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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

• Maxim Berezovsky: The hook's statement is presented as fact, when the cited source used to pass the DYK nom refers to this burning of papers as a "widespread legend". Another editor added a new cited source for the same statement, but it, too, also refers to it as a "guess" and one of many "myths and legends" around the composer's life. At the very least, the hook in its present wording has WP:VOICE issues. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 16:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

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Errors in the summary of the featured picture

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General discussion

Introducing this talk page

A newcomer to this talk page is greeted with: "Welcome! This page is for discussing the organization and layout of the main page."

That's a lie. Anybody trying to redesign the Main Page is greeted with groans of "Oh no, not again!" We might tell them to go somewhere like Wikipedia:Main page redesign proposals and be ignored. If discussion breaks out here anyway, we all know where it will lead: nobody will endorse anybody else's idea without changes, and no individual's concept, not even yours, will get a consensus. So it's ridiculous to say that's what "This page is for".

It goes on: "It isn't for general questions ..."

General questions are the opposite of specific questions. So if I complain here that my big brother won't stop calling me a wumblebutt, that isn't a general question, that is a specific question specifically about wumblebutts.

"... or for encyclopedic content."

Another lie. Everything on this page is about something on Wikipedia, which is an encyclopedia, so everything here violates the rule against discussing encyclopedic content. Except wumblebutts. That isn't content on any encyclopedia, so it's OK to discuss that.

Reading on to the bottom of the brown rectangle, we find: "Question help: to find out more about where to ask questions ..."

In other words, if newcomers with nothing better to do have wasted ten minutes reading this far, we expect them to waste another 20 minutes reading another page. We can't imagine they would just ask their question and get it over with.

And even when I edit this page, it says in red letters: "This is NOT the place to make suggestions for Main Page content. Please direct your suggestion to one of the forums listed above or your post may be removed or ignored."

Once again, everything here is about Main Page content. Well, everything except wumblebutts. Art LaPella (talk) 22:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

This page is about discussing the organization and layout of the main page. You should take your specific concerns to Wikipedia:Village pump.--WaltCip (talk) 22:17, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

It's also the most relevant page for discussing the organization of this talk page. Art LaPella (talk) 22:20, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

• I generally agree with your points Art. The first sentence should be changed to:

Welcome! This page is for discussing the organization and layout contents of the main page.

We could say "current contents", but sometimes there are discussions about controversial content which is going to be displayed in the near future, so "contents" should be sufficient.

You are reading too much into the second sentence though. The "general questions" part implies general questions not related to the contents of the main page. I believe the second part is an attempt to dissuade the common occurrence of drive-by IPs dumping random "encyclopedic content" about their new start up business or amateur football team on this talk page. So for clarity, the second sentence could be rewritten as:

It isn't for general questions unrelated to the main page or for the addition of contents to Wikipedia articles.

I think these changes are fairly uncontroversial and would help clarify the first two sentences. Whether people read beyond that or listen the advice is out of our hands. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:41, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Much better. I agree that is what the second sentence is supposed to mean, and that the clarification explains it better. Art LaPella (talk) 01:06, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

 Done Art LaPella (talk) 20:32, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

The problem here is that users who come to discuss the current contents are generally told that they should have raised the issue at WP:ERRORS. The cynic in me is tempted to suggest Welcome! This talk page is for discussing the contents of this talk page. Optimist on the run (talk) 12:55, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

The free encyclopedia that anyone can edit?

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Blocked users cannot edit Wikipedia. Why not put an asterisk by "The free encyclopedia that anyone can edit" and put at the bottom of the page in small font with the words (not blocked users)? UpsandDowns1234 15:46, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

No, anyone can still edit. Blocked editors were allowed to edit until they decided that being an asshole was more important than being useful. So they are part of anyone. No one blocks anyone without prior evidence of assholery. --Jayron32 17:57, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

While we're at it, let's add: "Offer only applies to literate humans (or other human-level intelligences) with access to a computer and Internet connection. Void where prohibited. Side effects may include filling out reference templates in your sleep. Do not operate heavy machinery while editing Wikipedia until you know how editing Wikipedia affects you. Consult your doctor to find out whether editing Wikipedia is right for you." --47.138.161.183 (talk) 18:11, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Being blocked does not stop someone from editing. It does stop them from editing with that username/IP but it does not keep them from editing. If it did there would be a whole lot less work around here. The only thing that really stops most people from editing is page protection. The number of people who can edit Main page is a very small percentage of the total editing population. If we were to add any disclaimer, (I am not advocating one) it should be unless the page you want to edit is protected. ~ GB fan 18:20, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is highly centralized. It's gotten worse when specific organizations and lobbies are (only) allowed to edit pages to promote products or ideologies. Wikipedia is compromised and should never be thought of as a primary source for anything. Use it as a jumping off point to research on other sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.196.58 (talk)

The primary intent of Wikipedia #is# to be a starting point/seeing what has already been done - and the talk pages to help people advance their understanding.

IP - do you mean only certain bodies are allowed to edit some pages, or that such bodies are only allowed to edit those pages (but not others). And it is those who are most interested in a topic (in the various senses of the phrase) who are likely to develop the pages in question beyond the stub stage. Jackiespeel (talk) 09:06, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

It's a slogan, not a conclusion in a scientific journal.

No real person is confused because the slogan doesn't contain a list of disclaimers explicitly specifying in detail the set of circumstances for which it is strictly true.ApLundell (talk) 16:46, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

• It does say "anyone", not "everyone" -- the implication being that anyone with an internet connection whose IP range isn't blocked and isn't blocked themselves can edit. Eman235/talk 19:51, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
• I'm sorry if this is harsh but to me this question seems like trolling, so I guess my response would be don't feed the trolls (but my second response would be - having seen this type of thing before - someone just put a FAQ at the top, so whenever this is raised - one person can go see FAQ). Alanscottwalker (talk) 20:15, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
• This being a webpage, it uses hyperlinks instead of an asterisk. If you bother to click on the "anyone can edit" phrase, you'll be directed to the Wikipedia:Introduction page, and from there to other pages about editing, policies and so on, where all the caveats and conditions on editing Wikipedia are detailed, including information about blocked users. That is too much information to be put on small font at the bottom of the page. 186.228.52.36 (talk) 12:09, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

So what are the proportions of 'constructive contributions'; 'neutral/trying something out (which they are not always able to immediately correct); newbies, persons using another language, and others needing some help and greater leniency; persons with a (peculiar) sense of humour (not necessarily shared by others); look-at-mes, trolls and other categories of nuisance (against whom the best 'revenge' is treating them nicely)?

The problem with the MP talk page is that it attracts the 'general enlighten my interest' remarks which cannot always be distinguished from Rationalwiki's 'Just asking questions' and actual trolls.

If you are an innocent bystander on a blocked IP you are provided with means of resolving the issue. 193.132.104.10 (talk) 15:16, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Early comment

Wikipedia is allowed an occasional outburst of attempted humour on the Main Page. This is part of Wikipedia's cultural heritage, and so should be protected and enjoyed. 31.49.115.137 (talk) 21:07, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

I for one am quite happily anticipating tomorrow's main page. Eman235/talk 21:34, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

I wish there were less...crude...jokes in DYK (as usual), but otherwise, it's great. ansh666 04:48, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

The answer, generally, is start finding better ones for this time next year - or 'intriguing hooks' for use on days in between.

Is the IP's comment on Wikipedia having a cultural heritage correct? Jackiespeel (talk) 09:34, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Pavan Kumar N R

Pavan Kumar N R
File:Pavan kumar n r.jpg Pavan kumar N R at mangalore 2017,SSE,Mangalore
Born	Pavan Kumar N R (1997-10-27) 27 October 1997 Chitradurga city,India
Nationality	India
Occupation(s)	web designer,Student at SSE,Mangalore.
Known for	founder of swechat
Title	app developer

Pavan Kumar N R (born October 10, 1997) is a web designer and founder of swechat.He is best known as the inventor of Swechat, which is an social networking application.Pavan Kumar N R has been recognised as the "Teenage app Developer",at just 19 years of age.As of February 2017,He was intrested in Aeronautics,Computer science and also intrested in 3D modiling design using software called "Autodesk maya".Swechat is developed by using Google cloud messenging(GCM) and Android studio technology used.Swechat is Published to Amezonapp store and sold by Amezon Digital LLC later Opera app stores,Getjar and mobango published.Pavan Kumar N R was awarded "Student ambassador award" by V P ikkeri (IAS) Deputy commissinor of chitradurga in the year 2012.At the age of 18 Pavan Kumar N R decided to develop social networking application.He developed swechat is popular across the country nowadays that is in United states of America,netharland and northern region.swechat app almost 10,000 users are Downloaded. Swechat has had Best Apps of 2017 for "Social networking" and currently has a 4.5/5 star rating on the other App Store.Pavan kumar N R was a social servicer,Leader and lover of nature.He completed Pre university in Donbosco PU College completed with computer science stream by the prof.Nassiya Tabasum.He wrote JEE Mains and got the seat of aircraft maintanence engineering in pune and madhya pradesh.Now he is studying in Srinivas school of engineering,Mangalore present. Pavan Kumar N R Decided to develop ios apps for apple users he is waiting to get licence aggrement with Apple america.He also intrested in Make in india project under Indian prime minister Narendra modi.He is nominating member of "young global business india" in further few years.He was inspired by the British app developer Nick D'Alosio.:"We See More Than We Report"

Personal life

Pavan Kumar N R Was Born in Chitradurga city,India.His Father is a Central government employee KVIC CSP as supervisor(foreman) in chitradurga District.his mother was house wife and he also had a helder sister.He completed nursury in Holy Boys church in chitradurga,started studying in the school of Rotary international.Pavan kumar N R in 10 years old wants to become an fighter pilot in IAF and also intrested in Defence research and development organisation.

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Karnataka state jamboorate in Banglore 2012

He was joined Bharath Scouts and Guides in the year 2005 as completed "Rajayapuraskar award" in 2013.After he joined NCC ARMD SQN 25/36 coy junior under officer in 2013.

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under 16 cricket tounnament 2012

Pavan Kumar N R intrested in Dance,Sports,Swimming and other cultural activitys.In high school days he selected taluq level Cricket and Volley ball.He complited Pre-University in Donbosco PU College,chitradurga.further Higher studies he move to Srinivas school of engineering,mukka,suratkal,mangalore. Present

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celebrating after senergy with team 2014

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Hotel Amogha international 2014l

Sucess in Swechat

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swechat icon

Swechat is a social networking app.developed by Indian teenage app developer Pavan Kumar N R and his Team in the year 2017.This app is popular across all over the countrys.swechat application reached almost 17 countries.This app is the worlds fastest mesenging app it is free and secure.swechat develivers messages faster than any other app.swechat is free forever.No subscription fees.swechat keeps your messages safe from hacker attacks.Swechat has no limits on the size of your media and chats.This app conformation code given by the telegram FAQ "Swechat with Telegram".Swechat lets you access your messages from multiple devices,messages are heavily encrypted and can self-destruct.Swechat is very attrative and easy to use.Pavan Kumar N R decided to develop ios apps and waiting for licence aggregment by Apple inc.
According to Amezonappstore survey.. Technical details Size: 20.2MB Version: 0.1 Developed By: Pavan kumar N R Application Permissions: ( Help me understand what permissions mean ) Read the user's contacts data Access the list of accounts in the Accounts Service Read the sync settings Allows an application to install a shortcut in Launcher Act as an AccountAuthenticator for the AccountManager Open windows using the type TYPE_SYSTEM_ALERT, shown on top of all other applications READ_PROFILE Get notified that the operating system has finished booting Write to external storage Access fine (e.g., GPS) location Allows an application to uninstall home screen shortcuts Access coarse (e.g., Cell-ID, Wi-Fi) location Access information about networks PowerManager WakeLocks to keep processor from sleeping or screen from dimming Access information about Wi-Fi networks USE_FINGERPRINT Write (but not read) the user's contacts data Manage the list of accounts in the AccountManager Allows an application to receive messages via Google Cloud Messaging Allows installation of home screen shortcuts com.google.android.providers.gsf.permission.READ_GSERVICES Monitor incoming SMS messages, to record or perform processing on them Access the vibration feature Record audio Write the sync settings Open network sockets Read from external storage Read only access to device state Minimum Operating System: Android 4.0 Approximate Download Time: Less than 3 minutes.
Drawbacks...
1 swechat doesnot support status.
2 only for android users
3 It takes lot of time to download from amezonapp store.
4 Too many ads.

Achivements

• He Selected district level science modeling with his team in the year 2009.
  
• He also Got Student ambassador award by VP ikkeri(IAS) in the year 2012.
  
• selected District level marshal arts in karate with yellow belt in 2005.
  
• He selected for taluq level under 16 cricket tournment and volley ball in the year 2013.
  
• He got Gama abacus accadamy,consalation prize in in the year 2008 and 2009.
  
• Senergy compitation culture fest got first place in 2013 second place in 2014.
  
• Rajayapuraskar award by scouts in the year 2013.
  
• He Developed swechat social networking application and got the tittle of Teenage app developer by Amezon Digital LLC in 2017.
  
• swechat app reached almost 17 countries.
  
• 10000 users are downloaded swechat app.

See also

• News aggregator
• Multi-document summarization
• Text mining

Reference

• Published in amezonapp stores in 19 Feb 2017.
  
• swechat organisation
• developer and founder of swechat.