User talk:Saqib/Archive 2

I see you created new pages for the new federal ministries...

I updated the page List of federal agencies of Pakistan with them. Since the websites of the ministries haven't yet been updated, I guessed and updated what agencies are likely to be placed under them. You can update your pages with that information if you like. Regards. --113.203.196.207 (talk) 21:56, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

And you're from the Russian Federation? Wait didn't your page say you were from Canada before? Well, a Pakistani Canadian? And your name was Sikander? Hello from a fellow Pakistani Canadian! Why the change though? Kya choparah ho bhai? :0 --113.203.196.207 (talk) 22:02, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh wait, my mistake. I was confusing you with the user Siqbal. --113.203.196.207 (talk) 22:06, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

And just wondering, why so much interest with our country Pakistan btw? Just wondering. --113.203.196.207 (talk) 22:06, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Cabinet Secretariat of Pakistan

Hi Saqib. Your page is a copy of one I have already made (Cabinet Secretariat (Pakistan)). Plus it lacks content in comparison to mine. Thus it should be deleted. --113.203.196.207 (talk) 21:35, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Techno-Trend

I have given reference links to the article I have published yesterday, even then it is showing it as "Recommened for deletion". Please help..

Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Techno-Trend (talk • contribs) 04:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC) --Techno-Trend (talk) 18:02, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Danial Schon

Saqib i notice that Danial Schon page is diverting to Schon Properties. Can you please assist why did this happen? Mahmoodyaqub (talk) 10:14, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Ishaq Dar

Hey Saqib, I already put a reference. Please tell me how to drop that deletion tag here. Ahmed Ali Raza (talk) 12:43, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Although I grew up with the -or spelling of adviser, I believe the -er spelling is now more common. See the Usage notes at [1].  – Corinne (talk) 00:07, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you User:Corinne. --Saqib (talk) 07:14, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Aamir Liaquat

Instead of removing unsourced content from Aamir Liaquat, you should be finding and adding reliable sources. After your edits, his TV career is in ugly shape. - Mfarazbaig —Preceding undated comment added 12:01, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Mfarazbaig: I am working on the page. Please give it some time. The page will surely be in good shape pretty soon and meet Wikipedia's quality standards. --Saqib (talk) 12:05, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

I am just hoping your trimming/content removal won't reduce it to a stub or start class. One can always add [citation needed] tags instead of removal. Good luck on your efforts.- Mfarazbaig —Preceding undated comment added 12:12, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Mfarazbaig: We don't need to add [citation needed] tags anymore when we already have a large 'BLP source' tag on top of the page. I guess its time to be bold and clean up the page to remove the unsourced and inaccurate material. --Saqib (talk) 13:01, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

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Hi Saqib! Sorry, I couldn't edit the page for a long time, but he have not left the channel, as there was no official announcement. He earlier told on 13 August on his (last appearance) show that he will be going to Supreme Court (of Islamabad, but he lives in Khi and his show is also recorded from Khi) to file a case against filming of Indian content in Pakistan. Then he went Dubai to launch a branch of his business. It could also be possible that he is working on his film, as revealed in January 2016, also on 13 Auguat 2017 by himself. And today, it is reported that he will be seen in tonight's show on Bol TV as regular. Since, there was no official statements on it, people (I think) started making the guess-news after they saw a masked-voiceover in his show and actor Nabeel in game show. Therefore, any updates that were done during this time period can be reverted, and page can be made as was before. Thanks! :) M. Billoo 16:16, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Sure. Go ahead and make the changes @M.Billoo2000:. --Saqib (talk) 16:19, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Lal Sena/GA1

Saqib, you opened this review over a month ago, but only wrote a few words, which leads me to believe that you are not prepared to do a full GA review based on the GA criteria or per the GA instructions. (Reviews should typically be completed within a week.)

Also, one of things you said was not only inaccurate, but it isn't properly a GA criterion: you say there are too many red links when there aren't any in the article, and red links are typically irrelevant to whether an article is a Good Article or not.

If you are not prepared to do a full GA review now, I can arrange for the nomination to be returned to pool of unreviewed nominations for someone else to pick up on. Please let me know as soon as possible; if I do not hear from you soon I will assume that I should arrange for that return. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:28, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset:: I had just thrown in my 2 cents in the review. I let you arrange a new reviewer for the page. --Saqib (talk) 07:59, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, Saqib. The thing is, when you open a review, it's supposed to be a commitment to do a complete review, not just make a comment or two. In future, simply comment on the article's talk page, or wait for someone else to open the review and comment then. As it stands, I'm going to have to have the page deleted as part of the return to the reviewing pool; no one will take over the review from you. BlueMoonset (talk) 08:07, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Gurmehar Kaur

Hi, the subst didn't go into the AFD log properly for that one, I removed it and put it back in at the top of the log. Cheers. South Nashua (talk) 20:16, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

aizaz chaudhry

Respected Sir ! Aizaz ch a member of Pti from Punjab assembly belonhs to Arain caste of punjab not kamboh , there is a difference between the two . This is the reason that he is also married in arain family of lahore . Arain s donot marry outside the caste , if aizaz ch would have been a kamboh an arain would not married him , so kindly correct this ! Mehr Hassan (talk) 10:07, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Ejaz Caudhry ! * Mehr Hassan (talk) 10:10, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Mian mehmood ur rasheed

Respected Saqib sahb ! I dont know but it seems like you have some personal rage against arains ! Both Mian mehmood and Ajaz Choudhry belong form the arain caste ! Please correct it and for proofs please provide your facebook or email adress ! Mehr Hassan (talk) 10:18, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

@Mehr Hassan:: I don't have any problem, but you will have to provide a reliable source to support your claim that the personalities belongs to Arain group. Please avoid adding unsourced material. --Saqib (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Tariq Basheer Cheema

Your editing version read that Cheema sahab stood in a by-election in 2012 and lost. WHO THE HELL is providing you with such baseless information. Cheema sahab was elected as district nazim twice and then took part in 2013 elections and won from his home seat. There was a by election in 2012 for the MPA seat and Alhamdullilah PML defeated PMLN. Get your damn facts right! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.114.139.254 (talk) 20:18, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Okay, but can you please stay cool and avoid derogatory language. It can get you blocked and page in question locked. Do you know the years he served as District Nazim of Bahawalpur? --Saqib (talk) 20:33, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

My apologies. Look like an intelligent person. He served from 2001-2010. Also my addition seems to be overwritten by you. So could you please add Minister food and agriculture from 1993-1996 and current secretary General of PML. If you would like a link please google. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:CDC1:9F00:49FC:225F:8458:1201 (talk) 00:58, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

I can see someone else has now taken care of the page and expanding it wisely. --Saqib (talk) 07:47, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Not updating anything new to the page. Just the format.

Saqib just updating the format. Please stop reverting. It follows Wikipedia format. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cesc44 (talk • contribs) 06:59, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Attack pages

Hi, Saqib. You tagged Draft:Syed Jafar Hussain Shah Shaheed and Draft:Nadeem Sarwar for speedy deletion as attack pages. However, neither page displays any clear attack. Therefore, I have declined both. It would be appreciated if could you can explain to me the problem with these biography pages or what I am missing. Thanks. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 23:28, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Responded on your user talk page already. --Saqib (talk) 23:30, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

April 2017

Hello. I noticed that you attempted to file a deletion discussion on the article Rehmat Aziz Chitrali but did not complete the process. Please note that, when listing an article for deletion, a discussion page needs to be made for other users to discuss whether to keep or delete the article. This is typically done by following the steps listed here. Note that if you are editing as an unregistered user, you cannot create a discussion page. Please consider registering an account or asking another user to help you complete the process at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion. Thank you. ansh666 05:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Faisal Javed Khan for deletion

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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Faisal Javed Khan until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Speedy deletion declined: Harish Vaswani

Hello Saqib. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Harish Vaswani, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Winning a notable award indicates significance. Thank you. SoWhy 09:42, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Abeer Rizvi

Why are you trying to delete the page I have created? If you think that is incomplete page, please add material to make it complete and according to wikipedia rules as you have mentioned in your profile page that you are working on Pakistani Personalities. Abeer Rizvi is pakistani actress and she debuted in Pakistani film Raasta. Gather material and make this page legal. I am simply a user of Wikipedia and not familiar with many of its rules. Rather than pulling legs of fellow Pakistani, you should help him in completing the page. Thanks Toafzaal Talk Me 13:52, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

@Toafzaal:: I don't see her meeting the criteria on entertainers therefore I nominated her bio for deletion. --Saqib (talk) 14:52, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Ammad Azhar

Hi Saqib, Please please pleaseeeeeeeeee help me improve my article as to where should i focus on...as i have even given reference links by Express Tribune and Samaa, what more is required. I was trying to add Ammad Azhar picture on the article but im clueless as to how and will it help. Soulmatrix (talk) 1:49, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

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Help Understand Notability

Hi Saqib,

I had heard about wikipedia's rigorous scrutiny but didn't realize that it was this brutal. I am new & I honestly have a steep learning curve to go through. You're a senior and I would really appreciate your help in learning how I got here where my article is up for deletion & how can I get out of this situation. My page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zunera is marked for deletion because of notability. I was very careful when choosing to write about her

she is featured on CNN three times.

Editorial CNN Editorial Featured guest on CNN Zunera as featured guest on CNN 1 Zunera as featured guest on CNN 2

ABC News Twice ABC News Appearance 1 ABC News appearance 2

Express Tribune (Sister Publication of New York Times) Express Tribune Article

Sunday Magazine Sunday Magazine Interview

These are mainstream media publications of two very big countries US & Pakistan- how much more notable can one get than that? Kindly help me incorporate this information so that the notability issue is resolved & we can save this page from deletion.Thecapital15 (talk) 06:45, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Warning

Saqib, if I see you edit again without logging in to avoid WP:SCRUTINY, you risk being blocked for socking.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:24, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ishaq Dar

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Mohsin Nawaz is a great motivational speaker

Hello Saqib, Its highly appreciated for your quick response. I know Mosin Sir personally. He is a known personality having many appearances on TV and Radio shows.

In your message you mentioned that there are many SPA issues, can you point out them. As per my knowledge all the links in this page are genuine and true and his page must stay on Wikipedia. It deserves to be there.

Kindly guide me in this regard. Thanks in advance Fdeeba (talk) 12:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Saving page from deletion

Dear Saqib, thank you for the help. Actually Mr Mohsin Nawaz's Wikipedia page received a message titled , "This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy". To save it i have posted my review about him, however please guide me what else can I do to save the page from deletion. Regards Haroon Christy (talk) 13:02, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Done

I have done that work. You may see and correct the names according to your articles. I have used full names as I'm not good at Pakistani articles. Thanks. Greenbörg (talk) 06:08, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

@Greenbörg: Thanks. BTW, do you think it would be good idea to add a new column (Party of incumbent before election) in the List of members of the 14th National Assembly of Pakistan, similar to List_of_MPs_elected_in_the_United_Kingdom_general_election,_2017#List_of_MPs_elected_in_the_general_election.?--Saqib (talk) 14:39, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Biased

Hi, you have removed tags but I believe that these articles are biased. How can we please resolve this? I think some sort of neutral review is called for by senior and objective editors here. Thanks. I am replacing these tags if possible. 39.54.50.130 (talk) 19:30, 9 July 2017 (UTC)Col (r) Mumtaz , Pakistan

See Talk:Nisar_Ali_Khan#Biased article and respond. --Saqib (talk) 10:42, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

WLE winners

Hi, please add more description on winning photos pages, there should be proper names of nature sites or, please, contact authors if you don`t know. Name like "Natural Beauty of Pakistan" is no good for an encyclopedia. Thanks and congrats with finishing WLE! --AnnaKhrobolova (WMUA) (talk) 10:16, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Sure, --Saqib (talk) 10:30, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Citation Barnstar
	Thanks for adding sources per WP:RS. I hope you will continue. Cheers. Greenbörg (talk) 10:11, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Email

Hello, Saqib! Could I get your email? Thanks. Greenbörg (talk) 10:31, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

@Greenbörg: Sure, email me via Special:EmailUser/Saqib. --Saqib (talk) 10:32, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib:

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Akhlas Akhlaq

Can you help me fix the references section (i.e.. title, author , publishing date)? Thank you.--Boxman88 (talk) 21:50, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

@Boxman88:. I have fixed the links, meanwhile removed some unreliable sources. --Saqib (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Requer USC

Dear Saqib, Assalam o Alykum, Saqib please help me in this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Baba while i have created this article about Khan Baba, but wikipedia deleting my article. I have provided a strong reference links. Then why they want to delete this article. Please help me for creating in this article. If there is any thing missing in article so please you can edit and remove or add the usefull what wikipedia want to do by me. Hope you will help me. Thank you.! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Requer USC (talk • contribs) 09:07, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Response your email

Apparently the sockpuppet category was created now based on the sockpuppet template on User talk:69.248.91.135, in response to some edits made in 2006. The original sockpuppet user is now called. User:Saqib (usurped)~enwiki because you took their name. If you usurp someone's username then such confusions are to be expected.

I have now changed the category and template to point to the other username.

PS: I recommend trying to resolve on-wiki issues on wiki talkpages, not email. -- intgr [talk] 12:38, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. appreciated. --Saqib (talk) 12:39, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Deletion

Hello Saqib! You could see it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Wise Way. Thanks. Greenbörg (talk) 12:51, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Noted. --Saqib (talk) 12:56, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Saqib,

You are considering my page for deletion. Kindly go through the references I've provided and suggest what to do. Kindly put it for deletion again and again. I am doing it for the first time and I need some help. Plus I do believe that community artists must get some recognition.

Regards Kashan Khan Sherazi (talk) 20:26, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

I meant to say don't put it up for deletion Kashan Khan Sherazi (talk) 20:27, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

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Expand the article

Hello, Saqib. I have started new stub which you may expand because you are better at Pakistani politics. Thanks, Greenbörg (talk) 09:11, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

For sure, thanks! --Saqib (talk) 09:16, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Being a pedant

FYI, I presume you really mean "weak delete'" instead of "week delete" which could suggest you mean delete in a week's time. It's not for me to alter your post and yes, I'm being pedantic but twice did not seem like a missed keystroke. Cheers. ww2censor (talk) 09:17, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

It was a typo. --Saqib (talk) 09:27, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

WP:BREAKING

Hello, Saqib. Please don't rush to update articles per WP:BREAKING. Wait for the time so the sources can grow. Thanks, Greenbörg (talk) 07:36, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

@Greenbörg: Noted. But since the Prime Minister has been disqualified, the entire cabinet stands dissolved. --Saqib (talk) 07:40, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Hussain Nawaz

Is there a reason why you deleted his father's name from the article? Harfarhs (talk) 17:45, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

@Harfarhs: I thought it is already mentioned. I re-added it. --Saqib (talk) 17:59, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Harfarhs (talk) 18:14, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Nice work with the expansion of Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and related articles. A lot of the information on him was unknown previously, and I am sure most readers will find the current version of the article highly useful. Mar4d (talk) 14:20, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for appreciating @Mar4d:. I am hoping to get the bio up to GA status. --Saqib (talk) 14:32, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Revised History of Pakistan template

I took my Saturday off and decided to completely re-write Template:History of Pakistan. I'm almost certain the editor there (who I unfortunately have come to have known over the past few months) will revert my edits without any reason. The Overseas Pakistani article (which I also edited significantly 2 months ago) was also in the cross hairs of this particular editor who I will not name. Kindly let me know if my edits are acceptable. I have no problems with the template being edited again, but to revert the template to the previous one (which was extremely bad) would be criminal. I have also started a section in the talk page of the template article where I have given my reasons for editing. --PAKHIGHWAY (talk) 05:09, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Notice Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 August 8#Duraid Qureshi

Hi there,

You recently listed Duraid Qureshi at AfD at WP:Articles for deletion/Duraid Qureshi. I closed the discussion at AfD, and moved it to RfD. Any future discussion should take place there. Thanks, menaechmi (talk) 14:39, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Okay thank you! --Saqib (talk) 14:53, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Shahid Khaqan Abbasi

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Thank you @Royroydeb:. --Saqib (talk)

Review Article

Hello Saqib Dear,

I added references to my page and the deletion tag still exists. please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kashan Khan Sherazi (talk • contribs) 21:02, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Underground Musicians/Singers of Pakistan

Hi Saqib, I created this profile for making Wikipedia pages of some underground musicans of Pakistan who are famous in small audience and doing good work under less resources and exposure. Please help me in making their pages and please remove your deletion request on Talha Nadeem's page as this is my first page. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talha_Nadeem) Please give me some guidance as well on this, I'll be very thankful to you. Regards, Waleed Amin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PakistaniMusic1 (talk • contribs) 17:43, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

2017 dengue outbreak in Peshawar

Hi, I jus creat 2017 dengue outbreak in Peshawar please review this page. and 2nd I want to add this page in the news on the main page. Thanks! Wisal Ahmad (talk) 18:50, 24 Aug 2017 (UTC)

@Wisalahmad523: I've reviewed the page however I do not see it being featured on the main page. This is a not major event. --Saqib (talk) 13:52, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

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SPI notifications

Hi Saqib, thank you for your vigilance regarding reporting socks at SPI. One minor quibble, however, is that it is often preferable not to notify prolific socks that you have opened a new case (such as with Pakistanpedia). Although they are likely watching the SPI page, posting to their talk gives them a "heads up" that a block is likely imminent and a head start on creating new accounts (or becoming even more destructive) before a checkuser or admin can block the sock account. This is why notifying the sock/master is not listed as a requirement in the instructions. If the connection is tenuous between the accounts, or if the suspected sock is a trusted user, notifying them of the case is a good idea, though again there is no point in notifying the master account if it is an indefinitely blocked LTA master.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 20:39, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Noted @Ponyo:. By the way, I want to draw your attention towards Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ptcloof khan. The suspected account User:SahabAliwadia has been blocked already for some other reason so should the SPI be closed? --Saqib (talk) 06:07, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I would leave it open until the Clerks can evaluate the evidence. If it's endorsed for Checkuser and they are found to be socking, the block may be modified.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 16:07, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

2017 Karachi floods and 2017 dengue outbreak in Peshawar

please review 2017 Karachi floods page and please update the informations by yourself or refer to someone, as well as update 2017 dengue outbreak in Peshawar too. Thanks! Wisal Ahmad (talk) 16:03, 01 Sept 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Shahid Khaqan Abbasi

The article Shahid Khaqan Abbasi you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Shahid Khaqan Abbasi for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Royroydeb -- Royroydeb (talk) 06:02, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks @Royroydeb:. --Saqib (talk) 06:26, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Saqib! Congratulations on updating BLP of our prime minister to good article level. Good work!

I have something to say, maybe you have noted too. I think there is repetition of references, and some references are ordered wrongly. Like for example, "Early life and education"; 15 references only are inserted 29 times, with one non-ascending order like [11][4][2]. Can I check out there a little? Thanks! M. Billoo 19:01, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Sure @M.Billoo2000:. Go ahead and fix it but please make sure you don't remove any reference. --Saqib (talk) 07:42, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000: I have seen you edits but sad to relate that I am not satisfied with removal of mass citations. Many information that was previously well cited now giving the impression of original research. In my opinion, we should revert back to its earlier version to avoid getting it tagged with . --Saqib (talk) 07:54, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi! It's OK if you think that I removed mass, you can re-add if you wish. Just recently, I had messaged on Talk:Don't Say You Love Me (M2M song)#Featured article? about same matter, and I got one reply too. One more thing, what is meant by reflist|30em? Thanks! M. Billoo 15:07, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000: I have same concerns which BLZ raised therefore I am going to hard revert your edits but I believe this would in the best interest of the article. I don't think the article is over referenced and reference sequence should be followed. It is very important to provide multiple references (when and if available) to backup the information which is controversial and could to be challenged at some time later. I hope my reverts won't deter you from improving the article. As for "reflist|30em", we usually use it when we have several references. --Saqib (talk) 16:31, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi once again! Above I said, ""Early life and education"; 15 references only are inserted 29 times, with one non-ascending order like [11][4][2]." which I have solved after you said, "Go ahead and fix it". Sadly after revert, this problem hasn't been fixed yet. One more thing I said, "URL=NYTIMES AND ARCHIVEURL=DAWN?? […and more…]", and this is still unfixed. Also some news outlets under the "References" sections fail MOS:ITALIC. I am afraid you warned another editor for making Fawad Khan a GA, but does this article too qualifies for being a GA? Well, I am really junior on this, please check. Thanks! M. Billoo 12:50, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000: In my opinion, this BLP doesn't falls under WP:TOOMANYREFS but anyways I will work on it and try to minimize usage of references. And thanks for getting my attention towards the wrong references being archived. I archived the references using a tool so I assume it has made errors. As for italicization the name of publications, I will do that as well. I believe they are not many. In Spite of all these issues, the article meets the six good article criteria which Fawad Khan's page doesn't. --Saqib (talk) 13:23, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000: I thought of letting you know that I have made changes to the article as suggested by you. see and let me know your thoughts. --Saqib (talk) 14:33, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi! Please check my last edit. I don't know why section name comes in edit summary to cut off the limited characters of it.

• I have checked, some of The News are still not italic there.
• Please tag the page with either Template:Use dmy dates, to make the date formats same, so that the |df= parameters can be removed from the references.
• I think that saying |language=en is useless, it doesn't appear ob screen.
• Using |author={{Nq|}}|title={{Nq|}}|language=ur parameters instead of |title=|first=|last= in Urdu references is good, because in Urdu we don't break names into "last, first".
• Dawn.com |url= can be shortened only to their page numbers, they are as valid as repeating |title= in |url=; and same in their |archiveurl=.
• One more thing, what is the use of |ref= parameter if already "ref name=" is given, I think either of this is repeated and one can be removed.
• Also, I think using |website= parameter (or like in ref#1 is written |work=www.thenews.com.pk) is good if all the references are like that. But as in this case, all should be same into either "|publisher=not italic" or "|work=newspaper italic".
• In last, I have same complain. Please reduce the number of repeats in "Early life and education";
  • 15 references are given 29 times which appear (at least to me) as too many in three small paragraphs.
  • "Electrical Engineer"(ing) is still written 4 times, which appears repeated. It can be written, for example, as,

    He studied to be an electrical engineer. He received his bachelors degree (B.eng) from ABC, after which he started his career. He became a professional engineer after receiving his masters degree (M.eng) from XYZ in Electrical Engineering.

Please check, Thanks! M. Billoo 13:44, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000: I have made some quick changes. More later. --Saqib (talk) 14:35, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi! I want to share some more points.

• "Abbasi belongs to a family[18]…" Is this necessary to cite this part of sentence?
• While editing for my earlier message, I changed a DAWN link http --> https, which I noticed later. This happened again today on HuffPost (The Huffington Post) link, though it also changed into mobile version.
• Template:PKRconvert that is used in Wikipedia is too outdated, it cannot be used to identify the current PKR-US$ amount that varies. It may have changed a lot now since the template was last updated, and since the news was published. I think we should simplify them. Or 'if' we see references, is there conversion used of PKR-US$? Or if not, then either of the amount is unsourced.
• Some refs, that I saw, have |date= parameter missing, more commonly in The Nation refs.
• How to use bots/tools in wiki? Like, for correcting the date formats in the whole page. Also for correcting some unicode/invisible heavy-byte symbols. And like I saw you using #IABot for rescuing refs.

The overall code of page is too large that I don't want to open it in one attempt to avoid mistakes. That's why I prefer editing section-by-section. However, if the whole code is copied to Word.doc software, all the unnecessary cite news parameters like "|df=", "|language=en", and similar other things can be removed out by Ctrl+F / Ctrl+H. Thanks! M. Billoo 23:48, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hi! I was just looking at the page.

• While you were merging, the heading Shahid Khaqan Abbasi#Family and personal life you gave two times; can the main heading be changed only to "#Personal life"? Like, for your talk page, #Your GA nomination of Shahid Khaqan Abbasi is twice.
• Is ref#113: Shahid Khaqan Abbasi sworn in as 18th prime minister necessary? This may misguide readers for 18th or 28th. There are about 9 references given in the page with same date, 1 August 2017, and they may verify the same. Isn't this citekill, just asking?
• Date? Still some references are missing the |date= parameter, like ref#110, ref#152, ref#113; see also ref#104 for date format.
• In ref#107, can Hamid Mir be linked? Or why is he not written like "|first=Hamid|last=Mir" like many other ref authors (or I prefer "|author=") are mentioned. There might be some other notables too having a wikibio.
• You removed PKRconvert after my message. Just asking, why didn't you replace them with Template:PKR instead of writing ₨ manually?
• Now, same complain, you recently added ref#5: PM Abbasi celebrates his 59th birthday with simplicity, making the number of refs in the same section as 16 with repeats as 29. Like, if you see the "#Cabinet formation" which is larger in length as compared to that, it only has 28 times refs given. Why a short section is too much cited, as it appears too much numbered? I mean that level of repetition is nowhere throughout the page, except for that one only.
• If you see the code of this message of mine, you may notice something that I also noted recently. Many |url= can be shortened, this all will take a lot of time, well maybe joking. But some links having news numbers or date are OK to trim. Like
  • ref#15: Profile of Shahid Khaqan Abbasi: Pakistan's interim prime minister
  • ref#31: Abbasi at the helm (title?)
  • ref#50: 26 member Cabinet to take oath today (difficult?)
  • ref#55: شاہد خاقان عباسی ن لیگ کے سینئر ر ہنما، 6 مرتبہ رکن قومی اسمبلی منتخب ہوئے
  • ref#110: Shahid Khaqan Abbassi elected as interim PM
  • ref#152: Power outages again
  • ref#155: Merger of power, petroleum ministries likely to lead to merger of OGRA, NEPRA

I haven't checked the page completely, but please you check and update, Thanks! M. Billoo 17:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000: The page is still under development as evident from the history of the page, though I have made some changes as you suggested. There is nothing like Citation overkill in this bio. This is a BLP of a high profile politician and therefore all repetitive references are there for the sake of verifiability. Once I am done with the expansion, I will try to address rest of your concerns. Thank you. --Saqib (talk) 09:19, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Abbasi

That was an anon. Therequiembellishere (talk) 17:11, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

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Ch Pervez Elahi

Why did you revert the changes I made recently on this page. Is there any technical issue or information provided is not true? Rasikh is the younger son of Pervez Elahi and Wajahaat Hussain is his cousin. I can provide proof. Just google 'Ch Rasikh Elahi' and you'll find a plenty of photos. Thank You!--Asadwarraich (talk) 07:40, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@Asadwarraich: We generally mention only those relatives in the infobox who have got their own Wikipedia articles. There is no article on Rasikh Elahi.--Saqib (talk) 07:57, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: Ch Wajaahat Hussain has a Wikipedia page.--Asadwarraich (talk) 11:36, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

I have updated the page @Asadwarraich: --Saqib (talk) 11:37, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

WP:LEADCITE

Hi there, re: this, per your edit summary, there is no prohibition on citations in the lead, and in some cases references are very helpful not only for supporting controversial content, but also for helping editors quickly spot vandalism. I don't particularly care about the citations being removed in your edit--they're not particularly necessary in this case--but this note is meant to ask that you please not remove citations as a knee-jerk reaction, since they do have value. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:08, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: I am aware that controversial information in the lead that is likely to be challenged should be supported by an inline citations, however in this case, there was no controversial information in the lead therefore I removed the source. I trust no harm done in this case but anyways thanks for the note. . --Saqib (talk) 19:24, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Presidential election in Pakistan before

Hi The presidential election have been restaured in 2004. But before 2004, what is the electoral system for the president ? --Panam2014 (talk) 20:49, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Dar Jaati Hai Sila

It's good that you have removed some references because of Non-RS, but Non-RS can sometimes be used to support television-related articles. I don't know why you are not told this thing but Non-RS are still used to support many TV-related articles. You may look at WP:TV and when you understand, consider reverting your edits on it. Also look at here. Regards, SahabAli^{говорити} 12:01, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

@SahabAliwadia: Where does it says that non-RS could be added? --Saqib (talk) 12:10, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Isn't it written? Then why they are used in most of articles? I am confused 😕. OK, I will see it. Thankyou. SahabAli^{говорити} 12:14, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Re article deletion

Hi Saqib and many thanks. I have replied to your note in the appropriate places. Many good wishes AsadUK200 (talk) 16:40, 28 September 2017 (UTC)AsadUK200

Shahid Khaqan Abbasi

Thank you @Tdslk:. --Saqib (talk) 09:32, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Benazir Bhutto

Hi, congrats on getting Shahid Khaqan and Ishaq Dar to GA. I was wondering with BB's 10th death anniversary approaching, if you could the same for her article? - Mfarazbaig (talk) 16:22, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

@Mfarazbaig: I usually focus on BLP's. --Saqib (talk) 16:30, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Captain Safdar

Dear bro. I have added info about NAB case in Political career but you remove it. Is it wrong 6 news? ALIwaince (talk) 13:11, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Peer Review of Fawad Khan

Hi! I've requested a peer review for Fawad Khan, it was listed as GA but failed FAC. It'd be kind of you to review it.(Wikipedia:Peer review/Fawad Khan/archive1). Thanks Amirk94391 (talk) 11:20, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Original research in Fawad Khan

Well I've been editing this page for last many months and I didn't find any OR material. Now you've added original research tag. Can you tell me what are the originally researched contents in the article? There may be some OR material which I couldn't point out. So please tell me. Thanks Amirk94391 (talk) 14:04, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Aamir Liaquat Crorepati Game Show

Hi! If [2] and [3] are not WP:RS, then what kind of sources should be added? I am always confused while treating a ref as reliable. The show is on-air since last Saturday, but no big news outlet reported it. These refs are not talking by themselves, they have linked the officials too as to verify what they have said. Can official website be added? And are these not big outlets?

Atleast, these sources (like Brandsynario, Mangobaaz etc.) not talk lie, they always--- or mostly prove by officials what they say. I haven't seen any mistake by them, that are sometimes done by Dawn and The Express Tribune. Please help, Thanks! M. Billoo 14:50, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000: when it comes to citing references on the BLP's, I would advise you to be extra careful and not use questionable sources like Mangobaaz and Brandsynario. Both may have editorial oversight but for sure poor reputation for checking the facts and accuracy. No matter how popular these two sources are but keep in mind both of these rely heavily on rumors and personal opinions therefore I would never use them in the BLPs. I believe both of these are sensationalist and gossip-driven news sites, just like Daily Mail which we avoid using as well. I suggest you to see Wikipedia:Potentially unreliable sources. --Saqib (talk) 16:23, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! And you gave a good example of Daily Mail. If talking about BLP, does official interview with these references work? For example, Aamir Liaquat's interview to Brandsynario, Ali Zafar's to Brandsynario and NewsLine Magazine. M. Billoo 16:46, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000: See Wikipedia:Interviews. I think credibility of interviewer and source matters. I have no problem using interviews published in the Newsline but I would never use interviews done by Brandsynario. Likewise never use interviews to cite controversial claims and information that could be challenged. --Saqib (talk) 14:18, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

48 Hours Challenge

Dear Saqib, please delete 48 Hours Challenge. I have created this but I think, yes it could be hoax.--Ameen Akbar (talk) 18:47, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles Restoration

Hi, I hope you will be fine. I want to restore the following articles. Will you please help me.

• Nasir Khanjan
• Shafeeq Gigyani
• Mufti Syed Adnan Kakakhail or Syed Adnan Kakakhail

Thanks! Wisalahmad523 (talk) 14:53, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Shafeeq Gigyani (activist)

Shafeeq Gigyani (activist) please review this one too. thanks! Wisalahmad523 (talk) 15:06, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Help: Draft:2017 Karachi stabbings

Hi! Do you know about recent knife attacks in Karachi? It is so much in news, I thought it should have been included on wikipedia. I started a draft on the topic. Though, every info I added there is verified by the references, but I am confused on how to arrange them; or say which reference can be cited to which paragraph. I think instead of removing anything from there, it could be improved into new wordings. This is my first try on contributing for recent crime-related-news articles, so that's why I am weak on it. Therefore, I need some help there to avoid WP:C-P and WP:OR, so that it could be moved to mainspace. Hope for your kind response and help on the draft/article, Thanks! M. Billoo 22:53, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000: I won't be able to help much as I am pretty busy off-wiki, however here are my two cents; at a quick glance, the article reads like a news story to me. It contains Too much detail. You should merge "attack" and "police report" sections" and remove unnecessary quotations like those of Dr. Zaeem, DSP Shaukat Ali, SHO Zulfiqar Haider etc. "Reactions" section is too long in my opinion and needs to be trimmed down. I don't see a good reason to note down quotations and reaction of each and every politician. --Saqib (talk) 10:06, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Abdul Razak Dawood

Saqib, first you deserve credit for creating this article on 21 January 2017. All I did yesterday was to try to expand it a little bit with a reference to a recognized solid business news website Bloomberg.com. I am trying to be courteous to you, rather than revert you as you did to me, and first ask you a question on your Talk page here. I am just curious as to why you removed some of my added lines when they are clearly backed up by Bloomberg.com website. For example, Bloomberg.com website says that he is a "Director of Pakistan Business Council from 2013 – present" and also the Chairman of Descon Limited. In case you were in a hurry and did not click on the Bloomberg.com website link 'Read Full Background' given below the 'Partial Profile Background' shown on their website, then you apparently missed seeing those extra lines that I am talking about? By the way, I do remember you fixing one of my Dawn (newspaper) links for me couple of months ago and I did appreciate your help (it was my fault and all of us make mistakes occasionally). I am just asking you to take another look at Bloomberg.com website's Profile of Abdul Razak Dawood. Thanks Ngrewal1 (talk) 17:58, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

@Ngrewal1: I really appreciate you taking the time to write me. It was mistake on my part and I instate the material that I removed. --Saqib (talk) 15:42, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: Thanks Saqib, that's nice of you. We are both working for the same goal - to try to improve Pakistan-related articles on Wikipedia. Ngrewal1 (talk) 16:33, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Copyedit of Fawad Khan

Hi Saqib, while peer reviewing Fawad Khan you found some originally researched contents in the article and placed OR tag. The article has been copyedited by Guild of Copy Editors and the OR tag has been removed by Copyediter. I'd like you to read the article and let me know about your feedback. Thanks Amirk94391 (talk) 06:01, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

@Amirk94391: It is good to hear that the bio has been copyedited however I am not satisfied the page meets GA criteria. --Saqib (talk) 06:56, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Moonis Elahi

Dear Saqib, you are editing the page very often but you are providing absolutely wrong information.

For example, you edit that "In 2011, Elahi was accused of corruption of Rs 320 million during his father's tenure as the Chief Minister of Punjab.[2]".

Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi was Chief Minister of Punjab from 2002 to 2007. Moonis Elahi was politically victimized and he voluntarily faced the trial and acquited by the honorable court.

Waiting for your reply of the said issue. The information which you have posted on the page is wrong. Please correct it. Kindly address this issue and don't spread the wrong information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhamamd Aziz Saeed (talk • contribs) 13:10, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

@Muhamamd Aziz Saeed: the article is fair, and well-sourced as per Wikipedia policies and guidelines. --Saqib (talk) 10:47, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: The information you have provided in the article is wrong. You must cross-check the information before posting. I urge you to correct it and don't make it a biased article. Thanks --Muhamamd Aziz Saeed

@Muhamamd Aziz Saeed: No. The article doesn't contain wrong information and is not biased in any way. --Saqib (talk) 17:29, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: Would you say that Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi was Chief Minister of Punjab in 2011? He was Chief Minister between 2002 to 2007 and he has nothing to do with NICL Scam. Moonis Elahi was only political victimized in this case. You must research well. --Muhamamd Aziz Saeed

@Saqib: You are not talking and you have not removed the wrong information from the page. So now I have no other option but to report you to administrator. Please comply with the WIKIPEDIA rules.--Muhamamd Aziz Saeed

@Muhamamd Aziz Saeed: The page doesn't says that Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi was the Chief Minister of Punjab in 2011. Moonis Elahi was involved in NICL scandal as per this Dawn piece therefore the information will stay and won't be removed from the page. I suggest you to not remove the information from the page or you risk yourself being blocked. --Saqib (talk) 07:04, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: Your recent edit of the page has proved that you are making it a biased page. Would you tell me what was wrong in my edit which you have reverted? Don't make it personal.--Muhamamd Aziz Saeed

@Muhamamd Aziz Saeed: You are engaging in copyright violation by copy pasting the information and that's why I am reverting your edits. --Saqib (talk) 12:15, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: You once again deleted the informaton which I have posted. My information was from the same source which you are using. Your editing is proving that you are doing it purposely. You are not allowing me to add any thing on the page. My all information is based on a source and you should stop delelting my information.--Muhamamd Aziz Saeed

@Saqib: You are deleting the information which is authentic and from the reliable sources. You are doing it purposely and it is unethical and wrong. You are showing the one side of the picture and not allowing me to show the other and correct side of the picture.--Muhamamd Aziz Saeed

@Muhamamd Aziz Saeed: The article already says He was later acquitted in 2011 due to lack of evidence. so I don't guess why would you add a judge's remarks. I have added statement by Elahi's father. I hope you're satisfied now. I suggest you to avoid copyvio in your future edits. --Saqib (talk) 14:53, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: NICL scam has no link with Moonis Elahi's father's tenure as a Chief Misniter. NICL happened in 2011 and his father tenure of Chief Misniter of Punjab was from (2002 to 2007).You must research it well and you must remove these words from there.--Muhamamd Aziz Saeed

@Muhamamd Aziz Saeed: No. I am not going to remove critical information as you suggest. The information is valid and will stay on the page. --Saqib (talk) 13:46, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: You have again reverted my changes. My material is very much valid and related to the topic. Please stop reverting again and again. Thanks Muhamamd Aziz Saeed

@Muhamamd Aziz Saeed: why don't you stop citing unreliable sources? --Saqib (talk) 07:38, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: You must mention which citing is from unreliable sources. I have used the text from the cition which you have used but you still deleted it. For a proof you can check the history of my updates. I am not deleting your text I am just trying to elobrate more the topic for the better understanding of the reader. Let's make it fair. Thanks Muhamamd Aziz Saeed

@Saqib: You did it again. You have removed the whole section which I have created. All material in this section was verfiried and was posted with citation. Any comments? Muhamamd Aziz Saeed

The answer is on your talk page: User_talk:Muhamamd_Aziz_Saeed#December_2017. --Saqib (talk) 15:23, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Pakistan needs to meet Criteria

Hey Saqib! I'm from Pakistan and currently working of Pakistan sports stubs as I am also a sportsman. Would like work with you as its hard for me to do it frequently with my 9 hours job schedule. I make edit daily but sometimes I don't have much time to find better sources. Waiting for your reply. TylerBlack97 (talk) 15:16, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

@TylerBlack97: Thanks for your message, however unfortunately sports related articles do not interest me. --Saqib (talk) 17:28, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Moona Sehgal (talk) 22:52, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Hamid Mir

Hamid Mir article is full of biased, unverified material etc. I am trying to remove some of the unverified content. You can get details on this article from its talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hamid_Mir. Do you have reference of statements which I have removed. --Spasage (talk) 05:29, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Spasage: This BLP obviously need attention but you cannot remove sourced material. For instance, this. --Saqib (talk) 05:46, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: Please do not keep on reverting back. This claim of being most popular can not be even verified in washingtonpost. So, I am not sure why we need to put this statement considering this article is full of biased material, which concerns me more. --Spasage (talk) 06:02, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Spasage: I think you should carefully read this article by Washington Post before taking any further step. The article reads "In 2002, he joined Geo, the up-and-coming television station. His popularity soared as Geo grew into one of the most-watched networks in the country. Presidents, ambassadors and ministers sought to be on Mir’s “Capital Talk,” a four-nights-a-week news talk show that mixed traditional reporting with opinion." Though I agree that this need to paraphrased because of copyvio --Saqib (talk) 06:06, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

November 2017

Your recent editing history at Hamid Mir shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. NeilN ^{talk to me} 06:05, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@NeilN: Noted, however I am just trying to revert the deletion of properly sourced material. --Saqib (talk) 06:09, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@NeilN: Hamid Mir is full of biased and unreliable material. I was trying to clean this article and user Saqib is not allowing me to do so. If you just read Hamid Mir talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hamid_Mir, you can see how bad this article is. I am just trying to improve quality of this article. I also explained this on his talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Saqib#Hamid_Mir. We should discuss content of Hamid Mir article and then edit it and remove wrong information. --Spasage (talk) 06:14, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Spasage: Please discuss your edits on the article's talk page and wait for other editors to chime in and build consensus. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 06:17, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Spasage: I don't think the BLP is biased. It contains full fledged "Criticism" section, though I agree the page needs attention and you're welcome to improve it however I suggest you to not remove information outright which is duly sourced via inline citations. --Saqib (talk) 06:20, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: What I removed was un-sourced and can not be verified. --Spasage (talk) 06:23, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@NeilN: Should I also build consensus on statements which does not have any reference. People who do not know Hamid Mir, will believe what is written it in, this is my concern. --Spasage (talk) 06:23, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Spasage: The bit that was added back seems to be sourced. Anything that is unsourced can be removed and should not be added back without a proper source. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 06:28, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @NeilN: This paragraph is what User:Spasage claims is not sourced and trying to remove it, repeately which causing edit war. --Saqib (talk) 06:32, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@NeilN: I will remove what is un-sourced.--Spasage (talk) 17:21, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: Lets make Hamid Mir a good ready and improve quality. Hope you will help, instead of impeding efforts.--Spasage (talk) 17:21, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Saqib (talk) 12:07, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Sarmad Sehbai and Arieb Azhar

You have added unreliable sources tag on Sarmad Sehbai and Arieb Azhar. Did you find anything particular on these two articles. --Spasage (talk) 17:00, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

@Spasage: Both BLP's contains unreliable sources such as "fankaronline.com, youlinmagazine.com, rekhta.org, dareechah.com et cetra. Also IMDb should not be generally cited as a source. --Saqib (talk) 17:05, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

You consider rekhta.org as unreliable. Along with fankaronline.com, youlinmagazine.com, and dareechah.com . What is your criteria of reliability. --Spasage (talk) 17:09, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

@Spasage: why don't you take a moment to thoroughly read WP:PUS? --Saqib (talk) 17:11, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

WP:PUS does not say that sites like rekhta.org are not reliable. rekhta.org is the most respected site around. Others are also good source to cite. --Spasage (talk) 17:18, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

@Spasage: Sources which have a poor reputation for fact checking, lack meaningful editorial oversight, or have an apparent conflict of interest should be better avoided in BLPs. --Saqib (talk) 17:25, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Deletion

@Saqib:, why you nominated my pages for deletion as it has some resources? New786678 (talk) 11:19, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

@New786678: I don't see your articles meeting WP notability guidelines. --Saqib (talk) 12:45, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

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Chaudhry Moonis Elahi

Hi Saqib, you have reverted my first edit of Moonis Elahi and it is not a good beginning. You removed my content because you think it is "already mentioned". Would you please show me that where it is written that Moonis Elahi stood for two constituencies and won the both? Don't you think that winning from two constituencies is an achievement? Plz edit it or allow me. Thanks User:ShakirShah (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:21, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

On the page of Moonis Elahi please refer to the lines "He was declared a proclaimed offender for failure to appear before the investigation committee and as a result he was arrested and jailed". The impression to the reader from these lines may be misleading as they omit some vital on ground facts. The two facts to be borne in mind & worthy of mention here are that on Feb 23, 2011 the Additional District & Sessions Judge had set aside the earlier magisterial orders declaring Moonis Elahi as a proclaimed offender and that the FIA did not arrest Moonis Elahi, as he had assured to produce himself for an arrest. Please refer to the following news links. I am ready to provide more news links or any other sources you needed. Please consider my request. Thanks User:ShakirShah (talk)

References

@Saqib: I am waiting of your reply on my suggested edit. Plz response. Thanks User:ShakirShah (talk)

@ShakirShah: I wouldn't want to go into too much detail per WP:BLOATED. --Saqib (talk) 14:17, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: It is not too much details. It is necessary to mention the facts. It looks WP:BIASED and incomplete. I request you to add the suggested material to complete the story. Thanks User:ShakirShah (talk)

@ShakirShah: Per this and this Elahi was arrested in March 2011 following the dismissal of his bail. --Saqib (talk) 15:06, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: It says following "Mooni Elahi presented himself for arrest to the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) after rejection of his bail petition by the Lahore High Court (LHC) in NICL corruption case on Thursday, Geo News reported.Earlier today, Moonis Elahi, after hearing of the case at LHC, sought permission and went home. Later, he arrived at FIA’s office along with some workers of his party and presented himself for arrest."[4] and "Police did not arrest him after rejection of the bail petition and Moonis left the court along with workers of his party. About two hours later, he reached FIA's Punjab headquarters on Temple Road and surrendered himself." [5]. He surrender himself and was not arrested. At the time of his surrender talking to media, Moonis Elahi said: “It is not like him to run away and that he would face everyone.” Would you check these comments and links? Thanks User:ShakirShah (talk)

@ShakirShah: I will look into this. On a side note, the disruptive behaviour of your fellow Aziz Saeed has led the page of Elahi to be locked down. --Saqib (talk) 15:56, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

@Saqib: Cпасибо. I have no concern with the edits of the said user done. I am responsible for my edits only and I think that facts should be right. Why you protected the page? User:ShakirShah (talk)

@Saqib: This article also says that Moonis Elahi declared "Proclaimed Offender". It is also not a correct information. The true fact is that at that time he was not in Pakistan. However, on February 23, 2011 this order was set aside by the Sessions Court, Lahore. . Plz edit this information too. Thanks User:ShakirShah (talk)

References

@ShakirShah: Since you're blocked for socking, I am not going to answer. --Saqib (talk) 04:56, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Shahid Khaqan Abbasi

Hi Saqib. I finished my copy edit of the Abbasi page. It looked pretty good overall, but I did add a few citation needed tags, just to be extra careful since this is a BLP of a major politician. I hope that helped! Tdslk (talk) 01:04, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Rana Afzal Khan

Hi According to the sources, Miftah and Rana are the both successors of Dar. --Panam2014 (talk) 11:44, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

@Panam2014: The power resides with federal minister not a state minister and in this case, Miftah is federal minister. For verification purpose, please consult this news item which states Miftah to head finance ministry and this editorial which states with Miftah appointment as federal minister, "there is some clarity on who is the boss." --Saqib (talk) 11:50, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

WIR article creations

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Category:Muttahida Qaumi Movement MPs has been nominated for discussion

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Minister of Energy

Hi Why the office have been removed for Shahid Khaqan Abbasi ? --Panam2014 (talk) 14:56, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Panam2014: From where? --Saqib (talk) 15:13, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

From the infobox of the article. --Panam2014 (talk) 15:15, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

See Talk:Shahid_Khaqan_Abbasi#Minister_for_Energy. I pinged you about it two months ago but you didn't answered. --Saqib (talk) 15:21, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

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January 2018

Hello, I'm Elektricity. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on Imran Khan, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source, so I removed it. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! Elektricity (talk) 07:59, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Elektricity: Have you bothered to check the sources before sending me this generic message? --Saqib (talk) 08:05, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Saqib every single one of them says its an unverified claim that is denied by the people close to Imran Khan. We do not include speculations WP:CRYSTALBALL. If it is indeed true, confirmation will be given, without confirming, we should treat this as gossip column junk. btw you should check out this source https://www.thenewstribe.com/2016/07/12/imran-khans-third-wife/ as well. Sounds familiar. I could not find any better(less harsh) message in the Twinkle drop down, and I was too lazy to just write my own and include the link etc. Elektricity (talk) 08:10, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Elektricity: I do not consider The News Tribe as a RS but the one I cited The News is a reliable one. WP:CRYSTALBALL also states "Predictions, speculation, forecasts and theories stated by reliable, expert sources or recognized entities in a field may be included." The story in The News was carried out by a well known investigative journalist Umar Cheema and I deem it authentic. --Saqib (talk) 08:17, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Saqib I think you may have missed the date on the source I quoted. It is july 2016, so this kind of news has been on the air for quite some time and we should wait until it is confirmed before putting it in the wiki article. I mean the article is not going to go anywhere, why put in something that may or may not be true, let's wait for like 48-72 hours and if it is confirmed we can put it in. Elektricity (talk) 08:22, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Elektricity: You said " the claim is denied by the people close to Imran Khan." For your information, Khan himself denied the reports of his second marriage with Reham Khan in December 2016 2014 before confirming it later in January 2017 2015 so I am not surprised if Khan or his aides would deny fresh reports about the former's third marrige. Well I still believe the information should be mentioned under the "Family and early life" section, if not in the infobox. --Saqib (talk) 08:27, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Saqib You are quite right just not about the dates of course. The information about the marriage was added in december 2014 not 2016, but it was thrown out quickly and it was not until he confirmed the rumor that the inromation was added back in. (Is Daily mail considered a reliable source btw? Thier standards of journalism are pretty abysmal. Why should we not wait for the inclusion. I eman are there any reasons as to why we cannot wait 2-3 days? Elektricity (talk) 08:35, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Elektricity: Well Daily Mail was not considered unreliable until February 2017. By the way, I have rewrote the para and re-added the information. After all this particular marriage speculation has been making the noise since last year so I deem it necessary to note down, regardless of truth keeping in mind WP:TRUTH. --Saqib (talk) 09:08, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Saqib Well good riddance, they publish really substandard stuff. I have added the information from 2016. I think marriage rumors are a regualr gossip with this guy. Elektricity (talk) 14:01, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Elektricity: I think you have added some unnecessary and unwarranted detailed information, but otherwise it looks OK. --Saqib (talk) 14:12, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Saqib I removed the quote, looks fine to me other wise. Elektricity (talk) 15:00, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

@Elektricity: Don't template the regulars – something to bear in mind. – Joe (talk) 10:42, 6 January 2018 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

@Joe, I am new, and not that good at typing, so twinkle is a godsend for me. I already cleared the air in the first reply on this page. I honestly think twinkle should come with a "toned down" version for experienced users' TP.Elektricity (talk) 14:01, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Deletion for article "Rana Abrar"

Hi, Saqib I have improve the article “Rana Abrar” and added more reliable information. It would be appreciated if could you can explain the problem as to why it is being put on deletion. He’s Pakistani director who is directing 2 upcoming famous Pakistani movies "Dajjal The Slayer and His Followers" and "Son of Kashmir Burhan". And the Editor in Chief of “World Biz Journals”

Dajjal The Slayer and His Followers

“Son of Kashmir Burhan” "Son of Kashmir Burhan"

World Biz Journals --Sadie Jules (talk) 23:26, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

@Sadie Jules: Since you're blocked for socking, I am not going to answer you anymore. --Saqib (talk) 06:37, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Great work Saqib! Mohsinnaseem (talk) 10:19, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

WP:KITTENS

Saqib-- Thank you for your e-mail of January 9. You had asked "I just wanted to check with you if this (WP:KITTENS) is a policy and creating mass articles are really forbidden?" The answer is that it is not a policy, but a summary of what's been the custom in creating articles en masse, based on common outcomes (WP:OUTCOMES) in the Articles for Deletion process. It's not a strict policy. There's a disclaimer at the top that says "This page is an essay" and "not one of the Wikipedia policies or guidelines".

Creating mass articles isn't forbidden, but in many cases it's discouraged. It's not discouraged in subjects where notability is automatically presumed (such as Wikipedia:POLOUTCOMES, where it's stated that a state or provincial legislator is presumed notable without having to demonstrate being well-known).

As a summary says, "Stub articles can be useful, but avoid mass creating stub articles." What brought it about years ago is that people would create lots of articles in a matter of a few hours, with no citations or links, and often with only one sentence, about things like every municipal police department in Nebraska (like Alma Police Department, "The Alma Police Department is the police department in Alma, Nebraska") or every large street in the city where they lived ("62nd Avenue is a street in St. Louis, Missouri located between 61st Avenue and 63rd Avenue"). The most infamous was the "Nation X - Nation Y relations" articles where someone was creating pages that they had no intention of working on, like Andorra—Nauru relations. Creating these was easy, but evaluating their merit case-by-case was a long process.

So, WP:KITTENS is not a rule, but it is a word of advice concerning the likely outcome in the Articles for Deletion debate. Summed up, if you choose to create a series of articles, you have to be prepared for the chance that they will be nominated for deletion and that you'll have to defend them (and I've had to defend my creations on numerous occasions). It's best to make sure that they have substance. If you want an opinion on an idea (and it's just that, an opinion) please click on my talk page. Mandsford 14:16, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

@Mandsford: Thank you for your detailed response. Hope WP:KITTENS doesn't apply to my latest stub creations today. --Saqib (talk) 21:14, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Rename

Hey Saqib! I hope you're doing good. I wanted help from you in renaming my username. I hope you can help. Thanks and Regards from Pakistan. TylerBlack97 (talk) 09:30, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

@TylerBlack97: You should make a request at Meta:Steward requests/Username changes. --Saqib (talk) 09:45, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

@Saqib: Thank you very much!

About Aseefa Bhutto Zardari

Hello, Saqib, plz correct the deletion nomination. It is not second nomination but the first one.Ominictionary (talk) 07:08, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

@Ominictionary: But I think it is second because of this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aseefa Bhutto Zardari. By the way, I am curious why would you create BLP on Aseefa but nominate the BLP on Bakhtawar for deletion. --Saqib (talk) 07:16, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Saqib, I am going to mention it on the discussion.Ominictionary (talk) 07:24, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Though you have undo it but still may I know that for what reason you were accusing me for being involved closely about Aseefa Bhutto Zardari. Ominictionary (talk) 13:23, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

@Ominictionary: It was by fault. For a moment I misunderstood you as User:EShami. --Saqib (talk) 13:26, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Relating me with Akhuwat

I found Govt official resources to show you the notability of Akhuwat and you tagged me as a closed person to the organization. This is how to check Govt links of Akhuwat and Google News. I am not guiding you, I just telling you how I did. I have added many Article about Govt departments and universities, It never mean Govt is paying me for doing this. I hope you understand I adding a positive contribution. I just want to tell you Benazir Income Support Programme which is a large program for poverty allevation funded by Govt of Pakistan is operating under Akhuwat.--EShami (talk) 11:50, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

@EShami: An organization is considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, and independent secondary sources, not in government sources so please don't use government sources. Not only they violates WP:PRIMARY SOURCE, they also trigger WP:COI and compromise the WP:Neutrality of the article. Government sources would obviously glorify anything about government-run projects and due to very same reason BISP page on Akhuwat unsurprisingly states "Akhuwat, world’s largest interest free microfinance program." --Saqib (talk) 12:00, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Licence for uploading Software Logo

Please help me which licence tag should I use when uploading a software logo by citing its website? I am reffering this image and need help to fix the issue. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SnatchBot_Logo.png --EShami (talk) 12:14, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Since you're blocked for socking, I am not going to answer you. --Saqib (talk) 11:34, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Suggestion

Hello there. Hope you will be doing fine. I need suggestion to organize MPAs biographies. Which one would be better, Category:Punjab MPAs (2013–18) or Category:MPAs Punjab (2013–18) or any other. Your suggestion would be helpful. Thanks. Störm (talk) 14:22, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Störm:, I think the former would be fine. Are you going to categorize the hundreds of BLP's that I have created today? --Saqib (talk) 14:25, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Saqib Maybe, I'll try to categorize. What are your thoughts? Störm (talk) 14:28, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Störm: I would say go ahead. --Saqib (talk) 14:29, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Störm: Are you sure all the BLPs that you moved from Category:Members of the Provincial Assembly of the Punjab to Category:Punjab MPAs 2013–18 were of MP's elected in 2013? --Saqib (talk) 18:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Saqib I tried to correctly categorize all BLPs accordingly so, I'm sure they are 99% correct. Störm (talk) 18:04, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Saqib Sorry for the disturbance. Are you done with Category:Balochistan MPAs 2013–18 because currently there are 42 articles in this category whereas total MPs are 65? Störm (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Störm: We've BLPs on all 65 but the rest are not created by me so you have to find them. This will help. --Saqib (talk) 18:18, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

400+ new articles

	400+ new articles
	Thanks for creating 400+ new articles with an amazing temperament. Super effort. Störm (talk) 18:48, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Störm: Thanks for your appreciation. This is my way of celebrating WP:Wikipedia Day. --Saqib (talk) 18:52, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Super! Störm (talk) 18:54, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Awarded to you for creating ~400 stubs on Pakistani politicians.  samee  talk 11:11, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks @Samee:. Appreciate it. --Saqib (talk) 11:14, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Saqib. i will Add a Pic of Karam Dad Wahla Why you are remove it. i will add a picture of waqar zaka you are remove. Please Help me how to add Pic. I am new Here. Thanks By Zain Abid — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zainabid736 (talk • contribs) 15:47, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zainabid736: You can only add free images, meaning the images taken by you or someone who has allowed its free usage under a free license such as Creative Commons license. All other images you find online are copyrighted. Continuing to upload copyrighted material will result in block.  samee  ^talk 16:01, 17 January 2018 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Adeel Safi

Please create new cases with the oldest-created account as the master. I don't believe this is the first time you've done this, and it makes unnecessary work for the clerks. At the same time, if you do create it incorrectly, don't try to fix it yourself. It has to be fixed by a clerk. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:59, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Noted @Bbb23:. --Saqib (talk) 17:04, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Samina Khan for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Samina Khan is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samina Khan until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  M A A Z   T A L K  09:27, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Inappropriate tagging

• Article Muhammad Arif Butt has sufficient RS mentioned. Please avoid inappropriate tags. Thank you.  M A A Z   T A L K  17:07, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

@Ma'az: Not everything in that page is cited and the tagging is warranted. The article claims "Butt did his B.Sc. (1970) and M.Sc. (1971) in chemical engineering from University of the Punjab and later received his Ph.D (1978) in chemical engineering from Nagoya University in Nagoya, Japan". I cannot see the mention of year 1970, 1971 and 1978 in the cited PDF source. May I know why are you adding original research to a BLP? --Saqib (talk) 17:12, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Not each and everything can be referenced on Wikipedia. Only important things are referenced. We cannot demand references for all trivial things. If you think that's the problem, you can remove the dates.  M A A Z   T A L K  17:16, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Why not? For your kind information, no original research allowed on a BLP. Everything must be cited to a RS. --Saqib (talk) 17:18, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Important things are referenced, other things are left on editing skills. Not everything is referenced.  M A A Z   T A L K  17:23, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Do you consider DoB important? Did you cited it? No. --Saqib (talk) 17:31, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

So, if I remove DoB, than I can remove the tags. right?  M A A Z   T A L K  17:59, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

No. The page still carry your original research. --Saqib (talk) 18:03, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

I've seen that you have removed all the OR work but you have still not removed the tags. Can you please remove them and end this little controversy between us. Thank you :) .  M A A Z   T A L K  18:36, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

This is where you have done redundant tagging. Even after removing OR work yourself you still haven't removed the tags. Even though you yourself stated here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Ma'az_reported_by_User:Saqib_(Result:_) " I've removed some OR but the page still contains some. I'll resume working on it tomorrow and remove the tags when I am satisfied that there is no more original research". What do you mean by tomorrow?  M A A Z   T A L K  17:59, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

@Ma'az: I've removed the tags for now but seriously this BLP needs additional references independent of the subject for verification. --Saqib (talk) 18:12, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you for that :) . I'll try to make this article better, without any OR work.  M A A Z   T A L K  18:31, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Primary Sources

Please don't remove primary sources. Primary sources can be used to support content in an article.  M A A Z   T A L K  17:25, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Which primary sources are you talking about? --Saqib (talk) 17:27, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Removing notability tag from page of 'Rizwan'

SohailTanveer91 (talk) 17:51, 29 January 2018 (UTC) Respected Sir Saqib, I saw your post on my talk page. The reason I removed this was I saw the notability standard of public office holders. The subject page's citations have in-depth as well as substantial mention in leading newspapers and government websites. The wikicritera states that the subject should national or sub-national office. Sir, the subject is the chairman of the country's national flag carrier, one of the most coveted slot and popular offices in the country. I hope the points I've raised upon examining the notability criteria are substantial and you will agree with me and remove the tag. You are a much more experienced wikieditor so it's your call at the end

Farhat Mohammad Khan

• Really? Redundant tags? Do you understand the difference between Template:Underlinked and Template:Orphan?

I added ‘’underlinked’’ tag because at that moment the article only linked to one article, National Assembly of Pakistan. You undid my edit on 26 Jan with note that it’s already linked with 3 (but it was only linked to one article at that time). After reverting my edit today, you linked the article with 4 more links and after that you left a concocted message on my talk while intimidating me. See diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Farhat_Mohammad_Khan&diff=823118442&oldid=823117531. Before you added the material there was just one wikilink, see diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Farhat_Mohammad_Khan&diff=823117531&oldid=823020868. Why don’t you say in simple words you want me to be blocked? This is deceptive and wrong. Read https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use/en#Refraining_from_Certain_Activities.  M A A Z   T A L K  17:50, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

@Ma'az: I may have misread the tag but still the tag was not warranted. The underlinked template says "Please help improve this article by adding links that are relevant to the context within the existing text." I am curious why would you tag a one-liner article with this template when basically there is nothing to link to. --Saqib (talk) 18:01, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

I am new to AWB and this was what suggested by it. I'll take care with one-line articles next time.  M A A Z   T A L K  18:33, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Saqib. You have new messages at Talk:Sanjeeda Sheikh#Controversy section.
Message added 03:22, 31 January 2018 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Another user removed the {{unreliable sources}} template you applied to the article in this edit. It would be helpful if you'd please note on the talk page the issues you found problematic. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:22, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Hazar Khan Bijarani

On 3 February 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Hazar Khan Bijarani, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T♦C 16:56, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Hareb Farooq

Dear Saqib, I have recently received a message titled , "This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy". To save it i have inserted more cited material and sources, however please guide me what else can I do to save the page from deletion. Kindly remove that tag from the page. (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hj.hj.hj.hjkk (talk • contribs)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For being our 'first line of defense' against vandalism against Pakistan-related articles. I am proud of you for handling the recent attempt at Ahmed Rushdie article deletion. Cheers !!! Ngrewal1 (talk) 17:46, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for appreciation. @Ngrewal1:. --Saqib (talk) 18:28, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

My apologies, I haven't had much understanding of how this works. When I saw the Faisal Javed Khan post which had him as a politician UNTIL now when as elected Senator he does deserve one.

What is a sock puppet?

Since I can't edit that discussion which is now closed how do I remove that sockpuppet claim?

My email address is the same: nukout@gmail.com and has been since years. Nukout (talk) 16:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Women in Red

Hi there Saqib and welcome to Women in Red! It's good to have a new member who is interested in covering Pakistani women. I see that you have recently added quite a few women politicians and that you have been adding Template:WIR to their talk pages. You might like to use Template:WIR-00-2018 instead; it's for #1day1woman, allowing coverage of women which are not specifically covered by priorities for the month. You can then also list your new articles on the #1day1woman page, which will make it easier for us to publicize your work. If you run into any problems or need assistance, please let me know. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 16:05, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

@Ipigott: Thank you for the message. Your suggestion well-noted. --Saqib (talk) 16:12, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Asma Jahangir

On 11 February 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Asma Jahangir, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Vanamonde (talk) 15:37, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail

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Hi, I was wondering which citation did you find not reliable on Fariha Razzaq Haroon page update.

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Content on Mahira Khan

Hi, I removed those contents on Mahira Khan Page and also justified it on edit summary.. You can check it on edit summary. Thank You. Please revert back your action Emanuel223 (talk) 10:13, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

@Emanuel223: The passage is inline cited via a RS therefore it will remain no matter it is true or not. --Saqib (talk) 10:21, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

List of members of the 14th National Assembly of Pakistan

@Saqib and Tdslk: I've noticed some inconsistencies with the number of seats won and the majority. According to the Pakistani general election, 2013 article, PML(N) won 166 seats, which is below the 172 for a majority (ie: 342/2+1). 19 independents joined PML(N) bringing them up to 185 seats, 13 more than the required number. The math works for all of that. But the list article says PML(N) won 188 seats; was this a typo of 166? – Reidgreg (talk) 18:52, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: I am glad you took notice of this. As per this Dawn report, PML-N bagged 126 seats in May 2013 election + 37 reserved seats for women and minorities. 18 independent candidates joined the PML-N later. --Saqib (talk) 06:59, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Women's History Month 2018 at Women in Red

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Speedy deletion nomination of Bushra Manika

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Bushra Manika requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Presidential election

Hi I think we should create articles about presidential elections in Pakistan between 1965 and 2004. --Panam2014 (talk) 23:05, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

@Masterpha: are you interested? --Saqib (talk) 17:20, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Sure! It will take some time but of course it would help. The current state of articles around presidential elections in Pakistan give the impression that there were no elections between 1965 and 2004, which is untrue. Masterpha (talk) 20:49, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Apologies

Sincere apologies about the edit war or if I had upset you by reverting your edit, I was not aware of the edit war rule and I should’ve discussed it on the talk page of the opinion polling page. I hope that we can put our differences aside for our common goal of improving and creating new pages related to pakistan in the future. Masterpha (talk) 16:53, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

No problem @Masterpha: Carry on your good work! --Saqib (talk) 17:14, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Krishna Kolhi

On 8 March 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Krishna Kolhi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Krishna Kolhi is the first Hindu Dalit woman to be elected to the Senate of Pakistan? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Krishna Kolhi), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles of people not notable

You are creating large number of articles about Pakistani member of federal or provincial parliamentarian. In most of them, you only have one or two reference. You have added reference [6] in articles Shahnaz Ansari is not even mentioned. In case of Shaheena Sher Ali, only Shaheena is mentioned. If I see something like this, I do not need your permission to edit that articles. Most of these people hardly notable. In most cases, this is what you have done. You used pas.gov.pk and couple of other websites where their name is mentioned. It is classic case of single source BLP. I am not disrupting, I am just trying to improve article. --Spasage (talk) 13:40, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

• @Spasage: All federal or provincial parliamentarians are presumed notable even if completely unsourced. But sourcing articles correctly is important for WP:V and WP:BLP reasons. Prince of Thieves (talk) 13:53, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Can you please point me to wiki policy which says this. Only creating two lines articles does not make any sense. There should be some material. One can create list of parliamentarians page.--Spasage (talk) 14:16, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Spasage: I suggest you please get yourself acquainted with WP:N. I believe I've properly sourced each and every BLP I've created and not a single BLP is unsourced or cite dubious reference. And for your information, Shehnaz Begum and Shahnaz Ansari is name of same person. See this. --Saqib (talk) 14:22, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Spasage: the policy is WP:NPOL, but it is only one specific part of WP:N. Prince of Thieves (talk) 14:36, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Prince of Thieves: I copied this from WP:NPOL People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards. Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included; conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included.. So, it is likely that politician are notable, not sure. Politician should demonstrate notability. Being politician is good start but is only one criteria. Obviously politician have some level of notability, but they still need good deal of press coverage to be considered notable. Articles about politicians which @Saqib: is creating are in most cases not notable. There is no press coverage in most cases. Secondly, in most cases only one reliable source is used, other sources are articles with only name mentioned. Not sure, how notable this makes a person. --Spasage (talk) 15:29, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Notability is not the same as verifiability, there is roughly no chance of any of these articles being deleted at AfD as long as the fact that the subject held a national or provincial elected office is verifiable. This is because the press coverage is presumed to exist, and proving coverage in a language most editors here don't understand doesn't exist is hard. Prince of Thieves (talk) 15:36, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Do not agree with you on this. Article should have some content. These lesser-known politicians can be put in a single article. There is not much content on the internet about them. So, whats the point of article. --Spasage (talk) 16:04, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Spasage: If you've concerns regarding current notability policy, I suggest you please take this issue somewhere else (preferably NPOL. --Saqib (talk) 16:12, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Spasage: Do you not know about Wikipedia:Stub? Short articles are encouraged as useful starts to valid topics. Prince of Thieves (talk) 16:14, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Spasage: Those stubs can be easily expanded if you put some efforts, instead of making unnecessary fuss here. --Saqib (talk) 16:18, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Saqib: So make them stub. Whey they are not created like this. There is no need to be personal. If you are not doing something incorrectly, I have all the right to point it out. I still do not agree with creation of these articles and would recommend not to keep on creating them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spasage (talk • contribs)

@Spasage: I'm not getting personal, but you're definitely exaggerating stuff on my talk page. I believe my creations are perfectly fine and complies with the guidelines. If you feel my creations are not OK, please take this issue somewhere else, but please avoid populating my NS, unnecessarily. --Saqib (talk) 16:34, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

NICL

@Saqib: The information about NICL scam mentioned in Moonis Elahi page is incorrect. It says that "NICL scandal during his father's tenure as the Chief Minister of Punjab". The citations of this source is not supporting your information and not saying that this scam has happened in his father's tenure as the Chief Minister of Punjab. It was not happened under his father's tenure of Chief Minister it was happened when Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif was the chief minister of the Punjab. Kindly correct that. Thanks. --Shahzad.bhatti.pk

@Shahzad.bhatti.pk: But this news item says "during his father's rule as the all-powerful Punjab chief minister". --Saqib (talk) 18:50, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Saqib: Does this link [7] qualify as a news item? This is not a news item, it is published as a letter to editor from an anonymous person. I think that you research more before establishing your point. I have seen your many edits and all are very much researched and authentic but in this particular case you are not right. Give it a thought. Thanks. --Shahzad.bhatti.pk (talk)

@Shahzad.bhatti.pk: And what do you have to say about this news item? It says Elahi "was accused of appropriating around Rs 320 million from the scam during his father’s tenure as Punjab chief minister." --Saqib (talk) 13:51, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sadiq Sanjrani

Hello! Your submission of Sadiq Sanjrani at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! HaEr48 (talk) 05:51, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hina Altaf

I want to make her page and collected references which i was about to add but then u nominate it for speedy deletion, kindly guide me if i add them or not because she is an actress and i have work on her from many days thats why asking you. Thank You KarthikSKS (talk) 07:24, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

27 March, 2018

Assalam-o-Alaikum Friend!Please help me in improving a WikiProject Pakistan's article Kaghan Valley and Pyala Lake which has a little information on it.Thank You. User:Shoaib74444 (talk) 12:03 27 March, 2018(UTC)

A new Email

{{You've got mail}}...Jogi 007 17:48, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion criteria

I have declined your speedy deletion nomination of Office Régional du Tourisme SAVA. There may be good reasons for deletion, but it did not come anywhere remotely near to satisfying either of the speedy deletion criteria you specified. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:15, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Noted @JamesBWatson: I don't know which language is this so to me it looked gibberish. If this is not some gibberish, then indeed some promotional and non-encyclopedia stuff which is created by someone relates to the subject (User:Ortsava). --Saqib (talk) 14:24, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I think that not being written in English should be a speedy deletion criterion on English Wikipedia, but it isn't. (The equivalent is a speedy deletion criterion on many Wikipedias in other languages.) Because it isn't, I quite often have to spend time using tools such as Google translate to determine what articles in languages I don't know are about in order to determine whether they should be deleted, but just the fact that you or I don't understand a foreign language doesn't mean it is nonsense, so that speedy deletion criterion is not valid. In this case the language is French, which I do understand, so I'll go back and have another look to see whether it satisfies some other speedy deletion criterion. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:44, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

@JamesBWatson: OK, so I didn't knew about this one. Will surely make sure to use Google Translate next time. I believe this one fall under G11. What do you think? --Saqib (talk) 14:53, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

I think it was clearly created for promotional purposes, but it isn't blatantly promotional enough for G11. However, another editor has moved it to user space, so I think at present the best thing is to leave it there and see whether it gets improved. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:40, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Abdul Quddus Bizenjo

Hello! Your submission of Abdul Quddus Bizenjo at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 13:53, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Your speedy tags

Hi. Like JamesBWatson above, I am concerned that some of your CSD tags are being placed too hasty, and are incorrect.

Today, you tagged Stanley Leisure for CSD A7 ("No indication of importance") one minute after creation. The article only stated the company title; presumably because the new user just wanted to save the page and was potentially in the process of adding details. I did a quick search and found a news report in The Guardian that mentioned the casino. Specifically, placing {{db-person}} was definitely incorrect; this is the name of an organisation, not a person.

In general, if you see an article that doesn't look like it can be improved, check for sources first. Even if you're not sure of where to place them in the article, park them on the talk page and hopefully somebody will look into it. Additionally, aside from G3 (vandalism), G10 (libel) and G12 (copyvio), there is generally no need to tag for speedy deletion quickly - it's best to wait 10-15 minutes to see what the creator is going to do. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:49, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: Thanks for the tips. I will be careful. --Saqib (talk) 16:03, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Mark the train. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Dhruva advisors, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

MT Train^Talk 00:14, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

@Mark the train: And may I know why? --Saqib (talk) 04:44, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Apologies for the action, but I re-reviewed it. The article had no sources and hadn't been tagged so, but I did add the tag. Thanks, MT Train^Talk 05:31, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Thanks for your review of Nick Fuentes (article page.) Anticitizen 98 (talk) 11:38, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Your e-mail

The answer to your question is yes, but I can't promise what I will do with the information. Whatever I do, if anything, will comply with the relevant policies, though. Also, I don't reply to users' e-mail.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:01, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Cahk. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, St Mary's RC Primary School Newport, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Cahk (talk) 19:06, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

AML/CFT

Dear Saqib, I have deleted copyright part. Thanks for your information — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musifq.mehdiyev (talk • contribs) 06:57, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Musifq.mehdiyev: The article still has copyright material and IMO the page should be deleted and recreated. --Saqib (talk) 07:01, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Dear Saqib I have deleted the copyright part and added extra info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musifq.mehdiyev (talk • contribs)

As I said, the page still have copyvio. --Saqib (talk) 07:22, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Dear Saqib, I kindly ask you to review again, if the issue solved, please remove the tag, in future, I will try to be more careful Musifq.mehdiyev —Preceding undated comment added 07:50, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Diannaa: I believe the page should be deleted and re-created. --Saqib (talk) 08:09, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Dear @Diannaa:, After the tag of Saqib, I have deleted the parts which were mainly part of law and added extra information. Currently copyright vioaltion percentage is 2% (very unlikely) and don't see how deletion and re-creation will contribute to the process. Therefore, I suggest and if you consider also, lets add tag "expert needed" and "more information", so those interested could enrich the content. Musifq.mehdiyev (talk) 08:15, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Joe Roe. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Ibrahim Hadi, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

– Joe (talk) 09:17, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Joe Roe: I don't know why pages are being reviewed auto. I just placed the notability tag. --Saqib (talk) 09:19, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Ah, that'll be Twinkle. If you go to Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences, under Tag, and uncheck "Check the "mark page as patrolled" box by default", it will stop happening. – Joe (talk) 09:24, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Oh great. Thanks @Joe Roe:. --Saqib (talk) 09:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

No worries. I've asked whether this can be turned off by default at Wikipedia talk:Twinkle, because you're not the first person I've seen be tripped up by it. – Joe (talk) 09:32, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Pakistan articles

I applaud your efforts in this area. Coverage of Pakistan-related topics in English Wikipedia is patchy, and often very poor.

It is often much worse in the major languages of Pakistan. For example, compare Waqar Younis, ur:وقار یونس and pnb:وقار یونس. (Wasim Akram is another example.)

If you speak one or more of those languages, you might like to consider translating your additions to English Wiki into those languages (and making InterWiki links). I spend most of my time repairing links to disambiguation pages. (That's how I found you - there was a {{disambiguation needed}} tag on Ismail Shah.) I often look at corresponding articles in other languages for help (Google Translate is a wonderful thing). I have consulted more than 130 different Wikis; and have only once found useful information in Urdu Wiki, and never at all in either Punjabi or Western Punjabi. (If it's any consolation, that means that I have found more useful information in Urdu Wiki than I have in Hindi!) Regards, Narky Blert (talk) 09:51, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Possible issues at AfD. ~ Winged Blades^Godric 04:25, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

A request

Hi, Saqib, whilst I'm borderline as to !voting about Naseer Soomro, are you willing to temporally halt the proceedings of the AfD, unless and until I secure a reply at over here.Best,~ Winged Blades^Godric 06:20, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

@Winged Blades of Godric: I can withdraw it. --Saqib (talk) 07:39, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

many thanks:)I have temporally put it on hold, given that SNights, is an user who is quite experienced.AGF, NODEADLINE and all.....~ Winged Blades^Godric 07:46, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

@Winged Blades of Godric: Hi, any response from SouthernNights? --Saqib (talk) 08:19, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Sadiq Sanjrani

On 6 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sadiq Sanjrani, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that elected at age 39, Sadiq Sanjrani is the youngest-ever Chairman of the Senate of Pakistan? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sadiq Sanjrani. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sadiq Sanjrani), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Sindh Baloch Co-operative Housing Society

I came across this article by accident. I can't imagine a housing society being notable unless there are some exceptional circumstances but I have no idea here, just alerting you as I've seen you tag Pakistan related articles before. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 10:21, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

@SpacemanSpiff: I think this is a neighbourhood, not merely a housing society. --Saqib (talk) 12:32, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail

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ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. [8] 192.160.216.52 (talk) 12:49, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Borhan Khan

What about problem this article please check references