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Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.
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User:174.233.7.76 reported by User:Kingofaces43 (Result: Declined)
Page: Emerald ash borer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 174.233.7.76 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), 51.15.58.148 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [1]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [4]
Comments:
Not a 3RR case, but an odd case that might best get some initial admin input here on how to continued edit warring and other behavior issues.
This focuses around an addition of WP:SYNTH where an IP (174.233.7.76) added content from a source that doesn't discuss the article species at all that I removed. The IP restored it along with peppering the very old talk page conversations with comments knowing what edit warring is and other vindictive comments such as content is king not you
[5] (a play on my username) and a few others[6][7] This IP appeared to have a bit of a vendentta after that one initial revert to the point I question if it is a sock. The only controversial topic I was involved in some time ago was GMOs that went to ArbCom, but I can't immediately think of anything from any of those sanctioned, etc. editors (especially after all this time of relative quiet) that would link to the Cincinnati, Ohio based IP to warrant a checkuser.
After trying to remind them that original research isn't allowed, I opened a talk page section, but no one has responded there. Instead, another IP (51.15.58.148) reverted me with an edit summary Undid Kingofaces43' latest edit warring attempt to treat this article as his personal kingdom by deleting sourced relevant content. There is apparently a long history of his edit warring in Talk. He should be blocked from this article.
[8] Different location on the IP, but the language being used seems similar.
In short, we have multiple IPs/user(s) edit warring that appear highly vindictive and knowledgeable of some Wikipedia lingo that also refuse to use the talk page to discuss content or remain civil. This doesn't seem like typical behavior of a new user who doesn't have an account. I'm not sure if semi-protection an appropriate next step with these behaviors, so I'd like to know what admins think. It could just be a new user lashing out (not unheard of, but usually not to this degree), but it's definitely odd and not improving. Kingofaces43 (talk) 19:35, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
- Declined – There isn't a 3RR violation here. The rest of the arguments aren't easy to follow. For the underlying dispute I suggest opening an WP:RFC or trying WP:DRN. If this succeeded in being approved as a GA there could be some past article watchers who might be willing to join the discussion. For one example, consider asking User:Chiswick Chap who has been active recently. EdJohnston (talk) 23:25, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
User:Fileheist reported by User:Ritchie333 (Result: EC protected)
Page: Trafalgar Square (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Fileheist (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [9]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [14]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [15]
Comments: Also editing as Tfofficial (talk · contribs). The article has been an attacked by a whole bunch of new users recently, and I think consulting a checkuser might be worthwhile. As a principal editor of this article, I am WP:INVOLVED. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:06, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Result: Extended confirmed protection for three months. There is discussion on Reddit about trying to insert the 'Love Lion' meme on Wikipedia. This has been going on since June. A variety of new users have been attempting this, so semiprotection would not be enough. EdJohnston (talk) 14:51, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
User:Kyle Lodge reported by User:Jd22292 (Result: Warned)
- Page
- Linkin Park (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Kyle Lodge (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 10:31, 31 July 2017 (UTC) ""
- 05:17, 31 July 2017 (UTC) ""
- 00:58, 31 July 2017 (UTC) ""
- 21:02, 30 July 2017 (UTC) ""
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- 12:55, 31 July 2017 (UTC) "/* July 2017 */"
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- 15:31, 31 July 2017 (UTC) "/* Edit warring */ new section"
- Comments:
User refuses to comply with the documentation of the infobox nor has replied to my attempt at discussion. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 15:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Warned – This is a new user (23 June) who has not edited since getting a 3RR warning. If this continues, report again.. EdJohnston (talk) 23:46, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
User:Joohnny braavoo1 reported by User:LouisAragon (Result: Indef)
Page: List of Turkic dynasties and countries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Joohnny braavoo1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [16]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 01:22, 30 July 2017
- 06:10, 30 July 2017
- 03:20, 31 July 2017
- 14:59, 31 July 2017
- 16:23, 31 July 2017
- 18:25, 31 July 2017
- 19:05, 31 July 2017
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [17]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [18]
Comments:
"Joohnny braavoo1" was blocked on 8 June 2017 for edit warring on the very same page. Now he's at it again. Apart from ignoring WP:BRD and WP:WAR, he also resorts to WP:BATTLE ([19]) and WP:PERSONAL for whatever reason; "(...) because you are both iranians nationalists anyway". Looking at the overal editorial pattern and diffs, I'd say this looks like a pretty decent WP:NOTHERE *slash* WP:COMPETENCE case. Evidently, this is not just a problem of having a less than native proficiency in English. - LouisAragon (talk) 21:44, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, and just in case, this clearly doesn't classify as "a talk page section" where the user discusses his "concerns" and tries to reach a "consensus". - LouisAragon (talk) 19:48, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- This is hardly the first time Joohnny braavoo1 has had issues with other editors(personal attacks[20][21], comments regarding other editor's perceived ethnicity[22]). I think Joohnny braavoo1 has been given enough rope. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:47, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Blocked indefinitely – Ethnic warring to promote everything Turkiic + WP:Competence is required. EdJohnston (talk) 00:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
User:Baldassn reported by User:Sagecandor (Result: )
- Page
- Michael R. Caputo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Baldassn (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 19:36, 31 July 2017 (UTC) "Undid revision 793279794 by Sagecandor (talk)"
- 15:56, 31 July 2017 (UTC) "removed incorrect information that was not cited, added correct sourced info"
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
Using many sock accounts to violate WP:Disruptive editing. Accounts started on exact same day: Baldassn account started 3 February 2017 [23]. DwyerSP account started 3 February 2017 [24]. Both accounts have edited exact same pages Michael R. Caputo [25] [26] and Rigsby sisters [27] [28].
Please block both Baldassn and DwyerSP for WP:Disruptive editing by tag-teaming with sock accounts. Sagecandor (talk) 19:53, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: The likely sockmaster account has now revealed their main sock account was used to make previously undisclosed paid edits with a now declared conflict of interest see [29] and [30]. This is now socking to make paid edits with a conflict of interest. None of the other likely sock accounts have made any declaration. No declarations have been made by any of the accounts on any article talk pages. None of the accounts have self-reverted any of their sock conflict of interest edits. Sagecandor (talk) 16:37, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
User:Sagecandor reported by User:Baldassn (Result: )
Page: Michael R. Caputo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Sagecandor (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- [diff] 19:22, 31 July 2017 Sagecandor (talk | contribs) . . (19,613 bytes) (-1,394) . . (restore sourced info per multiple citations)
- [diff] 19:35, 31 July 2017 Sagecandor (talk | contribs) . . (19,613 bytes) (-1,840) . . (edits appear to have removed multiple citations to reliable sources)
- [diff] 05:18, 29 July 2017 Sagecandor (talk | contribs) . . (19,770 bytes) (-445) . . (removed unreliable source, exile.ru, per WP:RSN)
- [diff] 18:51, 28 July 2017 Sagecandor (talk | contribs) . . (19,769 bytes) (+99) . . (Unreliable source?)
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sagecandor&oldid=793282779
Comments:
Comment: Please see where I myself have taken the initiative and reported this to the WP:Reliable sources noticeboard, where "Exile.ru" is deemed to be an unreliable source: (please see report here). I acknowledge that I've made two (2) edits of restorations, and I pledge to make zero (0) more reverts on that page while we hopefully get this matter resolved: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Baldassn. Please note that accounts User:Baldassn and User:DwyerSP and User:Musicmaniac1107 are using many sock accounts to violate WP:Disruptive editing. Accounts started on exact same day: Baldassn account started 3 February 2017 [31]. DwyerSP account started 3 February 2017 [32]. Both accounts have edited exact same pages Michael R. Caputo [33] [34] and Rigsby sisters [35] [36]. I myself will stop reverting these sock accounts while Wikipedia looks into this. But I hope using multiple accounts in order to sock at the same exact pages of Michael R. Caputo and Rigsby sisters, will be dealt with soon. Sagecandor (talk) 20:42, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note also I've made zero edits to the article, since the "Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page" cited by the complainant. Sagecandor (talk) 21:14, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Update: Page was protected, by admin Oshwah, with DIFF. Sagecandor (talk) 18:26, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Note: The likely sockmaster account has now revealed their main sock account was used to make previously undisclosed paid edits with a now declared conflict of interest see [37] and [38]. This is now socking to make paid edits with a conflict of interest. None of the other likely sock accounts have made any declaration. No declarations have been made by any of the accounts on any article talk pages. None of the accounts have self-reverted any of their sock conflict of interest edits. Sagecandor (talk) 17:22, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
User:2600:100F:B122:4918:94DD:B91E:BB84:4FA2 reported by User:Wani (Result: Semi-protected)
Page: Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 2600:100F:B122:4918:94DD:B91E:BB84:4FA2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [39]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [48]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [49]
Comments:
A user within this IP range has been re-adding the same unsourced content for over two weeks now. Since they are a mobile user and have a dynamic IP address, warnings against disruptive editing and edit warring have not been effective. I would like to discuss with the IP about their edits, but communicating with them is extremely difficult because of these circumstances. Wani (talk) 15:25, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: Also, to be fair, the IP has included references within their more recent edit summaries, such as here: [50]. That said, they've still failed to include inline citations after repeated instruction. The problem I personally have with their additions is the use of the GameSpot article as a direct confirmation for the exclusion of playable X-Men characters; however, the interview only somewhat implies their exclusion. The producer even states, "The X-Men stuff, [I] can't talk to." The IP then supplements their edits with their own original research, saying that this extends to other Fox-owned properties, such as the Fantastic Four (even though those characters aren't even mentioned in the source). Again, I'd like to discuss with them about their edits, but their constantly changing IP address doesn't allow me do so (at least to my knowledge), and their constant reverts have become disruptive. Wani (talk) 18:55, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Clear violation. Disruptive editing. It is also vandalism. Sagecandor (talk) 19:38, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Page protected by Oshwah. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 15:12, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
User:181.208.243.242 reported by User:Elisfkc (Result: Blocked one month)
Page: Innoventions (Epcot) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 181.208.243.242 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: 793417371
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Warning on User Talk Page
Comments:
The claim that the user keeps adding that Innoventions (the subject) will be closing in 2018 to make way for a Tron simulator. They are adding this without sources. This "closing" was not ever rumored, let alone announced/confirmed. The user has been blocked 3 times before, just coming off their last block today. There were other reverts that both of us did, but that pertained to something else (so I did not count that). Elisfkc (talk) 16:51, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: The user is also making the same claim on Tron (franchise), as well as other random claims on Journey into Imagination with Figment and CommuniCore. Elisfkc (talk) 16:55, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Blocked one month for vandalism, by admin Alexf. Sagecandor (talk) 19:37, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
202.156.181.76 reported by User:Zhanzhao (Result: Blocked)
Page: Yusof Ishak (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 202.156.181.76 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [51]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- [52] Claims Google Translate is proof for translation of a person's name
- [53] Claims mosque officials made a mistake in translating the subject's name
- [54] Disregards request for reliable source of change
- [55] Disregards request for talk discussion plus unsourced claim.
- [56] Continues to disregard talkpage request and reverts with, I quote No questions asked.
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [57] and 2 prior warning against disruption by another editor on the same topic.
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [58] as well as attempts to direct him/her there via the edit summary as that seems to the the only thing he/she is paying attention to.
Comments:
Comment Per the editor's block log and removal of his block notification on another edit warring incident, its clear he/she knows waht is edit warring and just refusing to engage. Zhanzhao (talk) 23:46, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 48 hours CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 15:10, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
User:171.78.169.174 reported by User:Jytdog (Result: Semi-protected)
Page: Christian terrorism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 171.78.169.174 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: diff, before they started
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- diff 1st removal 23:10, 31 July 2017
- diff 2nd removal 00:35, 1 August 2017
- diff 3rd removal 11:39, 1 August 2017
- diff 4th removal 15:08, 1 August 2017
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: link
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Christian_terrorism#Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
Comments:
As noted at the talk page, it is an emotional topic and this subtopic within that, is especially nuanced and difficult and has been discussed to death. Jytdog (talk) 01:56, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- Page protected CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 14:59, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
User:Md iet reported by User:HyperGaruda (Result: Blocked)
Page: Kaaba (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Md iet (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: Special:Permalink/790662175
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- [59] Wholesale revert
- [60] Wholesale revert
- [61] Wholesale revert
- [62] Adding back in a partial revert in the same section
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [63]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [64]
Comments:
- This editor with 8 years of "experience" and multiple blocks ought to know better than reverting multiple users to keep in his/her own addition, without even trying to start a discussion. --HyperGaruda (talk) 08:08, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 72 hours CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 14:56, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
User:Truth and honour reported by User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi (Result: Blocked)
- Page
- Europe Business Assembly (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User being reported
- Truth and honour (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Previous version reverted to
- Diffs of the user's reverts
- 12:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC) ""
- 11:40, 2 August 2017 (UTC) "Expanded information about the Europe Business Assembly"
- 08:46, 2 August 2017 (UTC) "additional reference"
- Consecutive edits made from 08:39, 2 August 2017 (UTC) to 08:40, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- 08:39, 2 August 2017 (UTC) "added reference"
- 08:40, 2 August 2017 (UTC) "added content"
- 06:13, 2 August 2017 (UTC) "added a reference from the company house"
- 12:52, 1 August 2017 (UTC) "text change and added facts"
- 11:42, 1 August 2017 (UTC) "added content and references"
- Consecutive edits made from 07:21, 1 August 2017 (UTC) to 07:23, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- Consecutive edits made from 06:48, 1 August 2017 (UTC) to 07:08, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- 06:48, 1 August 2017 (UTC) "added content"
- 06:55, 1 August 2017 (UTC) "added reference and content"
- 07:05, 1 August 2017 (UTC) "added more content"
- 07:08, 1 August 2017 (UTC) "added content"
- Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
- See also previous 3RR Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/3RRArchive347#User:93.76.208.161_reported_by_User:GreenC_.28Result:_Protected.29 -- GreenC 13:02, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
- Comments:
Repeated insertion of various spam / cruft for the purposes of whitewasing the company by a CoI editor, against many editors- Richard Keatinge, Bonadea, Philafrenzy, GreenC, etc. Many warnings- and / or advice on their own talk. There is a lack of communication indicating perhaps we have moved into WP:IDHT territory, and in any case is tying up the time and energey of too many editors, including two admins who have both laid on pending changes and protection, to no avail. — fortunavelut luna 12:08, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 24 hours CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 14:45, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
User:Momoji789 reported by User:85.220.68.38 (Result: )
Page: The Producers (TV series) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Momoji789 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [67] Another user has provided clear evidence from dramas' official page but the user in question willfully ignores the evidence and insists that one should follow the synopsis or standing position in the poster to determine the cast's orders instead. [68]
Comments:
User:Sagecandor reported by User:Baldassn (Result: )
Page: Rigsby Sisters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Sagecandor (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [69]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Comments:
{{Sagecandor is a persistent disruptive editor. Sagecandor has accused me of being a sock account which is plainly false. Sagecandor has removed all of my edits from the wikipedia page Rigsby Sisters and removed reputable sources (such as U.S. Supreme Court cases/documents) from the page. Sagecandor replaces this accurate information with unsourced information that fits a certain narritive. Sagecandor has disruptively edited multiple pages I have tried to edit. Baldassn (talk) 20:27, 2 August 2017 (UTC)}}