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Isn't the last sentence ''he enjoyed a long and peaceful retirement'' a bit [[WP:WEASEL]]y long by what standards? He died at 58 not a really that only and his retirement was only 15 years and peaceful is equally as vague [[User:Gnevin|Gnevin]] ([[User talk:Gnevin|talk]]) 09:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Isn't the last sentence ''he enjoyed a long and peaceful retirement'' a bit [[WP:WEASEL]]y long by what standards? He died at 58 not a really that only and his retirement was only 15 years and peaceful is equally as vague [[User:Gnevin|Gnevin]] ([[User talk:Gnevin|talk]]) 09:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

== USA! USA! USA! ==

I counted no less than six items on the main page relating to the United States or to Yankees today. Seriously? I expected better of this project. I assume Yank editors are working very hard to maintain this kind of ridiculous jingolism, which is woefully up to expectations, really. Keep it up and maybe soon we can change the name to 'Yankopedia'!

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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"improve his leadership" is a nonsense phrase that should be replaced with "consolidate power" or something along those lines. 174.89.130.46 (talk) 00:21, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure whether you are watching this page, Wehwalt. Schwede66 05:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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General discussion


Diamond Jubilee

Congratulations to the Commonwealth monarchists worldwide for successfully maintaining the quality and pulling off the timing of today's featured article. One single possible day -- not per year, at all! -- is an extremely difficult target to hit on a collaborative work. (And, sorry, but because I have had to explain it before - NOT sarcasm. Respect.) - Tenebris 02:27, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Should've been on February 6, not June 2. The timing is actually wrong. GoodDay (talk) 02:45, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but I guess the weather in London is pretty crappy around then. Not good for street parties. HiLo48 (talk) 03:18, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Today is the anniversary of the coronation. The accession would have been the anniversary of a very somber occasion, the death of King George VI. That's why 6 February was commemorated, but not celebrated. Coronations are delayed to allow for a proper period of mourning, after all. Imzadi 1979  04:16, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
But the Coronation was in 1953. 'Usual rearranging of dates for convenience.' On what date in 2015 will she reappear on the front page as '... the UK's longest reigning monarch'? Jackiespeel (talk) 09:45, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Diamond Jubilee is about the anniversary of the Queen's accession (her father's death), not the coronation. Many less familiar readers will believe she ascended the throne on June 2, 1952. They'll get the accession/coronation dates intertwined. GoodDay (talk) 12:17, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes...glorious weather for the past two weeks and then just as Jubilee comes along...BAM! And an FA is an FA; no matter how much you might dislike the subject that's not what makes it a good article. --Τασουλα (talk) 13:28, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
True about ascension rather than coronation ... but which one has always had the most global awareness? Which one will have the most coverage now? Call it the first televised truly mass media event, after the trial run of WWII. Or, if you prefer (for a happier example of waiting periods than periods of mourning), consider why the engagement never gains as much press as the wedding. On which day are the vows made? - Tenebris 15:55, 2 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.156.209 (talk)
Yes, today is not the anniversary of the accession day (though I think we posted it in ITN when it happened). However the various official celebrations are happening this weekend, celebrations of royal anniversaries are often set rather arbitrarily, and we're not telling the reader that this is the anniversary of the accession. Hut 8.5 16:48, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Les familiar readers could easily misundestand, though. GoodDay (talk) 19:04, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Especially those who inexplicably read too much in things they see .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.118.187 (talk) 17:40, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(reset) It is a normal part of such events that it rains. Jackiespeel (talk) 21:42, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

History tab is not keeping track of Main Page changes

I just looked at the 'History' tab of the Main Page and noticed that it is not keeping track of changes on the Main Page. When the semiprotected Main Page is changed by someone other than the ones generally producing it, that is recorded, however the page seems to appear to change about once every day, if not slightly more or less frequently, and those page changes are not recorded on the history tab. This provides no static reference to past changes and makes the article not list who changes it, and when. I think the main page should be archived like other pages so that someone can look up past versions of it. This should be kept on a tab, like the other tabs for other pages so that people can easily find it. It seems doubtful that it would take an infinite amount of memory in comparison with host of other pages that exist. It also seems doubtful that it is not already stored in memory on some computers at Wikipedia, it is simply not made accessible to the average user.67.206.186.61 (talk) 17:09, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, most of the text seen on the Main Page is from transcluded templates that rotate daily. This is partly used so the page content automatically changes at Midnight UTC instead of having someone manually do it. If you'd like to see past versions of the Main page, please go to Wikipedia:Main Page history. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:34, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Current Events/ Top Pages

I think the addition of articles with the most views this hour would be a good addition to the main page as a better news section. This shows what people really care about at the moment and does not have to be updated manually. It would make the main page a much better news source. Right now most of the articles on it are about the jubilee, which is not even mentioned on the main page. The following link shows the top 25 pages with most views this hour: http://inkdroid.org/wikitrends/. I did not see a good suggestion in the "forums above"; If there is a more appropriate section, I'll gladly move the request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.2.33.151 (talk) 21:45, 4 June 2012 (UTC) 76.2.33.151 (talk) 00:15, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that would make it better at all. It would simply document trends (I recall Game of Thrones being on that list last night, after the recent season finale) and trends are for Twitter, not Wikipedia. Also, who knows the quality of the articles that would end up being listed - currently articles need to have a minimum standard of quality/sourcing to appear on the main page. Our "In the news" section isn't perfect, but we are an encyclopedia more than anything else. OohBunnies! Leave a message 17:44, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We include interwiki links to Wikipedias containing more than 50,000 articles (which also must meet a minimum quality standard). Sorry! —David Levy 04:15, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On this Day - Early AIDS Cluster

The bold link should go directly to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_HIV/AIDS#1981:_From_GRID_to_AIDS since the early history of the disease is what's specifically being referenced. It's annoying to be linked to a page twice removed from the thing people are most likely going there to read about. --66.188.120.168 (talk) 10:37, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The fact in question is also at AIDS#History, so it's contained in the article located at the bold link. howcheng {chat} 15:50, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The transit of Venus, another piece of excellent timing

And yet another piece of perfect timing, for another very appropriately highlighted feature. (Just five hours away now.) Tell me, are there more extremely rare and important events than there used to be, or are passionate Wikipedians becoming extremely good at anticipating those events to make and protect the relevant articles in advance, so that they can be highlighted when the time comes? - Tenebris 17:18, 5 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.156.131 (talk)


Today's featured article is a bit WP:WEASELy

Isn't the last sentence he enjoyed a long and peaceful retirement a bit WP:WEASELy long by what standards? He died at 58 not a really that only and his retirement was only 15 years and peaceful is equally as vague Gnevin (talk) 09:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

USA! USA! USA!

I counted no less than six items on the main page relating to the United States or to Yankees today. Seriously? I expected better of this project. I assume Yank editors are working very hard to maintain this kind of ridiculous jingolism, which is woefully up to expectations, really. Keep it up and maybe soon we can change the name to 'Yankopedia'!