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=== German-English ===

You asked for an English translation of "uneinsichtig, unbelehrbar und beratungsresistent". Without consulting a dictionary, I translate those words as "uninsightful, unteachable, and resistant to advice", but there may be a more nuanced or idiomatic meaning that I am missing. The single English word that comes to mind to describe that set of characteristics is "pig-headed" (that is probably not an English word you know, but I think it is a word you will enjoy). I also think of the Wikipedia item [[WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT]].

Your English is much better than my Deutsch, so I am happy when I can help you expand your knowledge. I didn't respond on the page where you asked the question because I think it is a bad idea to continue the argument ("bickering") there. Also, I think it is best to avoid making accusations against people, because that often makes people angry, while failing to help them see the problem. (See [[Wikipedia:Avoid personal remarks]].) --[[User:Orlady|Orlady]] ([[User talk:Orlady|talk]]) 14:54, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

:I certainly enjoyed the new word and your sensible way of handling the case. I just asked words, didn't I? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 15:00, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
:*Yeah, but "pig-headed" has more negative connotations than "hard-headed" or "stubborn". I will not choose a term to apply to this situation, per one of the above cited policies. [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 16:20, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Learning, thank you! (Just approved your Aku hook), --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 16:24, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
:::*Alright, thanks! [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 00:11, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::"impervious" rings a bell: "impervious to pain, up to a certain point" ([[The Fountainhead]]), --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 22:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

::::Orlady, ''einsicht'' is indeed insight or understanding, but in this context ''uneinsichtig'' is nearer to "unreasonable". I suggest "unreasonable, incorrigible, and impervious to advice". ''Pig-headed'' is good. [[User:Moonraker|Moonraker]] ([[User talk:Moonraker|talk]]) 09:56, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for more insight, on top of your brilliant idiomatic [[#G. C. Lehms|translation of the 1715 text]] about the (equal) skills of females to study, see above, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 11:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)


=== almost forgot one thing ===
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:Thank you! My pleasure, for a change: „Keep on Knocking“, „Sad Song“, „Free“, „Drag on Forever“, „Just What I Needed“ - just what I needed, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 19:26, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you! My pleasure, for a change: „Keep on Knocking“, „Sad Song“, „Free“, „Drag on Forever“, „Just What I Needed“ - just what I needed, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 19:26, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

=== A barnstar for you! ===

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For believing in the goodness of people above all. For having faith and being willing to work on a cause that seemed hopeless. [[User:MathewTownsend|MathewTownsend]] ([[User talk:MathewTownsend|talk]]) 23:27, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
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:AMEN to that! Gerda is one of the kindest, most decent people I've ever met. In this case, wiki-met, not met in person, though I'd love to do that one day.[[User:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">Pumpkin</font><font color="darkblue">Sky</font>]] [[User talk:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">talk</font>]] 11:37, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you, yes, please, all of it! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 11:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
* — <small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>[[User:Ched Davis|Ched]]</b> : [[User_talk:Ched Davis|<font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;?&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 00:37, 16 April 2012 (UTC) {{like}}



=== The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence ===
=== The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence ===
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:::::You found #1, I blushed three more times, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 10:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::You found #1, I blushed three more times, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 10:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)


== nice edit notice ;) ==
=== First ever Wiki Angel Award ===

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* [[Mads Lange]]

A Halloween present from [[Wikipediocracy]] on my eighth anniversary. Best wishes. [[User:Mads Lange|Mads Lange]] ([[User talk:Mads Lange|talk]]) 09:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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:nice comment, peace maker - I pass free treats today, Reformation, even the [[Gott der Herr ist Sonn und Schild, BWV 79|Bach cantata]] got a pumpkin + [[#The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence|I like sharing]], --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
::[[User talk:Br'er Rabbit#Dona nobis pacem|peace]] GA ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 22:44, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

== "[[There Was an Old Woman Who Lived in a Shoe]]" ==

You mentioned this article on my talk page earlier. The reason I did a bit of work on it was partly because it was pretty poor, but more selfishly I wanted to start an article on the topic of [[concealed shoes]], and I didn't it want it to be immediately tagged as an orphan; I hate those tags. I've emailed Northampton Museum asking if someone from there could take a look at the article, and it would be good if you and/or your talk-page stalkers could have a quick look through as well, to see if there's anything that could do with a bit more explanation. I'm not asking for any kind kind of formal review, just a quick eyeball to see if there's anything obviously missing, or that doesn't make sense.

Cheers! (Yes, I've had a couple of glasses of wine, and perhaps you'll join me. I find it helps the creative juices to flow. ;-) ) [[User:George Ponderevo|George Ponderevo]] ([[User talk:George Ponderevo|talk]]) 19:31, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

:Thank you, will look but not soon, want to get Fauré's [[Requiem (Fauré)|Requiem]] to presentable until the composer appears as TFA on 4 November, translate a [[BWV 115|Bach cantata]] to German until Saturday and [[Der Handschuh (Waterhouse)|Der Handschuh]] asap, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 19:43, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

::Would you like me to take a look as well? [[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 19:56, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

:::Sure, all of them ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 19:58, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

::::OK, later. Have to warn you though that I'm not really a Wikipedian, have never been a Wikipedian, and I scare away women, children and new editors. Allegedly. But I'll try and be gentle. [[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 20:03, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

:::::matching my [[:Category:Wikipedians who are not part of The Community]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 20:13, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

== Brains Work Better Barnstar ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | You and I walk on the same side of the street. Thank you for all your efforts to befriend and assist your fellow Wikipedian Editors (WE). Bottom line: WE are all living breathing people that desire love. Your efforts have a cascading effect throughout WP. [[What's so bad about Peace, Love and Understanding?]] ```[[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 01:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you, <font color="Fuchsia">blushing</font> again. ([[#The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence|See above]], not afraid that you will leave within a week ;) Thanks to [[User talk:Elen of the Roads#A barnstar for you!|Elen]] for the colour.) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 13:43, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

== Happy New Year Gerda ==

Dear Gerda, I am too busy thinking about all sorts of silly things and forgot to send you a greeting for the New Year, if such things amuse you. At any rate I'm glad to see you are still here and have not been distracted by the Wikifollies (!) I saw [[The Hobbit (film)]] on IMAX 3-d the other day and thought it was awesome. Snow is settling on Ipswich tonight so it all looks very pretty by streetlight, if cold underfoot. I hope you have yet another brilliant year in WP and of course (far more important) a brilliant year in the [[Reality]] (whatever you construe that to be) which is The Great Outside... If there is such a thing as a ''Jahresentwicklung'' I hope that yours will be frohlich. - Season's greetings, (Steven) [[User:Eebahgum|Eebahgum]] ([[User talk:Eebahgum|talk]]) 23:49, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you, Steven, I appreciate your personal thoughts and wish you no less than the same! - I didn't send "individual" greetings but had [[User:Gerda Arendt/2012|Christmas music]] on my user, - a remnant is still there now like a motto: "ban complaining". It's not the same as "ban [[User talk:Uncontroversial Obscurity#Respect|mourning]]", - look above and for [[User talk:Malleus Fatuorum#Sing praises|sing praises]] ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 00:07, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

== Defender of the Integrity of Wikipedia ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Dear Gerda, it's always a struggle trying to defend the integrity of Wikipedia as a ''real'' encyclopedia, against the [[WP:COMMONNAME|COMMONNAME]] philistines who keep wanting to dumb it down instead of redirecting to correct article titles. I'm awed by your efforts. [[User:Milkunderwood|Milkunderwood]] ([[User talk:Milkunderwood|talk]]) 22:39, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
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== Legend ==

I like your <nowiki>[[File:Scuttled ships.jpg]]</nowiki> legend.<br />All the best!&nbsp;&ndash;&#32;<br />&nbsp;&ndash;&#32;<strong>[[User:Gareth Griffith-Jones|Gareth Griffith-Jones]]</strong> &#124;<small>[[User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones|The Welsh Buzzard]]</small>&#124; 14:20, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks should go to Wehwalt, who took the photo - thinking of [[User talk:Br'er Rabbit|a legend]] - and coined the phrase on [[User:Wehwalt|his user]], - perhaps I should credit him but thought the pic would tell those whose "inquiring mind wants to know", --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 14:25, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
::Ha, ha! Excellent!&nbsp;&ndash;&#32;<br />&nbsp;&ndash;&#32;<strong>[[User:Gareth Griffith-Jones|Gareth Griffith-Jones]]</strong> &#124;<small>[[User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones|The Welsh Buzzard]]</small>&#124; 14:38, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:::... and this is my real name ... never could understand the reason for a ''nom de plume'' ... but then it would be absurd to imagine that it is not my name&nbsp;&ndash;&#32;<br />&nbsp;&ndash;&#32;<strong>[[User:Gareth Griffith-Jones|Gareth Griffith-Jones]]</strong> &#124;<small>[[User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones|The Welsh Buzzard]]</small>&#124; 21:34, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

== [[Andreas Scholl]] ==

I've finished with the lead now Gerda, hope you think it does the subject justice. Ironically, now that the lead's been expanded, I much prefer the uncollapsed infobox (I might even prefer no infobox at all in this case, but that's a separate story). The length of the infobox vs. the length of the lead is a factor that seems to have been largely ignored in all of the recent "discussions". [[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 04:59, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you! (This is without looking yet, I trust your quality.) - Did you see that I took the picture (not the lead, the other)? Same day as the one of [[Christophoruskirche, Schierstein|another church]] where he appeared and you liked. I will not touch the infobox until the "collapse discussion is over", see talk. - There should be more in it, will look into that later, see talk. - A good infobox should draw the interest of someone who just came to find one fact into reading the article. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 07:17, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
::I only looked at the lead Gerda. May I ask you a personal question? Is Gerda Arendt your real name? If you're suspicious about why I'm asking you then just email me and I'll explain, nothing sinister I promise. [[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 07:33, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
:::If I was a suspicious person I would not write under my real name ;) - if you have time, go over the rest, - if you look at the history, you will see that it was started by a devotee, ready to mention every note he sang, I dropped a lot of that but a bit more of one style would be great. You won't believe how many people crowded our concert just to hear him. He said he would come again (about the highest praise a church choir can receive) but has no time for the next one, [[David Erler]] will sing alto then, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 07:39, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
::::The reason I asked was because I'm thinking of adding my real name to my user page. I feel foolish editing under a pseudonym like "Malleus Fatuorum", and if my real name isn't already bagged I may request a change. Either way, I think a little more openness might go a long way. [[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 07:47, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::Good idea! - Good luck! (You will need it, because as far as I know Andy Mabbett tried the same, but was not permitted to change, that's how his signature got so long.) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 07:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
::::::I'll see if my real name is available. Back on the subject of Scholls though, I've heard some old recordings of castrati. Can he really reach those high notes with his balls still in place? [[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 07:58, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::::There were soprano castrati and alto. He can singer everything alto, your recordings may be soprano. There are males who can those also. - His wonderful event for the [[Rheingau Musik Festival]] - 3 concerts in 3 churches in one day will be repeated this year (different programs and one church different)! - That festival could also use a better lead ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:10, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::::ps:for name changes, ask [[User talk:28bytes|28bytes]], --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:12, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
::::::::What do you think about the [[castrato]] article? [[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 08:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::no time, need to talk to ArbCom and go to church ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:31, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

== Your friend ==

I'm sorry to hear of your loss. I hope you can find comfort in happy memories. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 09:01, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you. - The funeral was yesterday, dear friends flew in from the US and are with us, - most important. There's always time for data, but not people, thanks for understanding that! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:11, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
:ps: he participated in writing [http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF03038880?LI=true#page-1 this], but died gently from a stroke. If I wrote an article (but I know to little about his scientific accomplishments) it would be the forth for a friend who died, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:17, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to hear about this Gerda, who was it?♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. ☠ Blofeld</span>]] 12:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thought you deserve at least this much for all the help and support you gave me, right from my very first moment, oh and by the way I'm Back in action!!! Thanks once again for all Everything! [[User:The Wikimon|The Wikimon]] ([[User talk:The Wikimon|talk]]) 13:25, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you, feels good! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 13:57, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

:You don't seem too pleased to see me back... Anyways, Wikipedia servers must be working over time. I'm am unable to keep a page open for even a minute before reloading it. Nothing is opening quickly, links are slow and its pissing me off. Are you suffering from the same problem??? Its a real fist clenching anger!!! [[User:The Wikimon|The Wikimon]] ([[User talk:The Wikimon|talk]]) 14:16, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

::Sorry to disappoint you. Look at my talk: I rarely use an exclamation mark, you got one! Read further, I miss friends, dead or gone, I have arguments with people I respect ... - No, loading is normal, normally slow, that is. - I get ready for Good Friday, and hope for Easter (we celebrate Monday also), --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 14:34, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | This is for your continuing work on the Bach Cantatas, in particular [[Jesus nahm zu sich die Zwölfe, BWV 22]] which I just chose as this month's Christian art in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Christianity/Outreach/April_2013|Icthus]] <span style="">[[User:Gilderien|Gilderien]] <span style="font-size:70%; vertical-align:sub;">[[User talk:Gilderien|Chat]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Gilderien|List of good deeds]]</span></span> 01:25, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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I feel honoured, and encouraged to tackle the St Matthew Passion and the Mass in B minor as long term goals, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 07:43, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

== Easter music ==

Great choices! :) We did the Palestrina Sicut cervus too, and [[K. 194]], and... a bunch of Anglican stuff that I don't remember :P ~ [[User talk:Riana|Riana <font color="green">⁂</font>]] 06:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
:I am so grateful to my conductors! [[Chor von St. Bonifatius|We]] (my first infobox!) will sing the [[Sparrow Mass]] in less than two hours in rehearsal (the only one with [[Hessisches Staatsorchester|the orchestra]]), one hour later in the service. The others were last night, + smaller works. Happy Easter, to everyone reading this! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 06:21, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
[[File:Colorful spring garden.jpg|thumb|right|100px|Happy Easter]]
::"Kommt, eilet und laufet". Frohe Ostern, Gerda. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 08:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
:::thanks for coming! (to [[BWV 249|another article]] with an infobox) - to you, too!

== infoboxes for classical music composers ==

Καλό Πάσχα, Gerda! <br />
I do think articles for composers and their works should have [[WP:INFOBOX|infoboxes]]. That said, I am saddened by what is going on [[Wikipedia:ANI#Bullying_and_ownership_concerns_at_Talk:Johann_Sebastian_Bach_and_Sparrow_Mass_over_the_use_of_infoboxes|here]]. Listening to Glenn Gould's 1981 recording of the Goldberg Variations right now, and wishing the whole mess hadn't happened. Ma è la via del mondo.
Pete aka --[[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 09:06, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
:I was told it went on since 2005, - at least it was [[User talk:Voceditenore#L'arpa?|told well]]: Did you know that '''''[[:File:Infobox burning.jpg|L'infobox infernale]]''''' (The Hellish Infobox), an [[opera semiseria]] in 25 acts, is the longest running opera ever staged on Wikipedia? - A look at the proposed {{tl|Infobox opera}}, especially its sample, is a good way to cheer up! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 10:10, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
::The infobox saga seems more like a [[soap opera]] some days! LOL! ;-) [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 16:44, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

==Thank you==
If everyone followed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=548629929 your example] this would be a much finer community, and we wouldn't have the problem with editor retention we do. But anyway -- just wanted to say thanks. Please continue! [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:20, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you, blushing again ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 14:48, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Hi Gerda. Thanks for the kind thoughts. Over the past few days, I've been finding out that, like many things, editing Wikipedia requires constant practice. We (ok, mostly you) created a lot of composer articles for the Munich Biennale, and now I have to work hard to remember everything that needs done. Let's see how I get on with creating [[Nikolay Strelnikov]] ... [[User:Scarabocchio|Scarabocchio]] ([[User talk:Scarabocchio|talk]]) 22:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:Excellent! Content, content, content - don't like ANI, - [[Der Himmel lacht! Die Erde jubilieret, BWV 31|der Himmel lacht]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:32, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Just got the shirt through the [[Wikipedia:Merchandise giveaways/Nominations|Merchandise Giveaway Programme]]. Thanks for your vote of confidence! &nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 12:39, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
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Becoming! (Much better than "[[User talk:Uncontroversial Obscurity#Mourning becomes ...|Mourning becomes ...]]") --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 12:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

== First ever Wiki Angel Award ==


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::Thank you!!! (blushing again, see above) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 18:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
::Thank you!!! (blushing again, see above) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 18:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


=== ... I'd make a Wikilove thingy ... ===
== Words are not enough ==

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|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Angel statue.jpg|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''Angel of sweet kindness'''
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Your support while I was having a rough time and then your warm welcome back upon my return are indescribably heartwarming and most welcome...thank you! [[User:Dreadstar|Dreadstar]] <small>[[User talk:Dreadstar|<span class="Unicode">☥</span>]]</small> 15:51, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
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I hope you realise that I was selfish: I wanted you to stay! I see too many who give up or find better things to do. Feel free to join my [[:Category:Wikipedians who take the liberty to stay|red cat]], --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 20:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

== Sir Adrian ==

Gerda, what a pleasing note from you on my talk page! You are too kind, but I walk a little taller for that beautifully-phrased compliment. [[User:Tim riley|Tim riley]] ([[User talk:Tim riley|talk]]) 19:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

== Barnstar ==

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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Huge Heart Barnstar.'''
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For all the kindness that you show to your fellow editors, [[User:Keilana]] has said that you, ''' Gerda''', deserve this award.
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Thank you so much, also for taking care of all those women scientists! How many hits did your "organ"-related DYK get? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 06:49, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
ps: checked myself, 15,299, congrats! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 06:51, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Thoroughly deserved!!♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. ☠ Blofeld</span>]] 12:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

== You are a Golden Editor! ==

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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''Good as gold!'''
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For all the times you have brightened someone's day by declaring them 'Precious', you are a ''[[User:AutomaticStrikeout/Golden Editor|Golden Editor]]''. [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|Automatic''Strikeout'']] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|'''T''']] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|C]] • [[WP:AAPT|Sign AAPT]])</small> 02:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you, precious! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

== Opera days ==

Dear Gerda,
If you haven't used it yet you might get a reference to ''[[May Night]]'' by R. Korsakov in about now!! Not that we are having any May nights, they feel more like February mornings. I have a fine old recording of this opera with [[Sergei Lemeshev]], great stylist that he was. About 1950. Nothing like a drowned fairy or two to cheer up an opera. [[User:Eebahgum|Eebahgum]] ([[User talk:Eebahgum|talk]]) 20:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
:Good idea ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 21:00, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
:Done! - Feel free to help me, finding them and inserting yourself, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 05:47, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
::I fear I am too lazy to engage with that aspect of wikipedia. [[User:Eebahgum|Eebahgum]] ([[User talk:Eebahgum|talk]]) 22:20, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
:::For me, that's the sweet part of the day, no conflict, no fear, free choice ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 06:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

== Sorrow ==

I noticed your appreciation of ''Sorrow''. The article was written as part of this collaboration: [[Wikipedia:GLAM/NAGW]]. We're also using [[QRpedia]], so translation of articles into German (or other languages) would be most welcome! <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 09:21, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
:I have it in the back of my mind, same for [[Archaeology of Kosovo]], - once I need less time for straightening out the Bach composition infoboxes and once I got my [[Mass in B minor structure|promised article]] closer to where I want it to be, I will think of it again ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:29, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

== Infobox with collapsible sections ==

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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Content Creativity Barnstar'''
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Thank you for being such a strong content editor [[Also hat Gott die Welt geliebt, BWV 68| -]]. Don't let the infobox wars and bad faith editors get to you. Your the type of editor we need more of here - :-) [[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 03:16, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you, don't be afraid, I created my red cat after learning to despise "consensus", so am here to stay, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 07:10, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

== There is a mop reserved in your name ==
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<td style="vertical-align:middle; padding:1px; text-align:center">'''You are a remarkably exemplar editor.'''<br />You would be a good administrator in my opinion, and you are qualified!<br />You personify an [[WP:ADMAN|'''''Administrator without tools''''']], and have gained my support; already!</td></tr>
</table>[[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat|talk]]) 22:38, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you for the expression of trust! You are not the first to suggest that, [[User talk:Gerda Arendt/Archive 2013#Adminship|the answer still applies]]. Also you must have missed [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical music#Infobox for Richard Wagner?|how disruptive I am]] ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 22:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
::Fair enough. I am livid at the tone of that Wagner discussion; clearly I should avoid injecting my thoughts there; if I am able. [[User:My76Strat|My76Strat]] ([[User talk:My76Strat|talk]]) 23:18, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

== MIA ==

I had no idea such a page even existed! And strange that it said vanished without notice, I had a big banner saying I was moving, had no internet, and then had little to sporadic internet, etc. Anyway, I'm happily off that list. :) Sadly, I see many names that make me wish were not on the list. :( Oh good grief, someone point me to how to make smiley faces, lol. <small>[[user:ArielGold|<font color="8B00FF">'''Ariel'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/ArielGold|<font color="F64A8A">♥</font>]][[User_talk:ArielGold|<font color="007FFF">'''Gold'''</font>]]</small> 03:00, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
:You are most welcome here! - In the [[Wikipedia:QAI/missed users|sad list]], others missed you. - I hear you are kind of an angel! But that it was said to me also puts it in perspective ;) - We sing "Come Holy Ghost" today, see my user, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 05:21, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

== Main Page appearance: Franz Kafka ==

This is a note to let the main editors of [[Franz Kafka]] know that the article will be appearing as [[Wikipedia:Today's featured article|today's featured article]] on July 3, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director {{user|Raul654}} or one of his delegates ({{user|Dabomb87}}, {{user|Gimmetoo}}, and {{user|Bencherlite}}), or start a discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests]]. You can view the TFA blurb at [[Wikipedia:Today's featured article/July 3, 2013]]. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at [[Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions]]. The blurb as it stands now is below:

<blockquote>
<div style="float: left; margin: 0.5em 0.9em 0.4em 0;">[[File:Kafka portrait.jpg|100px|Franz Kafka in 1906]]</div>
'''[[Franz Kafka]]''' (1883–1924) was a German-language writer of novels and short stories, and is regarded as one of the most influential [[20th century in literature|authors of the 20th&nbsp;century]]. His works, such as "{{lang|de|[[The Metamorphosis|Die Verwandlung]]}}" ("The Metamorphosis"), ''{{lang|de|[[The Trial|Der Process]]}}'' (''The Trial''), and ''{{lang|de|[[The Castle (novel)|Das Schloss]]}}'' (''The Castle''), are filled with themes and archetypes of alienation, brutality, parent–child conflict, and mystical transformations. Kafka was born into a middle-class Jewish family in [[Prague]], then part of the [[Austria-Hungary|Austro-Hungarian Empire]]. He trained as a lawyer and worked for an insurance company, writing in his spare time&nbsp;– he complained all his life about his lack of time to write. Kafka wrote hundreds of letters to family and close female friends, including his fiancée [[Felice Bauer]]. Only a few of Kafka's stories appeared during his lifetime in story collections and literary magazines. His novels and other unfinished works were published posthumously, mostly by his friend [[Max Brod]], who ignored his wish to have the manuscripts destroyed. [[Albert Camus]] and [[Jean-Paul Sartre]] are among the writers influenced by Kafka's work; the term ''Kafkaesque'' has entered the English language to describe surreal situations like those in his writing. {{TFAFULL|Franz Kafka}}
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[[User:UcuchaBot|UcuchaBot]] ([[User talk:UcuchaBot|talk]]) 23:01, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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== Some baklava for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I'm not by there very often, but today I saw the recent kerfluffle at AN/I and thought you could use some sweets. Lest you think this is all selfless, though, I brought a second fork. Care to split it? -- [[User:Khazar2|Khazar2]] ([[User talk:Khazar2|talk]]) 02:33, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you, sweet of you, - I would share with [[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy]] first if his doctors allow. Day by day I hope the thread autoarchives (havn't looked today), - I am sure his doctors allow no stress ;) . Did you see the list of 18 discussions "drowning" a project? - Everybody who takes an unbiased look is welcome to share the baklava! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 10:58, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

== The If I had the time I'd make a Wikilove thingy ... ==


... with a pretty picture, but I'm lazy so instead you'll have to settle for text" Barnstar
... with a pretty picture, but I'm lazy so instead you'll have to settle for text" Barnstar
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:I enjoy refreshing apparitions, also I am in a good mood, after singing [[Mass in B minor structure|Bach]] for more than two hours, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 21:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
:I enjoy refreshing apparitions, also I am in a good mood, after singing [[Mass in B minor structure|Bach]] for more than two hours, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 21:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC)


== Precious ==
== nice edit notice ;) ==


* http://wikipediocracy.com/
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Congratulations on the [[Franz Kafka]] TFA!! ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. ☠ Blofeld</span>]] 09:41, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you! Beautiful! Do you also give one to [[User:PumpkinSky|PumpkinSky]]? He also reached 100 DYK today with a triple, - you of all people would be the one to give him that award (I did 25) ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:49, 3 July 2013 (UTC)


* [[Mads Lange]]
== [[Franz Kafka]] all time top TFA!!! ==
:[http://stats.grok.se/en/201307/Franz_Kafka] 768,586 hits
:[[Wikipedia:Today's featured article/Most viewed]]
:[[WP:TOP25]]
::YEE HAW, CONGRATS GERDA [[User:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">Pumpkin</font><font color="darkblue">Sky</font>]] [[User talk:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">talk</font>]] 01:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Wow! That is amazing![[User talk:Maunus|User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw·]] 02:40, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
::::Gerda, Guten Morgen, input [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AFranz_Kafka&diff=562777456&oldid=562755205 here please] [[User:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">Pumpkin</font><font color="darkblue">Sky</font>]] [[User talk:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">talk</font>]] 02:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::Der Morgen ist gut! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:21, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::ps: [[Franz Kafka works]] made the DYKstats, my first --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:34, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
::::::DOUBLE CONGRATS! [[User:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">Pumpkin</font><font color="darkblue">Sky</font>]] [[User talk:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">talk</font>]] 10:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
::Wow that's impressive! I wonder why it had more hits than any though!!♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. ☠ Blofeld</span>]] 11:01, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
:::didn't you use google yesterday? link to press on top of my user ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 11:02, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
::I use Firefox which has a search bar in the top right corner and have google books built into my wiki itinery and other websites like youtube and ebay I regularly are in the url bar section so no, I rarely see the home search page of google.♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. ☠ Blofeld</span>]] 11:12, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Unlike this Main page, the "doodle" appears on the top left of every (!) search, - read that article, it has a good image, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 11:14, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
::Congratulations to you both for this impressive result. I still say that this is one of the best FA's on the encyclopaedia. -- '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<font face="Papyrus">Cassianto</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<font face="Papyrus">Talk</font>]]</sup></span>''' 11:17, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
:::thank you, that means a lot from you, writer of excellent ones, - plus you saying this about one with an infobox ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 11:22, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
::::I know! I had to go and have a lie down after saying that ;) Not even an infobox could ruin this one for me. -- '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<font face="Papyrus">Cassianto</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<font face="Papyrus">Talk</font>]]</sup></span>''' 00:34, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::Thank you Casasianto. We really appreciate that. I also think [[Yogo sapphire]] is quite good. [[User:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">Pumpkin</font><font color="darkblue">Sky</font>]] [[User talk:PumpkinSky|<font color="darkorange">talk</font>]] 11:28, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
::::::It is. This article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cassianto/Archive_1#Precious brings back fond memories] for me. -- '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<font face="Papyrus">Cassianto</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<font face="Papyrus">Talk</font>]]</sup></span>''' 00:34, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::"Logic may indeed be unshakeable, but it cannot withstand a woman who is determined to live. Where was the judge she had never seen? Where was the High Court she had never reached? She raised her hands and spread out all her fingers. But the [[Google Search|hands of one of the men]] closed round her throat, just as the other drove the knife deep into her heart and turned it twice." Only kidding... congrats "Gerda K". [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 11:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::::"determined", yes (remember my red cat?) ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 11:41, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


*{{like}} Hugs! [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 17:44, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
A Halloween present from [[Wikipediocracy]] on my eighth anniversary. Best wishes. [[User:Mads Lange|Mads Lange]] ([[User talk:Mads Lange|talk]]) 09:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
*What, almost a million hits... How does that feel, Gerda? [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 03:00, 18 July 2013 (UTC)


<div style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; background-color: #ddd; border: 5px solid #ddd; {{box-shadow|0.1em|0.1em|0.5em|rgba(0,0,0,0.75)}} {{border-radius|0.5em}}">[[File:Popcorn02.jpg|220px|free popcorn]]<p style="text-align: center; margin-bottom: 0;">''[[User talk:Br'er Rabbit|'tis the season]]''</p></div>
*Wow...*salute* [[User:Double sharp|Double sharp]] ([[User talk:Double sharp|talk]]) 15:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
:nice comment, peace maker - I pass free treats today, Reformation, even the [[Gott der Herr ist Sonn und Schild, BWV 79|Bach cantata]] got a pumpkin + [[#The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence|I like sharing]], --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

::[[User talk:Br'er Rabbit#Dona nobis pacem|peace]] GA ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 22:44, 7 October 2013 (UTC)== Some baklava for you! ==
== Barnstar for you ==

{| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"
|rowspan="2" valign="middle" | {{#ifeq:{{{2}}}|alt|[[File:Kindness Barnstar Hires.png|100px]]|[[File:Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png|100px]]}}
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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar'''
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | for being such a great encourager! [[User:Bermicourt|Bermicourt]] ([[User talk:Bermicourt|talk]]) 17:07, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you, very kind, feels good, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 17:52, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== DYK count ==

Don't worry about it, it isn't important. Read my notice at [[User:Dr. Blofeld/DYK]]. Whoever is worth anything on here knows what I put into articles. Above all I've always wanted to put out the message that content is more important than anything. I'll continue to update my personal list, and I thankyou for helping me update it at one stage, but I'll just list the articles not the hooks.♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. ☠ Blofeld</span>]] 07:30, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
:"You" are a sourced key fact of Wikipedia, why not show it? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

[[Friedrich Meyer-Oertel]].[[User:Tibetan Prayer|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Tibetan Prayer</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tibetan Prayer| <font size="-4"><font color="#C5B358">''᧾''</font></font color> ]]</sup> 17:42, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

:I like "prayer" in your name, you grant almost before asked. If you look at [[Carl Moritz (architect)]], started by some Dr. you may know, there are some stubs the same created, theatres and a publication. I humbly ask for moar ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 17:47, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

[[Staatstheater Mainz]]. [[User:Tibetan Prayer|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Tibetan Prayer</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tibetan Prayer| <font size="-4"><font color="#C5B358">''᧾''</font></font color> ]]</sup> 21:52, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

== Well gee... ==

Never thought I'd be 'missed'. I didn't leave, per say, I just stopped making edits and removed most non-articles from my watch list. Just got sick of all the really stupid things that went on everywhere, (which I granted contributed too, especially my previous last edit), especially certain editors who seem to get away with ruining perfectly good articles because they have an adminbit or just happen to edit a lot, and decided not to bother any more...even to revert obvious vandalism. [[User:Melodia|♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫]] ([[User talk:Melodia|talk]]) 22:52, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
:Good to here your voice! You are missed ;) - You could join my red cat (see bottom of my user), to make more music together, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 23:00, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

== German question ==

Hi Gerda, someone has been spamming [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Apollo_10&oldid=567825826#Widerlegung_von_Apollo_11_anhand_der_Treibstoffbilanz_f.C3.BCr_die_Flugflugbahn this message] all over the place. Does it make any sense or is it just general nonsense/trolling? [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten|talk]]) 19:45, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:As far as I can understand his German it is that apparently the German Wikipedia has got it wrong somehow. So even if it is not total rubbish it is an S.E.P. and can be safely deleted from the talkpages in question. If the trouble continues I recommend contacting {{Ping|DerHexer}} as he might be aware of a previous trackrecord at that IP range at deWiki. [[User:Agathoclea|Agathoclea]] ([[User talk:Agathoclea|talk]]) 20:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks for the info. Asking DerHexer sounds like a good idea. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten|talk]]) 20:41, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:::It says that Apollo 11 can't have happened due to calculations. No source, OR, I would say, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 21:19, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
::::Certainly a [[:de:Diskussion:Verschwörungstheorien_zur_Mondlandung/Archiv/2008#Apollo_11_kann_niemals_stattgefunden_haben.21|longterm issue]] which is not limited to de & en accourding to [http://www.mysnip.de/forum-archiv/thema-6903-1146019/Siegfried+Marquardt+from+Koenigs+Wusterhausen+is+back.html this] [[User:Agathoclea|Agathoclea]] ([[User talk:Agathoclea|talk]]) 21:56, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::But not as old as the Infobox wars (2005, according to reliable sources) ;) - Did you see "[[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Workshop#The Ban on Love|The Ban on Love]]? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 22:07, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::A ban on love seems a likely outcome of the Arbcom case... but if this guy has been going on about Apollo 11 since 2008 it looks like I might have to semi protect for longer. Thanks everyone! [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten|talk]]) 23:09, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Ban on love or Götterdämmerung, Wagner has good titles for such things. You know how to tell that the [[User talk:Voceditenore#End of civilization, etc.|end of civilization]] is near? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 10:44, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::::"It's [[Civilization (Star Trek: Enterprise)|a box]], Jim, but not as we know it". [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 11:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::Or as a [[Anna Russell|great artist]] commented the end of Götterdämmerung: "Weialeialaleialalei. (sung) You're exactly where you started, 20 hours ago!" (or 25 acts, or 8 years). "I'm not making this up, you know!" (This phrase also became the title of her autobiography, published in 1985.) - An infobox is as redundant as a book cover. Paraphrasing "Siegfried, tired of love on the rocks with Brunhilda ..." - I am a bit tired of saying such simple things again and again ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 11:19, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::lol, yes, know what you mean.... [[Love on the Rocks (Neil Diamond song)|..love on the rocks with Brunhilda]] - that's [[Neil Diamond|"precious"]]! [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 11:26, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::It's also part of that delightful half hour, a must! Another "Mr. and Mrs. Wotan have an argument." --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 11:29, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::"One bold edit for a Wikipedian, one great improvement for Wikipedia-kind". <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 15:15, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

== Thank you from Thryduulf ==

It is always nice to be appreciated, and being called "awesome" is a good thing to wake up to :) [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 07:54, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
:I remember the feeling, August 2010 ;) - I recently saw several of your comments and thoughts that I liked! Do you have words [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Siegfried_%28opera%29&diff=568213926&oldid=567500205 for this]? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:01, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
::I do, but in the interests of civility I shall not be sharing most of them. "Unhelpful" and "obstructionist" are two that are printable, but I'll not be sharing them there at the moment as I do not wish to get involved in any debates about infoboxes until at least the arbitration case concludes. You may wish to ask for an explanation of those points though so that you can rebut them factually. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 08:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Thank you for a new term: "obstructionist"! I collect words, did you know? Not a native speaker of English, I have [[#German-English|some above]], --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:36, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

== Team ==

[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]] Gerda, you have [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Classical_music#Peter_Warlock|accused me]] of [[WP:TEAM|tag-teaming]] which I regard as a serious and unwarranted attack on my integrity as an editor. I had thought that you understood my principles better than this; do not confuse my behaviour with that of others who disagree with me. I express my own opinions; if others agree with me that is of course gratifying, but I have not , in any way, incited them to support me. Indeed my messages to WP Classical music and WP Composers were strictly neutral and informative. I have never involved myself in tag-teaming, and as it happens I have never previously had any contact with [[User:Alfietucker]] or (as far as I know) with the anonymous editor (whoever he or she is). I should be grateful for an apology.--[[User:Smerus|Smerus]] ([[User talk:Smerus|talk]]) 13:18, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
: I haven't accused you. I said it "looks like" a team (not even mentioning "tag"). You will notice the difference. I apologize for not making this clear enough. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 13:32, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
:: Gerda, to say that 'it looks like' implies in English that you think 'it is'. I would appreciate it if you would clearly post on the page where you made this accusation that you accept that ths was not the case.--[[User:Smerus|Smerus]] ([[User talk:Smerus|talk]]) 14:12, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
:::I did not make an accusation but will clarify, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 14:15, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

::::Smerus, haven't you read "don't template the regulars?" This is an example of your attempts at intimidation and failure of AGF toward Gerda. I am going to mention this at Arbcom in a moment. .. done. [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 22:53, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::Sorry, [[User:Smerus|Smerus]], I slept. I didn't report to Arbcom a single diff against (!) anybody, intentionally so. Looking at the PD, that was a mistake, and if there will be victim I will feel guilty. - Thank you for your support of my infobox for the Eighth. Should we call it a different name, for example "summary concept", to make it palatable, as a tool, not a weapon? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 05:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::: Thank you, Gerda! @[[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]] - terribly sorry, my old friend, I was only copying what Andy Mabbett did to me - (see my talk page) - I had been told by others that he was experienced in this sort of thing, but I guess I have learned better!--[[User:Smerus|Smerus]] ([[User talk:Smerus|talk]]) 06:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Well Smerus, two things, one is that he apparently did use a template and it was about a WP:Legal concern, so of a different nature than your simply expressing a difference of opinion. Second, if we argue (which I don't, but for the sake of this discussion) that Andy was in error, since when do two wrongs make a right? Your response to the two things posted on your page (your single word answer, "bollocks") says much for your attitude, which I think would benefit from an adjustment in the direction of a more collaborative outlook with more assumption of good faith and fewer personal attacks. JMO... [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 17:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::::: Dearest Montana, do grow up. And take a look at wht the arbs had to say about the ludicrous 'legal' complaint made against me by Rexss when he followed his leader. And if you want to whinge about me, do it on my page, not on Gerda's. If Gerda wants to report me for intimidation or anything else, she doesn't need your protection or advice.--[[User:Smerus|Smerus]] ([[User talk:Smerus|talk]]) 18:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::"Grow up"? From the person who responded to an Arbcom notice with "bollocks"? Really. Look in the mirror, my dear friend. Sheesh. But if you are forming a truce with Gerda, then more power to you and I will be glad if that happens. [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 23:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::::: Dear Gerda, I think your suggestion for Sib 8th was a nice one. But it's neither an infobox nor a 'tool' in my opinion, rather simply a good way of using a photo at the head of an article with some interesting text. I see that Brian would prefer without - so be it. For myslef (who also loves the 1939 image), I could envisage a series of such relatively simple pix at the head of each symphony, each with a pic of the composer at that era and with a shortish text giving some of the background. I will try to think of a series of articles where this might be appropriate and not stir up any aggro. Best, --[[User:Smerus|Smerus]] ([[User talk:Smerus|talk]]) 18:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::Smerus, you just made my day, did you know? - As for "reporting", I am determined not to, see above. But it troubles me that the Rite of Arb seems to require a victim. - I have a true story for you: Friends came with their seven-year-old daughter, sorry that this girl didn't eat vegetables. She got corn-on-the-cob and liked it, - nobody had labelled it "vegetable". - Btw: Andy has an article on the Main page, see above, the first British victim of World War I, shot before the UK entered the war. I didn't know. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 18:49, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::OK,as Brian seems to have accepted the pic for Sibelius 8, take a look at [[Symphony No. 1 (Sibelius)]] where I have added a similarly 'informative' pic - mind you, the article is terrible and needs revamping.--[[User:Smerus|Smerus]] ([[User talk:Smerus|talk]]) 13:54, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::::And now Symphs 2 and 5 as well. The Symph 2 article is also useless and needs a revamp. Symph 5 rather better, but also needs work.--[[User:Smerus|Smerus]] ([[User talk:Smerus|talk]]) 11:55, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::Also see [[Robert le diable]], with an experimental 'opera-specific' picture in the template and a pic of the compser at around thetimehe wrote it.--[[User:Smerus|Smerus]] ([[User talk:Smerus|talk]]) 14:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::::Also see my message below (tree), - I am debating with myself if I can reasonably support this projects any longer, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 12:03, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

== Precious ==

Thank you, Gerda, for the "Precious" you have put on my user talk page. As you know I am all more than 50 years a Bruckner-fan[http://www.abruckner.com/Data/editorsnote/features/firstexposure/Hulhoven_Reginald.pdf].--[[User:Meneerke bloem|Réginald alias Meneerke bloem]] <small>([[User talk:Meneerke bloem|To reply]])</small> 09:17, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

==A tree for you!==
[[File:Shishkin na severe dikom1.jpg|thumb|<span style="font-family: serif;">''In the Wild North'' -- [[Ivan_Shishkin|Shishkin]] (1891)</span>|left|190px]]


<span style="font-family: serif;"><big>'''Pine-Trees and the Sky: Evening'''


Then from the sad west turning wearily,

:I saw the pines against the white north sky,


Very beautiful, and still, and bending over

:Their sharp black heads against a quiet sky.


And there was peace in them; and I

:Was happy, and forgot to play the lover,


And laughed, and did no longer wish to die;

:Being glad of you, O pine-trees and the sky!</big>


[[Rupert Brooke]]</span>
</span>
{{clear}}
Thank you, makes this a holiday! I cherish the tree further up - safe from archiving - and I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&diff=569555963&oldid=569546629 loved the music] on the hill of my page. Are you [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Proposed decision#Comments from the reader?|ready for a game]]? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 12:01, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:Had a quick [[Rhyming slang|butchers..]] I kinda like the infoboxes, reminds me of the [[Top Trumps|school playground]]. -- [[User:Hillbillyholiday81|Hillbillyholiday]] <sup>[[User talk:Hillbillyholiday81|talk]]</sup> 15:31, 21 August 2013 (UTC) [http://onebigphoto.com/worlds-most-beautiful-trees-photography/ A forest!]
::I wish it was playground. It's about banning an excellent content editor for the reason that some find him "intimidating", - if you ask me: just because he has the better arguments, very intimidating indeed. I thought arbitration had to do with trying to find a solution between parties in battle, I really did. More experienced users [[User talk:Floquenbeam/Archive 6#Hearish?|corrected my innocent belief]]. "And there was peace in them", - not in me now. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 11:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

I wished to thank you for your kind sapphire and words! It's certainly nice to be appreciated, and it's an honour to receive it from such a nice editor like yourself. Feel free to page me if you need any favours. Regards, [[User:FoCuSandLeArN|FoCuSandLeArN]] ([[User talk:FoCuSandLeArN|talk]]) 19:23, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you! It's certainly nice to be called nice, where others think I need to be restricted and a friend needs to be banned, [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Proposed decision|see?]] Did you know I contributed to [[Kafka]]? Kafkaesque, [[The Judgment|Teh Judgment]], --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 19:58, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
::Hm, too much to read! Could you elaborate? What's the problem? Nice articles! [[User:FoCuSandLeArN|FoCuSandLeArN]] ([[User talk:FoCuSandLeArN|talk]]) 15:25, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Read below. Not banned, but restricted, and does it make sense - for the reader? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 15:49, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

== Frustrated, sick ==

Hi Gerda. After reading a few of your comments on various arbitrators' talk page, I'm a little worried about you, and would suggest – with great respect – that you take a few days off from Wikipedia. This place isn't worth the stress! With every best wish, [[User:AGK|<font color="black">'''AGK'''</font>]] [[User talk:AGK#top|[•]]] 17:42, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

:AGK, a LOT of us feel rather frustrated and sick at heart. [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 18:38, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
:AGK, thanks for the advice. Please note that I wrote about frustration 22 August. It's much worse today, but I don't have words for it. "In te speravi" --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 21:17, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
::Sadly, I am flooded with words; words I can not ponder to write lest I also become ill. Though things are in fact, worse than they appear, the burden is not yours to carry alone. I insist that you allow me to share that burden and promise that upon your gaze, you will see me, toiling aside you until words are no more.&nbsp;'':)''&nbsp;[[User:John Cline|John Cline]] ([[User talk:John Cline|talk]]) 22:08, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Thank you, John. I heard music. Remember your black barnstar? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 22:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
:::ps: Andy told me not to behave as if he was banned --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 22:13, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

== Million Award ==

I've been slow to follow up on your comment at PumpkinSky's page, but you're right--even without the main page appearance, Kafka comes in at just over a million. Which means I get to give one of favorite Wikipedians--that's you--one of these, too!

{| style="border: 1px solid red; background-color: #FFF7F7; width: 70%;"
|rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[File:million_award_logo.svg|100px]]
|rowspan="2" |
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Million Award'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For your contributions to bring [[Franz Kafka]] (estimated annual readership: 1,002,000) to [[Wikipedia:Featured articles|Featured Article]] status, I hereby present you the [[Wikipedia:Million Award|Million Award]]. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers. -- [[User:Khazar2|Khazar2]] ([[User talk:Khazar2|talk]]) 01:42, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
|}
{{-}}
Thanks a "million" for all you do here. It's a much better place thanks to your presence! -- [[User:Khazar2|Khazar2]] ([[User talk:Khazar2|talk]]) 01:42, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
:Fantastic! [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 02:32, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
::Thank you so much, made my day! This is the first userbox ever that I will use! - My user page is designed differently, feel free to follow the links in the image, - thank you, Khazar, you did it! (For those who don't know: I am proud of editor retention, and won Khazar twice! Looking at the results, that may have been the best I did here.) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 05:49, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
:::My pleasure, and thanks! You definitely get to count me. {{=)}} -- [[User:Khazar2|Khazar2]] ([[User talk:Khazar2|talk]]) 06:31, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
::::You will like the ensemble mentioned just above, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 06:33, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::I do! -- [[User:Khazar2|Khazar2]] ([[User talk:Khazar2|talk]]) 06:38, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

==DYK for Ben Gunn (campaigner)==
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}}<!-- Template:UpdatedDYKNom --> [[WP:Did you know|The DYK project]] ([[T:TDYK|nominate]]) 08:02, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thank you Gerda for the kind message on my Talk page. I had not encountered you before reading the ArbCom case, but you appear to be a kind, dedicated and courteous contributor of the type that Wikipedia sorely needs more of. With very best wishes, [[User:MartinPoulter|MartinPoulter]] ([[User talk:MartinPoulter|talk]]) 15:31, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==


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|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Editors Barnstar Hires.png|100px]]
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG|135px]]
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I'm not by there very often, but today I saw the recent kerfluffle at AN/I and thought you could use some sweets. Lest you think this is all selfless, though, I brought a second fork. Care to split it? -- [[User:Khazar2|Khazar2]] ([[User talk:Khazar2|talk]]) 02:33, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Editor's Barnstar'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Gerda, I am truly saddened to see the ArbCom finding against you, as you are quite possibly the kindest, most encouraging, compassionate editor on the entire project. Thank you for all your work, both in article space, and in "Precious". Happy editing. '''[[User:Go Phightins!|<font color="blue">Go</font>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<font color="#E90004">''Phightins''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Go Phightins!|<font color="#008504">!</font>]]''' 15:33, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
|}
|}


Thank you, sweet of you, - I would share with [[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy]] first if his doctors allow. Day by day I hope the thread autoarchives (havn't looked today), - I am sure his doctors allow no stress ;) . Did you see the list of 18 discussions "drowning" a project? - Everybody who takes an unbiased look is welcome to share the baklava! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 10:58, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
==Trying something out==
Can you take a look [[L'Arianna|here]]. The addition is mine. Please let me have your comments, but ''on my talkpage'' rather than on the article's talk. as I want to keep this low profile. [[User:Brianboulton|Brianboulton]] ([[User talk:Brianboulton|talk]]) 19:03, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
:Did you intentionally have no link to CM? I don't like the overlap in the last line, but that will go away if liked enough to have the links at the bottom, as for BB ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 21:50, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

== Arbitration case closed ==

An arbitration case regarding behaviour around the use of Infoboxes in several articles has now closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
{{quotation|1=<nowiki></nowiki>
#{{user|Pigsonthewing}} is indefinitely banned from adding, or discussing the addition or removal of, infoboxes.
#{{user|Nikkimaria}} is admonished to behave with the level of professionalism expected of an administrator.
#{{user|Gerda Arendt}} is indefinitely restricted from: adding or deleting infoboxes; restoring an infobox that has been deleted; or making more than two comments in discussing the inclusion or exclusion of an infobox on a given article. They may participate in wider policy discussions regarding infoboxes with no restriction, and include infoboxes in new articles which they create.
#{{user|Gerda Arendt}} is admonished for treating Wikipedia as if it were a battleground and advised to better conduct themselves.
#{{user|Smerus}} is reminded to conduct himself in a civil manner.
#All editors are reminded to maintain decorum and civility when engaged in discussions about infoboxes, and to avoid turning discussions about a single article's infobox into a discussion about infoboxes in general.
#The Arbitration Committee recommends that a well-publicized community discussion be held to address whether to adopt a policy or guideline addressing what factors should weigh in favor of or against including an infobox in a given article.

}}

For the Arbitration Committee, — [[User:Hahc21|<font color="#333333">'''ΛΧΣ'''</font>]][[User_talk:Hahc21|<font color="#336699">'''<sup>21</sup>'''</font>]] 00:26, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:'''[[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard/Archive 23#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes closed|Archived discussion]]'''
{{User MAwardFA|Franz Kafka}}
{{clear}}
==== Stand and sing ====
* Everybody following [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Proposed decision|the case]] knows that it was not about infoboxes, harmless things that serve an article like a cover a book, - look if you dare.
* I keep hoping that people will [[#Trying something out|try something out]]. {{diff|User talk:Brianboulton|572346396|572345200|This looks promising!}}
* I [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Workshop#Reach consensus|keep working]] for [[User:Gerda Arendt|peace]].
* Ich [[#Cherry Impact event barnstar|steh hier]] und [[Mass in B minor structure|singe]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 06:27, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

{{quotation|1=<nowiki></nowiki>'''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz5WfmBPM_0 Am I livin in a box?]<p>[[Woke up this morning]]<br />[[Brazen bull|Closed in on all sides]]<br />[[Lazybones (song)|Nothing doing]]<br />[[Friction burn|I feel resistance]]<br />[[Jeepers Creepers (song)|Because I opened my eyes]]<br />[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%22Heroes%22_%28David_Bowie_song%29&diff=566804899&oldid=566335039#Inspiration_and_recording Someone's foolin..]'''<p>
:<small>-- [[User:Hillbillyholiday81|Hillbillyholiday]] <sup>[[User talk:Hillbillyholiday81|talk]]</sup></small>
}}
You opened my eyes ;) - so many songs! - did you ever read my [[He was despised]]? (one of my better boxes on top) - Did you know where "[[Jesu, meine Freude|Ich steh hier und singe]]" comes from? In the stanza "Trotz dem alten Drachen ... und der Furcht dazu", --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 18:40, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:Wow. Still just dipping my toes into that [[Classical music|sea]], quite overwhelmin for a po' hillbilly like me, but I sure can feel [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmhZVjaqQo The Holy Spirit.] -- [[User:Hillbillyholiday81|Hillbillyholiday]] <sup>[[User talk:Hillbillyholiday81|talk]]</sup> 19:13, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
::You say the greatest things so simply. [[Mass in B minor structure#Et in Spiritum Sanctum|Et in Spiritum Sanctum]]. Singing is so much more profound than writing about it, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 20:41, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

:::It isn't classical, but both song and album have infoboxes! And it is a [[A Night at the Opera (Queen album)|Night at the Opera]]: [[Bohemian Rhapsody|I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me]]. But WE love YOU Gerda! So chin up! [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 21:49, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

== Bach Cantata Day! ==

Gerda, very saddened to see that you have been experiencing wikitrials and wikitribulations. I just wanted to drop you a line to let you know you are an awesome wikipedian, and this place is much better with you around. In your honor, I listened to several Bach cantatas today, #s 26, 53, 55, 56, 61, 68, 70, 82, 89, 98, 130, 151, 157, 174, 180, 189. Thanks for all the great music. [[User:78.26|<span style="border:1px solid black;color:red; padding:1px;background:1h5h1h"><font color="008B8B"><b>78.26</b></font></span>]] ([[User talk:78.26|I'm no IP, talk to me!]]) 02:03, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
:You are awesome! (I said so before.) - You can't be sad anymore after that experience, right? [[Der Geist hilft unsrer Schwachheit auf, BWV 226|Der Geist hilft unsrer Schwachheit auf]] ((The Spirit gives aid to our weakness)). Did you read the discussion about [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Proposed decision#Already a dead letter?|BWV 138]]? Warum betrübst du dich, mein Herz (Why do you trouble yourself, my heart), - I heard that one yesterday. The case is closed, but you might still add to the discussion, [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Proposed decision#Include infoboxes in new articles which they create?|Include infoboxes in new articles which they create]]. It's a bit kafkaesque ([[#Arbitration case closed|see above]]) that the same users who want to protect "their" articles (keep free from infobox) deny others the right to have their articles their way. The interests of the readers seem to play no role. Did you know this is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit? Did you see the "cheerful and optimistic" music on top? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 06:35, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

== Identitybox ==

{{Infobox book
| name = The End of the Road
| italic title = no
| image = <!-- Let's skip this. There are so many different covers anyways, and none of them are strongly associated with the book -->
| author = [[John Barth]]
| country = U.S.
| language = English
| pub_date = 1958}}
{{Infobox book
| name = The End of the Road
| italic title = no
| image = <!-- File:EndOfTheRoad.jpg -->
| caption = 1st edition
| author = [[John Barth]]
| cover_artist = [[Robert Watson (artist)|Robert Watson]]<ref>[http://www.amazon.com/The-End-Road-John-Barth/dp/B001OY53LW The End of the Road: John Barth, Jacket Painting By Robert Watson.: Amazon.com: Books] Retrieved 2013-09-19.</ref>
| country = U.S.
| language = English
| publisher = [[Doubleday (publisher)|Doubleday]]
| genre =
| pub_date = 1958
| pages = 230
| preceded_by = [[The Floating Opera]]
| followed_by = [[The Sot-Weed Factor]]
}}

Just to make sure we're not talking at cross purposes, can you tell me exactly what you envision an "Identitybox" to be?

I imagined what you meant by "I like to show an unprepared reader at a glance what an article is about" was exactly what I was aiming for at the article for [[The End of the Road]] (which is a bit of a mess now over this stuff). What I wanted was the first box to the right. What was forced on the article was the second (with a Fair Use image that can't be shown on your talk page). Basically, I wanted a box that gave a quick overview to the article, and that applied to all editions. A number of editors at WikiProject Novels have insisted that {{tl|Infobox book}} ''must'' be about the first edition, and ''must'' include an image of the cover of the first edition. They also strongly suggested I inlcude info such as the Dewey decimal number. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly&nbsp;Turkey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Curly Turkey|gobble]]) 03:16, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

:The credit for inventing the identitybox goes to [[User:Brianboulton|Brianboulton]], please read [[Talk:L'Arianna#The experiment]]. I don't "envision" it, but think it's a step forward. I would go for a bit more, adding time and place, librettist, language and publishing. I am not familiar with the special requirements for books, but a similar thing happens in music, where some editors want only the premiere performance listed, but I would say that Mendelssohn's performance of Bach's [[St Matthew Passion structure|St. Matthew Passion]] after 100 years deserved mentioning, also the many different editions of a [[Symphony No. 8 (Bruckner)|Bruckner symphony]] (this was installed in 2007, naturally not by me who joined in 2009, - and here people still believe in an infobox war). - It probably needs to be decided case by case, and there's the possibility of having more than one infobox. O dear, how many times did I use the [[#Arbitration case closed|tabu word]] ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 06:00, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
:Adding: in some infoboxes, music has the possibility of listing detailed information about a premiere performance, clearly marked as such, [[Talk:The Rite of Spring#Infobox facts|for example]], - I could imagine something like that for a first edition of a book, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 06:50, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
::On the books issue, the rational arguments are all on Curly Turkey's side; indeed, the {{tl|Infobox book}} is an example of why writers of opera and music articles generally remain antagonistic to the idea of infoboxes. First, the article is about a novel, not about the first edition of a novel. Secondly, an infobox is defined by WP as a summary of the ''key facts'' about a subject. The name of the artist who designed the first edition cover is not key information about the novel, nor is the number of pages, which may well change from edition to edition. Dewey classification is marginal info which also changes with editions. The "preceded by" and "followed by" information is confusing and pointless – does it mean the book is part of a series, or are these merely the previous and next novels of the writer? In either event, it is simply not key information relevant to this novel.
::If I were CT I would politely reject the project editors' suggestions. I'd keep the front cover for illustrative purposes. I'd perhaps provide a caption under the illustration stating that this was the "first edition cover, illustrated by Mr X". I'd request that the "Publication date" parameter be specified as "Original publication date", and I'd drop the pages numbers and the preceded/followed by stuff. [[User:Brianboulton|Brianboulton]] ([[User talk:Brianboulton|talk]]) 10:44, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
:::I ''am'' CT, and I'd ''love'' to "politely reject the project editors' suggestions". If you [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Novels#The End of the Road by John Barth image debate|read the discussion]], though, you'll see that that polite refusal is not an option I've been granted. Two of the three editors in question are admins, and I don't doubt ignoring their "suggestions" would result in a block on me. I haven't dared touched the box since [[User:GrahamHardy|GrahamHardy]] first fiddled with it (although [[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] has)—I have no intention of being accused of editwarring. I've been informed "the infobox information is supposed to familiarize the audience with the original first edition physical form of the book", which I think is out-and-out ridiculous, but the two admins have decided that it's decided, so no further discussion shall take place. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly&nbsp;Turkey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Curly Turkey|gobble]]) 12:35, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
::::I saw the discussion ;) - Don't be afraid, not every admin blocks, not even I (who needs to be told that Wikipedia is no battleground) was blocked so far ;) - I agree with your reasoning in the case. Now comes the tricky question how much influence the author has. I see double standards: if he wants no infobox, he gets support and protection from the arbs, - if he wants one things are different, look at [[BWV 138]] mentioned above, look for "a dead letter" and follow the link. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 13:27, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::I don't think that's altogether fair, Gerda. An editor who went about summarily removing infoboxes from others' articles would normally get pretty short shrift. The main areas of discord have been around attempts to impose infoboxes where their inclusion is disputed. To return to CT's problem, the assertion that "the infobox information is supposed to familiarize the audience with the original first edition physical form of the book" is to say the least highly questionable, and doesn't meet the WP Infobox Project definition of "a quick and convenient summary of the key facts about a subject". But I can understand CT's unwillingness to enter into a "brick wall" argument. Sometimes it's wise to step back, even when logic and right are on your side. [[User:Brianboulton|Brianboulton]] ([[User talk:Brianboulton|talk]]) 14:48, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::::The same editor is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beautiful_Losers&curid=1265938&diff=576333505&oldid=575207002 at it again]. He's fully aware I dispute this. He's added a Fair Use image despite the comment about why there isn't one, and has added fields as well, without discussion, even though he knows I dispute it. He knows he's got a couple of admins to back him up so that I won't have the balls to do nything about it. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly&nbsp;Turkey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Curly Turkey|gobble]]) 20:51, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::I don't know what you mean by not fair. An editor summarily removed infoboxes from others' articles and was just told to behave. Two editors did NOT (in 2013) summarily add (impose) infoboxes to others' articles and were restricted anyway, that's my reading. I am the main contributor to [[BWV 138]], but it doesn't have an infobox like 100 or so other Bach cantatas for the simple reason that I didn't "create" it. Does it make sense? Not to me. Perhaps I have a language difficulty? You won't believe how far I stepped back already ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 15:05, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
{{od}}
Perhaps people would be less likely to claim the irrational was rational if they actually read template documentation? In the case of {{tl|Infobox book}}, it says:

; preceded_by: Title of prior book {{em|in series}}
; followed_by: Title of subsequent book {{em|in series or sequel}}

(emphasis in original). I'm pretty sure the sequence of, say, Harry Potter, James Bond, Discworld or Inspector Morse novels are significant to their readers. I think you will also find that the majority of music articles have infoboxes; and that you don't speak for their writers. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 11:12, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
:I don't understand what you mean by "less likely to claim the irrational was rational" – possibly you meant it the other way round. In any event, the casual reader should not be required to read template documentation to discover that a book is part of a series. [[User:Brianboulton|Brianboulton]] ([[User talk:Brianboulton|talk]]) 14:48, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
::To be fair, the book sequences were not under dispute. ''I'' added them a long time ago out of ignorance, and when it was pointed out that's not what they were for, ''I'' removed them, and nobody protested. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly&nbsp;Turkey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Curly Turkey|gobble]]) 12:21, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
::I assure you I meant it exactly as I wrote it. However, I was not referring to "the casual reader". <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 18:56, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
:::Plenty of editors simply copy and paste templates from a model article to the one they're working on and then fill in the fields. Some are not even aware that there ''is'' documentation, or how to access it—it's not in the least intuitive that one should preface the template name you see in the article source with "Template:" to reach it. I had long since ceased to be a "casual reader" before I learned that. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly&nbsp;Turkey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Curly Turkey|gobble]]) 20:39, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
::::What can we template designers do to be read and perhaps be understood better? {{tl|Infobox Bach composition}} Some templates come with one-letter-symbols for view/talk/edit, did you know? {{tl|Benjamin Britten}} Could an infobox have the same? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 20:54, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::That's not a bad idea. Alternatively, one could place "See <nowiki>[[Template:Infobox turkey]]</nowiki>" as a hidden comment beside the template name:

<pre>
{{Infobox turkey <!-- see [[Template:Infobox turkey]] -->
|breed = Curly
|flavour = Delicious
|best_bite = Drumstick
|gravy = Fuggedaboutit}}</pre>
:::::———[[User:Curly Turkey|Curly&nbsp;Turkey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Curly Turkey|gobble]]) 21:32, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::Delicious! Only: how to spread the good news, when people don't go to that place because they don't find it, simply copy from chicken? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 21:57, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::::A bot, perhaps? I can't image such edits being controversial. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly&nbsp;Turkey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Curly Turkey|gobble]]) 22:13, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::::You mean a bot could add that comment to [[Wikipedia:List of infoboxes|every infobox in articles]]? Probably. (So far I thought you meant in the documentation which users don't find.) The same bot could add that the source for the article begins below the infobox - for those who think the infobox code at the beginning of the source is confusing to editors. (You won't believe some of the arguments against infoboxes until you see them. My favourite, slightly reworded: the box takes away attention from my beautifully crafted article.) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 07:35, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, I've seen all the arguments. I'm not entirely sympathetic either—especially to the argument about articles with infoboxes opening with a pile of code. I'd like to see a more elegant solution, and one that's easier for newbies to navigate, but I still see greater value in having infoboxes than in not. Something I ''do'' agree with the disinfoboxers over is that infoboxes tend to become dumping grounds for every trivial detail, can be crammed with distoritions or gross oversimplifications, and can be overloked when details in the body change (so that, say, the infobox gives us one figure, while the body gives us another). That's why I'd like to see infoboxes kept short, simple, and to the point, like the box I provided above, rather than something like [[Quicksilver (novel)|this]], that tells us that ''this novel'', yes ''this one, too'', can you believe it? — has the Dewey decimal number 813. I'm surprised the dimensions of the first edition hardcover aren't provided—how else would a reader know if the book will fit in their bag? [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly&nbsp;Turkey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Curly Turkey|gobble]]) 08:08, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::Agree! I like the short one and would not need the name of the cover artist. - I am thinking about fields to have in the box (for search functions etc.) but not show. Example: if an article title is [[Symphony No. 8 (Dvořák)|Symphony No. 8]], you don't need to be shown that the genre is symphony, but would want programs to find it when they look for genre=symphony. - What do you think of the box in [[Diary of a Nobody|Today's feature article]]? (by the inventor of the identitybox) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:46, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::ps: I agree, see {{tl|Infobox musical composition}}: "The template is very general and therefore offers a great choice of parameters. For a given composition, use only those of relevance," --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:17, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::Re: "genre=symphony": is there any reason this kind of thing shouldn't be left entirely to WikiData?
:::::::::::Re: ''Diary of a Nobody'': I do see a couple of issues. "Publisher" doesn't make it clear that it was the ''first'' publisher—Andy's proposed changing the parameters to make that clearer. Personally, I'd just drop it from the infobox and keep it in the "Publication history" section of the article, regardless of Andy's proposed changes.
:::::::::::With "Media type" I see multiple issues: "Print, audio and eBook"—this seems to imply that J. W. Arrowsmith, the publisher listed, is responsible for the audiobook and eBook versions. In fact, according to Amazon, there are multiple audiobooks from different publishers, none of whom are J. W. Arrowsmith. Ditto with the eBook. Further, why is the publisher the ''first'' publisher, but the medi type ''all'' media types? Obviously, the audiobook and eBook versions were not part of the book's 1892 rollout. Again, personall, I don't see "Media type" as being of infobox scope in the first place, and wouldn't consider using it in the first place unless there were some special significance to it (can't think of an example off the top of my head).
:::::::::::Then there's one more thing that has gotten to me for some time: "Author" when there are two? "Author(s)" is an ugly (and common) alternative, but it seems to me that the software should be able to handle something like this, especially now that we have Lua rolled out. Of course, that's a bit outside the domain of article editing. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly&nbsp;Turkey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Curly Turkey|gobble]]) 10:59, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::Re: "The template is very general and therefore offers a great choice of parameters. For a given composition, use only those of relevance,": I love the philosphy. The OWNers of Infobox Book don't subscribe to that philosophy, and have decreed the opposite: "The template is very specific and offers a large number of mandatory parameters. For a given book, use all those possible". Software won't fix that. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly&nbsp;Turkey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Curly Turkey|gobble]]) 11:03, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

== JSB ==

Alas I am busy travelling until end November. At a quick glance there are some major issues over idiomatic English. Amongst these, you need to explain what you mean by 'parody' in the section heading. Also explain 'missa tota' etc.....Best--[[User:Smerus|Smerus]] ([[User talk:Smerus|talk]]) 14:36, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
:I did what I could, please check, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 12:58, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


==Infobox request==
==Infobox request==
Work your magic, if you have a few minutes: [[A Song for Simeon]].--[[User:ColonelHenry|ColonelHenry]] ([[User talk:ColonelHenry|talk]]) 23:55, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Work your magic, if you have a few minutes: [[A Song for Simeon]].--[[User:ColonelHenry|ColonelHenry]] ([[User talk:ColonelHenry|talk]]) 23:55, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:Done. Did you know that Simeon is among [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images#2 February 2013|my images]]? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 10:41, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:Done. Did you know that Simeon is among [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images#2 February 2013|my images]]? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 10:41, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

==Another experiment==
Hi Gerda. Can you suggest, informally on my talkpage, your ideas for the format of an "identibox" that might be suitable for classical composers? [[User:Brianboulton|Brianboulton]] ([[User talk:Brianboulton|talk]]) 16:47, 27 October 2013 (UTC)


== Infoboxes clarification request archived ==
== Infoboxes clarification request archived ==
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{{od}}
{{od}}
[[WP:PROXYING]], which is [[WP:POLICY|a policy]] says {{tq|"Wikipedians in turn are not permitted to post or edit material at the direction of a banned editor (sometimes called proxy editing or proxying) '''unless they are able to show that the changes are either verifiable or productive and they have independent reasons for making such edits'''"}} (my emphasis). <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 11:38, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
[[WP:PROXYING]], which is [[WP:POLICY|a policy]] says {{tq|"Wikipedians in turn are not permitted to post or edit material at the direction of a banned editor (sometimes called proxy editing or proxying) '''unless they are able to show that the changes are either verifiable or productive and they have independent reasons for making such edits'''"}} (my emphasis). <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 11:38, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

== Re: Precious ==

[[File:Macchiato as being served at Kaffebrenneriet Torshov, Oslo, Norway 2 600x600 100KB.jpg|right|100x100px|Espresso]]
Thanks for the sapphire! ''[blushes]'' It's nice to feel valued, particularly as my contributions have been so sporadic over the past years. And thanks especially for continuing this tradition -- I'm sure you've made a lot of people feel their contributions are worthwhile. Have a nice espresso on me <small>(feel free to exchange for the beverage of your choice)</small> :) [[User:Espresso Addict|Espresso Addict]] <small>([[User talk:Espresso Addict|talk]])</small> 01:40, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
:I like the Espressp, thank you! You should change you name to [[User:Espresso Addict|Expression Addict]] ;) - you expressed well that I [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes#Reductio ad absurdum from NE Ent|would like to feel that my contributions are worthwhile]]. Look for "blush" above ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 06:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)


==DYK for Jahrhundertring==
==DYK for Jahrhundertring==
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Really glad to see this cultural milestone make it into the encyclopedia and onto the front page too. Well done! [[User:Whiteghost.ink|Whiteghost.ink]] ([[User talk:Whiteghost.ink|talk]]) 03:19, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Really glad to see this cultural milestone make it into the encyclopedia and onto the front page too. Well done! [[User:Whiteghost.ink|Whiteghost.ink]] ([[User talk:Whiteghost.ink|talk]]) 03:19, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you, see [[User:Gerda Arendt/Memories|my memories]] :) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:51, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you, see [[User:Gerda Arendt/Memories|my memories]] :) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:51, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Barnstar of Humour Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Barnstar of Good Humor'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | You really make being a contributor more fun! Thanks. [[User:Maximilianklein|Maximilianklein]] ([[User talk:Maximilianklein|talk]]) 23:31, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
|}


== nothing secret here ==
== nothing secret here ==
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:::Thank you for sharing elucidation! The infobox story [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Workshop#Reach consensus|goes back to 2005]], did you know? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 15:39, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Thank you for sharing elucidation! The infobox story [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Workshop#Reach consensus|goes back to 2005]], did you know? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 15:39, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

== St John Passion ==

Gerda, fresh from spending a total of about eight hours in St Thomas's (less in St Nicholas's), I'm acquainting myself properly with this work via Gardiner's recording—bit by bit, many repetitions, as is my style. I had vastly underestimated it. [[User:Tony1|<font color="darkgreen">'''Tony'''</font >]] [[User talk:Tony1|<font color="darkgreen">(talk) </font >]] 03:28, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
:Great! I sang it every other year for a while, alternating with [[St Matthew Passion structure|St Matthew Passion]]. What do think of [[St John Passion structure]] for next lent, similar to [[Mass in B minor structure]]? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:54, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

==Info-boxing==
You [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Peter_Sellers&diff=581827215&oldid=581820026 recently stated], "'' my two entries to a given infobox discussion per day''". As I read it, the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes#Gerda_Arendt_restricted|restriction]] is an absolute limit, not a daily ration. As this particular case may well go to [[WP:AE|arbcom enforcement]] and the enforcers tend to be quite draconian, you may be subject to further sanctions. I suggest that you withdraw your extra comments while you can. [[User:Colonel Warden|Warden]] ([[User talk:Colonel Warden|talk]]) 09:24, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
:One extra "comment" (answering a question!) was saying that I am restricted, the other (answering another question!) that I will not use my time for looking. Sanction me for that please, to make things more absurd, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:28, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::{{tps}} Do NOT sanction Gerda for answering my question, please. I never would have asked her if I knew there would be any sort of problem with it. [[User:Doc9871|<font color="#000000" size="2">'''Doc'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Doc9871|<font color="#999999">'''talk'''</font>]] 09:33, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Doc, look around, for example for "Kafka" and "terrorizing", - I am amused, looks like I may be sanctioned for diplomacy, but now nothing surprises me here any more, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:38, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::I had not read the full text of the restriction. There is no way you are going to be sanctioned because of what I asked you there. If you are, I will make quite sure it is overturned. And my apologies for inquiring there without looking into it further first. [[User:Doc9871|<font color="#000000" size="2">'''Doc'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Doc9871|<font color="#999999">'''talk'''</font>]] 09:46, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
:::No problem. How can people know that I am a woman who needs to be restricted? That if they insert any infobox they are making a proxy edit because I would want one? (On top of my user, there is a link from "nobis", - I am so proud of my template.) - I wrote on [[Kafka]], it really helps, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 10:01, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::::Well, if you want to save trouble for folks like Doc in the future, perhaps you should cautiously look into [[WP:MULTIPLE]], taking care to avoid any appearance of [[WP:PUPPET]]. If you decide to create a second mutually-userpage-linked account, so that you can comment on infoboxen-related policy without violating your restrictions and without inciting others to violate the asinine blanket surrounding restrictions, may I suggest [[User:Gerda the Notorious Infoboxen wikiCriminal]]? Methinks it is both an illuminating warning to future-Doc-like-folks, and simultaneously points to the absurdity that one could ever *need* to have such a secondary username in the first place? Or perhaps you can petition to have this[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kafka] dormant uid reassigned to you. :-) &nbsp; Hope this helps. [[Special:Contributions/74.192.84.101|74.192.84.101]] ([[User talk:74.192.84.101|talk]]) 13:36, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::Thank you for a suggestion that may tempt others, but I am here under my name. I might consider to carry the warning in my signature, with a link to [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes#Reductio ad absurdum from NE Ent|teh template]] ;) - As said before (in the so-called clarification and discussions with arbs), I take the restriction as well deserved for defending Andy (something I do with pride), even if it doesn't make sense and is against my quality standard, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 13:51, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
::You've got a "[[scold's bridle]]" on, yet your block log is unblemished. Quite odd, indeed. [[User:Doc9871|<font color="#000000" size="2">'''Doc'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Doc9871|<font color="#999999">'''talk'''</font>]] 10:05, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Also I am still {{diff|User talk:Newyorkbrad|580783102|580771045|waiting for one diff}} of what I did "disruptive", on top of that being a word with a positive ring for me ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 10:16, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Warden, there was nothing wrong in the final comment (essentially a "no comment" comment) and I for one would be happy to take any Arb to task if there was any censure. Although they do stick strongly to the rules, however, I do believe that they show sufficient common sense on most occasions to overlook something like a "no comment". I also fail to see how this matter will end up at "Arbcom enforcement", given there are no breaches of anything they ''would'' get involved in! - [[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat|talk]]) 10:32, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Peace Barnstar Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Barnstar of Diplomacy'''
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For getting involved in the interests of mediation and offering a happy alternative. There's no point in taking risks, so no diffs provided ;) '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<font face="Papyrus">Cassianto</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<font face="Papyrus">Talk</font>]]</sup></span>''' 09:30, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
|}
:No diffs needed, supplied above ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:33, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

== Some baklava for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG|135px]]
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For the great message you left me :) [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 11:54, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
|}
Thank you, I [[#Some baklava for you!|love to share]], --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 11:59, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Yummy, thanks Gerda!!♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 12:18, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

:You are welcome, it's fingerfood, and more above if this is not enough, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 12:35, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thank you, Gerda Arendt! :) It's an honor to receive your award for a second time. Best. [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 15:00, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
: Thank you, it's memory also, see the top here: missing the pumpkins and so many more. But I am still around and just created ''[[A Boy was Born]]'' on the composers centenary, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 15:09, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
::I miss the pumpkins, too. :( It saddens me that many of my friends here from 2007/2008 have left; fortunately, I'm still in contact with some of them elsewhere online and there are a few of my friends from that era still active. I know that we haven't interacted much but I am glad that you are here; it's always good to have positive and hard-working editors such as yourself around. :) Best. [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 15:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
:::I am in e-mail contact with the pumpkins, but miss things as working on [[Kafka]] together, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 15:34, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
:::He liked that [[Grace Sherwood]] is on the [[:de:Wikipedia:Hauptseite|German Main page]], today and tomorrow, in the DYK equivalent SG ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 18:03, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
::::I too liked the witch when I read her article the other night before [[Sleep|nodding off]]. Although I assure you the two were unconnected ;) --'''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<font face="Papyrus">Cassianto</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<font face="Papyrus">Talk</font>]]</sup></span>''' 18:07, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

== A Boy was Born ==

Delighted to make the acquaintance of the piece. Having read this article, which seems to me to say what needs saying, and to say it most readably, I shall seek out a recording and listen to the work after dinner. [[User:Tim riley|Tim riley]] ([[User talk:Tim riley|talk]]) 17:37, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
:There would be a bit more (Spicer source) but rehearsal comes first, Mass by Michael Haydn for Christmas. The Boy will make a good Christmas DYK ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 17:47, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
::Veering off at a tangent, did I ever tell you that in my chorister days (which ended with a horrible croak when my voice broke circa 1967) Bach was my favourite to sing, and Haydn (J) not far behind? But I never met M Haydn's Mass. Have you run across Weber's Jübel Mass? I enjoyed singing that nearly as much as JSB's Magnificat. [[User:Tim riley|Tim riley]] ([[User talk:Tim riley|talk]]) 20:10, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Michael wrote several, we do "Missa sub titulo Sancti Francisci Seraphici" in honour of the pope ;) - We is the group pictured on my user page. I didn't meet the Weber Mass yet, the other group will perform a mass by Andrea Gabrieli on Sunday. Both interesting pieces. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 21:26, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
::::In the name of your countless Wikipedia admirers I hereby demand to be told which of the people in [[:File:Chor und Kinderchor von St. Bonifatius 2011 cropped.JPG]] is our beloved Gerda. Something like "xth-on the left on the y-th row" will do nicely. [[User:Tim riley|Tim riley]] ([[User talk:Tim riley|talk]]) 22:27, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::Top (of course), 4th from right, but it's an older picture. [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes#Reductio ad absurdum from NE Ent|Admired]]? {{diff|User talk:Newyorkbrad|582833813|582833129|Beloved}}? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 23:04, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Clearly an impostor, obviously a recent post-graduate student. [[User:Tim riley|Tim riley]] ([[User talk:Tim riley|talk]]) 01:56, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Who? The one who showed the absurdity of certain sanctions in one line? I am a great admirer of the art. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:19, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

[[Image:Ambox notice.svg|link=|25px|alt=Information icon]] There is currently a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you.
:Sunday morning, I am in a good mood and get an untitled unsigned arb notification notice. Thank you, Sandy. I like your voters guide, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 07:53, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

==WCLG (AM)‎==
Hey Gerda, hope all is well with you. I was wondering, if you have a couple minutes, could you do an informal peer review on the [[WCLG (AM)‎]] page, please? I am hoping to take it to GA. I am waiting on one picture from [[User:Bitmapped]] of the outside of the WCLG-AM/FM building, so I am doing this a little backwards. Thanks in advance. :) - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 08:00, 24 November 2013 (UTC)</small>
:You just look above to find out if all is well ;) Sunday sercice mow, we sing a mass by [[Andrea Gabrieli]], - so please be patient, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 08:04, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
::I always forget you are a couple hours ahead of us here in the US. :) As for the ANI post, I'm sorry. I didn't notice that before I posted. I'm sorry to say it doesn't surprise me that SandyGeorgia is going after you (yet again), Kww and Wehwalt. Her intent, it appears, is to push out any and all good editors.

::Don't let that ruin your Sunday. I hope you have fun singing Gabrieli and I wish I could be there to hear it. No rush on the PR. :) Take Care...<small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 08:13, 24 November 2013 (UTC)</small>

:::We sang well, glorious 400 years old music, capturing the spirit of the ever-repeated words with simple means, convincing. We also also sang a motet by Pachelbel for eight parts, "Now thank we all our God", with coloraturas on "Er gebe uns ein fröhlich Herz" (My He give us a joyful heart), - worked at least for today ;) For postlude, the instruments (recorder, [[cornett]], Baroque trombones, percussion, [[Regal (instrument)|regal]]) played an animated dance music. - Your article looks good to me, but I would avoid to squeeze text between the infobox and an image, - I got {{diff|Peter Planyavsky|542110190|542087199|this}} in a similar case. - In case you don't want to investigate the arb candidates before voting follow the [[User:Bishzilla/Vote ACE 2013|simple and trustworthy guidance of Bishzilla]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 15:52, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
::::The "Oldies 13AM" logo is there temporarily. Once I get that building image, I am going to shift some things around image-wise. The "Oldies" logo will move further down the page and the building image will move somewhere in there. It will all look great in the end. :)

::::Anywho, it's neat that you all have instruments year-round in your choir, we only have them for Palm Sunday, Easter and Christmas and typically just trumpets. Otherwise, it is just the pipe organ and sometimes the piano, though played by the same person. We have a group that plays the bells, but those are every once-in-a-while and not a weekly thing. Take Care...<small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 16:06, 24 November 2013 (UTC)</small>

:::::The instruments are there for special occasions, they rehearse and more often play by themselves in services in different formations. The choir is not singing weekly, not even monthly, groups take turns, adult choir next time for Christmas, ''Christmette'' late on the 24th, including [[Lux Aurumque]], --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 16:23, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

== Do you do Purcell? ==

My first venture in starting a classical music article...let the WikiProject hammer me for it. Started an article on Purcell's anthem ''[[Remember not, Lord, our offences]]'', and same-day at DYK and GAN. Tell me what you think.--[[User:ColonelHenry|ColonelHenry]] ([[User talk:ColonelHenry|talk]]) 20:15, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

: Thank you! {{diff|Reger-Chor|583433357|581970244|Linked}}, before even looking, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 20:31, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
: What do think of moving the background foreward and then cover composition? - We just sang a Pachelbel motet, with instruments playing colla parte (see above). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 20:43, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
:* Purcell is one of my first loves and this anthem a sentimental favourite. I went through about three revisions of the article with different ideas on how to organize it and I still want to play with it because I'm convinced there's a better way--so I'm definitely open to any ideas regarding background/composition. I thought you would have noticed my skillful addition of a infobox before now. ;)--[[User:ColonelHenry|ColonelHenry]] ([[User talk:ColonelHenry|talk]]) 21:21, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
:::You did well, but I am supposed not to mention the unspeakable word, see just above ;) - My link was to my memory of singing it, did you see? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 21:26, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


==Infobox==
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:The Signora will do one of two things. She will either iron the shirt or refuse to iron it, but she won't have misinterpreted your intention. There will be several factors which will influence her decision to comply. How you phrased the request is probably the least of them. [[Signora]] [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 13:15, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
:The Signora will do one of two things. She will either iron the shirt or refuse to iron it, but she won't have misinterpreted your intention. There will be several factors which will influence her decision to comply. How you phrased the request is probably the least of them. [[Signora]] [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 13:15, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
::Nice scene! I play the role of the Signora now: I would iron the shirt if the request addressed me personally: "Can you please iron this shirt? I would do it myself but I am not allowed to ... You could help me.", and I might be quite deaf to the above ;) - Unfortunately, the parallel doesn't work, because on an article talk, I don't like to talk about my shameful "not allowed" (now it says even "ban"), and I can't address someone personally. When I say "I am looking for someone", I don't mean a specific person. - Please check the singer, there's more now. I will look for better sourcing for the recordings, copied from the Spanish Wikipedia. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 13:51, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
::Nice scene! I play the role of the Signora now: I would iron the shirt if the request addressed me personally: "Can you please iron this shirt? I would do it myself but I am not allowed to ... You could help me.", and I might be quite deaf to the above ;) - Unfortunately, the parallel doesn't work, because on an article talk, I don't like to talk about my shameful "not allowed" (now it says even "ban"), and I can't address someone personally. When I say "I am looking for someone", I don't mean a specific person. - Please check the singer, there's more now. I will look for better sourcing for the recordings, copied from the Spanish Wikipedia. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 13:51, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

== Many thanks ==

Many thanks for your message and for calling me an Awesome Wikipedian! [[User:Amitchell125|Hel-hama]] ([[User talk:Amitchell125|talk]]) 19:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

== Talkback: WikiDragons do not exist; stop wasting my time ==

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&mdash;[[User:Ahnoneemoos|Ahnoneemoos]] ([[User talk:Ahnoneemoos|talk]]) 08:20, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

==DYK nomination of Gabriele Schnaut==
[[Image:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[Gabriele Schnaut]] at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath '''[[Template:Did you know nominations/Gabriele Schnaut|your nomination's entry]]''' and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 00:42, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
:Please see new note on DYK nomination page.
:BTW, I read your [[Jahrhundertring]] hook at the top of your talk page. It really deserved all those hits! [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 18:17, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

==German translations==
I'll be taking a look at ''Wachet auf'' in the next few days...I've been organizing some of my goals for next year. I envision limited time next year so I want to plan my work. I have a lot on my plate next year in real life, so I have to start planning now so that I don't waste my time not getting anything done here, and not letting my Wiki-time overwhelm my real life obligations. I'll e-mail you to discuss some of those plans.

I recently trannslated a few titles of polemical tracts written by [[Angelus Silesius]] that someone just dumped on the article earlier in the year (I think they just cut-and-paste something from the German Wiki, or from an online source). I've been wanting to do it for months, and had an opportunity in boredom last week. Can you double check to make sure my translation of the titles is accurate? The relevant section is: [[Angelus Silesius#Theological tracts and polemical writings]]. I appreciate it.--[[User:ColonelHenry|ColonelHenry]] ([[User talk:ColonelHenry|talk]]) 05:34, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

:I will look, while you can do magic (remember) on the wake up call ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 13:31, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

A start, changes italic, words I don't know "(?)" (+ I would capitalise the beginnings) (typo: "Trimuphs" is certainly "Triumphs", others I may not see) (I would leave Latin Latin) (Überziehung: perhaps better invasion, infiltration) (final question: were these important works not translated before?):

* 1653: ''Gründtliche Ursachen von Motiven, warumb Er Von dem Lutherthumb abgetretten, und sich zu der Catholischen Kyrchen bekennet hat.'' (trans. "a thorough examination of his motives why he ''deviated'' from ''Lutheranism'' and confessed to the Catholic church")
* 1663: ''T'''ür'''cken-Schrifft Von den Ursachen der Türkischen Uberziehung.'' (trans. "''writing on the Turks / Of'' the causes ''of'' the Turkish overdraft(?)")
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* 1664: ''Kehr-Wisch? Zu Abkehrung des Ungeziefers Mit welchem seine wolgemeinte Tückenschrifft Christianus Chemmtis hat wollen verhast machen.'' (trans. "To A Sweeping conversion of the Vermin which Christ would want to make with his well-intentioned trickery")
* 1664: ''Zerbrochene Trimuphs-Wagen auff welchem er Uber die Lutheraner triumphirend einzufahren ihm im Traum vorkommen lassen.'' (trans. "The Broken Triumph Wagon, over which he triumphantly can tell the Lutherans it can happen in a dream")
* 1664: ''Christen-Schrifft Von dem herrlichen Kennzeichen deß Volkes Gottes.'' (trans. "That the Christian scriptures are the lovely mark of God's people")
* 1664: ''Und Scheffler redet noch! Daß ist Johannis Schefflers Schutz-Rede Für sich und seine Christen-Schrifft.'' (trans. "And Scheffler still speaks! That Johann Scheffler's protecting speech for himself and his Christian scriptures")
* 1665: ''Kommet her und Sehet mit vernünfftigen Augen wie Joseph und die Heiligen bey den Catholischen geeehret.'' (trans. "Come and Behold, glorified with reasonable eyes as Joseph and the Saints by the Catholics")
* 1665: ''Der Lutheraner und Calvinisten Abgott der Vernunfft entblösset dargestellt.'' (trans. "The God of Reason of the Lutherans and Calivinsits shown denuded.")
* 1665: ''Gülden-Griff Welcher Gestalt alle Ketzer auch von dem Ungelehrtesten leichtlich können gemeistert werden.''
* 1666: ''Des Römischen Bapists Oberhauptmannschaft über die gantze allgemeine Kirche Christi.'' (trans. "The Roman Baptists' leadership of the entire general Church of Christ")
* 1667: ''Johannis Schefflers Gründliche Außführung Daß die Lutheraner auf keine weise noch wege ihren Glauben in der Schrifft zu zeigen vermögen und ihr Gott ein blosser Wahn Bild oder Ding ihrer Vernunfft sey.'' (trans. "A thorough handling that the Lutherans have no routes to their faith in the Scriptures to show their God as either a mere hallucination or a thing of reason")
* 1670: ''Kurtze Erörterung Der Frage Ob die Lutheraner in Schlesien der in Instrumento Pacis denen Augsburgischen Confessions-Verwandten verliehenen Religions-Freyheit sich getrösten können.'' (trans. "A short discussion of the question whether religious liberty can exist with the Lutherans in Silesia where the Augsburg Confessions have been been accorded an Instrument of Peace")
* 1670: ''Christiani Conscientiosi Sendschreiben An Alle Evangelische Universitäten in welchem er seine Gewissens-Scrupel proponirt.'' (trans. "To all conscientious Christians: A Letter to all Protestant Universities in which he proposes his scruples of conscience")
* 1671: ''Johann Schefflers Erweiß Daß der gröste Hauffe die rechte Kirche sey; Und man sich kurtzumb zu der Catholischen Kirche begeben musse wo man ewig Seelig werden wil.'' (trans. "Johann Scheffler's knowledge that the greates home the t/rue church is—to go to the Catholic church where you will be forever blessed")
* 1672: ''J. E. InformationSchreiben Wegen des Fegefeuers an E. V. In welchem unüberwindlich erwiesen wird daß mehr als zwey Orte der Seelen nach dem Tode und ein Fegefeuer sey.'' (trans. "An informative letter on Purgatory, proving insurmountably the more than two places of the soul after death and purgatory")
* 1673: ''Hierothei Boranowsky Gerechtfertigter Gewissens-Zwang Oder Erweiß daß man die Ketzer zum wahren Glauben zwingen könne und solle.'' (trans. Boranowsky's The Justified Coercion of Conscience, or the knowledge of what could and should force heretics to the true faith")
* 1675: ''Johannis Schefflers Alleiniges Him[m]elreich Das ist Abweisung Des schädlichen Wahns daß man wol Seelig werden könne wenn man gleich nicht Catholisch wird.'' (trans. "Johann Scheffler's The Kingdom of Heaven alone rejects the harmful delusion that you can be saved if you are not Catholic")
* 1675: ''D. J. Schefflers Vernünfftiger Gottes-Dienst.'' (trans. "J. Scheffler's Reasonable Service to God")
* 1675: ''Der Catholisch gewordene Bauer Und Lutherische Doctor'' (trans. "The Catholic becomes a farmer and Lutheran Doctor")
* 1677: ''Ecclesiologia Oder Kirche-Beschreibung.'' (''trans. "The Words of the Church, or Description of the Church") -->

Interrupted, anyway: the best person I know for idiomatic translations is [[User:Moonraker|Moonraker]], --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 13:57, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Responses:
* Überziehung for invasion might be appropriate...the Turks were making inroads in the northern Balkans at the time (the slow March to Vienna which ended with the Turkish withdrawal after a failed 20 years later.
* I wrote the article with only the poetry, no list of polemics...and then someone just dumped the raw list of German polemical tract titles which I confirmed were real, reorganized and said "I'll translate the titles soon"...well, soon took a few months to get back to. I know there's a few misspellings in there...something that made translation a miserable experience (Overdraft vs. Invasion...was wondering around that umlaut). My German is decent, just "nicht fliessend."--[[User:ColonelHenry|ColonelHenry]] ([[User talk:ColonelHenry|talk]]) 18:58, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

:*Found [http://books.google.de/books/about/Johannis_Schefflers_T%C3%BCrken_Schrifft_Von.html?id=_R-wPgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y this] and corrected the German above. I still wonder if nobody scientific translated these before. - Love your English/German rhyme! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 00:09, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

== thank you ==

Thank you, Gerda, for your kind words about [[Unification of Germany]] and [[Cologne War]]. I have finally finished my dissertation so will have time now (I hope) to contribute more to Wikipedia. Cheers! [[User:Auntieruth55|auntieruth]] [[User talk:Auntieruth55|(talk)]] 00:06, 13 December 2013 (UTC)


== Thanks again! ==
== Thanks again! ==


Thanks much, Gerda, for the reprise of your award. It's refreshing and encouraging to encounter some kindness amidst the bellicosity, irrationality, and bigotry that I frequently encounter. [[User:TimidGuy|TimidGuy]] ([[User talk:TimidGuy|talk]]) 12:02, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks much, Gerda, for the reprise of your award. It's refreshing and encouraging to encounter some kindness amidst the bellicosity, irrationality, and bigotry that I frequently encounter. [[User:TimidGuy|TimidGuy]] ([[User talk:TimidGuy|talk]]) 12:02, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

== A "country"? ==

You are not alone in having info' box problems [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:England_and_Wales#Country_infobox '''England & Wales''' is NOT ''"a country"''] Cheers! <strong>— &#124; [[User:Gareth Griffith-Jones|Gareth Griffith-Jones]] &#124;<small>[[User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones|The&nbsp;Welsh]]</small>[[Special:Contributions/Gareth Griffith-Jones|Buzzard]]&#124; —</strong> 11:11, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
:With the new arb committee, I expect my "problems" to be smaller ;) - By now I smile every time when someone asks to remove a complete infobox or reverts it because one parameter is debatable. - I almost never insert nationality, did you know? "The only real nation is humanity", - I miss the one who has that in his edit notice (link in mine), --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 11:37, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

:: I had not realized that even adding the [[:Category:Biography articles without infoboxes]] is taboo now for classical musicians and composers. It is a sad day for information science. The argument reminds me of people who argue that an analogue recording on vinyl is a superior listening experience. Here they argue that the lack of structured information enhances the reading experience. It appears they are writing the articles for themselves, rather than for the general Wikipedia readership. I think most readers, including myself, come to an article to answer a specific question, or get a quick general sense of who a person is, if they have not come across the name before. My guess would be that 90% of queries are answered by the lede and the infobox. That is why Google provides exactly that information in [[Google Now]]. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|talk]]) 19:13, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
::: Sorry, I saw your comment only now. Where was this? When I read an advice above I thought about what would happen if I applied it to Verdi - only theoretically, of course ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 16:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)


== Merry Christmas ==
== Merry Christmas ==


You are an amazing woman ... Gerda - I hope you and your family have a fantastic Christmas. All my hugs. — [[User:Chedzilla|<small><font style="color:#000080;"><b>Ched</b></font></small>]][[User_talk:Chedzilla|<font style="color:#FF0000;"><b><i>ZILLA</i></b></font>]] 00:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
You are an amazing woman ... Gerda - I hope you and your family have a fantastic Christmas. All my hugs. — [[User:Chedzilla|<small><font style="color:#000080;"><b>Ched</b></font></small>]][[User_talk:Chedzilla|<font style="color:#FF0000;"><b><i>ZILLA</i></b></font>]] 00:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

== [[Template:Did you know nominations/A Boy was Born]] ==

I don't know whether you withdrew, but why should the was/Was ruin its opportunity to be the Christmas present? Does majority care about was/Was? The fact is: the overall hook was/is good. Anybody should learn about the composition/song from Britten. This is a genius work, and you can push this "was/Was" issue aside and undo the withdrawal (or let me undo your withdrawal). --[[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 05:57, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, I withdrew when my hook [[User:Bencherlite|was changed]] to something I would not sign. I don't want my name connected to an article and hook that doesn't present the published name at least once. You can nominate it, name [[user:Alfietucker|Alfietucker]] as the author. I don't want credit. My boy was not born. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 07:07, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
:: {{done}}. I take credit, and you were removed. [[User:George Ho|George Ho]] ([[User talk:George Ho|talk]]) 08:20, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
::: I thought you should have opened a new nomination. You called my shame pride, well, what can I say? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 09:05, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
::::Gerda - having been away from my computer the last couple of days, I've only just discovered your withdrawal from the A Boy was Born/A Boy Was Born nomination for DYK. I'm very sorry to see this, particularly as it does seem to me (though I to a degree share your POV on the title) that whether it's 'Was' or 'was' is a relatively trifling matter. What really matters is that you have created an article (with just some minor additions by myself) which highlights one of Britten's earliest masterpieces and provides good, succinct information about it. People will discover soon enough that the work is widely presented with a lower-case 'w'; on the other hand, for instance, Faber & Faber opt for an upper-case 'W' both for the published diaries ''Journeying Boy'' and the Humphrey Carpenter biography, as does Dent in Michael Kennedy's ''Britten'' biography - so Wikipedia's MOS is actually in quite good company. At the end of the day, we're creating an encyclopedia which is being created democratically with just a few rules which the community is expected to abide by, which includes an MOS to decide on several issues thrown up by the unruly English language! Speaking for myself, I think it is better that all editors abide by these few hard rules, rather than getting so upset in the belief the rule is absurd to the extent that an editor won't promote their own good work.
::::In short, Gerda I wish you would rejoin me as the official author of the article. Nobody will blame you for the fact the 'W' is capital rather than lower-case (and, as I've mentioned, Wikipedia's MOS is in good company in this instance): it's just how things go when an article is written collaboratively in a democratic way with just a few firm rules we're supposed to follow. Please join me. :-) [[User:Alfietucker|Alfietucker]] ([[User talk:Alfietucker|talk]]) 16:07, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
:::::Thank you for thoughtful words for my soul. I am able to abide by rules if they make a little bit of sense. To prefer a house rule over the composer's choice doesn't. We make those rules more or less democratically, no? I would try to question it, but now it's Christmas time, I would rather write nice personal letters. We also have IAR, no? - I thought I was well prepared early, - quite unusual for me ;) - I said twice that I could accept the MOS title if the article explained once that it is not the title published. No answer. I inserted it myself and was accused of disruption. At that point the boy was still-born for me, perhaps you understand. My name is in the history, I also still list it on my user page, but that is it. Now I will turn to the letters mentioned ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt#top|talk]]) 19:45, 21 December 2013 (UTC)


== Holiday Cheer ==
== Holiday Cheer ==

Revision as of 21:54, 30 December 2013

Did you know ...

Welcome!

Hello, Gerda Arendt, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Graham Waterhouse, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted. ... --> Again, welcome! Hell In A Bucket (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Archive of 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013

Flowers and sapphires

Go Gerda Girl

You do great work and I love it! Don't let Tony get to you. Ihre Arbeit ist grossartig. Weiter schreiben, eien lange Zeit. PS, I really liked the article about the church the communists blew up. BarkingMoon (talk) 11:50, 19 June 2011 (UTC) Sehr geehrte Gerda, I have a watch on your page since a few weeks ago. I approved and moved 167 to holding for June 24.BarkingMoon (talk) 12:11, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keine Problem. Koennen Sie ueberpruefen DYK Noel F. Parrish? Danke. BarkingMoon (talk) 12:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Later, yes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See my talk page. Thanks so much! BarkingMoon (talk) 11:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
On 30 December 2011 the article became a GA, thanks to Ched, PumpkinSky and MathewTownsend, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:40, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flowers!

Wonderful comment
For your wonderful comment, cutting right to the heart of the matter! cmadler (talk) 13:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For a true gem of a person ...

words of reason and trust
To quote you: Thank you for speaking up with decency and fairness, treating editors as living people, — Ched :  ?  15:58, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

almost forgot one thing

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For being one of the nicest people I know, on-Wiki or off. 184.59.31.77 (talk) 18:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC) (Khazar)[reply]

Cherry Impact event barnstar

The Cherry Impact Event Award
I hereby award Gerda Arendt this Cherry Impact Event Award for the global impact your incredibly delightful sweetness and extraordinary talent brings to all of us!

. Dreadstar 07:01:00, 4 March 2012 (UTC) [reply]

Standing Strong

When the Ill Winds Blow No Good
I saw this image and thought of you and all you've done to help PS and Khazar. You are a bastion of refuge when the storm clouds come in, and I for one would like to thank you. Don't worry about people talking behind your back - as they say, "sticks and stones". Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:13, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

uh, a tree for you

Tree award? These have to be "awards"?
Hi, Gerda. I was editing Desivojca, and it has this nice tree photo from the "Komani neighborhood", so I figured it should be seen more. Enjoy. Alarbus (talk) 15:55, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do, I love trees! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
Thank you so much for your help fixing up "Move Like This"! Your kindness and expertise is greatly appreciated! 28bytes (talk) 18:06, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! My pleasure, for a change: „Keep on Knocking“, „Sad Song“, „Free“, „Drag on Forever“, „Just What I Needed“ - just what I needed, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:26, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence

The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence
I am pleased to award this MBE to you in recognition of your outstanding work on Wikipedia. Your numerous DYKs have achieved the noble goal of highlighting culture on the Main Page. Your work with other users is exemplary, and you're one of the nicest Wikipedians, always supporting and encouraging other users. Thanks for all of your superb contributions! MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 19:14, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - I was tempted to say "Blushing", but every time I say so the user is gone a week later, I don't want to miss you also ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
ps: I would like to share this award with my br'er Rabbit, the incarnation of selfless service to this project ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:15, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Your not saying it seems to have worked – it's been a week and I'm still here! I just finished my latest article (my first in a long time). It's about an artist who was born and raised in Germany and was very interested in music. For some reason, that made me think of you.... MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 22:01, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say it, as much as I was tempted! - Thanks for staying with me, and for the article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:25, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Knock on wood, as I blushed as well recently ;) Muggeseggele is still facing extinction while the Mans parking was guided so well to DYK by our fairy maiden - Glückauf Serten (talk) 10:23, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You found #1, I blushed three more times, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First ever Wiki Angel Award

The Wiki Angel Award
Gerda, es macht mich glücklich, dir den ersten Wiki Angel Award geben. Du bist ein true Wiki Angel und feine Dame.PumpkinSky talk 18:13, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you!!! (blushing again, see above) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

... I'd make a Wikilove thingy ...

... with a pretty picture, but I'm lazy so instead you'll have to settle for text" Barnstar

Hi Gerda,

I saw your note on my talk page. Thanks for the kind words, and for being so refreshingly pleasant and un-bitter all the time. An inspiration to us all. I'm sure I'll see you around eventually, but probably won't be for a while yet. Enjoying my time away. Cheers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:56, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I enjoy refreshing apparitions, also I am in a good mood, after singing Bach for more than two hours, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

nice edit notice ;)

A Halloween present from Wikipediocracy on my eighth anniversary. Best wishes. Mads Lange (talk) 09:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

nice comment, peace maker - I pass free treats today, Reformation, even the Bach cantata got a pumpkin + I like sharing, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
peace GA ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 7 October 2013 (UTC)== Some baklava for you! ==[reply]
I'm not by there very often, but today I saw the recent kerfluffle at AN/I and thought you could use some sweets. Lest you think this is all selfless, though, I brought a second fork. Care to split it? -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:33, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, sweet of you, - I would share with Andy first if his doctors allow. Day by day I hope the thread autoarchives (havn't looked today), - I am sure his doctors allow no stress ;) . Did you see the list of 18 discussions "drowning" a project? - Everybody who takes an unbiased look is welcome to share the baklava! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox request

Work your magic, if you have a few minutes: A Song for Simeon.--ColonelHenry (talk) 23:55, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Did you know that Simeon is among my images? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Infoboxes clarification request archived

Hi Gerda, the infoboxes clarification request in which you were named as a party has been closed and archived. The Committee clarified that acting on behalf of a restricted user to breach a restriction is WP:PROXYING and so is not permitted. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 00:39, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PROXYING, which is a policy says "Wikipedians in turn are not permitted to post or edit material at the direction of a banned editor (sometimes called proxy editing or proxying) unless they are able to show that the changes are either verifiable or productive and they have independent reasons for making such edits" (my emphasis). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:38, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Jahrhundertring

The DYK project (nominate) 17:17, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Really glad to see this cultural milestone make it into the encyclopedia and onto the front page too. Well done! Whiteghost.ink (talk) 03:19, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, see my memories :) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

nothing secret here

Hello Gerda, nice to meet you. Are you really the Notorious Infoboxen WikiCriminal that has been terrorizing the music articles?  :-)   As you can see from my first posting on AGK's talkpage, up above the duromac thing, I am *also* a notorious wikiCriminal. Or at least, notoriously silly (AGK blocked me -- then later unblocked me -- when they mistook one of my not-all-that-funny jokes over on the Bishzilla talkpage).

But my actual question for you is this -- I did not really understand your reply to me.

(watching) Simply thank you! (I would use the button, but it doesn't work for IP. Also there's nothing secret here.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:06, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Well, okay, I understood the watchlist part, and the thank-you part. You are surely welcome. <bows>

But what button and what secret thing are you referring to? I do login as an IP, of course (you can call me 74 if you like), but User_talk:Clover1991 has registered a pseudonym; they are the one submitting the article, not me. Maybe the link to the 'secret' thing in my message was was confusing -- it is just a pokemon character, one of many not-very-notable-toys which has a long article in mainspace, badly in need of cleanup, and short on reliable sources. The pokeman-article is not related to the Duromac thing, directly, I was just using it as a metaphorical example of how wimpy our deletionist-standards are when something is 'popular' to some degree in the english-speaking-world. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 14:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

74, nice to meet you! (Feels like Lohengrin, no real name ;) - But then I'm a friend of 28bytes, also no real name but heart and reason.) - First: yes, I am the terrorizing witch, only nobody told me so far what that terror is, I see no evidence, hear only echoes of former wars. You enter a battleground: you are a warrior, - easy. Sparrow Mass: after gracing seven Schubert masses with an infobox I continued with Mozart, interesting story followed ;) - Now to your question: between registered users, there's a function where you simply click a button for an edit and have thanked the editor who made it, and it's more or less secret between the two. Sometimes I use it where I would not do it in public ;) - I wanted to thank you for your diligent research and the way to present it, I watch AGK since this, more recently this, - the former was more fun ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate your thank-you, kind and gracious humanoid. 74 does count as a name of sorts; think of it as a jersey number.  :-)   Since I am an outsider, and have only heard rumors of the Dread Infoboxen Wars, you should take my nutshell explanation with a grain of salt...
infoboxen oh nohz!
  The story seems to be, that some editors who are very particular about *appearances* (the visual layout of the article and the style of how wikipedia appears to the readership) ended up annoyed at infoboxen *generally* as too data-oriented or too formal or too something, long before your arrival. So, when you came along with your wikithusiasm for spreading tightly-summarized knowledge, these visually-oriented editors mistook your love of the readership, with a crime of passion! <gasp> Personally, I never read the infoboxen, except in articles about chemicals, in which case I often *only* read the infobox-data. There is a new project, called WikiData, that has the potential to satisfy both yourself (e.g. there can be wikidata that the composer was born in YYYY that is easily accessible to readers *without* necessarily changing the page-layout) and the visually-oriented style-conscious editors; it is still in beta phase, and seeing the shape of what it will become is difficult at this point, but I have high hopes.
  Anyways, what it boils down to, is an *artistic* argument about aesthetics: does the page LOOK COOLER without the infoboxen, or with the infoboxen? As with any argument about looking fashionable, there is always going to be more heat than light, more noise than signal, and so on. The arbcom decision to make infoboxen illegal, and you a notorious wikiCriminal, was a deeply flawed pragmatically-motivated attempt to keep talkpage decorum, to end the endless aesthetically-motivated edit-wars, and in general decide the fashion-question by fiat. The problem is that they ended up compromising our deepest principle, the encyclopedia anyone can edit, which boils down to Liberty. (The second, unstated, half of the principle was also run over with a tank: Liberty and wikiJustice for all.)
You can see the same kind of respect-my-authoritah problems elsewhere, with the ever-growing list of Arbitrarily Enforced Discretionary Sanction topics (which will soon cover half of mainspace), the ever-growing list of semi-protected pages (the encyclopedia only Real Contributors can edit), and in so many other ways. The rising authoritarianism is deadly[1] to wikipedia... growth in active editor-count ceased years ago,[2] and has been steadily declining since. WMF has proven they are unable to help us,[3] so we have to solve this one ourselves.[4] Part of the *motivation* for draconian pragmatic arbcom decisions that violate the-encyclopedia-anyone-can-edit, is purely and simply that no arbcom member, no admin, and few semi-admins-using-twinkle-huggle-stiki-reviewer-rollbacker-etc can spare the time to follow the five pillars. They are busy-busy, rushing from fire to fire, and there are no reinforcements coming, whilst the readership grows and grows and grows.
retention oh yehz!
  This busy-busy crap leads to brusqueness, template-spam on user talkpages, ban-hammer first then let somebody else sort out the bodies, and most damagingly to aristocratic cliques and an us-versus-them caste-system wikiCulture. Worst of all, it is a vicious cycle where we shoot ourselves in the foot, every single day: nobody spares the time to be nice to beginners, so they leave, wikipedia is no damn fun. That means we'll *never* get reinforcements, we'll *never* be less busy-busy, we'll *always* suffer from steadily declining WP:RETENTION.
  Okay, enough whining: I am quite sure the problems can be fixed. We need to have a vast influx of new blood, and the only way to do that is by making wikipedia fun again. I am forming a not-a-cabal, which will rule the wikiverse with the iron fist of friendlyism, and force wikipedians to enjoy themselves here whether they like it or not. You are cordially invited to join.  :-)   The not-a-cabal runs on a shoestring at the moment, holding brief meetings in the back alleys of the wikiverse on various user-talkpages, plus some of our agents have infiltrated the staid and prestigious halls of the WT:WER... but with any luck soon the not-a-cabal agents (colloquially known as WP:NICE nazis) will be everywhere.
  Our goal is simple: steady inexorable growth of editors that contribute at least 5+edits/month, from the current 31k-and-falling figure today, to one million for enWiki. The trick is to make sure they are 99% Good Eggs, which means we have to assume that at least 1% of humanity is basically good -- enWiki has a couple-few hundred million uniques per month in terms of readership, at the moment. My core assertion, and key assumption, is simply that way more than 31k of those people are Real Contributors; if we want them to stay, all we have to do, is simply to keep from driving them away.
We get literally 1000 new editors every month! Problem is, we lose 1050 editors, every month; that *must* stop. Thanks for listening, and thanks for improving wikipedia. p.s. Upgrades,[5] unofficial tutorial,[6] and the 'official' helpdocs,[7] too. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 13:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for sharing elucidation! The infobox story goes back to 2005, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Thank you for your cogent arguments on infoboxes for all biographies, so the "look and feel" of Wikipedia extends to all people. The arguments against them for certain classes of people is just silly. I love the way you have collected their specious arguments. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 23:55, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, it's nice to feel understood ;) - did you vote? - here's another collection of arguments, the candidates speaking for themselves, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:02, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, apropos of Mark Williams-Thomas, why don't you simply add the parameter needs-infobox = yes to the {{WikiProject Biography}} template on the talk page? It will put it directly into a category, where many more editors will see it, and it is more, shall we say, "straightforward" than this sort of tactic. Voceditenore (talk) 19:03, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I tried straightforward, here and here, - and your way might get someone in trouble without a warning, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:27, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
ps: the most straightforward story of where helping can get you is here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Placing an article in Category:Biography articles without infoboxes is not, in my view, requesting proxy editing on your behalf (or more specifically Andy Mabbett's behalf in this case). It is simply stating a fact, "this article has no infobox". Any editor can act on it (or not) without "getting into trouble" after evaluating the article and without reference to the specific editor who added the article to the category. That is much more in keeping with both the spirit and the letter of your ArbCom restriction and subsequent clarification than going to an individual editor's page, giving them a "Precious Award", and then following it up by informing them that you are looking for someone to make a proxy edit for you if they are "unafraid of arbcom sanctions". Voceditenore (talk) 11:41, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for pointing out the possibility of the talk page request which I didn't know. I would like to use it a lot, but who am I to say "needs an infobox", ever? I was told again and again that it's a content decision by the "principal author". I didn't mark the straightforward approach you mention above as humour, sorry, I thought it was obvious, - my only weapon in the battle against absurdity ;) - Who created Victor Bruns? The one who formatted a machine translation? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"I would like to use it a lot, but who am I to say 'needs an infobox', ever?" I'm not following your reasoning at all, Gerda. Or perhaps you meant that humourously? Every time you suggest an infobox on an article talk page complete with a fully filled-in model for someone else to add (as you did at Talk:Mark Williams-Thomas, Talk:Grange Court, Talk:Ach wie flüchtig, ach wie nichtig, BWV 26, Talk:Wilfred Byng Kenrick, etc. etc.) you are saying the article needs an infobox. There's no difference between that and simply adding the "needs-infobox" parameter to a project banner instead. As for who created Victor Bruns, it was the person who made the red link turn blue by adding, formatting, and referencing a machine translation of the equivalent German Wikipedia article, i.e. Dr. Blofeld. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:39, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No. Possibly I have a language difficulty. "Needs" means - at least for me - a different thing than "I suggest". I believe that every article would we be better with an infobox, but to my (admittedly failing) memory I never said that an article needs one. - Failing memory: I remembered working on the Bruns article so well that I failed to check the history. - I stopped pointing out my restrictions on article talk pages: what would our readers think? - I suggested infoboxes for Andy more than for myself because I believe that his restriction - not to add infoboxes to his own articles as if he was in conflict with himself - is absurd. - On a hike, I thought that humour also helps a bit to cope with loss, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:33, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The clear implication to the reader of someone "suggesting" the addition of an infobox to an article and pasting a complete mock-up of it on the talk page is that in their view the article should have it. Otherwise, why on earth would they suggest one? On the other hand, the needs-infobox = yes parameter actually displays on the talk page as:
'"An appropriate infobox may need to be added to this article." [my bolding]
There is no essential difference between the two in terms of their implicature or in terms of the speech act they encode, i.e. an indirect request for action. Trust me, I wrote a textbook for beginners on pragmatics . Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:33, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Voceditenore, thank you for clarifying and teaching! I would not have imagined that a parameter "needs an infobox" would translate to "may need to be added", which is more careful. But it's still not what I would say. No article "needs" an infobox. I show by an infobox on the talk page that in my view an article would be better with one, and I spare another user the time to design it. - I will try your approach on Gabriele Schnaut, but first need to add substance to the article, - and I need to learn this language better ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Listeners/readers don't simply translate words into their literal meaning when interpreting language and acting on it. They make inferences as to what the speaker/writer intended by their utterance. Scenario: You walk into the kitchen where Signora Voceditenore is doing the weekly ironing. You have a wrinkled shirt in your hand and you'd like her to iron it for you because your landlord has forbidden you to use an iron yourself. You could say any of the following (in descending degrees of politeness/indirectness), but they would all be interpreted by the Signora as you basically requesting her to iron the shirt:
  1. I think this shirt would look better if it were ironed.
  2. I'm looking for someone to iron this shirt.
  3. I suggest ironing this shirt.
  4. This shirt needs to be ironed.
  5. Iron this shirt!
The Signora will do one of two things. She will either iron the shirt or refuse to iron it, but she won't have misinterpreted your intention. There will be several factors which will influence her decision to comply. How you phrased the request is probably the least of them. Signora Voceditenore (talk) 13:15, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nice scene! I play the role of the Signora now: I would iron the shirt if the request addressed me personally: "Can you please iron this shirt? I would do it myself but I am not allowed to ... You could help me.", and I might be quite deaf to the above ;) - Unfortunately, the parallel doesn't work, because on an article talk, I don't like to talk about my shameful "not allowed" (now it says even "ban"), and I can't address someone personally. When I say "I am looking for someone", I don't mean a specific person. - Please check the singer, there's more now. I will look for better sourcing for the recordings, copied from the Spanish Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again!

Thanks much, Gerda, for the reprise of your award. It's refreshing and encouraging to encounter some kindness amidst the bellicosity, irrationality, and bigotry that I frequently encounter. TimidGuy (talk) 12:02, 13 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

You are an amazing woman ... Gerda - I hope you and your family have a fantastic Christmas. All my hugs. — ChedZILLA 00:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Holiday Cheer

Holiday Cheer
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Very welcome, thank you! - I will not send individual greetings but publish my music on 24 December, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

From London

St. Paul's Cathedral...
Merry Christmas, Gerda, and a very happy music-filled new year! Voceditenore

Thank you, much appreciated! (Our choir listened to an evensong there in 2006.) I started today with the Bach cantata premiered on 22 December. Thank you for the help above, the ironing lady ;) - I tried the approach for Gabriele Schnaut (don't know if it would have worked eventually, kosboot was faster). Is there a similar way for compositions? Did you see "sad day" above? (I missed that, but am not surprised.) My Christmas music is prepared, one more rehearsal tomorrow, spirits high, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Holiday Cheer
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inspired by this - you could do the same
See this trout .... imagine a hammer thrower at the Olympics .... I'm taking a spin, I'm getting faster. Its going to be a record throw ..... I just have to let go of it (Damn! forgot!).... thwack! .... I deserved that trout! :-)
You managed to amuse me ;) - Returning from a service with Wachet auf as a postlude, the one that was in the [unprintable] until recently ;) - Summer in winter below also pleases me, pictured quirky hook doesn't happen so often, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:29, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seasonal greetings




Christmas greetings for 2013 and best wishes for 2014. Peace on earth and goodwill to all

May you take pleasure in all you do and find success and happiness
Brianboulton (talk) 21:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Glad Tidings and all that ...

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:05, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, glad after singing, rehearsal for Christmas Eve, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas dearest Gerda!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:41, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

thank you, on its way - also to you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!

A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!



May 2013 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals!

All the best

Gavin / SchroCat (talk) 20:45, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, joy, happiness and peace to you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings


Merry Xmas!

Best wishes for a great Christmas, and for a happy, healthy and prosperous 2014! Pdfpdf (talk) 13:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you, merry it is, see top, - hope for you, too! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nadolig hapus

I feel blessed, thank you, spirit! I return the wishes with our music (on top), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely beautiful!! Thank you, Gerda. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:30, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Two years ago we did this one, - just returned from the service, singen singen could go on forever, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:45, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Many thanks for your kind thanks - and a special award to you for maintaining calm and rational thoughts all during the stormy turbulence of the past year. May the future hold brighter things! (And thanks for all the help you provide!) kosboot (talk) 14:21, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much, Gerda! You were so kind to take care of the nomination. I had gone out to buy some and when I got back, you had done your magic.

Ein gesegnetes Weihnachtsfest! And of course, Joyeux Noël! Voceditenore (talk) 15:32, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas...

and Happy 2014!
Wishing you a happy holiday season, Gerda. Rosiestep (talk) 00:44, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Merry Christmas and best wishes for a happy, healthy and productive 2014!
Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:28, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Christmas dinner
Christmas dinner
Machinima of Santa Claus's reindeer filmed in Second life

Imploring that Dear Gerda enjoys a sumptuous Christmas holiday and a naughty New Year! First play this → → →

Now play this!
I dare you to tell me that you did not smile.


I have just played this. Wonderful. Thank you for the link.
Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 01:54, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A Merry Christmas to you...I hope you have a good holiday...Thanks for all the good cheer that you send out to others herein. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 04:47, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Gerda Arendt, I hope you have a Merry Christmas and hope your day is full of the true spirit of the day.
Plus, good food, good family and good times. :) Have a Great Day! :) - NeutralhomerTalk06:46, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
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Spread the joy of Christmas by adding {{subst:User:Neutralhomer/MerryChristmas}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

DYK for A Boy was Born

Harrias talk 12:02, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A Holiday Turkey!

Enjoy it ;) - Listen to the above, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Happy holidays

Happy Holidays! Hope

you

are having a wonderful time!
From Hafspajen (talk) 15:44, 24 December 2013 (UTC) 12:15, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do. No snow, but brilliant music, see above, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Me too. (Sing in a choir ). You are alt, sopran, mezzosopran... solo? Hafspajen (talk) 22:58, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am alto, able to help soprano II, if soprano is divided but alto is not (as for many English pieces because there were many boys while the men had to be paid). What's your voice? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:40, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ahm, I don't know. Hafspajen (talk) 16:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and Happy New Year
Merry Christmas, Gerda! Thank you for making this year on Wikipedia more fun, educational, and productive. May this coming year bring you love and peace. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:25, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, especially for mentioning the fun part ;) (At times it was called absurdity.) Singing, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:35, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I hear and sympathize. Yet you made Wikipedia more fun for me, anyways, and I am grateful. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:42, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think we mean the same, absurdity can become funny ;) Did you see the talk of A Boy was Born where people seriously argue about whether the published composition title should be mentioned? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:54, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merry Christmas, Gerda. Let's hope all Wikipedians show a little more good will in 2014! --Bermicourt (talk) 18:28, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Goodwill toward men (pictured) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:52, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours. ```Buster Seven Talk 15:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Happy music above, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Patrice Chéreau

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Patrice Chéreau you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jburlinson -- Jburlinson (talk) 23:41, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey.

Appreciative gesture; gratitude. DS (talk) 14:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Many Thanks

I want to thank you for the kind Precious award dealie you left in August. (Alas, I've not been on the site much at all lately. This has been a rough week for me as a writer, and I can't tell you how lovely it was to find your considerate words waiting for me here. Kudos for being so thoughtful and positive. Scartol • Tok 19:49, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely, considerate, thoughtful, positive: that's you, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]