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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

Capital Bicycle Club

• ... that residents reported the first cycling club in Washington, D.C. (uniform pictured), to the police over concerns that bicycles posed a danger to pedestrians?

The article does not say or claim that this was "the first cycling club in Washington", just that it was "early".

Also, the source doesn't seem to mention pedestrians specifically – just of the "dangerous potential for accidents". Perhaps a concern was the risk of collisions with horses and/or people and property in general?

Note that the hook wasn't checked in the nomination even though it included a first. It was just waved through as AGF.

Andrew🐉(talk) 06:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

I added the "first" claim to the article, citing the same source. Pinging Generalissima and BeanieFan11 to consider the other issues. Beanie, we strongly suggest additional scrutiny for "first" hooks. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

I have to take some of the blame here, since I promoted the queue. It's especially embarrassing since ranting about "first" hooks is one of the top ways I make myself annoying at WT:DYK. The unfortunate truth is that when I'm processing queues, I don't have time to read every article in full. I generally just read the hook and then search for keywords in the text to verify the facts. Looking back at the article, I suspect I found "the first such club in the country" and didn't notice this was immediately preceded by "Boston Bicycle Club".

I know this has been said before, but Andrew, you have a keen eye for detail and critical reading. These are valuable skills and in great demand at DYK, so thank you for the much-needed quality control. But it would be even more useful if it was done on the #Next DYK and #Next-but-one DYK sections, so we could catch these problems before they hit the main page. RoySmith (talk) 15:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Different point: the comma after the "(uniform pictured)" should instead come before. So, " ... Washington, D.C., (uniform pictured) to the police". JMCHutchinson (talk) 13:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Emmanuella Atora

• ... that Olympic taekwondo practitioner Emmanuella Atora described her career as "I hit people for a living"?

According to the source, what she actually said was "Je tape les gens pour vivre". This was not translated by the source and it's not clear what she meant by it as Taekwondo is not usually a professional sport while she appears to have a career as an aspiring professional model. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Also, the line was a meme already, having been used by MMA fighter Francis Ngannou a year earlier [1]. Black Kite (talk) 07:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

  Well spotted. Francis Ngannou is a successful professional fighter and so the boast works better for him. There's merchandise too... Andrew🐉(talk) 08:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "On this day"

Today's OTD

Albert Stanley is also today's FA. Should he be replaced? Mjroots (talk) 05:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

 Fixed I've swapped him for someone else. Schwede66 05:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(August 9, tomorrow)

Monday's FL

(August 12)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

Notice to administrators: When fixing POTD errors, please update the corresponding regular version (i.e. without "protected" in the page title) in addition to the Main Page version linked below.

General discussion

Joe Paterno's death

Should we include Joe Paterno's death in the "In the News" section? Yes, he was under a dark cloud the last year of his tenure, but he's still arguably the greatest college football coach ever. His death is pretty significant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheCodeman4 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi, this is currently being discussed at Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Death_of_Joe_Paterno, in case you would like to observe or take part. --Bongwarrior (talk) 21:47, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

It's too late now - it's old news. But I'd have to say it was far more important an event for the english wikipedia main page than Rushdie cancelling an engagement. Seriously? Pull your heads out guys. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.11.154.97 (talk) 14:44, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

To each his own. For example, I for one haven't the slightest idea who this Paterno chap was, bar the allegations last year. — Joseph Fox 16:15, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

And Etta James' death is still up there, but no mention of Paterno? Come on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.11.154.97 (talk) 16:18, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

MOTD

Hello, to everyone. I'm Dipankan001, and I'm from MOTD (Motto of the Day) Group. It's totally a voluntary group. I, on the behalf of MOTD, are requesting administrators to put this into the Main Page at the bottom- {{Motd Bold}}.

This produces

Today's motto...

→ Programmer - an organism that turns coffee into software.

Can anybody please do it? Dipankan ^{In the woods?} 12:17, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose. Materialscientist (talk) 12:23, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

  Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dipankan001 (talk • contribs) 12:26, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

  I had a look at it and can list several reasons for opposing, but I believe it is you who should convince the community why this template should be added. Materialscientist (talk) 12:29, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose. Totally non-encyclopaedic. FerdinandFrog (talk) 12:30, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose. I'm not clear on how this endeavor even pertains to Wikipedia. Today's motto and the others that I viewed have no apparent relevance to the project (though you're welcome to explain why "Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!", You won't bore him, honey. You won't even get a chance to talk.", "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." and Ah, thank you, Buzz off to you too." are suitable Wikipedia mottos).
  Please note that a new addition to the main page requires consensus within the Wikipedia editing community, not approval by administrators (who possess no special authority to make such decisions). —David Levy 12:34, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
• I'm against this change too, mostly since MOTD regularly and without remorse rips our copyright policies apart. — Joseph Fox 14:40, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose, aside from not being encyclopedic and not following copyright policies most of the examples given here aren't even mottoes. A quotation is not necessarily a motto. --Khajidha (talk) 20:36, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose Adding something like that really looks immature. I really think we should try to look professional on the Main Page.~ Matthewrbowker ^{Talk to me} 01:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
  
• Oppose - Not even close to being accurate. Coffee becomes piss, not software. Total mis-understanding of human anatomy. Kiltpin (talk) 11:33, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose - I helped revive the MOTD project years ago, but I completely agree that it's utterly unsuitable for the Main Page. Completely unencyclopaedic, riddle with narrow-audience injokes that only work for subsections of the active editing community, and just not at all representative of Wikipedia. I still like the project (despite a certain lack of originality after 6 years) and am happy to have it on my userpage - but that's all it was intended for, people's userpages for a bit of fun. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 14:54, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Quote of the day?

What about to add a section in the main page with a "guote of the day" picked from wikiquote just like the italian wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilthanas91 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't see why including one particular sister project's material on our main page (thereby essentially presenting non-Wikipedia content as though it's part of Wikipedia) is desirable.

What might make sense, as I've commented in the past, is a section containing rotating content from our sister projects in general, serving as a promotional tool that benefits all of them.

In fact, it appears that this is what the Italian Wikipedia is doing. The section in which a Wikiquote quotation appears is titled "Dagli altri progetti" ("From other projects") and also contains material from Commons, Wikinews and Wikisource. —David Levy 17:11, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Isn't the picture of the day always from commons? (though I suppose the featured picture process takes place here, making that a moot point). We also have a fairly prominent link to wikinews in the ITN section. Hot Stop^UTC 00:50, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

As you note, the featured picture process is local (and based upon criteria specific to the English Wikipedia, including a requirement that images appear in English Wikipedia articles). The files are hosted at Commons to enable their availability to all Wikimedia Foundation wikis. Commons has a separate POTD process.

Our main page includes links to nine sister projects, which is very different from displaying their content.

The ITN section contains an additional link to Wikinews because readers commonly mistake ITN for a news ticker. In previous discussions, some have questioned whether the link actually increases confusion by appearing to label the section "Wikinews" (evidenced by some users' references to ITN by that name) or otherwise blurring the distinction between the two projects. —David Levy 11:03, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

If quotes are sourced from a copyrighted work, we have the burden of establishing fair use. Since we cannot have fair use material on the main page, I don't see this happening. — Edokter (talk) — 11:41, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

We could, however, include free quotations in a section containing rotating content from various sister projects. —David Levy 12:06, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Burns Night

Why isn't Burns Night in Scotland mention for today's date 25th January 2012. For us Scots, this is a day bigger than St Andrews' Day. I'm sorry if I've placed this complaint in the wrong section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.193.146 (talk) 21:49, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

The Burns supper article is ineligible because of maintenance issues (see Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries#Criteria for listing items on this set of pages #8) and thus was omitted. Later, someone suggested that we just link to Robert Burns directly, which I did, at about 22:35 UTC. —howcheng {chat} 00:19, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

News

Any reason why the lead news item (EU embargo on Iran) is not updated in the article it links to? 208.106.47.200 (talk) 23:54, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

I was the one who initially updated the article. Since then, several other Wikipedians have contributed to it. Would you elaborate on what may be missing?--WaltCip (talk) 23:58, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Related discussion

Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Publicize featured content feeds?. Max Semenik (talk) 09:39, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Horse racing in "Did you know?"

Is it just me or is there really a horse racing-related information in "Did you know" just about every day? I don't know, but this being the main page it seems to much of a niche subject to cover it all the time... 84.73.177.231 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC).

There are not enough horses "to cover it all the time..." DYK content depends on contribution from various Wikipedians. Why don't you write up articles on topics you like? Related articles sometimes come in waves. We have more horses these days. We used to have lots of DYK articles on old churches in England, old houses in upstate New York, and local politicians in the US, .... --142.1.32.35 (talk) 21:12, 28 January 2012 (UTC)