User talk:Cbl62/Archive 2012

1997 Michigan Wolverines football team

At one point 1997 Michigan Wolverines football team was on your radar screen. Where is helping clean this up on your list of todos?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:49, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Please use Commons

Hello. Yesterday, I transferred a file which you uploaded to Commons. In the future, please upload unquestionably free use images to Commons, unless you specifically do not want them on Commons, in which case you should use a {{Keeplocal}} tag. Thank you. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

2011 Michigan Wolverines football WP:LEAD

The facts that you added to the WP:LEAD disagree with the tables in the text.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:29, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Is the rushing defense for conference games only or something?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:06, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Since the stats were not current I removed them. They finished 3rd in rush defense and I don't know about 3rd down conversion.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:16, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I think we x-post eced. See above.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:21, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

C. B. Johnston

Any chance you can do some searching? There's info in ref#1 - his grandson is trying to search for him, he seems to have disappeared after a certain time and nothing has come up for him. The grandson mentions he may have changed his name on his website, which may complicate things further, but could you maybe have a look and add anything you can find that I haven't already? Thanks. – Connormah (talk) 22:13, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of 1948 Michigan Wolverines football team

Hello! Your submission of 1948 Michigan Wolverines football team at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Miyagawa (talk) 23:21, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1948 Michigan Wolverines football team

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1922 Michigan Wolverines football team

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1913 Michigan Wolverines football team

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear Cbl62,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

• Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
• Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
• All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
• All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
• The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 02:31, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1923 Michigan Wolverines football team

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:29, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Tony Dauksza

The DYK project (nominate) 16:05, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Russell D. Oliver

The DYK project (nominate) 05:32, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Category:Penn State Nittany Lions athletic directors

Category:Penn State Nittany Lions athletic directors, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 14:53, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1933 Michigan Wolverines football team

Thanks Victuallers (talk) 17:51, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Running Man Barnstar
		For illustrating countless sports biography articles by delving head first into mountains of yearbook archives. CrazyPaco (talk) 08:36, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Template High Street Phoenix

Thanks for your comments. Iv replied on the said template, which should hopefully answer the issues you raised. Cheers, Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 06:01, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for a quick response, Iv removed the contentious word. Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 06:12, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK: La tentation

Thanks for your comment: I have created an ALT which I hope deals with your reservation - Best, --Smerus (talk) 07:56, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Indiana historical markers photo

Thanks for the review and the compliments! Regarding the choice of image, I'd rather include your opinion than simply choosing by myself. I agree that many images of historic sites commemorated by markers are more eye-catching than images of markers themselves, but I'm concerned by the fact that an image that doesn't prominently feature a historical marker is less likely to be closely related to the list. That's why I put otherwise not-so-good images of markers at the top of each photo column on the list page, and also that's why I'm not really interested in featuring the beautiful First State Capital image that you suggested. Compounding the problem is the fact that most images that concentrate on historical markers will show old, ugly pieces of metal: most markers placed before 1978 have deteriorated somewhat, and markers placed in 1978 and later are still under all-rights-reserved copyright, so we can't have images that feature them directly. Finally, if we could choose a nicer image that represented the list well, I'm not sure how we'd word the (pictured) statement.

All this being said, can you suggest a good image? I'm quite open to replacing the Pivot Point marker with a better-looking image that will satisfy my concerns. Nyttend (talk) 01:07, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1892 Michigan Wolverines football team

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1885 Michigan Wolverines football team

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

GA Thanks

Thanks for your continuing efforts with respect to all things related to the Michigan Wolverines. Among the recent contributions that I appreciate are your editorial contributions to Junior Hemingway, which is now a GA. Although they are not so major, they certainly speak to your continuing excellence as an editor.

This user helped promote Junior Hemingway to good article status.

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:40, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1884 Michigan Wolverines football team

The DYK project (nominate) 08:01, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

FYI

I jokingly "tagged" you in a post at WT:CFB#C. J. McNaspy. Cheers! Jrcla2 (talk) 13:01, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Request for Comments: Team infobox practices

Cbl, your comments regarding team infobox practices are solicited: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College Basketball#Request for Comments: NCAA Sweet Sixteen phantom appearances. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 13:00, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1879 Michigan Wolverines football team

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1888 Michigan Wolverines football team

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 18:00, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1880 Michigan Wolverines football team

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1909 Michigan Wolverines football team

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:02, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Review request

I need somebody to review Anthony Davis (basketball) at DYK so we can put it on the main page during the championship game if Kentucky wins today.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Running Man Barnstar
		For illustrating countless sports biography articles by delving head first into mountains of yearbook archives. CrazyPaco (talk) 08:36, 6 March 2012 (UTC) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2011 Michigan vs. Notre Dame football game I want to make sure you noticed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2011 Michigan vs. Notre Dame football game.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:14, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Photo requests

Hi! Are you still in Los Angeles? WhisperToMe (talk) 11:25, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, there are several things that I would like.

Do you do photos in West LA? If so, here are some ideas:

• Former Continental Airlines headquarters at World Way West Road, Los Angeles International Airport, Los Angeles - See this map - Click "W" and you will see the side with the former Continental logo. - Please photograph that side
• Ralph's headquarters - 1100 W. Artesia Blvd. Compton, CA 90220
• Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer headquarters - 245 North Beverly Drive Beverly Hills, California 90210
• Santa Monica-Malibu Unified School District headquarters - 1651 Sixteenth Street, Santa Monica, CA
• Santa Monica High School Main entrance - 601 Pico, Santa Monica, CA
• Palisades Charter High School (higher quality photo) - 15777 Bowdoin Street, Pacific Palisades, California, 90272.

Do you do photos in the San Fernando Valley too?

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 02:58, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1908 Michigan Wolverines football team

Orlady (talk) 08:02, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1906 Michigan Wolverines football team

Orlady (talk) 08:01, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1908–09 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Orlady (talk) 16:05, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1907 Michigan Wolverines football team

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:47, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Henry Hallowell Farquhar

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1917–18 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

F. M. Hall

Any chance you can get to working on F. M. Hall, who apparently played at UMich in 1896 after not graduating from Princeton (from what I understand)? Thanks. – Connormah (talk) 05:15, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Looks awesome. Thanks! – Connormah (talk) 22:18, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Walter B. Rea

Orlady (talk) 16:04, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Frank Harrigan

Orlady (talk) 00:05, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for George Haggarty

Yngvadottir (talk) 00:05, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1925 Michigan Wolverines football team

Materialscientist (talk) 08:03, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Nice looking article. Good job! Location (talk) 14:34, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1910 Michigan Wolverines football team

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Forrest M. Hall

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Stories Project

Hi!

My name is Victor and I'm a storyteller with the Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit organization that supports Wikipedia. I'm chronicling the inspiring stories of the Wikipedia community around the world, including those from readers, editors, and donors. Stories are absolutely essential for any non-profit to persuade people to support the cause, and we know the vast network of people who make and use Wikipedia have so much to share.

I'd very much like the opportunity to interview you to tell your story, with the possibility of using it in our materials, on our community websites, or as part of this year’s fundraiser to encourage others to support Wikipedia. Please let me know if you're inclined to take part in the Wikipedia Stories Project, or if you know anyone with whom I should speak.

Thank you for your time,

Victor Grigas

user:Victorgrigas

vgrigas@wikimedia.org

Victor Grigas (talk) 00:09, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

National Register documentation

A while ago (okay, a long time ago in wiki-time) you did a whole lot of articles on Los Angeles area historic buildings. I wanted to let you know that the National Park Service has finally scanned their nomination documents for California NRHP properties, and they're online on at the NRHP site [1] if you're interested. Acroterion (talk) 14:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Whacky priorities

Cbl, were you a party to the 2007 sports notability discussions when Arena Football League players were granted a presumption of notability based on an appearance in a single game? That's just bizarre. I'm not sure how I blew by that element of WP:NGRIDIRON, since I'm fond of quoting it in full . . . perhaps because my eyes simply couldn't believe it. BTW, it was inserted on September 3, 2007 at 23:10 by User:Jmfangio, who was already twice indefinitely banned for being a sock puppet. Previous versions of the standard applicable to Arena players required multiple starts or play in multiple seasons. The athletic skill, media coverage and inherent notability of Arena Football League players are not on remotely the same level as those of the NFL. It's a mystery to how this ever got by, but it's probably too damn late to do anything about it now. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:03, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

comment re WP:NCFB and WP:NCOLLATH

Cbl, I am kicking around a more specific notability standards for those CFB players who do not meet one or more of the new specific presumption standards on which we already agree (i.e. recipients of major national CFB awards, CFB hall of famers, consensus and first-team All-Americans, major NCAA record holders). In particular, I would like to see the following language included in the new WP:NCFB and/or WP:NCOLLATH:

• "substantial, in-depth and prolonged coverage by independent, reliable sources of the individual college athlete, distinct from any team of which the athlete may be a member" (the "substantial and prolonged" concept is an import from the present standard for high school athletes);
• "in determining the notability of a college athlete, regional media coverage shall carry more weight than that of local or hometown media; and national media coverage shall more weight than that of regional media" (as we have discussed);
• "coverage by recruiting services should be given little, if any, weight in determining the notability of a college athlete" (the idea being to eliminate Scout.com, Rivals.com, etc., as sources for establishing notability);
• "fan blogs shall be given no weight in determining the notability of a college athlete, but major media blogs written by professional journalists and subject to editorial review may be considered" (let's make it specific);
• specifically define "independent sources" to exclude "any media guide, record book, press release, newspaper, blog, website or other publication affiliated with, written or published by the athlete, the athlete's team, athletic department, university, or conference" (the idea here is to consolidate the concept of independent sources buried in WP:N, and tailor it to the specifics of college athletes for the new WP:NCFB and revised WP:NCOLLATH); and
• specifically define "routine coverage" to include "simple quotes from the player, simple quotes about the player's practice or game performances from his coaches, recitation of game statistics, and descriptions of noteworthy plays in post-game articles; coverage of lists of honors and awards; coverage of preseason watch lists; and coverage of the player's recruitment process" (recruitment really should be covered under the standard applicable to high school, not college athletes).
• include links to five or six specific examples of substantial/in-depth/meaningful coverage of the individual athlete (I think we can easily agree on five or six solid examples from the Michigan players we have both reviewed).

That's as tight a standard for which I could ever hope to get consensus, and I hope you will consider these ideas. I still think it offers some subjective wiggle room, but provides better tools to AfD participants when three-quarters of them look at an article and say "that ain't notable." If we can agree on some compromise language, then we can propose it to the working group, and get their input.

We also need to give some serious thought to what we want to do about notability standards for CFB rivalry series and individual CFB regular season games. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:05, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1911 Michigan Wolverines football team

Yngvadottir (talk) 00:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for George C. Thomson

Yngvadottir (talk) 00:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Lorri Bauman

Hello! Your submission of Lorri Bauman at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! —Bagumba (talk) 02:41, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Lorri Bauman

Yngvadottir (talk) 16:03, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Requested page move

Cbl, as an administrator can you please move Saint Ambrose University over the redirect St. Ambrose University? According to the school's own website they use "St." and all sources I've found, especially the majority of Ghits, indicate that the naming convention is the abbreviated form. I was trying to categorize the baseball and football subcategories when I ran into this naming issue. Also, when you do this, can you please let me know so that I can speedy rename some of those categories? Thanks! Jrcla2 (talk) 14:39, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Weldy Walker

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

• Just a quick note to let you know that I really enjoyed reading this article. What a great piece of baseball/race/American history! J04n(talk page) 15:36, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Frank Bliss

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:07, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Fred Bonine

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Jeter-Boggs picture for 3000 hit club

Greetings. I saw you were the author of the Jeter-Winfield picture, so I thought I would seek your help. I think that the 3,000 hit club article could be better with a picture of Jeter and Boggs since they are the only ones to homeruns for their 3,000th hit. I found a good picture, but I am not sure about wikipedia's picture guidelines esp with it not being my image. The site is http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://blog.lovemyteam.com/wp-content/2012/02/boggs-and-jeter.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blog.lovemyteam.com/2012/02/21/on-base-percentage/&usg=__yrXX3ihmv8gSN5dTcrI18zx4TxA=&h=750&w=552&sz=89&hl=en&start=8&zoom=1&tbnid=MFoRZDJvc1ZhBM:&tbnh=141&tbnw=104&ei=ZBHST9eoD6nS6gHA_-m3Aw&um=1&itbs=1 Take care. Arnabdas (talk) 14:55, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Did you know nominations/Althea Wynne

Found5dollar seems to have answered the copyright question at Template:Did you know nominations/Althea Wynne. You might like to take another look. Moonraker (talk) 10:45, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Lincoln MacMillan

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for John Hibbard

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bert Sincock

Yngvadottir (talk) 16:02, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Duncan Curry

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:04, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Help Survey

Hi there, my name's Peter Coombe and I'm a Wikimedia Community Fellow working on a project to improve Wikipedia's help system. At the moment I'm trying to learn more about how people use and find the current help pages. If you could help by filling out this brief survey about your experiences, I'd be very grateful. It should take less than 10 minutes, and your responses will not be tied to your username in any way.

Thank you for your time,
the wub (talk) 18:08, 14 June 2012 (UTC) (Delivered using Global message delivery)

DYK for Fred Blanding

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:07, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Jack Enzenroth

Yngvadottir (talk) 08:02, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

2011 Michigan Wolverines football team GA Review

FYI Talk:2011 Michigan Wolverines football team#GA Review. Please help make this article better per the reviewer. TomCat4680 (talk) 21:12, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Henry Oxley

Great job on this expansion. I threw it up at T:TDYK. See here. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:40, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bob Glenn

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:29, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:NSPORTS--future WP:NCFB guideline

Greetings, Cbl. Are you ready to continue this discussion: User:Cbl62/College football notability? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:39, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Nice rescue work

I don't have a barnstar handy, but how about a Green Weenie? :D DarkAudit (talk) 06:42, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

rescue needed

of this Sporting Life (magazine); since you seem to use it regularly, i figured you could do a good job of adding more meat to the bones of that.--KarlB (talk) 14:22, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	That is some substantial research and editing in expanding stub player articles, such as Henry Oxley and Ed Carfrey. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:04, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I also nominated Carfrey's page at DYK: here – Muboshgu (talk) 17:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Johnny Gee

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Ancestry request

Hi Cbl62 - can you get the DOB for Paul B. Parker from the U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970 database on Ancestry? Thanks. – Connormah (talk) 06:25, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Also, can you pull a DOB/DOD for Edgar Wingard from [2] and [3]? Thanks again. – Connormah (talk) 06:35, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Also, if you get the chance, could you maybe look at expanding and/or finding a DOD for W. J. King and William J. Young (coach)? Thanks. – Connormah (talk) 19:35, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the Wingard date! Are you able to view Parker's DOB? Was wondering if we could connect him to the one born in August 1898 on the SSDI. – Connormah (talk) 23:36, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/4 2012 Pulitzer Prize Winners

PumpkinSky wants your answer and wants to promote this nom. --George Ho (talk) 22:33, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Hal Elliott

Thanks from the DYK team. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for John Herrnstein

Yngvadottir (talk) 16:03, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Henry Oxley

Yngvadottir (talk) 16:03, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bud Morse

Thank you from the DYK team. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sporting Life (American newspaper)

Hello! Your submission of Sporting Life (American newspaper) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Chris857 (talk) 02:12, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Wally Gilbert

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

De Mores picture

Nice find! I couldn't even really tell what I was looking at in that other one... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:32, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

RE: Wally Gilbert

Because the article was already assessed as "stub". I only copied the previous assessments. If you believe it is not a stub anymore, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Assessment and you may re-assess it by yourself. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 22:55, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Don Eaddy

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Would you mind reviewing the sports section of my new page creation?

As a big fan of HBO's Deadwood and Walter Hill, I was surprised to find frequent Hill stunt coordinator Allan Graf had no page about him. What a story I found. Would you mind looking it over, especially the sections where your college football knowledge could serve the page? I'm thinking about a DYK hook, but before I post one, I thought I'd ask someone who really loved the subject matter. I'll see if I can find a filmmaker group reviewer to help me depuff the film making section a bit. Not enough sources at this time to take this to FA, but GA looks very doable. Thanks in any case. Love your work. BusterD (talk) 03:25, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for List of athletes who played in Major League Baseball and the National Football League

Yngvadottir (talk) 08:03, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

List of Florida state parks

I have responded to your review of Did you know nominations/List of Florida state parks. Thanks for your comments. Mgrē@sŏn 18:51, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bill McAfee

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:20, 4 July 2012 (UTC) 08:02, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Jahlil Okafor

Have a look at Template:Did you know nominations/Jahlil Okafor.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:58, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Sporting Life (American newspaper)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Sam Mikulak

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:06, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Melissa Breen

Hi. I commented back on Template:Did you know nominations/Melissa Breen if you could comment again on the review. :) --LauraHale (talk) 05:03, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pete Appleton

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Mitch Ivey

Cbl, could you take a look at the Mitch Ivey article, particularly the last paragraph? This article is 100% my handiwork, and I want to make sure that my retelling of the circumstances of his firing by the University of Florida in 1993 is a 100% fair, accurate and balanced retelling. It is, of course, fully footnoted with articles from The Gainesville Sun, The New York Times and Orlando Sentinel. Oddly, nothing survives on the ESPN website. Please let me know what you think, and make any changes you think appropriate. I am particularly interested in your perspective as an attorney, not just a sports fan. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:08, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ed Carfrey

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bruce Haynam

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bill Mogk

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for De Mores Packing Plant Ruins

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Patty Gasso

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	Great idea to help ease some of the stress in the Sarek/Orlady/Doncram issue. It's nice when folks don't go straight to some form of a block or ban and find other workable solutions. That yours also involves more work and commitment on your part is also impressive. What's even better is that they all seem to agree. Good job. v/r - TP 20:24, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Steve Boros

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	Nice job on the doncom/orlady/sov issue Fasttimes68 (talk) 15:27, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

South Wild Rice Church

Thanks for your contributions here; the way you found it is a good example of the problems we're having with pages produced by its creator, and the way you left it is a good example of what we're trying to get him to do. Just one note — the "nearest_city" parameter of the infobox is just meant for the city; we have a separate parameter for the address, so I've moved it to that parameter. Nyttend (talk) 02:35, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Request

Could you take a look at Talk:C. Ferris White and chime in regarding the dispute there? Thanks. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 12:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Rum Ration

Any progress with this review? It's been sitting a while... Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 21:53, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Joseph A. Shannon

Hi Cbl62. If you could take a look at the Joseph A. Shannon article and its linked works articles and probably all their NRHP documents, I'd appreciate some help. I think I have figured out from NRHP documents that Joseph A. Shannon is the same person who is named J.H. Shannon in one NRHP document and John A. Shannon in another. While not the same as an architect J.A. Shannon in Oklahoma who designed Tishomingo City Hall. E.g. 2 sources state a different variation is the designer of one work, the Dickey Free Library. I am left struggling how to present it in the main architect article and in the others, too. I have not looked for other sources besides the NRHP documents. It would be helpful, presentation-wise, to find an external source that identified the mistakes/variations in names; currently I am not sure how to treat the subject of apparent mistakes in mainspace. There might be more material about Shannon in the NRHP docs for some of the linked articles that I never got to, but I'm walking away from this one for a while. Thanks for your other work recently. Cheers, --doncram 19:34, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Syque Caesar

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Norman Sas

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

some archeological sites

Hi. FYI in completing out articles linked directly from List of RHPs in ND i just started relatively weaker articles for:

• Evans Site (New Town, North Dakota)
• High Butte Effigy and Village Site (32ME13)
• Lower Souris National Wildlife Refuge Airplane Hangar
• Lynch Quarry Site
• Crystal Springs Fountain
• Myers School Timbered Lodge (32BI401)
• Custer Military Trail Historic Archaeological District

I do think these are valid, useful articles but note these are weaker than many others because there are not NRHP docs available online for these ones, i think because they are new listings or they are address-restricted archeological sites. If you have any wonderful ideas about how to improve these, I would be happy to see them. Again, I think they are useful as they are now and don't think it will be productive if/when certain editors attack.... :) --doncram 22:10, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I have found some sources for the fountain and placed them on its talk page. Chris857 (talk) 22:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Chris857! And thanks Cbl62 for your edits at several of these.

I've since created a few more short articles on archeological sites and/or newly listed NRHP sites within List of RHPs in Burleigh and List of RHPs in Cass, too. Just about done starting articles for North Dakota, just a few more in Cass remaining.

I note your edit on Seiler Building, cbl, and think it's fine but not clearly needed. What the standards should be is simply not clear. Here both before and after versions are fine in terms of adequacy of credit to avoid appearance of plagiarism; often edits to change from good quotes that completely avoid plagiarism actually introduce plagiarism (state of inadequate credit being given to original authors for their ideas and for their wording) or change the meaning unintentionally. Thanks, will keep thinking.

I've just found Research Plot 2 and Research Plot 30 at North Dakota State University as likely good candidates for DYKs, about continuous cultivation of wheat and flax, respectively, allowing for research not feasible without the high levels of pathogens present from continuous cultivation. I'd be very happy to have help developing either or both of these, especially! Cheers, --doncram 14:55, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for C. Ferris White

Orlady (talk) 08:02, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

"Something that I find troubling"

I am troubled to discover that Doncram apparently thinks I am banned from participating in an AfD (not started by me nor by SarekOfVulcan) for an article page that he created several days ago. Please see Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Sons of Norway Building (Minneapolis, Minnesota). --Orlady (talk) 01:45, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Not troubling. Just a comment. Regarding this, do note that the underlying cause of the discrepancies is the use of a database entry, contents of which are constrained by a limited number of coding options, as the sole basis for creation of a new article. --Orlady (talk) 23:57, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

ANI

Your name is mentioned at ANI in the new section Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#A_new_wrinkle_on_personal_attacks? that I just started. --Orlady (talk) 17:52, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Birch Creek Charcoal Kilns

Please tell Doncram about Template:Did you know nominations/Birch Creek Charcoal Kilns. I hope he won't be offended that I expanded upon his stub. --Orlady (talk) 18:26, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Feicks

Hi. I wonder if you'd care to research and edit about builder George Feick, and various associated sons and/or brothers. I think architect George Feick, Jr. (currently a redlink) was son of the builder. George Jr. was apparently a principal in "Purcell, Feick & Elmslie", currently covered just a little bit in Purcell & Elmslie article which downplays his role. An Adam and maybe a philip and others are involved. I currently think that maybe any constructing-only sons/brothers should be redirected to, and covered in, the George Feick article. And maybe the Purcell & Elmslie article should be moved to "Purcell, Feick & Elmslie" and expanded and that George, Jr. should be redirected there. I'd be happy to defer to whatever you might judge, if you'd care to consider this web. I may or may not soon proceed on starting all the linked NRHP articles, which could end up collecting more relevant information. regards, --doncram 17:47, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

editing help

Hi Cbl62. I would appreciate it if you would consider editing the Jules Leffland article, which I started a few wikibreaks ago, and which included long quotes that were commented out by another editor. I happened across it again and have edited slightly, including restoring the quotes. I don't recall exactly what I had intended with the article, perhaps i had meant to edit it further myself and to use some of that material in other ways. But I would be relieved if you could happen to be interested in editing it, instead. I may work at starting linked articles to make more material available, such as built dates for the architect's works. Thanks also for your developing the Walter Mickle Smith article. --doncram 22:04, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for developing that Jules Leffland article. Thanks also for your research and editing at John Y. Hill. I note your commenting at Talk:John Y. Hill#Other John Hills and responded there. Maybe I was semi-legalistic / defensive in my response there. I do appreciate your attention and your apparent interest in development of articles on pretty obscure architects and builders that I have been working on. I assume you have some real interest in the challenge of establishing these, and are motivated by the Good Thing of providing this info for wikipedia readers, and also I experience the timing of your contributions as generally be helpful to me personally. I don't know if more needs to be said. Thanks.

I went ahead and started an article on John J. Hill, too, to which your attention would also be appreciated if you are interested. :) I dunno; i think i might not have started that one if I didn't think you were interested and following, because it falls below a 5 NRHP threshold that I am kinda inclined to stick to, for the most part, unless I happen to find my way to pretty good sources. I don't want to push you to do work if you don't like it, but your following and your research skills, conveyed without complaints could somewhat influence my threshold. If you want to comment, please do. I do expect that John J. Hill is wikipedia-notable and it is a good thing to get it started, though. Cheers, --doncram 22:11, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

T.S. Christian could use help. It currently functions a bit like a disambiguation page, covering builder(s) in Pennsylvania and in North Carolina, possibly the same person or possibly two different persons. I have found MPS documents but no birth & death dates or other particulars. I think it is okay/good/useful to have as a wikipedia article on an amorphous-but-important small topic, as is, but it is unusual and I am sure others would prefer for there to be more detail and more certainty. --doncram 10:14, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

And Vernon R. Covell is an engineer, having not great development. It generally seems harder to document builders and engineers, while the professional associations and historians provide more generally about architects. --doncram 10:38, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Pictures

Great work with the pictures. Do you know how to find the top 10 QB rushing numbers for Denard's article? The pages I have googled are broken links.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:19, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Cbl, great pictures from Ann Arbor this past Saturday. Glad you go out to the Big House. All the best, Jweiss11 (talk) 18:16, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Assuming bad faith

I've not assumed bad faith of your edits; kindly don't assume bad faith of mine. Your edit summary here is not acceptable. Prioryman (talk) 10:08, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Cbl62's edit summary referenced above: "source merely says the museum supported training session in June, not that the project is supported currently or on ongoing basis by the museum - recent edits appear to reflect POV promotion".

That's pretty mild stuff. Sorry, Priroryman, but as an objective third party, I'm not seeing it. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:03, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

You're doing good work Cbl62 but I've also found some of your edit summary comments to be a little accusatory in tone. Bristol Hotel was largely written after it was nommed for deletion. The way you are editing looks as if you're suspicious of something. Technically hotel articles should have information on amenities and one can mention the price of the most expensive room or something. I've authored articles such as Hotel Ritz Paris so generally I know what I'm talking about in regards to avoiding "wiki travel" like content. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:20, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

OK, don't worry about it. You're doing good stuff, in fact I was going to award you a barnstar for you recent efforts and may still do. Care to expand Europa Road?..♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:37, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

The brief on Bland Group in my opinion is important in putting it in context and realising who actually owns it...It would be different if it was any old company but I think it ties the hotel to the Rock's history and puts it in context..♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:20, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Appreciate the effort you're putting into editing Gibraltar articles. Look forward to see you building more content towards it too! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:03, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar Dr. Blofeld. It is most courteous of you to think of me. (Cb162)

Don't mention it mate! Thanks! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:15, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

A joke amigo!! Sarcasm. Thanks! I do know though that some editors are in the habit of not thanking other editors though, I was hoping you weren't one of them! In an environment such as wikipedia we need to be as positive to each other as possible. I co nommed you for Rock Hotel for DYK, if anybody prowls around it after your extensive edits I'll slap them personally LOL. Take care.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:42, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, soon to pass 900, 1000 will be something, might come Christmas time maybe.. That'll be something! Take care!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:51, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppet allegation regarding Gibraltarpedia

Please see Talk:Gibraltarpedia#Sockpuppet_allegations_in_revert_rationales and User_talk:NuclearWarfare#Another_Gibralterpedia-related_sockpuppet?. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 11:08, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Opa-Locka Thematic Resource Area

Hi. I appreciate your merging the Opa-Locka Co. article i had started into the Opa-Locka Thematic Resource Area article, and your developing the topic further. The merged, further-developed-by-you article is good. However, I don't think it is the right title, which is why I didn't myself develop at that article title. I'll open some discussion at Talk:Opa-Locka Thematic Resource Area; could you comment there? I'll invite Ebyabe too. --doncram 21:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Cbl62. You have new messages at Template:Did you know nominations/Broad Avenue.
Message added 12:04, 6 October 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I appreciate the review... don't know what got into me. Theopolisme 12:04, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

+ Theopolisme 00:37, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Punta Gorda Fish Co.

Hello! Your submission of Punta Gorda Fish Co. at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Albacore (talk) 18:48, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

GA Main Page slot proposal

Based on your post, I believe you misunderstood Talk:Main_Page#GA_Main_Page_slot_proposal. This one is not about merging DYK with GA. This proposal is to prevent the merging of DYK with GA. Please read again. I think you didn't mean to oppose this one.  —  Maile66 (talk) 00:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

GA Thanks

On behalf of the Michigan Nation, I want to thank you for helping the editorial efforts that resulted in the recent WP:GA promotion of 2011 Michigan Wolverines football team

This user helped promote 2011 Michigan Wolverines football team to good article status.

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:33, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Henry W. Cleaveland

Yngvadottir (talk) 00:02, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Punta Gorda Fish Co.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Thompson-Starrett Co.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:01, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Louden Machinery Company

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Pic accompanying DYK on main page

Thank you for your kind words.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 16:58, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

The DYK is really interesting and looks great on the main page right now, as leading DYK with great pic for the front page. Thanks for sharing the credit; i am glad you enjoyed the topic. --doncram 21:28, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

What's is going on with this?

It seems odd to have to tell a vet like you that when you add a name to a template like {{1947 Michigan Wolverines football navbox}}, you should add the template to the page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:38, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph C. Wells

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Ways to improve Charles Punchard, Jr.

Hi, I'm Biciklista10. Cbl62, thanks for creating Charles Punchard, Jr.!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Consider linking to this page from others

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. —Preceding undated comment added 02:36, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Champion Bridge Co.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of List of family relations in American football for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of family relations in American football is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of family relations in American football (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. --Bejnar (talk) 19:13, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK nom Opa-Locka

I have listed some issues to fix at Template:Did you know nominations/Opa-Locka Thematic Resource Area. Cheers! Binksternet (talk) 23:49, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

email

ok, got ur note at my Talk page. i had indeed tried ur old account. email me then, pls., when convenient. you don't have "Email me" enabled under "Toolbox" at your Talk page. I do. --doncram 01:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for The Rock Hotel

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:04, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Opa-Locka Thematic Resource Area

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

If you're still perhaps interested in the college football players...

I've located a couple good sources for James Bond (American football) - possibly this could go through DYK for April Fools'? I'm a bit busy and all (and lazy, that doesn't help), but would you like to maybe take this up sometime? The articles I was able to find may allow for some decent content, IMO. – Connormah (talk) 03:53, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! Any idea how to go about nomming it? Can we do it in advance? – Connormah (talk) 23:12, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for John Wosky

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Florida Gators football: "State Championships"

Your objective, third-party opinion is hereby requested: Talk:Florida Gators football#"State Championships". Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 05:11, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Harold Drew

Thanks for the expansion Cbl62, and anytime you want to work your magic on Bama players/coaches articles is always welcome! It is especially appreciated as I have recently finished the initial expansion for all of the Alabama season articles (1947–1954) for the Drew years with the Tide. I will look more at it this weekend and see what else might be out there to possibly get a DYK out of this. Roll Tide! Patriarca12 (talk) 14:34, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Michigan List update

You keep overlooking Roy Roundtree. Also when you remove the only instance of a person on the list, remove it from their see also section (Jay Riemersma). Finally, can you review Template:Did you know nominations/Glenn Robinson III‎.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:33, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

I updated Roundtree and removed Riemersma. If you can review Robinson tomorrow that would be great. Otherwise, I will ask someone else.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:48, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Since I see you are online, I will remind you that I need a review of Template:Did you know nominations/Glenn Robinson III‎ if I am going to get it on the main page during the championship on Friday.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:58, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Jason Vinson

As a major Michigan fan, I appreciate all the work you do on Wolverines football-related articles. However, the Vinson article is seriously messed up. I'm not really sure how to make heads-or-tails out of it and I'm sure you didn't intend to post the page like it was (one problem: it says that Vinson was born after his first career game). AutomaticStrikeout 22:46, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

The Bond article

I see you got a bunch of the other articles at DYK, good job on those. Do you know how to go about nomming the Bond article for April 1? Special occasion holding area? Wouldn't want it to be ineligible because of age so we should probably act quick. – Connormah (talk) 04:26, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Cool, thanks so much. – Connormah (talk) 05:07, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Also, if you're not too busy, any chance you can like Herman G. Steiner with the Herman G. Steiner on Ancestry's Massachusetts death index, died 1982? From what I have this Herman Steiner was born to Albert and Anna/Annie Steiner c. 1898 in Massachusetts. He married Carolyn Tapscott of Indianapolis but was divorced in 1940 and living with his parents at Massachusetts. Thanks. – Connormah (talk) 06:17, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Just saw that this morning. Amazing job as usual! I was actually corresponding with the Duke University Archives on Steiner, I think I'll send them a link to the article... – Connormah (talk) 23:16, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

William Allen (coach)

Cbl62, looks like William Allen (coach) was a Michigan guy, perhaps William Luedson Allen, reserve guard on the 1898 Michigan Wolverines football team. Thought he be might be someone you wanted to work on. Happy Thanksgiving and all the best, Jweiss11 (talk) 04:36, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Could be wrong, but it looked like William Lindsay Allen to me (he graduated a few years before coaching Washington, which is pretty common), but of course if I'm wrong, go ahead and have at 'er. – Connormah (talk) 14:49, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Awesome job as always, thanks so much for that, that really helps clear up the confusion! – Connormah (talk) 23:13, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Yep, great job once again, Cbl. Jweiss11 (talk)

DYK for Albert Berg

The DYK project (nominate) 00:01, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

If you're interested...

While doing some research to find out who W. C. Dowd was it turns out he was a prominent newspaper publisher and North Carolina politician back in his day (after playing on and captaining one the first Wake Forest football teams) - even serving as Speaker of the North Carolina House of Representatives in 1911. Surely there must be a bunch of sources on him out there (the Wake Forest one I cited briefly mentions his university activity, but a quick Google search brings up a lot more). I've done some US state politicians in the past but it seems unlikely that I'll do this now (then I'll forget), so if you'd like to take this up when you have the time, of course, feel free. – Connormah (talk) 06:25, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Cal Young

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for R. R. Brown

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Gorton, Summersgill

Cbl62, I found a couple more identity cases with early college football coaches:

• H. T. Collier (American football coach at Georgia Tech) and H. T. Collier (American football coach at Tulane)...same guy? That would mean he coached both Georgia Tech and Tulane in 1899. Perhaps, he was a traveling/consultant-type coach, a la Pop Warner?

• Frank Gorton coached football and basketball at Rutgers and VMI. The NCAA database has him coaching basketball at Otterbein in 1917–18. The Otterbein football media guide lists their coach in 1917 as "F. H. Goslon." Is this Frank Gorton?

Perhaps you have access to old newspaper articles that might clear this up? Thanks, oh, and nice work on all the Rutgers bios over the past few days. All the best, Jweiss11 (talk) 02:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I actually e-mailed some archives regarding Collier. Will see what I can get back. Probably is a match, though there's nothing concrete to prove it. – Connormah (talk) 02:52, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

(moved from above) Here's the other one above that could use come clearing up as well, thanks in advance. :Hi Cbl, one more thing if you don't mind - could former Hillsdale coach Nate Duffy be the same person as Ignatius M. Duffy, former Alma coach? The yearbook says Nate Duffy was from Michigan. – Connormah (talk) 00:18, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

if the two Colliers are the same, he would have coached 2 teams to winless records (and outscored 325 to 5 in all games). Quite anrecord if it's the same guy. Cbl62 (talk) 07:43, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Ga. Tech archives says their H.T. Collier was from Virginia and came in Oct. 1900. So they're probably a match, I think. They'll get back to me on sources. – Connormah (talk) 23:09, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

They say it's from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Not sure if you'll be able to find anything explicitly saying they're (the Colliers) related, but they probably are. – Connormah (talk) 01:38, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Dalton

I'm reviewing your Edward Dalton nomination and am not sure what the hook means. Please comment for a speedier review. :) Abyssal (talk) 16:17, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I've responded again at your Dalton DYK. Abyssal (talk) 15:17, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for William V. B. Van Dyck

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Southwest Conference Men's Basketball Players of the Year

I need to flesh out the article Southwest Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year because another editor thought it'd be cute to create a kitten, but I was wondering if you could assist me in determining some past winners. There is no one source that has a comprehensive last of yearly winners, so it's a piecemeal work in progress (much like the SWAC POY article).

If you check out {{Southwest Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year navbox}}, you'll see which years are missing. Is there any chance you could see what your sources say? I'm going to be pinging Connorman as well. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:53, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Harry Rockafeller

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

R. M. Brown

I have Ralph Manning "Gus" Brown's obituary from the Princeton Alumni Weekly , 1927. I also have an obit for John C. B. Pendleton - would you maybe like me to e-mail these to you? Shoot me an e-mail at cmahh[at]shaw.ca and I'll forward them along. – Connormah (talk) 21:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

This Google search I think links the Va Tech one to Gus Brown as well. I think it's a match, what do you think? – Connormah (talk) 21:58, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For your mini-rescue of Blackton, Arkansas, and numerous other related efforts to head off confrontations that have had the potential to become "dark situations". Thanks for your good work in support of collegiality! Orlady (talk) 18:37, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Orlo Epps

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for William L. Allen

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Vincent Mroz

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Stuart Forbes

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1943 Michigan Wolverines football team

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Harold Drew

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for William Goodyear

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Herman G. Steiner

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Edward A. Dalton

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Dennis Franks

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Score

I notice you've been changing scores on all the Michigan team pages to reflect the lower score first where Michigan lost. This was discussed previously at the College Football project, and the decision was made not to do it that way. Can you please self-revert all of your changes? Cbl62 (talk) 05:45, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

• That is wrong it has alway's been Your score then the other teams. Look at the curent team or any team and you will see that this is the way it is on most Michigan MDSanker 06:04, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Reviewed Fritz Seyferth for DYK

Initial review of Fritz Seyferth article for [[4]]. Cool article -- I'm both a Michigan and MSU alum. Needs a spelling & grammar clean-up. Suggested in the hook using "University of Michigan" instead of Michigan. Thanks! --> Prburley (talk) 19:38, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Doug Marsh

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1976 Michigan Wolverines football team

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:02, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Grambau

Thanks for your message. I have reassessed to B level. All the best,--FeanorStar7 19:19, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Guy Murdock

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for John C. B. Pendleton

1=HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:15, 16 December 2012 (UTC) 16:53, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Henry Van Hoevenberg

1=HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:15, 16 December 2012 (UTC) 16:53, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Alfred Ellet Hitchner

1=HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:15, 16 December 2012 (UTC) 16:54, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Arthur P. Robinson

1=HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:15, 16 December 2012 (UTC) 16:54, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Greg Morton

Materialscientist (talk) 02:57, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Cecil Pryor

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:24, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Jim Betts (American football)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 17:51, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pete Newell (American football)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:01, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Walt Downing

Orlady (talk) 12:02, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Fred Julian

Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Carl Russ

Gatoclass 12:03, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Mike Jolly

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