Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Transport

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Portal:Transport

A Transport Portal has been created. Interested parties are invited to collaborate on its maintenance.--cj | talk 14:23, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Activity

What exactly goes on in this project? Simply south 15:12, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Missing topics

I have a list of missing topics about vehicles and transportation. I've tried to find any similar articles but I'd appreciate if somebody else could have a look at the list. Thank you - Skysmith 12:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

DOT???

I am curious what people think about state DOT articles and if they fit into the Highway project of some other subcategory of Transport. None that I have seen are under any sort of transport category, but it seems they should fit somewhere. Tell me what you guys think. Polypmaster 04:53, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

New WikiProject: buses

I have created WikiProject buses to manage articles about buses and bus routes, including their history as streetcar lines. --NE2 18:21, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

CFD Port categories

Hi. I have kicked off a serious CFD about port categories. Any comments/input appreciated. Frelke 07:05, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

What does Wikiproject transport do?

The scope on the project page of this wikiproject doesnt really specifiy what this wikiproject does. Can I please ask what the wikipoject does do. The project seems to be quite inactive as it just has descendant projects which covers everything within the field of transport. ThanksTbo 157 14:05, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Peer review requested

Hi. Ruth Kelly is up for peer review here. Your comments are welcome. SP-KP 18:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

More DOT

A considerable amount of time has been spent on the Ohio Department of Transportation article, and it is now a GA class article. Since it is the only DOT article that is close to complete, I would like to know what type of improvements it still needs. I don't know of any particular format it should follow, but that would also be nice to know to add more information. Thanks. Polypmaster 21:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Parents and descendants

I just began a discussion on parentage and descendants at Wikiproject Civil Engineering which may be of interest to editors within this Wikiproject. I would be very interested to hear your comments, but to keep the discussion in one place I ask that you please post comments within the aforementioned discussion. Thanks! --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 00:35, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject UK Trams

Hi! WikiProject UK Trams has now been started at WP:UK Trams, and I wondered if anyone was interested in joining. We aim to expand Wikipedia's coverage of UK Trams and Tram Systems. Please help! There is also a portal at P:UKT. Bluegoblin7 19:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Operating speed

Should Operating speed be merged into Speed limit? What do you think? —METS501 (talk) 16:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think they should be merged. They cover 2 different topics. Tbo ¹⁵⁷talk 16:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the super-quick response. I agree with you, but a user asked on my talk page about possibly merging so I came here. —METS501 (talk) 16:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Happy editing. Tbo ¹⁵⁷talk 16:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Air Transport in the United Kingdom

Hi. Just dropping a line to say that I created a new article; Air Transport in the United Kingdom, which seems relevant to this project, if anyone is interested in helping out. --FactotEm 15:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Nautical Project Proposal

I have proposed a Nautical Project which has been briefly discussed at Portal:Nautical. Huge gaps in what the related projects cover. Comments welcome, preferably at the proposal page.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 21:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Notice of List articles

Page(s) related to this project have been created and/or added to one of the Wikipedia:Contents subpages (not by me).

• List of basic transport topics
• List of basic vehicle topics

This note is to let you know, so that experts in the field can expand them and check them for accuracy, and so that they can be added to any watchlists/tasklists, and have any appropriate project banners added, etc. Thanks. --Quiddity 20:31, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Greenspun illustration project: requests now open

Dear Wikimedians,

This is a (belated) announcement that requests are now being taken for illustrations to be created for the Philip Greenspun illustration project (PGIP).

The aim of the project is to create and improve illustrations on Wikimedia projects. You can help by identifying which important articles or concepts are missing illustrations (diagrams) that could make them a lot easier to understand. Requests should be made on this page: Philip_Greenspun_illustration_project/Requests

If there's a topic area you know a lot about or are involved with as a Wikiproject, why not conduct a review to see which illustrations are missing and needed for that topic? Existing content can be checked by using Mayflower to search Wikimedia Commons, or use the Free Image Search Tool to quickly check for images of a given topic in other-language projects.

The community suggestions will be used to shape the final list, which will be finalised to 50 specific requests for Round 1, due to start in January. People will be able to make suggestions for the duration of the project, not just in the lead-up to Round 1.

• General information about the project: m:Philip_Greenspun_illustration_project
• Potential illustrators and others interested in the project should join the mailing list: mail:greenspun-illustrations

thanks, pfctdayelise (talk) 12:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC) (Project coordinator)

2 new wikis for Planes and Trains

Hello readers of WikiProject Transport!

I was just wondering if anyone would be interested in helping out with Plane Spotting World or Train Spotting World, two new wikis for all sorts of stuff!

Please let me know here of there if you're interested!

Bluegoblin7 19:41, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Any interest in creating a "child" WikiProject on "Trucks" ?

I've noticed that there is no WikiProject to consolidate articles on transport wheeled vehicles as: Trucks/Lorries, Vans, UTEs, etc. Does anybody know why? Wouldn't it be useful? Is there anyone interested in creating it? (not being an expert or educated user in that matter, I cannot volunteer to do that). Thanks and Regards, DPdH (talk) 03:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Need input on a CfR

I recently nominated Category:Abandoned stations for renaming. A discussion about the most appropriate name for the category and about the scope of the category has arisen. I would like to ask the members of this WikiProject for their take on this, at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 January 18#Category:Abandoned stations. Aecis^Brievenbus 23:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Reminder of the Philip Greenspun Illustration project

Hi. You may be familiar with the Philip Greenspun Illustration Project. $20,000 has been donated to pay for the creation of high quality diagrams for Wikipedia and its sister projects.

Requests are currently being taken at m:Philip Greenspun illustration project/Requests and input from members of this project would be very welcome. If you can think of any diagrams (not photos or maps) that would be useful then I encourage you to suggest them at this page. If there is any free content material that would assist in drawing the diagram then it would be great if you could list that, too.

If there are any related (or unrelated) WikiProjects you think might have some suggestions then please pass this request over. Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 16:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Good article nomination backlog

There's still a significant backlog of transport articles at wp:good article nominations. We do not have enough regular reviewers to deal with all the nominations received, and unfortunately certain topics seem to suffer more than others. The good news is that the review process is relatively simple and any registered user is more than welcome to participate. If you'd like to help out, simply pick an article you haven't contributed to from the list and see if it meets every good article criteria. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the good article nominations talk page or even directly on my talk page. --jwanders^Talk 21:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Rename proposal for the lists of basic topics

This project's subject has a page in the set of Lists of basic topics.

See the proposal at the Village pump to change the names of all those pages.

The Transhumanist 10:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

A discussion

An important discussion on " Should WikiProjects get prior approval of other WikiProjects (Descendant or Related or any ) to tag articles that overlaps their scope ? " is open here . We welcome you to participate and give your valuable opinions. -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - , member of WikiProject Council. 14:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Bus company article project talk sub-page created

See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Transport/Bus articles. MickMacNee (talk) 15:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Category:Railway accidents and Category:Road accidents

Following a discussion here regarding the placement of bombings in various "accidents" categories, I would like to suggest that Category:Railway accidents and Category:Road accidents (and all relevant subcategories) be renamed to Category:Railway accidents and incidents (or Category:Railway incidents) and Category:Road accidents and incidents (or Category:Road incidents), respectively. This change would bring these categories in line with Category:Aviation accidents and incidents, and would expand their scope to include not only accidents but also deliberate attacks on rail and road infrastructure. Thoughts or comments would be most appreciated. Thank you, –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 15:58, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Transport

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Air transport in Alaska

There have been several AfDs lately involving aviation in Alaska that have raised concerns as to what constitutes an "airline" for purposes of Wikipedia articles. I have initiated a discussion here, and any and all input would be most welcome. Thanks! Beeblebrox (talk) 23:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Capacity, throughput and ridership

Wikipedia doesn't appear to have any article that I could find covering the topics of capacity, throughput, and ridership, including related acronyms like pph (pax per hour), pphpd (pax per hour per direction), etc. Would Capacity (transportation) be a good name?

Definitions of "capacity" as starting points:

The maximum traffic flow designation for a segment of roadway or a lane, within the control conditions for that particular segment of roadway or lane, usually expressed in "persons per hour" or "vehicles per hour". [1] (car-oriented)

The ability, in a given time, of a resource measured in quality and quantity. The quantity of goods which can be stored in or loaded into a warehouse, store and/or loaded into a means of transport at a particular time. [2] (NB: freight-oriented) Jpatokal (talk) 06:41, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Turns out a Passengers per hour per direction article exists! I still think it should be expanded to be a little more general. Jpatokal (talk) 02:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Greater Manchester Transport Innovation Fund (TiF)

Hello,

The Greater Manchester Transport Innovation Fund (TiF) and corresponding congestion charging in Greater Manchester are in dire need of attention from experts at WP:TRANSPORT. The issues within the articles have gone to referendum (closing mid-December) and so Wikipedia's repuation would be bolstered if we had proffessional coverage.

Is there anyone willing and able to help improve these pages? Hope so, --Jza84 |  Talk  16:44, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Unbelievable ommission

I'm sure there's some sort of historical reasons, but I'm totally shocked that this project can use a Truck driver article as it's {{main}} article in Transport and further amazed no one has ever stubbed in trucking terminal or Trucking industry (edit talk links history) (Which I just made as a redirect combo, stub). Feel free to expand it. Three days without trucking and most of us in the developed world would find no groceries in the local stores. Go three more days, and most of us start going hungry. Don't you think such an important industry deserves some coverage. Last I looked, the factory with the railway spur was pretty much gone. Sheesh! // FrankB 00:37, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group

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Portal:Roads

The World Roads Portal is at Peer Review, if any editors know of any articles, images, news items or DYKs which could be added to the Portal, please add them directly to the portal or contact ....SriMesh | talk 01:13, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

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F1 Portal up for Featured portal status

Here. Any and all (relevant) comments welcome. I do realise that this Wikiproject is only marginally associated with F1 (I may be the only person who drives a Williams FW19 to work), but all the same, the more the merrier. Apterygial 05:27, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Joseph-Armand Bombardier

Joseph-Armand Bombardier was requested to be speedily deleted, then proposed for deletion. I have removed the PROD request. 76.66.193.69 (talk) 04:44, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD: Metropolitan Travel Survey Archive

I have nominated this article for deletion. I'm asserting that the notability of the subject has not been demonstrated. Also, the issue has been compounded because I think there is a WP:COI issue with the article's main editor, who is also an admin. Please weigh in. Thank you. ~Pesco^{So say•we all} 22:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Template:Future public transportation up for deletion

I have nominated Template:Future public transportation for deletion at Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2009_May_7#Template:Future_public_transportation, please add your thoughts. My view is that the vast majority of public transportation projects currently tagged with this do not qualify under the rules of Wikipedia:Current and future event templates ("warn readers about the fast-changing or speculative nature of the article"). Jpatokal (talk) 03:44, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Ford

FYI, Ford Motor Company → Ford - a WP:RM rename request has been filed. The discussion is occuring at Talk:Ford Motor Company. As ford is a word that is related to your wikiproject, this is an informative notice.

70.29.208.129 (talk) 06:05, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Panama Canal

I have nominated Panama Canal for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. DrKiernan (talk) 16:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Merger of alternative fuels in buses into sustainable transport

The current alternative fuels in buses article is biased and I'm not sure if it should be a stand-alone article anyways. Should it be merged with sustainable transport? Please discuss on the article's talk page. Thanks, Pdcook (talk) 03:52, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement

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Help needed

Editor Hectorthebat has made several articles about roads/railways in Norway and the articles have major MOS/cleanup issues. I don't know anything of Wikipedia's guidelines regarding roads and railways, so could someone look at them? Recent examples include: Riksvei 171, Riksvei 174, Riksvei 181, Sand, Akershus, Riksvei 120 and Riksvei 22. Thanks, PDCook (talk) 02:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

New editor needs assistance with first article

I am soliciting support from this project's members to lend a hand to a new editor User Talk:Commvolunteer and their first article Virginia Canals and Navigations Society. The article was PRODed but no one has attempted to help this editor or article. Certainly a 33 year society has recieved sufficient coverage in 3rd party sources to support notability. This editor just needs help finding them. Thanks--Mike Cline (talk) 21:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

List of missing vehicle topics

I've updated my list of missing vehicle topics - Skysmith (talk) 12:19, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Road tax rename

FYI, Road tax has been nominated for renaming. 70.29.208.247 (talk) 13:04, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

China National Highway 110 traffic jam deletion discussion

Article China National Highway 110 traffic jam is up for deletion discussions. Express your opinion if you have something to contribute. --Kslotte (talk) 19:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Rename

• Category:Transportation disasters by country -> Category:Transport disasters by country - match the individual article names, match Commons
• Category:Transportation in Asia -> Category:Transport in Asia - match majority of subcategories, match Commons
  • Iraq, Iran, Indonesia, South and North Korea should be renamed too
• Category:Transportation by country -> Category:Transport by country - match majority of subcategories, match Commons

TruckCard (talk) 21:14, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Transport articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

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We would like to ask you to review the Transport articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

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Transportation in the Soviet Union created

I've created this page, and I'm looking for some help. Are any of you interested in helping a fellow wikipedia contributor? If so, reply. --TIAYN (talk) 20:43, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Boats

FYI, there is a proposal for a WP:BOATS to cover watercraft that are smaller than those bannered by WP:SHIPS. As several watercraft articles have been debannered from WPSHIPS, it seems appropriate that there be a wikiproject to cover these articles. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Boats

76.66.199.238 (talk) 08:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, just wanted to note that I have responded to this comment on the page linked to in the comment above, Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Boats. I go into more detail there, but to summarize, I proposed the creation of Wikiproject Boating as a compromise, which would subsume related dormant WikiProjects as Wikipedia taskforces under the broader Wikiproject Boating. These proposals are similar to what has been done in WikiProject Food and Drink. Anyways, if you’re interested check it out and as always I welcome any feedback or further suggestions. Thanks for your time, Henryscobie (talk) 20:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Category hype

Categories on transportation accidents are hyped up to "disasters" as you go up the line in categorization. I have recategorized CSX 8888 incident and Category:Maritime incidents so they roll up into categorized "incidents" all the way up the line. Before, it rolled up into "accident" categories, which, in turn, rolled up into "Disaster" categories! While I have changed it for these few incidents (for CSX for 2001 only, for example), many other categories need to be defined to replace ones that wrongly promote into worse-sounding categories.

Note that Aviation was particularly careful in defining its categories to "accidents and incidents" (see for example [3] Category:Aviation accidents and incidents but nonetheless, these too are rolled up into "disasters" further up the line. Student7 (talk) 14:03, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't think this is a case of 'hype', as you claim, but rather lack of better terminology. I'd personally prefer "Disaster" to "Incident"; you claim "disaster" is too strong, but I'd claim "incident" is too weak - see, for example, the definition of "incident". You're proposing a fairly substantial re-categorization of tons of articles - which I see you've already started making changes on. Mlm42 (talk) 17:33, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I see what you're doing now; putting them under Category:Incidents, as a term for things that weren't disasterous, but were significant because maybe they could have been disasterous. Actually, that sounds like a good idea to me, but yes, a lot of work. By the way, shouldn't Category:Disasters be a subcategory of Category:Incidents? Mlm42 (talk) 17:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Mlm42 makes an excellent point which I hadn't considered.

I introduced several dozen categories about 5% of what is needed. I am not a transport person! So have resigned after "fixing" the one or two articles/categories I eye-balled. Good luck!  :) Student7 (talk) 14:31, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Some of which got erased! So the hypers are ahead 6 to 0. Student7 (talk) 23:27, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Tracked vehicle up for deletion

FYI, Tracked vehicle has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.202.72 (talk) 04:43, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Transport Category renaming

For anyone interested - note that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_December_13#Transport_categories is current SatuSuro 13:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Alleyway

The usage of alleyway is under discussion, see Talk:Alleyway#Requested_move -- 65.95.14.34 (talk) 08:39, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Maritime Transport task force

Hi. I've opened a discussion for converting Wikipedia:WikiProject Maritime Trades to a task force of Wikipedia:WikiProject Transport with a name along the lines of "Maritime Transport task force". The discussion is here and comments are welcome. Cheers. Haus^Talk 09:36, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Without distracting attention from the discussion linked above, I propose the same thing for the seaports wikiproject, which is entirely comprised of maritime transport articles but is languishing for want of new members or wider interest. I've started a similar discussion to Haus' one here - I think an ideal outcome would be for the Maritime Trades and the Ports WikiProjects to be combined as a WikiProject Transport taskforce covering all aspects of maritime trade activities including the shore-based port infrastructure and management. - Euryalus (talk) 11:31, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

For the record, I strongly support Euryalus' suggestion. Cheers. Haus^Talk 11:34, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Taipei Metro EMU C371

I can't find any sources on Google. Help? Thanks. Perseus, Son of Zeus 23:39, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

{{Metlink Display}} nominated for deletion

This is related to Melbourne bus routes. See Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:Metlink_Display --Kleopatra (talk) 16:28, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Ken Colyer

Why is this article, about a Jazzman, in this WikiProject? --Bduke (Discussion) 21:06, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Because he's in Category:British Merchant Navy personnel. Cheers. Haus^Talk 21:13, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, it is up to you lot, but it does not seem to be a defining or important point about the man. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Canals

Are canals within the scope of the Transport project? I see that the Panama Canal and the Suez Canal have the Transport template, but on the other hand the Erie Canal does not. Should I add the Transport template to the Erie Canal, or for that matter, defunct canals like the Leiper Canal? --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:03, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, this project seems a bit inactive.. but its Maritime transport task force is probably a natural place for canals. They seem to have their own banner. Mlm42 (talk) 23:44, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Canals, including historic canals are certainly part of maritime transport. You can add an article to the Maritime task force using the following syntax:

{{WikiProject Transport |class= |importance= |maritime = yes}}

. The other banner that currently exists is intended to be phased out when some design issues have been sorted out. Cheers. Haus^Talk 14:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Maritime transport is not quite right for the Erie Canal, unlike the Kiel Canal and other canals that take oceangoing ships. What do others think? --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Support for B-class checklist, peer-review in project banner

Reworking the Maritime Trades WikiProject as a task force of WP:TRANSPORT has suggested a couple of changes that could be made to the {{WikiProject Transport}} banner. I'd like to propose adding two features to the banner.

The first proposed change would be adding a "B-class checklist", like many other wiki-projects include in their banner, to help in assessing articles. With the checklist, the assessor is given some help in determining whether an article meets the B-class standard. Also, editors who want to improve an article, are given some feedback on what needs to be done to get the article to B-class.

Some projects define a C-class article as meeting a certain subset of the B-class criteria. For example, WP:SHIPS defines a C-class article as meeting criteria B3, B4, and B5.

The second proposed change would involve adding project-level support for peer-reviews. The advantage would be that, down the road, the main transport wikiproject and other task forces would have a shared peer-review page that members could watch.

Cheers. Haus^Talk 13:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Military history and other projects do this, and doing it for Transport would be an excellent idea. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I've added the B-class checklist & peer-review options into the banners sandbox version. -- WOSlinker (talk) 20:05, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Bratislava Metro

Hey guys-

I apologize for being one of those people that pops into an established WikiProject to ask a leading question (since I know they can be sometimes frustrating), but I'm afraid I'm going to be that guy. Is there anyone in the WikiProject who specializes at all in Metros? I've been trying to find some stuff on the Bratislava Metro under construction. [4] There are articles on the Czech and Slovak wikipedias about it, but nothing yet in English. matt91486 (talk) 18:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Proposed revisions to parking meter article

Over the past few weeks I have made some revisions to the Parking meter article that have primarily consisted of adding citations, removing uncited material, and some restructuring. I have also posted on the article’s Talk page discussing the proposed revisions and the problems with the article as I saw them, but the article as well as its Talk page appear to be fairly inactive at this time. In the spirit of WP:Bold I would like to move forward with another edit that would address certain WP:RS citation problems with the Chicago parking meter lease deal subsection and bring the material up to date. I have made efforts to keep my style of writing encyclopedic, provide reliable sources for the material, and adhere to Wikipedia’s policies and guidelines. To provide an example of these changes, I have posted my revised version of the article to my user page’s sandbox. Please feel free to take a look and provide any feedback you may have here, or on my user Talk page. Thanks for your time and happy editing! Henryscobie (talk) 13:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

After posting the above comment proposing edits to the Parking Meter article and providing what I felt was an adequate period of time for other editors to look over the revisions and provide feedback, I have gone ahead and implemented the revisions outlined above. As always, I recognize that Wikipedia is a work in progress and welcome any feedback or continued dialogue on these and other edits. Thanks for your time! Henryscobie (talk) 16:50, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Please review Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Tobey which concerns Aaron Tobey Richmond Airport 4th Amendment Naked Protest

and proposals being discussed there for a potential merged or more general additional article on US civilian aiport security regulation issues and public reactions, perspectives on and by foreign travelers, sociology, law, cultural phenomenology, and international context. The later detection of Fukushima radiation at US airports, which is not yet mentioned in this article, is also being discussed as a subtopic to be added into a general article. Separately from the 'criiticms' subsection on the US Transportation Security Administration alone.

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don't touch my junk is a second related AfD regarding another article which also presents a US airport bodily search protest.

A potential general article not only on protest but on efficacy, social context, and events which are of national and international note in these regards would also include breaking 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami and Fukushima I nuclear accidents news such as Japan radiation sets off O'Hare airport alarms -- CBS News Chicago station reports trace amounts of radiation clinging to flights from country ravaged by earthquake, tsunami:

"Trace amounts of radiation from Japan have been detected in Chicago, CBS News station WBBM-TV reports.

Travelers coming in from Japan on Wednesday triggered radiation detectors at O'Hare International Airport as they passed through customs. Only very small amounts of radiation were detected.

...Feds move more radiation monitors to West Coast...

"We are aware of the radiation," said Chicago Aviation Department spokeswoman Karen Pride. "We are adding screenings and precautionary measures."

...Radiation was also found in luggage and on passengers on flights from Japan.

Mayor Richard M. Daley and other city officials wouldn't provide any additional details, saying federal authorities were handling the situation.

"Of course the protection of the person coming off the plane is important in regards to any radiation and especially within their families," Daley said at an unrelated event." [more at] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Tobey [and in the original CBS article March 17, 2011]. - Pandelver (talk) 20:23, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Lack of Clear Definitions in The Transport Branch

Hallo all, for long time I struggle with ambiguous terms in my (transport) branch. I heard, philosophers before start a discussion, first agree terms, which they want to discuss to speak of the same things. It seems to me as a good practice. Consider –

Mass Transport Definition

Is the mass transport the same as the public transport? Is the non-public transport of workers organized by employer or schoolbus subset of mass transport? Why not? But it is certainly no public transport.

Division lines Among Kinds of Transport

E.g. In my case, it is important to clear distinguish between DRT and taxi, shared taxi or regular bus service. I have prepared a diagram, which I would like to place on all relevant wiki-pages (Public transport, DRT, taxicab, shared taxi etc.). It is in SVG format, so anybody can edit it. Please keep on mind its main purpose - to put clear meanings to the terms.

Rkoblizek (talk) 08:16, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Transport disruption listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Transport disruption. Since you had some involvement with the Transport disruption redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). 65.94.47.63 (talk) 10:17, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

DOT hazard symbols

Hi Roadies!

I corresponded with the DOT and verified that all of their hazard symbols are public domain. There are about 40 of them. Wonder if there is someone interested in uploading them? See [5]. TCO (talk) 00:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Sprucing up WP:Transport

Hi folks. I've wanted to make a nicer-looking page for this project for a long time, and it kept getting put on the back burner. I finally came up with a candidate that is available here. Any comments? Thanks. Haus^Talk 14:40, 4 September 2011 (UTC) I went ahead and applied the update. Please let me know if you note any issues. Cheers. Haus^Talk 12:28, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Augustów Canal/GA1

A GAN has started on Augustów Canal, and was put on an initial hold to allow prose issues to be addressed before sources and coverage were looked at. The nominator has not accessed Wikipedia since the review started, and has not responded to an email. Would anyone from this project be prepared to work on the article to bring it up to GA status? SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:17, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Mobility hubs

I was curious if anyone on this Wikiproject was familiar with the term 'mobility hub'? It's a term used by Metrolinx to describe places where there is a centre or node, where a seamless connection between buses, trains, and other public transit from one or multiple agencies occurs. I can't seem to find an article on it, but I would create one if there isn't one already. --Natural R_X 23:35, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Old Town Canoe Articles for deletions discussion

There is a debate about whether this subject is notable or should be deleted from Wikipedia. Candleabracadabra (talk) 00:17, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Paper about inland waterways

A guy at the Transportation Safety Bureau of Hungary wrote a paper about inland waterways presented to a conference about waterways held in Hungary:

• http://www.kbsz.hu/dokumentumok/EIWN-paper_Sarkozi_MET_v5.6.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/65baOLIAf

This could be a useful source about inland waterways WhisperToMe (talk) 00:21, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I.D. please

I want to make an article on these. They are everywhere in China. Does an article exist? Commonscat? Thanks.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:51, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

We have minibus which it could be said these are a variety of, but they are noticably different from a European minibus. SpinningSpark 09:06, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

• • They look like a modified, extra long type of golf cart to me.--GrapedApe (talk) 23:58, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Featured List nomination

List of chronometers on HMS Beagle has been nominated as a Featured List candidate. Please give your view on this nomination at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of chronometers on HMS Beagle/archive1. SpinningSpark 09:07, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Rename of introductions categories

I have proposed Category:Vehicles introduced by year and Category:Locomotives introduced by year be renamed to use the by year of introduction form. You may participate in the discussion at CfD 2012/May/24.- choster (talk) 18:06, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Inconsistencies in vehicle categorization

Several inconsistencies have been pointed out in the categorization schemes for vehicles in what should otherwise have been a rather mundane category rename (CfD 2012/May/24 Vehicles introduced by year). I was wondering if anyone could point me to relevant discussions about the use of "vehicles," "motor vehicles," "road vehicles," "cars," and/or "automobiles," and how they are presently defined. The nearest I could find is "An "automobile" is a car" from 2006, about the scope of WP:Automobiles, which seems to have been inconclusive. As it stands the categories are something of a hodgepodge of naming and organizational conventions. For example, Category:Motor vehicles is a redirect to Category:Automobiles, when Category:Road vehicles would seem a much more reasonable target. We find Category:Honda ATVs under Category:Honda vehicles under… Category:Cars of Japan, even though an ATV is neither a car nor a road vehicle. I would like at the very least to see "road vehicle" reappropriated from being synonymous with automobile, but do not want to interfere with the work of the project if in fact these questions have been hashed out before conclusively.- choster (talk) 23:26, 31 May 2012 (UTC) To follow up, here are a few additional concerns that have recently surfaced:

• Vehicle "nationality" — It is unclear what is intended by "Cars of Foo" categories, and indeed whether such categorization can be meaningful in the modern, globalized market. If it is intended to classify all cars sold in a national market, massive category clutter would result. The major manufacturers have long been transnational, with operations in many countries, and with models produced for markets that are never introduced into the "home" market. Supply chains similarly have long been globalized, so parts may be manufactured in several different countries for final assembly yet other countries. The aircraft categories sidestep this issue with Category:International aircraft, but there are far more cars, trucks, and motorcycles that would take that moniker. The world car Fiat Palio is assembled in ten countries— none of them Italy, despite all Category:Fiat vehicles being considered a subset of Category:Cars of Italy— with parts no doubt sourced from many more.
• Categorizing by make/marque or by manufacturer? Ford is a brand of Ford Motor Company. So I would think Category:Ford vehicles would be cars named Ford Foo and whatnot, and that is what the category description says as well. Nevertheless, Category:Mercury vehicles and the like are subcats. These are Ford Motor Company vehicles, but not Ford vehicles. It doesn't seem like a one-off from an over-ambitious editor either, because Category:Toyota vehicles has Scion and Daihatsu within it, and Category:Volkswagen vehicles says it is for any vehicle of the entire Volkswagen Group.
• We have various competing naming conventions: Category:Cars of the Soviet Union and Category:Soviet automobiles with no explanation of what the difference is supposed to be.
• Introduction and production year categories: I have read through the past debates on manufacture year versus model year, and see no need to rehash old controversies. What would be helpful, however, is to know what the actual guidelines are and reflect that in the category descriptions. If a car is presented as a concept at a car show, is that arguably its year of introduction? That may be a silly question to a car enthusiast, but since WP is supposed to be a general purpose reference, it is worth spelling out. Second, the use of decade categories currently reflects production, but it is a bit ambiguous.

My intent is not to criticize, but to ask whether it is simply a lack of manpower or interest in categorization that has led to these issues, or if no consensus was ever achieved on account of some point of contention, or if they have never been considered. I am happy to assist with cleanup, or to help formulate a roadmap and guidelines for future categorization. Above all, as a frequent denizen of CfD, I want to avoid using the somewhat clumsy tool of CfD for enacting potentially large-scale changes, when there are subject matter experts who can work out the schema in the Projects. - choster (talk) 21:48, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I think it's mostly a lack of manpower. You'd be welcomed if you took care of the cleanup of these inconsistent or redundant categories.

Nationality can be a sticky issue. There's a terrible debate over how to group the old and new Mini, based on how English or German one chooses to view the cars. Template:Two wheelers in India is an example of the need for clarification. Yamaha Motor Company and Harley-Davidson clearly should not be categorized as Indian companies, but they belong on a template like this if you view them as manufacturers which have an important presence in India. Similarly, Honda, Toyota, BMW, Mercedes, and many more, have factories in the US and around the world, and so they can be thought of as relevant to the country where they're made, even if the base of the corporate parent isn't American.

I really have no idea whether to say Rolls-Royce or Mini care German or British brands. A category that accurately describes them is fine by me: Category:British-made cars, for example, or Category:Japanese motorcycles made in the US or Category:American motorcycles made in India. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 02:24, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes there is many,many problems with these cats,

• the make/marque or by manufacturer? question is quite hard, it goes wrong often because we eg. have bare "Toyota vehicles" its unclear , if we want to subcat all companies/brands owned by some parent company we should use "Toyota Motor Corporation vehicles" and under that "Toyota vehicles", "Scion vehicles" etc. so this is only naming of cat. Anyway we need to have brand/manufacturer specific cats, these cant to be grouped under parent company.

• Country specific categories, this is hard to say, I think its made mainly for cars which dont have any main cat that can be used, for example only one car made company so there is no "XXXXX vehicles" cat what can be used. This seems to be also "national pride" question. The problem is also that there is no strick rule is it for car made in certain country or is it for company that is situated in certain country.

• Introduction and production year categories: this problem is much releted also to the problem that "model year" used in USA and "production years" used on somewhere else. We should have grouped rules for all these, for example to these categories, automobile timeline templates etc, then we need to decide that introduction year, is it the 1st production year (or model year used in USA) or can it be for instance year of first unveiling in some motor show.

This case would need more opinions before making any changes/fixings. -->Typ932 ^T·C 06:10, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Having dealt extensively with categorising over in the Commons, I can only commiserate with y'alls future stresses. As for productive suggestions, is it possible to list a vehicle by both introductory Year and Model Year within a single template? I'm thinking something like {{Cars of|y=1981|my=1982}}, which would allow an article to be listed in whichever preferred format. This might also be extended to other more closely defined things like {{Category:Fiat|market1=Europe|market2=Africa|market3=Other}}. Obviously mine is a very vague suggestion and I don't know exactly what is possible within the WP programming parameters. Additionally, there are obviously still judgements to be made - while the Toyota Avalon is obviously almost exclusively an American Toyota product, the Corolla still remains hard to classify properly.  Mr.choppers | ✎  07:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Lancia IZM

Hi, I'm in the item Lancia IZM but I have some difficulty with the flags of some of the templates were not contemporaries, someone can check the item and place the flags to "operators". thank you very much --Pava (talk) 15:34, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

I also made available an image: File:Ruo ita LanciaIZ.jpg, since it was devoid commons. But I can not add it to the template, if someone can do me a favor. thanks --Pava (talk) 15:59, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

AFD for shuttle buses with zero references

A seriously deficient article with no attempt to pass WP:GNG, somehow survives one AFD as no consensus: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greenie Bus (2nd nomination). Please consider.--GrapedApe (talk) 14:06, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Vehicle miles traveled tax

I have added the article Vehicle miles traveled tax to this WikiProject. Not sure if there's anything I need to do beyond tagging the talk page. MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 19:53, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

New transport wikiprojct proposal

FYI, I just noticed this: Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Transport in Australia

-- 76.65.128.60 (talk) 08:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Bearing

Could you help me out? Thanks, Ibn Battuta (talk) 18:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Train wreck

An edit war; see talk: Train wreck. Involvement is needed urgently. Thanks in advance! Incnis Mrsi (talk) 21:13, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to Oct. 27 Editathon, Teamsters Labor History Research Center

You're invited to participate, remotely or in person, in the International Brotherhood of Teamsters Labor History Research Center Editathon, Oct. 27, at George Washington University. Join us online the day of the event, or sign up and meet your fellow editors in person! Djembayz (talk) 23:33, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

edit war Automotive lighting

report a user FAEP who likes to change all the images of various vehicles and replacing them with German cars, just because he is German. Although I have canceled his action, he has seen fit to unleash an edit war. Please ask to intervene. thank you very much --93.50.115.250 (talk) 09:52, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Just for the record: The IP 93.50.115.250 belongs to the User:Pava who has a record of edit-warring, insulting, vandalism, sockpuppeteering etc.--FAEP (talk) 10:22, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

discredit a user, with arguments that have nothing to do is not a good behavior. Moreover, this does not change your action, which is incorrect. i have open a discussion in talk article: here Talk:Automotive_lighting#many_images_of_every_type.2C_brand_and_model.2C_have_been_replaced_with_German_models.2C_by_a_German_user --Pava (talk) 17:07, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Efficiency of moving walkways

Hello, I need some help here. Thanks! --NaBUru38 (talk) 19:15, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Some AfDs

Hi all,
Your input would be welcome on some AfDs:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SBS Transit Service 163
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SBS Transit Service 243
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SMRT Service 307
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SBS Transit Service 143
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SBS Transit Service 151
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SBS Transit Service 284

They have recently been relisted, because nobody else has commented in the AfDs. bobrayner (talk) 12:18, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:WikiProject Water sports/RNLI task force (Royal National Lifeboat Institution)

I noticed that the RNLI taskforce is classified as a watersport, shouldn't this workgroup be part of WP:TRANSPORT (or WP:UK (or possibly WP:MED/EMS)) ? -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 01:26, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I'd say that article has more to do with lifesaving that transport. I'm happy to leave it with the water sports group.  Stepho  talk  02:15, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Colored link text

Interested parties, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Template:Rail text color, where a discussion has been going on about the practice of changing colors on links (which is discouraged by a Manual of Style guideline) in running text and in "Station layout" tables. I don't know how many, if any, articles under this project contain such links/tables, but folks here might have opinions or additional information they want to offer. - dcljr (talk) 18:15, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Proposed reinstatement of article on Bristol/Bath to South Coast Study

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Bristol/Bath to South Coast Study#Proposed reinstatement of content. -- Trevj (talk) 10:00, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Template:Z48

Ndlicenseplate.jpg

image:Ndlicenseplate.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 06:09, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

2013 Philippine Standardized registration plate.png

image:2013 Philippine Standardized registration plate.png has been nominated for deletion -- `65.94.79.6 (talk) 06:27, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Small question

Hello, I came here to ask if the members of this project believe that this article falls within this project's scope. The protests are mainly (but not only) targeted at the recently raised prices of the Brazilian public transportation system. The article still needs some expansion and clarifying, of course, but I think there's enough material for you guys to think of the possibility. Victão Lopes ^{I hear you...} 17:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'd include it as transport, if thats what the protest is about. Sir Rcsprinter, Bt (message) @ 20:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Cool, I'm adding the project's template to the article's talk page now. Victão Lopes ^{I hear you...} 22:12, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Rendering issues with rail transport color templates

There is an issue with some of the rail transport color templates where instead of displaying the color, it displays the number associated with the color. I'm not exactly sure how to fix this. Template:WMATA color works perfectly fine, but a few others such as Template:MTA Maryland color and Template:SEPTA color are experiencing this issue. --PiMaster3 ^talk 03:02, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, I figured out what I was doing wrong. --PiMaster3 ^talk 03:37, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

"Automobile"

The naming of the article Automobile (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is up for discussion, see talk:Automobile -- 76.65.131.217 (talk) 21:40, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment at Talk:TheBus (Honolulu)

I have opened a request for comment at Talk:TheBus (Honolulu) regarding the vehicle lists in the fleet section. Please feel free to review the matter and add to the discussion. Musashi1600 (talk) 11:18, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Glenn Marine Group

A new article, Glenn Marine Group, has just been created, not by me, primarily in connection with a bribery investigation by the USN's NCIS. I have no idea how to categorize the article, or what projects should be covered by. Anyone have any ideas, or an interest in working on the article? It's already been prodded, and may go to AFD soon. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 08:30, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Good work or subtle vandalism?

Could someone cast an eye over Regulatory sign to see if the recent edits made by various IPs (same ISP, so probably one person) are helpful. I was the third person this month to undo/change the IPs content, but despite leaving notes on the article's talk page and on one of the latest IP's talk pages, everything has been ignored and he/she is continuing to edit the article on an apparent schedule up to Christmas. I'm now inclined to WP:AGF but confirmation by someone in the know would be appreciated.  —SMALLJIM  18:09, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I can't see anything questionable about adding signs to a page about signs. Aside from the unusual use of Xmas edit summaries, what's your main concern? Rcsprinter (talk) @ 21:55, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps "recent edits" was rather inaccurate: there's over a year's worth. This came up during a session of vandal-fighting with Huggle and at the time I was concerned about the lack of referencing, apparent moving around of the graphics at random, recent reverts by two other editors, no edit summaries, portable IP addresses (all from the same ISP), unwillingness to discuss - all possible indicators of long-term subtle vandalism. Or maybe just someone playing around - why, I wondered, just to pick one at random, would the Australian no right turn sign be removed in this edit and replaced in this one? But as I said, if someone with an eye for these things thinks the end result is valid, I'm happy to AGF – we don't all work in the same way!  —SMALLJIM  15:38, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

"Aeronautics"

FYI, Aeronautics (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been proposed to be merged into aviation, see talk:aviation -- 65.94.78.9 (talk) 23:27, 23 December 2013 (UTC)