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== Hip Hop requests == |
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Could you change the Hip Hop template to look more like this? |
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{{#invoke:navbox|navbox |
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| name = Hip hop |
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| title = {{colored link|white|Hip hop}} |
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| state = {{{state|autocollapse}}} |
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| bodyclass = hlist |
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| basestyle = background: darkblue; color: white; |
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| above = |
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*{{colored link|white|Breakdancing|Breaking}} |
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*{{colored link|white|Turntablism|DJing}} |
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*{{colored link|white|Graffiti}} |
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*{{colored link|white|Rapping|MCing (rapping)}} |
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*{{colored link|white|Beatboxing}} |
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| group1 = Culture |
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| list1 = |
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*[[Battle rap]] |
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*[[Hip-hop dance|Dance]] |
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*[[Hip hop fashion|Fashion]] |
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*[[Hip hop activism|Activism]] |
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**[[Hip hop feminism|Feminism]] |
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**[[Feminist activism in hip hop|Feminist activism]] |
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*[[LGBT hip hop|LGBT]] |
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*[[List of hip hop festivals|Festivals]] |
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*[[Hip hop music|Music]] |
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*[[Hip hop production|Production]] |
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*[[Hip-hop theater|Theater]] |
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*[[List of hip hop genres|Genres]] |
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| group2 = History |
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| list2 = |
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*[[Five-Percent Nation]] |
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*[[Universal Zulu Nation]] |
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*[[Old-school hip hop|Old-school]] |
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*[[New school hip hop|New school]] |
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*[[Golden age hip hop|Golden age]] |
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*[[Bristol underground scene]] |
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| group3 = {{colored link|white|List of hip hop genres|Subgenres}} |
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| list3 = |
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{{Navbox|subgroup |
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| groupstyle = background: darkblue; color: white; |
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| groupwidth = 8em; |
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| group1 = {{colored link|white|List of hip hop genres|General}} |
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| list1 = |
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*[[Alternative hip hop|Alternative]] |
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**[[Hipster hop|Hipster]] |
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*[[Boom bap]] |
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*[[Bounce music|Bounce]] |
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*[[Chopped and screwed]] |
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*[[Chopper (rap)|Chopper]] |
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*[[Classical hip hop|Classical]] |
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*[[Cloud rap]] |
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*[[Comedy hip hop|Comedy]] |
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*[[Crunk]] |
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*[[Freestyle rap]] |
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*[[Hyphy]] |
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**[[Jerkin']] |
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*[[Instrumental hip hop|Instrumental]] |
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*[[Lofi hip hop|Lofi]] |
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*[[Mumble rap]] |
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*[[Nerdcore]] |
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**[[Chap hop]] |
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*[[Political hip hop|Political]] |
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**[[Political hip hop#Conscious hip hop|Conscious]] |
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*[[Progressive rap]] |
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*Religious |
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**[[Christian hip hop|Christian]] |
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**[[Jewish hip hop|Jewish]] |
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*[[Snap music]] |
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*[[Turntablism]] |
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*[[Underground hip hop|Underground]] |
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| group2 = {{colored link|white|Hardcore hip hop|Hardcore}} |
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| list2 = |
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*[[Dirty rap]] |
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*[[Gangsta rap]] |
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**[[Gangsta rap#Mafioso rap|Mafioso rap]] |
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*[[G-funk]] |
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*[[Horrorcore]] |
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*[[Memphis rap]] |
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| group3 = {{colored link|white|Trap music|Trap music}} |
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| list3 = |
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*[[Afrobeats#Afro trap|Afro trap]] |
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*[[Drill music|Drill]] |
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**[[Brooklyn drill]] |
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**[[Jersey club#Jersey club rap|Jersey drill]] |
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**[[Brooklyn drill#Sample drill|Sample drill]] |
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**[[UK drill]] |
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*[[Latin trap]] |
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*[[Phonk]] |
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*[[Plugg (music)|Plugg]] |
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*[[Working on Dying#Tread style|Tread]] |
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*[[British hip hop#UK trap|UK trap]] |
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}} |
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| group4 = {{colored link|white|List of hip hop genres#Fusion genres|Fusion genres}} |
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| list4 = |
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{{Navbox|subgroup |
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| groupstyle = background: darkblue; color: white; |
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| groupwidth = 8em; |
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| group1 = {{colored link|white|List of hip hop genres#Fusion genres|General}} |
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| list1 = |
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*[[Country rap]] |
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*[[Electro (music)|Electro]] |
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*[[Emo rap]] |
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*[[Hip hop soul]] |
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*[[Hip house]] |
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*[[Industrial hip hop|Industrial]] |
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*[[Jazz rap]] |
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*[[New jack swing]] |
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*[[Pop rap]] |
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*[[Ragga#Ragga and hip hop music|Ragga]] |
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*[[Rap opera]] |
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*[[Trip hop]] |
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| group2 = {{colored link|white|Rap rock}} |
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| list2 = |
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*[[Crunkcore]] |
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*[[Punk rap]] |
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**[[Rapcore]] |
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*[[Rap metal]] |
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**[[Rap metal#Trap metal|Trap metal]] |
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| group3 = {{colored link|white|List of hip hop genres#Ethnic fusion genres|Regional}} |
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| list3 = |
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*[[Afroswing]] |
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*[[Bongo flava]] |
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*[[Boomba music]] |
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*[[Cumbia rap]] |
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*[[Genge]] |
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*[[Hip hop galsen]] |
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*[[Hipco]] |
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*[[Hiplife]] |
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*[[Igbo rap]] |
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*[[Kwaito]] |
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*[[Low bap]] |
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*[[Motswako]] |
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*[[Na mele paleoleo]] |
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*[[Nuyorican rap]] |
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*[[Romany hip hop]] |
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*[[Songo-salsa]] |
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*[[Stronda]] |
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*[[Urban Pasifika]] |
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*[[Vigilante rap]] |
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*[[Zenji flava]] |
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}} |
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| group5 = {{colored link|white|List of hip hop genres#Derived genres|Derivatives}} |
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| list5 = |
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{{Navbox|subgroup |
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| groupstyle = background: darkblue; color: white; |
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| groupwidth = 8em; |
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| group1 = {{colored link|white|List of electronic music genres|Electronic}} |
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| list1 = |
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*[[Breakbeat]] |
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**[[Baltimore club]] |
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**[[Florida breaks]] |
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*[[Ghetto house]] |
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**[[Ghettotech]] |
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*[[Glitch hop]] |
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*[[Grime music|Grime]] |
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*[[Illbient]] |
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*[[Freestyle music|Freestyle]] |
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*[[Wonky (genre)|Wonky]] |
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| group2 = {{colored text|white|Other}} |
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| list2 = |
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*[[Funk carioca]] |
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*[[Nu metal]] |
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*[[Reggaeton]] |
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**[[Alternative reggaeton]] |
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}} |
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| group6 = {{colored link|white|Category:Hip hop by country|Regional scenes}} |
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| list6 = |
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{{Navbox|subgroup |
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| groupstyle = background: darkblue; color: white; |
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| groupwidth = 8em; |
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| group1 = {{colored link|white|African hip hop|African}} |
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| list1 = |
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*[[Algerian hip hop|Algerian]] |
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*[[Angolan hip hop|Angolan]] |
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*[[Beninese hip hop|Beninese]] |
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*[[Botswana hip hop|Botswana]] |
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*[[Gambian hip hop|Gambian]] |
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*[[Ghanaian hip hop|Ghanaian]] |
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*[[Ivorian hip hop|Ivorian]] |
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*[[Kenyan hip hop|Kenyan]] |
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*[[Mauritian hip hop|Mauritian]] |
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*[[Moroccan hip hop|Moroccan]] |
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*[[Namibian hip hop|Namibian]] |
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*[[Nigerian hip hop|Nigerian]] |
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**[[Port Harcourt hip hop|Port Harcourt]] |
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*[[Nigerien hip hop|Nigerien]] |
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*[[Senegalese hip hop|Senegalese]] |
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*[[South African hip hop|South African]] |
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*[[Tanzanian hip hop|Tanzanian]] |
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*[[Togolese hip hop|Togolese]] |
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*[[Zambian hip hop|Zambian]] |
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*[[Zimbabwean hip hop|Zimbabwean]] |
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| group2 = {{colored link|white|Asian hip hop|Asian}} |
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| list2 = |
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*[[Music of Armenia#Hip hop|Armenian]] |
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*[[Azerbaijani hip hop|Azerbaijani]] |
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*[[Bangladeshi hip hop|Bangladeshi]] |
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*[[Burmese hip hop|Burmese]] |
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*[[Chinese hip hop|Chinese]] |
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*[[Indian hip hop|Indian]] |
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**[[Desi hip hop|Desi]] |
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*[[Indonesian hip hop|Indonesian]] |
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*[[Japanese hip hop|Japanese]] |
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*[[Korean hip hop|Korean]] |
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*[[Malaysian hip hop|Malaysian]] |
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*[[Nepalese hip hop|Nepalese]] |
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*[[Pakistani hip hop|Pakistani]] |
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*[[Pinoy hip hop|Philippine]] |
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*[[Singapore hip hop|Singapore]] |
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*[[Sri Lankan hip hop|Sri Lankan]] |
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*[[Taiwanese hip hop|Taiwanese]] |
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*[[Thai hip hop|Thai]] |
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| group3 = {{colored link|white|European hip hop|European}} |
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| list3 = |
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*[[Albanian hip hop|Albanian]] |
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*[[Austrian hip hop|Austrian]] |
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*[[Belgian hip hop|Belgian]] |
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*[[Bosnian and Herzegovinian hip hop|Bosnian and Herzegovinian]] |
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*[[British hip hop|British]] |
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**[[Celtic hip hop|Celtic]] |
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**[[Leeds hip hop|Leeds]] |
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**[[British hip hop#Road rap|Road rap]] |
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**[[Scottish hip hop|Scottish]] |
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**[[UK drill]] |
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**[[British hip hop#UK trap|UK trap]] |
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*[[Bulgarian hip hop|Bulgarian]] |
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*[[Croatian hip hop|Croatian]] |
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*[[Czech hip hop|Czech]] |
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*[[Dutch hip hop|Dutch]] |
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*[[Finnish hip hop|Finnish]] |
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*[[French hip hop|French]] |
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*[[German hip hop|German]] |
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*[[Greek hip hop|Greek]] |
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*[[Hip hop tuga|Portuguese]] |
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*[[Hungarian hip hop|Hungarian]] |
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*[[Icelandic hip hop|Icelandic]] |
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*[[Irish hip hop|Irish]] |
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*[[Italian hip hop|Italian]] |
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*[[Macedonian hip hop|Macedonian]] |
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*[[Montenegrin hip hop|Montenegrin]] |
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*[[Norwegian hip hop|Norwegian]] |
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*[[Polish hip hop|Polish]] |
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*[[Romanian hip hop|Romanian]] |
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*[[Romany hip hop|Romany]] |
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*[[Russian hip hop|Russian]] |
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*[[Serbian hip hop|Serbian]] |
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*[[Slovak hip hop|Slovak]] |
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*[[Slovenian hip hop|Slovenian]] |
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*[[Spanish hip hop|Spanish]] |
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*[[Swedish hip hop|Swedish]] |
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*[[Swiss hip hop|Swiss]] |
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*[[Ukrainian hip hop|Ukrainian]] |
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| group4 = {{colored link|white|Middle Eastern hip hop|Middle Eastern}} |
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| list4 = |
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*[[Arabic hip hop|Arabic]] |
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*[[Egyptian hip hop|Egyptian]] |
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*[[Iranian hip hop|Iranian]] |
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*[[Israeli hip hop|Israeli]] |
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*[[Lebanese hip hop|Lebanese]] |
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*[[Palestinian hip hop|Palestinian]] |
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*[[Saudi Arabian hip hop|Saudi Arabian]] |
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*[[Tunisian hip hop|Tunisian]] |
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*[[Turkish hip hop|Turkish]] |
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*[[Yemeni hip hop|Yemeni]] |
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| group5 = {{colored link|white|Category:North American hip hop|North American}} |
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| list5 = |
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{{flatlist|class=inline}}'''United States:''' |
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*[[East Coast hip hop|East Coast]] |
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**[[Baltimore club|Baltimore]] |
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**[[Music of New Jersey#Hip-Hop|New Jersey]] |
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***[[Jersey club#Jersey club rap|Jersey drill]] |
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**[[Music of New York City#Hip hop|New York]] |
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***[[Brooklyn drill]] |
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****[[Brooklyn drill#Sample drill|Sample drill]] |
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**[[Music of Philadelphia#Hip hop, R&B, and Nu Soul|Philadelphia]] |
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**[[Hip hop in Washington, D.C.|Washington, D.C.]] |
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*[[Midwestern United States|Midwest]] |
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**[[Chicago hip hop|Chicago]] |
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**[[Music of Detroit#Hip hop|Detroit]] |
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**[[Twin Cities hip hop|Minneapolis/St. Paul]] |
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**[[Music of Omaha#Hip hop|Omaha]] |
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*[[Southern hip hop|Southern]] |
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**[[Atlanta hip hop|Atlanta]] |
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**[[Memphis rap|Memphis]] |
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**[[Miami bass|Miami]] |
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*[[West Coast hip hop|West Coast]] |
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**[[Hip hop music in the Pacific Northwest|Northwest]] |
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*[[Asian American hip hop|Asian American]] |
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*[[Latin hip hop|Latin]] |
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**[[Chicano rap]] |
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**[[Latin trap]] |
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*[[Native American hip hop|Native American]] |
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{{endflatlist}} |
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{{flatlist|class=inline|style=display:block}}'''Outside the US:''' |
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*[[Canadian hip hop|Canadian]] |
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*[[Cuban hip hop|Cuban]] |
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*[[Music of the Dominican Republic#Hip hop|Dominican]] |
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*[[Haitian hip hop|Haitian]] |
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*[[Mexican hip hop|Mexican]] |
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*[[Salvadoran hip hop|Salvadoran]] |
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{{endflatlist}} |
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| group6 = {{colored link|white|Category:Oceanian hip hop|Oceanian}} |
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| list6 = |
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*[[Australian hip hop|Australian]] |
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*[[New Zealand hip hop|New Zealand]] |
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| group7 = {{colored link|white|Category:South American hip hop|South American}} |
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| list7 = |
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*[[Brazilian hip hop|Brazilian]] |
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**[[Brasília hip hop|Brasília]] |
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*[[Music of Chile#Hip hop and rap|Chilean]] |
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*[[Music of Colombia#Colombian urban and hip-hop music|Colombian]] |
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}} |
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| group7 = Other topics |
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| list7 = |
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*[[Auto-Tune]] |
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*[[Contemporary R&B]] |
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*[[Disc jockey]] |
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**[[DJ mixer]] |
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**[[Phonograph|Record player]] |
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**[[Turntablism]] |
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*[[Drum machine]] |
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*[[Hip hop skit]] |
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*[[Music sequencer]] |
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*[[Sampler (musical instrument)|Sampler]] |
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*[[Synthesizer]] |
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*[[Video vixen]] |
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*[[Partner violence in hip hop]] |
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*[[LGBT representations in hip hop music]] |
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*[[Feminist activism in hip hop]] |
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| below = |
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*{{Icon|Category}}'''{{colored link|white|Category:Hip hop|Category}}''' |
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}}<noinclude> |
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Revision as of 21:24, 20 June 2023
Please add new discussions at the bottom of the page!
I've moved earlier discussions to archive pages (as listed below). A few of the items I've simply got rid of - if I have, it's simply that it was trivial and/or stuff which has been dealt with, and is therefore no longer relevant. The deletion is not a reflection of my opinion of the writers!
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Suburbs of Dunedin
I think you have probably noticed my working through the suburbs of Dunedin adding demographics and making general improvements. You seem to have been the main author on most of these. When several suburbs are covered in the same article with redirects, eg Kenmure and Bradford being included in Kaikorai Valley, I've mostly left that structure as is. Sometimes I've split those articles into new ones, as with Concord, because the fundamental character of Concord seems at odds with Burnside. I'm happy to go back and split some of the existing multi-surburb articles, or combine statistical areas in different ways, if you think that would be more appropriate.
Kew and Corstorphine are next on my list. Should I create an new article for Kew? Should I split Forbury from St Clair? Should I combine Forbury with South Dunedin instead? The three schools in South Dunedin are technically in the Forbury statistical area. The other one that's coming up: should I split Tainui, New Zealand out of Andersons Bay, and if I do, should I split Ocean Grove out of Tainui?
You or any other editor are always welcome to tweak the surrounding suburbs or any other aspect of my edits. I don't have the local knowledge so I've probably got some things wrong.
If you post messages to me on the talk pages of any of these articles, please ping me, because I don't usually put them on my watchlist.-gadfium 04:10, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hi G - Forbury could be split out (it's probably more similar to Caversham than to either St Clair or South D in any case), and definitely Ocean Grove can be split - it has quite a different feel from Tainui. Tainui could probably combine with Musselburgh as easily as it could with Andy Bay; there'd be nothing wrong with having it as a separate article though. I originally only added them as redirects because there were so many of them and the boundaries aren't really that strict for the most part - also it would have led to some very small articles unless I was willing to put in the hard yards on research, and I was too lazy :) Grutness...wha? 05:02, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Great, thanks for the advice. I take it you don't suggest Kew should be split from Corstorphine. I'll probably add demographics to them later tonight.-gadfium 05:09, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- I missed that one! It probably could be, but it wouldn't be a priority. Grutness...wha? 05:11, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Happy Adminship!
![]() | Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Grutness! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy 17th anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! {{u|Sdkb}} talk 23:16, 15 February 2022 (UTC) | ![]() |
- Thank you! Grutness...wha? 00:20, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Cafés in the Czech Republic
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A tag has been placed on Category:Cafés in the Czech Republic indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
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- Hm. Looks like someone had emptied a bunch of these categories inappropriately. All but one of the five nominated for speedy deletion have now been repopulated. Grutness...wha? 12:15, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
A cup of tea for you!
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Just added a stub template...and again fondly remembered you...I hope life treats you well. You are still going strong I see. Time flies, really. Toodle pip :). Lectonar (talk) 13:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC) |
- Thanks for that @Lectonar: yes, it's been a while since we've been in touch! I'm here on and off, when the Real World allows... then my obsessive-compulsive side comes out and I do a few thousand edits in a week :) Hope things are fine with you! Grutness...wha? 14:51, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
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- @Salavat: Good Lord... is that old thing still in existence? I made it as a temporary stopgap 17 years ago! Delete at will. Grutness...wha? 11:05, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- Haha, must of managed to slip through the cracks. 17 years just sounds like an unimaginable time frame for anything on Wikipedia. Salavat (talk) 14:33, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
New administrator activity requirement
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Beginning January 1, 2023, administrators who meet one or both of the following criteria may be desysopped for inactivity if they have:
- Made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least a 12-month period OR
- Made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period
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22:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
State Highway maps
Kia ora Grutness - I noticed that you seem to be the user behind many of the route maps for the NZ state highway / other route articles. I'm planning on whipping up some articles in the near future for some of the red links (Thermal Explorer highway, Wine trail and so on), and was wondering whether you'd be interested in doing accompanying maps for the articles so that they're able to stay consistent? Turnagra (talk) 04:13, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Heh - that was ages ago! Yes, if I can find the template I used, I'll do that :) Grutness...wha? 07:33, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Boring -> Born
Hi there, thanks for picking up on that unfortunate typo on my end over at Nicola Toki. Nauseous Man (talk) 22:38, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- It was the funniest typo I'd seen all week! :) Grutness...wha? 02:50, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
"Red House (paris)" listed at Redirects for discussion
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- Yes, that's why I moved the article in the first place. Grutness...wha? 02:55, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Just noticed your Otago update to Template:Seismic faults of New Zealand
You are rather more active on Wikipedia than me. Once lived in house in Dunedin that in retrospect I was convinced was likely to have been built on a historic fault escarpment related perhaps to the Kaikorai Fault. If so the escarpment displacement indicated a past event of 7+ Mw on this rarely active fault. Less relevant to major faults with higher risk I was there for the 1974 4.9 Mw that brought down neigbours chimmeys ChaseKiwi (talk) 13:54, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- There are quite a few faults round Dunedin, but thankfully they are at the least dormant. You're right though - the 1974 one was a rattler. FWIW, I live out at St Clair. Let's hope there are no more 7+ quakes in the immediate future! Grutness...wha? 03:24, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed that you'd edited The Tumbleweeds recently. I happened across Ditchfield's article which, at the time, was about his brief cricket career. They're definitely the same person though, so have incorporated some details from the band article as well as the draft article that was created on Ditchfield. You might want to have a look and see if there's anything else obvious that needs adding. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:30, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hi - thanks for that. I can't think of anything else. All I was really doing was trying to save an article from deletion - the Tumbleweeds at least are worth an article, even if individual members are perhaps less so. But if Bill was also a first-class cricketer, that changes matters and his article is definitely worth having too. Grutness...wha? 03:23, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Hm. Someone must have emptied it. Ah well, so be it. Grutness...wha? 08:24, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm...we had some problems with empty categories recently, see here. Might be a glitch. Lectonar (talk) 08:21, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Could be connected, but I doubt it. It would make more sense if someone's just decided to make these categories by decade instead of by year though. Grutness...wha? 11:11, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm...we had some problems with empty categories recently, see here. Might be a glitch. Lectonar (talk) 08:21, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Source?
The fact that much of low-life is unsourced is no reason to add another unsourced statement: please add a ref. Thanks. (Feral (disambiguation) is on my watch list). PamD 07:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- The fact that it is unsourced is also no reason not to add another statement either. And I was busy hunting for some references after my network went down. I'm adding them now. Grutness...wha? 12:04, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Dignan
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- @Mccapra: If you'd taken ten seconds to look, you'd see that a vandal had removed text from the page. It has been a perfectly sensible redirect to Ó Duibhgeannáin for more than a decade. I thought there was also a guideline not to boilerplate such notices on long-standing editors (with 18 years on WP - 16 of them as an admin - and over quarter of a million edits, I doubt I need reminding about using the sandbox!) Please check a page's history before slapping a speedy deletion notice on it! Grutness...wha? 02:32, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hear, hear. Schwede66 04:43, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apologies and thanks for pointing out my mistake. Mccapra (talk) 06:30, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- No problem - apologies from me for being grumpy! :) Grutness...wha? 07:31, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apologies and thanks for pointing out my mistake. Mccapra (talk) 06:30, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hear, hear. Schwede66 04:43, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Thank you! Grutness...wha? 02:32, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Ghost/paranormal sections
Can I ask why you are adding the above to articles. Aside from the fact they appear completely uncited, I'm at a loss as to how you think doing so enhances the 'pedia. KJP1 (talk) 14:34, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- In what way does it not enhance the encyclopaedia? It is extra meaningful and relevant information about the subject of the articles. As it happens, I simply added the ones from the Paranormal Lockdown article where there was no cross-reference to the location articles. All the other locations with articles that were dealt with in that series already had similar information in their articles. Why the double-standard where some of those links are perfectly acceptable and other identical links to other articles aren't acceptable? In any case, many articles for locations which have a reputation for hauntings have information about those purported hauntings in their articles. And that information is there because it is relevant information about the locations. And before you suggest it, it doesn't matter whether hauntings are real or not - the fact that the fame of these places is in part because of their reputation is no less relevant than talking about a myth relating to a city's origin or name. As for being uncited, all the citations are in the Paranormal Lockdown article. Grutness...wha? 14:51, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Can I suggest you don’t edit war, hardly suitable behaviour. If you really want this nonsense to appear, then make a case for it on the relevant Talkpage. And Other Stuff Exists is an extraordinarily weak argument for an admin to use. Crud exists all over the place on here, because people haven’t noticed it/had the opportunity to clear it up. I remove all paranormal nonsense from every historic building article I see, unless it has at least a half-way decent cite. And mentions on TV programmes that specialise in this sort of garbage don’t constitute reliable sources. KJP1 (talk) 14:56, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Whose edit warring? I simply added references, as you suggested. Please stop deleting my perfectly acceptable additions to articles. You don't own them. Grutness...wha? 14:59, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- An admin, who thinks a promotional site for a ghost tours business, [1] constitutes a Reliable source. Wonders will never cease. KJP1 (talk) 15:23, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- So, you're ignoring the BBC source, then? By the way, are you really claiming that I am using "Other stuff exists" - a fallacious argument in deletion discussions - for adding something to an article? Not really the same thing at all. Firstly, it wasn't added as part of a deletion discussion (so doesn't apply), and secondly, any encyclopaedia should aim for internal consistency. If you wish to start a larger-scoped discussion about removing all mentions of hauntings from Wikipedia, so be it - but don't pick and choose individual articles. Grutness...wha? 01:48, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- An admin, who thinks a promotional site for a ghost tours business, [1] constitutes a Reliable source. Wonders will never cease. KJP1 (talk) 15:23, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Whose edit warring? I simply added references, as you suggested. Please stop deleting my perfectly acceptable additions to articles. You don't own them. Grutness...wha? 14:59, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Can I suggest you don’t edit war, hardly suitable behaviour. If you really want this nonsense to appear, then make a case for it on the relevant Talkpage. And Other Stuff Exists is an extraordinarily weak argument for an admin to use. Crud exists all over the place on here, because people haven’t noticed it/had the opportunity to clear it up. I remove all paranormal nonsense from every historic building article I see, unless it has at least a half-way decent cite. And mentions on TV programmes that specialise in this sort of garbage don’t constitute reliable sources. KJP1 (talk) 14:56, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
Gordon H Brown
Hi there,
I have just put up a page for Gordon H Brown the New Zealand art historian. If you have a moment could you give it a quick look to make sure there are no terrible mistakes! I wondered about using a disambiguation as there are so many Gordon Browns. If you thought this was called for I would go for (art historian). Cheers mmd
Manymanydogs (talk) 02:12, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- I'll have a look, though I don't know much about Gordon H Brown. As long as there are no other Gordon H Browns I don't see the need for parentheses, though make sure he's listed at Gordon Brown (disambiguation). Grutness...wha? 11:32, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- I've moved the page to Gordon H. Brown (with a full stop) as is standard, added a link to the dab page I mentioned, and added a group of categories. Other than that, from what I can tell it looks pretty good! Grutness...wha? 11:39, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) I've made a redirect from his full name Gordon Harold Brown and added him to List_of_people_with_surname_Brown#Art_and_architecture. And Yes, Success: he is linked from List of honorary doctors of Victoria University of Wellington by his full "Sunday" name. It happens quite often, so it's always worth adding a link from the full form of someone's name (as used in honours lists etc) and also from any other version you find in any source, or which could otherwise be likely. Sometimes it needs a dab page entry or a hatnote. Always worth then checking the "What links here", just in case you've found a guitarist or tennis player with the same name, so that some disambiguation or piping is needed. PamD 16:43, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, really appreciate it Manymanydogs (talk) 17:50, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Cheers Pam - good work all round :) Grutness...wha? 01:22, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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- And to you too! Happy 2023! Grutness...wha? 23:43, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
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- @Felix QW: Given that you're talking about an image of a Wikipedia page, it should be obvious that the attribution is CC-by-SA, as is stated on the image page. In any case, the image was only uploaded temporarily with the understanding that it would be deleted once the problem illustrated was fixed. Sixteen years ago. Why no-one deleted it shortly after its use is a mystery to me. PS - for future reference, it's not normal practice to use a boilerplate template implying that someone is new to Wikipedia's standards and policies when messaging long-standing Wikipedians (which I think I qualify as, having been an admin here for a decade and a half!) It's no biggie to me, but you will find some editors getting very annoyed about it. Grutness...wha? 13:04, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Grutness,
- Sorry for the template, and for not being clearer - the notification template is added by Twinkle when notifying editors after placing a speedy deletion tag for a file. The derivative work refers to the Internet Explorer browser rather than the Wikipedia page, and the quickest way to have it deleted now is through a speedy deletion tag. I only noticed it because it has spent almost the entirety of its 16 year existence in a clean-up category for images with disputed licensing, which I am now sifting through to clear the backlog. I could of course have PRODded it instead, which may have been clearer. Felix QW (talk) 13:09, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- That makes sense - I never even considered that the browser image would be a problem! Could probably be speedied since I'm the only editor of the image file itself - all the other edits are clean-up/deletion template adds. In any case, feel free to delete it :) Grutness...wha? 13:20, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Philip Clairmont
Hi there, I was thinking of doing a page on Phil Clairmont and found you had already done one some time ago. I knew Phil very well and would like to expand the page but seriously don't want to cause you any grief given how kind you have been to this newcomer to Wiki. Not sure how to move forward on this. Would it be appropriate for me to send you a copy of what I have? And if so what is the best way to do that? - can you look at my sandbox page for instance. Essentially I have expanded the biography and added an exhibitions section. Strangely the name Clairmont was invented by Phil's mother and not given to him until he was quite old...no idea where she got it from. Hope your New Year has started well. Cheers, Manymanydogs (talk) 21:09, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Manymanydogs: Don't worry about it - go ahead and post what you have on that page. Wikipedia doesn't work by one person "owning" a page - if you can improve on a page that's already there, just go ahead and do so - but don't be surprised if someone else comes along and edits or adds more to it again later! The only proviso I'd make is to make sure what you put there is referenced - knowing the person you're writing about is a big advantage, but it can also be a problem because anything that put there which you simply know by acquaintance and isn't referenced might be challenged as original research or conflict of interest. Other than that though, feel free to add whatever you have to the article. Happy new year to you, too! Grutness...wha? 01:47, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for that. Will check it over and make the changes later in the week. Manymanydogs (talk) 02:30, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- No prob :) Grutness...wha? 02:31, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for that. Will check it over and make the changes later in the week. Manymanydogs (talk) 02:30, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Princes Street, Dunedin
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Spring (season) events in Kosovo
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- Someone seems to have gone around emptying all of these seasonal categories, which is a shame, but... well, pick your battles, eh? Grutness...wha? 02:56, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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- Thank you! I'll do my best :) Grutness...wha? 02:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hallo, I'm puzzled by your move: there doesn't seem to be a primary topic, so surely the dab page should be at the basic name? Or am I missing something? PamD 23:46, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- I was puzzled, too, TBH. Schwede66 23:55, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- My bad. Tired editing :) I'll move it back. Grutness...wha? 00:35, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- These things happen! Thanks. PamD 06:10, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- My bad. Tired editing :) I'll move it back. Grutness...wha? 00:35, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Index troubles
Hi there, Sorry to use you to patch up my errors again, but noticed that in the Robert Leonard page the category listings for 'New Zealand curator' and 'art writer' have Robert's name indexed under R rather than L. As you can imagine I have no idea how to sort this out. Can you help? Cheers Manymanydogs (talk) 18:53, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Manymanydogs: Sure. It's easy - there's a special "magic word" template called Template:DEFAULTSORT. You add it above the category links at the bottom of the article with however you want the categories to sort (in this case, {{DEFAULTSORT:Leonard, Robert}}). If you want some categories to index one way and others in another you can pipe categories in exactly the same way as you pipe article links (e.g., [[Category:New Zealand curators|Leonard, Robert]]). Hope that helps :) Grutness...wha? 00:41, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Nomination of Jennings, Saint Mary for deletion
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Cornwall football teams
What is a football league pyramid? And why single out one team? That is what I meant by puffery. Also you gave no source. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 07:14, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Murgatroyd49: The football pyramid is the English football league system. Truro City FC is by far the highest ranked Cornish team, in level six, two flights below League Two. The next highest-ranked Cornish team is Mousehole FC, two flights lower down in level eight. There are several Cornish teams in level nine (Falmouth Town, Helston Athletic, and St. Blazey), which is where Mousehole played last season - it would thus seem odd to include them and not the other three teams. So it was a case of listing just Truro or listing five teams. This is all thoroughly cited and sources in the articles on Truro City F.C. and National League South, and the pyramid is explained at English football league pyramid. BTW, "puffery" means excessive hype, which would be a very odd description for what I added, which was factual objective information relating to sport in Cornwall. Grutness...wha? 12:36, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- Much more accurate to say they play at various levels in the English football league. Must say that during 50 years working in sports coverage, I've never heard it referred to as a pyramid. Teams being in the lower leagues is hardly noteworthy enough to warrant mention in the county overview. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 13:11, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- None of them play in the Football League. They play in the English football league pyramid, and all the clubs are below the Football League level. And the level of the top Cornish team in the pyramid is definitely noteworthy enough for the sports section of the article. I'm amazed that someone who has worked in sports coverage so long has never heard of the pyramid - it is the standard way of referring to it, and has been for quite a few years now. Everyone from the BBC to the Premier League refer to it in that way. The same term has become common in other national football league systems, from New Zealand to Ghana. Grutness...wha? 13:35, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- Much more accurate to say they play at various levels in the English football league. Must say that during 50 years working in sports coverage, I've never heard it referred to as a pyramid. Teams being in the lower leagues is hardly noteworthy enough to warrant mention in the county overview. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 13:11, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
Page moves
Thanks! Could you do the same with James Clark (New Zealand cricketer) - seems to have been known as Bernie so Bernie Clark - which is a redirect - would seem to be the best option. I don't think I can move over redirect (if I can please tell me how to!!!). If you get a chance. Thanks. Blue Square Thing (talk) 16:51, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- OK - will do. Grutness...wha? 04:37, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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- Who keeps emptying these categories? Grutness...wha? 04:37, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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