isn't quite what your statement says, nor does it mention iTunes...
- Why isn't MCA records linked?
- " the top twelve (or ten) of their seasons" - why not just "the final of their seasons" - or better? right now it reads awkwardly.
- "ages of 16 and 29 years of age" - age x 2
- "he had been arrested during the competition after he was charged" this sentence reads clumsily.
- "The age with the most contestants is 24, including no winners, and one runner-up." - this is awful - a trivial statement and "including no winners" - poor.
- Consistent linking of seasons in captions should be considered.
- It isn't already? iMatthew (talk) 19:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No. Check the lead image caption. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:30, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It isn't already? iMatthew (talk) 19:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Contestant's age at the time the season was filmed" - was the season filmed on one day? Are you sure none of the 106 had a birthday during the season? Just need to be more precise.
- Just one contestant without an article? Seems a shame...
- What should I do about that? Create the article? iMatthew (talk) 19:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Why not?The Rambling Man (talk) 19:30, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- What should I do about that? Create the article? iMatthew (talk) 19:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man (talk) 19:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I've addressed your concerns. iMatthew (talk) 19:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I got the image concern - and I'll try to get article going tonight, maybe expand it some and grab a DYK?;) Is that all? iMatthew (talk) 19:34, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support my concerns addressed. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:10, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 03:58, 20 October 2008 [16].
I have nominated the list as part of an expansion of other comparable lists. This one offers additional information about the reason that so few home games were played on Opening Day and other historical facts, along with an assortment of relevant images. Alansohn (talk) 01:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:01, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- Liván Hernández has the worst winning percentage as the Opening Day starting pitcher with a record of 0–3, all of which were pitched on the road. - worst is not adhering to a NPOV.
- 1981 Opening Day pitcher Steve Rogers, facing Phillies ace Steve Carlton, won the first game of the series by a score of 3&nash;1. - 1)facing' -->(should be) faced (for past tense) 2)typo in the em/endash.
- The score should be in a {{sort}} template.
- Why does one of the scores have {10 innings)?
- Which source is verifying the attendance?
--SRX 20:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Liván Hernández has the worst" -- Done, changed to "lowest"
- "1981 Opening Day pitcher Steve Rogers, facing" -- Done, 1) changed to "faced", other cleanup in tense, 2) nash fixed to ndash
- Why does one of the scores have {10 innings)? -- Reply, three of the games went into extra innings
- Which source is verifying the attendance? -- Reply, the second source in each entry, provides the game details, including stadium and attendance.
- The score should be in a {{sort}} template. -- Done Sort can be done based on number of runs scored by Expos/Senators. Alansohn (talk) 07:35, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from RyanCross:
- Consider making ref 1 just a general reference. - Done
- You probably don't need to link all Baseball-Reference and The New York Times words. Linking it the first time it is mentioned once is fine. - Reply my understanding per WP:REF is that the links to Baseball-Reference and The New York Times are appropriate, especially as rearranging portions of the article can change which appears first. I will be happy to make the change if this is what needs to be doen/
- Very well then. I was only using the idea from List of New York Mets Opening Day starting pitchers, a current FL. Thanks, – RyanCross (talk) 01:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Avoid small fonts – no need - Done
- Support – Looks good now. Thank you for your contributions, – RyanCross (talk) 01:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - It looks great. Only comment is that I think it would look better with the "Decision" column and probably the "Score" column centered.Rlendog (talk) 02:26, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Done both columns have been centered. Alansohn (talk) 03:42, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - Excellent job! Rlendog (talk) 00:39, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done both columns have been centered. Alansohn (talk) 03:42, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from K.Annoyomous
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Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 17:27, 18 October 2008 [17]. Hello, another Victoria Cross recipient list for your perusal. I think this meets all the criteria and follows in the wake of List of Zulu War Victoria Cross recipients. The New Zealand Land Wars is the name for a number of conflicts that occured in 1850–1870. So, here we go again, thanks for your time. Woody (talk) 16:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Support at least the List of Iraq War Victoria Cross recipients will be easier Jim Sweeney (talk) 10:07, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man (talk) 17:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Two suggestions:
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 17:27, 18 October 2008 [18]. This list is an overview of the various UEFA lists that I have contributed to over the past month and a bit. I'm hoping this list will eventually become a featured topic, as this list is the umbrella to the other sub articles. Thanks in advance for your comments NapHit (talk) 16:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 19:07, 14 October 2008 [19]. I have been improving this list in the past few days, and trying to meet up with the criteria. I think I have met the requirements now (hopefully). This is my first nom, so any advice, comments for improvement will be welcome. Chamal Talk ± 04:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments
Gary King (talk) 02:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
--Crzycheetah 04:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 19:07, 14 October 2008 [20]. previous FLC (18:30, 9 July 2008) I've been working on this on and off for six months. It has been through two FLCs, and I think it's ready now. Gary King (talk) 05:47, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments
Resolved comments from Rambo's Revenge Comments
Rambo's Revenge (talk) 20:43, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rambo's Revenge (talk) 15:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Wrt that added summary
I'm afraid that latest addition isn't enough, you'll need to be more precise about the criteria of inclusion for the list. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support with a final comment
Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Nergaal (talk) 22:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of universities in Ontario
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 19:07, 14 October 2008 [22]. Here's another one. Thanks, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gary King (talk) 00:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Support from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
Comments
-- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:10, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reply to Golbez and SatyrTN: MOS states that: "As a general rule, the first (and only the first) appearance of the page title should be as early as possible in the first sentence and should be in boldface". "2006 Pacific hurricane season" is not the page title, in fact, that is the title of another article. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments
Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 03:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Replies
Other stuff
Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:44, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
The Rambling Man (talk) 19:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 03:50, 13 October 2008 [23]. Nominating another episode list. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 00:58, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gary King (talk) 06:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 02:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 03:50, 13 October 2008 [24]. The next one in the series, which I now think meets FL criteria. It has recently undergone a peer review. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:18, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
Gary King (talk) 06:27, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gary King (talk) 15:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 03:50, 13 October 2008 [25]. Nominating another episode list. sephiroth bcr (converse) 04:28, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Note I did not evaluate the non-English sources. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comment The prose in the lead is good – I see you've taken my comments from the other list(s) and applied them here. I haven't taken a look at the prose for the episode summaries as I can only take so much anime reading. Gary King (talk) 06:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Support from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
Dabomb87 (talk) 02:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 02:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 03:22, 13 October 2008 [26]. previous FLC (01:14, 29 September 2008) After the disastrous first nom, I have improved the lead section, hopefully I have addressed every concern. A special thanks to User:Zagalejo who helped me copyedit the lead. —Chris! ct 21:42, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Resolved stuff from SRX
(→)How about New York Giants seasons as an example?--Crzycheetah 09:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Zagalejo
Resolved concerns from Orlady This is much improved since the previous FLC review. Congrats! However:
--Orlady (talk) 02:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC) My previous concerns about the lead have been resolved (sorry -- I tried to post this a couple of days ago, but the server didn't cooperate at that moment), but I have a couple of new minor issues with the article as it has evolved:[reply]
Resolved comments from TonyTheTiger A review of my FAC1 complaints is as follows:
Support My concerns have been addressed.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 03:22, 13 October 2008 [27]. Gary King (talk) 21:38, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Resolved comments from SRX
Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:53, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Coments-Generally looks good, so Support ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 00:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comment - I generally agree. Looks in mint condition for having only been created five days ago. --Candlewicke (Talk) 01:46, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 03:22, 13 October 2008 [28]. This one has been ready to go for about a month, but I've been waiting due to stability concerns because the games were just recently finished and there could still be some changes in the standings. The page is now stable and thus meets that part of the criteria. As always, any concerns will be addressed by me. -- Scorpion0422 15:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Support Excellent job. Just one thing: "The 2008 Summer Olympics medal table is a list of National Olympic Committees (NOCs) ranked by..." seems like a variation of "This is a list of so-and-so..."—unless "medal table" is an official term. Otherwise I find no faults. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:58, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gary King (talk) 06:11, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The caption on the map refers to the image itself, so there is probably a better caption that consists of good alt text.--User:2008Olympianchitchatseemywork 23:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 03:22, 13 October 2008 [29]. previous FLC (01:14, 29 September 2008) Should be good to go ago. Co-nominating with Red157. Gary King (talk) 22:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 20:11, 11 October 2008 [30]. I am nominating this article because I think it fulfills the FL criteria, in addressing said subject. It is modeled after Virginia Tech Hokies football seasons, a featured list. Patriarca12 (talk) 00:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Resolved comments from SRX Comments
Further Comments
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
Gary King (talk) 06:58, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments addressed, thank you for taking the time to look through the article! Patriarca12 (talk) 14:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Excellent article.--User:2008Olympianchitchatseemywork 21:10, 10 October 2008 (UTC) Comment Any source for the number of ten-win seasons? --User:2008Olympianchitchatseemywork 16:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 20:11, 11 October 2008 [31]. I based the format of the article off of Boston Red Sox seasons which has FL status. All references are reliable, and featured list criteria appears to be meet. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 19:02, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Resolved comments from SRX
--SRX 23:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Further Comments
Comments - I'd like to see some things fixed before I support...
Other than that it looks good. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 09:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of universities in British Columbia Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Justice Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Blink-182
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 19:06, 7 October 2008 [32]. The format of this list is a straight crib from equivalent articles for other clubs which are already at FL, such as List of York City F.C. statistics and records, but please let me know if there's anything I still need to tweak....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments
Gary King (talk) 03:35, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support but you should fix...
Comments
Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 21:04, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Now comments dealt with, good work. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:30, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 19:06, 7 October 2008 [33]. After a long while, I'm bringing another episode list to FLC. sephiroth bcr (converse) 05:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:34, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] I haven't looked at the page yet, but is the title correct for the Japanese season pages? The American and British TV shows do simply "Bleach (season 3)" Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:21, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
Gary King (talk) 03:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of micronations
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 19:06, 7 October 2008 [34]. It's relatively short since her career wasn't exactly a success. I removed the B-sides and unreleased material based on the recommendation of MOS:DISCOG, but I don't have any objection to adding them back in if people think there's not enough material there. PiracyFundsTerrorism (talk) 23:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Resolved issues from SRX
Comments
Weak support
Oppose - mainly references...
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 19:06, 7 October 2008 [35]. I still have an FLC ongoing for the head coaches of the Calgary Flames, but after a complete reworking of this article over the past while, I believe this one is FL quality as well. It lists all players honoured by the league and team, for both individual and career achievements, during the 28 years the Calgary Flames have been around. Many images, easy to understand tables. (at least I think so. ;o] ) I look forward to all feedback. Resolute 02:38, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:46, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gary King (talk) 03:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose several "assumptions" in the prose are particularly worrying....
The Rambling Man (talk) 19:23, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from 2008Olympian (talk · contribs) I would think that you would need to add the players and awards (such as they are) from the Atlanta Flames as well, in light of Calgary's acknowledgment of the Atlanta Flames' history. --User:2008Olympianchitchatseemywork 23:39, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Further Comment In the Awards column of the tables, the name of the award should be left justified. For the longer names, the lack of justification makes them spread out awkwardly. (e.g., Art Ross, Lady Bing).--User:2008Olympianchitchatseemywork 01:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
-- K. Annoyomous24[c] 23:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Support By the way, thanks for making this article "Canadian" since I noticed that you put "honours", instead of "honors". Also by the way, I'm also Canadian. -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 02:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 05:44, 4 October 2008 [36]. Nominating another submission list. sephiroth bcr (converse) 02:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Note I was unable to check the non-English sources. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gary King (talk) 03:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose - redlinks, presentation and some phrasing...
The Rambling Man (talk) 19:02, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 05:44, 4 October 2008 [37]. Self-nomination. I have significantly contributed to the list and believe it meets all attributes of the featured list criteria. The discography follows the same format as Joel Turner discography, a featured list supported just a week ago. I'm willing to address all concerns and will check this candidacy several times a day. Thanks! Hpfan9374 (talk) 00:43, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:38, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Notify when done :)--SRX 00:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Shaidar_cuebiyar
Notify when done :)--Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 13:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Comments
Notify when done :)-- Dan arndt (talk) 01:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Additional Comment
Resolved stuff from Cannibaloki Comments
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Support Looks much better now. Cannibaloki 03:02, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose - lead needs work, everything seems in order....
The Rambling Man (talk) 18:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support not keen on the placement of the references in the Singles table but other than that, no big problems. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 05:44, 4 October 2008 [38]. I am nominating this article because I think it fulfills the FL criteria, in addressing said subject. It is modeled after Virginia Tech Hokies football seasons, a featured list. Patriarca12 (talk) 23:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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--SRX 00:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Oppose
The Rambling Man (talk) 18:44, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Thank you for taking the time to make comments, as this is my first attempt at creating a FL. Please let me know what else may need to be addressed.Patriarca12 (talk) 02:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]Weak oppose
The Rambling Man (talk) 16:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support
The Rambling Man (talk) 16:12, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 05:44, 4 October 2008 [39]. I am right now going straight to a featured list nomination, and skipping the peer review, since I know this article is ready for this process. -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 02:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments - article looks very good. The only problem I have with it however is the format of the references. All other Opening Day starting pitcher articles have a reference column in the table, which I think is better and more specific than just having a list of "General References" at the bottom. Obviously this isn't set in stone and I'm interested in your opinion of the matter. Besides that however, the article looks great and I'll vote "support" after the reference thing is addressed. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 21:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support but you should fix...
The Rambling Man (talk) 10:33, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 16:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 05:44, 4 October 2008 [40]. I based the format of the article off of List of Seattle Mariners Opening Day starting pitchers which has FL status. All references are reliable, and featured list criteria appears to be meet. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 03:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Support Great work, well done NapHit (talk) 14:31, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Weak oppose
Yeah I like that better. Added results. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 21:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support good work on my comments. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
--Crzycheetah 04:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 16:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the "Key" section would do better as a part (or a sub-section) in the "Pitchers" section. iMatthew (talk) 20:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Gimmetrow 12:32, 4 October 2008 [41]. re-nominated. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 13:01, 15 September 2008 (UTC) previous FLC (16:20, 18 August 2008)[reply]
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The Rambling Man (talk) 08:08, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comment
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Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:54, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
SRX 00:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 05:44, 4 October 2008 [42]. I believe that the issues from the previous FLC were resolved in the PR. Specific comments are very welcomed. Nergaal (talk) 22:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC) [reply]Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs): Sources
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If it hasn't been addressed already, I will carry out the transcluding if noone else knows how to do it. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 01:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:19, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Rambo's Revenge (talk) 17:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 05:44, 4 October 2008 [43]. I am nominating this article with Chrishomingtang for featured list nomination as we both believe that this article is ready for this promotion. -- K. Annoyomous24[c] 19:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Resolved comments from SRX
--SRX 22:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Tony (talk) 08:29, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
-- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 18:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Since several people has commented about the flag or the nationality in different places, I will address this here again. Because of the numbers of foreign players, the nationality column and the flags can provided additional info to the readers. BTW MOS:FLAG allows the use of flags on table. —Chris! ct 18:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Not an actionable comment towards this list, but now that you've removed the flags in this list, you probably should remove the flags from the other awards lists for consistency. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:16, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 16:40, 2 October 2008 [45]. List is well researched & referenced. Dan arndt (talk) 00:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments - Needs a little attention to WP:MOS
Get these done and the article should be well on the way. Mrh30 (talk) 08:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Further comments Definite progress. Compare some of the other similar lists currently in the nomination procees, such as List of The Neptunes awards. That list has several key things that raise it above the Paul Kelly one currently.
Getting there! Mrh30 (talk) 11:51, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments
In summary, #1, #2 and #3 show that the website gives its sources and methods, the others either reinforce some of the claims made on the mvdbase website or show that it has a reputation for reliability.Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:47, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Telstra is an Australian telco which runs BigPond (an internet provider), they sponsor webspace for the Not For Sale Country Music Awards archive. The awards themselves are not determined by BigPond. The sponsor for the awards in 2000 was Toyota.Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:25, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 16:40, 2 October 2008 [46]. Here's my second FLC nomination, this one a seasons list from the franchise that my user name is based on. I'll be here to handle any concerns, but I believe this meets the standards now. Giants2008 (17-14) 19:27, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments
--Crzycheetah 20:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Weak oppose - odd formatting is the key for me.
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 16:40, 2 October 2008 [48]. I'm nominating this list for featured status as I believe that after a peer review which addresses many issues this list is now meets all the criteria necessary to become a featured list. Thanks in advance for your comments NapHit (talk) 17:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Note I was not able to evaluate the non-English sources. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:39, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support - please consider the following.
The Rambling Man (talk) 18:47, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] Responded to your queries, Cheers NapHit (talk) 15:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 20:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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