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::::I've just done a search on the <nowiki>http://econlog.econlib.org/</nowiki> page. Vipul Naik comes up 99 times as being mentioned. He, like many other readers, makes reader comments about blog posts originated by the 5 Econlog bloggers. Here is one from September 26, 2012: <nowiki>http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2012/09/somin_on_libert.html</nowiki> "Very interesting, thanks!" Vipul Naik himself is not a blogger on Econlog. – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 19:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
::::I've just done a search on the <nowiki>http://econlog.econlib.org/</nowiki> page. Vipul Naik comes up 99 times as being mentioned. He, like many other readers, makes reader comments about blog posts originated by the 5 Econlog bloggers. Here is one from September 26, 2012: <nowiki>http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2012/09/somin_on_libert.html</nowiki> "Very interesting, thanks!" Vipul Naik himself is not a blogger on Econlog. – [[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 19:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
::::: And he spammed it multiple times - virtually every article that he edited or wrote where it could possibly be crowbarred in, it was. And there are articles that had five or more External Links to econlib, but none to any other think tank. There is no doubt in my mind that this has been abused, whether through zealotry or whether it's spamming is pretty much immaterial. Oh, one more thing: were you going to mention at some point how many of these links you added yourself? <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 22:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
::::: And he spammed it multiple times - virtually every article that he edited or wrote where it could possibly be crowbarred in, it was. And there are articles that had five or more External Links to econlib, but none to any other think tank. There is no doubt in my mind that this has been abused, whether through zealotry or whether it's spamming is pretty much immaterial. Oh, one more thing: were you going to mention at some point how many of these links you added yourself? <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 22:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
* Incidentally, {{link summary|econlib.org}}, {{link summary|libertyfund.org}} and {{link summary|econtalk.org}} are all the same organisation. There is a lot of abuse of these links, some of which may well be innocent - example: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Parabola&action=history], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_Chodorov&diff=prev&oldid=774363497], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virtual_representation&diff=prev&oldid=774364158]. I am pretty sure that neither Chodorov nor Adam Smith published in the "library of economics and liberty". Out-of-copyright sources should be linked to Wikisource or Gutenberg, not think-tanks. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 22:51, 7 April 2017 (UTC)


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    revitalisecosmetics.com.au

    Being spammed into a bunch of articles in replacement of valid refs; see Special:Contributions/Moefry1. Zero value as a reference for any encyclopedic content. Jytdog (talk) 04:48, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jytdog: no Declined for now, user is blocked. However, if this is now continued on other accounts, I will blacklist this immediately. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    specificationtech.com

    specificationtech.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

    Also:
    plus Added MER-C 03:11, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    arabic-keyboard.info

    arabic-keyboard.info: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
    2604:2000:71C2:0:5D33:3CF9:BA1B:12E9 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • robtex.com • Google) diff #1, diff #2
    2604:2000:71C2:0:D42A:4F01:BAA2:F7EF (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • robtex.com • Google) diff #3
    2604:2000:71C2:0:F530:80EC:DB07:9C1F (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • blacklist hits • AbuseLog • what links to user page • COIBot • Spamcheck • count • block log • x-wiki • Edit filter search • WHOIS • robtex.com • Google) diff #4, diff #5

    The diffs are from the past few days only, when I've kept track of them, but I know I've seen them before. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 16:44, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    plus Added MER-C 02:59, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Note:
    maimed this report, and hit the blacklist on this link. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:30, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    csgopedia.com

    csgopedia.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

    @Justeditingtoday: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:44, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    trendinghour.com

    trendinghour.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

    Non WP:RS website that is being actively spammed by IPs and throw-away accounts (as external links with no, or at most very little, relevance for the articles they are being added to) on multiple articles, at a slow rate for at least six months now but at an increasing pace over the past few days, with at least two IPs adding links to the site yesterday and another two so far today. All of the thirty-some links I found doing an external links search today (most links that have been added seem to have been removed at sight by any editor who noticed it, but there are always some that slip through) have been removed by me, but they keep on coming... - Tom | Thomas.W talk 14:57, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Thomas.W: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 17:47, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Terrorist propaganda

    Hi could you blacklist ISIL terrorist propaganda websites from Wikipedia :

    Also, could you remove the diff from the history ? Regards. --Panam2014 (talk) 15:33, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Panam2014: Sure, that is possible, can you please list the websites here (inside a {{LinkSummary}} template). I notice that many of these edits seem to set the 'official website' of the subjects of the page - we generally do list them, and while we do not agree with the content necessarily, we do not censor them. I could however agree that this is better done with a more neutral landing page on the sites (generally an about page), which should then be whitelisted after these all have been blacklisted. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:49, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra:The links brought by these opportunistic ip addresses are often dead after a few days, which shows that these websites are clandestine. Furthermore, many countries of the European Union prohibit their nationals from consulting these sites. I do not know what it is in the USA. But contributors and readers can not be endangered by prosecution. --Panam2014 (talk) 10:12, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Panam2014: if they are dead after a couple of days, then blacklisting them is an advanced form of whack-a-mole .. in a couple of days they have a new link (as witnessed with Al-Bayan (radio station).
    Would you mind creating a list of the domains, I'd like to have a second look at them. --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:32, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra:The national domain often changes but the addresses always start the same. --Panam2014 (talk) 10:41, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Panam2014: You mean, the TLD just changes but not the name. That is more convenient. Can you make the list. --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:43, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: I have an error message :"The following link has triggered a protection filter: bayanradio", "payanradio", etc. Now, could you delete the diff form the pages ? --Panam2014 (talk) 10:47, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Panam2014: You tried to post the full links, just leave off the http://. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra T C 14:49, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Beetstra:

    -- Panam2014 (talk) 14:55, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Formatted for readability. --Dirk Beetstra T C 17:10, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Panam2014: These have been blacklisted already on meta, see diffs -  Defer to Global blacklist for any future requests, cross-wiki problem. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:34, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I am copying the list to meta, linked to a log. It was blacklisted because of edit on fr.wikipedia. Any future domains (all tld's on these '3' domains have been blocked now) should be reported to meta. --Dirk Beetstra T C 09:58, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    kaitlyn.co.in

    A link to an escort service. Keeps getting added in various places. Primefac (talk) 19:06, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Primefac: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:43, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Kinkstudio.info

    Redirect to blacklisted kink.com. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:29, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Beetstra: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:29, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    lyricsbright.com

    I've blocked the editor as a spam-only account. If this returns, then this can go swiftly on the blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:42, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    OK, thanks! Jytdog (talk) 03:48, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Note that the editor was also active on de.wiki, refspamming. I think I will pull the trigger on meta if they insist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 04:07, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    populartoday.us

    spam, spam .. --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:32, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Beetstra: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:32, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    relatedlists.com

    Spammed at the moment is kenya.relatedlists.com, but I can't see much use of the parent either. --Dirk Beetstra T C 04:54, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Beetstra: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 04:54, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Proposed removals


    khamagmongol.com

    hi, unblock please khamagmongol.com i can not add link khamagmongol.com/tuuli/tales for kalmyk fairy tales — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.177.254.202 (talk) 17:59, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @81.177.254.202: no Declined, this is blacklisted on meta, a set of these links including this one was spammed across mulitple wikis.  Defer to Whitelist for specific links on this domain . --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:39, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    mobigyaan.com

    mobigyaan.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

    Dear Administrators, I cite mobigyaan.com along with other websites once in a while whenever I feel it's worth doing that. I have been their regular reader since last few years. Today when I tried to add the link I got a message that the domain has been blacklisted, I couldn't understand why it happened as this website is an authentic news source. Requesting you to look into this and remove it from the blacklist.

    PS - Since, I haven't done this earlier I didn't know that mention of user name of necessary for the replies. I used to update without login.

    Pixel love (talk) 10:38, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Why am I not getting a reply? Pixel love (talk) 19:09, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    It was blacklisted per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/mobigyaan.com, the report shows an very unhealthy number of IPs who solely edit to add info referenced to this site (WP:REFSPAM). I am sure User:MER-C can tell more. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:15, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    That, and when I added the domain to the blacklist hardly any of those additions had survived. I certainly don't remember removing any links, and my contribution history shows I didn't remove any when I blacklisted the link. MER-C 04:34, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't about all the IPs but I made a few additions without login as I find that easy. Also, I didn't add all the references on a single day, I cited them only when I found something made sense. So, what I am understanding is that somebody tried to add too many links from some IP and got this website banned, is that the case? Pixel love 09:19, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, please reply. Pixel love 03:22, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Pixel love: You mean that you made those additions using 40 different IPs out of at least 3 IP-ranges? --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:57, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I think that there is some confusion here. I don't know remember how many additions I made, I mentioned that I made a few additions. I didn't make a user account as I felt that it was easier to do without it. This was the first part of my answer.

    In the second questioned I asked, if posting from IP can result in ban, then isn't it easier for anybody to get any website banned.

    Also, I am a little confused about the reason of the ban. This is solely for my knowledge about the Wikipedia usage. If posting to wikipedia without login resulted in ban for this website, then I have done this for other websites as well, will those sites be banned as well? Pixel love 14:44, 09 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    No, but additions by 40 different IPs that all are practically reverted may be. I guess that you were one or two of the separate IPs. For the rest, see Joe job, and in a way it is not really our concern, our concern is to stop the disruption. --Dirk Beetstra T C
    So, this website should not be removed from the blacklist? --Pixel love 08:44, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Please reply --Pixel love 07:08, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pixel love: there were additions by 40-ish IPs, and most of the additions were already reverted/removed .. that signifies that these additions were not wanted. We are not here to play whack-a-mole with more IPs and keep reverting such additions. If you think that it is somewhere of use, please request whitelisting of specific links with specific use ( Defer to Whitelist), but until significant use of this site is evident, indeed delisting is no Declined. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:12, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    My point here is that may be somebody tried to play a mischief, I have been a loyal reader of them since last few years and they are one of the most authentic news source in India when it comes to technology news.I know I don't have any say here, but I just tried to put my point of view. Considering the quality of news they produce on daily basis, they shouldn't be banned. Those link which you think/know are spam should be removed for sure, but banning entire site because somebody else abused the system would be too harsh. I hope you will consider this. --Pixel love 08:55, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    What happens off-site is not our problem, the purpose of the spam blacklist is to protect Wikipedia from people adding unwanted external links. In any case, the links did not seem very wanted, most of them were already removed. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:58, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    You are saying that links are removed, but I saw this link today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiaomi#cite_ref-63, you can also check that there is no spam here and the link was properly added. --Pixel love 12:55, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    You are right, all properly added by the spammers, I guess more cleanup is needed. --Dirk Beetstra T C 21:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you trying to be sarcastic? --Pixel love 11:34, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    No, no sarcastic intent. Those links that are still there were missed in the original cleanp, as they were spammed as well. --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:20, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    econlib.org

    I copy a thread from WP:HD.

    Any attempt to edit Apartheid seems to be rejected. The reason given is that the article contains a new link to banned site econlib.org (or something close -- I may have gotten it wrong. The edits I have attmpted don't include anything remotely close to that. Can somebody find out what's wrong and fix it? In the See also section, I was trying to add a wikilink to Born a Crime. Lou Sander (talk) 04:31, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

    I can't explain what's going on. When I try to do the same thing (both with my non-admin sock and my main account), I get MediaWiki:Spamprotectiontext and a warning about econlib.org, even though that URL isn't in the page text. Nyttend (talk) 04:59, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
    Even weirder: I removed econlib from the spam blacklist and then tried to insert the link, and even then I got rejected because my edit added "econlib.org". Time for a Phabricator bug request? In case you wonder, I've restored the blacklist entry for econlib. Nyttend (talk) 05:03, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

    Can anyone explain what's going on? See [16] for URL removal and click "next" for restoration. JzG, you comment about that URL in a thread higher on this page; are you at all familiar with the situation? I'm not asking for "permanent" removal; I just wondered if someone more familiar with this blacklist might have a better idea than I of how to remove it temporarily to enable this edit. Nyttend (talk) 05:08, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Lou Sander: I am taking it off for now, but lets see what happens (see follow up edit). Maybe some lag-time? minus Removed from MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:12, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    econlib.org. Test edit to see whether this can now be saved. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:13, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Removing and re-adding seems to work now. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:16, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I am removing a large number of inappropriate links to this partisan website at the moment. It was extensively spammed by a group of libertarian agenda editors. Guy (Help!) 12:00, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @JzG: I agree that it got spammed with many other links, however, there are now remarks about this specific one from that set of links above (both in that thread and this thread) as to being genuine. Maybe this is one for XLinkBot? --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:49, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    EconLib is the "Library of Economics and Liberty", run by Liberty Fund, a libertarian think-tank of no obvious significance. I suspect that most of the uses of this source right now are inappropriate. I removed the links from the Apartheid article. The issue is that many (most?0 of the links are to an online "encyclopaedia" of economics published by this group. It's another fisheaters. Guy (Help!) 12:57, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Liberty Fund isn't really a think-tank, it's primarily a publishing house. One of the things they publish is the Concise Encyclopedia of Economics which is an excellent reference work on a wide variety of economic topics. The first edition was published in 1994 as "The Fortune Encyclopedia of Economics: 141 Top Economists Explain the Theories, Mechanics, and Institutions of Money, Trade and Markets". Later editions got more concise - including the title - but kept the general theme of being, well, an encyclopedia. The essays are indeed written by top economists, including several Nobel prizewinners. The latest print edition is 2007 but an earlier 2002 edition is online for free which is REALLY USEFUL in fleshing out economic topics...or would be if it weren't on the blacklist. Can we get this fixed? (in addition to the Concise Encyclopedia, it's also a good place to find lots of older webbed public-domain econ texts. Bastiat, Mills, Adam Smith and so on.) Blogjack (talk) 08:56, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Blogjack: we do not need to link to a site because they have an online version of an older version of a real book. We have ISBNs for that, which should give the interested reader access to copies of the book, and may even give links to online copies of said book. My question now basically is, how big is the spamming problem of this specific site (User:JzG?)? --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:20, 29 March 2017 (UTC) (screwed the ping: @JzG:). --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:21, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    How big is the spamming problem? Hard to say. There are dozens of articles from Vipul and associates (Vipul has blogged on econlib), many of them are primary-sourced opinions by a fellow econlib blogger. There are also a lot of examples of test by Keynes, Mill and others presented as being published by the "library of economics and liberty", when they are in fact merely hosted copies of public domain works published by other people. Would you source copies of the works of Hayek, Keynes and the like to the Margaret Thatcher Foundation website? I don't think so. Think tanks are part of the dark money ecosystem, designed to obfuscate political activism and conceal the sources of funding.
    And yes, they are a think-tank. The Orwellian title is a dead giveaway. Guy (Help!) 22:03, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Comment: econlib.org probably shouldn't be on the blacklist. It contains the full text of many classical economics texts. Jrheller1 (talk) 20:58, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    • ... which are public domain and should be on Wikisource, not presented by links to a libertarian fundamentalist website. Rather like the issue with religious fundamentalist websites republishing out of copyright texts and surrounding them with editorialising and links and other material that drive an agenda. Guy (Help!) 21:55, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    This is not appropriate to blacklist in its entirety. Surely dealing with the actual spammers is the first move - David Gerard (talk) 23:21, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @David Gerard: "Surely dealing with the actual spammers is the first move" .. sure, but lets entertain the idea that multiple IPs are spamming econlib.org, and that they do their utter best to get this linked in any form. Are we here to play a game of whack-a-mole, or to build an encyclopedia. If this stuff is spammed, this should be blacklisted. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:15, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Are the spammers associated with the website? Is the spam effort a deliberate and co-originated effort by the website? It may be hard to tell. Is there any legitimate use of the site by non spammers. For example, three assumptions of neoclassical economics are referenced by an article written by E. Roy Weintraub on econlib (www.econ lib.org/library/Enc1/NeoclassicalEconomics.html). Actually, the term 'neoclassical economics' is more contested than the article makes out. That's not to say the libertarian view should be removed altogether. I believe there may be some legitimate uses for the site as long as the bias is noted.Jonpatterns (talk) 12:20, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    'Are the spammers associated with the website' .. who cares, our job is not to punish the owners of the website, our job is to stop disruption to Wikipedia. Most porn websites are NOT spammed, not even by their owners. However, editors do disruptive edits with those sites so much that we blacklist them, and have several attempts at disruptive editing a day. Totally in the realm of our tools to stop this. As for econlib, some of these porn sites have legitimate use. And we have mechanisms for that legitimate use. For nearly anything on the spam blacklist there is legitimate use, but the spamming problem is outweighing that legitimate use. What I have seen of econlib, is that there are in many cases better alternatives, or that it is superfluous altogether (you allude to similar for your one example). --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:53, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm by no means a right wing libertarian, quite the opposite (check my history). I may not like much of what econlib.org publishes, but as an economist, I can appreciate the quality of many of the articles in the Concise Encyclopedia of Economics. For example, the article on Keynesian economics (which I can't link, because of the blacklist) is by Alan Blinder, a professor at Princeton with a named chair, who was President Bill Clinton's Council of Economic Advisers. However, the quality is patchy, as there are some unreliable articles as well. Perhaps a whitelist for links starting with "www.econlib.org/library/Enc/" so that articles from the Concise Encyclopedia of Economics can be referenced, with a caveat that the reliability of the articles depends on the author? Thanks, LK (talk) 07:42, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Lawrencekhoo: That is a very legit consideration, and such an analysis would make me whitelist that link immediately, as possibly the one above suggested by Jon. Our goal is not to stop legitimate sourcing, it is to stop disruption. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:53, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Lou Sander: no Declined,  Defer to Whitelist for specific links on this domain. I see hardly anything left in mainspace, and very little resistance against removal. Alternatives exist (ISBN for real books, etc.), and whitelisting can handle the rest for now. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:51, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    What does this mean? E.g. "{{Declined}}". Is Econlib.org still restricted in some fashion? The website was added to the blacklist by a patently POV inspired admin and I am shocked, shocked! that this problem persists. – S. Rich (talk) 06:25, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Srich32977: It was blacklisted after an AN/I thread unanymously suggested to block an SEO spammer out of an editing ring who was spamming this and other links. I still think that for much of this alternatives exist (using blogposts on such stes as references .. if there are no better sources), or it can be plainly sourced to the original work through regular Linking. For the rest, there is the whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:29, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I think you got some of the facts mixed up. Econlib was added to the Blacklist on March 10, long before the massive deletrions thread was opened (March 26–April 2, yet to be closed). I think you are referring to the Vipul gets paid thread of March 9–15 and User:Vipul. HOWEVER, that thread does not mention Econlib. (Also see the User talk:DGG thread of March 13–17.) Rather, it seems that Vipul has done editing on a variety of topics since 2005 (and declared his COI by listing his COI edits). A few years ago, when he was at the University of Chicago, Vipul started the [https://openborders.info/] blog, and Bryan Caplan mentioned it on his (Caplan's) Econlib blog. (But I find no evidence that Vipul is connected to Econlib.) Well, User:JzG has taken it upon himself to remove any and all Econlib links in WP because the tenuous non-connection between the evil Vipul and Econlib. (And in so doing JzG often wipes out whole paragraphs containing Econlib links, even when those paragraphs contain other material supported by other RS.) Shamefully, JzG abused his admin privileges by adding Econlib to the Blacklist while the discussion about Vipul was underway. JzG's motivations are clear from his edit summaries and discussion posts – he is anti-libertarian. So two things ought to happen: 1. Remove Econlib from the Blacklist so that editors can link high-quality, original material from Econlib; and, 2. Admonish JzG for letting his POV get in the way of neutral admin'ing. – S. Rich (talk) 18:20, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I've just done a search on the http://econlog.econlib.org/ page. Vipul Naik comes up 99 times as being mentioned. He, like many other readers, makes reader comments about blog posts originated by the 5 Econlog bloggers. Here is one from September 26, 2012: http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2012/09/somin_on_libert.html "Very interesting, thanks!" Vipul Naik himself is not a blogger on Econlog. – S. Rich (talk) 19:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    And he spammed it multiple times - virtually every article that he edited or wrote where it could possibly be crowbarred in, it was. And there are articles that had five or more External Links to econlib, but none to any other think tank. There is no doubt in my mind that this has been abused, whether through zealotry or whether it's spamming is pretty much immaterial. Oh, one more thing: were you going to mention at some point how many of these links you added yourself? Guy (Help!) 22:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    womanitely.com

    womanitely.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

    useful blog I think it shouldn't be on the blacklist. Many writers from the US contribute to it. Catalina520 (talk) 14:14, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Note that this is blocked on the m:Spam blacklist and user has already raised it over there. Ravensfire (talk) 18:01, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Catalina520: not blacklisted locally,  Defer to Global blacklist to request global removal (where you already raised it), or  Defer to Whitelist to ask for local whitelisting of specific links. Note that this blog was mainly spammed by several ranges of IPs over a significant timespan, and the few (3?) genuine additions where all questionable in use as references- blogs do generally not pass our thresholds for reliable sourcing. I think this is rightfully blacklisted, and would suggest that you first show merit for specific links on specific pages through whitelisting. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:21, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    themoviedb.org, tmdb.org

    themoviedb.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com , tmdb.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

    No explanation given for blacklisting in 2008. Site is functional and does not appear to contain any offenses. Please advise. Jason Olshefsky (talk) 15:12, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Jason Olshefsky: no Declined, it was back then spammed by someone who was involved with the site, who was just here a couple of months ago to create a userspace draft for an article on the subject (which, when moved into article space (with a history on its own) was deleted through AfD). On the forum of the site fans showed the incentive to add links to tmdb, and some of them tried (as witnessed from the blacklist). The site does not give any information beyond what is already in articles (imdb is similarly superfluous on many articles where it is linked; that was particularly true for cases where the editors from the forum tried to add the links). If there are cases where the link is particularly informative and needed, specific whitelisting can be considered. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:45, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    bathtrams.uk

    bathtrams.uk: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com Please can this site be de listed - its a legitimate non profit site promoting re tramming in Bath. I dont see how we can be spammers since we dont sent out any emails???

    Thanks

    Engineman (talk) 19:52, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

     Not done because there is nothing to do. @Engineman: bathtrams.uk does not appear on either the local English-Wikipedia blacklist or on the meta-blacklist. I can link to it just fine: http://bathtrams.uk
    What are you seeing that suggests it is blacklisted? ~Anachronist (talk) 20:02, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Engineman: The definition of spam is wider than just sending emails, it is also unsolicited pushing of information or webpages. WP:SPAM will tell you what Wikipedia defines as spam.
    You've been repeatedly hitting the blacklist because you were copying the link from the google search result page. Those are Google tracking links sending you to the webpage, not the address of the actual webpage itself. You have to follow the link from the Google result page, and copy the address from your browser's address bar. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Engineman: I will add, however, that you absolutely should never add a link to your own organization in a Wikipedia article. You have a WP:Conflict of interest (read it). It is best, if you want a link added, to propose the link on the talk page of the article. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:49, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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    Is it possible to tweak the blacklist to allow the addition of a specific petition to an article? The scenario I'm thinking of is that the founder of a notable hashtag campaign opened a petition that has content that would be beneficial to link to - letters to the petitioners and updates on the founder's activist activities, according to the student. I know that the domain name is blocked, but I didn't know if there was a way to allow just one link.

    I've recommended some alternate options, but I was generally curious as to whether or not this is possible. I always thought that once the domain was blocked it was an all or nothing type of deal, but better to ask and know, right? Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:36, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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