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June 14

Why am I not autoconfirmed?

Resolved

 – Account has passed the 4-day mark and user has uploaded images -- John of Reading (talk) 15:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm new at this so you'll have to give me a break. I'd like to upload images but I'm not autoconfirmed. It has been 4 days and I have 30 plus edits. What else might be the problem?

Randyschroeder 14:23 14 June 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 14:27, 14 June 2010 (UTC).

• For the benefit of anyone looking and wondering, Randyschroeder's account was created at 14:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC) - the post here was 6 minutes before they were autoconfirmed! When the guidelines say that an account will be autoconfirmed at 4 days, it means 4 x 24 hours = 96 hours! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 18:28, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

That happened to me too - I was only seventeen minutes away when I asked, I think. |:-) ~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·_Talkback_· 04:06, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Does anybody know how to bypass Chrome's cache?

I use Google Chrome, and nobody seems to know how to bypass the cache. I need to so I can view prose-size checking software for copy-edit-backlog-fest '10. How does one do so???? 2D Maestro ^{Serbia Suburbia} 00:27, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

You would normally ask this at the Reference Desk, but it is an operation needed on Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Bypass your cache. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 00:31, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

prjects on commercial mathematics

i am unable to find my project on commercial mathematics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.117.186.186 (talk) 04:18, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

do you mean the article Commercial mathematics or Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics? Kayau Voting IS evil 04:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

WATERBURY , CONNECTICUT PICTURES

I HAD A SHOCK , I REQUEST YOU SEND ME BEATIFUL PICTURES OF WATERBURY, CONNECTICUT. BEAUTIFUL PICTURES OF CONTRA COSTA COUNTY, OFF SAN FRANCISCO CITY. BEAUTIFUL PICTURES OF LOS ANGELES CITY, CALIFORNIA. ACTUALLY , I ALREADY BUY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THESE THREE COUNTY. I HOPE I AM NOT BLUFFED BY SOMEONE THERE HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF PEOPLES WHO GOT MONEY LOST IN THESE AREAS. SEND ME PICTURES THAT I CAN KEEP THE EMAILS THANK YOU FROM <email removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.24.221.154 (talk) 08:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

We are not Wikimedia Commons. Picture-related questions go there. The URL is at http://commons.wikimedia.com/wiki/Main_page. The direct link is here. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! For future reference, writing in all caps is perceived as rather rude, like shouting. It is also hard to read. This is the Help Desk of Wikipedia, where we answer questions about Wikipedia. Your question appears to be about house-buying scams and/or photographs in an area of the US. This is not directly relevant to Wikipedia; as such, may I suggest you ask on a website like this? If you have any more queries, do let me know. Regards, {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 09:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

LOL, I don't think even the most points-hungry Yahoo user would provide somebody with photos. In Hong Kong Yahoo Answers is called Yahoo Knowledge+. :) Kayau Voting IS evil 09:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

They could easily provide links to photos on other sites, I've seen it done. (What's your YA profile called, if you have one? I want to add you as my contact...) {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 09:46, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Activate Window XP

Dear Sir/Madam

Can you please help me; I need to Activate my Window XP I've tried to call your Tollfree number and you Land line number but it is not working

Kind Regards Luyanda Bokwe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.25.53.227 (talk) 09:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:35, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 09:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Dark matter question/hypothesis

I am no mental giant however, it seems to me that maybe the "evidence" for dark matter is merely a visual perception gone awry. A PBS or Learning channel broadcast showed time and space as an interwoven fabric and then placed the earth on that fabric and likened it to a large ball on a trampoline. Then it showed how the moon is like a smaller ball and would roll toward the earth and circle it instead of running into it. What I am getting at is the fact that time space is stretched or dilated by mass. When you look at a galaxy is there a way that you are compensating for the fact that the outer stars are very, very far away from the inner stars and are likely not in the same time space as each other? Thus causing distant observers to arrive at the idea that there has to be some unseen mass affecting/causing the velocity difference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.114.204 (talk) 09:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Science reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Adding Commons images to en Wiki categories

Is there a way of adding a Commons image (such as File:CissoidOfDiocles01.png) to an en Wiki category (such as Category:Images of curves) ? I became interested in whether this was possible after participating in this recent AfD discussion. I tried creating an en image description page with the single line "[[Category:Images of curves]]". This added the image to the category, but then User:Fastily deleted the en image description page with the reason "F2: Corrupt or empty file, or a file description page for a file on Commons", so back to square one. Follow-up discussion at User_talk:Fastily#Commons_image_files_and_en_categories suugests that there is no other mechanism for adding Commons images to local categories in language Wikis, so it just can't be done. Is this correct ? Does anyone know of any previous discussion or guidelines on this issue ? Thanks. Gandalf61 (talk) 11:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

The categories here only apply to files in this wiki, not to files in other projects such as Commons or the Esperanto Vikipedio; so, no, you can't do what you were trying to do. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have been clearer in the wording of my question. I know that a Commons image can technically be assigned to an en category by creating an en image description page. For example, here is an image picked at random from Category:Featured pictures, where the image file is on Commons, and its en image description page just contains a Featured Picture tag and a POTD tag - click on "edit this page" to see the 2-line en image description page (and a random sample shows this is a common method for our Featured Pictures images). But the assignment of a Commons image to an en category by creating an en image description page containing just a category line (rather than templates that indirectly assign to an en category) seems to be deprecated. Why is this ? Is the correct use of en image descriptions pages for Commons images discussed anywhere ? Gandalf61 (talk) 14:32, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

... and the more I look, the more examples I find of Commons image files that have an en image description page which assigns them to an en category - File:Oystermouth Castle.jpg, File:Gamma distribution cdf.png, File:Philipp IV.jpg, File:BenFranklin Waterspout 1806.jpg. So what gives - is this allowed or deprecated or what ? Gandalf61 (talk) 16:00, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikimedia Commons#Categorization says: "Please do not categorize Commons files on Wikipedia but rather help commons by categorizing them there." PrimeHunter (talk) 23:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, that can't be the whole story, because there are clearly examples of categories that are useful and necessary in en Wiki but not appropriate in Commons. Category:Featured pictures is an example - an en Featured Picture is not necessarily a Commons Featured Picture. And what if you want to have Commons and non-Commons images in the same en category (not every image can be moved to Commons) ? Gandalf61 (talk) 09:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Presumably it refers to categorization that would make sense at commons such as categories concerning the subject of the image and not concerning its use on a specific project. See also WP:CSD#F2 and WP:CSD#G8. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:43, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Music Genre

It relation to a recent edit,is there such a music genre called AOR?, Gobbleswoggler (talk) 16:28, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

AOR used to mean "album-oriented rock" - the bands that made concept albums like The Wall. It probably means something completely different now. -- kainaw™ 16:32, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) According to AOR, there is a format called Album-oriented rock. Is that to what you were referring? TNXMan 16:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

The article has a completely different definition that what I stated. The article states that AOR is a radio station format, not a type of music. -- kainaw™ 16:39, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I can see the connection to genre - a rock band that focuses more on the total album rather than singles. The disambig page also lists "adult oriented rock" or arena rock. TNXMan 16:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Interwiki links between the nine Language RDs

I was recently delighted to discover that there are now nine Wikipedias with a Language reference desk: ar/en/es/fi/fr/he/hu/jv/nl. But not only do most of them not link via interwiki to each other ("in other languages") -- Hungarian has the most, with seven others, and French as yet has none -- I can't figure out how to add them. Is this action restricted to Admins? How to proceed? -- Deborahjay (talk) 17:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

If you edit the Language reference desk page you will see the inter-wiki links near the top. For example the Spanish one is [[es:Wikipedia:Consultas/Consultas lingüísticas]]. The page isn't protected so you should be able to add more links there. The syntax of the other wiki's pages will be similar. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I see in the English that they're indeed near the top - unexpected, since usually they're at the bottom over or under the cats. However I've failed to find them in any of the other languages, from which I'd hoped to lift the rest (since English has only three and it's a hassle to construct them manually), when I open their pages in Edit. -- Deborahjay (talk) 18:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

On the Spanish and Dutch pages, the interwikis were misplaced (I attempted to fix them -- if it was reverted, just search "[[en:" on the edit page). On the Indonesian one, they're at the bottom. On the Hungarian one, they're on a subpage that's transcluded in. The French one, as you noticed, doesn't have any. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 19:24, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll check those out. Meanwhile I've left messages including all the relevant syntax (written with nowiki tags) on the Discussion pages in the French and Spanish and will do Hebrew next. For the others I can do the same though will have to write my message in English. Good faith rules! -- Deborahjay (talk) 19:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Identifying the original contributor of article text

Is it possible to track back and identify the original contributor of text from an existing article? There is information in the Thomas More article with no source verification listed which I believe is incorrect. If the original contributor could be contacted I might be able to verify whether the existing information is verifiable. So far I have been unable to verify. Upton Upton Rehnberg 17:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by UptonRehnberg (talk • contribs)

Have you checked the history of the page? If you click on the "history" tab at the top of the article, you can see everyone who has contributed to a page. TNXMan 18:08, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

IF you want to find who contributed an exact part of text, you could maybe try WP:WikiBlame? —Duncan^{What I Do} / _{What I Say} 05:31, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

move-ing on...but not sure i did it right!

I have done my 10+ edits and been a user for 4+ days. The MOVE box and downward arrow appeared. It said rename article. I took off the user name, and left the article title Alex Binnie (Tattoo Artist). But it still doesn't seem to be out there. Am I missing something?! Help for a first-timer continues to be appreciated!Statenisland777 (talk) 19:20, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

It can be found here. Somebody renamed it to follow Wikipedia convention.Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 19:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The move was successful; you did it right. I have moved the page again to Alex Binnie (tattoo artist) to comply with the Manual of Style guideline on capitalization in titles. While we're looking at that page, some of the sources may need formatting or removing altogether (as unreliable sources), for example numbers 3, 6, and 10, at a very quick glance. Reliable sources are needed to prove the notability of this person. Intelligentsium 19:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

thanks...it's just i have had a hard time getting my head around the process, and appreciate knowing i'm moving in the right direction. I had a look at 3, 6 and 10...3 is just a link to a general directory, and not massively important, but does direct the user to different articles, 6 is a bmezine link to the history of the Gauntlet (now defunct)-it seemed to fit my general knowledge of the institution- it was the center of the popularization of piercing today, really, from the 70's to the '90's, and 10 just seemed a straightforward movie site cast and credits listings- in this case better than imdb, which i usually use for my research elsewhere. I appreciate the concerns raised. Do you think I have answered them ok?! thanks for moving the page to the appropriate style. Now is the process for an administrator to review it? Is that what you just did? If that is approved does it go public?Statenisland777 (talk) 20:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Medals

HMM 263 award state many that I can not validate where did you get the information about the awarding of those military medals? Thanks <email removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.114.37.202 (talk) 19:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

This information was added in December 2007 by Looper5920. I've asked your question on this editor's talk page since I can't find a source for the award list. (I've removed the email address from your question to protect your privacy.) -- John of Reading (talk) 20:32, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

The editor has replied -- John of Reading (talk) 19:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

page view stats - down sharply

I've looked at the page view statistics of about eight various articles, and the page views are down sharply for the last two or three days. Is this sharp drop-off real or some sort of technical problem? Bubba73 ^{(You talkin' to me?)}, 20:04, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

It is technical. You are not the first to notice, several have asked for a fix at the the talk page of the stats tool, who is regrettably no longer active. It is being looked into. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 20:27, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

It is a great tool. I use it frequently. Bubba73 ^{(You talkin' to me?)}, 22:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Link to a picture within an article

Is there a way (if yes, how?) to link to an image which appears inside an article? I am expanding Glossary of Japanese swords and would like to add something like: see pic to some of the descriptions, where "pic" is a link which takes the reader to the location of the image in that article. The article is going to be much longer, so it would be a good feature to have.bamse (talk) 20:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Put a colon in front of the file name, like this: [[:File:Katana diagram.svg]] You can then pipe it like any other link, e.g. pic — jwillbur 20:38, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I just re-read the question. If the picture already appears in the article, you can put an {{anchor}} before the image and then link to it (from within the same article) like this: [[#anchorname|pic]] — jwillbur 20:44, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Works like a charm. bamse (talk) 21:51, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit Count and Oversight?

When a user's edits are Oversighted, are they also removed from the edit count? As of this writing, my edit count showing in my preferences shows 8019, however certain tools like X!'s counter show 8035. The only think I can think of to explain this (other than tool error) is that the oversighted edits are not counted locally in my preferences, but are counted via toolserver tools. (Presumably because the oversighted edits are still there for Oversighters and Devs, and the tools have direct access to that API.) ^Avicenna_sis @ 20:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I don’t believe that is the difference. My preference count differs from the Toolserver count by 106, but I don’t, AFAIK, have any oversighted edits.SPhilbrickT 21:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

They could be plain old deleted edits (including edits on a page that was deleted in its entirety). Those tend to be invisible to edit counters as well. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:35, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I dunno. I have hundreds of deleted edits, so I don't think that is it. I also had two of my edits oversighted since the first post, and the difference remains the same. *shrugs* ^Avicenna_sis tb? @ 20:29, 3 Tamuz 5770 / 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Aristide Razu

Hi,

Whoever made the article about my great grandfather to look more presentable ,thank thou. I've also added the translations of Oituz and Marasti Battles. Aristiderazu (talk) 22:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC) Aristiderazu

It is very nice that you want to thank the person helping you. However, it is highly unlikely that they are reading this page.

I think it is a great thing that you want to thank them, so, if you don’t mind, I’ll show you how.

At the article Aristide Razu, click on the "History" tab. There you will see that someone named Eugen Ivan has been editing the page. You will also see the word "talk" next to their name. If you click on it, you will be brought to the talk page of that editor, and you can thank them there.

Just in case you aren’t regularly following this page, I’ll also post this at your talk page.SPhilbrickT 22:24, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok.Thank you for the hint SPhilbrick .I posted some layer of thank you to Eugen Ivan.Aristiderazu (talk) 21:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC) Aristiderazu.Still everything seems complicated in Wiki,though.That is to me.

User Name to Name

Is there a directory or index to get from user name to person name and possibly email address? Upton Rehnberg 22:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by UptonRehnberg (talk • contribs)

No, most users are anonymous. Some few either have their real name as their user name or list their real life details on their user pages. You can email any user who has email enabled by clicking on E-mail this user in the toolbox links on the left side of the page.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:38, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Copy and paste?

What the heck happened to the special symbols bar??? It says "copy and paste" rather than clicking on the letter to insert it. Did Wikipedia bail out? Is it unemployed? Or is it some error in changing? 2D Maestro ^{LRTW L4L} 23:02, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Furthermore, why are "show" tabs gone? 2D Maestro ^{LRTW L4L} 23:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

By "special symbols bar", do you mean the new vector toolbar or the bar under the edit summary field? I am fairly sure that the latter runs on client-side ; it will show copy-and-paste if you do not have JavaScript enabled on your browser or computer. As for the advanced toolbar, I thought it ran on server-side JavaScript; you may want to post an enquiry on WP:VPT if enabling JavaScript and/or switching browsers does not work. As for your second question, see this discussion. Intelligentsium 00:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

In fact, it seems both may have been caused by a mistake on the part of one of the developers; from the VPT discussion: "[s]orry for the disruption. I was . . . trying to fix the bugs with the bottom inserttools and a few other elements . . .". Intelligentsium 00:26, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Oops, did I make a mistake?

I just wrote that Finnish politician Mari Kiviniemi has two children, Hanna and Antti. The article already said that she has 2 children but I added the name. Everyone knows who Hanna and Antti are. However, Wikipedia rules say that children are not to be named. The same thing with the British Prime Minister's children. Their names are in Wikipedia for all to see.

Should Hanna and Antti's names be oversighted? Or should we accept that the rules are probably meant for less famous people? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 23:02, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I assume the names of the children were publicly available, therefore it is not oversightable information. By the way, if you genuinely believe that information posted on Wikipedia is oversightable, you should not be posting that information (or a link to it) to a public forum like this one but rather go to Special:EmailUser/Oversight to report the issue. PleaseStand ^(talk) 00:00, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

See WP:BLPNAME The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons

So should Hanna and Antti, as well as the British Prime Ministers and any other children be secret? I tend to think not but BLPNAME requires it. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 00:44, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

As a rule, family members do not need to be named ("He has 2 children" would be sufficient), unless the children are notable in their own right. I wouldn't think that oversight was necessary, as the names are almost certainly available in a reliable source (like a newspaper). -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 07:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

What should be done if for a University President, the names of his wife and children are given?Naraht (talk) 22:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

What's up with Collapsible tables

do they work? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Collapsible_tables —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.132.87 (talk) 23:25, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

They were broken for a few minutes Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Collapse_option_seems_dead.3F. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 23:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

June 15

Naming help

I want some help in deciding to move an article. Actually, its an advice - and i am not 100% sure this is the place for it. But, even after read WP:Naming i couldn't come to a decision. There is an Indian Malayalam film actor by the name "Prithviraj", whose article is at present given under the title "Prithviraj Sukumaran". But he is known by his stage name "Prithviraj". The name "Prithviraj Sukumaran" is not at all popular (uncontroversial - everyone will agree on this). So, i moved the article to "Prithviraj (actor)" which was reverted citing the reason that there are more actors by the name "Prithviraj", which is true. Now, i am thinking of moving it to "Prithviraj (Malayalam actor)" because none of the other "Prithviraj"s are malayalam actors. In this contex, pls help out which is the desired title in wikipedia; "Prithviraj (Malayalam actor)" or the present one "Prithviraj Sukumaran" . Thanks Arjun^codename024 00:18, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I'd think that the Prithviraj (Malayalam actor) would be better if he is really only known by that name - you should add him to the disambug though. I believe it mentions on the naming conventions that you can do that in cases like this, but I'm not really sure. I'd wait for somebody else's opinion also before acting on mine. |:-) ~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·_Talkback_· 04:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

IP address

Another person on my network has been editing Wikipedia inappropriately (lack of citations among other things) and since they are not using an account Wikipedia only knows them via the IP address. For some reason Wikipedia contacts my PC when addressing the faulty edits and not the responsible PC on the network. Is there a way to request our IP be blocked from editing or some way to dissociate my PC from the editing PC? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.148.73 (talk) 00:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

This is a known issue when editing anonymously, and unfortunately the only way to work around it is to get an account. Most large Internet service providers are always reassigning IP addresses, and by the time a warning is issued for an offending edit a user may have been switched to another IP address. The best course of action is to simply ignore the warning. Most users will assume that an IP warning that is more than a day or two old was issued for a different user. IPs are rarely blocked from editing for more than 24 hours or so because of this very reason -- a malicious user will probably be able has the ability to vandalize again within hours, if not minutes, if they have a dynamic IP address, although most vandals choose to move on to other endeavours once they are blocked. Xenon54 (talk) 00:31, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Xenon54, do you know when 24.118.55.123 will be active again? AirplanePro^Radio_Checklist 01:01, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

@Xenon54, He has been temporarily blocked by Toddst1, and I want to know when the block will expire. AirplanePro^Radio_Checklist 02:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I just noticed it expired 22 days ago. AirplanePro^Radio_Checklist 02:26, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

about rajkot

I want to know about the place Rajkot in Gujarat, India and its population flora and fauna. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.193.3.169 (talk) 02:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Humanities reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Robert Skyhawk ^{(T C B)} 03:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article on Rajkot district isn't very detailed, so if you learn more about, try adding to the article. Thanks, liquidluck✽talk 03:56, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

The Passion of Christ

Why is this period in the end of the life of Christ called the Passion? When does it start exactly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.74.66.97 (talk) 03:10, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Humanities reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Robert Skyhawk ^{(T C B)} 03:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Also, see if reading Passion (Christianity) doesn't help. liquidluck✽talk 03:57, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

My Own Automated Archiving

I wanted to ask before I do anything — would it be considered okay if I made a simple workflow (from an application that makes very simple scripts from user-ordered\configured actions) to go on my web browser (entirely based from my computer) and archive parts of my talk page every once in a while? It would have no capacity for messing up anything else and would really be just a normal edit every few days or so. If not, I'll just do it myself or get archiving service from a bot. Thanks for your time! ~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·_Talkback_· 04:00, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

It should be fine. However, you may want to enquire with the Bot Approvals Group just to be on the safe side. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 183° 14' 45" NET 12:12, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! ~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·_Talkback_· 14:01, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

BioControl article

I submitted an article about a journal, BioControl and was told it was rejected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Phylwein I copied other journal entries that were accepted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Journal_of_Organic_Chemistry, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_of_Organic_Chemistry. WHY WASN'T MY ENTRY ACCEPTED WHEN THESE WERE? Phylwein (talk) 04:37, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I would recommend reading this. You need more text, more sources\references and many other things, however with some improvement, I'm sure it could be a very good article. It is not rejected yet - you still have a chance to fix it. Sonia, the reviewer suggests that you add reliable sources and references to prove the importance and accuracy of the article for her to reevaluate it. Hope that helped! ~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·_Talkback_· 05:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Use of Wikipedia logo

There is an article about my organization on Wikipedia. Can I use the Wikipedia logo on my website to inform people that there is information about the organization on Wikipedia?Phylwein (talk) 04:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I believe that it is copyrighted and therefore that you can't. Sorry. ~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·_Talkback_· 05:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

You can see the logo here. It is copyrighted but there are links on the image description which may help with availability of its use. Dismas|^(talk) 06:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Some sites use a Wikipedia favicon. It's a black W on white background. Some of the images at commons:Category:Wikipedia favicons are free to use. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Want to Check with Wikipedia Editors - Several Articles About the College Where I Teach Have Been Deleted in the Past. Don't Want to Write an Article in Vain - Dr. Lara

Hi, My name is Lara DeSoleil.

I am an adjunct faculty member with Linda Christas College.

It has been reported to me that Wikipedia editors have on several occasions deleted attempts by both students and faculty to include Linda Christas College on Wikipedia.

Something about, you needed third party verification.

With over 7,000 online students, and several hundred faculty, one would think Wikipedia would find a way to overcome its editorial biases.

But, evidently that hasn't been the case.

I don't want to generate an article and then have an independent editor find a reason to delete it.

Is there any way I can be assured my effort will not be in vain, if I were to generate an article.

You have so many articles about schools far less qualified to be represented on Wikipedia (in my opinion).

For the sake of completeness, if nothing else, I would think Wikipedia editors would not want to advertise their biases.

Linda Christas has won several awards in China, and is prominent with respect to many social causes here in the US, but has been rejected by the Department of Education because LC does not believe that effective education can be delivered when curriculum is adopted from afar without reference to the learning style, maturity level, interests and aptitudes of the individual student.

It is the DoE policy of adopting curriculum from afar and then imposing that curriculum by law that has led the US to the bottom of the industrial world in terms of student achievement.

Wikipedia editors have added to the problem by supporting every school in the US that is following the DoE's flawed educational philosophies. See article by an LC student at: http://www.lindachristas.org/education/bill-gates-prays-for-better-schools/

Only at the Graduate School level is the US still competitive, and that is because 65% of all grad students are now foreign nations in math, engineering, and the pure sciences.

There is something wrong with this picture, and Wikipedia editors seem to be adding to the problem if what I've been told is anything like the truth.

Please let me know if you will accept an article about Linda Christas College. A "give it a try" will not suffice.

Just not worth the frustration.

Sincerely,

Dr. Lara <removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.135.42 (talk) 05:55, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

The notability of a school would fall under the Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) guideline. If you can supply a neutral article with references to third party sources, then the article should be able to stay. Although, you're connected to the school and therefore it would be difficult for you to write neutrally about your employer. Other relevant policies are at neutral point of view, conflict of interest, and reliable sources. Dismas|^(talk) 06:15, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Such a good idea in what is ostensibly a request for advice to pepper your inquiry with insults and innuendo. "If what I've been told is anything like the truth"? Looks like you've already quite made up your mind on all our biases.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:53, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

We'd be reluctant to accept an article written about this subject by you, for obvious reasons (I'd advise you to read WP:COI, WP:NPOV and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Linda Christas International School). Ad hominem stuff like "Wikipedia editors have added to the problem by supporting every school in the US that is following the DoE's flawed educational philosophies" leads one to suspect that you've already decided we are part of the international conspiracy against your school. I will also point out that we cover a lot of subjects here that we do not support; that's part of what an encyclopedia does. Just because we have articles about Jeffrey Dahmer, or Pat Boone, or Adolph Hitler, or Glenn Beck, or Mao Tsetung, or Phyllis Schlaffly, or Joseph Stalin, or Ayn Rand, or Charles Manson, or Marilyn Manson, or Osama Bin Laden, doesn't mean we support those entities.

On the other hand, if there is actual evidence that the school actually exists as a functioning entity, sourced to reliable sources, then an impartial article by somebody without a conflict of interest could very well have a place here (we have plenty of articles about unaccredited institutions here). --Orange Mike | Talk 14:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

picture won't show

I uploaded a picture on commons, then added it to an article using . In the article the file name is displayed in red letters and the picture does not show. What now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxflinker (talk • contribs) 09:15, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

You uploaded a file with the "jpg" extension, but the article Young Moshe's Diary: The Spiritual Torment of a Jewish Boy in Nazi Europe is trying to show Mosheflinker.png. If you change this to jpg your picture will display. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Now I get a box with the caption in it, but why is the picture only displayed on a extra page after clicking on an icon ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxflinker (talk • contribs) 09:57, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

The picture shows up in the article when I look at it. Maybe you will see the picture if you ask the browser to refresh the page (usually "F5") or do a more thorough refresh? -- John of Reading (talk) 12:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Merge editor accounts

Anyone know how to go about merging user accounts? I was User:Everton Dasent but lost my access when I forgot my password and stupidly had not attached an email address. So I had to re-incarnate. But I would like to get the two accounts merged. Edasent (talk) 10:05, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

You can't merge them. But if you want the old name, you can get it here: WP:CHU/U. Unfortunately, the contributions from your old account will not be shown on your contributions, but you can still use the name. That's the best we can do, sorry. Hope this helps, {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 10:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Unable to export article with sanskrit font Alinel (talk) 10:06, 15 June 2010 (UTC) Bala

I have a content that is typed out using english and sanskrit, However Am not able to export the same as an article on wiki. The create article page does not pull the sanskrit font . they seem to have jumbled characters ie: ¨Ì–zùÌ¡ôSóÌœúÌ: kind of... Please HELP @@@!!!!

Since no one seems to know the answer at this general help desk, it might be a good idea for you to ask the question again at the Village Pump Technical board, which specializes in more technical issues. Gonzonoir (talk) 07:06, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Help with translation of WW11 japanese medal

Is there anywhere I can get help? I have an 8 point star medal my now deceased father brought back from WW11 with what I believe to be japanese writing on the back. Is there any way I can find out what it says? Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Ssnoozz (talk) 11:00, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

You can't at this desk, which is for asking questions about using Wikipedia. However, you can ask at the languages reference desk or one of the users in this category, who all say they speak high level Japanese. TNXMan 11:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Using Images

Hi folks,

I've had a good rummage round, but haven't found the answer in the archives (might be the keywords I'm using), but could someone please do me a huge favour and tell me in plain English what to do when using an image on Wikipedia (or Wikicommons)? There are so many licenses that I'm not sure how to go about crediting an image appropriately, and have seen it done in all manner of different ways in books, on boards and in magazines.

If an image has been released into the public domain (like this), do I need to credit anyone at all? Then if someone has used tags like those on this image, do I credit wikipedia, or the photographer (note, that the "manner specified" is rarely specified)? Any help would be much appreciated - several friends would like to know and have looked to me, knowing that I'm an editor. I confess I have no idea as I rarely find myself using wikipedia for that purpose.

Cheers in advance, Ranger Steve (talk) 12:18, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

If you want to add an image to a Wikipedia article and the image isn't copyrighted then just go right ahead and add the picture to the article. The person who uploaded the file has already been credited on the image page. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 188° 11' 0" NET 12:32, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, on re-reading my original post I realise I left out a major sentence and could have been a lot clearer. What I mean is, how do you credit an image from wikipedia when you use it somewhere else (magazine, book, report, information board etc...) Ranger Steve (talk) 12:37, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content (WP:REUSE). Bencherlite^Talk 13:20, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but those pages don't really tell me much in plain English, and for images just direct me to the licences themselves - and they're what I'm having trouble with. Ranger Steve (talk) 15:33, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

That specific image File:Stonehenge Cursus.jpg has been licensed under public domain. You can use it for whatever you like (commercial, non-commercial etc.). According to Wikipedia:Public domain, "Proper attribution to the author or source of a work, even if it is in the public domain, is still required to avoid plagiarism", so in your publication, note where/who you got it from.

For other images, Creative Commons are pretty straightforward to decipher. Wikipedia's current license is CC-BY-SA = Creative Commons - Atttribute - Share-alike. So say where you got it from (using a hyperlink or URL), and if you make any modifications to it (changing white balance would be an example, I suppose), you must also license your modified version under CC-BY-SA. Wikipedia's old license was the GFDL which was slightly more painful to comply with, IIRC. You probably shouldn't use anything licensed under fair use unless your use also qualifies as fair use, or you have come to some arrangement with the copyright holder.

It does become somewhat tricky, because image creators/uploaders may attach different requirements to use, or license an image under multiple licenses (pick whichever one best suits your requirements), and Commons allows uploaders to any number of free licenses. Unfortunately, you can't really make a hard and fast rule about these, and just have to work them out when you find a picture you like. --143.117.196.183 (talk) 10:30, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks IP, that's a great start. When noting where an image came from, does wiki have a preferred style? Eg. "Courtesy of Wikipedia" or sosuch? Ranger Steve (talk) 12:00, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

The copyright holder who you must give attribution to is not Wikipedia or Wikimedia (for Commons images) but the person who holds the copyright and freely licensed that copyright. For example, if I freely licensed an image at the Commons, you would need to attribute the work to me and must mention the license type and link to the license (to http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/) Here's an example of CC-BY-SA compliance: Business Week. See also Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia. By the way, this site is called Wikipedia, not wiki. A wiki is any website using wiki software; there are thousands of them.Template:Z30--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:32, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, I should have been more clear about that - the attributee(?) is the individual or organisation who produced the image, not Wikipedia itself (unless eg. the Wikimedia Foundation produced an image) --143.117.196.183 (talk) 13:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you both very much, that'll give my friends enough to go on I'm sure. Out of interest, do you think it might be worth opening a discussion about labelling images with very clear tags for people who want to reproduce them? The current set up isn't particularly crystal and given that more and more people use images from wiki(pedia) both on and offline nowadays (I've even seen reputable organisations label images as © Wikimedia Commons), do you think its worth opening a discussion at the pump about it? A big label saying how to attribute an image depending on the licence might be a useful standard. Ranger Steve (talk) 17:08, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it's a glaring hole both here and especially at the Commons. The instructions are very hard to follow without examples. I think we should have pages at both sites entitled something like Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content/compliant examples which provide exactly that, actual images (and text) with compliant notices (at the least for the GFDL and CC-BY-SA) with clear explanations. It's almost astounding that this doesn't already exist, given how much our licensing is an integral part of both sites, and how much of a vested interest we have in fostering compliance. Besides all the constant non-compliance we see, which may be a result of nothing but an inability to understand what is needed, I wonder how many people were intending to use text and/or images but threw up their hands in frustration when they couldn't figure out how to comply with the licenses and abandoned the attempt. I think I'll make that page (maybe not tonight).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:30, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Only qualify for one?

What if you only qualify for one of the conditions on WP:service awards? I have 2001 edits as of this posting and I have been on Wikipedia (on this account) for about 1 ¹/₂ months now. The demand is 6 months to become a Journeyman Editor. What should I do, stay an apprentice editor? --Chemicalinterest (talk) 12:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually, you're still a novice editor. You should generally wait until both conditions are met before upgrading your service award. You can also use this template to automate the process. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 189° 6' 45" NET 12:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

What we have here is a particular informal award that only has meaning that is assigned it (by the small number of users even aware of them). You are not an "apprentice editor" except to the extent you assign a degree of meaning to the labels the awards contain. Certainly, these classifications in the awards do not arise from some external and well established hierarchy of editor levels, nor does having a "higher" level give you any added rights or a "lower" level reflect badly on you or take away any abilities. But if you are going to invest yourself in these awards, then you must follow their defined parameters, or change the way the thresholds for the award are defined. So, live with being disabled from being anything other than the level you can have based on the thresholds presently defined, or go to the talk page and start lobbying for a change you think appropriate. I don't think you should spend the time though. While I do think that barnstars, service awards and the like serve a good and needed social function here, I also think investing a lot of time in them (or worrying about them) can be put to better use.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I just got rid of them. They are only for slow editors. --Chemicalinterest (talk) 14:12, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Spanish vandal

How do I link numerous IP Spanish addresses such as 83.38.89.212 (talk · contribs), all of which seem to be the same fellow? Kittybrewster ☎ 13:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

You'll need a checkuser to actually link them together. If the IPs are vandalising Wikipedia or being disruptive, you may want to report them here for investigation. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 202° 13' 30" NET 13:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

eutimes.net

How do I get this site added to unreliable sources? ... and banned. Kittybrewster ☎ 13:33, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. You'll have to explain why it should be banned, though. TNXMan 13:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Interwikis displaying twice at WP:MCQ?

The list of interwikis at WP:MCQ includes two links to de:Wikipedia:Urheberrechtsfragen, two to he:ויקיפדיה:זכויות יוצרים/שאלות ותשובות, and two to zh-yue:媒體版權問題. Any idea how and why this is happening? The code includes only one link to each. Nyttend (talk) 13:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. A quick glance didn't turn up an obvious solution. Perhaps there is a transcluded page/template with an interwiki link not wrapped in a "noinclude"? TNXMan 13:53, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

The MCQ header template (Wikipedia:Media copyright questions/Header) includes those links too - perhaps all of the categories and all of the interwiki links should all be in the header? -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 13:55, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Good catch. If you look at the header, there is something odd going on with the noinclude/includeonly at the bottom. Perhaps they are trying to say that the German, Hebrew, and Chinese Wikipedias have a related header, in addition to the related MCQ page? TNXMan 13:58, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I've been bold and moved all the interwiki links to the header template. The bottom interwiki link is to the MCQ header template on the other wiki, hence the noinclude -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:00, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

This is odd; I always assumed that MediaWiki would only display a single interwiki link even if the template and the page had the same interwiki link. It works that way with categories: if the template and the article are both made part of the category (without noinclude or includeonly tags), it only displays the category once on a page. Thanks for the help! Nyttend (talk) 14:44, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

zh-yue:媒體版權問題 does not exist; the link is at zh-yue:Wikipedia:媒體版權問題 Kayau Voting IS evil 12:43, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

There were lots of problems in the page. I finally managed to fix them all... I'm really surprised that no one noticed the problem. Kayau Voting IS evil 12:55, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Adding a journal reference to an article

How do I add a published scientific journal article to Wikipedia entry "John Kanzius". I need to add the article to the reference list and cite the number in the text. Thank you.

Editor, The Journal of Experimental Therapeutics and Oncology —Preceding unsigned comment added by Annulatelamella (talk • contribs) 14:39, 15 June 2010

You will need to find the sentence/paragraph in the Wikipedia article you wish to reference. After the sentence/paragraph, add

<ref>{{cite journal |last1= |first1= |last2= |first2= |year= |title= |journal= |publisher= |volume= |issue= |pages= |url= |doi= }}</ref>

filling in the appropriate fields. An explanation of the fields can be found at {{cite journal}}. Post here again if you have further questions.TNXMan 14:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

More instructions are in WP:CITE, WP:CITET, and WP:FOOT. --Teratornis (talk) 20:19, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

If you don't have time to figure out how Wikipedia does it, just tell us the reference, what claim in the John Kanzius article the reference supports, and someone else can add it for you. What is the Digital object identifier of the reference? --Teratornis (talk) 20:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Internet Explorer 8 no longer defaulting to search box

On the www.wikipedia.org web page, I have been accustomed to just typing my search as soon the page finishes loading. A couple of days ago this was no longer working. I now have to click on the search box before I can start typing in it. It still works on other pages such as Google and Bing, so I don't think it is a browser issue. I have tried this on several PCs with the same result. Also, it seems to work fine in other browsers. Internet Explorer 8 is my browser of choice, however and like I said, it was working up until very recently. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.198.236.89 (talk) 14:45, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Where does one see the flagged revisions edits?

I saw on the news that flagged revisions starts today.

How can one see the proposed edits that are submitted?

Is there a list of flagged revisions articles? The news said that Mr. Bush is one of them and that a magnifying glass symbol would be present. Top right corner?

Can one see what edits were rejected?

Is there a list of security guards approving or rejecting the edits?

Who are these security guards? Administrators only?

Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 15:14, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

• You can read about the changes at Wikipedia:Pending changes - it explains what will happen, what editors will see when they try to edit, and who can review and accept the pending changes (basically, members of the reviewer and admin groups) -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

List of newest accounts

Hi all. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to find a list of newest registered accounts on Wikipedia?

It would also be useful if there is a way to see a list of most recent edits ordered temporally?

Many thanks if any of this is possible. Lucidwave (talk) 16:31, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

• Special:Log/newusers gives newest registered accounts, Special:RecentChanges gives the most recent edits and Special:NewPages gives the most recent pages created -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 16:43, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
• Another (probably more complete) list of accounts is at Special:ListUsers; there are options to sort by creation date and to only show users who have edited. snigbrook (talk) 02:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks both of you! That is very helpful. Can I also ask if there is any way to filter edits by time rather than just that list of most recent edits? i.e. can I see the edits made on a specific date in the past? Thanks again Lucidwave (talk) 08:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Kind of. For any given user, I can also enter a date into their Special:Contributions page and see what they've done before a certain time. And for a mix of your first two ideas, a list of recent edits by the newest accounts: Special:RecentChanges/newbies. Regards, {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 08:49, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The list is at Special:Contributions/newbies; Special:RecentChanges/newbies shows recent changes, but not only by new users. snigbrook (talk) 12:32, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

How should I convert currencies?

I'm looking at a page which currently has the wrong figure in GBP -- it's got £5.5m down, when in actual fact the number should be €5.5m. However, as the page is English it should be in GBP for context according to the MOS. How should I go about converting it without nudging perilously close to OR? Or is it just fine to put in £4.6m? AllynJ (talk | contribs) 17:00, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

It is not original research to do routine calculations. However, one thing I would think could get tricky in these situations is the date of the conversion—is the conversion fixed as to a specific date and that made clear by context, so that the exchange rate is also fixed?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:26, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Yep, 10 June, 2010. On 2010–11 Chelsea F.C. season, with regards to Stoch's transfer. Sounds like it's okay, then, thanks. :) Is there a template to use to make sure everything conforms? AllynJ (talk | contribs) 17:32, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

If the player is notable, the transfer may have been widely reported. Search the Web for other sources about it. Maybe one of them will list the figure in GBP, and you can cite that with a footnote reference. How do you know what the actual number is? What is your source, and what exactly did it say? --Teratornis (talk) 18:27, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

The problem is, Chelsea (the selling team) reported it as "undisclosed" ([1]), but Fenerbahce (the buying team) were annoyed at false news reports and so clarified it as being €5.5m (translated link here). I've been looking around for a while and haven't seen any reliable sources give the figure in pounds. I've cited the €5.5m, and it has the date on it, even if the source is in Turkish, so it should be fine I would've thought. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 20:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Business Cited Incorrectly in the "Freestone, CA" entry

To Whom it May Concern,

I am the Marketing Admin for Osmosis Day Spa Sanctuary in Freestone, CA. I was doing a search on our company in Wikipedia, and noticed that our company name is listed incorrectly, I created a user profile and attempted to edit the content myself, but the particular text containing the inaccuracy is not available to me.

Our correct company name is, Osmosis Day Spa Sanctuary. I would like to link the company name to our official website; http://www.osmosis.com/ We feature the only Cedar Enzyme Bath in North America and I would like to be able to add that information into the listing- and use our official site as the reference source.

Please let me know if I missed the way to correct it myself- thank you for your assistance!

Melena Moore Marketing Administrator Osmosis Day Spa Sanctuary <blanked> www.osmosis.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Melebea (talk • contribs) 17:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a business directory and I would not expect to see a local business mentioned in a town's article. I see that another editor has removed that paragraph from the Freestone, California article. Welcome to Wikipedia, BTW; you might like to explore some of the links I've left on your talk page -- John of Reading (talk) 19:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

2 dias sin badoo

tengo 2 dias en los q me resulto imposible mi entrada en badoo ,pues dice estar durmiendo. agradeceria me informaran del problema atentamente nieves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.55.118.31 (talk) 19:08, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Haga su pregunta aquí: es:Wikipedia:Consultas.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Blocked account creation...

Can blocked accounts create new users via the signup form? ^Avicenna_sis tb? @ 21:16, 3 Tamuz 5770 / 15 June 2010 (UTC)

It depends -- there's a flag to prevent that, which is usually applied to vandal accounts, for example. In any case, that's block evasion which is sure to get you even more blocked. (see Wikipedia:Blocking policy for more) Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 21:22, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, to be more specific: Would a user under a username only block be able to create a new account while signed in to the blocked account? ^Avicenna_sis tb? @ 21:25, 3 Tamuz 5770 / 15 June 2010 (UTC)

If a user is allowed to create an account, then it's usually* encouraged. It's typical to encourage users blocked only for their username to create a new account. More bad-faith users typically won't be able to create a new account either logged into their blocked account, or logged out if they're using the same IP as they recently used when they got blocked. Admins usually turn that off for good-faith username vios. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 21:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks! :) ^Avicenna_sis tb? @ 21:36, 3 Tamuz 5770 / 15 June 2010 (UTC)

It would probably have been easier to just say 'yes it is possible from a blocked account', but it's up to the admin and the type of block they use. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 21:44, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

June 16

Can't create an account

Trying to create an account as requested. Every username I try is flagged as being used, try a new one. Can't move on from this. Please help. 00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)00:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.148.158 (talk)

You didn't mention any of the tried usernames so we cannot examine them. There are more than 12 million taken usernames, and names too similar to a taken name may also be disallowed. See Special:ListUsers. If you have problems with a username not listed there then please post the username and the exact message you get. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:58, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Also, you may be able to usurp a taken name. See WP:USURP. Dismas|^(talk) 01:02, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

You need to have an account before usurping another account, so that is pretty pointless. Just create an unique account. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 03:13, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Right. But the IP could create an account under a name that they don't want. Establish themselves. Then usurp a name they do want. Dismas|^(talk) 05:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

is someone else passing off my ip address as their own?

Hello, I'm a frequent visitor to Wiipedia but have neither created an account or ever edited a page, so I was quite confused to recieve a User Talk message saying

"... Unfortunately, one or more of your edits to the page List of fashion designers have not conformed to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and have been reverted."

Any ideas what might have happened here? There is no chance anyone else could have used this IP (a netbook) to make any edits either. L'il help?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.23.246 (talk) 00:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Just ignore it. You likely have what is called a dynamic IP, one that can be assigned to various different people at different times. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:43, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

K. thnx! bai ;-D

See also the box at the bottom of User talk:89.242.23.246. The mentioned edit to List of fashion designers is here. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:51, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

"Bump"

Answered

 – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 06:29, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Is it impolite to "bump" your discussion when a bot comes along? I posted a question in a seldom-frequented talk page, and suddenly a bot took the top spot. So I added a space, marked the edit as minor, and now I'm hoping it'll be seen by some editors. However, is this considered rude or impolite? I would never do this against any actual editor, and I've been "one-upped" by bots in the past—but this is my first time doing that. If it's not cool to do it, then I'll refrain completely in the future. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 03:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

You seem to refer to your edits to Talk:Colorado. On Wikipedia, we don't use the word "bump" to describe this. It seems you made what we call a dummy edit. However, the edit summary you left might not make sense to other Wikipedia editors. The "top spot" you refer to seems to be on the history of the talk page. The bot you refer to is a standard archiving bot, which Wikipedia editors know to ignore. There is nothing wrong with making a dummy edit after a bot edit; that would also keep your edit's entry appearing at the top of any user's watch lists that include this page. However, I wouldn't expect this to be necessary. Any Wikipedia editors who look at the talk page will know to skim down it to spot any unanswered or unresolved questions. But that might take a while; this talk page gets few views, which is a common problem on Wikipedia. Since your question relates to language, you might get faster response on Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language. --Teratornis (talk) 04:27, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Additionally, some users like myself, hide bot edits in their watchlist. Every so often bots will go through and make a single change to dozens of articles and it's annoying to some to see a page full of bot edits and then have to try to look through the noise to see the actual person edits. Dismas|^(talk) 05:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Great replies, thank you both! Teratornis, thanks for clarifying, I wasn't sure what it was called (but I knew "bump" would be recognized in context); also, excellent suggestion, I will take it up at the language desk. Dismas, I completely forgot you could ignore bots. I will do this immediately. Glad to know I wasn't doing anything out of line. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 06:29, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I've made a (not very helpful) comment at Talk:Colorado. Deor (talk) 13:19, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Unsigned comment by 74.104.31.56 (talk • contribs • info • WHOIS)

I lost my high School Diploma and need to get a new one. how do I go around of doing that when my diploma was issued by the Lowell Correctional Ins.? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.104.31.56 (talk) 03:06, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 PleaseStand ^(talk) 03:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Kinda new here...

What is a title blacklist? Is it supposed to block the creation of certain articles? If yes to the second question, how can I still be able to edit Magyar nem ember, Jimmy dummy and such? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 08:53, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

The title blacklist is basically a set of disallowed titles for articles, largely because they are part of a recognizable pattern of vandalism (HAGGAR?!? for example) which are highly unlikely to actually be a useful article title. If you have a legitimate article which needs one of these titles, and admin can create the article for you. Once created, the article can be edited freely. --Jayron32 05:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

No, I meant like, if its on a blacklist, isn't the article supposed to be created only by admins? I'm autoconfirmed, and yet I can still create it... (Also, I created Jimmy dummy as a test) :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 05:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure those are on the title blacklist? You shouldn't be able to create them if they are... --Jayron32 05:27, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean by "blacklist?" There are blacklisted article names, for example, creating the HAGGAR?!?! line of articles (as explained above), or SALTed articles, which only admins can create. I don't think even admins can create those on blacklists. There's also a throttle disallow if I have a new account and try to create articles including or closely matching my username. For example, User:FakeUserGoesHere creating a Fake User Corporation article. —Duncan^{What I Do} / _{What I Say} 05:35, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Titleblacklist contains throttleable blacklisting. It looks like the titles listed above are ONLY blacklisted for new users, while autoconfirmed users can create them. There are other titles which are move-only blacklist. I think that admins are exempt from the blacklist altogether. --Jayron32 05:40, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Correct. Both admins and account creators have the "tboverride" right, which allows them to override the title blacklist. ^Avicenna_sis tb? @ 05:43, 4 Tamuz 5770 / 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 05:46, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Signature problem

Is a while that when I sign a comment with the Signature Button it doesn't work properly. My name is displayed but the links to my talk and user page are not activeated and than comes the bot to sing for again me. I looked for similar issues but I found just this one that was left unresolved http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2009_October_18#Problems_with_my_signature_button Even if the answer is quite old, I went to the page indicated, but I'm not sure where exactly I should post and if is the right place for my issue. Maybe in the meanwhile has someone an answer for me? Thanks in advance! --Dia^ 06:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dia^ (talk • contribs)

Hello, please untick the little box in Special:Preferences that says "sign my name using the provided wikitext". It should fix it. Cheers, {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 07:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm testing now. Thanks for your help! And it is working! --Dia^ (talk) 11:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Eliminating Duplicate Userboxes by merge?

Is it possible to merge two userboxes? There are currently two variants of the University of Iowa userbox. One is used far more frequently than the other and there is only supposed to be one userbox per institution.

Macmanui (talk) 06:31, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

My recommendation would be to start a discussion on the talkpage of one of the userboxes (I'd go for the most frequently used on) and have a link to the discussion on the talkpage of the other userbox). Get a consensus for which version should be the "official" one - then have a redirect to it from the other userbox. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 06:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Copy Right Permission ( to add on my Website)

Hi

In need your expertise in the following matter.

I am in the process to make website for a new small real estate business. I would like to add a category Victorian Suburbs, wherein I like to add the data of all the Victorian Suburbs. Following is an example: I need your permission (copy right) to add the data of all Victorian Suburbs similar to the following in my website: Please help me ASAP.

Richmond is a suburb in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 2 km south-east from Melbourne's central business district. Its Local Government Area is the City of Yarra. At the 2006 Census, Richmond had a population of 22,475.

Richmond, Melbourne, Victoria

View of the Pelaco factory between two art deco period houses Population: 22,475 (2006) [1]

Established: 19th century Postcode:3121 Area: 3.8 km² (1.5 sq mi) Property Value: AUD $605,000 [2]

Location: 2 km (1 mi) from Melbourne

LGA:City of Yarra

State District:Richmond

Federal Division:Melbourne

Suburbs around Richmond:

Collingwood, Abbotsford, Kew, East Melbourne, Richmond Hawthorn, Cremorne, South Yarra, Burnley

Please reply ASAP. Thank you for your help.

Regards

Sajjad Haider E-mail <removed for privacy> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.238.9.164 (talk) 07:49, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Please refer to Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. You do not need our explicit permission to reuse content on Wikipedia. That permission is implicit in the license, which you must still abide by, as described at the linked page. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:51, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Need to update the wikipedia entry on the organisation I work for

Hi

The entry for the Health Protection Agency (HPA) is out of date and needs updating. I work for the HPA and I don't seem to be able to update the content as Wikipedia insists that I have a conflict of interest. Please could you help me, the updated content is from the HPA annual report and is in the public domain. It is simple factual information. The updated content can be found on the discussion page of the Health Protection Agency wikipedia page.

Thanks

194.74.226.190 (talk) 08:15, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

You do have a conflict of interest, but that's not why your edits were reverted. They were reverted for failing to adhere to the neutral point of view. The "updated" version read like a press release or an official website, rather than an encyclopedic article. The difference is that an encyclopedic article only quotes, summarizes, and paraphrases what has been reported in reliable, disinterested sources, and in the same tone. It is not written with fluffy statements approved by the company the article is about. Also, please stick to one account. Failing to do so will only make a block from editing inevitable. Someguy1221 (talk) 08:52, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi

Thanks for your prompt reply. I apologise for using multiple accounts, it's my first time trying to edit a Wikipedia entry. Can you recommend a way forward? I can certainly re-write the article so that it has a neutral tone and references other reliable sources. The HPA is a non-departmental public body and the NHS are the sponsoring body.

Many thanks 194.74.226.190 (talk) 11:06, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I would certainly recommend you to create an account first. It gives you a lot of benefits, including your own userspace to work on your draft and tell people who you are. When your accoutn is 4 days old and you have made 10 edits with it, you can also do other things such as renaming a page and uploading pictures. Kayau Voting IS evil 12:32, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

But because of the conflict of interest, I would suggest that except when you are correcting uncontroversial referenced factual information, you discuss on the article's Talk page the information you would like to see changed, so that a disinterested editor can make the change. You should certainly include references: another editor could search for them, but it is you who are wanting the article changed. You can use the company's own publications for simple factual information, but for anything else the references must be independent of the company. --ColinFine (talk) 23:26, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

SD-TTSurekh Font not recognised by the wiki editor. Need help in exporting an english article with Sanskrit font (SD-TTSurekh - Devanagari). This is my second posting. Please Help !!

SD-TTSurekh Font not recognised by the wiki editor. Need help in exporting an english article with Sanskrit font (SD-TTSurekh - Devanagari). This is my second posting. Please Help !! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.165.2.239 (talk) 08:53, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea! But there is a [Sanskrit wikipedia], with help pages on editing in Sanskrit. If you can't see an answer there, I suggest you ask at their help desk. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Guides Logo

The trefoil logo used on the Girlguiding Scotland page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlguiding_Scotland, is very out of date and is being used without the permission of Girlguiding Scotland. The current Girlguiding Scotland logo can be taken from the Girlguiding Scotland homepage at: http://www.girlguidingscotland.org.uk/. If anyone could upload the current logo that would be much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.42.73 (talk) 11:14, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

'being used without the permission of Girlguiding Scotland' is acceptable because it qualifies as fair use under the United States law, and Wikipedia's servers are located in the US. If you want to replace the image, then complete the following steps:

1. Create an account
2. Wait 4 days
3. Make 10 edits (ie changes) (this can be done simultaneously along with 2)
4. Click on the picture
5. Click on upload new version
6. Upload the new version
7. Update the info on the image's page
8. There you go.
9. Then again, it's likely that someone else will go and do all this.

Kayau Voting IS evil 12:29, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

There was some discussion on this at Girlguiding Scotland a month ago, but there was no response. Is there a brand guide that we can refer to? You can also discuss this at WT:SCOUT. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:12, 16 June 2010 (UTC) (WikiProject Scouting)

Can wikipedia content be copied/pasted to create another webpage?

Hi guys,

Recently I ran into this webpage right after having been looking at wikipedia's "Don Quixote" page. It is exactly the same, has just been copied and pasted. Just thought I'd let you know in case they are violating copyrights.

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definitions/Don_Quixote?cx=partner-pub-0939450753529744%3Av0qd01-tdlq&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=Don_Quixote&sa=Search#906 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.74.177.209 (talk) 11:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Copies are allowed, provided they acknowledge Wikipedia. This site appears to: when the page (eventually!) loads, it has Source: adapted by the editor from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia under a copyleft GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) from the article "Don Quixote" at the bottom. TFOWR 11:42, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Heh, loads of people at my school copy and paste Wikipedia for their homework :D Where would we be without Wikipedia?! Chevymontecarlo - alt 12:04, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Heh, kids these days! When I was a lad we had to type our homework-cheat requests on to punched cards, and then wait seven months for the results to be mailed to us! And we were grateful! TFOWR 12:07, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm still a kid. In primary school 4 out of 5 people copied Wikipedia for school projects. And now in secondary school some people still do it. Not me, though. (Partly because my topic is too obscure to appear on WP.) :D Kayau Voting IS evil 12:24, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Pending changes' impact on Lupin's AVT

Will AVT be affected by pending changes?

• If IP X vandalises protected page A, and before IP X did that, IP Y had made a constructive edit to page A, but that version was not yet reviewed. If I roll back IP X's edit via Lupin's AVT, will my edit be marked as reviewed automatically? Or will I be directed to the diff between my edit and the last stable version? Or will none of these happen at all and my edit will not be marked as reviewed?
• It will also be helpful if someone can provide a table of differences between pending changes and the flaggerevs used on other projects.

Kayau Voting IS evil 12:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Fair Use

I was not sure, if I could post this question on Wikipedia talk:Non-free content: is it possible to upload this picture under a "fair use"-rationale in order to use it in Edwin Sutherland? -- Wo st 01 (talk | rate) 13:05, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

You could certainly post the question at that notice board as well. Sutherland died sixty years ago, so there is no possibility of creating a new free image of him. I would think that uploading the image to Wikipedia would be acceptable under our non-free content policy--Elen of the Roads (talk) 14:58, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, will do that. -- Wo st 01 (talk | rate) 17:48, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

hi

Hi can u please tell me what RESERVED means?As in a more reserved person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.148.8 (talk) 14:37, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

It usually means quieter or less likely to be talkative. You can read more at the wiktionary entry. TNXMan 14:41, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

CALA Page removal

Resolved

 – John of Reading (talk) 09:53, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi there,

In browsing Wikipedia, a reference was made to CALA in an ISO 17025 standards page. An elaboration was made to CALA and its acronym and the information was speedy deleted. I posted a comment on the editors talk page to this regard and asked how I could post information appropriately. I am affiliated with the organization, but am in no way trying to promote it, only to further the information that was started by someone else. I only requested information on how to update the content, that was all. I have received no response, my question has been removed, an acronym to the name has been removed and I can no longer post on the users talk page due to be "unauthorized".

Any help would be appreciated. I am not a vandal or sock puppet, just a fellow reader.

Thanks,

Labexcellence (talk) 15:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Judging by the messages on your talk page, you tried to add content or create a page about The Canadian Association for Laboratory Accreditation by copying material from their web site. This would be a copyright violation, since every page there is tagged "© 2010 CALA Inc". Also, since you are affiliated with the organisation, you are not the right person to write such an article; see the conflict of interest guidelines.

However, if you can find reliable sources that are independent of CALA Inc that demonstrate that the company is notable, then you could ask that an article be created using the sources that you've found. But, I must point out that most companies don't pass this notability test and don't have a Wikipedia article. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:55, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi John of Reading,

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I will do my best to try and find impartial, notable references to the work that CALA does on the international scene that has enhanced laboratory data quality and the effects that has had on things like drinking water quality and other such facets of daily life. I will submit a request for an article to be created and linked from the ISO 17025 reference I found originally. Thanks again for your time.

Labexcellence (talk) 18:24, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

parking

is it possible to leave my car by the oliver tambo air port whilist i fly to uk, and pick it on my coming back after two wks. i stay in botswana —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.138.73.144 (talk) 16:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 TNXMan 16:07, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

change my page name

How would I be able to change the my page name?

or in the case start over/ delete my current page?

Packaging Corporation of America (talk) 16:14, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

You can request deletion of your page by placing {{db-u1}} at the top of your page. Please note however, that your page apparently is an advertisement. This is not allowed. I would encourage you to read our guide to conflict of interest. TNXMan 16:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

It appears that you are confused about the purpose of Wikipedia. This is not Facebook or MySpace. Your user page is information about you - the user. It is not a business card for the company that you work for. What you appear to be asking is: "How can I change my username?" See WP:RENAME. -- kainaw™ 16:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I recently created a Userspace Draft and I'm not sure how to get it posted (I've tried to figure it out myself and have become hopeless)

I have created the Userspace Draft and adhered to all of the rules, but I'm not sure what the next step is. Can anybody help me out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evanrosskatz (talk • contribs) 17:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The instructions are here, but another editor has seen your question and has moved the page for you. It is now Michael Friedman (composer). -- John of Reading (talk) 18:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Autofilling comments filter

I just noticed this edit: [2] The anonymous user nicely added wikilinks around a single phrase and "Filter 135" tagged it with "repeating characters". Not only is this unneccessary, but it is very bitey. I notice the filter which I normally find useful in catching simple vandalism has a number of comments on it about false positives and problems. Who is in charge of this anyway? Can it be improved? Rmhermen (talk) 17:58, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that doesn't look good. Are you aware of Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports? -- John of Reading (talk) 18:27, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Rmhermen (talk) 18:32, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Links to resources for parents (books) or support groups (external links)

What is the policy on a "Resources for parents" section in an article about a mental disorder in children, such as Bipolar disorder in children? Personally, I think this section can be way too long and furthermore, it is really difficult to check if these resources are any good. So I would like to remove it, but I thought I check with you first. And related to this question, what about an External links section with support groups? I removed the entire External links section in Codependency, but was reverted. I can't see that links to support groups confirm with WP:ELYES but I might be wrong. The edit comment was "DMOZ Links are widely accepted on Wikipedia" but I don't understand what DMOZ links are. Lova Falk talk 18:29, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Looking at the contributions for the IP user who reverted you, it would appear that DMOZ is intended to refer to DMOZ, the Open Directory Project. But that only answers a small part of your question. I would !vote for reducing the number of links per WP:EL and Wikipedia does not give (implied) medical advice.

I'd like some more experienced editors to review this answer, though. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:48, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

But if I would reduce the numbers of links, which ones to choose? Lova Falk talk 19:02, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I've removed most of them. In my opinion, links to top-level domains seem promotional. Links should go to pages with specific information on a topic, not to vague "resources for (X)". Just my two cents. TNXMan 19:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

HELP

I do not get this site at all. Please help me with starting an article, I do not get how to start one, where you start one, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lookin4work (talk • contribs) 19:15, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia can be intimidating for new users. Don't let it get you down. I've left some standard advice below this message. If you have further questions, just ask here.

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. TNXMan 19:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Stubs

What stub category would this article fall under: Powers Music School? As a side note, is their an easier way to find a category than trawling through the category page? Simeon24601 (talk) 19:51, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

We have a very user-friendly list of all stub types. From that page, it looks like {{US-northeast-school-stub}} is the best fit. Intelligentsium 19:59, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I've always found it easiest to look at similarly situated topics both to find the appropriate categories and the correct stub tags, by looking at those categories. If I know a similarly situated topic I just go there, and if I don't, I simply do a Google search. For example, were I writing an article on a British saxophonist, I might Google just that with a limiter: <"british saxophonist" site:en.wikipedia.org> (which returns 34 pages). Then to the categories on that page, open a few articles at random in new tabs, and almost always find the correct stub tag (and if there are no stubs, then to a page history, and look at the earliest revisions).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:37, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Good faith misuse of DAB page

Resolved

 – Redrose64 (talk) 21:30, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, there's a page called IAPA which until a few days ago was a pure dab page. It now looks as if somebody's constructing a non-dab article in there, which by rights should be in a separate page. I would userfy the extra content, but it's all been added by anons. I know nothing about the new stuff, so am not in a position to write the new article myself. What should I do about it? Simplest is to revert to the last clean version (which with all those ELs and redlinks isn't that clean itself), but are there alternatives? --Redrose64 (talk) 20:06, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I've cleaned up some. I've reverted all of the new content, as this page wasn't the correct place for it and tidied up the disambig page. TNXMan 20:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you --Redrose64 (talk) 21:30, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

how to change a draft page into a wikipedia page

After creating a draft page how does one change it into a wikipedia page?

Where is the FAQ answer to how to do this?

Wandsworthpark (talk) 21:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Since you asked, the FAQ answer, copied directly, is:

Registered users with a little bit of editing history under their belts can move a page; this moves the page content and edit history to a new title, and creates a redirect page at the old title. This method is better than just copying and pasting the content by hand, as it preserves the article's history, as required by Wikipedia's license. Use the "Move this page" tab at the top of the article to perform a move or rename. Once you have moved a page, please click the "What links here" link in the "toolbox" in the left column and fix the links to the old page (which will be labelled as a redirect in the "What links here" list). See How to rename (move) a page for more details.

—WP:EFAQ#RENAME

Intelligentsium 22:04, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

However, you will need about three more edits and four more days at Wikipedia before you will be allowed to move pages (this is an inconvenience, but necessary to prevent vandalism). Assuming the page you are referring to is User:Wandsworthpark/Wandsworth Park, it seems you need a few more sources to establish notability before it will be ready for the mainspace. Intelligentsium 22:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Old Format

A few weeks ago, Wikipedia suddenly had this new and unpleasant page format. It said I could opt to keep the old familiar page format, and I did so. Now it is back to the new (hard to use) format, and I can't find a way to correct this. How do I go back to the old format ??

Please reply to <email address removed>

ALA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.96.49 (talk) 22:13, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The new, default skin is called 'Vector'; the older one is called 'Monobook'.

You cannot change the default skin unless you create an account - but it's very quick, easy and free to do so, and there are lots of benefits.

Once you have an account, go to the "Skin" section of the Appearance tab of the page my preferences. With the default skin, this page can be accessed at anytime from the link "my preferences" placed on the top right corner. Choose your skin (ie "Monobook" for the older type) and click Save. Then, all pages will be loaded with the new selected skin. For a complete description, see Help:Preferences#Skin.

Note, I will also answer this prospective new Wikipedian via email - but using an email address on this page is not a good idea (you might get spam), so I removed it. Chzz  ►  22:42, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Move articles

How do I move articles? There was a button before but cant find it now. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 22:38, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Look at the image to the right. It should be under the inverted triangle tab. If you had the "Add page and user options to drop-down menus on the toolbar." gadget enabled, it should be under the "Page" tab just at the left of the search bar, third link one down. Intelligentsium 22:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, found it now, thank you. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 22:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The move option in the new "Vector" skin appears when you move your mouse cursor over the small drop-down menu, shown here. (Other users may not have the "TW", which is the optional gadget, twinkle)

Before this was answered, I decided to draw this little pic - a lot of people have trouble finding this, so I thought it might come in useful. Best,  Chzz  ►  23:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Yodel Australia?

Hello,

I created an article on Yodel Australia. I spent quite a bit of time on it, I added sources and wrote it in a way that was attempting to provide non-bias information. However, when I had a look today, it had been deleted. Could you please please explain to me why this was? Also is there something I can do about it and provide some more information?

Email me back please: <redacted>

Cheers Nathanael —Preceding unsigned comment added by Natkolk (talk • contribs) 23:29, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you want them to be permanently removed from the page history, please email this address. That aside, it's probably best to contact the deleting administrator. Robert Skyhawk ^{(T C B)} 23:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The page Yodel Australia has actually been created and deleted four times; three times for G11 - unambiguous advertising or promotion and once for containing A1 - insufficient context to identify the subject. You've had messages on your talk page explaining what has happened. The major problem with the text of that article was that it read like an attempt to promote the company, not a neutral encyclopaedia article about it. It also failed to establish that the company is notable enough to be the subject of an encyclopaedia article. The criteria for this are at WP:N#CORP. For example, take the 8 citations you supplied in the article. Of these, #s 1, 4 and 5 were directory listings; #3 was a self-published social networking profile; and #7 was the company's own website. #s 6 and 8 were news coverage, but not of the company itself - it was mentioned in passing in #6 but not at all in #8. That leaves #1, which was a news item but not a major one, and pretty obviously based on a press release. This does not amount to "substantial coverage in multiple independent sources" and is thus not sufficient proof of notability on Wikipedia.

Following the fourth deletion under the name "Yodel Australia", you reintroduced the material by overwriting a redirect page at Yodel. This was promptly re-nominated for speedy deletion. I have removed the material and restored the redirect; please see Talk:Yodel for my reasons.

If you want to try again to make an article about this company that satisfies Wikipedia criteria, I would strongly suggest that you draft it in a user sandbox space, at User:Natkolk/Yodel Australia. Read all the guidance you have been linked to, and when you think you have satisfied the various criteria, list your draft at WP:RFF to get other users' feedback on its suitability. One word of warning though - if you work for this company, or are closely connected to it in any other way, you are strongly discouraged from creating an article about it because of the potential conflict of interest. If it is genuinely notable, someone else will do so eventually. Karenjc 08:14, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

June 17

Template trouble

When I added another tab to User:The High Fin Sperm Whale/Tabs, it made the tab at the end disappear. Can someone fix this? Thanks, --The High Fin Sperm Whale 00:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Reading Template:PageTabs/doc...and it looks like 9 tabs is the max. --Onorem♠Dil 00:19, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Tags in the lede

Hi. In some articles, the lede includes footnotes, but other articles are written in a style where the lede does not have footnotes, and instead all the footnotes are later in the article. Is there a tag that can be inserted into the latter type of lede, indicating that something in the lede is not supported by the rest of the article? A "citation needed" tag would not work here, because we're talking about a lede that deliberately does not contain footnotes. Thanks in advance for being a helpful help desk.Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:30, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

I think a citation needed does work, especially coupled with an appropriate edit summary such as "{{Citation needed}}; information in lead not verified in article body". However, I think you raise a good issue. We should have a focused template for this, and I might just create it. By the way, please see Wikipedia talk:Verifiability#Two copies of a statement must each have their own inline citation?.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

(ec)There may be a better answer, but I would put the citation needed next to the unsupported statement in the lede, and accept that if someone adds the material to the body of the article, with a source, that the tag could properly be removed. --SPhilbrickT 00:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick replies. If you do create a new tag, I guess you'll list it here. If you give me a head's up, I wouldn't mind. In the mean time, I'll go with the cn tags in the lede, even though footnotes in the lede are not desired.Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:57, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

By the way, even if we're talking about a lede that contains footnotes, a fact might be footnoted in the lede but nevertheless not be mentioned or supported by the body of the article. It would look kind of silly to put a "citation needed" tag there!Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:01, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Already created: {{citation needed (lead)}} though I'm about to tweak it, including writing documentation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks again. Do I get a prize or something for suggesting it?  :-)Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:06, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

No, but sure! —mono 01:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey, that's an awesome tag. Thanks for creating it and OP for suggesting it. I will add the irony of its first use is amusing to me. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 02:03, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

I made mistake in my article title HELP!

Resolved

 – Page has been moved to the correct location

Guys here is my mistake;

Current title is: Muhammad Metwalli Aharawi It should be: Muhammad Metwali Alsharawi

URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Metwalli_Aharawi

Help! --Saab 1989 (talk) 01:53, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Moved from Help desk talk. Intelligentsium 02:07, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

User:Chzz has moved it to the correct title for you. Karenjc 07:09, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Substituting Magic Words In Templates

Resolved

Hello! How can I put , for example, {{subst:REVISONUSER}} in the template I'm making without substing it in the template, only on pages it is used with and do the same with categories? I couldn't find anything in the template development page. Thanks! ~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·Get Adopted! 03:58, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I can use a #ifeq: comparing the namespace. Nevermind. ~ QwerpQwertus ·_Contact Me_·Get Adopted! 04:07, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

You could also use {{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>REVISONUSER}}

:) ^Avicenna_sis @ 08:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Linking Commons

When you are adding {{Commons}}, is it possible to post two links. Both to a category and search page? Thanks for any helpful advice that may be posted, SwisterTwister talk

Comment: I fixed the closing "nowiki" tag and looked in the history to replace the four tildes with the correct user name -- John of Reading (talk) 04:38, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

{{Commons category}} produces a link to a category on Commons and to a search on Commons for the category name as the search keyword(s). See for example the instance in Algae fuel#External links. --Teratornis (talk) 08:19, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Adding Links to References

I seem to be having a difficult time copying certain links into articles, specially from certain sites as MSN News. When I insert the link between the reference space & then check to see if it is correct, it often says the page cannot be displayed or is just empty. Is this just the way certain web sites act, am I doing something wrong and if so, can you tell what? An example is below of an article I wanted to insert into the Death section on Maureen Forrester, but it will not work for me. You should be able to open the link here but it will not work between the references.

http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/cp-article.aspx?cp-documentid=24599329

Digby scallops (talk)

Thanks for adding a source to the death! When you were fixing the link to the MSN source, you added a slash at the end of the url ( http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/cp-article.aspx?cp-documentid=24599329/ ---note the / at the end) instead of http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/cp-article.aspx?cp-documentid=24599329. Bizarrely, that slash at the end of the first link made all the difference. liquidluck✽talk 06:57, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks so much Liquidluck!

Digby scallops (talk) 14:55, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

how do i vote to keep a person in Wikipedia who is threatened with deletion of his listing?

how do i vote to keep a person in Wikipedia who is threatened with deletion of his listing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.226.44.111 (talk) 06:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Check under Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. It details the subject for you

Digby scallops (talk) 06:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

It would be useful if you could tell us the name of the article that has been nominated for deletion. Here's some general information on how to handle each of the three methods of deletion on Wikipedia:

• If you received a notification of speedy deletion nomination, you can edit the article to type {{hangon}} on it. If the article has already been deleted, you can ask the deleting administrator for the reason.
• If you received notification of a prodded deletion nomination, you can simply remove the prod nomination to contest it. If this is a biography of a living person, you must first add a link to a reliable source backing up at least one fact in the article.
• If this is a deletion discussion, it is important to remember that deletion discussions are not a poll, but a discussion among editors. First read the nomination rationale at the top of the page, where the nominator describes why they want the page deleted. If you are confused, try asking the nominator to clarify on either his talk page or on the deletion discussion (explain you're new). Then try to address the problem. Usually, the problem is that the article does not meet a notability guideline. Figure out which one, and then try to fix it.

If you are confused, please come back and ask your questions here. liquidluck✽talk 06:47, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

CONTACT NOS. OF MR. MUSTAFA JAFFER

PLS PROVIDE ME THE TEL. NOS. OF MR. MUSTAFA JAFFER ON MY EMAIL

regds/felie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.94.141.253 (talk) 08:46, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25

I've also removed your email address (and requested that an administrator permanently remove it from the page history) to protect you from spam harvesting bots. We are unable on this page to provide responses by email even on questions that are within our scope. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:59, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Why was a Link Removed?

Hi

We have reciently had a link and content removed from the article on Berghaus.

Why has it been removed?

Our shop LD Mountain Centre is the birth place of Berhaus. The 2 people mentioned in the article PLockey and Gordon Davison are the founders of the LD Mountain Centre and the offices above the shop were the sewing rooms where Berghaus was made.

Many Thanks Jonny Scott LD Mountain Centre Website Manager www.ldmountaincentre.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by LDMC1966 (talk • contribs) 13:20, 17 June 2010 (UTC) — LDMC1966 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

User has been warned about conflict of interest by another editor, and blocked as a spamusername by --Orange Mike | Talk 13:34, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Deleting Bad Images

I'm trying to set preferences so that items on the bad image list will not come up when someone goes to that page. Can't figure out how to do it, though it is talked about..? thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hockey16 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Please follow the instructions at User:Mr.Z-man/badimages. If you still have problems please drop another note here. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:33, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you I think I have done it and will drop a note if I find out otherwise. Appreciate the help! Hockey16 (talk) 14:47, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Cape buffalo in Cape Agulhas

When last were cape buffalo in the cape agulhas area? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.209.167.176 (talk) 14:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Please use a descriptive title in future questions.

This Help Desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. For general knowledge questions, please go to Wikipedia:Reference desk. --Mysdaao ^talk 14:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Help

lt posterocentral disc protrusions at L5-S1 with LT neural exit foramen compromise what care or treatment i should take doctor told to do operation but i dont want to do operation and now i taking massage please how can i improve my problem pls sir help me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.248.0.235 (talk) 14:51, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

We cannot offer medical advice. Please see the medical disclaimer. Contact your General Practitioner. --Mysdaao ^talk 15:09, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

The Partnership for a Drug-Free America

Please remove the Partnership logo from our page on your site as we are rebranding and instituting a new logo. Thank you 209.48.77.226 (talk) 14:59, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

When the new logo has been released, File:PD-FA.jpg can be updated. Until then, I see no reason to remove the logo that is there on Partnership for a Drug-Free America because it is still the current logo for the organization. --Mysdaao ^talk 15:13, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Magnesium

WHICH FRUITS, VEGETABLES OR GRAINS PROVIDE MAGNESIUM TO THE HUMAN BODY? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.126.200.233 (talk) 19:06, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 TNXMan 19:12, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Unable to edit original successfully

I have tried over several days to edit the original article ("Gerald Sutton") but cannot transfer the changed text to the final. The article in its present form is a severely truncated version of the original. Can you instruct me how to get out of this dead end.21:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suttgera1 (talk • contribs)

Since the article is not protected, nor recently protected, you should be able to edit it without problem but you have no edits to it. Accordingly, I can only think of a few things you might have encountered: 1) "A loss of session data"—sometimes if you have an article open for a long time and try to post it will give this message and you need to copy your text, reopen the article in edit mode, paste and then click save. 2) The edit filter is stopping your edits—please tell us any message you see at the top when you try to save (later note: the edit filter log for your account is empty). 3) You are trying to include in your edits an external link that is blacklisted—again, what messages, if any, are you seeing when you try to save? and what actually happens when you try to save?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

He had some severe formatting problems that caused the article to scroll off the right edge of the screen that I corrected.—Kww(talk) 22:42, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

talk page archiving

Sorry if this is a FAQ; I don't know how to look for it without getting a thousand false matches (like "Help Desk archives"!)

I've never archived my talk page. After 4+ years it has grown bulky, with 132 sections now.

If I have a bot archive it now, will the first archive page necessarily be almost as huge, or is there a botic way to break it into, say, retroactive yearly archives? (I guess I could say "Bot, archive sections older than four years. Bot, archive sections older than three years. Bot, ...") Or, if the bot makes a single big archive, can I break it up by hand without confusing future bottery?

In programmerese: what's the most 'idiomatic' way to do this?

My talk page's readers thank you. —Tamfang (talk) 23:00, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

There are bots that will archive for you (see User:MiszaBot). You can set a page size limit and then it will start a new archive page. See my talk page (click edit to see the code at the top). Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 23:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

June 18

change a microformatted article to a form Google can find.

A few days ago I wrote an article about the song “Ciribiribin.” Google can find no article of that name in Wikipedia until I type Wikipedia first. But there was one, a very brief stub created on a “microformat/hcard” template. Whatever the benefits of “microformats,” if the result is an article that an ordinary search does not find, what use is it? I hope you folks at Wikipedia can put this article into a form where Google knows it exists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Worthing (talk • contribs) 00:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by “microformat/hcard” template. Ciribiribin is the 10th Google result on Ciribiribin for me. Clicking on Google's "Cached" link currently shows that they cached it 2 June 2010. Googlebot will automatically visit the page again at some time outside Wikipedia's control. Then the version with your edits will be cached. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Microformats refers to Wikipedia:WikiProject Microformats. As noted, it does come up high on Google's list; it was the tenth item in the list for me as well.--SPhilbrickT 00:39, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

/* Category:LGBT people of Puerto Rican descent */

I posted a comment concerning the merging of this category, and I saved it after previewing it a few times, but it is not appearing under the discussion or topic. Help? Does it take some time before the comments appear? Thanks, Bronco