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August 16

Identify object

There two objects on the land we just bought in Moses Lake, WA.

I can describe them but want to send a picture so that maybe someone will know what they are. I can't think they are at all copyright. Can you help with the upload? Feel free to see for yourself the image so that you can decide if there is any problem to stop them being on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.169.108 (talk) 00:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... if you want help identifying the object, you'll have to head over to the Wikipedia:Reference desk. As for the copyright status, as long as you are the copyright holder, you can do whatever you want with it. I believe the rule here would be that in the US, a work must be "original" in order to be eligible for copyright. What is the object? And I would personally suggest uploading the image onto Wikimedia Commons instead of here, because images here tend to actually need to have some encyclopedic use. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 00:32, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An expression...

I wanted to make a code so that when users enter their age as 13 or under, it will show up as "This user's age is 13 (and shouldn't be here!)", whereas if it is greater than 13, it will say "This user's age is 14." Does an #if do that or #ifeq?--Ninthcloud2 (talk) 01:35, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, #ifexpr would work better :). Try putting this into a template:

{{#ifexpr: {{{1}}} <= 13 | This user shouldn't be here! | This user's age is 14 or over }}

That should work. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 01:38, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah nice! Thanks for that, I was thinking that might have been it but wasn't sure. Thanks!--Ninthcloud2 (talk) 01:42, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

End of day

The article End of day seems odd. I'm not sure what to make of it. Suntag (talk) 01:39, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the other content, as it wasn't supposed to be there. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 01:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interlinking different language wikipedia images

Hello, I'm trying to edit the Dinas Dinlle article to include the thumbnail of the area, the image I want to use is located on the Welsh (cy) version of wikipedia.

So far I've tried:

None of them work for me, I can only get a link (which does work) but not the preview in a thumbnail box.

Is it possible to interlink images between different languages? Would I have to reupload the image from the Welsh wikipedia version onto the English version?

Thank you for helping me, Didz93 (talk) 01:59, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it won't work :S - that's why the images should be on commons instead, so they can be accessed by any language of any project. You might want to reupload the image to commons and then have the one on cy.wikipedia deleted. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 02:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GDFL Violation

Does English Wikipedia caught or delete GDFL Violations, like copying an articles to other pages, or that will keep because it is "Free" license? It's NOT a ordinary copyright infingement.蘇花高立刻購 (talk) 02:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why Japanese Wikipedia also normed for deletion for "Resume not inherance" for copyed GDFL document.蘇花高立刻購 (talk) 02:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, if we notice a situation where the GFDL was violated on wikipedia, we can delete it. Since the GFDL is fairly free, we can usually fix the problem without deletion. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 03:49, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Embedding an image

Why is it that in the article Nancy Duffy, the first image does not appear? After some experimentation, I found that all JPG images put with an underscore in their names, if put in that position with positioning or size code, don't appear. --Bowlhover (talk) 03:32, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since this section is now linked to by the threads above, I'll report that after I uploaded new versions of the images Image:MajBGS.jpg and Image:Languages_Benelux.PNG, both failed to display at all on their image pages. --Bowlhover (talk) 06:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Schonely page

Hello - I have a picture of Bill Schonely with his granddaughter - it's pretty cute. I have the pic because he's my granddad :-) If you'd like to use it, I'd be more than happy to send it to someone to upload because it says an admin of the page or a sysop has to do it.

Melissa —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uoduck98 (talk • contribs) 03:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. If you have the copyright to it (or know who does), you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons, following the directions on the linked page. All you need to do is make an account there. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 05:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Thank you - I've read up, and now I need to ask if he wouldn't mind the picture posted before anyone else can grab and use it :-) I appreciate your help! ~M —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.164.102 (talk) 06:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Technically, the copyright belongs to the photographer. Since you and Bill are in the picture, it's likely that a third party is the photographer. You need to ask that third party. If the third party is a professional photographer, (e.g., if it's a studio picture) then the copyright probably belongs to a company. -Arch dude (talk) 18:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox help

Having edited Template:Infobox afl player NEW to include information on a footballer's debut game, I've created an article on Archie Smith which includes the infobox but the debut section which I've filled out won't appear. Any assistance would be appreciated. Crickettragic (talk) 08:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The template tests for a "debut" parameter, but the article does not specify that parameter. —teb728 t c 08:53, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As the debut section is included in the {{#if: switch, then you need |debut=yes in the infobox (which I have done for you now). Regards. Woody (talk) 08:55, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot guys. Crickettragic (talk) 09:15, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image Help

Hello. When I added a picture on St. Giles' Cathedral the image is not showing up. Can you help me? Tharnton345 (talk) 09:27, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is also doing it on the Fife article. Tharnton345 (talk) 09:38, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am afraid this may affect me forever. Tharnton345 (talk) 09:39, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The image you appear to be adding to the article seems to be showing up for me. This maybe a cache issue so to start with, try bypassing it. In Internet Explorer and Firefox, hold down the Ctrl key and click the Refresh or Reload button. This will manually force your browser to fetch the entire page from the server including all images. If this doesn't work, please say so here. —— RyanLupin • (talk) 10:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, at the time the question was asked, we seemed to be having a bunch of trouble with images. It still doesn't seem to be working for some cases (or at least I haven't heard anything about it being fixed). Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 16:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Media and copyrights

I noticed that some users put their "make your own South Park character" likeness (see here) on the WikiFacebook in lieu of their images. Is this allowed by copyright law? I don't mess around too much with images so I'm not particularly familiar with specific details such as this, but it seems dubious that images derived from the work of South Park would be in the public domain.

Cheers, and thanks in advance. —Mizu onna sango15^Hello! 17:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Media copyright questions? The people there would know more about it. I personally believe that they're probably copyrighted by their original artist. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 17:15, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Userpage

Hi! Please, can you take a look on my userpage? I copied a photo from an article and then I added it to my userpage. Rugal (talk) 18:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What would you like help with? Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 18:09, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want help with it or something? Why have you posted this thread here? Lradrama 18:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(Sorry Calvin, I didn't realise you'd already asked the same question, it was blank when I started my reply) Lradrama 18:11, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c)Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia! I had to remove the image from your userpage because it was non-free. That means the image is copyrighted by the creator, and can only be used in a few selected articles with a suitable rationale. Please see the non-free content criteria and image copyright tags for more information. Again, welcome! PeterSymonds (talk) 18:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, oops. Didn't check history :) Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 18:22, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was guessing he was making sure it was within policy to have it there.... Lradrama 18:14, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading image

Resolved

I have uploaded an image. I wish to insert it into an article. But I can find no instructions. I have an example of a satisfactory insert (i.e. location, background, and position). But when I try to use that example (substituting my image.jpg) in a Sandbox, my image does not appear. What am I doing wrong? Is there a lag period due to possible copyright infringments and etceteras before an editor is allowed to use an image? Hag2 (talk) 19:45, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Instructions are in Help:Image. --Teratornis (talk) 19:48, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are you talking about Image:CasolaroDanny.JPG? --Teratornis (talk) 19:49, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You betcha. What do I do with it? Hag2 (talk) 19:51, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like you want to add it to Danny Casolaro. I suggest adding a {{Infobox journalist}} to the top of the article, and fill out the fields whose values you know. The template has an image field where you just type the image file name. You can see filled-out examples of the template at the tops of articles such as Dan Rather. More examples are in Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Infobox journalist. --Teratornis (talk) 19:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Tera...I'll give that a shot and see what I come up with. Now that you've seen the Danny Casolaro image what do you think? Is it terrible? Should I just forget the whole thing because of the poor quality, or should I continue? There really is nothing out there anywhere that is better. I figured that the image would help (or enhance) the quality of the article. Hag2 (talk) 20:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have no strong opinion either way. On one hand, we could argue that any picture is better than no picture, but on the other hand, the image is a fair use image and that has some liabilities. I think adding the {{Infobox journalist}} would improve the article regardless of whether it contains a picture. I would say just go ahead and add the picture. The worst that can happen is someone else will remove it. That's kind of how we operate on Wikipedia. Read the friendly manuals, and if we're still in doubt, just be bold and trust the user community to assert its consensus. --Teratornis (talk) 20:36, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might explain what you are doing on Talk:Danny Casolaro, as a courtesy to other editors. If someone doesn't like what you did, they might be less annoyed if they see a detailed explanation than if they suspect someone just tried to slip something in there. Any time one is less than 100% certain about an edit, best to explain it on the talk page and invite criticism. --Teratornis (talk) 20:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tera, I inserted a {{Infobox writer}} after trying many unsuccessful attempts with the other Infobox journalist. I kept running into peculiar problems with some of the fields displaying the proper information, but the other fields insisted on displaying their information either on the right or the left of the image! In addition, some fields never even revealed any information!! So...I am going to give up, and go do something else. I will experiment with a sandbox from time to time. Understanding all these nuances of Wikipedia are starting to get to me. *ugh* Thanks for your help. I owe you. Hag2 (talk) 20:53, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You could experiment with the {{Infobox writer}} template on your user subpage: User:Hag2/Sandbox. That way you could save your attempts at using {{Infobox writer}} and other users could see what you are trying to do. Did you try copying the filled-out template code from another article such as Dan Rather and editing it? If you only try things in preview mode and don't save something, it's hard for other users to help you by examining your wikitext. Wikipedia is complicated, but almost everything you need to know about Wikipedia is in writing on Wikipedia itself. Mostly it's just a matter of learning where to look stuff up. --Teratornis (talk) 04:44, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I am back again. My latest puzzle is the "Help:Image" page. Is this my best instructor, or is there some other less techo-babble tutor? Although I find Help:Image helpful, it seems as though I am being taught by a post-doctorate degree in Wikilanguage and etceteras while I am still struggling to keep my head up in elementary school. :( Hag2 (talk) 19:06, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note to whomever may be interested: I found this tutorial (which I found in a post below) much easier to read than the "Help:Image" page. Hag2 (talk) 20:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is one of world's most-visited Web sites. Unlike most of the other most-visited sites, Wikipedia is almost entirely editable by anyone. Imagine if your boss said to you, "I want you to design a Web site. It must become one of the world's top ten most popular sites, it must be editable by anyone, and it must be completely simple." I think the boss would be asking for too much. We only have examples of sites that deliver on two out of the three. For example, Google is popular, and simple for the users, but you can't edit it. Wikipedia is popular, you can edit it, but it's insanely complicated. See the pattern here? Speaking of going complicated to arrive at simple, check out WP:EIW#Image, which lists Wikipedia:Image tutorial as one of its links. --Teratornis (talk) 04:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Check for redirects in watchlist

I am pretty sure there isn't, but to be sure. Is there an easy way to check what items in your watchlist are redirects? I am trying to cleanup my watchlist. Garion96 (talk) 20:17, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see anything relevant in the first few pages of results for: Search Help desk for: check watchlist for redirects. I suppose you already read the friendly manuals: Help:Redirect, Help:Watchlist, etc. --Teratornis (talk) 20:39, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see Help:Watching pages#CSS? There might be some way to change the appearance of certain kinds of links, but I'm not sure. I don't know much about CSS on Wikipedia. Another distant possibility might be to use one of the query methods in WP:EIW#Query. Essentially you are trying to do a query that returns pages with several properties. --Teratornis (talk) 20:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if this is actually documented anywhere, but you can add:

.watchlistredir {
  text-decoration:line-through;
}

to your personal CSS file and redirects will show up as ~~strike-through text~~ on Special:Watchlist/edit, I don't think this has any effect on viewing the normal watchlist. Mr.Z-man 20:46, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Never thought of using css for this. Works like a charm. Thanks! Garion96 (talk) 21:29, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

August 17

Accused of vandalism

I edited a page (Estrées) and my edit was removed a few days later with a note stating "rv vandalism." I added accurate information to a page. The editor "FactStraight" left no message as to why he removed my contribution, nor why he labeled my contribution as "rv vandalism." My response was to "undo" his removal of my edit. I presume that he/she will do the same thing again. Why would I be accused of vandalism?--Cdestree (talk) 00:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see anything unconstructive with your edits. I suggest leaving a note on FactStraight talk page asking why they thought your edition was vandalism, it might have been a mere misunderstanding or even a mistake —— RyanLupin • (talk) 01:17, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Change capitalization of article

The article Twelve traditions should be capitalized as Twelve Traditions, though there's a redirect, it redirects to the one with the wrong capitalization. Can this be fixed? -- Scarpy (talk) 02:32, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In principle you could move an article, but in this case someone would probably revert you. According to the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters), we don’t use title case for article and section titles. Rather we capitalize the first letter of the title and proper nouns. —teb728 t c 03:21, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The MOS does not really address this or several other instances of capitalization. As this appears to represent a specific program in a number of twelve-step programs, I think the capitalization would be similar to Scout Law, Pledge of Allegiance or the Ten Commandments. You need to discuss this on the talk page and provide supporting references. If it is changed, it may be appropriate to place a notice on the talk page; see Talk:Pinewood derby for an example of a notice on capitalization. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking at the talk page for it, and not finding it. No mention of it in the talk page history [1]. -- Scarpy (talk) 15:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is a notice in a box near the top of the page. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 17:17, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is it okay to create a template li<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:MarkS/XEB/live.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&dontcountme=s"><link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/navpop.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&dontcountme=s">ke this one: Template:Bsastyle? -- Scarpy (talk) 22:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone know any alternate way to watchlist a category for changes?

I want to be able to watchlist changes to CAT:HELP. User:ais523/catwatch.js was great when it was working, but is lasted about a month and now functions only to make my Monobook.jss rather colorful (and yes I have enhanced recent changes turned off; makes no difference). I am not on IRC and don't plan on being, so #wikipedia-en-help is not an option. I tried defining a CSS user style for links to it, but that just enhances the changes to the category page itself. I also tried adding an RSS live bookmark to the category in my favorites, and can't make heads or tails of what it's doing. When I go to its entry in bookmarks it provides a drop down menu of about fifty random Wikipedia pages which, when clicked on, show diffs that have nothing I can see to do with CAT:HELP (if someone can explain what that's about I'd also be obliged). Anyone know of an alternate option?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Watchlist#What you cannot watch seems to be decidedly unencouraging. You might ask on WP:VPT if you don't get an answer here. --Teratornis (talk) 04:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I kind of expected to get crickets chirping here but hope springs enternal. Maybe the category watchlist tool will be fixed:-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

re: information about survivors of Legionnairs disease

how an where can i get any listings or complete info on people that have had this disease. i am a survivor of it. but i'm seeking out to find others that have had it. i ask because i would like to find out there aftermath of medical problems since. as i have many probs since i got it back in 1992,an survived it. is there anyone that can help me an direct me to a web site an or? please contact me, at <personal contact removed>

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science would be the more appropriate place to ask this question. Please understand that we cannot offer direct medical advice, but we do have an article on Legionellosis that may provide information and links to other sites. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a Photo

I want to add a photo I have taken to the page on Shea Stadium I have read all the support information and still cannot find how to add a photo to the artical —Preceding unsigned comment added by Garak99 (talk • contribs) 16:44, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Make eight more edits to Wikipedia to get autoconfirmed status (required to upload images) and then go to Wikipedia:Upload. Then see Wikipedia:Picture tutorial for how to insert the image into the appropriate article. Algebraist 16:51, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If the license is acceptable to you then you can also upload the photo to Wikimedia Commons at http://commons.wikimedia.org right away. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I am involved in the same thing. See here (yesterday's post). And I am just curious: What is the difference between Uploading(e.g. what I did yesterday) and Wikimedia Commons? Is it just a difference between having a shared image accessible throughout the Wiki-universe verses Whatever-I-have-at-the-moment? Hag2 (talk) 19:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Essentially, yes: images on the Commons are accessible on all Wikimedia Foundation wikis, not just the English Wikipedia. But also, since the Commons is a general free media repository, everything there has to be freely licensed. Since Wikipedia is primarily an encyclopedia, it permits non-free images when they serve an important encyclopedic purpose that can't be achieved by a free image. Algebraist 20:05, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I think I understand. Apparently the image that I uploaded yesterday is accessible ONLY on English Wikipedia because I did not upload it to the Commons. (This is not a real problem to me at the moment.) However, does that mean that an article written in English in the English Wikipedia is only available in that medium — for example, if my Japanese-speaking son, using his Japanese computer in Japan accesses the Japanese version of my English article he will not see the image? Hag2 (talk) 20:18, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is no 'Japanese version of [your] English article'. There is an English Wikipedia (right here), and there is a Japanese Wikipedia over here, and they are separate things, with different articles on different topics (though of course articles are often translated from one to the other). Your image is only available to be placed in articles on the English Wikipedia, and can't be placed on Commons because it's one of those non-free images I mentioned above. It might be possible for the image to be uploaded to (and used in) the Japanese 'pedia; I don't know ja.wikipedia's image policies. Algebraist 20:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

glastonbury patmos twinning

I have just added this article (Glastonbury Patmos Twinning) for your consideration to include on Wikipedia. The recent Twinning is recognised by the British Local Government International Bureau as being really important and members of the Orthodox and Catholic Churches welcome the link. I would love to include one, or even two if possible (one for each of the 2 places) images (photos) that I have taken. I do not know how to do this. Can you help - or shall I wait until you have accepted the article? I am not very computer savvy and will need your advice on how to upload my images. I looked at your guidelines for a long time but they remained a mystery to me. Many thanks for your help, Wikipedia is a remarkable inspiration, sincerely Zoe d'Ay 89.240.81.243 (talk) 17:38, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The suggested article is at Wikipedia:Articles for creation#Glastonbury Patmos Twinning. It has not been reviewed yet and this sometimes takes days or longer. If it's accepted then it will be copied to an article page where you can add images after you have uploaded them. Uploading images requires an autoconfirmed account at Wikipedia or any account at Wikimedia Commons at http://commons.wikimedia.org. See Wikipedia:Images. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:58, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

create and editing a page

wold you please show me how to create and edit a page?

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 18:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

html question

Need to add a html attachement tag and html hyperlink tag on my website so customers can upload a pic to send to me. I need help with the code, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.166.141 (talk) 19:58, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Algebraist 20:01, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did some one damage my account?

"Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in." that is the messege i get whenever i try to contribute. Ironically, i get the same messege when i tried to edit, while i was logged out! (One last pharaoh (talk) 20:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

You might be better off asking this at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical), where techinical issues of Wikipedia are discussed. Hopefully those there can give you a better answer about it. -- Natalya 21:07, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx, Nataly. One last pharaoh (talk) 14:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That happens when your browser is unable to process session cookies or you are using a bad proxy. What browser/proxy are you using? - Icewedge (talk) 21:40, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, i donot know about that stuff :D incase it would be helpful, i was using windows XP and i had the same problem, now i am using windows vista and i still have it. i even got a new hard disk, and tripled the RAMs so the computer is in like-new condition. One last pharaoh (talk) 14:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That happens to me, if I edit, go away from the pc, come back later and save. Perhaps copy and paste your changes in a refreshed version? weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 14:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As a last hope, i write what i want in an MC word file, or write it here then copy-past it there so that i have the contribution saved on my hard disk and i can try again if it did not work the first time. the kicker here is that i would not work the second time or the third time or whatsoever so i just gave up. i even thought to be just a reader and stop editing, but some times u cannot help editing wikipedia :) One last pharaoh (talk) 14:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What are the guidelines for submitting translations of a website?

Some months ago I translated material from a link to a Russian webpage on Nikolai Ogarkov's webpage. However, my translation has been deleted. Can I not translate (NPOV) Russian-language material on the Web to make it available to English speakers who don't know Russian? Gwgoldb (talk) 20:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In general, a translation is a derivative work of the original. Thus the copyright of the original applies to the translation (as well as a new copyright owned by you for the translation itself). As a result, whether you're copying a work verbatim or translating it, it has to be GFDL licensed or you can't use it on Wikipedia. Algebraist 21:02, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How come my image appears as a link?

I just added an image to the band template for Squirrel Nut Zippers, but it appears as a link instead of an image. I've tried various different ways to redefine the size of the image, but none seems to make any difference.

Dybryd (talk) 21:57, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That was odd. I removed the extra spaces from the Img line and it worked. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 22:46, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It now works in the old revision as well, though. Perhaps the page just needed a nonempty edit for some reason (I'd already tried a Null edit), but in that case why was it broken (and now fixed) at Special:ExpandTemplates? I'd already purged and null-edited the image without effect. I really don't understand this one. Algebraist 22:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had been seeing images showing that way in multiple articles, that are now showing as well. So it appears to have been a site-wide image displaying issue that's been resolved. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:55, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My guess is now that the images needed to be approved or processed somehow by the Commons. I had the same problem with another image I uploaded this morning - which was not in a template - and like this one it now works using the same format that an hour ago displayed as a link. Thanks for helping out, guys.

Dybryd (talk) 22:55, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PAI

Should PAI and Pai be merged? ----Seans Potato Business 21:58, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The former has been turned into a redirect to the latter. Deor (talk) 00:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do I flag something as advertising?

The entry Beetle Cat reads like an advertisement. I just put a comment on the talk page to that effect and recommended deleting the article. Now I am asking -- which I simply don't know -- if there's a template for flagging an article as potential advertising. Timothy Perper (talk) 23:15, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Timothy, it sounds like you're looking for the {{advert}} template. Just add that tag to the top of the article, and be sure to also include the |date=August 2008 parameter, as well, to categorize it under the current month. Hope that helps, Jamie^☆S93 23:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, that's the guy I want. Thanks. Timothy Perper (talk) 23:42, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

August 18

Box and align right

Can you tell me how to box Template:Nations at the 2008 Summer Olympics and make it align right and maybe use the same width as Template:Infobox Olympics United States so I can put it underneath it.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have got it boxed, but it won't slide under the other template. It puts itself next to the other one instead of below.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try this:

 {{FixBunching|beg}}
 {{Nations at the 2008 Summer Olympic}}
 {{FixBunching|mid}}
 {{Infobox Olympics United States}}
 {{FixBunching|end}}

--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or

 {{Nations at the 2008 Summer Olympic}}
 {{clearright}}
 {{Infobox Olympics United States}}

would maybe work ¡ Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs ! 21:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help!

Hello. I have a problem. Three of my articles, Ai Nagano, Kokoro Kikuchi, and Kiyoshi Kawakubo, which I recently created are up for deletion, and the more articles of mine are up for deletion, the worse my day is. If I don't get help, these articles will be article has-beens! I'm totally stressed out right now!Kitty53 (talk) 02:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kitty, Please read WP:BIO. For each of your articles, which of the criteria there qualifies the subject of the article as notable? (Just because an actor has had a non-notable role, that does not make them notable. Most people are not notable enough to have an article in Wikipedia.) If after reading that you think these people are notable, please also read WP:RS. For each claim of notability, what reliable, third-party, published sources verifies their notability? —teb728 t c 03:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've started quite a few new articles. You may want to read Wikipedia is failing for some arguments in favor of improving the existing articles rather than creating lots of new articles. Ideally, we would like every article to improve to featured quality; unfortunately, it's easier to start 100 new articles than to improve just one article that far, and that's pretty much what happens on Wikipedia. If you're tired of having your articles deleted, you could try making some new templates. In particular, you could design some navigation templates based on {{Navbox}} - how about a [[Template:Japanese voice actors]] to contain links to some of the articles in Category:Japanese voice actors? You could then add it to the bottom of Seiyū and to articles of individual actors. Navigation templates improve the appearance and usefulness of the article you put them in, moving them one small step of the way toward the ultimate goal of featured quality. It's interesting to watch your templates and see what other users do with them. A navigation template is unlikely to get deleted, unless all the articles it links to get deleted. Instead of editing in a way that leads to conflicts with other editors, why not work on things that don't get deleted? --Teratornis (talk) 04:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also do remember that nothing on Wikipedia is (under normal circumstances) lost forever. If an article you have created is deleted, then a request on the talkpage of the deleting admin will get you a copy of that article's text if you need it. You can then, if you think it appropriate, work on the form and content (perhaps as a user subpage) so it can be recreated as an article which will qualify as acceptable under Wikipedia guidelines and policies. Ka renjc 19:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

mathematics limits

sir ,

what is the geometrical intrepetation of partial differentiation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuchhalankit (talk • contribs) 07:14, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This desk is for help on using Wikipedia. I believe you're looking for the Maths Reference desk. Cheers, Zain Ebrahim (talk) 07:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See our article on partial derivative, especially the Introduction section. Gandalf61 (talk) 14:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image speedy deletion

I'm confused about what has happened here. An image which I uploaded, Image:Bernhardt Skull.JPG has been deleted with the rationale: "Speedy deleted per (CSD I8), was an image available as a bit-for-bit identical copy on the Wikimedia Commons. using TW." However, so far as I can see, that isn't true. The closest a Commons search picks up is this (right) which isn't bit-for-bit identical, at all, since the deleted image was "landscape".

I don't suppose it really matters at the moment: so far as I can tell the image was orphaned anyway. It's certainly no longer needed on the page I originally uploaded it for. I just don't understand the reason for the deletion, nor the disadvantage in retaining a public domain image on Wikipedia which might be used at a later date. AndyJones (talk) 07:34, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you would like to resubmit it, please find an image that isn't orphaned then. I hope this helps, Andy.:) - --SwisterTwister (talk) 07:46, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might ask the administrator who deleted the image (User:Melesse) which image she was referencing on the Commons. -- Natalya 10:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've tried that. AndyJones (talk) 12:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use or uncopyrightable?

I've uploaded an image at Image:Hydra Head Records.png, and I'm not sure whether it's non-free or uncopyrightable, like Image:Philips logo new.svg. Anyone got any ideas? Seegoon (talk) 18:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ineligible for copyright - text in a general typeface (common property) ¡ Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs ! 21:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re-write or edit

As a professor and scholar I have often warned my students about relying on Wikipedia. Recently I have considered the idea of rather than avoiding Wiki articles I should try to improve or re-write them. I am an international recognized expert on certain issues, but my main passions are: human trafficking, modern slavery, forced labor and child soldiers; international humanitarian law of armed conflict (IHL/LOAC); civil liberty and national security law. Should I try and add and correct current articles on the subject or is there a way to propose to the Wikipedia community entirely new articles? I am new to your system and would welcome a mentor/adopter to guide me through format and the complexity of Wikipedia policy and politics.--Cdestree (talk) 18:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, first of all, welcome! Secondly, there are numerous editors that would be happy to walk you through the world of Wikipedia, myself among them. If you have any questions, you can ask them here, or on my talk page. Best of luck! TN‑X-Man 19:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Me too -- just leave a message on my talk page if I can be of help. – ukexpat (talk) 20:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Estonia national football team

Hi, I need some help. Recently I made the right kits for the Estonia national football team, but I don't know how to add them to the right place. I tried but now I messed it up, I also added the kits to the discussion page of the article if someone could put them there by their own. Can someone put the kits there by their own or can someone tell me how can I do it myself? Thank you.

Sixest (talk) 19:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia file names are case sensitive. I don't know the details of the used template but I suspect the problem is .PNG instead of .png in your uploads [2]. If this is right then I don't know whether there is another fix than uploading the images again. People at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football may be better to ask. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is now resolved! Sixest (talk) 21:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FireFox/Mac

I just updated to Firefox 3 (I'm on a mac) and now Wikipedia appears in numeric symbols. Help.

My email in case you can't read it is <removed for privacy>.

Do I need to do something to be able to read your site again?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.189.184.108 (talk) 19:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously it can't be all symbols or you could not have browsed here to ask the question. You will need to give us more specific information on the problem. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 19:53, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How to delete redirects

Resolved

I need to delete the redirect for Billy & Mandy's Big Boogey Adventure so I can edit it to show that it's notable, but I don't know how to delete redirects. Schuym1 (talk) 19:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

After the redirect, at the top of the page, it says Redirected from [Page]. Just click that link and then edit the redirected page. Hope this helps. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 19:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Schuym1 (talk) 19:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 20:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you make a good case for notability with reliable sources, however, your edits are like to be reverted by someone (User:TTN) who prefers a redirect. This has happened at least twice already. So it’s probably a good idea discuss your evidence with TTN first. —teb728 t c 20:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My inline citation and link does not show in the references list and is not clickable

I recently added a section to the page about 'David Michael Jacobs' (UFO researcher (it is the section at the bottom of the page about his belief that he is communication with alien hybrids on instant messaging.) I put some external links as inline citations, but they are not showing on the references list at the bottom. The links also do not go anywhere when you click on the little number. I followed the instructions for how to write the citations, by putting the external links in [] inside opening and closing ref tags, but for some reason it does not work. I am obviously doing something wrong, but I cannot for the life of me work out what it is, despite reading all the FAQ and help pages that I can find on it. (I noticed that some of the other inline citations that other people have added on that page also do not go anywhere and are not on the references list at the bottom either.) Could you please let me know exactly what I have to write in the citation? If I need to write something on the references part of the page as well, could you tell me EXACTLY how to get to it, where to write it, and exactly what to write there? I tried trying to get to the references part of the page via the 'edit' link, but it did not bring up the full references page and it was unclear what you are supposed to do with it. Thanks very much. Angie186 (talk) 20:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angie186 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I fixed it,[3] there was an unclosed ref tag higher up in the article. - Icewedge (talk) 20:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angie186 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Appropriate reporting venue?

In the DJ CHEF article, the creator has three times removed various CSD tags without discussion or addressing the points in question. What is the appropriate venue to report such behavior? It doesn't seem like blatant enough vandalism for AIV, it's not strictly a copyvio issue... but removing CSD tags off your own articles is supposed to be a no-no. What to do next? gnfnrf (talk) 20:19, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the history, he did remove a copyvio tag, and has now removed the speedy tag three times. I have left a warning on his page. Take a look at the article and see if the copyvio is still valid and tag it if it needs it. I will look at this again in two hours or so. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In this particular case, the last CSD tag stuck (either the user finally saw the light, or was just no longer around to revert) and the article was (rightly) deleted. However, I was also kinda wondering what to do in these kinds of situations in general. Where do you take complaints of disruptive edits that are not blatant vandalism? gnfnrf (talk) 02:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Persistent removal of CSD tags after appropriate warnings should be reported to WP:AIV. – ukexpat (talk) 04:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question on Referencing

Can anyone help me to understand the blacklisting of Associated Content? It seems to be a good site due to it's association to Associated Press. Please respond to my talk page. Monkeytheboy (talk) 20:34, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Responded on user's talk page. —[DeadEyeArrow – Talk – Contribs] 21:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:railway line header

Hi I'm editing the catalan wikipedia and I have seen that template in the english wikipedia: Template:Railway line header. Anyone know how to do to hide railway tables as a default option? Thanks. --Vilarrubla (talk) 20:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

confirm my email

I have tried several times to get a confirmation email so I can make a comment on an article. I have checked that I have my correct email address entered. Any ideas?

Thanks, Dono suaveDono suave (talk) 20:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You don’t need a confirmation email to comment on an article. The fact that you can post here means that you can post to most articles. Entering an email allows us to e-mail your password to you if you forget it. You can also enable e-mail from other users; that feature requires confirmation. —teb728 t c 20:53, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have now commented on an article so maybe this has become irrelevant. See Help:Email confirmation and if the mail cannot get through to your normal email acccount then you could try another. See for example Comparison of webmail providers for some possibilities. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moving Page: Need Help; Sort of Double Page Made.

Resolved

– Helixer can stop agonising _Gb^T/c 21:28, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am a new user, just autoconfirmed, and I saw that an article title was incorrectly in lower-case. The article in question is/was Indian Summer: The Secret history of the end of an empire. As you can tell by the title it is incorrectly written, as it is also the name of a book. I went to the 'move' tab, changed the name of the article to Indian Summer: The Secret History of the End of an Empire, gave my reason, and moved it. What came up after the move was the page that said to check links. I checked the links and moved to the actual article. What appeared under the 'article' tab was a blank edit page, and instead of under 'article' I was under 'create new page'. I was/am utterly confused because I thought the whole point of moving an article was to avoid having to create an entire new page. I opened a new tab in my browser and searched the new title in the Wikipedia search bar. What appeared was the old, incorrect page! I went to the 'history' tab and it didn't say that the page had moved. I went under the 'edit this page' tab and everything was the same and I was still in the old article. I clicked the 'discussions' tab and all of a sudden I was in the new, correctly capitalized article where it still prompts me to create a new page. I have two major questions: 1) should this be happening? and 2) what should I do? Thanks for reading and please get back to me soon so that I no longer have to agonize about this. Helixer (talk) 21:19, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Simple answer appears to be that you've created (and then moved) the talk page, but haven't moved the page itself...I think (from recollection) that if you're on the article page and move it, it asks you if you want to move the talk page too. If you're on the talk page, and move it, then maybe it doesn't ask if you want to move the article page as well? EIther way, let me see if I can help you out. _Gb^T/c 21:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The uncapitalised version of each now redirects to the relevant places. _Gb^T/c 21:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much. You're an article life saver. :=^D Helixer (talk) 21:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Legitmacy of copyright violation

I'm looking for some documentation/help to clarify fair-use of material in the twelve-step program article. A user has commented on it twice: [4], [5]. Reproducing the Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions is is cited, and fits the requirements in Wikipedia:Fair use#Text, so can I remove the copyright violation notice on the bottom of the page: [6].?-- Scarpy (talk) 23:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The text is the whole of the "12 Steps" which, to me, isn't a "brief quotation". Given that the "12 Steps" is a major product of Alcoholics Anonymous and currently it appears in its entirety and verbatim in the article, it is my opinion that it is very hard to claim "fair use" in this particular case. In other words, I tend to agree with the copyvio stance of "Linda". Try summarizing the 12 steps, using your own words, to get the same point across. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 00:21, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A product of Alcoholics Anonymous? Apparently it's a moot point since the copyright expired. -- Scarpy (talk) 00:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

August 19

Searching within my own contributions

Hi, all. Is there a way that I can search my own contributions for those that match a particular search string? For example, may I find all the articles I've edited that start with the letter 'A'? - Richard Cavell (talk) 02:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

helpme templates

Where is the list of people who have the helpme template on their talk pages? I'd like to help with their questions, but I don't know how to find the list of them. --Alinnisawest(talk) 00:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians looking for help. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Prefixed a colon. Shortcut: CAT:HELP, which is easy to remember. x42bn6 Talk Mess 00:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yes, thank you all! --Alinnisawest(talk) 00:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bettie Page

My correction about her not modeling for sexually explicit photos was removed. It was suggested that I go to the talk page and post something but I can't see where I can post there--how do I post on that page? Also was suggested that I write the person who removed it. Can't find out how to do that either. She did model for sexually explicit photos, as definied by Wikipedia itself, and the photos are there for all the world to see selling on Ebay. Why are photos on Ebay not a reliable source? And how do I write the ones who took the edit down? How can you cite a source if you can't find it in writing but only the actual photos themselves? The article on Wikipedia about Bettie Page in in total denial about her modeling explicitly. Why is this information not corrected and when someone does try to correct it it is removed? Don't get me wrong -- I love Bettie Page but the information makes her work out to be something less than it was.Potaf (talk) 00:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Click here to get to the article's talk page. You can add a new section there to start a discussion about the issue. Good luck, and happy editing! --Tkynerd (talk) 01:00, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Click the "new section" tab to start a new section at Talk:Bettie Page. The editor who removed it can be contacted at User talk:Jca2112 - but please don't: You are causing confusion by scattered posts on different pages, the removal was correct, this has already been explained, and you will probably get more explanations in at least one of the places you have already posted. Another time, please follow up where you started a discussion (Wikipedia:New contributors' help page#Bettie Page edit removed) by clicking the "edit" link to the right. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wolf-hirschhorn syndrome

In the intro, you list the first reference incorrectly as Cooper and Wolf. You listed it incorrectly in the reference list as Cooper and Hirschhorn. The correct reference is Hirschhorn, K. and Cooper, H.L. Mammalian Chromosome Newsletter, 4:14, 1961. Please fix this. Thanks.

Kurt Hirschhorn, MD Professor Emeritus of Pediatrics, Genetics and Genomic Sciences, and Medicine Chairman Emeritus os Pediatrics Mount Sinai School of Medicine New York, NY 10029 Help me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greekhelmet (talk • contribs) 03:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. You could have done it yourself, but I'll add it for you. It should be fixed within 15 seconds after this post NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 03:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

US flag

How many stars in the flag of United States? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.81.166.6 (talk) 04:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Flag of the United States for everything you could ever want to know about, well, the flag of the United States. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 04:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a Citation to a Semi Protected Article

I have a citation for a couple of pieces of information in the Crusades article. Specifically, the portion related to Historical Perspective and Eastern orthodoxy. Because the article is semi-protected I cannot figure out how to add the citation. How do I do it? Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JPlantje (talk • contribs) 05:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you know how you want to word it use the {{Editsemiprotected}} template to request the edit on the article's talk page. On the semi-protected article, click the view source tab, copy the text you are planning on changing, modify it, make sure to preview the change, and save the changed text on the articles talk page. -Optigan13 (talk) 05:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Information required.

Sir, I am a new user to your wonderful world of knowledge. I am really surprized to see the collection of so many beautiful articles here. But is there any CD released for Wikipaedia, with which I can explore every article without getting connected to the Internet (i.e., an installable program of Wikipaedia like Webster and Britannica)?117.201.98.78 (talk) 05:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a project to develop a release/print version WP:1.0 in the future. Although the English wikipedia has not successfully completed this yet, although I believe the german wikipedia has successfully done so. -Optigan13 (talk) 06:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There have been static releases before. See WP:V0.5, 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection and Wikipedia:Wikipedia CD Selection for more details. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You may find TomeRaider useful. --Teratornis (talk) 06:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Transcluding templates

Resolved

It seems that 4 tildes ~~~~ on a template will not convert to your signature if you transclude it - you must substitute it. Is there any way to get around this? MSGJ (talk) 06:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See the inside of {{welcomeg}}, where they use
~~<includeonly>~~</includeonly><noinclude>~~</noinclude>
to transclude the signature in a template. -Optigan13 (talk) 06:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I know that trick. My point was that if you transclude {{welcomeg}} your signature is not produced. I wondered if there was a way to make that work. MSGJ (talk) 07:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I read too quickly through your question and misinterpreted it. You want to show a signature in a template without substituting the template, but still showing your substituted signature. I'm not sure how to do it, but why would you want to? -Optigan13 (talk) 08:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's possible, sorry - if it is the date and time will update rather than stay fixed ¡ Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs ! 08:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. Yes I understand now. Thanks for your help, marking as resolved. MSGJ (talk) 09:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple collapsible elements

Is it feasible to link collapsible elements so that they expand and collapse together? The specific context I have in mind is in terms of a route diagram, such as:

<non-collapsible>
<collapsible>
<non-collapsible>
<collapsible>
<non-collapsible>

And not only for the collapsible portions to toggle together, but also to put the toggle link up at the top.

From what I see of the help files describing collapsible action, each one is completely independent. Can anyone tell me otherwise?

Thanks Ansbaradigeidfran (talk) 09:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Inserting an image with a caption but without the inner frame

Resolved

I searched the documentation but unfortunately I did not find a way how to simply insert an image to an article with a caption but without the inner frame. When I want to insert an image with a caption I am supposed to use [[Image:...|thumb|...]] or [[Image:...|frame|...]] but the problem is that both options add two frames around the image: the inner frame tightly surrounds the image and the outer frame loosely surrounds both the image and the caption. Most of pictures which do not have rectangular shape (i.e. using transparent background) cannot be aesthetically placed in such conditions. See for example the first image here: Secure Digital card#Openness of standards. Could you please help me how to add an image the same way but just without the inner frame? --pabouk (talk) 10:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can do this with some templates, such as {{quote box2}}. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 11:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gadget850! I used:

{{quote box2
|width = 0px
|border = 1px
|quote =[[Image:Sd insides.png|180px]] The insides of a Samsung 512 MB SD Card. The top chip is the SD
[[controller (computing)|controller]] and the bottom one is the [[NAND flash]] chip that actually stores the data.}}

The result is good. --pabouk (talk) 13:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changing an Autobiography to an article

Hi there, I would like to edit and make my page be more of an artickle then an autobiography. I keep getting the message on top of the page. I treid to edit it several times but can't seem to do the proper thing. I also read your examples but still it doesn't work. Could you kindly guide me through it. Many thanks.

The page is about Marco Susino Marco Susino —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.106.19 (talk) 10:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. You should have a look at WP:YFA and WP:T as a start and also look at {{citeweb}} to properly cite the online sources in the article. I made a few minor edits to that page. Hope this helps. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 12:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But please note, if you are Mr Susino, you have a major conflict of interest and should not edit the article about you. – ukexpat (talk) 18:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No source links available.

I have searched this Wiki for the Batsman-Minutes details but in vain!!! I know that "M" stands for the total number of Minutes a particular batsman has kept in crease. Unfortunately i was not able to find these details anywhere to link it with the source page or sites, which would obviously get deleted from the postings page...

thanx n regards, Jerry Louis —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crickwiki (talk • contribs) 13:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Im not sure i quite understand your question. This is the english encyclopedia, not the cricket encyclopedia. What do you actually want to do? Create an article on batsman minutes? Monster Under Your Bed ^(talk) 13:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Victory_Theatre

Dear Wikipedia Editors -

I am hoping you can help me correct the title of the listing of my organization, The New Victory Theater in NYC. It's actually a very simple spelling change, but I didn't see a way for me to act as an individual and effect the name of the page. Our copywritten name is "The New Victory Theater" not theatre--can you please change the name for us? We'd appreciate it.

Sincerely,

Jamie O'Brien Marketing Associate The New Victory Theater/New 42nd Street, Inc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.89.6 (talk) 14:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are too much trouble

How many pages of "contact us" does someone have to go through to ask a question? Your site is difficult to use, which makes people like me not want to contribute.

I created a login and a password this morning.

But it is not recognized.

Sure, I could read the 15 pages of "read this before contacting wikipedia" but I am all about simplicity.

So, what's my problem.

I created a login and a password. I did not give you my email.

Now I cannot even find the "send" button to send you this email !!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.157.61.251 (talk) 14:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The English Wikipedia is one of the world's top-ten most popular Web sites. Every site in the top ten is incredibly complicated, but sites like Google hide most of this complexity from the user, by greatly limiting what the user can do. Wikipedia takes the opposite approach, by letting the user do just about everything. Therefore, on Wikipedia, you will see lots of complexity. Wikipedia is also a do it yourself project, which means everybody has to be largely self-reliant and pull their own weight as much as possible, by reading and following instructions, some of which certainly are complex, because many types of power can only come from complex systems. (The only known way to make complex systems simple for people who don't want to read instructions is to hire a human expert who did read the instructions. For example, most people don't want to go to medical school, so instead we hire physicians to treat us. Since most people have been dealing with human experts all their lives, it is natural to expect that on Wikipedia there will also be experts to serve us. But this is not quite true. Wikipedia is a collaborative editing system in which users interact as peers. While there are new users and experienced users, every user is really on the same footing with respect to the overall system - we are all just reading instructions and trying to follow them. Do it yourself is not for everyone, so if this makes you uncomfortable, you might try some other hobby.) Wikipedia's account creation feature works very well for lots of users, but for some reason it can fail for some people, possibly depending on the particulars of their Internet access. Unfortunately, these kinds of problems are almost impossible for Help desk volunteers to diagnose for other people. In some cases, a few people just can't seem to log in to Wikipedia, or stay logged in. Be sure you are typing your username and password exactly as you entered them (both items are case sensitive). If you did not enter an e-mail address, then Wikipedia cannot send you a new password. In the worst case, you can still contribute to Wikipedia even without an account, although an account gives you some extra privileges. You can also try making another account, and this time you should enter an e-mail address so you have a way to recover your password if you should forget it. To learn the basics of editing on Wikipedia, take the tutorial. --Teratornis (talk) 16:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Log in, create an account.

Tried twice, can not get in. I would like to add some information about a drum, called Tubano. I just bought one and love it. As this is a fairly new instrument, I think 2007, there is no history for it. What ever we write, now, will be the history.

This process, is way to hard. Please contact Walt Smith <address redacted> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.154.79.105 (talk) 16:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We have a Tubanos article, but it appears to be the work of someone who is new to Wikipedia editing and has not yet learned much about how to write for an enyclopedia. Therefore, other users have placed some messagebox templates on the article to point out that it has problems that need fixing. Yes, learning Wikipedia can be hard, depending on which parts you choose to tackle first. However, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and if you wanted to get a job writing for, say, Encyclopedia Britannica, that would be even harder. If you cannot log in to Wikipedia, you can still edit the Tubanos article. Did you enter an e-mail address when you created your account? If so, you can tell Wikipedia to send you a password by e-mail and try logging in with that. User names and passwords are case sensitive. --Teratornis (talk) 17:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your statement "What ever we write, now, will be the history" sounds like you want to write things in conflict with policies like Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research. Wikipedia content should already have been published by reliable sources. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Help:Logging in and please be more specific about the problem. What do you do and what happens? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing The List Of Defunct Magazines

The new revival issue of Bear Magazine is now out. Therefore, I'd like to remove it from the list of Defunct Magazines in America. How do I do that? The edit function isn't helping.

Angina Floss (talk) 16:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's not a list, it's a Category. You have to edit Bear Magazine to remove it from the category (I have done so). Algebraist 16:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:LIST to learn more about list articles on Wikipedia. And definitely read Help:Category, perhaps several times, because categories on Wikipedia can be one of the most baffling features for new users here. Categories confused me for some time when I was new. --Teratornis (talk) 17:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:TimLambert

Hi I would like you to place a ban on Timlambert for incessantly editing Helen Darville's wiki page. TimLmbert has made numerous attempts at editing Darville's page to the point where the page owner has angrily asked him to cease and desist. He appears to be a serial editor on numerous pages preferring to display his personal opinion rather than the truth.

The edit he is attempting creates defamation issues as TimLambert is editing by adding information that is irrelevant.

Please block him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Helen_Darville&action=history —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.190.40.15 (talk) 17:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He's reverting unsourced information that you're adding. Hardly vandalism. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 17:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lambert's "offense" is his removal of vandalisms inserted repeatedly into the article in question by one or more IPs. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See also Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Enforcing this policy is not vandalism, and note that nobody owns an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:41, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pic from FA

Can this pic be used? It states it is from a music video, but it is not. The copyrights seem all wrong. What is the appropriate tag for this pic? --Endless Dan 17:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting an account

How do I delete my account? --63.135.158.193 (talk) 18:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)ChuckCoke[reply]

Due to the fact that Wikipedia content is licensed under the GFDL, all edits must be kept for attribution purposes, and so your account cannot be deleted. You do, however, have the right to vanish, which you can exercise by (1) requesting your user page (found at Special:Mypage) and/or user talk page (found at Special:Mytalk) be deleted, by adding the {{db-userreq}} template to them; (2) requesting to change your username to something that is unconnected with you (possibly a random collection of letters and numbers); (3) never logging in to your account again. If you do this, you are still free to register a new username if you wish to continue editing Wikipedia. Woody (talk) 19:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

posting my company info

How do I list/post my companies information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willisayres (talk • contribs) 19:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Short answer - don't. Unless it satisfies the criteria of notability for inclusion, anything you post will most likely be deleted as being spam or promotional in nature. That, and as you have a connection with the company, means you have a conflict of interest. If your company really is notable enough to merit inclusion, someone will write about it soon enough. _Gb^T/c 19:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

two files seem to be missing

The image files Image:Chessxwd45.svg and Image:Chessxwl45.svg seem to have disappeared. We need these to make chess position diagrams. Can we get the files back? Bubba73 (talk), 20:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find any evidence that such images have ever existed. If I understand the documentation correctly, this is generic code: you have to change the x into a piece-identifying letter to get a white piece (on either a black or white square). Algebraist 20:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to do something that makes sense

There were two DIFFERENT bands listed in one entry. One of them I work with so I wanted to separate them and make sure the info was current and add more references. I tried to do this, but what I did was deleted. Please explain to me why?

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