User talk:Jesanj

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Neutrality

Hi Jesanj. Thanks for your message. Let me explain the changes I made to the lead paragraph, so that even if you disagree, you'll hopefully understand what I was trying to accomplish. Let's say I'm someone who's never heard of the term "death panel" before, and someone mentions it on the radio, so I go to Wikipedia to look it up. What's the first thing I want to know? Who coined the phrase? Whether it's a big fat lie? No, what I want to know is "what is a death panel." That basic information was missing from the lead, and it's really essential to a reader's understanding.

Once we establish what Palin meant by the term, we can then analyze whether there's any truth to it. Well, the reliable sources tell us there's not any truth to it, so we can mention that, which the third paragraph does: "Although there was no such provision in the bill..."

A reasonable reader will conclude from that fact that what Palin said is false. We don't need to browbeat them or insult their intelligence by repeatedly adding the word "false" every time the claim is mentioned. Even if it is a fact that the death panels claim is BS (and it is), we need to be neutral in our presentation of that fact. Right now the body of the article is telling the reader that Palin is full of BS. Repeatedly. We don't need to treat our readers like children. Repeatedly using the words "lie", "false" and "myth" suggest that we're trying really hard to convince our readers that Palin is full of BS. But we don't need to. The facts will show that. Once we've presented our readers with the views of the reliable sources that are available to us, we can let them make up their own minds.

I hope this helps. 28bytes (talk) 19:51, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message and helpful explanation. I am going to disagree with you on a few points but I appreciate your message. McCaughey/Palin meant that on page 425 there were death panels. But they were mythical. The term was defined in the context of a false political myth that arose in response to proposed legislation. So, when you say "what is a death panel", that's what it is. There was no death panel. It doesn't exist in the sense of this article. The only way we have an article is because of the notability of publications written about the BS this term encompassed. (Perhaps the article title should be Death panels myth or Death panels (political lie) to make this point more clear.) It seems we're making up definitions when we define it. (And giving the term too much credit.) Also, I could be off on a tangent here, but your whole argument seems like like you're saying, well, humans can react negatively towards evidence (confirmation bias/attitude polarization) so we should break the news easy. You know, give the term the benefit of the doubt in the lead. (But I have seen no papers or books on the subject do that.) If my interpretation of your approach is right, I understand the logic, it might change more minds, but I think we are here to reflect reliable sources and not to tiptoe around the flaws of human psychology. =) O, and I was just reflecting RS when I kept putting in lie, false and myth. I'm thinking that we don't need to waste time in setting up a false scenario whereby people can make up their own minds. RS have done the deciding for us. Jesanj (talk) 16:39, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jesanj. I was about to resume work on the death panels article but I noticed you've started to undo the changes that Gatoclass and I have made. Given that, I think, at this point, it's best that I step away from the article. My advice would be for you to seek out an experienced editor who has worked on contentious political articles and see if they'd be willing to work with you on the death panels article to get it more acceptable from an NPOV perspective. I understand that you think it's fine the way it is, but given that several other editors at DYK have expressed concerns about it, I would hope you would listen to them and be willing to work with them rather that dismissing their views about the article. I'm withdrawing my participation from the article and its DYK discussion, but if a new-and-improved version of the article gets approved for the main page, I'll be sure to read it. 28bytes (talk) 14:21, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Death panels (political term)

On 5 December 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Death panels (political term), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the term "death panels," which Sarah Palin (pictured) coined on her Facebook page, was named "Lie of the Year" by PolitiFact.com and the "Most Outrageous" word of 2009 by the American Dialect Society? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Newt and death panels

I previously took out wording about Gingrich "admitting" something because I don't see where he really admits anything.[1] He says it is technically true that rationing is not in the bill. I think it is just a rhetorical device to lead into his argument that the legislation is "all but certain" to result in rationing. So I added the word technically, but it's okay with me if you remove it, because I don't think whether the word technically should be used is a major issue here.

The real question here, I think, is whether Gingrich's op ed should be used as a source at all? It seems to say very little about the term death panels, and it contains many logical leaps. I started to look for another source of quotes from Gingrich see if he put it a bit better on another occasion, and this is the next thing that came up. [2]. It seems to me that in the clip, and in the LAT op ed, he was more interested in looking for arguments that might catch stir anti-legislation sentiment than in actually analyzing Palin's term or giving a direct view on it. That leads to the question of whether Gingrich should be mentioned in this article at all? Certainly he was a significant voice in the debate on the legislation, but what did he really say about "death panels"? For now, I am just adding the word "technically" because that is what he says in his op ed. Here is the diff. I will be looking for better sources on the Speaker's views on death panels. Regards -KeptSouth (talk) 06:08, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you that taking out the word "admitting" is ideal, thanks. I understand your focus on the term, but I would still say, yes, Gingrich's op-ed belongs. The section it is under is Reactions, and it appears to reflect his reaction to the term. If the U.S. had a political party that consistently got 25% of the vote, and many of them said the term makes them think of purple elephants, and there were RS, I'd say it belongs because it is a notable reaction (even if it doesn't illuminate anything about the the term itself). Thanks for the message. Jesanj (talk) 12:48, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I think Gingrich's reaction should be in the article, because of his prominence, and because he usually has something interesting to say. The LAT op ed may not be the best example though, so I will look for another example from or about Gingrich's reaction, and will discuss it on the talk page. -Regards-KeptSouth (talk) 23:02, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More death panels discussion

Jesanj - I responded a couple of days ago to your long note on my talk page about the Ivan Illich quote from 1975 that you believe is relevant to the Death panels (political term) article. Would you read over our discussion there and my comments on the article talk page, and respond on the article talk page if you still believe this quote is pertinent to the article? I think we have narrowed the issues down, and that it should now be clear I was not objecting to the inclusion of material by a contemporary author, as I believe you seemed to think. In the meantime, I have removed the passage as irrelevant, but I am certainly amenable to discussion and compromise if you can offer some specific reasons to keep this passage in the article, and in doing so, can make this an issue about which reasonable people can differ.

If we cannot reach an agreement, then I think we should proceed to dispute resolution and ask for a WP:Third opinion. If others chime in, then we will have to go to the noticeboard. I contemplate removing two other passages are apparently snippets of academics sniping at each other, but I will post a separate discussion of those on the talk page before I remove them. Please consider this as a civil discussion of the issues only. I appreciate your civil tone, and I anticipate keeping all discussion between us at that same level. Hope you have a nice holiday. -Regards-KeptSouth (talk) 10:17, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, you too. =) Jesanj (talk) 14:31, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Other quotes

I did remove the other quotes and left a discussion on the talk page under "Removing vague internally referential quotes from academics" that you may want to check, and discuss if you want. I will check the talk page daily throughout the week, and I am more than willing to discuss this or to compromise as I indicated in my note above.-Regards-KeptSouth (talk) 11:31, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removing comments on article talk page

As you know, I moved around one out of sequence comment and changed a few indent levels while carefully indicating the WP provisions I was relying on. Why? Because generally, we are not supposed to change anything on an article talk page - the minor edits I did were an exception to the rule. Please see WP:Talk page guidelines#Editing comments. Accordingly, I have restored the text you recently removed from the article talk page. -Best regaaards-KeptSouth (talk) 07:50, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Changing dates on article talk page

Also a bit of an issue here - signature dates are not supposed to be changed as you did [3], [4]. Same guidelines will explain.-Best regards- KeptSouth (talk) 08:07, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Response

Talkpage reply removed. Discussion: User_talk:Jimmuldrow#hello_2 Jesanj (talk) 15:04, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

		The Special Barnstar
		For your consistent, gradual improvement of Death panel. It's not easy working on such controversial topics, but you seem to be handling yourself well. Kelly ^hi! 22:25, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to congratulate you for how you're handling issues with this article - when I first came across it, it was in sad shape NPOV-wise...but every time I go back to look, it seems to have gotten just a little bit better. I try to be careful about editing topics like this (when I have a personal point of view on the issue) but I now have high hopes that this will eventually be a quality article with the type of content you can't find anywhere but Wikipedia. Kelly ^hi! 22:24, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Second Barnstar

		The Socratic Barnstar
		For consistent and excellent arguments in the face of zealous ignorance, this Barnstar is awarded to Jesanj. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 10:41, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hi Jesanj: It was good to meet to you at the meetup today. Let's keep in touch. — Ganeshk (talk) 20:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was nice to meet you too. Agreed. Jesanj (talk) 21:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, Have you considered joining a WikiProject? I thought the WikiProject United States Public Policy may interest you. — Ganeshk (talk) 22:08, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion I will check it out. Jesanj (talk) 03:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kudos

Good work adding fact check matter on the Independent Payment Advisory Board! Thanks for doing that. -- Dauster (talk) 11:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Hauskalainen

Just take him to AN/I. You have a lot of support behind you regarding his actions/behavior and I think this may be best served with Administrator attention. Dusti^*poke* 04:19, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

POV pushing again

I see you have again been pushing back into the article texts which not very long ago you agreed to remove. It is totally POV to insert allegations that are unbalanced. For example the claim that NICE is a "rationing body". It is a body responsible for informing the medical profession of clinical best practice, reviewing new technologies and pressing for their introduction where appropriate (and which occasionally sets "coverage rules"). This latter role, which is a very small part of NICE's overall responsibility is exactly what private insurance companies do in America. If you are going to insert misleading claims into WP (even if they have come from British sources) then that has to be balanced. It would be better all around if the article just focussed on the main claim that Palin made in relation to "Death Panels", and that was that she claimed that her elderly parents and her disabled son might end up in front of a panel established by Obama where they would have to plead for their lives based on their worth to society. All this other stuff about NICE and IPAB is pure fluff and distraction. As I think you are perfectly aware. Hauskalainen (talk) 19:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your concern. But we are asked to stay on topic. Thus, a necessary evil appears to be that one article may not treat a related topic as neutrally as the main article should (in this case, the NICE article). I don't think one should be suprised if this necessary evil occured on the main article for a political term. Nor would I consider it POV pushing, just proper editing. Jesanj (talk) 19:44, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I figured we could put in "one function" to ease your mind. Jesanj (talk) 19:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You reverted 13 carefully explained edits of mine claiming them to be "vandalism". I am going to reinstate my edit version. At least you must justífy each reversion. Then we can discuss what is to be done if we have a difference of opinion. IMHO you are the one who is engaging in vandalism by unwarrranted support for the inclusion of WP:FRINGE theories and by the placement of texts that you find to be inconsistent with a view you are trying to portray. This article ought to be very straightforward. The IPAB was created to set Medicare reimbursement rates under a rule in which the changes would become effective unless congress overruled them. This replaces the old system where IMAC would recommend changes to congress but congress often failed to act on the advice. Stating the merits for one arrangement over the other should take no more than a couple of sentences with references to web sites that make the arguments. Wikipedia should not be publishing the arguments of each side because that would be using Wikipedia as another talking shop and that IS NOT ITS PURPOSE.Hauskalainen (talk) 10:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

? That was a mistake and I reverted myself that same minute. Jesanj (talk) 12:47, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hauskalainen

I have reported Hauskalainen at the admin notice board. Here is the link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#More_problems_with_Hauskalainen Intermittentgardener (talk) 21:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have been talking to yourself again. Do not make the mistake of thinking that this will provide you with a defence against wp:sock.It won't.~~

Re: Question

Hi Jesanj, AutoWikiBrowser is most helpful for tasks that affect a number of articles. For example, finding and replacing a string across articles, adding a category to a set of articles. AutoWikiBrowser/Real user manual hopefully will be expanded to include more examples. — Ganeshk (talk) 01:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Sockpuppetry allegation

You may wish to be aware that an allegation of sockpuppetry has been made by another editor about Angel's flight at AN/I and I have repeated there my allegation that there is sockpuppetry going on at the articles that Angel's flight and certain other editors including you have been editing in a way that strongly suggests you are connected persons. The main allegation though is about Angel's flight. I know that you have welcomed a checkuser against your ID so you will not be concerned if this happens as a result of my additional comments at AN/I. I see that again your recent edit here [here] is identical to Angelä's flight edit here. As I say WP is not a place to promote some really whacky ideas, even if they have been published by reliable sources. There are limits.Hauskalainen (talk) 15:20, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

People agreeing with each other is not enough to prove sockpuppetry. If people never agreed we would never be able to reach consensus and nothing would get done. Intermittentgardener (talk) 20:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hauskalainen is repeating his sockpuppetry allegations here in the context of a 3RR report that I made against him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:hauskalainen_reported_by_User:intermittentgardener_.28Result:_.29 Intermittentgardener (talk) 20:48, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I saw... Jesanj (talk) 20:49, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

April 24, 2011

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April 27, 2011

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Thanks for the barnstar!

--Regards--KeptSouth (talk) 10:51, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. =) Jesanj (talk) 13:39, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo Talk Page

The edits I made were mostly just a call for better citations. I'll be sure to engage the Talk Page before I make any more edits. Thanks for your help! Ratfinx (talk) 18:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

French India Socialist Party

Hello. Thanks for the DYK review. I have expanded the article and copyedited some. Also added a new hook proposal. --Soman (talk) 01:20, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marisol Deluna Talk Page

Hi Jesanj, I refrained from replying in the articles talk page and moved it to the editors talk page as you suggested but the original comments are still there and I was wondering if I needed to remove them or leave them? The editor who made the accusations has *partially* apologized but their comments are still there as well. Do you know the correct course of action to take at this point? Thanks again. Aa1232011 (talk) 14:26, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can take a look at Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines but I doubt there is anything that should be done. You're welcome. Jesanj (talk) 15:02, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Fee-for-service

On 11 July 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fee-for-service, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the fee-for-service model encourages overutilization, which is a major factor behind the high cost of U.S. health care? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Overutilization

On 11 July 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Overutilization, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the fee-for-service model encourages overutilization, which is a major factor behind the high cost of U.S. health care? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

thanks!

for the notification regarding my user page. --Soman (talk) 12:02, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. =) Jesanj (talk) 12:41, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

thanks for adding the intro message onto the Fall 2011 section of my user talk page. I appreciate it! Annie Lin (Campus Team Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 04:35, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

I replied on my Talk page to you. -- Avanu (talk) 15:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support

Thanks for the support, much appreciated. Jabbsworth (talk) 03:23, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Euthanasia

Just wondering, why did you remove my referral to the Groningen Protocol? I used it as example of the strict and well described conditions to avoid prosecution in case of involuntary or non-voluntary euthanasia. Night of the Big Wind _talk 18:41, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it might be overly detailed, for the lead. I was thinking other people could click on that type of euthanasia (or go down the page) to get more details if they want. But I wouldn't object to it being put back in. Jesanj (talk) 19:47, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marisol Deluna- External Links

Is there any way you can help me by compiling a list in a proper Wikipedia format using some of my original research? It seems as if I keep making things more difficult than they should be. I can send you the information that was deleted if this makes it easier and fine tune it a bit to only include projects online. Fingers crossed and thank you either way. ElizabethCB123 (talk) 18:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For external links? Can you provide the diff where your original research was removed? You can post below. I don't mind. But, no offence, I'm not terribly interested in the subject. I got involved in an attempt to cool down some heated and inappropriate exchanges. So no promises. But I don't mind spending a little bit of time. Thanks. Jesanj (talk) 19:20, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Sample List of Non-profit Designs Found Online:

The following were found on and offline- Yet are not Encyclopedic. (Company Website and Facebook) I will continue to search for "Verifiable Articles".

A Sample List of Non-profit Designs Part 2:

Alamo Heights Independent School District
American Yacht Club
Association of Junior Leagues International
Campus De Excelencia- Spain
City Garden Club of the City of New York
Cosmopolitan Club of New York
Covert Girls- England
Daughters of the American Revolution- London
Daughters of the British Empire
Daughters of the Founders and Patriots of the State of New York
Fiesta San Antonio
Friends of the Canary Islands
The General Society of Mechanics and Tradesmen of the City of New York
Hamilton College
Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
Junior League of Central Westchester- New York
Junior League of the City of New York
Junior League of Greater Princeton
Junior League of Philadelphia- Pennsylvania
Junior League of Raleigh- North Carolina
Junior League of Richmond- Virginia
Lotos Club New York
National Society of Colonial Dames of the State of Georgia
National Society of Colonial Dames of the State of New York
National Society of Colonial Dames of the State of North Carolina
New England Society
New York City Housing Authority (http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycha/html/pr/storecatalogue.shtml)
San Antonio Convention and Visitors Bureau
Shooting Society- England
Sioux City Symphony Guild
Smith College
Sunset Club of Seattle
University of Houston
Wellesley College

Thank you a million times over as my understanding of Wikipedia is improving daily due to editors such as yourself. Now off to my grandchildren! Beth ElizabethCB123 (talk) 21:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is essentially a list of product offerings right? If so, I'm unaware of any encyclopedic use here. Jesanj (talk) 18:12, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your efforts. I noted these purely for your use as a gauge to understand that she is a designer that is not as I mentioned, "runway" yet rather has taken a different route. Her page stands at one sentence and one reference. I have never seen anything like this. ElizabethCB123 (talk) 23:43, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have just added two more references in addition to the book for the Pilgrims Society to slow the continued mockery of another user after I stated being familiar with her work in London. He is trying to pinpoint my identity in the most unflattering matter. Can you remind him again? Thank you for expanding her inclusion. ElizabethCB123 (talk) 18:22, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. I will. Thanks for the note. If it doesn't work you can politely explain (and provide diffs) that the user keeps accusing you of being a sock puppet and the subject of the article (who appears to have also posted). You could do this at Wikipedia:Wikiquette_assistance or probably Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents is best. The editor shouldn't be accusing you of sockpuppetry. I mean, it's a step in the right direction that they said they might apologize if they were proven wrong! Sad, hunh? But they shouldn't be putting their neck out. There is an open case. It will be dealt with. It's clearly inapproprate. Be polite. Keep it simple if you post. And mention the how they said they might apologize if proven wrong so you are fair. Maybe just ask others/an administrator to admonish the user. But I'm going to post a diff of this on their talk page and tell them I think they shouldn't be putting their neck out like that. Maybe it will be unnecessary to go elsewhere. Jesanj (talk) 19:32, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote that before I saw the invective of his most recent personal attack. Sorry you're having to put up with this. Jesanj (talk) 21:08, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"At least sign your posts, if you must continue this tedious blathering. And I would assert that you clearly don't know the difference between your proverbial bottom and a hole in the ground. And to the one under the rock from which you crawled I wish you would soon return. Respectfully.Tao2911 (talk) 01:25, 12 August 2011 (UTC)" This is now crossing the line in my life on or offline. Can we report him? I don't know how. ElizabethCB123 (talk) 01:56, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I see two other editors have followed suit. I don't know if I am allowed, but on his own page he attacked me. Can I add any of this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tao2911#Marisol_Deluna. To think I originally went to him for assistance. ElizabethCB123 (talk) 03:33, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're allowed, but I seriously doubt it would make a difference. It looks like it might settle itself. We can get back to more meaningful editing, I think. =) Jesanj (talk) 12:41, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read Tao's contribution on the "Noticeboard"? He states the professor in question never taught her- How would he know this? Most high tier art schools have studies outside of one's own degree. I will not contribute to avoid additional dispute. ElizabethCB123 (talk) 13:59, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Tao2911/Archive. He has a bit of a history. I have decided to add a comment on the noticeboard. ElizabethCB123 (talk) 14:37, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your request of 14:39, 14 August 2011

In your edit to my talk page on 14:39, 14 August 2011 14:39, 14 August 2011 [5] you expressed a willingness to provide a third opinion on the dispute. The following is a brief summary.

Adrian has edited large numbers of articles related to Transylvania ~~to remove Hungarian elements from them~~ this seems unnecessary [6]. His edits have been disputed on three articles:

Sighișoara - on 12 August Adrian merely wanted to delete the Hungarian name for the city from the infobox, but his demands have expanded to wanting to delete the German language name as well.
Sibiu - on 12 August Adrian merely wanted to delete the Hungarian name for the city from the infobox, but his demands have expanded to wanting to delete the German language name as well. He had earlier said [7] "it is considered a center/capital for the German minority in Romania, and as such it should have German name present in the infobox even if there isn`t a single German man living in that city"
Transylvanian Saxons - the dispute is about whether Adrian should delete the Hungarian names from a list of seven Medieval fortified towns populated by the Saxons of Transylvania (the Siebenburgen). Adrian is currently content to allow the German language names to stand.

Transylvania was annexed by Romania in 1918, before that it was part of Hungary. Part of Transylvania was reoccupied by Hungary in 1940-44, so this is an area of national sensitivities. Before 1918, the name used by English people for these places was often the German name or the Hungarian name, which makes the German and Hungarian names are quite useful to English Wikipedia readers.

It is probably worth knowing that the Romanian Tourist Office website lists both the Romanian and German names for the Siebenburgen. Bearing in mind the political background, it is understandable that the Romanian Government does not display the Hungarian language names.

The main places for discussion appear to be:

Reference has been made to two old discussions:

A March 2010 Administrators' noticeboard discussion on Hungarian names of Romanian places, which concluded that "the correct method is that the article is housed at the Romanian placename, with the Hungarian placename in the infobox and lede.... unless the English language name is better known". There is a comment by the person who did the summary, which seemed to set aside the 2007 decision mentioned below.
A 2007 move discussion for a place called Odorheiu Secuiesc, which it is claimed to be the source of a "rule" that in places with 20% less population Hungarian language names should not be present in the infobox of the article.

--Toddy1 (talk) 17:52, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I normally keep my nose out of Romanian/Hungarian articles. I just happened to have the one on Transylvanian Saxons on my watch list. The reason I was concerned by the edits, was because of the ethnic/linguistic element. This rang alarm bells in my head. I have been involved in defending articles on Central and Eastern Ukraine from nationalist extremists (usually from USA/Canada) who wish to delete the Russian-language name or the English name originally based on the Russian-language name.--Toddy1 (talk) 18:24, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I've been a bit sidetracked... I'm not sure how much help I'll be. My apologies. =/ Jesanj (talk) 23:36, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Please read my message there... I'd be glad to help... but currently, the "article" is nothing more than an attack page. Please check out other business pages for an idea of what that article should look like. ROBERTMFROMLI | ^TK/_CN 21:29, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Requesting Deletion

I posted a request for deletion on the AFD page. I hadn't noticed your vote until afterwards, yet understand how editors came to this conclusion. Your efforts have certainly been time consuming. Best in your editing as your topics tend to be quite diverse and complex. Fantastic! Love, MPD MDELUNANY (talk) 06:52, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The Hispanic Business coverage definitely changes my calculation though. Thanks for providing it. It must be an odd experience to see people rationalizing whether or not you're "important enough" here. Thanks again. Jesanj (talk) 16:50, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, well. Kissinger, Haig and Cronkite probably weren't fully appreciated in their day, either. Msnicki (talk) 22:33, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Midei

Yes, I'll be taking another look. A lot pending. Will try to do it today. Cbl62 (talk) 16:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again. Jesanj (talk) 16:47, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An (isolated) apology re: Deluna page

I finally actually clicked on the Facebook link on her page and realized that it went to her business ID there, and not her personal. I think a previous one had linked to her personal page, and that is what I thought I was deleting. So apologies! You were right! I still think the page should go however - surprising, I know.Tao2911 (talk) 21:02, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for mentioning that. I could have done better too. I could have also offered a more detailed explanation. Thanks again. Jesanj (talk) 21:38, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Midei

30 stents inserted in eight patients in one day. Multiple Stents commonly used. 11,000 $ per procedure, not per stent. Midei was paid salary, not dependent on fee for service — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssessions111 (talk • contribs) 00:18, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info. I wonder what payers were billed that day. With or without FFS, "The board noted that he was hired as an employee by the hospital 'at triple his previous salary' and that 'he was employed under circumstances in which any employee would feel at least some pressure to produce a high volume of stents.'"[8] Jesanj (talk) 02:44, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Mark Midei for deletion

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WP:PAID

I re-edited some of your changes. See the talk page for detailed rationale, but the main thing is that I don't want this to become the same perennial debate on "paid editing" or "COI", this is a very specific thing, people who are paid for the specific purpose of editing Wikipedia for promotional or advocacy reasons, not someone who merely edits with a COI. Gigs (talk) 03:30, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't remove other editors' comments

Especially without contacting those editors and asking for permission beforehand. Thanks! [9] --Ronz (talk) 04:23, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I thought we might have bit, but my apologies, you're right. I should have ran that by you. Jesanj (talk) 15:51, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sock puppet

I have been accused, found guilty, accused and found guilty again. However- I am a former assistant to a subject matter that has since been deleted. My edits were viewed as a conflict of interest which eventually got her involved and rightfully so, cost me my job. I am sorry to all editors I troubled- Especially you. Beth ElizabethCB123 (talk) 04:51, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't remove important information, even if by mistake

After going through and correcting the name (including new name) of Penn Med, and then adding citations, you went and most of the changes without noting why. You reverted the page back to the former name of the school. My guess is that you were editing at the same time and didn't notice, but you had reverted some others' changes as well. Please be careful of this.

On another note, thanks for cleaning the page up. I plan to add a history soon and would appreciate if you decide to go through it afterward. Hazmat2 (talk) 19:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the move. I don't know why the long name is necessary to put in the first sentence, however. Lets discuss it at the talk page of Perelman School of Medicine. Thanks. Jesanj (talk) 20:51, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. Having it in the name section is good enough, now that it's moved closer to the top of the article under history. I just felt the old name is still strongly associated with the school and of course will be for awhile so it needs to be there somewhere. And of course the official (long version) name should be included somewhere just for the sake of being thorough. Hazmat2 (talk) 20:55, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Becker's Hospital Review and deleting awards

Hello Jesanj. I understand your concern with the need to have credible sources in Wiki articles. It seems that you do not consider Becker's Hospital Review awards to be up to your standards. You cited that your reasoning for this as not being able to find relevant articles on Google Scholar, as well as a cross comparison with U.S. News and World Report.

Although Becker's Hospital Review is not on the same level as U.S. News and World Report, it is not trying to be. Here is a list of some of the hospitals throughout the past year that have been recognized, and recognize Becker's by reposting, a variety of lists as credible awards. Brigham and Women's Hospital, one of the hospitals that you deleted our award recognition from, is included in the group that reposts its recognition. Is this adequate for Wikipedia approval?

Lubbock Heart Hospital SSM Health Care Henrico Doctors’ Hospital Brigham and Women's Hospital Augusta Health

BHC123 (talk) 03:25, 4 October 2011 (UTC)BHC123[reply]

It is probably best to discuss this at Wikipedia:NPOVN#Are_Becker.27s_Hospital_Review_lists_worth_including_at_hospital_pages.2C_and_if_so.2C_how_much_weight_is_due.3F. However, I am not arguing it is a blanket unreliable source (or citing Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources). I'm making an argument about significance and weight. Are you Tgoldst5 or 24.13.228.80? Jesanj (talk) 07:15, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, to more specifically answer this question I would say no. Those sources are self-published and unduly self-serving. By contrast, Wikipedia articles are to be "based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". Jesanj (talk) 19:08, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Jesanji. To answer your first question, no I am neither of those editors. Secondly, if it is a matter of significance and weight, who is the person that would make the final decision on the matter? If it is decided that the awards are not significant for wikipedia then so be it, but it would be nice to have an additional user confirm the decision.

Thanks, BHC123 (talk) 20:26, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK thanks, because if you were either of those editors it wouldn't be good. Also, do you know them? That can raise issues too. But to answer your question, decisions here are made by consensus. I started the discussion thread at WP:NPOVN to generate a more robust consensus. Jesanj (talk) 20:50, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We still have no consensus on the question you posed for the neutral perspective forum. How do we get this resolved? BHC123 (talk) 02:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive me, but I'm a tad confused. I started the thread and tried to direct you there by saying "It is probably best to discuss this" there but now it seems you're dissatisfied that no one commented. I'm leaning towards interpreting the silence as consensus. What kind of edits do you want to make here? Jesanj (talk) 02:32, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:2008 Top1percentUSA.png

Hello, thank you. I really appreciate your comments, and I have updated to 2008, the latest data available. Spread far and wide! - Roy Boy 00:48, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And here's another file.[10] Jesanj (talk) 06:31, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Windsor Talk Page

A previous discussion resulted in an administrator suggestion that Miszabot archive at 30-45 days of inactivity. Why did you change it to 180 days? SGMD1 ^Talk/_Contribs 18:28, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because I was thinking about making some edits to the page and I didn't think all that archiving was necessary. I wanted to see what people had recently said on the talk page to guide my potential research. Jesanj (talk) 18:38, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Since the 30-45 day inactivity time-frame was based on discussion, changing that timeframe should probably have some discussion first and not be done unilaterally. There's a big "archive" button at the top of the talk page to see previous discussions. SGMD1 ^Talk/_Contribs 18:54, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Considering the 30 days value was merely a suggestion that also contained the phrase "Even the most active, crazy talk pages rarely have archive times shorter than 20-30 days", and another user said "There's good reason to leave it and no good reason to archive it", I don't agree. I think it might be best for you to revert your recent edit.[11] Jesanj (talk) 18:59, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion also states that it shouldn't be changed unilaterally. Why not discuss it first on the talk page? SGMD1 ^Talk/_Contribs 19:02, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Jesanj (talk) 19:05, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Integrative medicine

Whatever you felt, i do not think it was fair to wholesale delete what i wrote. I believe i had very valid points. And if information from a real live doctor was insufficient, and if all you want to go by are biased published articles on a NEW and YOUNG subject, then there is little more I can to to help things. I am sorry you all feel this way — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zylla1 (talk • contribs) 23:01, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Integrative Medicine

Some of the best doctors do not publish to the New England Journal of Medicine. NEJM is a bastion of conservative conventional medicine, and any real information on integrative medicine is not to be found there. I am sorry, but I think I am done contributing to wiki. I have not found it a good use of my time. If you really want to know more about integrative medicine, check out www.acam.org and/or www.sufairchild.com and/or even better yet: http://www.acamnet.org/site/c.ltJWJ4MPIwE/b.5457445/k.CCC8/What_is_Integrative_Medicine.htm Just doing a cut and paste from ACAM's website definition will be lots better than the current wiki page. I am sorry, but the current page is the most anti-Integrative page I have ever read, which is why I felt the need to do something about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zylla1 (talk • contribs) 05:44, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Wealth inequality

It probably would not be too hard to find sources supporting a stronger statement like "Wealth inequality has been a central concern of OWS protesters". I mean, isn't it the number one concern? Would you mind taking a look for some sources on Google news? I'm running out of energy. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 02:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look, but I searched at first for only income inequality. I thought it might get nitpicked if the source just said wealth inequality. Jesanj (talk) 02:17, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hah, nits are to be picked! I found a rock-solid source from the Council on Foreign Relations. I'll add that now. I will strengthen the claim and cite to that source. Feel free to either list other sources you find here, or add them to the end of the sentence I'm about to rewrite. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 02:20, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added one source each for wealth and income equality. And with that, I think I'm done for the night. Don't have the will to continue debating other possible issues surrounding that section/graph/caption/etc. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 02:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What I found didn't seem to fit in the caption anyways. I added to and expanded the Federal Reserve section.[12] Jesanj (talk) 02:43, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Did you post your DYK suggestion to the correct page? Is there an interest of mine in the article that I am missing?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:13, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. I threw it your way (as you're a pro) so as not to waste it. But you know what? I'm under the 5 DYK so I don't have to review an article. I'll submit mine and go to bed! My apologies. =) Jesanj (talk) 05:19, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Robert Martensen

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Template talk:Healthcare in the United States

Re. Template:Healthcare in the United States

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I have created an edit-war report regarding the actions of Dualus (talk · contribs) here.

Best, Chzz ► 21:00, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please see a discussion that concerns you at User talk:EdJohnston#US healthcare templates. My advice to Dualus is to stop reverting at the Template:Health care reform in the United States until consensus is reached, and since you've been on the other side, it would help if you would do the same. Notice the result of WP:AN3#User:Dualus reported by User:Chzz (Result: Protected). Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:24, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note, both of you. Jesanj (talk) 04:28, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of 13 Bankers: The Wall Street Takeover and the Next Financial Meltdown

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Contesting

That needed a move;not a direct redirect.Wikipedia has a policy(See section A3).So I proposed for deletion.Best,That's me! ^{Have doubt?} What I done? 06:59, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So,Would I delete that page?I think that will be a good idea.That's me! ^{Have doubt?} What I done? 07:02, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect automatically comes.If you type 13 bankers it will come.So proposed as author requests deletion.(G7).

Done That's me! ^{Have doubt?} What I done? 07:08, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks

Thanks for your supportive comments. Indifference is, perhaps, the best medicine in general, but sometimes I get the feeling that a particular article at a particular time is so squarely in the public eye, and has invited so much attention from involved/interested parties wishing to edit the article, that the world needs to be protected from Wikipedia, if only in a limited way and for a limited time. Thus I find it difficult to turn a blind eye when my personal perception is that an article with a very high profile has become an entrenched soapboxing ground. Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 16:28, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I sympathize with you. Jesanj (talk) 20:24, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't see the OR?

You can't see the OR in equating Jesus to a "second Adam" or the beautiful phrase "with the first Adam there is death, but with the second Adam there is life"? This is nowhere in the New Testament and is the invention whoever added this sentence. It is the DEFINITION of original research. Adding a 'cn' doesn't make it NOT original research. 98.247.55.10 (talk) 20:42, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll tag it as possible OR then! =) You can too. There are things like these: Wikipedia:Template_messages/Cleanup#Inline_with_article_text_6 Jesanj (talk) 20:44, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I did tag it as OR [13], until you UNTAGGED it. I tagged it OR and gave it a decent amount of time to be fixed. It wasn't, so I deleted it per WP:OR. 98.247.55.10 (talk) 20:47, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your patience. Can I request a little more? It's currently tagged as OR. Jesanj (talk) 20:48, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very well. I gave the section 19 days to be fixed before I deleted it. I'll give it another two weeks. If it doesn't meet muster by then, I'll re-remove it per policy. 98.247.55.10 (talk) 20:52, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have found 1 Corinthians 15:22, for example: "For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive." (NIV) Jesanj (talk) 20:55, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't exactly match the text in the article, but it's a start. Not sure if that's enough to warrant inclusion here, but if you can work that without WP:SYNthesis, I can go with it. 98.247.55.10 (talk) 21:01, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Romans 5 might help.[14] I think it's OK now though. Jesanj (talk) 23:06, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Trade?

Would you like to review one of my GANs if I review your Death panel article? Binksternet (talk) 01:49, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can; however, as it will be my first time, I may be a bit shoddy, pesky and/or clumsy. Are you OK with that? Jesanj (talk) 02:26, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm okay with that. ^_^

Binksternet (talk) 05:39, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I feel like I should say one more thing. As you've probably seen on the talk page, I'll probably be pretty pesky insisting that the death panel article is currently neutral. I mean, I'll make arguments, but I appear to have chased away one potential copy-editor, who came to the page, by making them. Also perhaps you should take a look at my comments at WP:NPOVN.[15] Jesanj (talk) 06:18, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, it looks like Amadscientist picked up the GAN for review. I will jump in and help tweak the article as needed. Binksternet (talk) 17:44, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I do now owe another a GAR. Is there one you had in mind? Maybe if Amadscientist has one up we could do a triangle. Now I see he has Occupy Wall Street up. Hmmm... that may be more complicated than others. Jesanj (talk) 18:24, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You don't owe me a review! It turns out that I am unable to review OWS because of my prior involvement, making significant edits to the article. Same with Jacksoncw who will not be able to complete the review for the same reason. Binksternet (talk) 18:41, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Cross logo

OK ... I fixed everything. The rationale had already been uploaded with the original image, so that wasn't too much of a problem.

But, I converted the image to a transparent .PNG and reduced it to the 300px limit (and in the process marked your original for deletion). Check it out in the article now. Daniel Case (talk) 01:59, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interview

Hi, I am a Wikipedian and researcher from Carnegie Mellon University, working with Professors Robert E. Kraut and Aniket Kittur. We’ve published many scholarly papers on Wikipedia and are partnering with the Wikimedia Foundation on several new projects.

I have been analyzing collaboration in Wikipedia, especially Collaborations of the Week/Month. My analysis of seven years of archival Wikipedia data shows that Collaborations of the Week/Month substantially increase the amount and nature of project members’ contributions, with long lasting effects. We would like to talk to Wikipedians to better understand the processes that that produce this behavior change.

We’ve identified you as a particularly good candidate to speak with because of your involvement with the WikiProject Medicine' Collaborations, which is one of those we’ve been investigating. It would really help us if you would be willing to have a short talk with us, less than 30 minutes of your time. We can talk via skype or instant messenger or other means if you’d prefer. Do you have time at any point during this week to chat? If so, please send an email to haiyiz@cs.cmu.edu or drop a line on my talk page.

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Mike McQueary

Sorry, thought it was already in the Sporting News article. I found a source for it in my next edit. HangingCurve^{Swing for the fence} 18:37, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Dowbiggin

No, I do not agree with you. Most of that data will go back in, with some substituted as discussed at BLPN. Please stop contacting me; I am not interested in how you feel about teaching people "lessons". Jabbsworth 05:35, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So you stand by your revert[16] despite criticism from me and at BLP? Jesanj (talk) 06:19, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, last comment on this: the "hatred of Christian moral teaching" phrase is uncertain in origin. It could, in fact, be exactly what he said, or it could be editorialising. Because of the ambiguity, I gave ground on that point. Other than that, I neither know nor care what point you seem obsessed with making. Leave me out of your peregrinations around WP please. I don't have the time. Thanks. Jabbsworth 09:51, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. Jesanj (talk) 19:05, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You were blocked indefinitely. I am not surprised. Jesanj (talk) 21:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Meetup

It was good to meet today! LadyofShalott 01:50, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mutation rate

Please see response at Talk:Adam and Eve#Mutation rate and time frame. Thanks! Kaldari (talk) 22:38, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replied, thanks. Jesanj (talk) 23:00, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replied to your reply :) Kaldari (talk) 00:49, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts

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Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Death panel/1

Please see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines for how to insert comments in the middle of another user's previous comment. The responses you made removed attribution and confused the chronology, but I have clarified using a method recommended at Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Regards KeptSouth (talk) 12:15, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Left follow up message on copyright issue

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Thanks

Thanks for the update on the US Collab page. --Kumioko (talk) 19:54, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Brown–Kaufman amendment

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Reverting lots of newbie work

If you look closely, this material does appear to be sourced, in fact. I agree that it's probably COI, but don't you think it would be worth dropping a note on the user's or the article's talk page instead of simply reverting without any comment other than an abbreviated edit summary? Selery (talk) 08:05, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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99% declaration has been nominated for deletion

Feel free to weigh in on the discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/99 Percent Declaration (2nd nomination).--Amadscientist (talk) 11:21, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Rinat Akhmetov

Hi,

thank you for your contributions to the article. Would you be so kind to look at the article again, specifically at the templates I have applied, due to constant breaking of Wiki NPOV and BLP policies by Львівське. Thank you, --Orekhova (talk) 15:04, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cousens

Thanks for the tip! I hadn't thought of him as an author, but he definitely has published at least 4 books which received significant mention in multiple sources. I can't believe his notability is still in question, frankly. Hopefully the closing admin will see the same. Ocaasi^{t | c} 10:10, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Message at Gabriel Cousens talk page

Here. Any help appreciated. Tom Reedy (talk) 04:31, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Individual mandate

An article that we worked on is experiencing a disagreement,[18] and I wonder if you might want to weigh in?

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individual mandate

Indented line

Are you taking out my addition to the Individual Mandate page? I do not understand the reason if you are doing so. What is presented there is incorrect. There is a third individual mandate, and it is simply a matter of understanding plain English. The way individual mandate is defined in the article, it is clear that "An act for the relief of sick and disabled seamen”, signed into law by President John Adams in 1798is an individual mandate. Why should this point not be stated in the Individual Mandate page? The quote from the act just makes things clear that the act has an individual mandate. If you did not take it out, I think the my addition should be reinserted to make things correct and not slanted. (cdftras)Cdfrtas (talk) 20:10, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help previously with this issue. Alas it has returned. If you have time, would you please take another look at it?TVC 15 (talk) 19:02, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Elizabeth Warren

Why do you keep erasing her birth name? Virtually every bio article has it right in the first sentence. Edit Nazi's like you have ruined Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.241.64.106 (talk) 23:30, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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H-index

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Speedy deletion nomination of Mark Midei

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Thanks for your work

...on the "Death Panel" article. I'm doing the same thing on the Class warfare article. --XB70Valyrie (talk) 23:27, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Jesanj, your input on a dispute resolution would be helpful

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Please comment on an RfC about Living members of deposed royal families and the titles attributed to them on WP

Hello - I have opened an RfC about suggested guidelines in the Manual of Style for articles about living members of families whose ancestors were deposed as monarchs of various countries and the titles and "styles" attributed to these living people, at the moment often in a misleading and inaccurate way in my opinion. Please join in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies "Use of royal "Titles and styles" and honorific prefixes in articles and templates referring to pretenders to abolished royal titles and their families"[19]Regards,Smeat75 (talk) 05:40, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Using other persons userpage

Hi, I realise its quite old, but i saw this and it seemed a bit... messed up. Are you allowed to put content on other peoples user pages? Even if they're not apparently active, it still seems kind of wrong and against wiki user page guidelines. Did you have permission from docjames? Benboy00 (talk) 16:46, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Gun control

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Speedy deletion nomination of National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization

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RfC United States same-sex marriage map

I opened up an RfC for the U.S. same-sex marriage map due to the complicated situation of Kansas: RfC: How should we color Kansas? Prcc27 (talk) 12:36, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please join the discussion on Talk:Glengarry Glen Ross (film)

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Response so far in the RfC has been mixed. Comments welcome! Xanthis (talk) 13:29, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

November 2015

Speedy deletion nomination of Darrell Kirch

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