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August 10

Requesting resubmission of Draft: SideChef

Hello, the draft page for the topic SideChef was recently deleted due to unambiguous advertising. I have since contacted the admin who deleted the draft in hopes of providing a new draft which neutral tones and fixing our previous mistakes. However, they have not yet responded and I'd like to know if I have permission to resubmit a draft for consideration now. If not, is there any way this page can still be created?

Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Am.ayz (talk • contribs)

Hi Am.ayz. At any time, you can create a new draft, be it in draft space itself, or as a user subpage (for example, at User:Am.ayz/SideChef). Since the page has already been WP:CSDed once, it is recommended the new content is very different from what it was before, otherwise it will end up being CSDed again, and persisting might result in sanctioning. Isabelle ^🔔 02:23, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

What do you mean by "our previous mistakes"? Is more than one person using this account? --Orange Mike | Talk 12:47, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Japanese flag

 Courtesy link: Flag of Japan

Hi, the Japanese Flag is quoted as a 'Rising Sun'. It is actually a 'Risen Sun'. quite a difference. The Australian military Badge represents the 'Rising Sun' by comparison. Thankyou.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.88.118.145 (talk • contribs) 02:46, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

You may wish to bring up this matter on Talk:Flag of Japan. -- Hoary (talk) 04:32, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Surely a risen sun is still a rising sun. I have never heard anybody refer to "a risen sun" in English.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:37, 10 August 2021 (UTC).

Am.ayz, the Sun from noon until sunset is still risen, but it's no longer rising. If in Japanese, it is referred to as a "risen" Sun, distinct from a "rising" Sun, then in general, an English language reference should, for accuracy, make the same distinction. Let me give you an example from my own, Polish heritage. The Polish flag is white on the top half and red on the bottom half. In English, when we speak generally of those two colors together, 99.99...% of the time, we'd say red and white. But the Polish expression for the two colors of the flag is "biały i czerwony," which translates to white and red. Polish people, including people of Polish heritage (i.e., not necessarily native speakers), when speaking English will commonly refer to the colors of the Polish flag as "white and red." Uporządnicki (talk) 14:49, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

This is probably a case of WP:COMMONNAME. Mjroots (talk) 16:22, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Based on a cursory reading of the linked article and Names of Japan, the Japanese name does not make such any such distinction. 日本 (translated fancifully as "Land of the Rising Sun" by westerners) can also be translated more literally as "origin of the sun" or "where the sun rises". The name of the flag itself (日章旗) can be translated simply as "sun flag".

The Rising Sun badge worn by the Australian Army is a more literal depiction of the sun cresting over the horizon, but the name seems perfectly appropriate for describing the design of the Japanese flag as well. RoxySaunders (talk · contribs) 02:47, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Page on American actor, RANDY QUAID

Reading about Randy Quaid ([[1]]), I noticed one of his movies was missing from the Filmography section: "Guyana Tragedy: The Story of Jim Jones" (1980 TV movie). Randy played a major role in that movie as Clayton Ritchie ([[2]]). On your page cited here on Ritchie, you do show Randy's role in portraying the character in the Jim Jones Story. For more verification, see the IMDb page in which Randy is listed among the "Top Cast." https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080832/#:~:text=Based%20upon%20the%20real%20life%20story%20of%20Reverend,became%20focused%20on%20his%20belief%20in%20nuclear%20holocaust.

Thank you for your attention to detail. 2600:1700:F5E0:4420:E1CE:2821:7903:5611 (talk) 09:23, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Please discuss any issues with the Randy Quaid article on its talk page, Talk:Randy Quaid. 331dot (talk) 09:53, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

It's not missing. Randy Quaid#Filmography includes the below. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:56, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Year	Title	Role	Notes
1980	Guyana Tragedy	Clayton Ritchie	Television film

Wikipedia page not displaying on the first page of SERP when we type shaan groverr

Hi

Wikipedia page not displaying on the first page of SERP when we type shaan groverr and how can i remove user word from the top Shaangroverr (talk) 10:23, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

To answer your question: you're editing your user page, which is outside of the main article namespace. By default, you won't see user pages (or anything that isn't an article, like templates or draft) in search results. You can't remove the User: part, unless your article gets moved into the main article namespace.

You should have a look at this page about Your first article, which explains almost everything about the article creation process.

(Judging by your username, you're probably writing about yourself, a practice that is strongly discouraged) Zudo ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:42, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

MS Mega Regina article in need of updating

The article MS Mega Regina is in need of updating. Except for one picture of the ship on the Mediterranean Sea and updated information about the ship's name and owner, pretty much everything else is still about the ship's previous life as MS Mariella. What can be done about this? Is there a place to invite editors to work on the article? JIP | Talk 10:28, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

JIP, you've been around for ages; you should know. Yes there is: Talk:MS Mega Regina. And if nobody seems to notice, or care, then mention that attempt of yours at a discussion on the talk page of any WikiProject that's advertised on that talk page. (Or of course you could update the article yourself....) Hoary (talk) 11:39, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

. . . unless, of course, I misunderstood something. (Thinking that this is likely, I'm going to bed.) -- Hoary (talk) 12:24, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

@JIP: WT:SHIPS is a good place to reach editors interested in ship related articles. Mjroots (talk) 16:20, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Edit notices don't work on subpages? (Resolved)

Hello,

I tried to make an edit notice for a tasks subpage of my user page. However, it doesn't display when I edit the tasks subpage. The edit notice page itself has an edit notice warning me that the page title format is not correct. Is there any way I can make an edit notice for the subpage, or is it impossible? Any help is appreciated. Thanks, DesertPipeline (talk) 12:10, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

I should've read the WP:EDITNOTICE page more carefully. It says I need to request it as a subpage of Template:Editnotices. DesertPipeline (talk) 12:35, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Citation for interview

We want to update the Wikipedia entry for ‘Glitter’ based on an interview with Henry Ruschmann Jr., who is son of the inventor of glitter Henry Ruschmann Sr. as cited in Wikipedia. Ruschmann Jr. succeeded his father as president of Meadowbrook Inventions Inc. and ran the company for decades – and is perhaps the leading authority today on glitter. Can you advise on how to cite the interview in the References section?

RSherw (talk) 12:35, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

You don't need to ask here as well as at the WP:Teahouse. It wastes the time of volunteers answering a question which has already been answered. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:49, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

1. Is this a published interview? If it's not published, then it's not usable under any circumstances.

2. Interviews in general are likely to be treated as self-published sources, since an interview is simply re-stating the assertions and claims of the person interviewed. Thus, information only supported by interviews is deprecated for our purposes. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Depreciated, but not banned. RSherw can use {{cite news}} or {{cite web}} or {{cite AV media}} as appropriate to cite the source where the interview was published. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:08, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

@RSherw: Who is "we"? An account must not be shared: only one individual should have the password and use the account. see WP:USERNAME. -Arch dude (talk) 18:43, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Is user's sandbox accessible to other users?

Fleinsaris (talk) 13:24, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

All Wikipedia pages are viewable and editable by all Wikipedia users. The only exception is if some page has been protected so it is only editable by administrators. So, to answer to your question, yes it is. JIP | Talk 14:02, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Sidebar formatting problem (done)

In current Firefox, the text "See the project's archives for work editors have accomplished." in Wikipedia:Cleanup/Information_sidebar (below the filing icon) appears "twice boldfaced". I tried to fix it but failed. Can anybody help out here?--Hildeoc (talk) 14:58, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Fixed by [3]. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:41, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thanks a lot. However, now the spacing between the icon and the title seems to have increased …--Hildeoc (talk) 12:44, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I have removed a line break.[4] PrimeHunter (talk) 19:47, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Well done. Thank you very much once again. Best wishes--Hildeoc (talk) 14:33, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Access to the British Daily National Newspaper The Times

Does someone here subscribe to the British daily national newspaper The Times official website? I want to look at an article behind its paywall at https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/actors-make-their-voices-heard-for-audiobooks-75vgqvj0d. While I can access it via at least three different means, say Factiva, university library and national library of Scotland, there is some out there who demand to see a pdf printed from its official website. Essentially, we want to verify if the following sentences, "In the past, Stephen Hogan read novels such as Sebastian Barry's The Secret Scripture, John Boyne's The Heart's Invisible Furies, and Colm Toibin's The Heather Blazing. Until the pandemic, however, the Dublin-born actor was unfamiliar with home recording. "It was born out of a needs-must scenario," he explains, from his apartment in London. "I had always worked in studios, so this was a learning curve."" exist on there. Many thanks. Supermann (talk) 17:59, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Supermann. Try asking at the Resource exchange. It is certainly the case that you should not cite a source unless you've read the relevant bit yourself: SAYWHEREYOUREADIT. --ColinFine (talk) 18:30, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I did read it. Quoting your guideline, "So long as you are confident that you read a true and accurate copy, it does not matter whether you read the material using an online service like Google Books; using preview options at a bookseller's website like Amazon; through your library; via online paid databases of scanned publications, such as JSTOR; using reading machines; on an e-reader (except to the extent that this affects page numbering); or any other method." Will try your recommendation next. Supermann (talk) 18:34, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

@Supermann:. The Times website allows casual users from the UK (and perhaps elsewhere) to create a free account which gives access to two articles a week. I have such an account and can confirm the wording is exactly as you indicated above (actually The Sunday Times of 10 January 2021). Wikipedia citations can be behind paywalls because they can still be verified in a number of ways. Clearly, The Times is a frequently-used source on the list at WP:RSPS. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:23, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. I saw the reviewer has removed the "verification failed" maintenance tag. Maybe I'll try my UK VPN IP every now and then. Appreciate the trick. Supermann (talk) 14:58, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

versao da pagina em ingles e frances - duvida

preciso de uma orientação tenho uma página na wikipedia em portugues - Betty Milan - https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Milan gostaria de fazer uma versão em frances e ingles. devo fazer uma pagina nova ou tem outras opções? Elizabeth Milan Mangin (talk) 18:44, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia. Perhaps you are looking for the Portuguese Wikipedia? --David Biddulph (talk) 18:48, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

If you want to translate an article from another language into English, please read WP:Translate. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Robert Wise article correction

Your article on film director Robert Wise contains an inaccuracy. The character played by Valentina Cortese in 'The House on Telegraph Hill' (1951) is a concentration camp survivor (Belsen), but she is not Jewish. She happens to be Polish. Had the character been a Polish Jew, she would have been killed in Belsen.

Dr M Relich

 Courtesy link: Robert Wise (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.)

Hi there! The best place to bring this up is the article's talk page: Talk:Robert Wise. If you have a reliable source to support this, please provide that as well. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 19:10, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Category help

Should Category:Iron bridges contain Category:Wrought iron bridges? Tyrone Madera (talk) 21:57, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

@Tyrone Madera, that seems like a definite yes for me. —valereee (talk) 22:03, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

August 11

‘3D Touch’ on iPhone improvement suggestion

[iPhone]

When 3D Touch is used on a hyperlinked word in a Wikipedia page, the preview for the page should show a representative picture and other small facts about the linked word.

The place to make requests for technical improvements is WP:VP. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:39, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Protected page

How do I submit a request to turn a page into a protected one, due to high potential for racist abuse in it?

WP:Requests for page protection - however, they are not Precrime and will not pre-emptively protect a page based on someone asserting there may potentially be problems. See WP:Protection policy. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 02:51, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Gledhow Hall

Please check re number 2. - it is a PDF and I could not get the publisher. Can you fix please?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.3.153.231 (talk • contribs) 11 August 2021 03:46 (UTC)

 Done Eagleash (talk) 04:21, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Can the black and white pic on this page please be placed on the left-hand side - thanks - sorry again, I cannot do this. 49.3.153.231 (talk) 04:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

That would place an image at the top left of a section which is discouraged by WP:IMGLOC. It would also result in the text being 'sandwiched' between two images, so other re-alignment would also be necessary. One or other, of the images could be left-aligned further down the section if desired. AS you've been asked, possibly 100s of times, before, please do not start multiple sections with the same heading. Eagleash (talk) 04:46, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

(sorry about forgetting the "multiple section rule") I have done it with another black and white pic/file - so all good Thanks 49.3.153.231 (talk) 05:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Name change

How can I change article name KhanQadriRazvi (talk) 04:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@KhanQadriRazvi: On Wikipedia, the act of changing an article name is called a "move". See Wikipedia:Requested moves for lots of information. GoingBatty (talk) 15:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

New infobox

How Can I create a new infobox for muslim schlor pls help KhanQadriRazvi (talk) 04:12, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@KhanQadriRazvi: You could try using {{Infobox religious biography}} or {{Infobox academic}}. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty Thanks, I tried but I not Get what I want, so want to create new infobox Thanks KhanQadriRazvi (talk) 15:59, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Need an admin for simple task

The Ubud Writers and Readers Festival needs a redirect from (or possibly even a move to?) Ubud Writers & Readers Festival (its current styling), but that page has been blocked from creation owing to persistent vandalism in the past, apparently. The admin who did it does not appear to have edited anything since 2016, so I'm posting this here in the hope that a passing admin may be able to undo this block so that I can create the redirect page. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 06:15, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I had a look at the target page, and it seems that it was protected in January 2015, over six years ago. The admin who protected it hasn't been active on Wikipedia since December 2016, for over four years. So it looks like the issue is long outdated. Therefore I have unprotected the target page and moved the article. JIP | Talk 08:26, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks very much for attending to that, JIP. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 11:03, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

4 months draft

Please help. I created my first content here 4 months ago and it is still in Draft and pending for review till now. Please enlighten me how to progress with my article and get it published. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:LVIT— Preceding unsigned comment added by Heimoore77 (talk • contribs) 07:00, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Heimoore77, afaict, you never submitted the draft for review. You can use the WP:SUBMIT link to to so. The lack of inline citations (see WP:TUTORIAL) is a problem, and you should take a look at WP:LEAD. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:50, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

We just completed a drive that cleared out all the existing drafts. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:14, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Submitted drafts, right? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:37, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

This has already been answered at the Teahouse. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:16, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

How to create a good article?

How do i make a good article?— Preceding unsigned comment added by I.DGamingyoutube (talk • contribs) 10:55, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi I.DGamingyoutube. If you want to make test edits you can use your sandbox, and if you want to create a good article, I recommend you read some guides, such as "Your first article", which goes over our manual of style and the importance of reliable sources. If you have any other questions, I recommend you visit the Teahouse. Isabelle ^🔔 11:35, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Landform infobox

Hi Folks!! Anybody know an ideal infobox for a pensisula that can take a Gaelic name. There is a couple of dozen of these peninsula's in Scoland and its not available. Some of the other land features, seem to take no problem, e.g. on Oban. Its has Scots which I didn't know and Gealic. I'm using it on the Rhu Peninsula article. It is in there, but is not showing. Thanks scope_creep^Talk 11:53, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I've been thinking for a long time that infoboxen need to standardize on how they handle non-English names ... For {{infobox landform}} at Rhu Peninsula:

|other_name={{lang-gd|Rudha Arasaig}}

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:35, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Geez, I have used that all the time. Thanks scope_creep^Talk 13:41, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

The information i add to my own band page gets reverted for no reason.

Hey, this is to let you know that i have been trying to create my own band page (When Chai Met Toast) and whenever I try to add/edit information, it gets reverted by someone and I have been trying to so this for many days and not able to.

Please do help.

Courtesy link: When Chai Met Toast. Princess Persnickety (talk) 13:08, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello Saileshpai, and welcome to Wikipedia. Important distinction: You don't have a bandpage on WP, WP has an article about When Chai Met Toast, see WP:OWN. If you're a member, see WP:COI and WP:EDITREQUEST, you are welcome to make suggestions and give sources that support them at Talk:When Chai Met Toast. WP:ISAWIT is not good enough. Your edit [5] was reverted because that's the wrong place for an external link. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:13, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Pinging DiplomatTesterMan, if you're interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:26, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Correcting ping DiplomatTesterMan Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:28, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Is there anyway to sort tables by different columns on mobile?

Hi everyone,

I’m trying to look at the list of countries by incarceration rate, and the table comes up in alphabetical order. This makes it almost impossible to discern any useful information from the table. Is there a way to sort it by the other columns on mobile, because I can’t seem to figure it out. 2001:8F8:1B2F:C6AA:8979:5E47:A32B:79F9 (talk) 15:22, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: List of countries by incarceration rate GoingBatty (talk) 15:47, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I just went to that site on my mobile. I do see that the sort options aren't available on mobile but if you scroll to the bottom of the page, you will see the word "desktop" which will convert to the desktop view. You can then sort by any column.--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:47, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm a new user and need to upload an image - how to become a confirmed user?

I just need to upload a new logo for my organization. It seems I need to make 10 edits in order to become a confirmed user and able to upload an image? I don't have any edits to make, however. Do I need to look around for things to change on other pages? Not bringing a lot of content expertise here, just trying to upload an image. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SU Webmaster (talk • contribs) 15:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@SU Webmaster: Since you apparently have a conflict of interest, I suggest you follow the recommendation on your talk page to "propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template)", including suggesting that someone else uploads an image from a web page to Wikipedia. GoingBatty (talk) 15:46, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@SU Webmaster: Greetings, and welcome. Accounts become autoconfirmed after four days and ten edits, at which point uploading images becomes possible. That said, there are other issues at play here which you should take note of.

• Firstly, your username does not appear to be in compliance with with our username policy, as it appears to be an account representing a role rather than you as an individual. Note that something like "Bob at SU" would be fine. You can request a username change here, or, since your edit here is your only edit to date, it would be just as well to cease using that account and start a new one.
• Secondly, and most importantly, regardless of your username, if you are editing Wikipedia as part of your job duties, you must disclose your affiliation as a paid editor as per the Terms of Use to which you agreed when you created your account. See also our guidelines on conflict of interest and note that edits which appear to be promotional will not be looked upon favorably.

If you look around enough, you shouldn't have a great deal of trouble finding articles in need of minor improvements. But please read the links to policies and procedures which I have provided above before proceeding further. Thank you for your time, and feel free to ask more questions if you have them. --Finngall ^talk 16:11, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks all! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SU Webmaster (talk • contribs) 17:18, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Putting an image in a table in a certain way

Hello, I have been working a lot on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_districts_of_the_House_of_Representatives_of_Japan

I am trying to turn the list format into table format, as in the japanese version of the article: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A1%86%E8%AD%B0%E9%99%A2%E5%B0%8F%E9%81%B8%E6%8C%99%E5%8C%BA%E5%88%B6%E9%81%B8%E6%8C%99%E5%8C%BA%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7#%E7%BE%A4%E9%A6%AC%E7%9C%8C

As you can see the japanese version of the article has a map of the prefecture's districts INSIDE of the table for that prefecture. I want to know how to do this (I can't look at the source for the japanese article because it's all in japanese). Thanks. Bwmdjeff (talk) 16:15, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@Bwmdjeff: I moved one image into the table in this edit so you can see how it's done. I used rowspan per Help:Table. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:32, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

two edits at the same time - different topics

Hello, I just submitted some edits for a page and am awaiting approval. Now, I want to create a new post (totally different topic) and need a blank page to start over to do that. How do I get another blank "Sandbox" or is there another way I should do this? Marcia M.

Do you mean you submitted your sandbox article for WP:AfC? You should really copy it to Draft:Your article's title and submit that instead. Then you could reuse your sandbox. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:34, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@Marcia K. Morgan: While you could move your User:Marcia K. Morgan/sandbox to Draft:Anatomical doll, it is unlikely to be approved because there's already an article for Anatomically correct doll. Since you also seem to have a conflict of interest, you could declare your COI on your user page using {{UserboxCOI}} and suggest improvements to the existing article by posting them to Talk:Anatomically correct doll with the {{request edit}} template. You could also create more sandboxes (or other user subpages) such as User:Marcia K. Morgan/sandbox2 or User:Marcia K. Morgan/any text. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:06, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

I NEED YOUR HELP

CAN YOU PLEASEEEEE make me a favor? They keep block me for NO REASON - I SWEAR IT! On wikipedia.it ..really! https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/MaraJK

this is my new account... and they blocked it and deleted all the things i have done! all!--- Now the pages are a mess and with wrong info! Can you please restore the things i have done.. as you can see they deleted all: THE WORD 'ANULLATO' AT THE END MEANS THAT THEY DELTED WHAT I HAVE DONE---

why they do like that?? always!! WHAT I HAVE DONE OF WRONF ON THE PAGES? CHECK!---

THEY ARE SOOOO BAD....---

please! the pages are a mess now... in 24 hours i will have another ip... but.. i am sick of this.. they can't keep like that WHY THEY THINK TO BE RIGHT... I did create a thing like 14 accounts.. all blocked for no reasons! no reasons! and when i complain like this... they make a mess and delete all... and block me... PD HELP!----

the page LESLEY COLLIER - was deleted? if yes recreate it, THANK YOU...---

I DO NOT THINK I KILLED SOME1....

UPDATE: they will never PAY FOR WHAT THEY KEEP DO?....— Preceding unsigned comment added by MaraJK (talk • contribs) 18:24, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

The preceding was added in a misformatted fashion by MaraJK (talk). I removed the strange formatting. -Arch dude (talk) 18:49, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Each Wikipedia language is a separate project with separate rules. We at the English Wikipedia help desk cannot help you with problems at the Italian wikipedia. -Arch dude (talk) 18:43, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

In case you're still on this IP @5.170.68.242: as Arch dude says, we can't help you it-wiki. However, if they blocked you on one account, that applies to you as a person, so they are always going to block you on any other account you make, and that would itself make it far harder for you to get an unblock or make an appeal for the original action (that is, even if that block was bad, it wouldn't authorise you to keep making accounts to evade it). Nosebagbear (talk) 18:46, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

"bloccato" - even I can figure out what that means. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:21, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Delete Anwar Agewan Wikipedia

I am unable to delete anwar agewan wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_Agewan

I would be thankful i can get help on how to delete it as few of the information is incorrect or lie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garimap (talk • contribs)

Well, you could open an WP:AFD, but I doubt the article will be deleted in its current state, and the fact that you're a new editor starting an AfD may concern other editors. If you believe information within the article is incorrect and it's unsourced, you can tag it for needing a source, or outright delete it, though the latter may be considered bad practice. If the information is sourced and you nevertheless believe it to be incorrect, your best bet is likely to raise your concerns at the article's Talk page to see whether you can get a consensus that the information should be deleted. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 20:15, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Related info posted at User talk:Nizil Shah#About Anwar agewan wikipedia. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:19, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Garimap (ec) Only administrators may delete articles. If you have reasons based in Wikipedia guidelines to propose its deletion, please follow the instructions at Articles for Deletion, though I don't think you will succeed. Note that if you believe the article to have incorrect information, you should discuss it on the article talk page. Please note that Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources say, and makes no claims as to truthfulness. You will need to show that the sources are not accurately summarized. If the sources are incorrect, but summarized accurately here, you will need to take that up with them. 331dot (talk) 20:20, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

This user's been coming onto -en-help regularly over the past few days to try and get the page deleted because they object to its content on more than just accuracy grounds. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 21:22, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Replied on my talkpage. -Nizil (talk) 05:45, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

The article can't be deleted on the ground of 'notability'. I don't think that the information is incorrect, since it comes from a very authentic Encyclopedia/Who's Who Dictionary, which have been prepared by very genuine scholars of Gujarati literature and published by very reputed literary institutions. If User:Garimap has any issue with the information, they should directly contact these institutions which have published the cited references. --Gazal world (talk) 10:39, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Categories such as "Category:Chinese mathematicians"

As a word, "Chinese" can be used to indicate residence (location), citizenship (law), genetic ancestry (biology), or ethnic group affiliation (behavior). For categories like "Category:Chinese mathematicians", which of these do we mean? Blurring the distinction between these categories could easily be classified as (inadvertent) racism: e.g., that U.S. citizens of Japanese genetic ancestry were rounded up in World War 2 is widely viewed as racism.

Obviously this applies to other countries as well. How do I start a discussion to address this issue? —Q uantling (talk | contribs) 21:13, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@Quantling: It's for nationality. That's why Category:Chinese mathematicians is in Category:Mathematicians by nationality. Wikipedia:Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality#General says: "Do not create categories that are a cross-section of a topic with an ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation, unless these characteristics are relevant to the topic." Ethnicity is not considered relevant for mathematicians so there is no category for mathematicians in Category:People of Chinese descent by occupation. I'm a bit surprised we have Category:American academics of Chinese descent. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:59, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thank you for the quick response. Just to be sure that I get it -- by "nationality" you mean "citizenship" so a "Chinese mathematician" is a citizen of China? (Well, I suppose if a person's citizenship changes over their lifetime then it could be more confusing, but let's stick to the simple case of someone whose citizenship remains constant.) —Quantling (talk | contribs) 00:30, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Quantling: Bascially yes, but citizenship has a specific legal meaning and is often just an assumption. You don't have to know the legal status of somebody to classify them as a Chinese mathematician. If they work in China, have a Chinese sounding name, and you have no reason to think they are not Chinese citizens, then just place them in Category:Chinese mathematicians. But don't claim on the category page that it is for mathematicians with Chinese citizenship. That may deter editors from adding people who belong there. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thank you. I wasn't trying to measure how much certainty we need; I was just trying to figure out what we are measuring. If (it is likely enough that) the person is a Chinese citizen and (likely enough that the person) is a mathematician then that's what we mean by "Chinese mathematician". So long as that is understood, and it is not also a blur with genetic ancestry, ethnic group affiliation, or location of residence then I am good. —Quantling (talk | contribs) 00:57, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

August 12

How to approach an editor with a certain editing style?

Vague title I know... but I do have a question regarding this - and it may sound silly, but I've been an editor on Wikipedia for a number of years now and never have run into this problem.

There's an editor that has recently been ramming through articles (will not call this editor out - this isn't a content dispute complaint), taking a "slash and burn" style of editing (slashing out large chunks of articles), largely without seeking consensus first... much with a "my way or the highway" approach. One of the reasons this editor gives is that there are no citations. Another reason is/may be that whatever subject is being had is "not notable". Another is that photos may be of too poor quality - thus deleted; others photos may be too good. This editor often refers to Wikipedia informational pages as justification for his/her edits - although what is likely obvious, these pages are only informational pages and not guidelines. There are other instances where this editor will cite guidelines... but instead of direct interpretations of the guidelines, this editor will make subjective interpretations for justifications of his/her edits.

There is one other editor that has been editing on Wikipedia a bit longer than I have... I think that he may have a slightly better handle on this editor than I do, although it ain't perfect as this editor is everywhere. In any case, my question is: How does one approach an editor with this type editing style??? The editor in question has free rein as he/she is autoconfirmed and in the process, has turned off new editors to editing -- which is a big concern for both myself and the other editor. Turning off new editors is not very constructive and I can't think of a way to keep this from happening to new editors. Again, how can one approach this? My first time having to deal with someone - an editor, like this (first time for everything, I guess ~o~; ). Sorry if this is a silly question :/ .

...and please be nice... there are so many places to ask questions -- I'm so confused where to ask this xD ..... Hanyou23 (talk) 03:43, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Hanyou23 the generic advice is at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and covers both content and behaviour disputes. If this relates to the latest discussion on your talk page, the advice was to discuss the issues on the article talk page. TSventon (talk) 11:11, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

TSventon Nah, I realize that. The original discussion happened on the unnamed editor's talk page before the messages on my talk page appeared. A discussion on an article's talk page - a GA article that I and the other experienced editor are heavily involved with, was created thereafter and things got interesting from there. The editor in question is having trouble with consensus, it seems, by seeking input from one other talk page, but consensus is holding for now. The article is on that one editor's radar though, so that's why was asking for the best approach. Wikipedia:Dispute resolution is the only way? Hanyou23 (talk) 18:34, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

The description you posted here doesn't suggest to me that the other editor is doing anything wrong (against policy), and nor does the discussion on your talk page. Hence you probably can't do anything to change their editing style, only about content disputes, where Wikipedia:Dispute resolution gives good advice. TSventon (talk) 23:24, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Got 'ya. Thank you :) ! Hanyou23 (talk) 02:38, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Hanyou23 I would also recommend gradually (skim)reading some of the main policies of Wikipedia, starting by clicking on the links at Help:Introduction to policies and guidelines. If people think there is a problem with your behaviour, they will probably tell you, while if you think there is a problem with some one else's behaviour, you need to do some research. If you have a specific content dispute, then look for a specific policy, e.g. Wikipedia:Categorization for the guideline on using categories. TSventon (talk) 10:08, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Australian, British, Irish, and Scottish English

Hi. I'm working on several articles which use non-American varieties of the English; e.g. Australian, British, Irish, and Scottish English. I have some question about the grammar and wording. Is there a specific project for Australian/British/Irish/Scottish English? Where can I ask my questions or request for the help? Thank you. Wario-Man ^talk 06:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Wario-Man, you could ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. However they only work on articles that do not contain original research or lack citations. TSventon (talk) 08:13, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@Wario-Man: If you haven't already, have a look at WP:ENGVAR, which gives information on which English variant might be best for an article, and the differences which might need to be considered between variants. Bazza (talk) 09:03, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Article Creation

Hello! How do I create a new article? It is only allowing me to create a draft.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmiewaitesassistant (talk • contribs)

Jimmiewaitesassistant, see WP:AUTOCONFIRM. If you try to add articles that doesn't meet the demands of WP:GNG, they will be deleted. More guidance at Help:Your first article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:06, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Answered at the Teahouse. Please don't post the same question in different places, Jimmiewaitesassistant, it just wastes volunteers' time. --ColinFine (talk) 16:42, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

name change

I want to change my user name from Leahorr to Leah Orr

See WP:NAMECHANGE (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:59, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Leahorr, since this is your only edit so far, the simple way to do that is to stop using this account (ever) and register a new one. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:38, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Leahorr, if that is your real name, you might want to reconsider using it. Using your real name on wiki can sometimes attract off-wiki harassment, especially for women. —valereee (talk) 16:49, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång I don't think she can do that - the new name would be in violation of the WP:SIMILARNAME policy (the system of course won't know she's actually the same person). She'd have to request an account to "usurp" (that's not quite what's happening, but it's the closest I can think of) the name. Matt Deres (talk) 18:27, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@Matt Deres Ah, so it can be technically impossible, unless usurping. Was not aware of that, thanks. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:31, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I'll echo valleree's comment. It is sad to make this recommendation, and I note the irony that I do use my real name (would do it differently if I were to start today), but the use of a pseudnym would be a good idea. As a small benefit, that would not require usurping, you could just create a new account and abandon the existing one. S Philbrick(Talk) 14:59, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Subject deemed "Not notable"

Good afternoon,

The page submitted for Darren Dean, has returned as being "not notable", even after edits/updates. Darren Dean has a proven list of credits beyond IMDB. Could you please advise on why this page is not published?

Best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by MVworks! (talk • contribs)

Draft:Darren Dean - I'm curious as to why IMDb is still being used as a reference within the article when an editor commented five months ago that links to it (and YouTube) would need to be replaced. Additionally, the article contains unsourced biographical information, which I don't believe is acceptable for an article about a living person. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 20:57, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, MVworks. Please read about Wikipedia's special meaning for notability. In most cases it is not a matter of what the person has done, said, or created, but of what other people have published about the person, because Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. If little independent material has been published about the person, then there is essentially nothing which can go in the article. --ColinFine (talk) 20:58, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@MVworks: Another problem that leaps out to me is that you filled the article with background info about the various films. I think you are under the impression that making them seem more important will show that Dean is also important. However, as producer, his claim to fame is having produced them. Also, you want to save the reader's attention for info about him, not the films, unless his specific contributions are being discussed. Otherwise, if the films have articles, linking to them with a single sentence descriptor is sufficient. That's what Wiki-links are for. Blue links denote notability to other experienced editors who are reviewing your draft. Lastly, there's no way around learning how to build proper references. Just putting names at the end of paragraphs won't work. See Help:Referencing for beginners. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:43, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@Doniago: Please study WP:N and WP:NARTIST. To establish notability by our definition, you will need multiple reliable sources that support notability. This is a higher standard than just being reliable, and it's easy to mess up. See WP:CSMN. -Arch dude (talk) 01:19, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'm not the one who posted the question. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 01:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

"Suggested edit" tag

Hello! I am seeing edits tagged as #suggestededit-add 1.0, that are mostly adding short descriptions to articles. I tried to go to Recent Changes and use this tag to filter the results, but it is not listed in the "tagged edits" section of the filter. How would I go about filtering the edits using this tag? The edits I have seen lately are not quite correct, so I'd like to keep an eye on them. Thanks! –FlyingAce^✈hello 23:58, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@FlyingAce: Please post an example edit. Always include an example when you report or ask about an issue. I could only find edits where #suggestededit-add 1.0 is the edit summary, e.g. [6]. Edit summaries and tags are different features. Edit summaries are not searchable. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:12, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: D'oh! You're right, it's an edit summary rather than a tag. This is an example; the short description added has nothing to do with the article. –FlyingAce^✈hello 00:29, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@FlyingAce: I sometimes notice those edits, and it's a coin toss if they are good or bad. I've never seen it myself to tell how it works, but it seems to be this function from the Android App: Wikipedia:Suggestededit-add 1.0. Isabelle ^🔔 02:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Correcting ping to FlyingAce. Apologies. Isabelle ^🔔 02:11, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

New to Wiki

HI,

Can anyone create wiki profiles on other people? how to link these to other institutions on wiki. Ie an Olympian/professional sports person who has their own page, how do i or could i link their page to the schools alumni page or other institution? Does it automatically link or do i have to enter information manually into the sports persons page and then the schools page?

Thank you

Annette

Hi Annette. I'm not sure if I understood you correctly, but I'll try to answer your questions. Can anyone create wiki profiles on other people? If you mean articles on other people, then yes, anyone can create and add information about people on Wikipedia, as long as it follows the notability criteria and doesn't break our guidelines on biographies of living people. Please see a guide on how to create your first article. how to link these to other institutions on wiki. If you mean link to other wiki pages, you should read "How do I make links?" from our FAQ. These are called "wikilinks" and must be added manually by editors. Isabelle ^🔔 02:45, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Annette, and welcome to Wikipedia. The answer to your question is that (almost) anybody may edit (almost) any Wikipedia article; but that does not mean that it is necessarily easy to edit correctly, and people who plunge in and try to create new articles before they have spent time learning how Wikipedia works often have a frustrating and disappointing time. Please have a look at Help:introduction. One other point: Wikipedia does not contain "profiles" - not one. It contains encyclopaedia articles, which may be written by anybody (but preferably not by their subject or somebody closely associated with the subject) based almost completely on reliable published sources unconnected with the subject. --ColinFine (talk) 09:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Author

I Cannot Bury the Shadow In My Room is not on Wikipedia. The author has about 5k followers on Facebook.

Can this be added?— Preceding unsigned comment added by CarmenSmith1 (talk • contribs) 02:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi CarmenSmith1. It appears that I Cannot Bury the Shadow In My Room is a novel, which means that it needs to satisfy the notability criteria for novels and books. From a quick search, that does not appear to be the case, but you are always welcome to create a draft if you believe it meets the notablity criteria. I'd also recommend you read a guide on how to create your first article. Isabelle ^🔔 02:37, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

August 13

User block report

User Superinformative is making editing war and refuse to discuss in the article Tilahun Gessesse's talk page by simply changing the historical birthplace of Ethiopia during the Italian rule, which is then called "Italian East Africa" (1936–1941), he was born in 1940. I had tried to request protection but the bot delete my submission, and instead I'm here to address such disruption by user. Some of edits appear here:

• [7]
• [8].The Supermind (talk) 06:33, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Superinformative and The Supermind have been engaged in an edit war at Tilahun Gessesse, though neither has come close to violating WP:3RR, so there would be no justification for a block. The Supermind has started a discussion on the talk page (thank you, The Supermind) to which Superinformative has not yet responded. Superinformative has twice accused The Supermind of vandalism, with no justification: I assume they haven't read WP:VD.   Maproom (talk) 08:33, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

First wikipedia article

Hello Wiki,

We would like to post our first article on wikipedia. It would be great if you can guide us through the same.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Regards, ChaiChun family.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaichun wiki (talk • contribs)

I see this account has been blocked as advertising-only account. Also, we don't have family accounts- each individual should have their own account (although now that you're blocked, you'd need to get this account unblocked first). Joseph2302 (talk) 07:17, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Problem with adding categories

Every time I try to add a category by using the linking button a : is added to the category making it like this Category:Foo.★Trekker (talk) 08:22, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

*Treker, just two minutes before writing the above, you added a category (without the colon) to an article, thereby doing what you seem to be saying you cannot do. Just what/where is the difficulty, exactly? -- Hoary (talk) 08:52, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Hoary: I had no manualy remove it when I noticed it was happening on Wikipedia as well, I had this problem on Commons yesterday.★Trekker (talk) 09:06, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@*Treker: It's an intentional change in phab:T38227 which was implemented in the MediaWiki version we got yesterday: mw:MediaWiki 1.37/wmf.18#WikiEditor. The button is called "Link" and has a link icon. If you enter File:Example.png then you also get a colon in front now to produce a link File:Example.png instead of adding the image. Below the edit box you may have a drop-down menu where the "Wiki markup" part has a [[Category:]] button. You can also use HotCat to add categories. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:38, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thank you!★Trekker (talk) 11:53, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Page

How do you make your own article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.254.7.144 (talk)

IP editor, if you mean how do you make your first article, see Help:Your first article. If you mean an article about yourself, please don't see Wikipedia:Autobiography. TSventon (talk) 10:37, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm going to assume there's an "and" missing between "don't" and "see"... —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:11, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi 90.254.7.144, I suggest you check out Help:My first article, and if you have further questions, you should ask at the Teahouse, which is a good place for new editors to ask questions. Furthermore, please sign your messages - you can do this by addding ~~~~ at the end of your message. Zudo ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

May you please help me categorize the following essay?

May you please categorize WP:SANTA properly? Thanks! Félix An (talk) 11:51, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Félix An: It's in the essay category, which is good for now. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Timtempleton Are there even more fine categories for different types of essays? Félix An (talk) 23:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Félix An: I just looked and found this: Category:Wikipedia essays. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:43, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Noticed 2 errors with reference to Singapore and the founding fathers of the PAP (People's Action Party), Singapore.

 Courtesy link: People's Action Party and Kenneth Michael Byrne

How do I offer to correct these minor errors?

Reference

1. Kenneth M Byrne. Minister PAP. Had no son, only 1 daughter.

2. Someone is claiming incorrectly to be one of the 9 founding fathers of PAP. There is evidence to prove otherwise.

Thank you L. M. Parry

Hi L. M. Parry. I've checked the two articles you mentioned and I couldn't find any obvious error related to what you pointed. The People's Action Party sources the nine founding members and I couldn't access the source in the Kenneth Michael Byrne article. If you believe there to be an error, be bold and fix it, giving appropriate sources. Isabelle ^🔔 14:44, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Another option is for you to start a discussion on the article's talk page (e.g. Talk:People's Action Party to post your suggestions and reliable sources. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:57, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Creating an account

Is that possible to some one who has not eney certification be a member of Wikipedia? Because I didn't get to school before — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.214.3.178 (talk)

I'm not sure what "eney certification" is, but it's not a limitation on creating an account. 331dot (talk) 14:35, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Anyone may have an account. In fact, anyone can edit. However, if you are unsure of your writing ability and spelling ability, you should probably not edit articles directly. Instead, you may make suggestions for improvements to an article on the article's talk page, and another editor can then handle the proper language for you. -Arch dude (talk) 15:04, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Correction

Hi I would like to inform u that information mentioned in about mazandaran and gilak people genetics haplogroup is wrong they have more r1b haplogroup in them not r1a following is the reference

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0041252o

The best thing to do is open a discussion on the article talk page and share the links--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:55, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

article "Ilaria Brocchini"

Dear all, the draft for the article "Ilaria Brocchini" should be published https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ilaria_Brocchini A Wikipedia page for this philosopher already exists in German https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilaria_Brocchini Thank all for your assistance --185.12.130.50 (talk) 15:25, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi 185.12.130.50. If you want the draft to be reviewed, please add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page, so it's added to the review queue. I'll also ping Mirabiliamira here, who has been editing the draft recently. Isabelle ^🔔 15:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Menobot?

I've just received an email entirely in Arabic script, except for the words 'Menobot' and 'Verbarson', and the Wikimedia Foundation address in the footer. It claims to come from wiki@wikimedia.org. It means nothing to me.

Should I worry? Should somebody else worry?

--Verbarson (talk) 15:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Verbarson: It looks like that bot welcomed you to the Moroccan Arabic Wikipedia [9] — some Wikipedia communities have welcoming bots even if you've never made any edits there. You can just ignore it, nothing to worry about! DanCherek (talk) 15:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Don't remember even visiting that! Oh, well, it's better than some phishing email. Thanks for the solution.--Verbarson (talk) 15:52, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Mark

Mark Fisher Was the executive Producer of The Breakout Mma.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.246.13.115 (talk)

We have articles on many Mark Fishers. Which one are you referring to? Joseph2302 (talk) 15:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

I can't find any connection between a Mark Fisher and any MMA article. You'll have to provide us with a link. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Caucasian Race

Hi The entry is biased and wrong. This should be corrected immediately Mike— Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.25.43 (talk)

Hi Mike. We can;'t respond to a general grievance. If you have specific errors to point out in that article, please comment on its article talk page, detailing the specific errors. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state, so if those sources are not being summarized accurately, we want to know about it. If you don't like what the sources say, but the article summarizes them accurately, you will need to take that up with the sources. 331dot (talk) 15:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Missing pin on Infobox map

I have added {{Infobox bridge}} (including | coordinates = {{coord|54|53|50.6|N|1|41|16.1|W|display=inline,title|region:GB type:landmark}}) to the Causey Arch article, but it only shows the pin on the map while in preview mode. When I read the article normally, there is no pin. I think all my brackets are correctly terminated, and nothing else seems to go wrong. The pin does appear if I click on the map to make it full screen.--Verbarson (talk) 16:35, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Verbarson: Weird? It appears perfectly fine for me. — Mcguy15 (talk, contribs) 16:41, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Mcguy15:, I'm using Windows 10 (with IPv4). It behaves the same using Edge, Chrome or Internet Explorer. I've just tried it on a different laptop, with a different IP (IPv6), running Chrome on Lubuntu, and it still behaves the same.--Verbarson (talk) 16:56, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Further, I am logged in on the Windows laptop, but not on the Lubuntu laptop.--Verbarson (talk) 16:58, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

My edit has corrected the display of the coordinates at the top right, but I'm not seeing the pin either (Windows 10, Firefox) -- John of Reading (talk) 17:37, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

I see the pin just fine. Windows 10, using chrome. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

I am also Windows 10, on Brave (chromium), and the pin displays fine on all wp skins, as well as en.m.wikipedia. — Mcguy15 (talk, contribs) 17:59, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

No pin for me unless I click the map for an enlarged version. (W10, Chrome browser, [10], Ctrl-F5 refreshed). Bazza (talk) 19:55, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Works fine for me both on Firefox, version 90.0.2, and on Chromium, version 90.0.4430.212. Above: "I'm using Windows 10 (with IPv4). It behaves the same using Edge, Chrome or Internet Explorer." MSIE is now something of an antique; are you using the latest versions of Edge and Chrome? -- Hoary (talk) 22:08, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Tell me about it. I have to use it professionally for one essential program that uses ActiveXes. However, IE and Edge are as up-to-date as a security-conscious IT policy can keep them. Chrome may be a bit older.

The Chrome on the Lubuntu box is Version 92.0.4515.131 (Official Build) (64-bit).

I have yet to find another article/infobox that fails to show the pin.--Verbarson (talk) 06:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

I've just copied the article verbatim to User:Verbarson/Causey Arch - and the pin appears! (I have since colonised the categories - pin stayed).--Verbarson (talk) 06:42, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Solution (of sorts). I have entirely removed the {{coords}} from the coordinates parameter. The pin now appears on the map (presumably based on the OS grid ref?) and the coordinates still appear in the infobox (though not at the head of the article). Can anyone explain this? --Verbarson (talk) 15:16, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Please help me in editing a Biography

There is a Biographical page of Sree Sree Thakur Anukulchandra ; in this following link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anukulchandra_Chakravarty I want to expand it an modify it. I have proper resources but I don't know how to make the required stable changes. Please guide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Souvikghoshias (talk • contribs) 2021-08-13T18:57:32 (UTC)

Souvikghoshias, WP:TUTORIAL and WP:ADVENTURE can be good places to start. Learning to add inline citations correctly is essential. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:28, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Souvidghoshias. Thank you for wanting to improve Wikipedia. THat article certainly could do with expansion. But I think you need to be careful: looking at the article's history, there have been many attempts to add material, subsequently removed because it was not cited or not neutral. Remember that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. More or less every statement you add should be supported by a citation to a reliable source independent of Anukulchandra and his movement. It might be a good idea to ask for a collaborator at WT:INDIA. --ColinFine (talk) 19:02, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Edit link

On en.wiki, if I edit a section of a page, the edit link is to the far right, which is where I want it. I assume this is somewhere in my Preferences, but I'm not sure where. When I edit at meta, I also want the edit link in the same position, but it's just to the right of the section header. I went through Preferences on meta, but I couldn't find it. Thanks for any help.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:35, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Bbb23: You probably have the gadget "Move section [edit] links to the right side of the screen" (Preferences → Gadgets → Appearance) enabled here on en.wp. It doesn't seem to exist on meta, but you should be able to use it there by putting @import url("https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-righteditlinks.css?action=raw&ctype=text/css"); at the top of your m:Special:MyPage/common.css. – Rummskartoffel 19:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Rummskartoffel: It doesn't work. You can look at it on meta and tell me if I did anything wrong. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Bbb23: You're missing the semicolon at the end. Try adding that, that might fix it. With the semicolon, it works for me. – Rummskartoffel 21:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Rummskartoffel: It does indeed. I figured it was my fault. It'd be so much better if I understood the syntax rather than following instructions mindlessly. Thanks! --Bbb23 (talk) 21:30, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Bbb23: By now it's too late for me answer differently, but there's an explanation of the syntax at MDN if you're interested. Besides, I wasn't aware the semicolon mattered, either – I'm not very intimately familiar with CSS, so I was relaying instructions mindlessly –, that was just the obvious difference. – Rummskartoffel 10:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

@Rummskartoffel: But you knew enough to tell me what to do and to make it relatively easy for me to do it. I had no clue where to start, so forgive me but I think I still win the prize for mindlessness. The irony is I don't edit at meta very often, so it's a minor improvement. Regards.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:02, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Foreign Language link wrong person

There seems to be some confusion as there are 2 people with the name Andrew Gower.

Andrew Christopher Gower (born 1978) is a computer programmer whose English Wikipedia page was recently merged with the one from Jagex (which I thnk he created).

There is however also an actor called Andrew Gower (born 1989).

When Andrew Christopher Gower's Wikipedia page was merged with the Jagex one, it meant that if people looked for Andrew Gower (the actor), they were also redirected to the Jagex page.

I suggested to change that and apparently it was. If you're currently looking for Andrew Gower, you are directed to the actor's page BUT if you click any of the links to read the article in a different language, you suddenly end up on the foreign language page for the computer programmer.

Andrew Gower (the actor) has pages on Wikipedia in English, German, Egyptian Arabian and Hebrew (according to the German article).

I don't know how this can be fix but I hope it can!

Minkerbelle (talk) 19:18, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Minkerbelle. This happened because the original wikidata item, d:Q2451677, wasn't updated. I've went ahead and update that one, as well as the one it should be linked to, d:Q4757137. It might take some time for the article on Wikipedia to update, but it should link to the correct interwiki articles now. Thanks for the heads up! Isabelle ^🔔 19:30, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

I'd like to avoid to be seen as sockpupper

I've a friend who wants to create an account. The problem is that we live in the same city and we may share the same IP adress. What can I do to avoid to be a seen as sockpupper? Dr Salvus 19:57, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Are they likely to use the exact same device to log in as yourself? So long as you/they declare it, there'll be no issues. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:09, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Where to put the dash, if any in this title?

I would like to create an article on an emerging software architecture called "micro frontend". I am however confused about the spelling to use:

• I have found at least 5 books as potential sources, which all use the spelling "Micro frontend". There are also dozen of web articles using the same spelling. So this appears to be the spelling used by the specialists of the field.
• However this spelling is not consistent with the traditional use of "micro" which is concatenated to the noun that it characterises, such as Microprocessor, Micrometer or Microservices (which is, by the way, in the same software architecture field as micro frontends).
• Moreover on a couple of secondary sources, I have found the spelling "Micro-frontend"
• To make it worse, it appears on wikipedia and in the literature that the second term can be written "front end" (as in the title of wikipedia article Front end and back end), "frontend" (as in the body of that same article), "front-end" (as in the body of the wikipedia disambiguation page Front end.
• A review of academic computing papers (ACM library, published between 1974 and 2021) shows 89 articles using "front-end" spelling in the title, 35 using "front end", and 16 using "frontend". If reducing this corpus to the articles focused on user interfaces, the proportion remains similar.
• A look in the Ngram viewer does not help further: it shows a predominance of "front end", then "front-end", then "frontend". However, the corpus is general purpose and not as specilaized as the ACM corpus.
• The Wikipedia Manual of style clarifies the capitalization rules. But, I see an issue in the using commonly accepted names considering the diversity above (the spelling of the recent books on the topics seem then the best candidate?) vs the recommendation to avoid dashes.

The following title seem possible "Micro frontend", "Microfrontend", Micro-frontend", "Micro front-end", "Micro front end", "Micro-front-end" (other combinations would be possible but inconsistent). Therefore, to prevent a lot of successive name changes and unnecessary hassle, I would like to know what would be the recommended wording applying the wikipedia rules and style guide.

Thanks in advance Christophe (talk) 23:30, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Per WP:COMMONNAME, you should use the name which is most commonly used for this subject. From what you've said, I would say that would be "Micro frontend" since that's what is used by most authors writing about it. The fact that the name is inconsistent with other uses of the micro- prefix is not a strong argument to use a nonstandard name. We have articles with similar stand-alone "micro" in their names, when that is the most commonly used name, such as Micro black hole, Micro Transport Protocol, Micro hydro, Micro air vehicle, Micro ribbon connector, Micro combined heat and power, etc. CodeTalker (talk) 00:44, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

August 14

Frances Lupton

Please repair recent file added (photo) - it is far too big - I got it wrong. Thanks 49.3.153.231 (talk) 01:33, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done —C.Fred (talk) 01:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Can the file added recently - old photo in the info box - be made a bigger so we can see the lady's face more clearly? please? Thanks 49.3.153.231 (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

I cropped the photo so her face appears larger in the infobox. GoingBatty (talk) 02:08, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Michael Middleton (British businessman)

Ref number 17 is all wrong - no title (?). please repair - sorry 49.3.153.231 (talk) 02:46, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 Fixed! GoingBatty (talk) 03:06, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia

Hurrah!

Do you have a question?

No, I'm just saying hurrah!

This is the Wikipedia Help Desk. We cannot cope with random expressions of joy. Please go and be happy elsewhere.

Y Done. MinorProphet (talk) 19:45, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Reversing a redirect

Ibrahim El-Salahi is a redirect to Ibrahim el-Salahi. But, of the sources it cites that I'm able to access and that mention his name, 15 use "El" and only one uses "el". So I'd like to move that article to "Ibrahim El-Salahi" and make the redirect go the other way. Am I, as an editor with no relevant special powers, able to do this? If so, how? Maproom (talk) 09:22, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

@Maproom: Since the redirect has more than one line in its history, the move needs an admin. The usual way to request this is with {{db-move}} -- John of Reading (talk) 09:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and moved the article, although I have no thoughts of my own as to where it should lay. The best place to request these is WP:RM under technical moves. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:03, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

@Maproom: What a mess. Take a look at Wikipedia:Arabic names and its links. Apparently, the "proper" English translation of an Arabic name with "al-" or "el-" is the uncapitalized form and our convention is to use that as the article name, but the uncapitalized forms are so common in the sources that we are advised to be very aggressive about creating redirects. Essentially, the "el" or "al" means "the", so capitalizing is is equivilent to capitalizing "the" in Bob the Builder. -Arch dude (talk) 16:33, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Your article will be reviewed in about a week

I made and edit and published. Wikipedia then says, "your article will be reviewed in about a week". If I then make another edit 3 days later, does the week long estimate start over? Does my article go back to the end of the line for review? Or, does it stay in que in the same position?

If I submit an article and wikiepedia says it will be reviewed in about a week, then I make edits 3 days later and publish again, does my article for review stay in the same place in the que, or does the clock start over and my article goes back to the end of the que? Blmalone (talk) 11:33, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Blmalone the message says, "This may take a week or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order." There is not a queue, so you will not lose your place by further edits. TSventon (talk) 11:46, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Help

Hi Wikipedia Help Desk participants, When i try to edit any article on Wikipedia by mobile at desktop mode at that time one notice appears i.e You are using a browser which is not officially supported by this editor. Please tell me how to solve this problem.Fade258 (talk) 14:03, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

@Fade258: I’ve never seen that before. You might have more luck at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

reftag.appspot.com

Is Google Books cite down? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scope creep (talk • contribs) 14:19, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Help Save Faith,

Hello,

A big thank you for the use of Wikipedia, I have created an acount called Help Save Faith, Am I able to share Photos, Videos, as well as information on the User Page, And is the talk page for general discussion regarding other isues as wel as Help Save Faith,??

Thank you again,Help Save Faith, (talk) 14:21, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

@Help Save Faith,: Sorry, but no. Please read WP:NOT. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a blog or social media. You may use your user page to tell us about yourself as a wikipedia editor, e.g. what sort of Wikipedia activities you enjoy. See WP:USERPAGE. Article talk pages are specifically NOT for general discussion of the topic. They are for collaboration about how to improve the article. -Arch dude (talk) 14:42, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine...

It would seem that the long arm of pharmaceuticals has invaded every information source on earth. Media, through their censorship, has doomed them to obscurity. No one believes them anymore. and now we come to find out that Wikipedia is no different.

Winston Heisler Pensacola, Florida

We cannot reply to generalized statements like this. If you find a error on any article, then please comment on the article's talk page. Provide reliable sources. -Arch dude (talk) 16:17, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

It would seem that the long arm of conspiracy nuts has invaded every information source on earth. Media, through their lack of oversight, has have doomed us to being bombarded by their incessant, unhinged blather. No one with any sense believes them anymore. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:03, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Also, what does "Media, through their censorship, has doomed them to obscurity" even mean? If the media are ignoring them, then what's your problem? Clarityfiend (talk) 19:06, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Fair use on photo of people

Why I cannot have fair use on living person? because only dead person have lesser privacy protection? How to get possible to use photo of living people other than fair use? thank you. Hmht45tgree3d (talk) 20:13, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Be the copyright holder of an image. We cannot have fair use on living people, as generally the WP:NFCC criteria of being replaceable isn't met. If someone is alive, then someone could take a free image of the subject. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:18, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

YesAutosign

Twice today I have left posts unsigned. I have the YesAutosign template on my talk page, and it usually works, but not today. Any ideas? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:52, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

The bot that automatically signs posts is down, and it's operator hasn't edited since October 2020. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:00, 14 August 2021 (UTC)