User talk:Gerda Arendt

March

willow blossom
... with thanks from QAI

despised and rejected

singing the praises of
the scuttled the banned and those who have just given up

Raymond Arritt
go on with life, have a laugh, don't get too upset over this

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ITN recognition for Amos Oz

On 30 December 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Amos Oz, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:58, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Carsten Koch (musician)

On 1 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Carsten Koch (musician), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Carsten Koch conducted all Beethoven symphonies at the historic Unionskirche, and shared Bach's Christmas Oratorio there in an ecumenical project (performance pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carsten Koch (musician). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Carsten Koch (musician)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Bach cantata notation

thanks for correcting me on my edit to the new year cantata article, however now seems that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis (and other articles of works with both notations) needs a clarification on that same point. 94.253.248.92 (talk) 09:33, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Go ahead, do it, wherever you read that the traditional BWV numbers are of the past. I am busy, so can't help, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben, BWV 147a - when I see it in articles I watch I correct it. Today, I have several more urgent things to do ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:59, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

2019

...Als festlich hoher Gruß, dem Morgen zugebracht! Many thanks and very best wishes to you too. I am still stuck in the 16th and 17th centuries. The Belcea played the Cantabile from op. 130 wonderfully at the Wigmore Hall and I haven't quite shaken off the reverie yet. Why should I want to? Eebahgum (talk) 21:41, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Indeed ;) - Monteverdi for us next, - come 1 September, you'll like it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks and congratulations

Dear Gerda
Thank you for your New Year greeting, and how appropriate to have Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht as the featured article. Your contributions here are priceless.
best wishes, --Michael Goodyear ✐  ✉ 22:46, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, so are yours, regarding Hannah Arendt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:49, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

I came here to say mostly the same thing as Michael. Congratulations on starting the new year with a featured article! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 23:08, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Au hasard Balthazar

Atheist or not, this is a perfect rendition of spirituality. It's better understood if one has already seen the movie. Hint: The donkey is a Saint. Best wishes for 2019. LouisAlain (talk) 18:32, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Gert Westphal

On 5 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gert Westphal, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Thomas Mann's widow (couple pictured) praised Gert Westphal for the authenticity that he brought to his recitations of Mann's novels? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gert Westphal. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Gert Westphal), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Raymond Arritt

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:01, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the good news, Panyd, and good to see your name again. I wanted this hook for 1 January, including its good resolutions, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, by the line - which brought him to my attention - that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? Happy New Year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. Happy New Year to you too.Thoughtfortheday (talk) 15:45, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Arritt had a great beard and a wonderful smile. I'm sure I would have liked him. Finetooth (talk) 18:24, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

So am I. I forgot to mention that he wrote the ultimate guide to arbitration, - if only I had known that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:33, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the Happy New Years card! Felt good to get stuck in on DYK again and I loved the quote! Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 10:31, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

You're funny!

Hi Gerda Arendt, A funny thing happened this morning. You thanked me for updating my user page. LOL! You've made my day wonderful. Yes, I added the infobox purpose link just in case someone asks me why I keep doing those boxes. SWP13 (talk) 02:19, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

SWP13, I can't do them, so am happy if others do ;) - I thank a lot, DYK? I even made thanks a main topic for this year. It's good for me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:24, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Schicchi

I didn't know other Wikipedias were not trusted sources since I've seen references for using translated materials. More interesting to me is the difference between the two Schicchi images: same costume, but one is sly and sleek, the other cheerfully spry and clownish. Thank you anyway. Cheers! Shir-El too 20:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

PS as you love music, suggest you look up "BIRD SONG OPERA" - and have a Good Year! Shir-El too 20:43, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Shir-El too, translating is fine, but it needs references. Translate an article without coverting them to inline citations, and you get into trouble, - just ask LouisAlain. The police is more after new articles than established ones, but Gianni Schicchi is a featured article = highest quality class. The Italian Wikipedia should have an independent source that can be used, instead of citing only that Wikipedia. And if not, you can hopefully find one ;) - Thank you for the bird song opera! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Adding: the topic "infobox" is hot, - I won't know why. I try to stay away, and recommend to avoid discussions. You will hear the same things again and again. My thoughts were written in 2013: help those who don't read English so well, are vision-impaired, need a certain information fast, - it doesn't hurt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

2019

Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019

music and memories

Never too late to wish someone a Happy anything. I am looking for a time & a place of honor for the sapphire. Thank you again. X1\ (talk) 21:42, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello

Hi Gerda. It's me really, alt account, don't ask! Whilst trying and slightly-failing to take a break I have done one good thing on-wiki – please see a lovely new photo of Emanuel Hurwitz that I just added a day or two back. Well when I say new, I mean yes obviously Manny died 12+ years ago so new to the article! But I do feel it's nice to have. It's not even a good photo technically but I do like what it captures. Thanks for the messages – I have emailed you in Real Life or what I like to think of as somewhat related thereto. Cheers DBaK-photo (talk) 21:37, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing. Reminds me of my earliest days on Wikipedia, when I filled the red link for a friend whose father was a member of the Melos Ensemble, and then created some more about other members, receiving nice comments from their relatives (the violist and an oboist). Hurwitz, however, had an article already, so I didn't touch that much. Today I'm expanding a hymn, and what do I read in one of promising sources? My older version of the article ;) - It's in honour of my dad for whose funeral we sang it, as for weddings in the family. He died some 15 January, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Thank you for Henri Hinrichsen. I appreciate your work. Always. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:48, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, - couldn't believe he had no article yet. It's only a translation, in my Reger series, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:22, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben, BWV 248 IV

On 23 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben, BWV 248 IV, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben (Fall with thanks, fall with praise), Part IV of Bach's Christmas Oratorio for New Year's Day 1735, celebrates the naming of Jesus? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben, BWV 248 IV. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fallt mit Danken, fallt mit Loben, BWV 248 IV), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:01, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Wilma Lipp

On 28 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Wilma Lipp, which you updated and nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:30, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Werner Bardenhewer

On 30 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Werner Bardenhewer, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a clinic in Mopti, Mali, is named after Werner Bardenhewer, born 90 years ago today, who was for decades priest of St. Bonifatius, Wiesbaden, and then founded a charity group? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Werner Bardenhewer. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Werner Bardenhewer), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:02, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks...

...for your kind words. GiantSnowman 08:52, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

You are welcome, - I have a box for the rejected above, and hope it will stay short this year, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness

I just wanted to thank you for all you do on Wikipedia. I don't really understand why people get so up in arms about things. In the end, I think most users are here to contribute, and people need to let things go, and focus on not getting overly angry. My personal philosophy is that if it's something I really care about enough to make me angry on Wikipedia, it's something I shouldn't be editing; if I feel tempted to attack another editor, I simply leave the site until I am calmer. Anyways just wanted to say, if you ever want help with awards and stuff, let me know-- I have a lot of free time. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:16, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Lovely, Eddie, thanks for the encouragement. Just the other day, I said when someone really annoyed me (on the German Wikipedia) that life is too short to get angry over it. (I still think it was unfair, though.) Sure, you can help me with awards. You can look today (because I have no specific one in mind) if someone deserves Precious, check if they already got it, then please no ;) - Then you look at their contributions, from when to when, articles, especially of higher quality, something nice they said, helpful they did, - and word something, put in the template you can find on the talk. Then add it to the archive (Recent), saying by you. Want to start with something more mechanical? Do the 10 year anniversaries. In 2009, three people gave "Awesome" awards, Rlevse began in 2008, Bibliomaniac15 in January, and Dylan620 in March. So typically, 2–3 people could be given the template which you can also find on the talk. I did it for today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:52, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

After looking around I think that user:zawed is deserving, and hasn't gotten it yet... let me know what you think and I'll word the template Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:16, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Good choice! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Will be up at their talk page momentarily- feel free to ce. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:30, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

I did, to match style: no link in header, one sentence, avoid repetition. - I try to make a header so that I when looking in a year, will remember, - your's - cute as it is - told me nothing, sorry ;) - You may want to look at User:Kasuga for tomorrow, awesome ten years ago but not yet precious, while the 2 authors of tomorrow's TFA have it already, - that's where I look first. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:50, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Eddie, I looked: the present Kasuga joined only 2015. Find out if s/he was the same as 2009, or find someone else ;) - Today also requests moving last month to the bottom. I am quite busy today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:11, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

The Kasuga from 2015 is now Kasuga~enwiki. I will try and get to it but might only be available at around 2:00 EST (7:00 UTC) Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 11:56, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Done- You can ce if you feel the urge... I think User:animalparty could be a possible recipient to come... Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:51, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! I try to be a little longer, but never mind for a user who left ... - I try to add the user name in the edit summary, in case I eventually want to find an edit in the history, but of course we can simply go by date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Good choice, the animal party. Can go tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:29, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

sounds good! Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:44, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Eddie891, perhaps Mike Searson today, 10 years awesome, several FAs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Mike Searson done Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:22, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

• Would you like to join me in keeping the lights on WP:TRM for 48 hours here while TRM is blocked? it just is looking for errors in the main page, and the readers will thank you (even if they don't know it). Don't feel like it you need to. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 02:17, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, but. Firstly, sad about the block (but saw it coming). Secondly, extra sad because I came to celebrate a birthday, Mendelssohn, on said Main page, will sing two of his pieces (clever choice by Roman Twardy for his debut), want to write an article on at least one, so: little time. It's on my watch anyway, - I'll do what I can. Block noted in the sad box above. What did I write about collegues just a little below. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Could Chris G be today? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:21, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes! Could you do the 10 years also, please. Just copy from the talk, and change the link for the Bibliomaniac one. Busy ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:43, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, sorry, got a bit caught up, but I did the precious-- see you did the 10 years Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 22:25, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! No sorry needed, - it's all voluntarily. I almost did it myself, but see that Chris G was little active recently. Had enough other things. Singing was called a "good premiere". I should eventually update the choir's article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:29, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

I won't be able to get to award anything today... too busy with real life :( Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:20, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Same for me, birthday concert above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

I did one, so late that it fell on 5 Feb. Want to do Pedro? 10 years today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

I did it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:03, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't realize that it could be awarded twice a day if necessary... I can get tomorrow in approx. 50 minutes from now when it is Feb 6 Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:09, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

No tough rules ;) - I gave two a day by mistake, or in this case on purpose, and there are months with only few. As you like it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

just letting you know that I added Ray's Rules to my userpage -- Not something I do often at all, but I completely agree with them... Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:15, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

I like that! - Shoemaker's Holiday for 6 Feb suggested, TFA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:17, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Will do... A shame they had to leave in 2010 :( Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:44, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Done, along with the 10 years today Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:16, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Did 10 years ago today. SandyGeorgia archived theirs so quickly that you did it as well yesterday :) Do you have anybody in mind, or could I squeeze animalparty in today? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:12, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Yours is good for today. SG was part of what we opposed, I should have checked the history and not have templated her a third time. Understandibly, her view on TFA development is different, as she just xpressed on her talk. I have no problem giving the 10 years reminder to people who were decorated before I even joined Wikipedia. As for giving precious myself, I avoid(ed) people who supported here, - but rarely look anymore, and not strictly. If you look at our sad list, the key word is letting go. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for today's 10s. For the Bibliomaniac archive, please change the link to "Bibliomaniac, 2009", - it would be hard to find in the other's archive, on top of the other being an unwanted editor for many. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Precious

two years!

And it's my own, sort of ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Lenticel 10 y deservs, but I will do Aude for the TFA today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

maybe DannyS712 sometime soon? relatively new user, already great work particularly on scripts Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:37, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

could be tomorrow ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Ryan Postlethwaite one of these days, and Hughesdarren --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:32, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

how about ColinFine sometime? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:23, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

good choice, peace studies! - for today I have someone in mind (after the next DYK set), and tomorrow, I haven't checked yet. - March: prefer women, and people who write about women and their work. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

nothing specific today from me, go ahead if you like --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:14, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Günter Krämer

Bravo for your interventions on this one but don't put yourself in harms way. There are some happy triggers around here. I'm sorry to cause you so many troubles. LouisAlain (talk) 21:04, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

That last one wasn't caused by you, but someone who didn't look for a moment at the content, only at "no reference". You could do me a favour: when you see an article with all these details a loving fan thinks are neccessary, summarize brutally, and only what can be sourced, for a first step. Ute Vinzing was the first example, and Krämer will not be the last. - I've been through the hell of arbitration enforcement, nothing can frighten me any more. Did you know that Martin just sat his last block out, so did Joe with his last ban, - only I will not understand what good it should do to block and ban content editors. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

It has a whiff of Überwachen und Strafen in it. LouisAlain (talk) 04:55, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

... and the problem is that it's people who should be equal and colleages who do it. When missing any references, instead of writing a note, they could simply find and add one. Too practical? Less feeling of superiority? "Baking a cake is an act of love" - adding a ref the same. Do it often! (I mean everybody reading this, please.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:40, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Im Frieden dein, o Herre mein

On 2 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Im Frieden dein, o Herre mein, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when Friedrich Spitta (pictured) revised "Im Frieden dein, o Herre mein", a 1530 German Lutheran communion hymn based on the biblical Nunc dimittis, he completely changed the meaning? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Im Frieden dein, o Herre mein. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Im Frieden dein, o Herre mein), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 96

On 4 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Psalm 96, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Joy to the World" is one of the hymns based on Psalm 96, "Sing to the Lord a new song"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Psalm 96. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Psalm 96), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Barnstar of European Merit
		For tirelessly participating the WPEUR10k Challenge. 😇 JeBonSer (talk | sign) 14:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
		this WikiAward was given to Gerda Arendt by JeBonSer (talk | sign) on 14:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, appreciated! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Goldberg Variations (play)

On 9 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Goldberg Variations (play), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that George Tabori wrote Goldberg Variations as a play within a play, presenting biblical scenes satirically as a series of disasters? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Goldberg Variations (play). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Goldberg Variations (play)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Nun bitten wir den heiligen Geist

This [1] is the version I am listing to. The way the choral voices come in...wow. Ceoil (talk) 23:56, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing, - the choral Kyrie is extra, of course. Nite. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:03, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Morning. Ping when there has been more work and a further review would help. Ceoil (talk) 08:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Ceoil, yes, I will, but ... -Today, besides real life, I want to expand the boys' choir that the bishop founded who introduced "spiritual discourse and open dialogue" in his diocese (which is where I live). "spiritual" = "geistlich" is a difficult word, in German not the same as "spirituell", while "Geist" means "spirit" or "(Holy) Spirit", and "inspired" is close. Then we have the biographies which (blocked) LouisAlain started (blocked because he tried to help me, but admittedly in a way seen as disruptive, and what can I say? AGF is sometimes in short supply, as we already know), and the articles need copyediting and referencing before going to DYK (and some were sent to draft space). Then (probably also not today) I'd like to expand the article of a great singer whom I heard yeaterday, Christopher Maltman. I also want to finish the Rossini-PR. I'll see when I'll get to what I want to do ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

He he, know the feeling...so many articles and interests and so little time, and priorities change day to day. I always like reviewing your pages as it means new music, so whatever:) No pressure or rush Gerda. Ceoil (talk) 09:00, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Feel understood ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:45, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Ceoil, and then Tomi Ungerer died, and I changed all my plans ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Seems like he was an interesting man. New to me. Ceoil (talk) 00:09, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Ceoil, he made the many illustrations for Das große Liederbuch , the great songbook (really!), which I recommend to everybody who wants to introduce a (German-speaking) child to music. Now Hans Stadlmair dies whom I met and whose article I began, in 2011, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Very evocative indeed...only got around to properly looking this morning, not been a great week :( You are giving coverage to a great many significant artists and works that otherwise wouldn't be covered on an English language wiki. I hope you know people see and understand this. Ceoil (talk) 12:45, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for saying that. I just wish I'd "catch" them before they died. For those "recent deaths", typically I did nothing but add references. I saw another one on the list of nominations, but it's just too far from my knowledge, and a problem of an article, flowery prose, practically no lead, way to poor referencing ... Peter Tork. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wilhelm Kempf (bishop)

On 10 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wilhelm Kempf (bishop), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Wilhelm Kempf, Bishop of Limburg from 1949 to 1981, took part in the Second Vatican Council and introduced its innovations in his diocese, including spiritual discourse and open dialogue? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wilhelm Kempf (bishop). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Wilhelm Kempf (bishop)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Well done, Gerda, and thank you for the encouragement. You are a star! Bermicourt (talk) 20:07, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Now we should introduce open dialogue to Wikipedia ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for all the kind words on my talk page! It's exciting to see all that old work get recognized even nowadays. I can't believe it's been 12 years since I was sitting with my laptop on my kitchen table trying to conquer the world, haha. Tempus fugit! —Deckiller (t-c-l) 02:50, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Deckiller, thank you for coming over! I remember my first editing, filling a red link and thinking that would be the one and only article, only then it came with a red link for Siegfried Palm, - I couldn't believe he had no article, and ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Thought of dropping by and saying thanks as well. I used to be quite obsessed with editing until things in RL started getting a bit rough (hopefully things will change for the better). The precious messages reminds me of the cool things I've achieved in the past - there are numerous websites that currently uses images, diagrams, and information which I contributed on wiki, on their websites - mostly about renewable energy. Your periodic messages keeps boosting my motivation to return to full swing as soon as I am able to. Thank you, Gerda. Rehman 13:15, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Great to hear that, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Hans Stadlmair

On 16 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Hans Stadlmair, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Thryduulf (talk) 12:54, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for David Timm

On 19 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article David Timm, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that David Timm, the director of music at Leipzig University, recorded his Jazz-Messe together with Reger's Der 100. Psalm? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/David Timm. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, David Timm), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:01, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

200 DYK nominations

		The 200 DYK Nomination Medal
		It is my pleasure to recognize the more than 200 articles you have nominated for DYK. These, and your own articles, have helped to build Wikipedia's music pages into a formidable resource. Keep up the great work! Yoninah (talk) 00:08, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Collaboration is the secret for success here, and I am happy that more of my 2019 topics were done with others, such as opera singers with LouisAlain, and the psalms with you, among many others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

A well deserved award. I am among those who find your well written DYK articles on music interesting and informative. I see you've also recently helped to bring three articles to GA and one to FA. Precious work indeed. And your enthusiasm never seems to wane.--Ipigott (talk) 10:41, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! I have several GA noms open, - if anybody looking wants to review ;) - My enthusiasm for music is great, and so many pieces not covered, - no end in sight. Today's plan: The Deer's Cry (Pärt). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello Gerda - I've only just seen the message you left for me last month. Just wanted to say thank you very much - no, not too late at all, if anything I was rather late in seeing it :D Hope you're doing well, and all the best. Patient Zero^talk 12:42, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, as you said, never too late. I am well but people around me die. I hope you didn't miss the smile which was on top but is now further down (12 Jan), and his rules, - quite a legacy. Yesterday I began an article because another one died, and - halleluja - found an obituary today. Makes it easier, less of a puzzle. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:55, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Genia Kühmeier

On 22 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Genia Kühmeier, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Genia Kühmeier appeared as Mozart's Pamina at the Vienna State Opera and the Metropolitan Opera, and recorded the soprano solo in Brahms' Ein deutsches Requiem with Nikolaus Harnoncourt? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Genia Kühmeier. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Genia Kühmeier), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

..... sofferte onde serene ...

Hi, Gerda Arendt. Do you think there is a way of getting this across? Jerome insists on being fussy about the title, and I haven't been involved in an edit war in years, so I don't even know if my position is reasonable. While spacing may be dependent on the author's handwriting, the Luigi Nono Foundation is the institution in charge of curating Nono's output, so I think we should be following them. Do you think I should drop it here? Ron Oliver (talk) 06:52, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Ron Oliver, waking up to this, so just thought bits. I hate it when Wikipedia lets house style win over a composer's wish for a title. I fought for A Boy was Born vs. A Boy Was Born. I lost the fight for the move, but it's mentioned as the composer named it once in the article (but the image showing the printed work was not tolerated there), and in all occurrences in other articles. We could do the same here, I tried but was reverted. We should have the composer's-form bolded in the lead, because it's a redirect. --- I don't want to fight with Michael and Jerome, who are editors nos. 3 and 5 I met here, almost ten years ago, and who helped me often, which makes this even harder for me than with users I don't know. I suggest YOU initiate discussion, on the talk page, and/or on Classical music, and/or naming articles. Nutshell: If we present an article differently from the composer's wishes, it's original research, and if we don't even show the composer's version, we ignore a vital fact. I rather suggest we ignore a few rules if they lead to such a thing. A Boy was Born (written on the composers 100th birthday) ruined that Christmas for me (but was on DYK on Christmas Day in the "right" form, because I refused to show it to the world any other). --- I think "... sofferte onde serene ..." suggests a symmetry that looks wrong. Not serene, sadly. - But not a question of life and death, and yesterday's DYK hat the Brahms Requiem and Harnoncourt, on the day one of H. relatives was buried. I keep it on top for now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:50, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for ..... sofferte onde serene ...

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Vincent Boussard

On 24 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Vincent Boussard, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Vincent Boussard staged Manon for Vilnius, San Francisco, and Seoul, and I puritani for Liège and Frankfurt? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Vincent Boussard. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Vincent Boussard), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Voting on article deletion

Thought this would interest you: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arnold zu Windisch-Graetz#Arnold zu Windisch-Graetz --Epiphyllumlover (talk) 20:16, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, interested, but behind at many ends. Watching. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Lothar Zenetti

On 25 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Lothar Zenetti, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:18, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Margaret Scott (dancer)

On 25 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Margaret Scott (dancer), which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:21, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Sophie Karthäuser

On 26 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sophie Karthäuser, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that among the Mozart roles sung by soprano Sophie Karthäuser (pictured) are Ilia, Tamiri, and Serpetta? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sophie Karthäuser. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sophie Karthäuser), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

One more Good Heart Barnstar

		The Good Heart Barnstar
		Your kindness delights the hearts of your fellow editors. See www.youtube.com/watch?v=a23945btJYw JimRenge (talk) 11:01, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

BRD, FLT, infoboxes, ... (and a long gone matter)

I apologize in advance if this is valuated as intrusive, and please, feel free to delete this, even unread.

Since I noticed you being an institution here on WP, and I was even once nominated to you for being taken care of, and because I do not want to have exchanges on a TP that is THAT un-welcoming as RexxS', I took the freedom to comment here on your (watching) activity there:

I consider the action of adding that newly created box at FLT as the bold-edit, my removal as the revert, and wanted to start a discussion on the TP with an, as it appeared, very, very unlucky edit summary, that even led to me being undef'd. I am unsure whether I understand your attribution of the property "bizarre", I neither consider boldly adding, nor removing a box as bizarre, and requesting a discussion on adding a box or not appears to me as fully de rigeur. My summary was intended to be seen in the context, known to the adding author, of a box-declining gist in a discussion held at the TP of Project Mathematics. My summary was intended to reason my revert and to remind the box author of this discussion. It was not intended as requesting a discussion before being bold.

For completing the hostile scenario I describe the setting that led to me being indef'd. The author of the box mentioned me in the TfD discussion on "his" box in a list, created with the property "generally opposing to boxes". Since I consider this as defamatory (rendering me silly, at least) context, I reluctantly but effectively struck out (not deleted!) my name there. This was reverted, and vaguely acknowledged by the author. Sadly, this did not finish the matter, but Pigsonthewings, besides RexxS, another militant pro-boxer infobox-activist, rarely offering flowers, and aggressor to my mistakable summary, felt the need to template me on my TP for editing others' comments. For this I declared him as not welcome on my TP, and announced to avoid marginal striking and use the means provided for libel in the future, which did not make explicit "means provided by WP": the WP-RPA template that I had in mind. For my incomplete wording he successfully summoned me to WP:ANI for "legal threat". I will contact blocking Cullen328 when I am finished contemplating his actions. Is it impertinent to ask for your advise in this matter?

I am fully aware that we are at diametral positions regarding the placement of this box at FLT, nevertheless, I enjoy any comment. Sorry, if my English, I do not think highly about it, is really that bad as bemoaned by Iridescent. Best regards, Purgy (talk) 11:10, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Purgy, thank you for coming over, and I am sorry to read about hostile reactions. I confess that I didn't follow the long story (and even now had no time to read it all). You don't need to explain WP:BRD to me, - I had my (un)fair share of it in my wiki-life. If it's applicable depends on what defines an edit as "bold". I live on a voluntary 1RR which - if applied more generally - would often help, bold or not. It certainly saves time. When I add an infobox, and it is reverted, I drop the matter, - life is too short. I can't help thinking, though, that another chance was missed to make an article more accessible to those not so good in English, vision-impaired, seeking quick bits of information, you name it. For my simple understanding, trying to do so is a good-faith action and not "bold". - ANI: There's a discussion going on if WP:Great Dismal Swamp should be deleted, and while I believe that ANI improved since 2012 when it was coined for sad sad sad reasons, your report confirms that it still swampy there, like for the Great Dismal Swamp maroons. More background in the discussion, everybody! It's still Black history month! Use Sanddunes sunrise generously. Next time you feel wrongly blocked, you can place it on your talk ;) - For the cabal of the outcasts, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:36, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

I regret that my efforts to ask for an explanation for the relation of "bizarre" to my actions looked to you as an inappropriate indoctrination, and that others do not adhere to your motto of dropping reverted boxes. Thanks for your literature on dealing with dark ANI-matter, I am still in contemplation, and also for nudging me the right way for calling fellow editors names. I edited above accordingly. Cheers, Purgy (talk) 12:51, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

We had an edit conflict, I wanted to tell you something about accusing fellow editors of being militant, and you changed that! Thank you! - I am not sure I understand your request, which may be because of my lack of English. On the talk of RexxS (a friend of mine), I used "bizarre" just as a different word for "bold" to explain - perhaps a bit drastically - that only such edits (bizarre, bold, questionable, unsourced) should be handled by WP:BRD, with strict adherence to status quo ante, while normal edits could be discussed simply, without demanding legal proceedings. "Bizarre" was not meant to mean any of your actions, only as a description of the one ("bold"?) edit which needs to be discussed. Sorry about a misunderstanding, and perhaps there may be more? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:11, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Purgy, as I missed you when passing 2019 wishes: here, and don't miss Ray's Rules ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:00, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

- You are -so I intended- featuring on my TP is as someone who is asked (by Iridescent) to ..., let's say, do something educational to me, but hasn't done so, till then. I see if I can edit to something more unmistakably.

- I do not know about any Ray's rules.

- Thank you for seeing me worth to be included in a wishes list of yours. Take my best wishes in return, please. :)

- I always knew that it is better to have friends instead of foes, and now I had to learn about RexxS that I'd be really better off with having him as a friend. What I've seen, I can't imagine to make friends with him any soon. :|

- We seem to have something in common, edit conflicts do not belong to the most beloved events. It would appear as incoherent to me, after having stricken "militant", to use the word "hate" on this here TP. I have to admit that I do not shy away of using such words in my territory, but try to adhere to indigenous preferences. So be trigger-warned when reading my pages, and my comments in the wild. ;] BTW, I oppose to deprecating "this here" (=genau diese(r,s)), it's sort of an emphasis to me. In any case, I really tried not to disturb any of your matters, and I thought I succeeded. Sorry, if not. :(

- Most important of all is that my actions on TP:FLT are not considered as "bizarrre".

-I do however consider MarkH21's introduction of an IB as "bizarre". I tried to explicate my position here.

- Sorry, causing misunderstandings is inherent to language (Wittgenstein); nevertheless, it is my pleasure. Purgy (talk) 13:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Purgy, for Ray's Rules, you click on "here" in my last post (or on "February" on top), and search for them (12 January, if that helps). Last Sunday's gospel was love your enemies, perhaps that explains some. I was out, and am determined to do something about a Ravel composition for his birthday, - please excuse that I will postpone answering details. - On radio Hilde Zadek who just died at age 101. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:38, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Purgy, I think we had a misunderstanding (on your talk), - I told you that my motto in 2019 is "we give thanks", and you understood that I thank you. I apologize for lack of clarity. I will find something to thank you for, but the art of taking criticism is not it (yet). I'd mark that line as only partly serious, but you said you don't understand my smileys ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

The claim you understood that I thank you is untenable. I made explicit that I do not know what to make of this and, among considering other alternatives, explicitly excluded deserving thanks. No apologies are necessary for a nice gesture, and also no search for reasons to thank me. Assuming good faith on my side would spare any (even smiling) doubts on my capabilities to take deserved criticism. I apologize as soon as someone proves himself innocent or me guilty. Templating and summoning to WP:ANI (2 hours indef'd for ridiculous mistaking) are no such proofs. For politeness I will answer the open question on my TP when I find the time. Purgy (talk) 08:40, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't doubt your capabilities to accept deserved criticism. It's undeserved criticism which it takes art to take, but sorry, I didn't make that clear as I see now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

If you're going to discuss User:RexxS, User:Cullen328, User:MarkH21 and me, then you should ping us. And if you continue to make the kind of ad hominem accusations you make here, you're going to find yourself back at WP:ANI. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:50, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

As Purgy Purgatorio seems unable to take advice and drop the stick, it seems I have to correct them again. I've now read his accusations at User talk:Purgy Purgatorio #Discretionary Sanctions alert

They state "{tq|The template on my TP, which is NOT just an informational one, but puts me for one year on a watch list(!), and forever(!) leaves a marking, therefore, appears to me to have been applied for intimidating purposes. A non-official remark about the DS-state would have served the same purpose in a way more collegial manner. Adding RexxS' remark, enforcing and exploiting my above expectations: "I took considerable care to check the guidance and the logs, etc. before slapping, so it was not quite as unconsidered as it may have seemed," makes it obvious to me that he intends to intimidate me, even using my recently being indef'd for a totally skewed misunderstanding (check my claims, my guidance and not only the bare log-entry!)"

Purgy Purgatorio should have read WP:AC/DS #Alerts before committing those untruths to their talk page.

Any editor may advise any other editor that discretionary sanctions are in force for an area of conflict .. An alert ... is purely informational and neither implies nor expresses a finding of fault ... Editors issuing alerts are expected to ensure that no editor receives more than one alert per area of conflict per year.

The alert – and it's called an 'alert' for a reason – is to be considered as advice, and nothing more. It is part of a formal process and is required to be delivered in that form. I was obliged to do the checking of the logs, etc. to ensure that I didn't deliver a duplicate alert. I am disgusted by Purgy Purgatorio's baseless accusation that the alert was "applied for intimidating purposes". That's a personal attack and needs to be removed.

They state "I consider the state of the meanwhile stale discussion at TP:PMath as objecting to even creating this IB."

They state "I still do not understand why introducing an IB in one article is no bold edit, especially considering the mentioned, declining discussion on a most competent WP-project TP in charge of this topic.

They state "The declining discussion took place before the introduction of the IB at FLT. It advocated for good reasons an only "sparse use" of IBs in math articles, and denied by majority the general usefulness of this specific IB."

I've already explained to them that WP:CONLOCAL prohibits Wikiprojects from subverting policy and guidelines: "participants in a WikiProject cannot decide that some generally accepted policy or guideline does not apply to articles within its scope." The guideline is MOS:INFOBOXUSE: "The use of infoboxes is neither required nor prohibited for any article. Whether to include an infobox, which infobox to include, and which parts of the infobox to use, is determined through discussion and consensus among the editors at each individual article." Wikiprojects are not "in charge of the topic". No Wikiproject can forbid an editor from making an edit, and the discussion to decide on the presence of an infobox must take place on the article talk page. This blatant WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT is disruptive and needs to stop. --RexxS (talk) 16:04, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Since I was notified about the above text, dealing with me not dropping a not wielded stick, and going beyond the version accessible to me at my TP, I feel entitled to deposit here a link to my (hopefully) final speech in this matter. BTW, I cannot read easily a pronoun in plural form as referring to my (singular ;) pun intended) male existence. Purgy (talk) 08:50, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Seen, on my way to church, so can't check it out. - What I thought over night, and it's short: when you are warned that you are moving in a mine field, do you accuse the one warning you that it's intimidating, and stigmatizing? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:48, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Also short: If the mine-field is just a parade-ground for POV-pushers, and the warning is done in this way (and not in an unofficial, fully sufficient, not intimidating way) then I perceive them this way. Purgy (talk) 11:03, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

It wasn't anybody with a POV who decided the topic is dangerous, but the arbitration committee. (To study: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes, look for "discretionary" from the end). Opabinia regalis, I can't find when the DS for infoboxes were established, help? To my knowledge, the warning has to be formal, or can't be acted upon. Bishonen, is that right? - Purgy, take it up with arbcom. What is it you are afraid of, or do I misunderstand "intimidated"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, Gerda. "These only count as the formal notifications required by this procedure if the standard template message – currently {{Ds/alert}} – is placed unmodified on the talk page of the editor being alerted".[2] Underlining in original. But note also that people can be aware of discretionary sanctions for other reasons than having received an alert; those are listed here. Probably none of them apply to your interlocutor, though. Bishonen | talk 13:14, 3 March 2019 (UTC).

(Sigh!) I tried so hard not to exceed your attention span. "Arbitration committee decided the topic is dangerous", "dangerous, because of many pertinent POV-pushers (pro & contra)", "the warning has to be formal, or can't be acted upon", "the alerting was done in a formally correct way". All undisputed.

I wish and deserve to be in the state of being unalerted. I am intimidated, because now in the state of being warned, it can be acted upon me, immediately and without further warning. It is comparable to be sentenced with conditional discharge, it puts me under monitoring, my risk level to be sanctioned in WP is higher than before, my decorum is spoiled ... Having been informed in an unofficial, collegial way about the DS-zone would have been fully sufficient, and not intimidating. Please, note the difference between formally alerting (=intimidating) and informing (=not intimidating). I claim that the warning was dispensable. I perceive it as a hostile act that I won't react on any further. Purgy (talk) 16:01, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

We'll see. - I smiled a lot when I saw your support for keeping WP:Great Dismal Swamp. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:16, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hopefully last comment here, also as a note to self: the Discretionary sanctions for infoboxes were installed in Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Civility in infobox discussions, - a case I was able to ignore. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:22, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Landestheater Detmold

On 26 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Landestheater Detmold, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the main venue of the Landestheater Detmold was built from 1914–18, after the 1825 court theatre of the Principality of Lippe burnt down? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Landestheater Detmold. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Landestheater Detmold), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (Talk) 12:02, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Translation request

Hi, I see you are behind at many ends right now. I noticed that de:Geschichte des geistlichen Liedes auf dem europäischen Kontinent is by far superior to Hymn and Hymn tune in its historical coverage. I am wondering how you feel about translating it as a new article in English. In theory by the time you get around to it I or someone else might be around to work on the english. On the other hand, I could just run it through the machine translator, and then try to improve it from there.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:02, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for asking, but please don't count on me for that one: very technical where I will lack the terms, + long. Good luck. Francis Schonken would be your man (unafraid to list the compositions of Bach and Schubert!), but he's blocked for some months to come. Tell me how you call it, and I'll watch. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:07, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I think I'll just run it through robo-translate. It may sit in draft for a while, and that is okay. Along with this one I will put de:Geistliches_Lied_im_englischen_Kulturraum and de:Geistliches_Lied_in_den_Vereinigten_Staaten through robo-translate. Yes, there is a better coverage in that last link than Hymn#American_developments... sad, as if Germans care more about it than Americans do.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:13, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

I got History of European spiritual songs out of robo-translate. We will see how long it lasts in articlespace before someone puts it in draft.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:37, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Elsewhere, "spiritual songs" are simply hymns. Perhaps make that a redirect? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:39, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

I gave it a few links, and - reading "Christian behavior of the Christians" - recommend you take it to a sandbox. What does "Old church" mean? ... - There will be many spots where the Bible is quoted, - please make it links to our Wikisource. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:44, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

A few general notes: don't link years - have all songs in quotation marks and don't translate them - check for pipes to the original. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:53, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

After working with it for a while, I realized the article was 90% about hymns, so I went and moved it. Now I see your comment along the same lines. "Spiritual songs" is a broader term to include carols and more casual songs like those sung around campfires at children's camps. Hymns properly speaking are more objective and doctrinal in character. Some hymnals have a special section for Spiritual Songs. Yes, the machine translator does that. It means I have to go back and put the original German back in. I intend to leave the English in cases where the English speaking reader would recognize the English but probably not the German. "Old church" is what the machine translate spat out. I understand it is sometimes used to refer to the pre-Reformation church, but in this case it is supposed to mean early Church, like pre-Nicea. I hope my editing didn't block yours.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 02:26, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Great work, thank you! - The article is not clear about its sources, reads a bit like someone's work. - There's more on Luther and his transformation of much older stuff in Nun bitten wir den heiligen Geist, with sources, - feel free to take from there. - I confess that there are many 19th-century hymns I never even heard, while Luther's still get sung ;) - Have English but clearly as a translation, unless a hymn was written in English. (Plenty of thoughts on that on the talk of Ein feste Burg.) - Sorry for mixed bits of thought. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:34, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me about Nun bitten. I had never heard of a medieval leise before, so now I intend to add that in. My last response was even more mixed bits of thought. I wouldn't expect otherwise because we are communicating through text. As for English vs. German, I am of the opinion that at least when there is a wikilink to the title that makes up for half of the offense committed in terms of cultural approbation--because anyone can look up the original with the wikilink. I'm not sure how much you care about the philosophy involved, but when people but down English titles of German that is more (I think) because they believe in the possibility of analyticity--that the exact meaning can be transmitted by translation. However, I can see someone how someone who sees translation as always being synthetic could see an English title and think there is something lost by using it. Almost the same argument is had by people who prefer a literal vs. dynamic-equivalent translation of the Bible. I am of the opinion that even if something is lost in translation, it is far less than when people use the original words but change the definitions in their mind--love being shallow, faith merely an affirmation, heaven a good feeling, etc.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 16:54, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

We have one Luther hymn in English, and we have two Mozart operas in English, and one Wagner opera in English, and all others by these creative minds are in the original language. You can't say Wagner composed The Flying Dutchman, - he didn't, and if you read his article, care has been taken not to say so. We can do the same for Luther. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Prep 2

Hi, after I responded to you at WT:DYK I looked at the prep set and realized what you were referring to. Actually, that's my hook on Bracha Zefira, and I already asked the promoter to hold it for a later slot in March or even April if necessary, because the image really enhances the hook. Best, Yoninah (talk) 21:44, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

I feel understood ;) - no way I'd prefer any logo for that face! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

ITN credit

On 26 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ernst-Wolfgang Böckenförde, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:21, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Julia Kleiter

On 27 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Julia Kleiter, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the soprano Julia Kleiter has appeared internationally in Mozart operas, as both Susanna and the Countess in Figaro, and both Papagena and Pamina in The Magic Flute? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Julia Kleiter. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Julia Kleiter), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 75

On 28 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Psalm 75, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Bach set the phrase "Unto thee, O God, do we give thanks" from Psalm 75 in German to begin a cantata, and in Latin in his Mass in B minor? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Psalm 75. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Psalm 75), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Karl Lindau

On 28 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Karl Lindau, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Austrian actor and librettist Karl Lindau co-wrote The Nazi, a comedy, in 1895? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Karl Lindau. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Karl Lindau), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you LouisAlain, - without you we'd never know these people! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:38, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

These DYK pages are 90% yours Gerda. I just deliver raw material. LouisAlain (talk) 13:46, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

No contradiction, - without you we'd not know these people ;) - for March, please more women than men. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

in the colonies down under (no not the french ones)

barry manilow is a meme, as well as the firesign theatre, as well as dan hicks, as well as the goon show (all for a very specific age group and cultural framework) - to actually comprehend how these also tie in with both non sequitor and also how tom lehrer fits into it all as well and the serious issue of how irony does not fare well in current cultural millieaus that inhabit the land mass of north america - to adequately explain is beyond edit summary acceptable size or even talk page size of the honourable drmies - whatever that might actually constitute in terms of a carbon based lifeform (sorry the late douglas adams has to be heard as well) - if this is all beyond you - no problems, probably softlavender might have a better short hand way of explaining it all - in simpler terms... JarrahTree 13:55, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

I like it without understanding every bit ;) - we thank you for upholding endangered irony --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Alfred Jerger

On 2 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alfred Jerger, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that bass-baritone Alfred Jerger, who appeared at the Salzburg Festival between 1922 and 1959, created the leading role of Mandryka in Arabella, an opera composed by Richard Strauss? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alfred Jerger. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Alfred Jerger), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Lasting Impact

Gerda, I was reminded tonight of your giving me a Precious and it remains perhaps the nicest and most meaningful thing someone has done for me on Wikipedia. I have my Wiki friends who are great and who I get support an encouragement from but to have a "stranger" take the time to really look into me as an editor and capture the good I try to do here meant, and means a lot. I know I thanked you at the time but wanted you to also be thanked for the last impact. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:57, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Barkeep49, thank you for taking the time to come here and say that, blushing ;) - "encouragement" is among my favourite words --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 3 March 2019 (UTC)