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Changed hook to read "fungus of the year" since that's the term used in the article (and since this doesn't look like a mushroom to me...). Accepting source in German in GF. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 06:41, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that Joe Dini, the owner of Dini's Lucky Club, a casino in Yerington, Nevada, was the longest serving member of the Nevada State Assembly? kelapstick (talk) 22:47, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- According to the comma article, that hook should have two more commas, which would seem to be too many. So maybe we should move "so far", like this: ALT1:... that so far there have been more than 20 arsons in the Coatesville, Pennsylvania, area since January 1, 2009, and 15 reported arsons there in 2008? Art LaPella (talk) 20:19, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Works for me. --Hunter Kahn (talk) 00:58, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Note that despite his edit, his version still doesn't still doesn't have the two commas I discussed, and my version does. Art LaPella (talk) 05:37, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Works for me. --Hunter Kahn (talk) 00:58, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Alternate hook (tense might need to change depending on the date used): ... that betting in the 2009 Kentucky Derby will begin on February 12? cmadler (talk) 20:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Er... "winningest"? - Mark 03:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- It's a recognized word according to Merriam Websters meaning "having the most wins" --http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/winningest , and it's more compact than other variants. If others have an alt phrasing, feel free.Cbl62 (talk) 03:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- It's North American sports vocab, Mark. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 05:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that Mark Pollock is the first blind person to reach the South Pole (pictured)? (new article, self-nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 15:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Proposed rephrasing: ... that footballer Howard Matthews was aged 40 when he rejoined Port Vale in October 1926 as a professional player, over 19 years since he was released from the club? ("Signed professional forms" was unclear to me; it's easy to sign forms at any age, but harder to actually play the sport.) --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:22, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Length verified, print source accepted in good faith. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Alternative #1: ... that Phoebe Omlie set the record for the highest parachute jump by a female, when she jumped from her plane at 15,200 feet on July 10, 1922? - auburnpilot talk
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- There are 3 faces in the pic. Please crop the pic properly, or indicate clearly who is who in there. Don't ignore Heston, whoever he was. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 05:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Cropped photo for DYK use to eliminate Willie Heston. He is definitely a somebody, but only so much room in a DYK hook. Cbl62 (talk) 05:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Proposed rephrasing: ... that Bobby Atherton was the last Hibernian Football Club captain to lead the team to victory in the Scottish Cup, in 1902? (Reason for the rephrasing: to indicate what sport this was, and to avoid suggesting that he won the cup by himself.) --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:44, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that between 4,000 and 7,000 Filipinos live in Palau? SpencerT♦C 20:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the Philippine Overseas Labor Office estimates that 80% of Filipinos in Palau are undocumented immigrants? SpencerT♦C 20:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Please credit User:D-Day as the creator. Royalbroil 15:13, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that the seafaring adventures of Anne Jane Thornton (pictured) inspired the ballad The Female Sailor Bold? - new, self-nom by Xn4 (talk) 07:47, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that John McFarland was turned down in his request to play in the Ontario Hockey League as a 15-year-old because of a Hockey Canada provision? New article, self-nom by -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 09:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- What do you mean by "arcane"? Pls elaborate, esp. in the article. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 05:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Alternated the word; word from en:wiktionary. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 05:31, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- I know the word. Why do you call that arcane? That's a journalist's POV. All rules are equally presented in a rulebook. More info on this is needed in the article to explain what "arcane/obscure" rule it was. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 12:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- I can't find any information about the provision being arcane, so I'll just delete that part. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 00:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- But then why is this special? Kids usually enter the OHL when they are 16/17. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 02:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Because it's a provision. Only a few players have joined the CHL when they were 15 or younger (ie. John Tavares). -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 02:09, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- But then why is this special? Kids usually enter the OHL when they are 16/17. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 02:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- I can't find any information about the provision being arcane, so I'll just delete that part. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 00:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- I know the word. Why do you call that arcane? That's a journalist's POV. All rules are equally presented in a rulebook. More info on this is needed in the article to explain what "arcane/obscure" rule it was. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 12:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Alternated the word; word from en:wiktionary. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 05:31, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Added a pic of Baez. Better if the right third of the pic can be cropped off. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 05:19, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- ... that the RTÉ television series The Great Escape follows families as they relocate to countries such as South Africa, Australia, Austria, Italy, France and Spain? (new article, self-nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 05:49, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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- A softer sell and harder information are better suited to Wikipedi'a Main Page.--Wetman (talk) 07:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Do you have an alt hook suggestion?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Ooooh! Scandals! Unless we are saving this hook for April Fools' Day, I suggest mentioning on MainPage the year and being specific so that people would know this Princess of Wales is not Diana. --PFHLai (talk) 19:02, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think the court proceedings described in the article have really established who slept with the Princess. --PFHLai (talk) 19:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- This fact comes from page 84 and 85 of Wang Zhongshu's Han Civilization (1982). Translated by K.C. Chang and Collaborators. New Haven and London: Yale University Press. ISBN 0300027230.
This version is a 260 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 04:31, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Alright then; this new reduction should be sufficient. Although I'd like more detail, I'm much more interested in passing this as a DYK.--Pericles of AthensTalk 09:22, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- This fact comes from page 84 and 85 of Wang Zhongshu's Han Civilization (1982). Translated by K.C. Chang and Collaborators. New Haven and London: Yale University Press. ISBN 0300027230.
- ALT1: ... that merchants from ancient India brought Roman goods of styrax and frankincense to the Han Dynasty (202 BCE – 220 CE) of China?--Pericles of AthensTalk 19:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- This fact comes from page 63 of Liu, Xinru's Ancient India and Ancient China: Trade and Religious Exchanges: AD 1–600 (1988). Delhi and New York: Oxford University Press. ISBN 019562050X.--Pericles of AthensTalk 19:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment It's a substantial new article, and well cited, but surely the title should be Economy of Han Dynasty China or Economy of China under the Han Dynasty? Looking at the new hook, it seems to me that merchants don't take goods to a dynasty, any more than a dynasty has an economy! Xn4 (talk) 09:31, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia must follow consensus of reliable sources; most sinologists refer to the Chinese empires as "dynasties". As flawed as that may be, that is how they are referred to.--Pericles of AthensTalk 18:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sinologists talk about China and nothing else, so just "Han Dynasty" would be fine. For the general reader of the main page of an encyclopedia, a little more context is needed. Suggest page title as Economy of China during the Han Dynasty. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 06:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia must follow consensus of reliable sources; most sinologists refer to the Chinese empires as "dynasties". As flawed as that may be, that is how they are referred to.--Pericles of AthensTalk 18:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment It's a substantial new article, and well cited, but surely the title should be Economy of Han Dynasty China or Economy of China under the Han Dynasty? Looking at the new hook, it seems to me that merchants don't take goods to a dynasty, any more than a dynasty has an economy! Xn4 (talk) 09:31, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- This fact comes from page 63 of Liu, Xinru's Ancient India and Ancient China: Trade and Religious Exchanges: AD 1–600 (1988). Delhi and New York: Oxford University Press. ISBN 019562050X.--Pericles of AthensTalk 19:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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Source, length, and history verified (moved to main space on 6 February). Awadewit (talk) 02:58, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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- To be specific, it was the last Great Auk in the British Isles, but not the last in the world. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:41, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- You are absolutely correct--slip occured, I guess, because I'd made a reference to England a few words before. Sorry about that and thanks for catching it. If Shubinator will allow it, please insert that phrase, and thanks again. Drmies (talk) 18:36, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- To be specific, it was the last Great Auk in the British Isles, but not the last in the world. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:41, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Article has only been expanded 4x, 3.8x if block quote not counted. Shubinator (talk) 18:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I counted some 260 words in the original and some 1800 in the lastest version (incl. quote). It is entirely possible that I did not count so correctly, and I think my high count includes the references and templates. When I did the math at nomination time, I though I was at something like 4.5 times the earlier version, but hoped that the significant increase in references, from 2 to 18, would make up for that. If it doesn't, though luck. And I thought the hook was really cool. Thanks anyway. Drmies (talk) 18:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- The prosesize tool gives 4631/1163 = 4.0x. It doesn't count the block quote at the end, but it does count the poem near the start (which maybe should be a block quote). Some exceptional 4x expansions have been approved. This article is nice, but it has a few run-on sentences and the climbing section could have a more encyclopedic tone. I'll leave the final decision to the other DYK editors. Shubinator (talk) 19:09, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've reorganized one sentence that you might have thought was a run-on, and added a word or two (so maybe I'm at 4.1 now;)). If there are any run-ons I'd love to know (since I teach upper-level advanced grammar at a state university I'm interested in this stuff). I've also reorganized the 'people' section a bit. As for the climbing section, it's pretty heavily footnoted and I wouldn't consider it not encyclopedic enough, but that's a matter of taste/judgment perhaps. If it's good enough, great; if not, I'm moving on to the next stack in the archipelago. Well, I'll do that anyway. Drmies (talk) 22:13, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't find any run-on sentences, but I have often complained that editors on this page use "run-on" to mean "convoluted". Art LaPella (talk) 04:31, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- I did. The article was so decorated with semicolons and other advanced level punctuation and conjunctive devices that no product of the American education system could have understood it. I had to do some aggresive pruning and reorganization, and I'm now confident that we the simple people can comprehend something about how this is an island with birds on it. The little engine that could and Curious George would be proud Drmies. It's like a gift from Sinterklaas. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:09, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Once again, "run-on" doesn't mean "convoluted". "... no product of the American education system could have understood it" means "convoluted". "run-on" is described in the run-on sentence article, and you can't communicate with a grammar teacher when confusing the two. Art LaPella (talk) 06:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- I bow to your immensity, oh CoM... It IS indeed an island with birds on it! And they are tasty too: reportedly they ate porridge with penguin there. Oh, after CoM's expansions the article got a bit longer, with a better lead. nudge nudge... Drmies (talk) 00:58, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Expansion, history, reference good. The images in the article should be sorted out though...they're a mess now. I like the infobox. Shubinator (talk) 01:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ha, I wish I could take credit for the box. Well, I could, but I'd be lying. What is the problem with the images? I really don't know what to do, and to my untrained eye they look fine. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've moved some of the images around. It's still a bit crowded; probably best to take out a picture or two. Shubinator (talk) 07:03, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Interesting article. Date, length, refs, and hook verified. I'll try and get this is on February 12. Nrswanson (talk) 19:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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- 221 character hook. Shubinator (talk) 02:08, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've trimmed it.--ragesoss (talk) 02:14, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Length, history good. Offline reference accepted IGF. Shubinator (talk) 02:41, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Rinku Singh and Dinesh Patel became the first Indians to sign professional baseball contracts after throwing a baseball for the first time in a contest? --expansion nom, Grsz11Review 18:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- ALT HOOK 1 ... that Rinku Singh and Dinesh Patel became the first Indians to sign professional baseball contracts, signing with the Pittsburgh Pirates after winning a contest in India.?
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- Planning to use the same hook for all his contemporaries, colleagues and rivals in the same industry? --74.13.125.218 (talk) 04:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- The person who wrote the entry on Moss for the website used as a source throughout the article has an undergraduate degree in music and is a high school teacher. I'm not sure why we are using this source, as this person is not an expert in history or African-American studies. Awadewit (talk) 09:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- It's on a site directed by Quintard Taylor, probably the leading authority on Washington state African American history. The article is used for simple, uncontroversial facts (what organizations he worked for; what political offices he held); this is the sort of thing it would be hard to get wrong. It's the kind of facts we would readily take from (for example) a newspaper profile. I believe nothing
statedcited from that source in the article gets into the realm of the even mildly controversial, so I did not search for an unimpeachable source. I've seem most of these facts stated in a recent exhibit that has appeared at the Washington State Historical Museum and now at the Northwest African American History Museum, but there seems to be no catalogue for the exhibit, and museum wall texts don't seem like a convenient citation. - Jmabel | Talk 15:40, 6 February 2009 (UTC) - Nonetheless, I will look for further citation. - Jmabel | Talk 17:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- It's on a site directed by Quintard Taylor, probably the leading authority on Washington state African American history. The article is used for simple, uncontroversial facts (what organizations he worked for; what political offices he held); this is the sort of thing it would be hard to get wrong. It's the kind of facts we would readily take from (for example) a newspaper profile. I believe nothing
- I've now added considerably more citation to the article. Unfortunately, so far I haven't found anything as synoptic as the article I originally used, and that article's cited sources are not available online. I've asked a librarian friend if she can help me track them down. I've now cited certainly reliable sources for the recall and appointment; I haven't found anything other than my original source that mentions his original unsuccessful 1969 run. For whatever it's worth, I've seen campaign literature from that run, but don't have it at hand to cite. Two such items can actually be seen in the background (to his right) in Commons:File:Harold Moss 07A.jpg. - Jmabel | Talk 23:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1:... that Sōya was the ship that survived a torpedoing by the USS Greenling in 1943 and rescued the Sakhalin Huskies Taro and Jiro from Antarctica in 1958? Art LaPella (talk) 20:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Tim Cole was the first person in Texas history to have his conviction posthumously overturned based on DNA evidence? →self-nom by Wordbuilder (talk) 16:05, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that in addition to designing stamps (pictured), Armenian painter Arshak Fetvadjian also painted the monuments of the medieval Armenian city of Ani? 5x expansion, self-nom., --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 21:57, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
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- alt: ... that Christ Bongo has been featured in lists of unusually named footballers? Oldelpaso (talk) 15:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
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- alt 1 ... that Ernie Vick (pictured) was an All-American football center at the University of Michigan and a catcher for the 1926 St. Louis Cardinals World Series championship team?
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- ALT1: If the article cannot be linked to twice in the hook, the following could also be used: "... that American composer Danny Elfman was nominated for an Emmy Award in 1990 for creating "The Simpsons Theme" and in 2005 for the Desperate Housewives theme? -Whataworld06 (talk) 01:16, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, history, reference good. I would recommend rewording from the President to a President...unless they only had one? Shubinator (talk) 06:53, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that Yohannan Sulaqa, to oppose the hereditary patriarchal succession, took a step unprecedented in the Church of the East: traveled to Rome and was there consecrated patriarch in 1553? A ntv (talk) 02:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Church of the East is a disambiguation page. That is, if a reader clicks it, he will have to guess which link will lead to a description of this church. After reading the article, I think it should be encoded as [[Chaldean Catholic Church|Church of the East]]. Is that right? Art LaPella (talk) 03:57, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Actually Yohannan Sulaqa splitted in two the Church of East: so to say that the true Church of East is the Chaldean Catholic Church is a POV and to say that it is the Assyrian Church of the East is a POV. I used Church of East to be NPOV. Anyway I've edited Article Church of the East and put as first meaning the Church before the splittings (that happened in 1553, 1681, 1830, 1968) so the problem is solved. A ntv (talk) 10:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I suggest a shortener hook of 185 characters:
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- ALT1: ... that UNESCO in 2005 proclaimed the Moravian male recruit dance verbuňk as the part of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Mankind? Redtigerxyz Talk 13:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that the Zen rock garden (pictured) in the grounds of Zuisen-ji temple, Japan, is a nationally designated Place of Scenic Beauty? Redtigerxyz Talk 13:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Source, length, and history verified for both articles. Awadewit (talk) 09:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- "Famed"? POV? --74.13.125.218 (talk) 05:44, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- ALT:... that comedian Freddie Roman eulogized Milton Parker, co-owner of Carnegie Deli (pictured) with Leo Steiner, saying that their New York City deli "caused more heartburn to the Jewish world than anything I've ever heard of"? --74.13.125.218 (talk) 05:44, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- The suggested pic is ill-suited for use at 100px. This (File:Dreierprofil.jpg) may be better. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 05:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Fine by me; I have substituted the image.Maias (talk) 23:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- The picture of the meat was better than the picture of the birds. This article is about eating puffins. Am I not correct? If so I say go with the first pic. Dincher (talk) 02:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- The pic of the meat is more specific to the article, true. However, as I understood it, the problem as suggested above is that the size on the main page would be too small for people to see what it is of properly. Anyway, I have switched it back. Either way does not bother me.Maias (talk) 03:49, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Irish students have recently set up Free Education for Everyone (FEE), an anti-tuition fee activist organisation which has successfully blockaded some prominent members of the ruling Fianna Fáil party? (new article, self-nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 02:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Since the 2009 issue debuts on the 10th, do we want this on the main page on that date?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Does "aviatic miting" mean "aviation meeting"? Art LaPella (talk) 06:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ye it does. Sorry. Mario1987 09:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Romanian composer, aviator, writer and parachutist Ionel Fernic wrote over 400 romances and songs? (moved from duplicate section below) Shubinator (talk) 18:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, date and hook ref verified. --Bruce1eetalk 09:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Orlando Antigua survived a bullet wound to the head before becoming the first Hispanic and first non-black to play for the Harlem Globetrotters in 52 years? - New article by Tony the Marine (talk). Self nom at 5 February 2009
- Hello, could some one please check this one out? Thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 06:12, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook ref verified. --Marine 69-71talk 09:14, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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Another Lisa Hannigan article for DYK... choice of picture... or could the two somehow be included in the format shown?
- ... that Irish duo Lisa Hannigan and Damien Rice dueted on "Unplayed Piano", a Burmese protest song that charted in the UK and was praised by The Independent as "a twinkly and beautiful thing"? (new article, self-nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 12:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Statue might need to be lightened.--King Bedford I Seek his grace 07:54, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
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- 214 character hook. Personally I think the NRHS part can go. Shubinator (talk) 02:13, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Removed NHRP. Thanks! Dincher (talk) 04:12, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 04:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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- I linked the Britishism "side" so Americans can understand it. In U.S. English, "side" can mean "team", but only when distinguishing opponents, not when no specific opponent is involved. Art LaPella (talk) 20:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Why not just say "team"? There's no compelling reason why "side" needs to be used if it's unclear..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that the Portuguese destroyed Korlai fort only 73 years after building it because they did not have enough men to guard the fort?--Belasd (talk) 09:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, history, reference good. The picture goes well with the hook. Shubinator (talk) 06:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that the architect Maxwell Ayrton's 20th century chapel for Gresham's School, constructed in knapped flint and limestone (flushwork), is now a listed building? - new, self-nom by Xn4 (talk) 14:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 06:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- From Feb 4 it's a 3.6x expansion. Shubinator (talk) 07:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I hope now it works. ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 00:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Much better. Length, expansion good, reference accepted IGF. I bumped the article up to start so it'll officially not be a stub...feel free to upgrade it if you want. Shubinator (talk) 06:33, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Perhaps the following: ... that singer Ray LaMontagne was nominated for five 2005 Boston Music Awards, including Best Act, Best Male Vocalist, Best Male Singer/Songwriter, Best Album for his debut CD, and Best Song for "Trouble"? I believe it is 200 characters long, and it does not contain the repetitive "of the Year" while still getting across the different award titles and accomplishments. -Whataworld06 (talk) 23:52, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, 202 (my count) is close enough. Art LaPella (talk) 01:36, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- History verified but the ref I checked only gave me the three wins unless I'm mistaken. Right? Wrong? Comment? We could simply rephrase it to say he had three wins... --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 04:30, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- He was indeed nominated for 5 awards (from which he won 3 awards). I have added another source (a local newspaper) citing the two additional nominations. If you feel the hook would be better off noting the three wins, as opposed to the five nominations, we can do that. I hope this helps! Please let me know if I can do anything else to help. -Whataworld06 (talk) 18:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Verified, by my calculations one ref has three wins and the other has two further nominations so I presume he was nominated for those he won before he received them. :) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 01:26, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, 202 (my count) is close enough. Art LaPella (talk) 01:36, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps the following: ... that singer Ray LaMontagne was nominated for five 2005 Boston Music Awards, including Best Act, Best Male Vocalist, Best Male Singer/Songwriter, Best Album for his debut CD, and Best Song for "Trouble"? I believe it is 200 characters long, and it does not contain the repetitive "of the Year" while still getting across the different award titles and accomplishments. -Whataworld06 (talk) 23:52, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Note: I would just like to point out that, while I do feel this hook could gain attention since the Grammy Awards air on Sunday night, this hook would need to be displayed before then in order to be relevant and appropriate. Thanks for your consideration! -Whataworld06 (talk) 20:49, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- If she wins nothing it goes to "was"... if she does that would be more difficult but not devastatingly so... --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 04:18, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Length (1891 characters reached by the end of "Mercury Prize" section of prose), BBC ref and history verified. --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 04:22, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well, Adele won the Best New Artist award and the Best Female Pop Vocal Performance award for "Chasing Pavements". I still think the best hook would be: "... that British singer Adele was nominated for four 2009 Grammy Awards, including Best New Artist and Record of the Year, Song of the Year, and Best Female Pop Vocal Performance for "Chasing Pavements"?
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- ALT: ... that on free online video game Runes of Magic's first day of open beta testing, 20,000 players created 100,000 player characters? Someoneanother 16:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Not quite long enough. Please see the rules for details. Art LaPella (talk) 20:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- I jumped th gun a bit, sorry. I won't be able to make the 5 day time period limit, so will re-nom under 5x expansion when I am able to work more on the article. Sincerely, Marcia Wright (talk) 02:44, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Reworded hook. Awadewit (talk) 09:48, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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Comment I don't think that will raise the interest meter very much. Isn't there something more exciting about the skool?--Wehwalt (talk) 00:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Definitely not, and this will probably be at AfD before it can be promoted. Grsz11Review 01:01, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Not that this stops anyone these days.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:44, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that, according to architectural historian Neil Levine, Frank Lloyd Wright (pictured) agreed to hold the 1930 Kahn Lectures for the "prestige of the venue and the bully pulpit it would afford him"? Self-nomination. --Hegvald (talk) 15:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that the discography of Lisa Hannigan (pictured) includes collaborations with Mic Christopher, Mick Flannery, Cathy Davey and members of Snow Patrol and Bell X1, plus her well-known work with Damien Rice? (new article, self-nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 13:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- The article is heavily reliant on Rice fan site,[1] personal blog in myspace,[2] and the singer’s own website.[3] --Poeticbent talk 17:09, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Not necessarily. In parts perhaps, although that's more the table featuring her side projects that the opening prose counted for DYK or the article in general. There is one link to her website which actually includes a video of the not particularly controversial performance mentioned. The discography is equally heavily (if not more heavily) reliant on newspaper articles such as this and this and this, television shows such as this and this entry on the website of Snow Patrol who have absolutely no reason to be mentioning someone like Hannigan as they are not associated with her and are much more well-known than her. I also don't know what you mean about the personal blog in MySpace as I cannot recall using one. The link you've provided me with just leads to the general site which only features in the discography as an external link – I presume this wouldn't be a problem with musicians especially considering it has its own template. This is a very unexpected early review which seems to have been done in haste – I also was not informed of the problem on my talk page. I know what it's like to review so don't mean to be critical of reviewers but if I can pick this many holes in a point then something must surely be amiss somewhere? --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 19:33, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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- - hook is unclear as to what you are trying to say. Last week of passenger service before...___? —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 20:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Before it was authorized to discontinue passenger service, presumably. --NE2 20:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- They were going to discontinue the passenger service on Dec 31, but on Dec. 24 the Cardinal blew an axle, so for the timespan between the two dates the super used his sedan to transport whatever passengers the train would have had to their destination. Anyone have better ideas to term it?--King Bedford I Seek his grace 22:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Before it was authorized to discontinue passenger service, presumably. --NE2 20:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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- I just found this great new article and want to sneak it in. Paxse (talk) 15:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Create date is actually 2 Feb so I'm moving the article there.
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- Length, history, reference good. Reminds me of the time I went hiking and spent the rest of the day trying to get the bugs off. Shubinator (talk) 06:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- No, sorry, that hook is just too misleading. Try a hook that has something to do with the article's content, please! Gatoclass (talk) 14:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Length exceeds 5x expansion. Date verified. Hook's offline ref accepted in good faith. Rosiestep (talk) 02:11, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook's ref verified. Rosiestep (talk) 02:20, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- It appears that Ref1 should verify the hook, but I can't find the quote in there. Which citation can verify the hook? Rosiestep (talk) 02:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- ALT: I'm sorry. I'm rewording it as follows:
- ... that Tsarong Dzasa was regarded by officials in British India as "the most powerful friend of His Majesty's Government in Tibet"?
- You can find this line in the last sentence of the first paragraph in ref1. Thanks-RavichandarMy coffee shop 03:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Verified. Manxruler (talk) 04:57, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Need sth less negative than her banishment from a golf club for this BLP article. --74.14.20.60 (talk) 22:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- It is referenced. What is "sth"? An alternate hook was that she reportedly agreed to not run for re-election in order to be named (or the Governor named her and stated that she would not run for re-election). Chergles (talk) 15:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- "sth"="something". Art LaPella (talk) 20:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- So what if it's referenced? The issue is not verifiability. The problem is an unnecessary focus on the negative. --74.14.21.166 (talk) 08:24, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- It's not really negative. A 3rd possible hook is DYK that "J. Bonnie Newman, who was selected by the Governor of New Hampshire for a vacant Senate seat was once the congressional aide of the outgoing Senator." Chergles (talk) 17:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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- History and length verified; offline source taken in good faith. Awadewit (talk) 09:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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- What's (supposed to be) interesting about this? Many authors and illustrators collaborate more than once, and many books win awards. —97198 (talk) 13:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- OK, how's about (ALT 1) "... that illustrator Blair Lent and author Arlene Mosel collaborated on Tikki Tikki Tembo, called one of the 50 best children's books of the preceding 50 years by The New York Times in 1997?" -- I think this might be better? Alansohn (talk) 22:54, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Recommend a more catchy hook. Otherwise, one could say "DYK that Obama is the current U.S. President and Rudd is the current Australian PM?" Chergles (talk) 00:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I can't think of a more catchy hook, after all she hasn't done anything exiting. Most people will probably have heard about Obama, but not many people outside Finland will have heard about Holmlund. ☺ Spiby ☻ 06:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Alt: ... that some members of the Finnish Left Alliance called for the resignation of Interior Minister Anne Holmlund after the Kauhajoki school shooting? ☺ Spiby ☻ 07:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Recommend a more catchy hook. Otherwise, one could say "DYK that Obama is the current U.S. President and Rudd is the current Australian PM?" Chergles (talk) 00:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Why focus on the young/immature and uneducated? --74.13.129.109 (talk) 16:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- The focus is clearly on the educated.The reality has to be faced. - Chandan Guha (talk) 02:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Verified and moved to creation date. Manxruler (talk) 02:03, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- I just found this great new article and want to sneak it in. Paxse (talk) 15:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- I moved the article here from its original placement at 3 Feb. Rosiestep (talk) 01:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date verified. Hook's offline ref accepted in good faith. Rosiestep (talk) 01:46, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, date, hook's ref verified. Rosiestep (talk) 02:33, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- History, length, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 06:18, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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I'm sorry! This article was created on Feb 4. I guess I got to move it there.-RavichandarMy coffee shop 18:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Should the be within the bracket? --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 23:49, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Kentucky Railway Museum, L & N Steam Locomotive No. 152, Louisville and Nashville Combine Car Number 665, Mt. Broderick Pullman Car, Frankfort and Cincinnati Model 55 Rail Car, New Sherwood Hotel
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- A picture of the "Jim Crow Car" or "The Cardinal" would be more interesting. Any Wikipedians in the neighborhood? --74.14.20.60 (talk) 11:40, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Easier said than done; they have a lot of rail vehicles and a lot of space. I tried to take a pic of all four, and I ended up with none; just a caboose and a French car.--King Bedford I Seek his grace 22:02, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Kentucky Railway Museum is a little short of 5x, it's at 4.5x now. Shubinator (talk) 06:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Recount. 7735 / 1427 = 5.42046251 expansion.--King Bedford I Seek his grace 07:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Length (exceeds 5x expansion), date, hook's ref verified. Rosiestep (talk) 02:38, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- OKay, but I suggest "made offerings of" rather than "gave" as the latter sounds clumsy. Gatoclass (talk) 05:30, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- "Its filmmaker" may be better worded as "its writer and director Lucio Fulci". —97198 (talk) 13:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- That would certainly work, thanks. "... that A Cat in the Brain is based on the reactions of its writer and director Lucio Fulci to real-life murders in Rome?" Valley2city‽ 16:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Verified everything except that this is a "NAFTA" highway. Gatoclass (talk) 14:06, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Does Narasimhacharya, in the notes section, verify the hook? If yes, can you add Narasimhacharya to References? Or is there another ref that verifies the hook? Rosiestep (talk) 02:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Lisa Hannigan's debut album, Sea Sew, earned the admiration of Grammy nominee Jason Mraz and a number of award nominations, and helped her obtain a tax-free status? (expanded article, self-nom)
ALTHOOK: ... that Lisa Hannigan did the needlework for her debut album Sea Sew? (alt-hook requires a subscription to view) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 23:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm also working on Lisa Hannigan discography which I have uncertainty over whether I should include it in the above or as a separate DYK at the 4th February date. --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 13:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Actually since there is an excellent free image of Hannigan I think I will include it under 4th February. --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 13:03, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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- I've bolded the article within the hook. --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 22:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oops. Thanks! — Scientizzle 22:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Both MKT & NSK were acquitted. Don't be a 21st century CNL. --74.13.129.109 (talk) 16:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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- I unlinked "Indian historian" because it was a redlink. See Additional Rule C1. Art LaPella (talk) 04:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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- "The Vatican" would definitely be inaccurate (since it is the state with actual sovereignty, not a Catholic religious body), but both the current and the "Benedict" alternative are a-okay. Dahn (talk) 15:18, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- I can't see this fact in the article and I'm wondering what's unusual about it anyway. Gatoclass (talk) 07:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, you're right it doesn't sound special; I should have explained differently. The following hooks aren't stated explicitly in the online ref (that I can find) but are quite true and explained in the print ref: ALT "... that Annunciation Melkite Catholic Cathedral in Boston is the principal church of the Melkite Greek Catholic Eparchy of Newton which encompasses the entire United States? ALT: "...Annunciation Melkite Catholic Cathedral in Boston its the seat of Archbishop Cyril Salim Bustros, Melkite Greek Catholic exarch of the United States? --Boston (talk) 16:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- The hook about the eparchy of Newton is good but you forgot to add a cite for it in the article. If you do that, I think this one will be ready to go. Gatoclass (talk) 05:02, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking another look. Please refer to Reference #3. Unfortunately, it doesn't explicitly state the eparchy covers the US, but that is explicitly said in the print reference. Reference #3 does show parishes from the East Coast to the West Coast. --Boston (talk) 06:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- This Encarta Encyclopedia reference I am adding does say it specifically. --Boston (talk) 06:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- This hook can do without the word "roles". --74.13.125.218 (talk) 04:04, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Lengths and histories verified; offline ref accepted IGF. Hook amended per comment. Daniel Case (talk) 04:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Everything seems to check out. Ottava Rima (talk) 00:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- The article is a little skimpy, but things seem to check out. I would suggest adding some to the tiny sections at the bottom or condensing them. Ottava Rima (talk) 00:56, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- I took your suggestion and combined the smaller sections. Even without the block quote, it comes in at about 2400 characters. Cbl62 (talk) 02:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- I don't see any problems or concerns at this time. Ottava Rima (talk) 03:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Wow, that's an early discography creation. I suspect it will be added to though. --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 22:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I get 1257 characters. Please rectify. I have a better, clearer picture but unfortunately I'm stuck in the middle of it... :( --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 22:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hehe, will do. Thanks for the heads up. GARDEN 23:03, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- 1530 now... probably more soon, but that should be fine. GARDEN 23:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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- There is some questionable use of sources (turning "nominated" from the source into "elected", for instance, or turning "holiday homes" from the source into "resort"), but the hook is correct for what I can tell. I think that there was something lost in translation. The page would need a grammatical clean up first and a more thorough check. Ottava Rima (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Why is this interesting? A shrimp is very similar to a fish, so it's not surprising it would have the same hearing range. Length, history, and reference good by the way. Shubinator (talk) 06:33, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- "A shrimp is very similar to a fish"? I wouldn't say so. Shrimp are much smaller than a typical fish and only very very distantly related (a man is closer to a starfish, and you wouldn't call them similar). The only thing they have in common is their habitat and the fact that one tends to eat the other (and never the other way around). --Stemonitis (talk) 06:47, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Shrimps are invertebrates and fish are vertebrates, so you're correct they aren't similar. They are closer together than people and starfish however. Starfish aren't even chordates! I like the hook re: Ireland expressed below. --Boston (talk) 00:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- I found it interesting that 90% of the entire catch of this type of shrimp comes from the waters off just four counties of Ireland. That's a pretty small area ... perhaps a hook (no pun intended) could be made from that? Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 23:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Moved to mainspace date 1 February 2009.
- Comment I wanted to look at source 1, as it seems he was in prison for at least some of that time, so presumably not "missing". However, it won't open on my machine. Can someone else open it and verify? --Dweller (talk) 16:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- None of the inline citations work, except for the one under Bibliography. --Poeticbent talk 00:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, that's the one I can't open. --Dweller (talk) 17:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- The only source linked is pay-per-view, so nobody can verify anything without subscription. --Poeticbent talk 17:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Then you accept the reference on good faith (Length and history otherwise verified). Daniel Case (talk) 03:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, that's the one I can't open. --Dweller (talk) 17:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- None of the inline citations work, except for the one under Bibliography. --Poeticbent talk 00:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Comment Suggest removing the "on their two rented estates" as distracting and less than vital. --Dweller (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- The reason why I included the mention about the estates was to stress that the surroundings were at least as alien to the rescuers as they were to the rescued under German occupation. But perhaps, this fact could be phrased in another way? --Poeticbent talk 23:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you're saying. Can you explain? --Dweller (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm saying that the couple rented the estates only because of war and only for a time being. They were forced out from their own home which was somewhere else. So, they themselves were a displaced people in a way, but please read the article for more info. --Poeticbent talk 17:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm. Personally, I think you're trying to pack too much into a very brief hook. Stick to the main point? --Dweller (talk) 12:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- The reason why I included the mention about the estates was to stress that the surroundings were at least as alien to the rescuers as they were to the rescued under German occupation. But perhaps, this fact could be phrased in another way? --Poeticbent talk 23:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Length and history verified. At the moment there's only an inline citation (ref [1]) for the >20 refugees from the Warsaw Ghetto. The 30 referred to in the hook evidently includes the nine mentioned in the first paragraph of "The rescuers and the rescued", which are mentioned in ref [3]. An inline citation with ref [3] after that sentence is needed, therefore. Also, for info, ref [2] is currently a deadlink for me. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 23:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for the attention to detail. Ref-links are checked and updated. Inline citations extended downward to include all people mentioned. --Poeticbent talk 07:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- ... that comedian Kevin McAleer starred in the RTÉ television show Nighthawks which also featured current BBC presenter Graham Norton? (new articles, self-nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 19:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- / Well, both meet the length criteria, and have been rated "Start"-class, but I'm concerned about the degree of padding and arguably unencyclopaedic detail in Kevin's article. Not so much a problem in the Nighthawks article. As this is a double hook, perhaps we can be accommodating. I'd welcome others' thoughts on this. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 23:00, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- "Upon rising he eats cornflakes"?! The Kevin McAleer article is heavily padded and poorly referenced, so much so that while somebody else is free to pass it if they choose, I will not do so for the article in its current condition. - Dravecky (talk) 03:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Ref [2] (for his alpine skiing record) needs to be checked: it's reporting no results at all. Ref for his skicross exploits, length and history are fine. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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- I think I'm going to claim joint credit on this, as the original was a very sloppy cut n'paste (from PD sources), with poor links, categories, missing the 2007 reprint etc. Mostly rewritten, & now much longer. It meets the criteria, but don't take my word for it. Johnbod (talk) 21:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Nicely done, Johnbod. You certainly deserve a copy of {{UpdatedDYK}} on your usertalkpage for this. --PFHLai (talk) 23:58, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Why? Johnbod's contribution came after the first five days after article creation by Wikid77, and it's not a 5X expansion. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 02:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- According to this diff, most of the crucial passages are still the original wording of the PD document and cannot count towards the DYK character count. They are also direct quotations that should be attributed as such or completely reworded. Please finish the rewrite so this can be approved. Ottava Rima (talk) 00:12, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- You can't tell that from this diff (which merely shows my changes - this is the updated one), and I wouldn't agree with that assessment myself, especially as regards "crucial" - the ones the same are the least crucial, I'd say, except to textual scholars. I'm not going to change them. They are mostly paraphrased, but not much. Johnbod (talk) 00:57, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Crucial for having 1,500 characters, that is. The PD text wouldn't count towards that. Just rewrite the sentences that haven't yet be changed and this can easily pass without any other concerns. It looks to be two halves (first two paragraphs) and two full paragraphs (last two) that need alterations or direct citations. Ottava Rima (talk) 03:13, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Scratch the above, on re-examining, most of it has been altered enough to meet the character count. Ottava Rima (talk) 03:15, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- You can't tell that from this diff (which merely shows my changes - this is the updated one), and I wouldn't agree with that assessment myself, especially as regards "crucial" - the ones the same are the least crucial, I'd say, except to textual scholars. I'm not going to change them. They are mostly paraphrased, but not much. Johnbod (talk) 00:57, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- The author apparently doesn't want a footnote there. It might be okay if we have refs saying that there are only three churches in Gaza, and that all three churches can be (reliably) dated, but we don't. So, never mind about this hook. --PFHLai (talk) 16:15, 8 February 2009 (UTC) The article is a legit DYK candidate. We just need another hook. --PFHLai (talk) 19:02, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- (alt.hook)... that the tomb of St Porphyrius of Gaza was located outside the Greek Orthodox church named after him in Gaza City? --PFHLai (talk) 19:06, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Alt hook verified via Google Books link. Length/history/date confirmed. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- The article says "whose tomb is situated in the northeastern corner of the church" so is the tomb in the church or outside the church? I don't see text in the article that says it's outside. - Dravecky (talk) 03:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- How about 'at'? --74.13.125.218 (talk) 04:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- According to this, the first Orthodox Church in the continental US was established in 1864, not to mention pre-existing churches in Alaska, purchased by the US in 1867 (such as this one, from 1826). Plus, its age isn't that relevant to Fărcăşanu, who, after all, wasn't even born when it was founded. I suggest finding another hook. - Biruitorul Talk 03:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oops. I forgot one word Romanian. Mario1987 09:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- OK, I've redone your hook a little, if that's all right. - Biruitorul Talk 00:07, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Haven't tried to verify this article, but someone will need to give it a thorough copyed before it is featured as it has a lot of grammatical and spelling errors. Gatoclass (talk) 13:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 21:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- I just did a major copyedit. - Jmabel | Talk 04:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the copyedit. I just read the entire article and I think the POV problems you mentioned are probably not serious enough to prevent the article being promoted, however, the hook says he "donated his entire fortune" to the church while the article itself says he "donated the entire holdings of his Franklin Mott Gunther Foundation". So either the hook needs to be clarified or a new hook found. Gatoclass (talk) 05:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- ... that experimental comedy pilot series Project Ha Ha featured such actors and comedians as David McSavage, Bernard O'Shea, Patrick McDonnell and Gerard McSorley? Candlewicke (new article, self-nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 02:52, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hopefully featuring on the Main Page might encourage someone to put some much needed work into those four extremely stubby people (although I somehow doubt it). --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 02:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- Looks like a job for User: Billy Hathorn. --76.64.76.62 (talk) 13:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- Oh! Does he deal in that area? --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 20:03, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've verified the hook, but it sucks. Surely you can come up with something a bit more interesting? Gatoclass (talk) 13:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- ... that despite being broadcast in Ireland, one episode of Project Ha Ha was criticised for featuring mainly Australian and American accents? --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 21:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oh! Does he deal in that area? --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 20:03, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- Verified ref, length and date. Not sure if "despite" is the right word here... I'll leave it up to the Next Updater. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. Suggest " ... that one episode of Ireland's Project Ha Ha ..." Gatoclass (talk) 05:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Length and date good, offline refs accepted in good faith. --Bruce1eetalk 09:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I find the "Composition" section to be almost impossible to follow. She is captured in England and then ends up in Dunkirk, a prisoner of the French? Please explain. Gatoclass (talk) 12:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- You got it exactly. She was captured trying to land in England during the Napoleonic Wars. Awadewit (talk) 09:16, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Captured by whom? That is not clear in the article. Gatoclass (talk) 11:18, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- As I read it, she worked on the novel for many years in France then tried to re-enter her native England illegally and was jailed. She asked her husband, still in France, to send her the manuscript so he had to make assurances to French authorities about its content. The hook as written is not factually correct, if the article is to be believed. - Dravecky (talk) 16:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- The Burneys both had to assure the French authorities, her husband by letter when he sent the manuscript and she when she received it. A British merchant also helped diffuse the situation in France. It is obviously a complicated situation that cannot actually be conveyed in a 200-word hook. Awadewit (talk) 09:16, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- It's not the hook we're asking you to clarify, it's the article. There is no reason why you can't clearly explain the situation in the article, but as it stands it's very difficult to understand what happened. Gatoclass (talk) 11:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't have time to revise this article right now. Consider this nom withdrawn. Awadewit (talk) 21:22, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- DYK has become Good Article review now? The hook's fine, the article meets all the criteria and it is a good deal more comprehensive, better written and better researched than most of the articles that appear. Yomanganitalk 11:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Actually both hook & the further explanation above are wrong; she was not in prison in France, or anywhere. I've amended the article slightly (the ref is online at Google books).
- I don't think Doody's explanation in the "Introduction" is clear enough to clarify these questions, actually. I need to add information from her biography of Burney. As the nominator, I strongly suggest that this be withdrawn. Awadewit (talk) 12:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Actually both hook & the further explanation above are wrong; she was not in prison in France, or anywhere. I've amended the article slightly (the ref is online at Google books).
- DYK has become Good Article review now? The hook's fine, the article meets all the criteria and it is a good deal more comprehensive, better written and better researched than most of the articles that appear. Yomanganitalk 11:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't have time to revise this article right now. Consider this nom withdrawn. Awadewit (talk) 21:22, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- It's not the hook we're asking you to clarify, it's the article. There is no reason why you can't clearly explain the situation in the article, but as it stands it's very difficult to understand what happened. Gatoclass (talk) 11:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- I have watched the article from development and it passes every single DYK requirement. The questions about a section has little to bear on the hook and the content of the page. The above conversation is best left for the talk page. I also own the source used and have verified what is stated in the whole page (as I watched it created). Ottava Rima (talk) 00:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
ALT:"... that the husband of Frances Burney (pictured) had to assure the French that The Wanderer was apolitical before he could forward her the manuscript? Johnbod (talk) 12:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- This is not how I read Doody's "Introduction" - I think he sent a letter with the manuscript. These kinds of questions are why I would like to do more research. Awadewit (talk) 12:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- "...which [he] lovingly packed up, having first obtained the necessary permission from the Police Office..." Doody xi. Johnbod (talk) 14:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
The account still doesn't make sense. "Burney had not originally intended to work on the novel while in England, but during a long wait for her ship at Dunkirk, she had decided to continue working on it." Dunkirk is part of France, not of England. Also, was she working on the novel in Dunkirk before she was captured by the British in 1812, or after? The chronology needs to be made clear before we promote the article. Gatoclass (talk) 04:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- The article is as clear as it can be without additional research, as I have stated. I continue to think that this nom should be withdrawn if the reviewers think that more should be done to the article. The history of the composition of The Wanderer is complicated, having taken place over fourteen years. I have presented it in as straightforward a manner as possible, trying to following the history given in the introduction to the Oxford edition. Clearly this is not enough for a DYK article. I do not have the time tonight to read the relevant sections of Doody's biography on Burney. Awadewit (talk) 07:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Possible holdover to April Fools Day?--King Bedford I Seek his grace 01:54, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sure, I'd be fine with that. Gary King (talk) 18:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Why April Fools Day? It's not funny. And the American John Adams is not that famous outside the U.S. --74.13.125.218 (talk) 03:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Image is of S. umbrosa, the species subject of most of Darwin's carnivory studies.
- I changed "pictured" back to conform to how we normally format that word, and to Additional Rule F4. Art LaPella (talk) 05:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Darwin Day is February 12th ... he'll be 200. Can we hold? Victuallers (talk) 17:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Whatever happened to the holiday section? Valentine's Day is two days later and Saint Patrick's Day is next month... --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 21:16, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Holiday section? Darwin day is not a holiday. What do you believe should happen? Seems that 150 years since origin of species and 200 since darwin's birth should be a wikievent Victuallers (talk) 22:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- The article only says that he erroneously believed them to be allied to the sundew family. This, I guess, requires an intuitive leap for those of us not versed in botany. Also, I support holding till 2/12 so the creator can turn more of those redlinks blue. Daniel Case (talk) 20:26, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
See also
- User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by AlexNewArtBot (talk · contribs · logs).
- Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know
the chocolataires article on the "did you know?" for today makes reference to the late 18th century when it should obviously be late 19th century. A high schooler's mistake which I wouldn't have expected at the Wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sallust (talk • contribs) 02:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be posted at WP:ERRORS? --74.13.125.218 (talk) 03:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)