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May 9, 2012

May 8, 2012

  • (Discuss) – Niagara Falls, Ontario railway station → Niagara Falls railway station (Canada) – Ideally, this article should simply be at "Niagara Falls railway station". Because there is a Niagara Falls Amtrack station just across the border in the United States, this article needs something to disambiguate. My suggestion is using "Canada" to disambiguate, since the reader can only confuse this article with the station of the same name in the US. A secondary suggestion is "Niagara Falls railway station (Ontario)". Any of those two choices would be preferable to the current option, which bunches together the words "Ontario railway station" and is stylistically unappealing and inappropriate. This is not the proper way to disambiguate pages other than if they only involve the city itself. Colipon+(Talk) 14:51, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Golden Team → Hungarian Golden Team – As I see, there were in the past hot discussions on the naming issue, with many users involved and several title proposals. The article was retitled a couple of times during history. I will pick some previous arguments * "The current title could apply to any "golden team" of any sport, of any era" (Coopuk)* "The name "Golden Team" is just too ambiguous" (Tim Pierce)* "Titles are expected to use names and terms that are precise, but only as precise as is necessary to identify the topic of the article unambiguously" (WP:TITLE) * "simple google search show that term "Golden Team" can be used for various thing" (PANONIAN)There were at least 4 contributors that agreed with "Hungarian Golden Team" (Andrewa, Coopuk, Tim Pierce, Kauffner). Also partly FkpCascais ("Hungarian Golden Team also sounds like a reasonable proposal"). Golden Team could be redirected to Golden Generation, an article about groups of players, whose achievements reach or are expected to reach a level of success beyond that which their team had previously achieved. France '98, Sweden '94 etc are called Golden Teams too ForzaTeplice (talk) 08:23, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2007–2012 global financial crisis → Global Financial Crisis – In my view, the less cumbersome, the less complex, and the more accessible an article name is, the better. In this case, there are two additional points to support the page move. The first is that no reader will reasonably confuse "Global Financial Crisis" with any other similar event in history, rendering the "year" prefix to the article redundant. The second is that the current "2007-2012" designation is unstable, as editors (and indeed, economists) cannot determine when the event started or ended, or whether it is still on-going. The only point of contention is whether or not we make the GFC a proper noun (i.e. capitalize all the initials). Colipon+(Talk) 00:49, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

May 7, 2012

  • (Discuss) – Seamus incident → Mitt Romney dog incident – I'm not sure if opening a new move request discussion is the best way to handle this; if consensus seems to be that this is needlessly tedious or inflammatory, or that another process to reconsider the name should be used, I will withdraw. But I disagree that Seamus incident is a good title and that it had a consensus of support. (It is, however, a better title than Seamus (dog).) It looks to me like a title using Mitt Romney's name had the most support, but that a minority of users objected to using Mitt Romney's name, and because most people in favor of a title using his name didn't go out of their way to argue in support specifically of using his name, it was mistakenly perceived that everybody would be just as happy with NOT using his name.The problem with Seamus incident is that, I believe, very few people who are aware of this topic would identify it by the name of the dog, but virtually anyone who is aware of the topic would be able to identify it by reference to Mitt Romney's dog. Our article naming policy says: "the ideal article title will resemble titles for similar articles, precisely identify the subject, be short, be natural, and be recognizable." I don't agree that invoking the name "Seamus" meets these ideals anywhere near as well as the name "Mitt Romney" does.I also don't see any basis for claiming that using Romney's name would be any sort of BLP violation. While the debate over naming Campaign for "santorum" neologism obviously springs to mind (especially since the closer of the RM discussion here used the word "neologism" in his closing rationale despite absolutely nobody on either side of the actual discussion using that word), that topic bears little resemblance to this one, because that article is about a campaign, developed independently of Rick Santorum, seeking to associate his name with something disgusting, and this article is about something that Mitt Romney inarguably, undeniably did, and how people feel about it. A precedent that prevents us from titling articles about political incidents in a way that allows people to identify what the article is about would be a very bad convention to adopt. Theoldsparkle (talk) 16:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Electorate of the Palatinate → Electoral Palatinate – I'd like to revert the page move by -Ilhador-.Electoral Palatinate is the normal English-language term (and closer to Kurpfalz, the usual German term); Electorate of the Palatinate, while accurate, is awkward (and a literal translation of the German Kurfürstentum von der Pfalz).For the sake of transparency, I have also just reverted the other edits by -Ilhador-.relisted --Mike Cline (talk) 13:51, 7 May 2012 (UTC) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 00:16, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

May 6, 2012

  • (Discuss) – Siemens PLM Software → UGS Corp. – As noted in the article, UGS Corp. was acquired by Siemens AG. Since UGS Corp. no longer exists as a separate company its Wikipedia entry should be retained for historical purposes. Engineering Animation Inc., SDRC and Tecnomatix are companies that were merged with/acquired by UGS Corp. and their entries still exist in Wikipedia, so UGS Corp.'s Wikipedia entry should similarly be retained. Jcubed la (talk) 23:17, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Châteauguay-La Prairie → Châteauguay-Laprairie – This was a former provincial electoral district in Quebec, abolished in 1944. It was spelled using "Laprairie" in contemporary sources (for instance in newspaper reports on the day after the 1939 election, see references within the article itself). However it is sometimes spelled using "La Prairie" nowadays due to the influence of the modern-day La Prairie provincial electoral district (which was itself spelled "Laprairie" until 1988). Although the current title of "Châteauguay-La Prairie" is also used at the National Assembly of Quebec website, it does not appear to be a name it actually had during its existence, and so not historically accurate. P.T. Aufrette (talk) 06:35, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

May 5, 2012

May 4, 2012

  • (Discuss) – Anglicisation → Anglicization – Since it involves a move as well as a fairly major replace text operation, I'll note this here. Per WP:ENGVAR and this initial edit, the page should be in American English. It is somewhat cute that a page about (linguistic) Anglicization has been itself (culturally) Anglicized, but not enough to avoid fixing.(WP:RETAIN has two aspects: personally, I feel the don't-bother-changing-things is much less clear cut and helpful than the first-edit rule & that it doesn't obtain in the face of repeated restorations of the American spellings, arguing on the talk page, &c; but we can go ahead and establish a concensus if everyone else here disagrees with me on that. =) — LlywelynII 16:27, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

May 3, 2012

May 2, 2012

  • (Discuss) – Anne Hathaway (actress) → Anne Hathaway – I moved it yesterday not realizing that this was requested before. [See note below.–Noetica] I think Anne Hathaway (actress) should be the default redirect, as she is a more significant figure. Shakespeare's wife can still be searched through the "disambiguation" tag that is left above. This is evidenced by the amount of hits the page gets, that she is the prominent Anne Hathaway of today
    [Note: The proposer has not described the situation correctly. In fact there was a confused rearrangement involving a redirect and and a DAB page. That situation was then rectified; and the current RM, which is not the first for this page, is under discussion assuming the status quo that has now been restored.–Noetica]
    Marty2Hotty (talk) 22:41, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Buy&Sell → BuyandSell.ie – I'd like to request that this page be renamed to BuyandSell.ie as the current title "Buy&Sell" is outdated. The company now uses the new title on both website and magazine as well as all marketing. Previous management focused on the Buy&Sell term only. I intend to update the associated image and freshen up the content a little. Phil.galligan (talk) 14:35, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Las Vegas → Las Vegas (disambiguation) – Las Vegas remains the last outpost of the absurd U.S. city naming convention from awhile back that dictated that every single U.S. city reside at "[name], [state]", no matter how well-known they are. Despite there being apparent consensus in the RFC above for righting this wrong, this still has not been rectified, bulwarked by another dead-end RFC, topped off by an impassioned local explaining the intricacies of the area.Simply put, the article currently at Las Vegas, Nevada is precisely what one should see if one goes to Las Vegas. All this nonsense about people really thinking of the Las Vegas Strip or the Las Vegas Valley or McCarren Airport or the Bellagio or something else is neither here nor there. There's nothing special about Las Vegas and, as was suggested when the ridiculous U.S. city naming convention was eradicated a few years ago, U.S. cities in general. Nearly every major city in the world has the issue of people not intimately familiar with the city referring to places not technically in that city as actually being there. Nearly every major city in the world has much smaller cities or films or whatever named after them. And, yet somehow we have no qualms about putting major cities at their simple, straightforward titles. Except for Las Vegas.We do a serious disservice to readers when we direct readers to a disambiguation page or, worse, to the Valley page because we, a bunch of nitpickers, know better than them what they are looking for. The principle of least astonishment ought to apply; when I type in Las Vegas, I expect to see an article about Las Vegas -- even if that's not the location of the hotel, airport, attraction, or house I'm thinking of. It's about time we make that a reality. -- tariqabjotu 08:25, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog

  • (Discuss) – Bedsore → Pressure ulcer – * Bedsores, decubitus ulcers and pressure ulcers all refer to the same disease process, however the terms bedsore and decubitus ("to lie") ulcer are misleading as they refer only to ulcers caused by prolonged bed rest. Pressure ulcers can form any place on the body where the skin is subjected to continuous pressure, such as in a patient confined to a wheelchair developing ulcerations over their coccyx or ischial tuberosity. 68.32.94.54 (talk) 02:32, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Expansion chamber → Tuned pipe – I support the merge, because there was major duplication across the same topic (although was anything actually merged, or needed merging?). However the name tuned pipe is much better than expansion chamber. It is also the rather more common everyday name for such a system.A tuned pipe is a system used for two-stroke engines with inertial scavenging or the Kadenacy effect. An expansion chamber is one component, albeit a necessary one, of this. However expansion chambers are also found in other exhaust systems, including four-stroke engines where the expansion chamber is only used for silencing (by simple expansion) or for the balancing of exhaust pulses between banks of a vee engine. Neither of these are tuned systems, or have any relation to scavenging. Andy Dingley (talk) 01:09, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Lovin' You → Lovin' You (Minnie Riperton song) – The previous discussion was closed as moved based on statistics and interpretations of statistics. However, there are concerns over the song's qualifications as the "primary topic". Nevertheless, I haven't considered, in the previous discussion, that, according to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, "there is no single criterion for defining a primary topic". In fact, two criteria were used: long-term significance and usage.As I pointed before, usage criteria is totally vague, even when it is spelled "Lovin' You" without the 'g'. WP:PRECISION can distinct two names as two topics with various capitalizations, punctuations, spacing, and other modifications. However, I don't even know "Lovin' You" is also the Minnie Riperton song, as I confused the title as anything related to Elvis Presley or a catchy song of someone else.Which brings me statistics. The Minnie Riperton song in the last 90 days is a popular search term. Meanwhile, The O'Jays song, Japanese song, Kristine W song, and TVXQ song are the least searchables. However, which brings me one question: how familiar is the Minnie Riperton song? Do they have to know Minnie Riperton song of all titles with the same name, "Lovin' You"? George Ho (talk) 15:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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