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NOTE: Going back into my old trade as a filmmaker and writer, concentrating on aviation subjects.

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Hello, Bzuk. I'm a bit confused about your response to the fair-use problem with File:Screen shot Hero.png. If the image commentary you've added to Hero is so inconsequential that you insist on burying it in a footnote, then why do you feel it necessary to include the non-free image in the first place? If the production or use of the crash scene is particularly significant, then it deserves to be discussed in the main text of the article. If not, then there is no encyclopedic reason to use the image. (See Wikipedia:Non-free content#Meeting the contextual significance criterion, and in particular the part referencing WP:DUE and WP:BALASPS. We don't include images, non-free or otherwise, for purely decorative purposes, and simply adding a token commentary to such an image doesn't bypass the "significance of understanding" criterion for fair use.) —Psychonaut (talk) 19:40, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

The reasoning behind the use of a note to the reader was to give further information as a question about the use of the scene was made. The image is not there for prettiness, but shows a key scene and how it was created, using a set that was rigged for explosion. That's simply the way I wanted to provide the information to the reader. The note is attached to the caption and is fully referenced. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:00, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response (but please let's keep the conversation in one place). I understand and accept that the note is adequately referenced. I'm just saying that it seems strange to put the commentary in a footnote, suggesting it is relatively unimportant, when the use of the non-free film still is predicated on it being (a) an important part of the movie, and (b) necessary to understand the accompanying commentary. Do you see what I mean? —Psychonaut (talk) 21:29, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

I have used the option of a note to provide an expanded commentary which still is useful to the reader to understand the complexities of staging a dramatic scene. The scene is one that was documented in a number of reference sources dealing with aviation films. The use of a full-scale Boeing 727 in an era when CGI dominates lends credence to the choices made by the filmmakers to create a realistic scenario. Both the content in the "production" section and the photograph and its caption viewed together give a more fulsome description. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:39, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Unless the reader/viewer sees the fireball that was involved, the actual consequences of the lead character entering a stricken airliner is not evident. The descriptor of how the scene was shot gives a greater appreciation of the sequence. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:50, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

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I have a rewrite of the article on the Foster mounting nearing completion in my sandbox - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Soundofmusicals/sandbox which may or may not be of interest. In common with other articles I have worked on from (more or less) scratch like this I am basically writing the text first and will be adding the verifiability/links etc. later - appreciate if you could add any comments you might have, including any possible outright errors you might notice, either to my talk page or the one to my sandbox. Most welcome help of all would be usable references, anything you think I should read etc.

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POV on Sabre Jet

Say Bzuk, shouldn't you delete the 'Reception' stuff on the Sabre Jet (film) article that's POV? Seems not just stupid but wrong to print criticism based on trendy 21st Century comments and attitudes rather than using the books to provide details on the actual filming of the movie.Foofbun (talk) 08:11, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

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Captain Swagger

Hi Bzuk, much oblige on your comment. Thank you. Captain Swagger, I used to always confuse with the talkie Captain Applejack. Can't seem to imagine John Halliday as a Spanish type pirate. File: Captain Swagger poster.jpg

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Happy Easter

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Precious five years!

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Request for advice in dealing with problematic users

Greetings and felicitations. You seem to be more engaged with the Wikipedia community than I, so I am coming to you for advice, hoping that you can at least point me in the right direction(s).

Recently I have had two edits of mine reverted by two separate users who may not be acting in good faith, or at least in the best interests of Wikipedia. I also have had run-ins over the years with a significant contributor to this encyclopedia, but let's deal with the others first.

Most recently, user 32.218.43.144‎ reverted an edit as described here, and then blanked their Talk page. Here are the user's contributions. Since the edit is back to the way I wanted it (something I just discovered) there is nothing really to be done, but I'm left wondering how in the future I should handle this sort of case, especially given the lack of response and the deprecating "too lazy" comment.

The second case regards user Drnarendrajadhav, who reverted an edit as described here. The article in question already has a Autobiography cleanup template and really could use a Copy edit cleanup template.

The last case concerns user Beyond My Ken, with whom I see you are familiar and who in my experience over several years is one of the two main editors of New York City articles as well as various others, so I tend to run into him/her every so often. In my view BMK often reverts edits, and can be a bit insulting when doing so. S/he also seems to often disregard the MOS and follows his/her own view of how a proper article should be. E.g., that "Further reading" sections should not be stand alones, but what I call "non-sections" with the title in bold, and that refimprove templates belong in the "References" section (e.g., 1, 2), rather than at the top of the article as per MOS:ORDER. If I knew BMK's philosophy on what constitutes a proper article, I could work with/around that, but s/he has not posted it.

I also find the lack of edit summaries troubling, and we disagree on the placement of images. (I prefer that images be in, not above, the sections to which they are relevant, and that in wide browser windows (mine are 1600 pixels) images not intrude into the appendices, neither of which seem to bother BMK in the least, something that has apparently caused him/her to revert several of my edits.)

In the (distant) past when I tried to discuss BMK's reversions of my edits (e.g., here and especially here, which also speaks to BMK's attitude towards the MOS) s/he has not been very...helpful. Which seems odd given the cordiality with which I see BMK treating other users on his/her talk page.

Do you have any suggestions, other than what I have been doing, which is avoiding editing any articles to which BMK may be paying attention, or making only very non-controversal edits?

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I am having a few problems with an enthusiastic but at times very dogmatic editorial colleague on the Fokker Scourge article. If fact, things have reached a pass where some second opinions might be useful. The specific question he is hammering at the moment is that we shouldn't ever say "No. 1 Squadron RAF" (in spite of that being the usual way of putting it) but "1 Squadron" (on the grounds that the "No." is redundant). I wouldn't object to an occasional omission of the "No.", if only for elegant variation, but he has been going right through the article wiping every instance and claiming that "Wikipedia is not a source" (which is true enough, but nothing to do with the case). The gentleman concerned has been making dozens of other (mostly very pettifogging) changes to the article - a few have been genuine improvements, and most at least acceptable alternatives but some of which have made clear text obscure, even meaningless. I have let everything he has done that is at all acceptable stand, but the really bad ones I've had to change - usually with a new version rather than a provocative revert.

I was wondering, if you have a moment, if you'd like to have a little look at the Fokker Scourge talk page (go straight to the bottom if you like) and tell me, either here, on my talk page, or even on the talk page of the article if you want to actually buy into the discussion, if I'm being totally unreasonable and should just give up. This is (for a WWI aviation article) quite a high traffic one - and I'd like to leave it in reasonable shape. At least readable, and plain in meaning (two things I value far above brevity for its own sake). --Soundofmusicals (talk) 01:01, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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