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: {{In progress}} Closing RfC discussion for recording consensus. {{On hold}} Until 2 more editors are willing to close. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif">[[User:QEDK|<span style="color:#b7e">QEDK</span>]] ([[User talk:QEDK|<span style="color:#fac">後</span>]] ☕ [[Special:Contributions/QEDK|<span style="color:#fac">桜</span>]])</span> 17:41, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
: {{In progress}} Closing RfC discussion for recording consensus. {{On hold}} Until 2 more editors are willing to close. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif">[[User:QEDK|<span style="color:#b7e">QEDK</span>]] ([[User talk:QEDK|<span style="color:#fac">後</span>]] ☕ [[Special:Contributions/QEDK|<span style="color:#fac">桜</span>]])</span> 17:41, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|QEDK}} I'd like to help - only 1 more needed --[[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 19:27, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|QEDK}} I'd like to help - only 1 more needed --[[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 19:27, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
:: {{ping|DannyS712}}: sorry, nothing personal against you, but I'm not quite convinced you have the necessary experience for this task. What we need here are highly experienced editors who are deeply familiar with the relevant content policies and with the intricacies of content creation in POV-sensitive areas. Sorry, but you've been around only for six months and I can find no record of you dealing with policy issues of this complexity before. [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 08:05, 21 March 2019 (UTC)


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    The Requests for closure noticeboard is for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion on Wikipedia. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus remains unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications, such as when the discussion is about creating, abolishing or changing a policy or guideline.

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    RfCs

    (Initiated 2039 days ago on 13 January 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Suki Waterhouse#RfC on Personal life? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:16, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     On hold its pretty evenly split and hasn't had very much discussion --DannyS712 (talk) 02:09, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Relisted. Marking as {{done}}. Cunard (talk) 01:48, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2030 days ago on 22 January 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:Subscription required#RfC: Replace template with CS1/2 mechanism where possible? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:48, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2028 days ago on 23 January 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Guns, Germs, and Steel#RfC On DeLong Blogpost? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:16, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     On hold its pretty evenly split and hasn't had very much discussion --DannyS712 (talk) 01:38, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Relisted. Marking as {{done}}. Cunard (talk) 01:48, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2028 days ago on 24 January 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Review aggregators#RfC: Should the "As of" template, or some similar wording indicating that the score may have changed over time, be used for review aggregators in articles?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:48, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2023 days ago on 29 January 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Nobuhiro Watsuki#Request for comments about 2017 charges? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:48, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2023 days ago on 29 January 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Killing of Aya Maasarwe#Description of Aya nationality? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:48, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    On hold Comment no consensus yet - "Israeli" has 10 !votes while "Palestinian-Israeli" and "Palestinian citizen of Israel" each have 6. Qzekrom 💬 theythem 15:55, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2022 days ago on 30 January 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Marriott International#RFC: citation style. Matthew hk (talk) 13:55, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2021 days ago on 30 January 2019) I'm looking for the closure of the RFC if consensus has been reached. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 15:22, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2019 days ago on 1 February 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Telesur? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 06:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2018 days ago on 3 February 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:World War I#German Leaders and Hussein bin Ali? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:48, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2010 days ago on 11 February 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Venezuelanalysis? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 04:50, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2007 days ago on 13 February 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Gawker? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 10:02, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2004 days ago on 16 February 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Bustle? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 08:02, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2001 days ago on 19 February 2019) Could an experienced editor please review the consensus at Talk:Aurora, Illinois shooting#RfC: Victim names? --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:36, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    {{Not done}} - RFC is still active. There are reasonable arguments being advanced both for and against, so that the snowball closure rule does not apply. RFC left open. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Reply - @Robert McClenon:, the RFC has been open for over one week. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:39, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jax 0677: Indeed, it's been open for 16 days; but WP:RFCs typically run for thirty. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:36, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    That's what I tried to say at User talk:Jax 0677, and was told by Jax0677 to provide diffs and keep the discussion in one place, when I was trying to keep the discussion in a less public place. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:50, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Would it be possible to un-archive the RfC as the bot has archived it? Bus stop (talk) 07:30, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bus stop: You are allowed to close it even if its archived, but if you want I suggest manually copy-pasting it from the archive to the talk page, with a note explaining. --DannyS712 (talk) 08:16, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @DannyS712: I don't want to close it as I am a participant in it. I wanted it un-archived to allow further discussion. Bus stop (talk) 12:49, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 1995 days ago on 25 February 2019) Would an experienced editor please assess whether there is a consensus at Talk:Rent regulation#RfC about describing extent of disagreement and close if so? Qzekrom 💬 theythem 23:29, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     On hold the discussion has been open for 10 days and is fairly divided; RfCs normally run for 30 days --DannyS712 (talk) 05:20, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 1992 days ago on 1 March 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess consensus at Talk:Gab (social_network)#Gab Dissenter merge and close the discussion? The last comment was ten days ago. GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:18, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 1992 days ago on 28 February 2019) Since I am an involved editor, could an experienced editor please review the consensus at Talk:Johann Mickl#Community reassessment? I beleive the general consensus is to delist the article. Thanks MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:01, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2005 days ago on 15 February 2019) Would a panel of three experienced editors (or administrators if they so choose) please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Macedonia)/2019 RFC? The closure will be a bit of a minefield, with many simultaneous discussions taking place in the various sub-sections. The closure is already overdue since the closure date was set as 17 March and listed at the top of the page from the outset, a date which has now passed. This RfC was conducted in accordance with the following ARBCOM motion: [1], and its closure should conform to the motion as well. Closers might want to additionally take a look at discussions on the corresponding talk page for the RfC Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Macedonia)/2019 RFC. - Wiz9999 (talk) 11:24, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     In progress Closing RfC discussion for recording consensus.  On hold Until 2 more editors are willing to close. --QEDK () 17:41, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @QEDK: I'd like to help - only 1 more needed --DannyS712 (talk) 19:27, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @DannyS712:: sorry, nothing personal against you, but I'm not quite convinced you have the necessary experience for this task. What we need here are highly experienced editors who are deeply familiar with the relevant content policies and with the intricacies of content creation in POV-sensitive areas. Sorry, but you've been around only for six months and I can find no record of you dealing with policy issues of this complexity before. Fut.Perf. 08:05, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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    Deletion discussions

    (Initiated 2049 days ago on 2 January 2019) Would an admin assess the consensus here. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:41, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2045 days ago on 6 January 2019) Would an admin assess the consensus here. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:41, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2032 days ago on 20 January 2019) Discussion stalled since Feb 20. Looks to me like a straightforward close. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:17, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2075 days ago on 7 December 2018) Already relisted once. Discussion stalled since 25 February 2019. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:37, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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    Other types of closing requests

    (Initiated 2516 days ago on 23 September 2017) could an uninvolved editor assess the consensus on this long-standing merge proposal, discussed at Talk:Team Rubicon#Proposed merge with William McNulty (relief organization founder). Klbrain (talk) 21:47, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 1997 days ago on 23 February 2019) Could an experienced editor relist these, or assess the consensus at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2019/February? --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:38, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Stub sorting proposals don't get relisted, they stay on the same monthly page until closed. See WP:WSS/P#Proposing new stub types – procedure item 6. I'm guessing that Pegship (talk · contribs), who usually closes these, is letting debate proceed for a while longer - after all, there are still some open from November 2018. Pegship, do you want somebody else to close these? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:55, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    If anyone can determine a consensus, they're welcome to close them. I've left them un-closed just to see if anyone has more to say; if not, I'll be happy to close them by end of March, which is not that long a stretch for the (much-depleted) troupe of stub sorters. Cheers! Her Pegship (speak) 22:08, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]