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    Welcome to the notability noticeboard
    This page is for users seeking advice on notability and whether or not a topic meets Wikipedia's criteria for its own article.
    • Sources showing notability, and whether they meet Wikipedia's general inclusion criteria, will be examined here. Some topics have specific topic guidelines, which are listed below under "Subject-specific guidelines".
    • To show notability, you should list the key evidence of reputable journals, independently published books, reputable news and media sources, widely reputed measures of recognition, and other reliable independent published sources, which show significant attention being paid by those independent sources to the subject of the proposed article. These are crucial and must be available to support an article, as it is a measure of how much the wider unconnected world has shown significant and likely enduring attention.
    Sections older than 31 days archived by MiszaBot II.
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    • For possible non-notability, you should review and summarize the available sources, showing why you feel the criteria are not met.
    • Detailed contents of articles and their quality of writing is not discussed here, and opinions expressed here do not guarantee an article will be kept on Wikipedia (ie, editor feedback and not a formal decision).
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    notability on Size 14 and Robt Ptak Wiki pages

    Hi do you know how I can confirm the notability on the Size 14 and Robt Ptak Wiki pages as both pages have been confirmed by references and sources

    Thankyou

    Justin Duerr

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Duerr

    Notable??

    Should be reviewed.

    (cur | prev) 06:42, 20 January 2013‎ PierceG (talk | contribs)‎ . . (4,322 bytes) (+34)‎ . . (re-adding notability tag. tag has been removed many, many times without explanation by anon users) (undo)

    (cur | prev) 18:37, 20 November 2007‎ Woody (talk | contribs)‎ . . (1,564 bytes) (-11)‎ . . (decline speedy, the many sources indicate his notability) (undo) (cur | prev) 15:48, 20 November 2007‎ 24.30.82.227 (talk)‎ . . (1,575 bytes) (+10)‎ . . (no assertion of notability) (undo) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.78.55.184 (talk)

    Darren Bartlett

    The Darren Bartlett article is an autobiography written primarily by a WP:SPA who has been trying valiantly to add sources to the article. However, the sources are mostly trivial mentions, album credits, youtube videos, coverage of the subject's work and not the subject himself. The article has survived for quite a while.

    I have been reverting the author's attempts to add "buy it here" links to books and such, and he persistently adds them back. He does not seem to understand the concept of a "talk page" in spite of messages to his own.

    How many trivial mentions are equivalent to WP:SIGCOV? Or should this article just go to AFD for further discussion? ~Amatulić (talk) 20:10, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Not much activity on this page, eh? ~Amatulić (talk) 03:57, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    My sentiments exactly. This board is a ghost town. Buddy23Lee (talk) 04:17, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, after about 2 months of no response, I'm inclined to nominate for deletion, but I was really hoping that others would weigh in with their opinions. ~Amatulić (talk) 19:02, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    This person seems to have done nothing that warrants a bio in wikipedia - how do I nominate the article for speedy deletion? 24.108.58.1 (talk) 00:06, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Seem notable enough. Check the ref and see if they pan out. But google shows notable to some extent--Inayity (talk) 09:09, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Please reassess the article's quality and importance ratings. Also, kindly simplify its references. Thank you.

    Eugene Oregon Neighborhoods

    Many new articles about the various neighborhoods in Eugene, Oregon. Are they notable? There is an attempt to make articles on all of the neighborhoods.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Westside,_Eugene,_Oregon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast,_Eugene,_Oregon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_University,_Eugene,_Oregon

    Gary Levy

    Gary Levy was a contestant on Big Brother Canada. He didn't win, although the way the final went down had some controversy. He did nothing notable before Big Brother, nor has his activity since then been noted either. My decision to redirect was contested. I am requesting a review of this topic to determine notability for a standalone article. -- Whpq (talk) 10:48, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    A redirect should work. Even Trayvon redirects.--Inayity (talk) 09:03, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    BVT (company) - It is a German company but there isn't a German article, just an unlinked mention of its existence on the disambig page at de:BVT. Nothing in the article's description suggests particular notability.

    ANI discussion

    This noticeboard is currently under discussion at the Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Link: Notability noticeboard becoming defunct?

    Mysterious Whisper 22:23, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    It has since been archived. I'll be posting a follow-up discussion at the village pump in the near future. Mysterious Whisper 17:16, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    is french painter Michel Bertrand notable enough that I can translate his article

    Hi, someone at the reference desk requested a translation of the French Wikipedia article on French painter Michel Bertrand. [1] I would like to make sure that such a translation would survive – I don’t want to go to all the trouble if someone is just going to delete it. The two issues raised by commenters were reliability (I will ask that at the other notice board) and notability – which is why I’m here. Can you help me understand if this artist is notable enough to make it worth translating his article? According to the French article, He taught in the School of Fine Arts in Perpignan, had writeups in L'Indépendant in 1976 and 1988, has a biography written about him, has six works in the collection of the Musée National d'Art Moderne. His works are also in the collections of Musée Paul Valéry Sète, Musée Art Moderne Céret, Centre Art Contemporain Beaulieu Rouergue, and the Musée d’Art Moderne Saint-Etienne. Thanks. 184.147.137.9 (talk) 21:57, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I would say so, with the presumption you have all the necessary citations to support those claims. As a creative professional, his work is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. Even as a fine arts academic he likely meets the standard, as he appears notable in his art. I've done editing on articles for academic professionals who were deemed notable for less. Buddy23Lee (talk) 18:38, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the reply. Its turning out to be more work than I thought :) Too bad it's not as simple as just translating. 184.147.137.9 (talk) 20:59, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Trond_Lyngbø

    Some guy who works in a small SEO-company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.159.219.65 (talk) 09:28, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Should be deleted.--Inayity (talk) 09:02, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Chen Zenhric Dimayuga

    Born on april 4 1998 at Batangas Provice a MvP Season in uaap'75 juniors division — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.208.26.232 (talk) 07:23, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Asiocentrism how notable is this to have a wikipedia page? The creator has gone about putting links to it in Eurocentrism and Afrocentrism. But there is no serious google weight for this topic. There are no books on Amazon on it. Maybe it should only be a stub. But Let me post it here to get proper feedback. Seems to be the concern of a very small community of advocates (per google search). Add: Just did a check Of the three refs given one is a blog, one is an email and the other is dead. Not one mention of it in Jstor.--Inayity (talk) 08:37, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    It seems pretty plausible that if Eurocentrism and Afrocentrism are deemed notable, the region containing the world's largest population might also be subject to it's own "centrism". I agree though, a g-search for the term comes back with a pittance of results. The synonymous "Asiocentric" fairs a bit better; Google books returns quite a few uses of the term, and Jstor has at least one passing mention here. Nevertheless, that article is in much need of better cites and remember, you are always free to nominate AfD, should you choose to. Buddy23Lee (talk) 18:51, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Exactly, Buddy23Lee. This is what Inayity doesn't seem to get. Even though not much results come in, it's not exactly zero. And the thing does exist. And as you said "AsiocentriC" (with a "c" at the end) does yield more results, and it's a synonymous term as you say. But even he admitted that the overall thing is "barely notable". Meaning that it's still notable.
    This thing does exist, and there are some sources. There was no article on this topic, so I created one. So? WP was lacking an article on this, the concept does definitely exist, (you even know what some in China or Japan or India actually have believed and said and thought on this stuff? Many have a centrist view of Asia...)
    But it's not really something in actuality I was all that concerned with. I was NOT "POV-pushing" in slapping that article together, in my free time. He imputed bad motives on me, which is against WP policy. But again, I was not "POV pushing". I don't really care THAT much about this stuff; this topic is not a major concern of mine really. I just made the page. There are not copious sources for it true, but there are some. It's not zero. But I wasn't necessarily trying to "push" anything. It actually was NOT something I had so big an interest in. Anyway, I'd be curious what other editors (if any even care about this) might say. If they agree with Inayity though, that doesn't technically make them right, but could have similar hang-ups too. But I do respect consensus. But for now, I'm not really bothering anymore with this.
    Again, though...there are not copious sources for it true, but there are some. It's not zero. And the concept or view is not as minor as Inayity tends to think. Regards. Gabby Merger (talk) 19:08, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Dubai World Central projects

    So Dubai World Central and its related pages seem to have no indication of notability from my searches on Google News. Almost all of the subpages have only one reference, which is a non-RS page by the construction company itself. Nearly all of them (perhaps all of them) were created by the same editor, and few if any non-gnome edits have been made on any of them. I have put WP:CSD notices (for notability) on a few of them, and some were deleted while some others were not.

    I would appreciate additional eyes on this.

    As something of an aside, I also note that there is some link to the "skyscrapercity.com" website (such as on the now-deleted pages). I had some previous interaction with a different editor based on another article for a large construction project, whose only references were also from the construction company (a different one) and with some connection to this website. There is an AN/I discussion regarding this. I also am going to make inquiries about the website's RS-status at WP:RSN in the next few days, as there are several hundred links to it from WP pages, and in many cases these are as references. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ] # _ 11:21, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Mandana Dayani

    Recently created article as Mandana Dayani seems to be of questionable notability. Speedy was declined due the original contributor protesting, both myself and the admin concerned are dubious. There is a light smattering of content from reliable sources which I've cleaned up, but I do wonder if the article has been created for promotional reasons rather than any real notability. Rather than go straight to AFD, I thought it might be an idea to pop in and get some opinions here, first. Thanks in advance. Dolescum (talk) 12:04, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    The sources in the article don't really establish notability. The Glamour article is a short piece which doesn't actually cover her in any significant way beyond Dayani answering the same fluff questions asked of the other fashion people in the article, and that's the best source present. The NY Times is a wedding announcement. A campus newspaper is not usable for notability. IMDB is not a reliable source, and Bravo is a primary source. Light coverage exists. I'd venture to say she has a certain degree of fame, but as our notability guidelines indicate, fame is not the same as notability. What notice there is seems to come from The Rachel Zoe Project. -- Whpq (talk) 13:05, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Since her one potential for notability appears to revolve around her association with The Rachel Zoe Project, you could probably merge all relevant material into that article. She's already mentioned in the 'Cast' section. Why not just expand/cite the notes on her and delete the needless article? Buddy23Lee (talk) 17:41, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Howard County, Maryland - County Level Politicians Notable?

    While editing the Howard County, Maryland page I notice that several WP:BLP on County Level Politicians had been created. Based on WP:Politician I notified the creator that I felt these subjects failed notability as they have never held Statewide Office. I also notified a substantial contributor to one of the articles of my concerns. I did not receive feedback from the creator, but I received a note on my talk page from the substantial contributor agreeing. Since I thought the deletion would not be controversial I proceeded to propose deletion. The original creator then posted to my talk page citing significant coverage in local newspapers such as The Washington Post and Baltimore Sun, which I expect to cover the County and removed the WP:PROD tags. I am posting here for guidance because this involves several articles. Please note that Howard County, Maryland has no incorporated cities so a County Level Office is the "lowest" (for lack of a better term) office for which one can be elected. I also visited several other county sites throughout the country and only see a few WP:BLP on County Level Politicians, but a number of those have subsequently served higher office. Several separate articles on Howard County Government Departments (Zoning, Public School System, etc.) have also been created. Notable? Thoughts? MilaPedia (talk) 05:24, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Most of the ones you proposed for deletion are borderline at best. They do fail the first criterion at WP:POLITICIAN, but might meet the second (I doubt they meet the third, as the press coverage is all local and trivial). I'd recommend taking the worst few to AfD, and, if they result in deletions, do the same with the rest. See also WP:POLOUTCOMES, which says "Municipal politicians are not inherently notable just for being in politics, but neither are they inherently non-notable just because they are in local politics. Each case is evaluated on its own individual merits." Mysterious Whisper 12:37, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for the response, appreciate another set of eyes. MilaPedia (talk) 03:44, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Fight for the Reef: An Australian Campaign to save the Great Barrier Reef

    See fightforthereef.org.au. Is this notable? -- Bardi1100 (talk) 03:37, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Probably not. It seems to have been formed quite recently, and hasn't had a chance to do much yet. I can't find any significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources, or at least, not enough to warrant starting a new article. However, you could add mention of it to existing articles, such as Bob Irwin and possibly Great Barrier Reef or Great Barrier Reef Marine Park. Mysterious Whisper 05:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Mark Sutton

    Hi, is Mark Sutton notable? He became well known for his part in the 2012 Olympic opening ceremony, but he has been talked about before then. So, does he require a Wikipedia article? Thanks, Matty.007 07:45, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    The coverage of him by major news outlets and publications (A quick g-search shows at least ABC News and Sports Illustrated) would suggest to me that he probably is. It looks like his death has been widely reported on as well. I'm not sure if anyone is "required" to have a Wikipedia article, but if you have the interest to create an article and the requisite citations to substantiate notability, you are certainly encouraged to do so. There are a number of similar biographies you could probably use to guide you listed in the stunt performers article. Buddy23Lee (talk) 18:53, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the help, I will start a sandbox article. Matty.007 19:29, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Cory Kennedy

    This article has been tagged for deletion due to lack of notability since 2010 and it does not appear that any appropriate action has been taken. Can an administrator please delete this page?--Soulparadox (talk) 08:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    It doesn't look bad enough for a speedy or prod; try AfD. Mysterious Whisper 10:39, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    plabanee patnaik (pp)

    she is a great popular emerging singer on youtube with a tremendous voice. she is an indian singer .born in 1997. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.169.132.254 (talk) 10:12, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Kili (Parrot)

    I found the following page: Kili (Parrot) and felt that it wasn't notable enough to warrant an article of its own. After attempting to flag it for speedy deletion, however, an IP with a blank edit history removed the template. Can anybody assist with this? Ξnvelope Salad {TC} 00:29, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Speedy deletions can be easily challenged, and there is a very low bar to clear. Just nominate it for deletion through Articles for Deletion. -- Whpq (talk) 02:03, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks. Makes sense. Ξnvelope Salad {TC} 02:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Tubefilter

    If a web series, actor/actress, blogger, or "youtube celebrity" articles relies mainly on Tubefilter as a source to show it is notable, should it be considered notable?

    Keeping in mind, this source covers only this type of content, it describes itself as

    • "Our mission at Tubefilter is simple – to grow the audience of online video."[2] They also created and run the Streamy Awards which is
    • "to recognize and honor excellence in online video"[3] and International Academy of Web Television
    • "is devoted to the advancement of the arts and sciences of web television production. In 2009, the IAWTV held the first Streamy Awards ceremony, an annual event created to recognize excellence in web television production."[4]

    So if a source is clearly promoting a developing industry, in this case web television, does it still make the subject notable?--Otterathome (talk) 16:51, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    It's always troubling when any article has to rely too heavily on one source for notability. Basic policies, such as WP:BASIC, generally recommend multiple sources. So, presumably, you'd be able to substantiate an articles notability with sources beyond Tubefilter. I'm not personally familiar with Tubefilter, but at first glace it looks like video blog site and is probably not a particularly good source. I think you're probably on the right track with WP:SPIP. Nonetheless, this noticeboard exists primarily to discuss the notability of individual articles, not the validity of sources. You'd probably get a much better response for that at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Buddy23Lee (talk) 17:43, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not that straight forward, as there's several of these types of websites which are then used in the article to make it appear notable. For example Tilzy.tv and newteevee.com. Example articles include Poor Paul, LG15:_The_Resistance, N1ckola, LG15: The Last, LG15: Outbreak. They are just the ones I know.--Otterathome (talk) 19:01, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    David Mahmoudieh

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Mahmoudieh&action=edit&redlink=1

    I think this page should be undeleted. Seems to be some strange, vendetta-esque, activity going on here with this page. It's been on Wikipedia for a number of years, the information growing and being verified and approved all the while, then suddenly gets deleted. The subject matter and the information provided therein dove-tails into a number of pre-existing pages on this subject, who is a recognised filmmaker in both the British and Iranian film communities, and an award winning music video and commercials director. Seems very strange that the page should suddenly be deleted.

    The deleter noted there was not enough proof of notoriety. However, on the first page alone of a Google search under the subject's name, the following links appear providing credibility and notoriety:

    I would like petition for the re-listing of this page with the above references added.

    Jimdussier (talk) 01:58, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    I see no evidence of "vendetta-esque, activity"; please assume good faith. The page was deleted three times by three separate administrators: first, because the only content was "David Mahmoudieh (Born London, England).London-born Canadian/Iranian screenwriter."; second, because of this AfD discussion; and the third (just yesterday) based on CSD A7: "No indication of importance" (which is actually a lower standard than notability). I am unable to view the contents of the deleted page, but if it didn't meet CSD#A7, there's little hope of meeting the notability guidelines (WP:GNG & WP:FILMMAKER). And I agree with User:Whpq that none of the links above show the significant coverage in independent, reliable sources needed to prove notability. ʍw 11:00, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    For those editor who might wonder why I am being agreed with, see these posting on my talk page. -- Whpq (talk) 12:35, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, while I hate to keep referencing people to different noticeboards, requesting undeletion of an article is an issue that's probably better suited for the administrators' noticeboard and the like. Even if we formed consensus here that the article did meet notability, you'd still need an admin to undelete it. Buddy23Lee (talk) 23:31, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    Omar J. Jones and M. Courtney Watson Relisted

    Based on advice I receive here I nominated some WP:BLPs of Howard County politicians to Afd. Most got clear consensus, but these two got caught up in an irrelevant banter about the merits of copy/pasting. They have both been stagnant since the relisting a couple of days ago. I would appreciate an objective look-see if someone has the time. Thanks! MilaPedia (talk) 12:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]