Wikipedia:Closure requests

The Requests for closure noticeboard is for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion on Wikipedia. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus remains unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications, such as when the discussion is about creating, abolishing or changing a policy or guideline.

Many discussions do not need formal closure and do not need to be listed here.

Many discussions result in a reasonably clear consensus, so if the consensus is clear, any editor—even one involved in the discussion—may close the discussion. The default length of a formal request for comment is 30 days (opened on or before 20 May 2024); if consensus becomes clear before that and discussion has slowed, then it may be closed early. However, editors usually wait at least a week after a discussion opens, unless the outcome is very obvious, so that there is enough time for a full discussion.

On average, it takes two or three weeks after the discussion ended to get a formal closure from an uninvolved editor. When the consensus is reasonably clear, participants may be best served by not requesting and then waiting weeks for a formal closure.

If consensus is unclear, then post a neutral request here for assistance.

Please ensure that your request for closure is brief and neutrally worded, and also ensure that a link to the discussion itself is included as well. Be prepared to wait for someone to act on your request and do not use this board to continue the discussion in question.

If you disagree with a particular closure, do not dispute it here. Please discuss matters on the closer's talk page instead, and, if necessary, request a closure review at the administrators' noticeboard. Include links to the closure being challenged and the discussion on the closer's talk page, and also include a policy-based rationale supporting your request for the closure to be overturned.

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Closure review archive for previous closure reviews.

Any uninvolved editor may close most discussions, so long as they are prepared to discuss and justify their closing rationale.

Because requests for closure made here are often those that are the most contentious, closing these discussions can be a significant responsibility. Closers should be familiar with all policies and guidelines that could apply to the given discussion. All closers should be prepared to fully discuss the closure rationale with any editors who have questions about the closure or the underlying policies, and to provide advice about where to discuss any remaining concerns that those editors may have.

A request for comment discussed how to appeal closures and whether an administrator can summarily overturn a non-administrator's closure. The consensus was that closures should not be reverted solely because the closer was not an administrator. However, special considerations apply for articles for deletion and move discussions—see Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions and Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for details.

To reduce editing conflicts and an undesirable duplication of effort when closing a discussion listed on this page, please append {{Closing}} or {{Doing}} to the discussion's entry here. When finished, replace it with {{Close}} or {{Done}} and an optional note which allows archiving of the completed request.

Requests for closure

See also: Wikipedia:Requested moves § Elapsed listings, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old, Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Awaiting closure, Wikipedia:Templates for discussion § Old discussions, and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion § Old business

RfCs

Talk:Jimi Hendrix posthumous discography#RfC: Should the first section of albums be categorized as "studio" or "compilation albums"?

(Initiated 1880 days ago on 27 April 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Jimi Hendrix posthumous discography#RfC: Should the first section of albums be categorized as "studio" or "compilation albums"?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Electric smoking system#IQOS_content and Talk:Electric smoking system#Re-RfC on IQOS content

(Initiated 1851 days ago on 26 May 2019) Would an uninvolved editor please assess the consensus? Thanks, QuackGuru (talk) 03:36, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:People's Mujahedin of Iran#RfC about the MEK targeting civilians in the lede

(Initiated 1851 days ago on 26 May 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:People's Mujahedin of Iran#RfC about the MEK targeting civilians in the lede? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:08, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

• I'd like to ask an experienced admin take care of it. --Mhhossein ^talk 05:45, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC - CoinDesk as a source

(Initiated 1848 days ago on 29 May 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC - CoinDesk as a source? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 19:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal for a new file naming criteria: harmonize extension name

(Initiated 1848 days ago on 29 May 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal for a new file naming criteria: harmonize extension name? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:08, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Talk:RT (TV network)#RfC: Propaganda

(Initiated 1847 days ago on 30 May 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:RT (TV network)#RfC: Propaganda? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:08, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Hafte Tir bombing#RFC about making more natural lead

(Initiated 1843 days ago on 3 June 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Hafte Tir bombing#RFC about making more natural lead? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:38, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Virginia Beach shooting#RfC: Should the page include the victims' names?

(Initiated 1841 days ago on 5 June 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess this RfC? There have been no fresh !votes for quite some time. Thanks. WWGB (talk) 01:28, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Indigenous intellectual property#RfC: Should the 'A history of claims and declarations...' section be an exhaustive list?

(Initiated 1841 days ago on 5 June 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Indigenous intellectual property#RfC: Should the 'A history of claims and declarations...' section be an exhaustive list?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:38, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Electric smoking system#First sentence

(Initiated 1840 days ago on 6 June 2019) Would an uninvolved editor please assess the consensus? Thanks, QuackGuru (talk) 03:36, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Words to watch#Racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic

(Initiated 1838 days ago on 8 June 2019) Near-unanimous result, so an easy close. It's a guideline wording change, so best closed by an admin. — AReaderOutThataway ^t/_c 15:40, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Bengal famine of 1943#RfC: Material from the 2019 Geophysical Research Letters study

(Initiated 1835 days ago on 11 June 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Bengal famine of 1943#RfC: Material from the 2019 Geophysical Research Letters study? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:38, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Rheumatoid arthritis#Lead image

(Initiated 1834 days ago on 12 June 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Rheumatoid arthritis#Lead image? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:38, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Header text

(Initiated 1834 days ago on 12 June 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Header text? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:38, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:African Americans#Should this article have a lead image?

(Initiated 1826 days ago on 20 June 2019) Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 17:58, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:EOKA#Death toll

(Initiated 1826 days ago on 20 June 2019) There is a RfC at this section. Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus? Thanks, Cinadon36 08:22, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Ronald Reagan#RfC (Request for Comment) on drug trafficking aspect of Iran-Contra

(Initiated 1826 days ago on 20 June 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Ronald Reagan#RfC (Request for Comment) on drug trafficking aspect of Iran-Contra? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:19, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Bill Shorten#RfC: Rape allegation

(Initiated 1825 days ago on 21 June 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Bill Shorten? Thank you!--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 19:14, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Electric smoking system#Pyrolyse

(Initiated 1825 days ago on 21 June 2019) Would an uninvolved editor please assess the consensus? Thanks, QuackGuru (talk) 03:43, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: The American Conservative

(Initiated 1818 days ago on 28 June 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: The American Conservative? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 22:57, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Antifa (United States)/Archive 12#RfC: antifa and terrorism

(Initiated 1813 days ago on 3 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Antifa (United States)/Archive 12#RfC: antifa and terrorism? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis#RfC on "himself"

(Initiated 1812 days ago on 4 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis#RfC on "himself"? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Community response to the Wikimedia Foundation's ban of Fram/Archive 4#RfC: Should we use Breitbart News as a source regarding the Wikimedia Foundation's ban of Fram?

(Initiated 1811 days ago on 5 July 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Community response to the Wikimedia Foundation's ban of Fram/Archive 4#RfC: Should we use Breitbart News as a source regarding the Wikimedia Foundation's ban of Fram? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 10:51, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Ben Shapiro#RfC: Criticism of Shapiro's assertions about the uniqueness of science in the West

(Initiated 1811 days ago on 5 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Ben Shapiro#RfC: Criticism of Shapiro's assertions about the uniqueness of science in the West? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party#Jeremy Corbyn vs. the Labour Party

(Initiated 1810 days ago on 6 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party#Jeremy Corbyn vs. the Labour Party? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Add 'create an article' option in the interface

(Initiated 1809 days ago on 7 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Add 'create an article' option in the interface? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Gatestone Institute#RfC: Description as conservative and anti-Muslim in the first line of the lede

(Initiated 1808 days ago on 8 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Gatestone Institute#RfC: Description as conservative and anti-Muslim in the first line of the lede? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Christchurch mosque shootings#RfC about info box accused = Brenton Harrison Tarrant

(Initiated 1806 days ago on 10 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Christchurch mosque shootings#RfC about info box accused = Brenton Harrison Tarrant? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Constantinople#RFC on whether to change the end date of this article to 1930

(Initiated 1804 days ago on 12 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Constantinople#RFC on whether to change the end date of this article to 1930? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Taki's Magazine

(Initiated 1803 days ago on 13 July 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Taki's Magazine? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 17:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RFC: Moratorium on "general reliability" RFCs

(Initiated 1802 days ago on 14 July 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RFC: Moratorium on "general reliability" RFCs? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 17:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:SNC-Lavalin affair#RfC about the first sentence

(Initiated 1799 days ago on 17 July 2019) When the time comes, would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:SNC-Lavalin affair#RfC about the first sentence? Thanks--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 19:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

• Note to closer - This RfC should be allowed to run its course. I have just posted it here now so there is some advance notice. The topic of the RfC was originally discussed in this first RfC which was closed without consensus being reached. For much of the time it was open, editing on this article had been before ArbCom. Following that, a second RfC was opened and then closed early so other options could also be considered. A straw poll had occurred at the same time. This third RfC began to consider all options shortly thereafter.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 19:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

This RfC is ready to be closed. Safrolic (talk) 00:29, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 153#RFC: Formalize Standing of Portal Guidelines as a Guideline (18 July 2019)

(Initiated 1798 days ago on 18 July 2019) Would an uninvolved editor please asses the consensus at this CENT-advertised RfC on the status of the portal guideline? Wug·a·po·des​ 03:05, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Michael Jackson#RfC: Is Tarraborrelli a good source for this article?

(Initiated 1797 days ago on 19 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Michael Jackson#RfC: Is Tarraborrelli a good source for this article?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Next United Kingdom general election#RfC about the infobox

(Initiated 1797 days ago on 19 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Next United Kingdom general election#RfC about the infobox? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Administrators#Resysop criteria: RfC on principles

(Initiated 1796 days ago on 20 July 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Administrators#Resysop criteria: RfC on principles? Thank you. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:09, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party#RfC on inclusion of claims in Panorama documentary and 64 peers' letter (advertisement)

(Initiated 1796 days ago on 20 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party#RfC on inclusion of claims in Panorama documentary and 64 peers' letter (advertisement)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Ilhan Omar#Juan Guaido RfC

(Initiated 1795 days ago on 21 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Ilhan Omar#Juan Guaido RfC? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Visual arts#Naming conventions for public statues

(Initiated 1795 days ago on 21 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Visual arts#Naming conventions for public statues? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Alt-right#RfC about the opening sentence

(Initiated 1793 days ago on 23 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Alt-right#RfC about the opening sentence? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Abby Martin#RfC: 9/11 Truther

(Initiated 1793 days ago on 23 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Abby Martin#RfC: 9/11 Truther? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Talk:2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests#RfC:Change title

(Initiated 1788 days ago on 28 July 2019) Would an uninvolved eitor please assess the consensus on this RfC on the wording of a section of the article., even that section of the article had been moved to sub-article. Matthew hk (talk) 23:49, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Please review this discussion. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:34, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

this was closed by another ed. DGG ( talk ) 05:21, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Talk:People's Mujahedin of Iran#RfC about including the MEK's current principles

(Initiated 1784 days ago on 1 August 2019) Would an uninvolved editor please assess the consensus on this RfC? Legobot keeps removing RfC ID, so was adviced to bring it here for closure. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 07:37, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Talk:2019 El Paso shooting#Include or exclude victim names

(Initiated 1780 days ago on 4 August 2019) Would an uninvolved closer please assess the consensus here. See also the similar discussion at Talk:2019 Dayton shooting#Include or exclude victim names. TompaDompa (talk) 22:01, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Talk:2019 Dayton shooting#Include or exclude victim names

(Initiated 1780 days ago on 4 August 2019) Would an uninvolved closer please assess the consensus here. See also the similar discussion at Talk:2019 El Paso shooting#Include or exclude victim names. TompaDompa (talk) 22:01, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#RfC: Should we provide attribution when using "TERF" or "trans-exclusionary radical feminist" when describing BLP subjects?

(Initiated 1780 days ago on 5 August 2019) Close it, please. Halo Jerk1 (talk) 10:38, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Electric smoking system#Brands

(Initiated 1779 days ago on 6 August 2019) Would an uninvolved editor please assess the consensus? This RfC should be allowed to run its course. Thanks, QuackGuru (talk) 03:36, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Article titles#RfC about articles on three digit numbers

(Initiated 1778 days ago on 7 August 2019) Seeking an experienced and uninvolved editor to assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Article titles#RfC about articles on three digit numbers. Thanks in advance! — JFG ^talk 23:31, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Deletion discussions

XFD backlog

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TfD	0	0	1	0	1
MfD	0	0	0	0	0
FfD	0	0	0	0	0
RfD	0	0	9	17	26
AfD	0	0	0	0	0

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 20#What wp is not

(Initiated 1808 days ago on 8 July 2019) Would an experienced administrator please close this discussion? Most WP:RFD regulars, including administrators, have already participated in this discussion, leaving few options for potential closers. Steel1943 (talk) 15:19, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 22#Force of law

(Initiated 1803 days ago on 13 July 2019) Would an experienced administrator please close this discussion? Most WP:RFD regulars, including administrators, have already participated in this discussion, leaving few options for potential closers. Steel1943 (talk) 15:21, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Other types of closing requests

Talk:2019 World Rally Championship

(Initiated 1881 days ago on 26 April 2019) Would an experienced editor or administrator please review this discussion? An older discussion on the subject exists and might need to be considered as well.Tvx1 11:23, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1010#Disruptive editing on Taiwan regarding English variety

(Initiated 1867 days ago on 10 May 2019) – Would an administrator assess this issue and take necessary action please. Ythlev (talk) 12:20, 21 May 2019 (UTC) @DannyS712: Stale discussions are exactly the ones that need admin involvement according to this page. Is no action to be taken against disruptive editing? Ythlev (talk) 15:26, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Talk:2019 Arizona Hotshots season#Merger proposals

(Initiated 1854 days ago on 23 May 2019) Could someone close this discussion if there is a clear consensus? If the decision is made to merge the articles I can do so myself. Thanks! Eagles 24/7 (C) 21:12, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 267#Strange Fox News story about AOC and climate change

(Initiated 1849 days ago on 28 May 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 267#Strange Fox News story about AOC and climate change? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 03:58, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Talk:2019 Brecon and Radnorshire recall petition#Merge?

(Initiated 1825 days ago on 21 June 2019) A merge request on the borderline of consensus which involved two pairs of articles. A zealous editor went ahead and merged one pair but not the other, leading to an inconstancy. The second pair either needs to be merged or the first merge should be undone. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 11:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk:911#Merge 9/11 (disambiguation)

(Initiated 1801 days ago on 15 July 2019) Seems to have run its course, but not listed where administrators can see to close. Hyperbolick (talk) 03:06, 2 September 2019 (UTC)