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I want to buy a t shirt from wikipedia. Is that possible?
I want to buy a t shirt from wikipedia. Is that possible?
[[User:Jonlebe|Jonlebe]] 04:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
[[User:Jonlebe|Jonlebe]] 04:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


==my compliments==
may i compliment you on what a great job you do on getting the worst most rudest volunteers that instead of helping they just spend there time insulting people they dont even know!, the person that created this site might consider being more hands on because if i were that person i would be ashamed on what a reck this is turning out to be. You might want to consider volunteer clean up because this site needs people that dont involve their personal life and personal problems such as racism and gossip with professional business i am well aware nobody gets paid to do this job but like they say if your going to do something do it right or dont do it at all[[User:Bacanaleranica|Bacanaleranica]] 05:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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    February 24

    Blanking your own talk pages

    The user DX DX DX DX DX recently blanked his own talk page that contained numerous warnings for vandalism. Is this allowed? If not, what is the course of action to take against this user? --Eastlygod 00:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It's allowed. WP:VANDAL used to have a note about it not being so, but that was removed a good while ago. Warnings are supposed to warn the user; removing them is just an acknowledgment that they're seen them. And it stops the trolls who place warnings on innocent user's talk pages and demand that they not remove them. If giving the user a new warning, just go up to the next level as usual. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 00:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, and the warnings can be discovered in the page history. You can always report vandals to WP:AIV if they break the rule after the final warning. Xiner (talk, email) 00:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I fondly remember WP:Vandal mentioning that it's "frowned upon". See the heading Talk page vandalism. —XhantarTalk 01:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I really think that, unless the warning is a mistake, it should be kept. Otherwise, how will we know when to warn them. This rule needs to be changed. Maybe I should try to change it. Though should I just put it as a comment in a talk page or create a new "Proposed policy" page? Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 02:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    It can be frustrating, but vandalism is one of the easier situations because there's WP:AIV. If you step back and think about it, it really doesn't matter what they do to their talk pages unless they're using it as a soapbox or personal attack page, in which case there's a lot of grey areas and you could easily start sinking to their levels. It is indeed "frowned upon" to blank one's talk page, but discourtesy is not a crime, just like in the real world. Xiner (talk, email) 02:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for your replies. I'll keep an eye on it, if he continues to vandalise, I will watch the warning given --Eastlygod 03:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    using someone else's images

    I just spent a couple hours wading thru all the stuff about images & licensing but havent' found an answer.

    I found some images that would be good illustrations for my article and I feel there's a good chance the artist/copyright owner would allow them to be licensed. But how do I go about asking him to do so?

    All kinds of references to GDFL but how is it applied to an image? "Included in the text..." doesn't seem to apply.

    KenGr8white 01:06, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Show him the license and ask him if he'd agree to, basically, release the images for use by anyone, including profit-seekers, so long as they attribute it to him, or if included in an article, to Wikipedia. Xiner (talk, email) 01:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Right yes. Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission basically says what Xiner said, in a copy-and-paste-link kind of way. —XhantarTalk 01:24, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    CSS hover

    I want to use CSS hover effects in a navigation template I'm working on. Is there any way to define a CSS class on a wikipedia page? Is there a template or something that would directly let me do hover effects (I'm specifically looking for a change of background color on hover) --frothT 01:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You might want to ask at the Technical Village Pump - the people there are a lot more code-savvy and probably would be able to help you more than most of us here. Off-hand, though, I think there might be a way to do it. Hersfold (talk/work) 01:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Confused by hierarchy of authority of policy

    What is the hierarchy of rules and regulations that govern procedure on Wikipedia? For example, Wikipedia:Vandalism; who backs that policy exactly? Just the users? The Foundation? Jimbo? Does the Foundation, the body that owns Wikipedia, explicitly forbid vandalism anywhere?

    I'm trying to understand the rules in the same way that: a) British Law is really important b) The school's rules as determined by the head master and school board and whoever else is involved is somewhat important (e.g. no mobile phones allowed - is that legally enforceable?) c) The teachers preference that we don't smile during class is less important --Seans Potato Business 01:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia policy and guidelines exists by virtue of summarizing the current practices (with a few exceptions) and common sense. If all else fails, ignore all rules.Circeus 01:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Jimmy Wales, through the Wikimedia Foundation, owns the Wikipedia servers. His word is law and he has the ability to do whatever he wants on Wikipedia. He does exercise this power- see Brian Peppers. For the most part he lets the Foundation and WP:ARBCOM do a lot of his dirty work. --frothT 01:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Policies on Wikipedia are generally determined by the consensus of the community. For the most part, Jimbo Wales (and the Foundation), whilst he has the final say on all issues, usually does not determine or formulate specific policies. -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 02:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    MediaWiki failing to subst a sig?

    I made a post signing it as normally: [1] but for some reason it looks like MediaWiki failed to expand out my signature and in stead placed four tildes in the wiki markup. Then on the next edit to the page, it picks out the tildes and signs someone else's name to my comment. What gives? —Dgiest c 01:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The only thing I found was an HTML <pre> beginning with no end, this causes the text to be displayed as it is laid out in the file.
    like this ~~~~
    The next editor must have removed it.Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 02:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah yes, that would do it. I actually noticed the pre after saving my edit but someone beat me to fixing it and I failed to notice it had caught my signature. —Dgiest c 03:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Categories

    How can I force Category:Multiracial Wikipedians to be listed on the first page of its parent category? Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 03:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Nvm, I figured out a hack; just give a sortkey of a space character. Xiner (talk, email) 04:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]

    How do I get a Copyright?

    I am getting very frustrated that I can't add pictures that I think are good to anime and manga articles.

    Please be more specific in your question. All original works are automatically under copyright, held by the author. —Centrxtalk • 04:06, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    If you're saying what I think you're saying, plesae read Wikipedia:Image_use_policy, Wikipedia:Fair use, Wikipedia:Fair use criteria and Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. Yeah, that's quite a bit. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 04:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You should also be aware that the rules are likely to be enforced much more strictly in future: this probably means no copyright pictures for things like cartoon characters, celebrities, book or album covers at all. The rules haven't changed, but the enforcement has been rather relaxed. Wikipedia's aim is to produce an encyclopedia of free content, and using copyright pictures doesn't match that aim. 08:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

    Detail box at bottom

    How do you edit the info boxes at the bottom of an article. I am talking about the ones at the bottm of a page for a musical artist that details band members and official album releases etc... i hope this makes sence. thanks.

    Some of them have an edit button in the corner. If it doesn't, then try editing the page and look for a template name in double curly brackets (e.g. {{The Bluetones}}), and type template:templatename (e.g. template:The Bluetones) in the search box to get to the template page (e.g. template:The Bluetones). PrimeHunter 12:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    A question for the reference desk

    can i get some details about customer relationship management intiatives of creditcard agency

    Possibly, if you ask at the reference desk. --Teratornis 23:15, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Reference to Forums

    I would like to use the wording (or something similar): This phenomenon is reported by thousands worldwide in discussion forums that can be found by anyone using the normal search engines like Google or Yahoo. Would this be proper, or is there better wording that I could use that doesn't indicate that I am using "forums" as a type of reference. The idea behind this wording is for those that have FURTHER interest, that they can then go to other places for information. My intent is that I am NOT using it as reference material. Could I then use a "link" in the statemnent like: There are discussion forums on paranormal here. --Doug talk 13:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You might bring this up at Wikipedia talk:Attribution. I'd say avoid this, and instead look for a source that says something similar. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:51, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Forums are not an acceptable source for Wikipedia NOR an acceptable external link. Your form of words could be seen as a way to try to get around that by inviting people to look in forums themselves. You really need to find what is considered a reliable source or acceptable link; for example a newspaper writing about forums could be quoted. Notinasnaid 19:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    If you participate much in forums, you've probably grown tired of those lame student survey questions that roll through unceasingly like the seasons. Instead of merely flaming the lame surveys, enjoyable as that may be, consider trying to enlist one of those students to conduct and publish a study about whatever sort of online phenomenon you wish to mention. With luck you might end up with a peer-reviewed study you can cite. For best results, you might need to get in touch with the professor who sent out the sacrificial survey lambs, and see about getting him/her to perform an actually useful investigation for a change. See WP:ACST for some links to studies about Wikipedia; from there you might find your way to some studies about discussion forums (should we say "fora"?). --Teratornis 23:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You can't use a discussion forum as a source to prove or disprove a fact in an article, but you may be able to use it to prove the discussion itself existed, or as an example of such discussion. I wouldn't send the reader to search engines though ( links to seach engine result pages are frowned on ) but might say something like "This is a perennial topic of discussion on ABC-site and XYZ-site, as well as USENET's rec.m.n.o.p", with links to examples of these discussions in the footnotes section. Squidfryerchef 18:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Video "Ogg" files

    Presently there are approximately 400 "ogg" video files. Approximately how many of these are actually used in articles and can I get a list of these articles? The others (20% +/-, I'm guessing) that are NOT used on articles then are for what purpose? --Doug talk 14:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    If you go to the video file's page, there should be a section titled "What links here" or something along those lines that lists where the video is being used. There probably is a way to write a script to figure out which ones are "orphan" files, but I'm not sure how to do it myself - maybe someone else will figure it out.
    As for what purpose they serve, none really. If there are any videos uploaded under a fair use rationale that aren't being used, they should be speedy deleted. Hersfold (talk/work) 15:15, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I request for an Article to be made?

    How or where do I request for an article to be made? I don't have that much skills in writing a full article yet, so I am wondering about asking people if I ever need to. Thank You

    Sincerly

    Kenny Sullivan 16:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Requested articles. PeaceNT 17:06, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, please remember to find the sub-topic in which your request best fits. Hope this helps. PeaceNT 17:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Be sure there is not already an article covering the topic you are interested in, perhaps under some other name. See Help:Searching. Wikipedia has many articles, so a topic has to be fairly obscure or specialized not to have an article yet. Ask at the reference desk for article(s) on any topic; if they cannot find an article, then you could request it. --Teratornis 23:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Search for a Wikipedia policy

    Is there a way I can quickly search for a Wikipedia policy? Right now, I enter the Community Portal and manually search/browse to find any info I need. --Madhu 17:14, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I find most wikipedia space pages by guessing shortcuts. Most wikipedia namespace shortcuts go along the lines of "WP:<acronym or abbreviation>". Examples: WP:SHORT > Wikipedia:Shortcut, WP:NOT > Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, WP:HD > Wikipedia:Help desk. If that doesn't turn up what you're looking for try the search box (or posting the question here). —Mitaphane ?|! 17:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I suppose you're looking for Wikipedia:List of shortcuts, there you can find the full list of Wikipedia policies and guidelines, the redirects are also useful. Hope this helps. PeaceNT 17:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You may find what you are looking for by browsing the Category:Wikipedia policies and guidelines -- zzuuzz(talk) 17:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    There are lists as well, see Wikipedia:List of policies and Wikipedia:List of guidelines. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, everyone. Mitaphane, yes, searching 'WP:xxx' in the search box works - this is what I really wanted to know - if there was a 'tag' I could use to search within the Wikipedia policy/help page instead of the encylopedia! Thanks again. ---Madhu 17:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Lately I'm liking: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia. Open the page, browse to a specific letter entry, or type search words in your Web browser's page search box. --Teratornis 21:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Can I use a picture that was already use on Wikipedia?

    If I wanted to use a picture that is already on Wikipedia do I still need a premission from the site or person that Wikipedia got it from? Kenny Sullivan 17:15, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    That depends on the license on image. What do you want to use it for? Do want to use it for another wikipedia page? That would be ok (assuming the image is already under Fair Use or some other license granting it use on the wikipedia). Do you want to use the image for your own, copyright protected project? That could violate wikipedia's license. Post the image in question so that one of the editors here could interpret what the license on the image means. —Mitaphane ?|! 17:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Mostly true, but not entirely. If it's fair use on one page, that doesn't automatically mean it can be used on another. Fair use has strict rules and requires a rationale for that particular page. Please read the page Mitaphane linked for more detail on fair use. - Mgm|(talk) 22:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    wikipeadia for mobiles?

    Thx for a great web page. Is there a wikipedia home page that can be used from mobiles?

    Regards, P.

    See WP:WAP. —Mitaphane ?|! 17:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    wikitables

    Hello, I have a question, how do you create wikitables? Do you type them directly or use a program? Do you create them easily or not? I visited a page in Internet which converted HTML tables to Wikitables. But I don't know how to make HTML tables. I make tables with MS Word, but they aren't HTML, and in Frontpage codes have many surpluses and they'll corrupt Wikipedia. So what do you suggest? Thanks a lot --MehranVB talk | mail 17:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I wouldn't bother with HTML since you're going to be converting to wiki markup anyway. Check out Help:Table. It covers all you need to know on making tables with wiki markup. —Mitaphane ?|! 17:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Name change

    Hi, I'm an experienced editor and the creator of WikiProject Tyne and Wear and it is currently being proposed that its name be chanegd to Wikiproject North East England. I'd be happy to edit the project logo and help with the change over its just that I'd like to know if there is a way all of the categories and subcategories for the proect easily because they are automatically update by the wikipedia editorial team bot (or something like that) on a daily basis and I was thinking if I change the categories will that stop the bot from working properly or will it jsut adjust, do you have any suggestions please? Thanks!Tellyaddict 17:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

    Well, I know considerably less about your WikiProject than you do, but I do know how to click on links and look at things, so maybe I can find some clues. Wikipedia:WikiProject Tyne and Wear#Categories has a list; the first one is Category:Tyne and Wear. Click the history tab to see what's been editing it. A bot edit points to: User:Escarbot, and its page says: This robot is only used to make interwiki links. You could ask on the owner's talk page if what you want to do will cause a problem for that bot. Then look at the histories of other pages you want to move, and ask the owners of bots that have edited those pages if what you want to do will cause a problem for them. For more information on bots, see: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Bot. --Teratornis 21:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    John Quincy

    Who was John Quincy's first wife?

    Please see John Quincy Adams. If that article doesn't have the information or if you meant a different John Quincy, then please ask over at the Reference desk which handles factual questions like this. Dismas|(talk) 18:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Template

    Hi, can someone please remind me where I put new templates, in case anyone wants to use them... I've put it on the Death Grunt talk page, and wikiproject metal talk page, but I am sure there was somewhere else I could put it... Any ideas? The template is

    This user growls in a heavy metal band.

    ({{User Metal Singer}}) Thanks, Asics talk Editor review! 18:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

    You may want to add it to Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/New Userboxes, or were you looking for something else? Dar-Ape 20:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

    That's what I was looking for, thanks! Asics talk Editor review! 21:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Reporting content

    I was wondering (as I can't find anything searching the FAQ) if there was a way to report or highlight content that needs changing because it is wrong, but that you don't know the right answer to.

    For example, I just found the following on the "Chicken" page:

    "Going broody

    A moody hen guarding her legs

    Sometimes ben will stop laying and instead will focus on the masterbation of eggs, a state that is commonly known as going moody. A moody pie will shit fast on the nest, and protest or peck in defense if disturbed or removed, and will rarely leave the nest to eat, drink, or dust bathe. While brooding, the hen maintains constant temperature and humidity, as well as turning the legs regularly."

    This is obviously wrong, but I don't know enough about chickens to do anything else other than remove the wrong words.

    If you look at the history of edits (top of the page) you can see when the edits were made and using the undo button (you'll see when you click on it) you can revert the edits. Also it is an idea to leave comments on the vandal's talk page, information on what to leave can be found here. Asics talk Editor review! 19:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, a list of talk page warnings can be found here. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 21:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Scroll boxes

    How do you create scroll boxes? By this I mean small boxes with the scroll bar (similar to what is normally far left of the screen on IE) down the side of it. I have seen it on wikipedia before, but I am unsure where I saw it! Thanks, Asics talk Editor review! 19:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    There's one on my user page actually. I can't remember where I copied it from, but the code is:
    <div style="height:20em; overflow:auto; border: 2px solid #088">
    Page contents here
    </div>
    You'll have to find someone more knowledgeable than myself if you want to know what all the code actually means. Raven4x4x 02:44, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Sending something

    i would like to send something to my friend on cleopatra how would i be able to send him something

    You'll have to be more specific. However if your friend is a user, you can leave messages on the user's talk page, type in Talk:username into the search box. If you are trying to send him information about the article from here, you can send him the link... Other than that I am unsure, but if you could be a bit more specific, I would be delighted to help Asics talk Editor review! 20:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You mean User talk:username --WikiSlasher 02:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thats what I mean! doh! Asics talk Editor review! 13:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    signpost

    where can i read the wikipedia signpost newspaper?qrc2006/email 20:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

    See WP:POST. Cheers, Dar-Ape 20:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    how do I add an article to wickepedia?

    above, I cannot find a link to add an article. There is not even a button to send this message. I take it you do not want people to easily add articlews or contact you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itrsteve (talkcontribs) 07:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See Help:Starting a new page for information on adding a new article. -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 20:25, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    A page listing all red image links?

    Is there a page on Wikipedia that lists all pages containing links to non-existent images (ie, red image links)? This would be very useful, for example, in finding chemical compounds who need pictures of their structures.shoy 17:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I was going to suggest Special:Wantedpages, but it has been turned off. You might find WP:WANTED or Wikipedia:WikiProject Red Link Recovery useful for what you're searching for. I think there's a problem with search though; people usually don't create image tags for non existent images. The only time I've seen red links for images were for deleted or renamed images, not for images that someone thought would be created at a later time. For that you might want to see Category:Wikipedia requested photographs by subjectMitaphane ?|! 18:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The reason I ask is that adding the template {{chembox}} to a page will automatically add a link to the image [Page Title].png. This would be an easy way of seeing which chemical pages needed structural formulas.shoy 22:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I see. Perhaps this is a job for the AutoWikiBrowser? You could tell it to go through the pages Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Chembox and have it report which pages have broken image links. I've never created a AWB plugin so I don't know how difficult/time consuming that could be.
    I'm looking at the list of what links to chembox, it looks like it would be quicker to do it manually by checking each page. It doesn't look like there's that many pages that uses chembox (maybe around 350?). If it takes around 10 seconds to load up a page (an a fraction of a second to check to see if there's a red image link) that's 3500 seconds, roughly an hour, to check them all.—Mitaphane ?|! 16:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Forgeting the edit summary

    I reverted some vandalism and forgot to say so in the edit summary. It wont let me change it either. What should I do SlakaJ 22:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

    It shouldn't be too much of a problem unless you do it repeatedly. You can go to the page, make an unnoticable edit, and refer to your previous edit in the summary for your new one. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 22:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    If you'd like to avoid accidentally leaving an edit summary blank, you might want to go to "my preferences" at the top of the page, click "Editing," and then select the checkbox next to "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary." Also, your signature does not contain a link to your userpage or talk page-- I think you may have accidentally checked the "Raw signature" box under "User profile" in preferences. If you could uncheck this, that would be great. Thanks, Dar-Ape 23:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    ThanksSlakaJ 10:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    February 25

    Search Box Memory

    How do I get the search box to forget what articles i've been to and never store that information again? Bacon warrior 04:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    That information is stored by your web browser, and you can change it in your web browser's preferences (either under Edit->Preferences or Tools->Options or somesuch). —Centrxtalk • 01:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much Bacon warrior 04:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Ernest Hemingway and polydactly cats being called "Hemingway cats"

    Hi.

    Although I don't subscribe to the fact that almost anyone can edit Wikipedia, I have an additonal fact about Ernest Hemingway!

    I just adopted a cat who is polydactyl -- which means that he has extra toes! I have since found out that polydactyls are also called "mitten cats" because it looks like they have mittens on their front paws (VERY cute!) but, most importantly, that Ernest Hemingway loved these special cats! Because he had so many, I've heard, is the reason why polydactyl cats are also called

                     "Hemingway Cats"
    

    I thought that was interesting enough to be added to your article on Hemingway!

    I will be certified as a teacher in December, and use our high school library regularly. I will have to say that most of the teachers at our high school advise students that when doing research, they cannot rely on Wikipedia for obtaining completely valid research.

    I think that this is a shame, as I fully enjoy your website! I was glad when the Hemingway article could not be added to -- I only found out about the polydactyl cat "love" last week, so I certainly don't feel I can reliably write about this fact!

    Thank you, Connie Goranson71.33.170.136 02:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC) Englewood High School[reply]

    Welcome to Wikipedia. You can add any relevant fact to an article, even if you just now discovered it, as long as you can cite your sources. For example, when you hear something interesting, you might look up a reference for it in your library. If more teachers would look up references for all the unsourced statements on Wikipedia, and add them to articles here, and encourage their students to do likewise, then Wikipedia might become more reliable. However, WP:CW says encyclopedias are often considered an unacceptable source for school papers. In any case, Polydactyl cat mentions Hemingway cats, complete with photos. You could add a link to Polydactyl cat to the Ernest Hemingway#Trivia section. --Teratornis 05:20, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I should point out that Wikipedia has lots of articles, so lots of interesting facts are hiding here somewhere. If you don't find a particular fact in the first article you think to search for it, try searching the rest of Wikipedia. For example, just because the Ernest Hemingway article doesn't mention Hemingway cats, there might well be another article that does (in this case, Hemingway cats which is a redirect to Polydactyl cat). You might show your digitally hyper-endowed feline that he is notable enough to warrant mention on Wikipedia, then show him the mouse article. --Teratornis 05:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Are disambiguation pages necessary when only one article exists?

    Until yesterday Walker House had a list of 14 different Walker Houses, but the only one that actually had a link to an article was right at the bottom of the list [2].

    My understanding is that disambiguation pages are created to disambiguate between articles of the same name, not for creating long lists of possible titles for articles that may or may not exist one day, especially when only one article by that name currently exists on Wikipedia.

    Anyway, I turned the "disambiguation" page to a redirect for that one article and soon after the creator of the page reverted it, after just have created a new stub for a second Walker House, apparently just to make a point and to justify creating the disambig page in the first place. All the other unlinked titles are back on there too.

    Is this the way to do it on Wikipedia? If only one article exists, then create a dab page anyway because one day someone might make articles with the same name?Saikokira 03:47, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Even if there's a disambig page, the title should probably direct to the most likely House, with a link on that page to the disambig page using one of these templates. Propose a move on WP:RM as there's obviously disagreement, but hopefully it will get you allies. Xiner (talk, email) 03:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Cfd page coding

    I added an entry to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 February 25 but screwed up the template coding so that now the entry doesn't appear in the TofC. Instead of "Category: Best Drama Actor Golden Globe (film)," it reads "NEW NOMINATIONS." Can someone help recode this (if it is not too much trouble)?--Vbd | (talk) 06:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Chikungunya, homeopathy etc.

    To The Editor Wikipedia

    I would like to share my experience in helping patients suffering from Chikungunya on Wikipedia but do not know how I may do so. I live in Sri Lanka, am 77 years old and Homeopathy is only a hobby to me. I have studied this science since 1968 but am not qualified in this science although I do have over 20 years of helping patients who consult me in Sri Lanka which I do completely free of charge, including the remedies that I dispense.

    Chikun Gunya was first reported in Sri Lanka in November 2006 and I used Polyporus Pinicola 200c to treat this disease with success. I also used Apis 6c to help with the usual edema that usually follows about a week after the first symptoms and continues for months thereafter. I used Gelsemium 30c as a prophylactic to help members of the same household to avoid contracting this disease.

    This disease was pandemic here in Sri Lanka from last November to the end of January when about 20% of the population were affected but no new cases are reported today. I have had some remarkable success in helping patients who present today with the after effects of Chikungunya with swollen ankles and pain in the joints which continue even 3 months after the onset of this disease. I now use a lower potency of Polyporus Pinicola in the 30c potency.

    I have observed that in the case of patients who have got used to the general aches and pains which are a characteristic of this disease, they respond in a few days to the Polyporus Pinicola 30c in the water dose which is made by inserting 2-3 drops of the remedy in Ethanol, into a 500ml bottle of spring water. A dose is a teaspoonful which is taken twice daily.

    I would like to share my therapy on the Treatment page of the article on Chikungunya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chikungunya I do not know how I may do so and would appreciate if any member of your staff can help as this information can be valuable to those who may be affected by this disease for which modern medicine does not have any cure.

    Polyporus Pinicola is a Homeopathic remedy and is described in Boericke on the link below: http://homeoint.org/books/boericmm/p/polyp-p.htm

    Joe De Livera Colombo Sri Lanka

    email: <e-mail address removed> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joe De Livera (talkcontribs)

    You can not do what it sounds like you want to do. Wikipedia is not a host of original research; things have to already be published in reliable sources. Relevant policy/guideline links include: Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Fringe theories, and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 07:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    One image has enough licensing info and another does not, but what is the difference?

    An image was recently removed from Homunculi of the Fullmetal Alchemist anime and it needs to be replaced, but I am having difficulty understanding the rules. It won't do any good if I replace the image with another one that will be removed.

    Here is another image from that page: Image:FMASloth.png. It seems to have whatever it takes to keep from being deleted. As I understand it, that is source and copyright information, but I can't find anything that I recognize as a source on the page for that image. In fact, this image seems to come with almost no documentation, and yet it is not removed.

    This is the image that was removed: Image:Lust.JPG. As I write this, it has not been deleted, but I expect it will be deleted shortly. What exactly is it missing, and where can I find that for Image:FMASloth.png? -- Lilwik 07:47, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    1. Source. Where did it originally come from?
    2. Fair use rationale. Why do we need these imaages in the first place?
    3. Copyright holder. Whose image is this?
    The first image does not have a source. It may eventually be tagged for deletion in the future. Titoxd(?!?) 07:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    In case it is not clear, the above response does not actually explain anything. Those points are given directly on the page of Image:Lust.JPG. I know that those things are supposed to be required and I would like to know how to supply them, but I cannot find that information in the other images on the same page which all ultimately come from approximately the same source. I presume that the information must be somehow there, because those images were not removed as this one was. -- Lilwik 09:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I have made an attempt at replacing the image. Is this the correct way to do it? I supplied all the information I could think of and find, as well as my best attempt at a fair use rational, though I'm not a lawyer. Is Image:FMALust2.jpg correct? -- Lilwik 05:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    That looks fine to me. Harryboyles 05:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Multiple samples of same songs (Not what it seems to be, read below)

    A Funk Odyssey is a Jamiroquai-related article I've been contributing to, especially on the topic of the controversial test pressing of the album, which is very different from what the final album came to be. Some of the congs are very dissimilar to their "official" counterparts. I need to know if I'm allowed to upload 2 (TWO) samples per song, for comparison purposes between the test pressing and the final album. (User:MrFunkster)

    I'm no expert on this sort of thing, but I would be concerned that fair use wouldn't apply to copyrighted recordings that haven't actually been released. -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 09:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    So that means that I can not upload them? Well, that's just "awesome". MrFunkster 10:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    wikiproject central america help

    i'm wondering how i can become a participant in the wikiproject central america? i went to the project page where it said i can join but can't quite figure out exactly how to go about dong this. i would really like to contribute and help others.

    thanks Matteo747 10:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Just click on the edit tab beside Wikipedia:WikiProject Central America#Participants and add your name. Hope this helps. --Joshua Chiew 10:59, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I added his name to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Central_America asa participant. Hope this helps. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, odometer) 11:56, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    how can i become a volunteer for the central america project? please help!

    hi im from el salvador and i would like to help make improvements on the article and on this site can you please contact me about the procedure... thank youGuacamaya

    Please see the question directly above this one. Dismas|(talk) 11:45, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    how do i

    how do i create a user page with the little boxes with my information on them?

    Those little boxes are called userboxes. To find all the userboxes, go to WP:UBX and copy the code (the {{ }} and the stuff inside them) and paste it on to your userpage >Kamope< Talk · Sign Here 12:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi there. I want to publish an article about a company in Ireland called, www.celtictrails.com An incredibly good company that I believe deserves to be publisised. How do I do it? 86.41.15.236 13:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You can either create an account or request it. >Kamope< Talk · Sign Here 13:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Bear in mind that if the article is aiming to promote the company, it will probably be deleted. Wikipedia articles should only be written about companies that are notable (click that link to get a description). You need to write in an encyclopedic tone, without a specific point of view, so you can't just write an article about how great the company is. Wikipedia is not supposed to publicise things, it is supposed to write about things that are already known, and not say more than is already written about them in reliable sources. I advice you to read the links I've provided in this paragraph and think about them before creating an article. But we'd love to have you editing! Skittle 16:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Mobile Wikipedia

    Hello & congratulations on the project.I've been using the Palm based encyclopedia for a while but have now bought a mobile phone with a 1Gb card,on to which I hoped to load the file.Is there a text version of the encyclopedia which I could use,or is there a convert program to produce text? If not,could you please advise me of the correcty Tomeraider program to buy fot the phone.

    The model is a NOKIS 6680,running symbian 60 ( I think)

    thankyou≈ very much & regards - Peter

    Does WP:WAP help? --Teratornis 16:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Deletion of a re-direct in order to change the title of an article

    I would like to move Parliament of Italy to Italian Parliament and The Socialists (Italy) to The Socialists, but there is a problem: Italian Parliament (correct translation of Parlamento Italiano) is a re-direct to Parliament of Italy and The Socialists is a re-direct to The Socialists (Italy). Can anyone help me? --Checco 15:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I proposed the deletion of the two pages mentioned before (Italian Parliament and The Socialists) in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 February 25. I hope that it is all right. --Checco 15:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Can't you just move the page Parliament of Italy to Italian Parliament using the move tab? I thought that worked if the article's only history was being a redirect. Skittle 16:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I can't understand what you're saying. Anyway I tried to put my move request at Wikipedia:Requested moves, but, as you can see there, I had some problems with it. Can you help me about it? --Checco 17:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Creating a Wiki

    I was just interested in how I would be able to make a wiki. I have seen some other Wiki's for specific sites (Ic-wiki.com for instance) And I was wondering how I could make another one for a similar some other site. How would I be able to get host permissions from Wikiepdia in other words? Thank you for your help!

    ~KtC Angel of Peace

    There's no need to get permission from us. Wikipedia is built on the free software, MediaWiki. You can download it yourself and run it on your own website host (see the link for instructions on installation). Or, if you can't afford web hosting, an alternative is to try out Wikia. —Mitaphane ?|! 16:45, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Also see b:Wiki Science/How to start a Wiki, and check the List of wikis to see if a wiki already exists that you can use. --Teratornis 17:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I have no sound in my compiuter.

    Please ,will you say ,"why have I no any sound in compiuter that Tv VDO or CD plyers ? I have sound box . May be I have no programe sound downloding.Please help me,white can I do?

    Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. delldot | talk 19:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    new article not posting

    hello, i've posted an article for a friend of mine and it does not come up in a search. also, the picture is always being removed. i received permission from her to use this photo and upload the article. can you please help me.

    the page is for Colleen Patrick Goudreau of Compassionate Cooks.

    the login I used to create the page was compassionatecooks

    you can contact me at [email address removed by Lilwik 22:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)][reply]

    thank you. danielle 17:40, 25 February 2007 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Compassionatecooks (talkcontribs)

    It won't show because you created it on your userpage. And remember to sign your comments--SUIT-n-tie 17:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Also remember not to include your email address. I removed it for compassionatecooks's own good, but I suspect it is already too late. -- Lilwik 22:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    RFC for best way to handle table of figures

    I've been fixing up the article on CB radio, and we've gone through several different ways to handle the list of frequencies. I'm looking for a pointer to a template, if any, that would resolve the issue.

    One way of doing it is at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Citizens%27_band_radio&oldid=109975353. Here we have a good multicolumn table, with fixed-width fonts and shading. However it looks a little "broken" because the space between the columns is not shaded, and it looks a little like an example of the use of a template on a how-to page.

    Template:MultiCol

    Channel 01   26.965 MHz
    Channel 02   26.975 MHz
    Channel 03   26.985 MHz
    Channel 04   27.005 MHz
    Channel 05   27.015 MHz
    Channel 06   27.025 MHz
    Channel 07   27.035 MHz
    Channel 08   27.055 MHz
    Channel 09   27.065 MHz
    Channel 10   27.075 MHz
    

    | class="col-break " |

    Channel 11   27.085 MHz
    Channel 12   27.105 MHz
    Channel 13   27.115 MHz
    Channel 14   27.125 MHz
    Channel 15   27.135 MHz
    Channel 16   27.155 MHz
    Channel 17   27.165 MHz
    Channel 18   27.175 MHz
    Channel 19   27.185 MHz
    Channel 20   27.205 MHz
    

    | class="col-break " |

    Channel 21   27.215 MHz
    Channel 22   27.225 MHz
    Channel 23   27.255 MHz
    Channel 24   27.235 MHz
    Channel 25   27.245 MHz
    Channel 26   27.265 MHz
    Channel 27   27.275 MHz
    Channel 28   27.285 MHz
    Channel 29   27.295 MHz
    Channel 30   27.305 MHz
    

    | class="col-break " |

    Channel 31   27.315 MHz
    Channel 32   27.325 MHz
    Channel 33   27.335 MHz
    Channel 34   27.345 MHz
    Channel 35   27.355 MHz
    Channel 36   27.365 MHz
    Channel 37   27.375 MHz
    Channel 38   27.385 MHz
    Channel 39   27.395 MHz
    Channel 40   27.405 MHz
    

    Template:EndMultiCol

    In http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Citizens%27_band_radio&action=edit&oldid=110275187, it's been changed to a different kind of table, and might be more correct except I don't like the spacing and I don't like the variable-width font.

    Channel 01 26.965 MHz
    Channel 02 26.975 MHz
    Channel 03 26.985 MHz
    Channel 04 27.005 MHz
    Channel 05 27.015 MHz
    Channel 06 27.025 MHz
    Channel 07 27.035 MHz
    Channel 08 27.055 MHz
    Channel 09 27.065 MHz
    Channel 10 27.075 MHz

    Channel 11 27.085 MHz
    Channel 12 27.105 MHz
    Channel 13 27.115 MHz
    Channel 14 27.125 MHz
    Channel 15 27.135 MHz
    Channel 16 27.155 MHz
    Channel 17 27.165 MHz
    Channel 18 27.175 MHz
    Channel 19 27.185 MHz
    Channel 20 27.205 MHz

    Channel 21 27.215 MHz
    Channel 22 27.225 MHz
    Channel 23 27.255 MHz
    Channel 24 27.235 MHz
    Channel 25 27.245 MHz
    Channel 26 27.265 MHz
    Channel 27 27.275 MHz
    Channel 28 27.285 MHz
    Channel 29 27.295 MHz
    Channel 30 27.305 MHz

    Channel 31 27.315 MHz
    Channel 32 27.325 MHz
    Channel 33 27.335 MHz
    Channel 34 27.345 MHz
    Channel 35 27.355 MHz
    Channel 36 27.365 MHz
    Channel 37 27.375 MHz
    Channel 38 27.385 MHz
    Channel 39 27.395 MHz
    Channel 40 27.405 MHz

    So, how would I get a multicolumn fixed-width table to shade the entire table, or, on the other hand, how do I modify the second table to get the "typewritten" font back? Or, is there another template that would be better suited for this table? Squidfryerchef 17:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Replied on User talk:Squidfryerchef. —XhantarTalk 21:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    adding some MP3 samples to an article about rubato in music.

    Hi, I did add an article about the rubato in music, and I wish to add some samples of it by a American concert pianist that I know, and which gave me the permission to do it, since she is to my knowledge the only one today to do it that way... And after trying to upload the file, I was told that the MP3 format can't be uploaded... so, what can be done, I could put it in any other format if you wish... I believe it has to be possible to have some music data, since otherwise it all stays completely theoretical... Discussing about a special year of a particular Burgundy bottle is fine, but without tasting it, the words are not enough! Thanks to advise me Dsoslglece 18:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Convert it to .ogg and upload it. -Wooty Woot? contribs 18:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding a text file... ?

    I'm trying to upload a text file but it keeps coming back saying incorrect file format... am I really supposed to upload a JPEG of text?

    I've looked around at the FAQ and other help materials but am obviously missing the answer. Thanks for any insight.

    You're not s'posed to upload text files, only images and such--SUIT-n-tie 19:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Why do you want to upload a text file? Can't you include the text directly in the article? -- Lilwik 06:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    References help

    I have recently created a page on the game Emergency Mayhem, but the references havent worked. I have looked at the help pages, and i am sure i have done it right, so can someone check it to see what i have done wrong? Thanks Mattyatty 19:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You forgot to close the last ref, so it tried to include the refrences section in the ref. I fixed it for you. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 19:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the help Mattyatty 20:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    User Talk

    Is there a user page sandbox that i can practice with. I want to see how something will look as a comment on someones user page, but I'd like to test it out first. JWP --Jwikipro 21:40, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    If you want to create your own personal sandbox , just click on this link: Special:Mypage/Sandbox, and it will create one. See Wikipedia:User_page#How do I create a user_subpage for more info. -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 21:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You can also use the preview button. --WikiSlasher 07:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Author

    who is the author of this site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.107.36 (talk) 10:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia and Wikipedia:Introduction. There is no one single author - Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. Jimbo Wales and the Wikimedia Foundation are in charge, however. -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 23:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Page has vanished without a trace!

    Hi! I created the Quarantine Nightclub page on Friday night at about 20:00 GMT. I tried to go back there again just now and the page no longer exists. More than that, it's almost as if the page had never existed...All references to it have vanished from my contributions log (So it's not just null-out vandalism...It's been done by someone at Wikipedia), although the article itself still comes up in the search system and referances to it may be found on other pages. No deletion or other message has been left in my talk page about this, and given that there are several pages for nightclubs across the UK, I would hold that my contribution was a perfectly valid one.

    What I want to know is: 1. Why has this page been deleted (Or so I presume) with neither referance to myself, nor an explanation being given? 2. As I have a right to defend any articles that I create, why was I not contacted and given a chance to defend my article before it was deleted? Incidentally, I ran a search through the deletion log, and couldn't find an entry there either, so someone at Wikipedia has obviously taken a dislike to my work! :-@

    Please copy any responses to my talk page as this page can be impossible to navigate at the best of times, so I'm more likely to read replies there. Thanks in advance.

    Hyperspeed 23:59, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    According to the article's deletion log, it was deleted by Jaranda. The "A7" refers to the following (from WP:Speedy):

    Unremarkable people, groups, companies and web content. An article about a real person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject. If the assertion is likely to be controversial or there has been a previous AfD, the article should be nominated for AfD instead.

    Should you wish to appeal the deletion, please see: Wikipedia:Speedy deletions#Appealing speedy deletions
    XhantarTalk 00:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Lots of articles get deleted from Wikipedia for lots of reasons. If you want to make a page and actually see it again, make sure you are making the page on a wiki that wants the type of content you want to publish. See List of wikis for some places to look. --Teratornis 01:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    February 26

    Plumber's putty

    I was searching Wikipedia for information about "Plumber's putty". I have an old can and it has asbestos in it. I needed to know if this was common or a very OLD can and represented a health risk if I used it.

    I wanted to properly file a question under say "construction" or "plumbing" or the closest thing I found was "architecture" and was routed to a massive page on computer architecture. Not wanting to offend by my lack of wiki knowledge, I tried looking in the FAQ and still got very little guidance (ALBEIT, for a new user of a wiki... I at least know what a wiki is).

    My last resort after about 30 minutes of trying to "do things the right way", I am now forced to just ask a question in general. I am very sorry if I have approached this improperly, but you REALLY need some kind of information about how folks do home improvement. Even a DIY (do it yourself) category would be helpful. All I really wanted to know was if asbestos is dangerous in plumber's putty. Heck I can't imagine how many questions folks would have about what pressure treated lumber is or the difference between a crescent wrench verses channel locks.

    I hope you will do something to add this kind of functionality to your web site.

    Thanks for your time. 68.217.113.163 00:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see WP:NOT#IINFO. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a how-to guide, and the community consensus is that it shouldn't contain information of the type that you are suggesting. -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 00:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    That said: Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. —XhantarTalk 00:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Did someone say how-to guide? Try wikiHow! Wikipedia does not wish to be a how-to guide, but wikiHow does. Whenever Wikipedia doesn't want some type of non-encylopedic content, there is probably another wiki that does. There are lots of wikis. Wikipedia is merely the world's largest and most famous wiki, the one that shows up in every other Google search any more. For most of us, Wikipedia is our first introduction to wiki technology. However, we learn pretty fast that Wikipedia is actually a very specialized kind of wiki, and doesn't necessarily want every sort of useful content. Fortunately, setting up more wikis is so easy (well, sort of) that thousands of people have done it. There is probably a wiki for everything that needs to be said. --Teratornis 01:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Can't edit very large article

    At List of medical topics (S), there is a link to Subway, which is a dab page. Because none of the dab targets is a medical topic, I wanted to remove the wikilink and post about this on the article talk page. But I've made about seven attempts to edit the article just to remove the wikilink, with no success -- the edits never take. Could this have anything to do with the fact that the article is 286 KB in size? Any help would be appreciated. --Tkynerd 00:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I just checked the page, and there is no wikilink on the word "Subway". Your edits took, you just can't see them. Try purging the database first by adding &action=purge to the end of the page's URL. If that doesn't work, clear your browser's cache (In Firefox, press Ctrl+Shift+R). Sometimes this happens, I'm not quite sure why. Hersfold (talk/work) 00:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I can't even get the damn page to display! Thanks for checking this for me. (PS I took the liberty of indenting your comment above, hope you don't mind.) --Tkynerd 00:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    No, that's fine. I usually do anyway, not sure why I didn't indent it here. The page isn't loading for me, either. Wikimedia may be having some server issues, or it could be that the page is too big after all and is just freezing up... but that doesn't explain why this page is loading when it's much larger. If you still can't get it working, try asking about it at the tech village pump - someone there might know what's going on. Hersfold (talk/work) 00:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    EMANIO deleted

    I uploaded an article on EMANIO which has been deleted for some reason. I haven't been informed as to why, but would you please check what happened.

    I will upload a replacement now, but would appreciate your feedback.


    Thanks, Excebiche

    A reason was posted to your talk page. Please make sure articles about companies meet WP:NOTABILITY and are phrased like encyclopedia articles, not advertisements. *Mishatx*-In\Out 02:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Copying over Template:Navigation

    I want to create a navbar on another wiki (this X is part of a series on Y, has a bunch of links to related things at the bottom). However, I can't figure out how to copy over Template:Navigation for use on it. Some weird transclusion is going on. Help? -Wooty Woot? contribs 01:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    What wiki? (Netscott) 02:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    It's private, running MediaWiki. If there's no easy way to do this I'll just code my own little table. -Wooty Woot? contribs 05:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The main template that Navigation relies upon is Template:Tnavbar. Just copy Tnavbar over to your Wiki and then copy Template:Navigation and you'll be good to go. (Netscott) 13:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Does Wikipedia:Piped_link#Easter_egg to my userpage? --Seans Potato Business 02:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It appears you are missing at least one word in your question. Without it, the question makes no sense as "Easter Egg" is not a verb, so nothing can Easter Egg to your userpage. --Kainaw (talk) 04:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm guessing there should be an "apply" before "to". In which case, I'd say, "No", as long as it meets the requirements of WP:USER. Some userboxes and the Motto of the Day contain easter egg links. *Mishatx*-In\Out 09:00, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Correct, Mishatx; you found the missing word! Thanks :) --Seans Potato Business 10:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikimedia Commons vs. Upload to Wikipedia

    When I upload an image, should I upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of to Wikipedia? How do I use it on Wikipedia if I do so? If I upload an image to Wikipedia, does it get automatically moved to the commons? Is it prefered that I upload to the commons or here? Can my image achieve "quality image" or "featured image" status if it is not in the Commons, but is on Wikipedia? Thanks Steevven1 (Talk) (Contribs) (Gallery) 02:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    If you can, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons. All the images there can be used here exactly the same way. However, there are added licensing restrictions on Commons; see Commons:Licensing for more info. There's no restrictions on whether Commons images can become Featured pictures here, but only Commons images may become Featured pictures in Commons. Titoxd(?!?) 02:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    (after edit conflict) A lot of questions... let's try to answer them. First: if your image is under a free licence (e.g. you made it yourself or you can prove it with permission from the original copyright holder), it's better to upload it to Commons, because other Wikipedias and other Wikimedia projects can use it at well. Second question: Using an image from the Commons works in the same way you would use an image you have uploaded locally, just use [[Image:Foo.extension]]. Thid one: No it doesn't, it has to be moved by hand, re-uploading it to Commons and marking it for deletion here (use {{NowCommons}} and see Wikipedia:Moving images to Commons). Fourth question: Not up to speed on the processes here, but a "featured picture" or quality image on the Commons can only attain that status if it's hosted there. Hope that helped, Niels|en talk-nl talk (faster response)| 03:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    a user on wikipedia

    i know one of the users you have on here "LaNicoya" i just wanted to advice you and let you know (i am sure as time goes by you will find out and you'll see that what i say is true so keep this in mind) that i ran into her a couple of times in yahoo answers and she got her account canceled because she cheated to gain points and she harrased/stalked me and other users of salvadorian and costa rican decent she is also known for defamation impersonating and cloning wich means she doesnt like el salvador or costa rica and she will trash it and do whatever to make those countries profiles the worst because she always wants to make nicaragua sound better than costa rica and el salvador because it offends her that they are doing better so keep this in mind and watch her every move because she is not trust worthy at all she is a racist that will do whatever to make once again el salvador and costa rica the worst profiles. LaNicoya will probably not let anyone help improve the el salvador or the costa rica profiles so for when that happens i have already told you and you im sure will be able to see its her, im sure her ip adress will appear even if she does make 100's of accounts like she is known to do. I will keep an eye out for her because i do plan to contribute to the el salvador page and im sure she will do whatever to make sure the country sounds bad, if i were you i wouldnt allow a racist as a volunteer.Judith Gonzales

    i will pull some files from yahoo answers that she wrote descriminating costa rica and el salvador so you will see i am not making this up and you will know its her because her nickname is always 7 squares then LaNicoya and she says she is buddhist she supports daniel ortega she is from panorama city los angeles she is 17 etc...Judith Gonzales

    If she gives you trouble please consult Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and always remember our policies on civility and no personal attacks. If you suspect multiple accounts to be the same user trying to push a particular point of view, please see Wikipedia:Requests for CheckUser. --WikiSlasher 07:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh and remember to assume good faith as well, and welcome! --WikiSlasher 07:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    IP User talk page warnings: deletion by IP user

    By the end of the answers to Wikipedia:Help_desk#Blanking_your_own_talk_pages I'm still unsure, though I appreciate the reminder of WP:VANDAL. For an IP user talk page, where the IP user is deleting recent warnings (like 'today'), what are the usual policies? And, if it is not permitted because that would be erasing the tracks of bad behavior, what would be a good template to use? uw-tpv1 doesn't seem right for an IP user talk page. I read through the WP:UTM area and nothing seemed to fit nicely. Shenme 04:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    There used to be an appropriate template, but it got TfD'd. I, too, am unclear on the best course of action in these situations. *Mishatx*-In\Out 08:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Well the IP indeed turned out to be a sockpuppet (admitted) so the revert was okay, but the lack of an appropriate warning was not okay. I don't want to make one up on the fly, as it might start out "Hey! you @#&^@#...."   :-)   Shenme 09:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Do I get credit for what I write on Wikipedia articles?

    Hi, My name is Morgan talbot and I am 11 years old. I added some information onto an article about garden skinks (Lampropholis guichenoti) yesterday and I was wondering if I will get credit for what I wrote. I thought this might be important because I found this imformation by observation (observing live garden skinks) and I Might want to include it in a school project ect. and I don't want to be accused of copying other people (or, in this case myself). Below I have copied the article on to this page and put a blank line in between the original article and what I wrote (the peice on top is the original article and my added info is on the bottom)

    Original Article:

    The Common Garden Skink or Pale-flecked Garden Sunskink (Lampropholis guichenoti) is a small common skink often seen in suburban gardens in Melbourne, Australia, but is common across most of Southern Australia. It grows to a maximum of 14 cm, but rarely exceeds 9 cm. It lays its eggs in communal clutches. Like most other skinks, the tail will drop if grasped roughly. The tail then twitches vigorously for a while, to hold the attention of the predator while the lizard makes its escape.

    What I wrote:

    Garden skinks rely purely on the movement of their prey when hunting. if their prey is not moving, they will not see it as edible and will not strike. When hunting, the skinks will either hide and wait for prey to come by or actively pursue it (this depends on how hungry they are). Once they have caught their prey, they shake it around vigourously to kill it before swallowing it whole. Once they have had one meal, they begin to actively persue prey with their newfound energy. The skinks only need one prey item per 4 or 5 days, but will eat every day if conditions are good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.168.49.226 (talkcontribs)

    Only in so much as it shows your IP or username on the history page. You can give the URL of the diff to show the actual edit and which user wrote it, but you'd need to find a way to prove that the user shown on said diff is actually you. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 06:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    If you do want credit for your writing, you can join a wiki which allows signed articles, for example: Wikinfo. Also be aware that lots of people edit Wikipedia, so someone might edit what you write. After a few rounds of that, the passage might no longer be recognizable as yours. It's best to ask your teacher first for the rules on what you can use for your assignments. --Teratornis 06:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Just a note, adding information from personal observation is original research, and not appropriate for Wikipedia. I don't too much doubt the truth of what you added (and it's a nice starting point for a stub article), we'd prefer that you can cite a source. *Mishatx*-In\Out 08:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    uncited material

    I found an article on "Anglo-Norman language" that is largely just copy-pasted from a real paper written by a linguist named David Trotter- but there are no citations or references. Some words or phrases have been changed, but the bulk of the article is word-for-word from the original paper. The issue is not that the article is inaccurate, just that the person who posted it clearly copied this man's work without citing his source. I looked at the faq's about fair use and public domain, and I don't think it's a copyright violation (since we used the same article in a class I'm taking) but, I don't know how to tag it to say "cite your source."

    Thanks, 71.206.190.91 07:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    No, if it is as you describe then that is a copyright violation, unless the article is over (perhaps) 100 years old. And if it is, then it is plagiarism instead. Citation doesn't allow an article to be copied; the entire article must be rewritten in the editor's own words. Is the original article on the web anywhere, and if so, can you let us know the URL? If not, can you please let us know the publication detail of the original. Notinasnaid 09:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think it's a copyright violation (since we used the same article in a class I'm taking) - this is incorrect. What you read in class (for example, in a photocopied reader) and what is on Wikipedia are entirely different things (not to mention that what you're reading in class could be an unauthorized copy). What you describe seems a clear copyright violation that should be reported at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Username

    I have another username that I normally use on websites, the name is taken on wikipedia and i'm wondering if it was me that is signed up to it and I have forgotten the password, or if it's someone else who has taken the account name? If it's the latter then I don't mind, but if it's the former i'd rather use that username than this one. Is there any way I can find out? Capubadger 07:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    What's the name? --WikiSlasher 07:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Help:Logging_in#What_if_I_forget_the_password.3F or Wikipedia:Usurpation. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 07:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The name is Capuchin, I've just done the e-mail new password thing, I have several inactive email accounts though and it may be registered to one of those - we will see. How do I go about seeing if the user has contributed - as per the usurpation process? Also, the Usurpation process requires that the person requsting usurpation be a contributing member - I only activated this username today, and have made several contributions (of a Wikipedia:WikiGnome-like nature), but as an anonymous user. Is that a problem? Capubadger 08:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, according to Special:Contributions/Capuchin, there have been no contributions from that username. According to the log the account was created on Sept 5, 2006. Do you remember what email address you would have been using then? *Mishatx*-In\Out 08:39, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmm, it may be my old e-mail address. That sounds like the kind of time I would have created it. It's more likely to be one of my new ones though, I'll have to see when I get home. Thanks for your help.Capubadger 08:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Yep i didnt get an email so i guess it isnt mine. Time for usurpation!! Capubadger 08:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Musical Group Entry

    hello, i was interested in starting a wikipedia entry for an american musical group that may or may not still exist, but is very mysterious to most people and i am constantly questioned about their history and sound. bas on this, i decided that i would like to make a wikipedia entry for this group but i do not know if this would fit the guidelines for a real entry. i noticed their name is mentioned when you search for the tag "noise rock".

    please let me know if this is a possibility and how i would go about creating such an entry. thank you.

    bill (email removed)

    Wikipedia:Your first article and Help:Starting a new page for starters, and make sure it satisfies WP:MUSIC, otherwise it will be speedy-deleted. This involves reliable sources, neutral points of view and lack of conflict of interest. Because your band seems to clash with the genre noise rock, you need to look at disambiguation as well. x42bn6 Talk 13:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How to report offensive statements?

    The article on 'Winder, GA' contains this sentence, "It is also the asshole of the earth." I could not find a link to report offensive language/statements; so I went in to try and edit (remove it), but could not (you will see my attempt in the history log, this date). Could someone please remove this? And where is the 'report' link? Thank you.

    I have removed that statement from the article. Unfortunately, as Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, this kind of vandalism happens. The best thing to do is to click on "edit this page" at the top and remove it yourself. Thanks for letting us know though. Will (aka Wimt) 12:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you. I will read how to edit correctly so I can do this in the future.

    Mathmode in titles

    I was editing the page on Trigonometric_substitution#Examples, and wanted to include three cases with headings. What's the best way to do this? Mathmode in titles? Sub/superscripts? Should I just leave this entirely in normal case?

    Advice would be very much appreciated, I've tried to look for guidance in the help here and mediawiki pages, but didn't find anything suitable. DavidMcKenzie 12:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:TITLE gives guidelines for many other kinds of titles, but I don't see anything about math in there. WP:MSM does not mention titles either, but you should read it if you haven't already, just in case any clues jump out. You might try looking at other well-edited mathematics articles for ideas to copy. See what the folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics are doing - wow, there's an impressive WikiProject. Perhaps you should join it. I would imagine the members of WikiProject Mathematics know everything there is to know about writing mathematics articles on Wikipedia. --Teratornis 17:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Generally speaking, it's a bad, bad idea to put anything but plain text into section headings. Section headings are often used for linking; non-plaintext can cause problems. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    how do i put my page on wiki

    hi, we are an energy consulting firm and would like to upload a page for us in wikipedia. how do i do that. thanks.

    Anyone can edit Wikipedia. There is some restriction with creating new pages, but that is easily avoided by creating a user account and using that instead of an anonymous IP address. However, it is against Wikipedia policy for people/companies to put pages in for themselves. If your consulting firm is notable, someone who is not related with the firm will likely create the page. --Kainaw (talk) 12:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    First, you have to make sure that you really do want a page on Wikipedia, and that it wouldn't be deleted straight away. You would need some reliable sources independent of the company that referred to it, so that the article could be attributed and to prove that the company was notable. Make sure that you can write neutrally in this situation, despite the conflict of interest involved (or wait for someone else to write the article if you can't). If you haven't already, you should read the Introduction and Tutorial for information on how to edit Wikipedia pages, then Wikipedia:Your first article and Help:Starting a new page for information on how to start a new page. I hope that helps! --ais523 13:00, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
    Search Wikipedia to see if any articles exist about other firms such as yours. (Also check the category pages to see if your company's article would fit into an existing category; for example, maybe something like: Category:Energy companies of the United States.) If other firms similar to yours have uncontroversial articles, so can yours. Check the article histories and their talk pages to see if any of those articles have stimulated controversy in the past. Read other well-established articles about corporations to get an idea of what a corporation article should be (for example, pick virtually any major company and see what's here: Microsoft, Google, Exxon Mobil, etc.). Above all, avoid peacock language - that will get your article flagged for deletion straightaway. Just state the sober facts about the company, provide published citations to support them all, and let readers draw their own conclusions as to how marvelous everything is (or not). Demonstrate your good faith by leaving a note on your article's talk page that explains your potential conflict of interest, that you want to play by the rules here, and you invite and will graciously accept correction from more experienced Wikipedians on how to get the article in proper shape (if your first attempt isn't). If you do want to advertise or promote, you will need to find another wiki. If your firm already has its own Web site, someday you might consider starting your own corporate wiki, so you can collaborate efficiently with your employees, customers, and suppliers. See b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki and TWiki. --Teratornis 17:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    One more thing - if you aren't sure you can write a neutral article about your company, you could request that someone else write the article. There should be no conflict of interest in merely asking. By the way, welcome to Wikipedia! If this place seems to have lots of complicated rules, well, it does. But you did the right thing to ask first, rather than just write something because it's so easy to write something (getting something to stick is often much harder). --Teratornis 17:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    purkinje fibre's conductivity

    Hi, I want to know why purkinje fibre has the highest conductivity despite the long duration of its action potential. (electrical activity in cardiovascular physiology)-------....

    How long does it take for a photo to show up?

    How long does it take for a photo to show up?

    I made some comments on talk pages.

    My comments were stupid, it was not about the article itself, as I am a somewhat new user. Can I delete my comments? Or, content on talk pages cannot be deleted, so should I keep it?Ayasi 18:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Don't quote me on this, but I believe that you can delete your own comment as long as nobody's replied to it.

    How do you add info so a search for an article abbreviation comes up?

    If you search for Westerly, RI; Westerly, Rhode Island comes up.

    If you search for Weekapaug, RI.... nothing comes up; but if you search for Weekapaug, Rhode Island an article comes up.

    How could you fix the article for Weekapaug so a search for Weekapaug, RI would redirect to Weekapaug, Rhode Island.

    Thanks

    You just create the article Weekapaug, RI with the following text (only):
    #REDIRECT [[Weekapaug, Rhode Island]]
    That's all there is to it. --Tkynerd 18:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Please don't spend a lot of time creating such redirects. There are tens of thousands of town and city articles in Wikipedia, virtually none with such redirects. The best way to find a town is either search on its name (rather than using the "Go" button), or to search via Google. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Using lastname, firstname format for a redirect

    What is Wikipedia's policy on making "Lastname, Firstname" redirect articles?
    For example Gates, Bill
    Thanks,
    Kevs 19:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • All the help pages on Wikipedia:Naming conventions say the order should be "Firstname Lastname". A quick perusal of Wikipedia:Redirect doesn't give any info either. I would say don't create them unless it's about names where first and last are often mixed up. - Mgm|(talk) 00:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks for the answer! -- Kevs 03:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • To add on: redirects are to help those who search on a (slightly) incorrect term. So if (say) a lot of people misspelled "Bill Gates" as "Bil Gates", a redirect would get them to the right article even though the searched on the wrong one. Since people pretty much always search on Firstname Lastname, there isn't any good reason to set up a redirect for the Lastname, Firstname case. (If nothing else, we don't want to train anyone to expect that Lastname, Firstname is a good way to search, because it's not.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk pages

    how do I talk on the talk pages Nighthawk455 20:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You talk on talk pages by editing them just like a normal article (like you did to add this question). Veinor (talk to me) 20:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Reverting multiple edits

    I recently dealt with a couple of articles that had suffered vandalism where a single user made six or seven vandalising edits in quick succession. Is there any way to revert them all at once, or do you have to do it (as I did) one edit at a time? Heliomance 20:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you mean that the same user had vandalized more than one page, or that he had vandalized the same page more than once? Veinor (talk to me) 20:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Same page more than once Heliomance 20:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, the most efficient way is then to just restore the version present before they vandalized; to see how to do so, see Help:Reverting. Veinor (talk to me) 20:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • The administrator rollback button will undo all the changes made by the same user if there's no intervening edits, so you could ask an admin. There's also an admin light script floating around. Not sure how that would react to the situation. _ Mgm|(talk) 00:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • If all the edits are consecutive, they can be reverted with a single "undo"; admin tools are not needed. On the history page, use the two columns of radio buttons to do a compare between the most recent vandal edit and the version of the article just prior to the vandalizing. The comparison will say something like "(Five intermediate revisions not shown.)" The "undo" link (far right, near top) will revert all the edits that the comparison covers.
      • If the vandal did vandalizing edits in (say) two consecutive clusters, then you'd do two "undos", not one, of course. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    uncited material (part 2)

    I know it says in the instructions that if you have a follow-up question you should just click 'edit,' but there is no 'edit' button showing up. I think it's because I don't have a username. Anyway, last night I asked how to report a possible copyright violation, and one of the users confirmed that it is a copyright violation, but I still don't know how to fix it. Do I email wikipedia? I have the name and URL of the article that the author copied.

    Regarding edit problems, see the section immediately below. Regarding copyright violations, post at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I no longer get the "Edit" link next to the section headings in this article (help desk). I get it if I log off. I get it in other articles. Any ideas? Notinasnaid 21:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    This was discussed at Wikipedia talk:Help desk, and has been fixed. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    using wikipedia as a work cited

    how to note wikipedia as a work cited

    Use Special:Cite, and type in the page you want to cite. Prodego talk 23:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    US BOWLING CONGRESS AFFILIATED CLUBS E-MAIL ADDRESSES

    TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: DOES WIKIPEDIA HAVE ACCESS TO E-MAIL ADDRESSES FOR THE VARIOUS US BOWLING CONGRESS PROFFESSIONAL CLUBS AND HOW WOULD I FIND THEM---- RICK

    Wikipedia does not have email addresses. Keeping emails displayed online can lead to spam. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 22:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    Warning Vandals

    I am curious as to whether anyone can post warnings on people's talk pages (assuming they have done something wrong, of course) or if that action is restricted to just admins. Zomic_13 22:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Please stop. If you continue to vandalise Wikipedia...

    This is your last warning.
    The next time you vandalize a page...

    Anyone can do that. Veinor (talk to me) 22:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    ok. Thanks. I saw the various temples on the vandalism page, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't overstepping any boundaries. Zomic_13 22:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Don't worry about making a mistake. We all do, and Wikipedia encourages people to be bold! If you do something wrong, someone will tell you. We were all newbs at one point, so don't worry as long as you're willing to learn. Dåvid Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 23:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Tv episodes that air in other countries.

    I have a question about american tv shows that air in other countries. If a new episode of a series such as Heroes (tv series) airs in Canada hours before it premires in the US, does it violate WP:A or WP:C to write a plot summary of the episode and to upload screenshots of the episode even though no one in America can verify this infomation? How can a single wikipedian from America verify the infomation like "a character dies" if they have to wait hours to see the episode while wikipedians from other countries get to have free reign over the new infomation gained from the episode? dposse 23:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The same question can be asked of shows that air in the U.S. first. Remember that Wikipedia is open to people around the world, so in those few hours, you'll have to rely on the people from outside the U.S. to maintain the article. Xiner (talk, email) 23:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Wikipedia is an international project (It's the English language Wikipedia; not the American Wikipedia). If a book is released in Australia, it can be used as a source, even if people in other places around the world have to wait 2-3 months or half a year to get their hands on the same book. The point is that a reliable editor can back it up, that doesn't mean it has to be an American. In fact, we can even cite sources few Americans will ever get to see: like Dutch newspaper articles. English language sources are preferred, but Dutch, German, French or Spanish ones are acceptable if they're the only alternative. - Mgm|(talk) 00:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    February 27

    Aerial Photos

    Are there any places I can get a free aerial photo to use in an article? Or, if not, would images from Google Maps, etc. be fair use for an article about a geographic place? (Mackinac Island) Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 00:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Maybe you could try NASA World Wind? That's PD, although I'm not sure how detailed the images are; see their site for some screenshots. Hope this helps. Niels|en talk-nl talk (faster response)| 00:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The map situation on Wikipedia is currently less than ideal. See m:Maps for some ongoing efforts to improve things. As to what data you can use, that depends on where the location is. Mackinac Island is in the United States, so you may be in luck; free map data tends to be more available for locations in the US than in many other developed countries, for example, because the U.S. government does not copyright its works. The US government is remarkably progressive when it comes to giving away map data. However, note that Mackinac Island already links to a page of map links; click on the infobox entry: Coordinates 45°51′40″N, 84°37′50″W. Is that page of links not enough? --Teratornis 00:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Upon further reflection, I have these ideas:
    1. The map thumbnail in the Mackinac Island article infobox links to: Image:Mackinac.png which does look a bit plain. USGS Digital raster graphic files look much better (for example, compare to: Image:Topographic map example.png), and DRG files are in the public domain. Perhaps Mr.Z-man would feel motivated to upload the DRG file for this location, cropped and centered, and replace the existing infobox thumbnail with it.
    2. Wouldn't it be great if we could upload all the DRG files to Wikimedia Commons? Then someone could write a template that takes a coordinate pair, and returns a cropped centered thumbnail of the DRG containing that location. Ah yes, I can dream.
    3. While the infobox entry: Coordinates 45°51′40″N, 84°37′50″W already does link to a page full of map links, the link itself in the infobox may be too subtle and unobvious for the inexperienced Wikipedia reader. The map thumbnail just above the coordinates link is much more visually compelling, and might act as a red herring to cause some unfamiliar readers to overlook the rich trove of unadvertised map links. I'm trying to think of tasteful a way to make the coordinates link sell itself better. How about adding some informative mouseover ("alt") text to it? For example: "For more map links, see: http://..." Currently the mouseover text is just the default, which is the rather uncompelling URL. However, Help:Link#"Hover box" on links does not tell how to change this text, and such a change would be to the infobox template, and these types of infobox templates appear widely. It would be best to discuss such a change with the people who maintain these templates.
    --Teratornis 16:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Okay, I managed to get a better map, and I found out how to do mouseover text. The problem was that the coordinates are already a template with another template in it, both full-protected. I just subst'd both templates and inserted the text inside it, then copied it all back into the infobox. See here for info on how to do it with other links. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 03:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Gennessee

    I would like to start an article with the headline Gennessee and this is already used as a township in Minnesota can I still create this article?

    If the "Gennessee" that you're writing the article about is notable enough to warrant an article, then yes. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation to see how to differentiate between the two articles. Dismas|(talk) 00:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    Warning / Reporting

    What is the template tag for this box? Thanks in advance! Zomic_13 01:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Your repeated efforts to vandalize articles makes it seem that you are unaware that Wikipedia is a serious project. You have been reported to the administration group for continuing vandalism and an administrator will review your contributions shortly. You may not receive another warning before being blocked, so be careful and be serious from now on. If you are blocked, please reconsider your behavior once the block expires.

    {{Non-admin fwarn}} *Mishatx*-In\Out 02:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Does this automatically alert an admin, or is another step required to alert an admin? Zomic_13 03:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You need another step. You only post this template after they've continued to vandalize after receiving a proper set of warnings and after you've alerted the admins. You alert the admins by listing the vandal at WP:AIV by following the steps listed there. delldot talk 04:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    HELP ME PLEASE

    I am being harrased on the Inuktitut Wikipedia and there is a homophobic vandal insulting me accusing me of recruiting homosexuals and breaking the law and trying to intimidate me that Jimbo Wales is going to shut iu-wp down if i dont do as he says. he has used lots of homphobic rhetoric and has violated many rules, 3rr and erasing comments on his talk page, i am basically the only editor on that edition, the sole native speakers and there are some english speaking admins but theyre not around the main one thogo has his internet down for the week, i need help, there is no semiprotection or protection templates made yet and this is an unregistered user who is not a speaker or writer and has made no contributions except removing any images depicting same sex kissing, hugging or sex from articles such as kiss, love, and the category for sex he says its against the rules and pornographic but he has even touched the oral sex or sex articles which show heterpsexual sex as examples. has called me names, immoral, decadent, accused me of being gay which i am not, and says im trying to recurit gays, he has also replaced images with low quality pictures of a boy-girl kiss for every circumstance and also a very very small picture of a heart which cant be made larger, and he removed the captions to the old pictures, there is not much content per article and inuktitut is in danger of extintion as it is a declining native language, and hes removing text. i have tried to talk to him but he is unresponsive, the only thing i did wrong to my knowledge was unknowingly put an explicit image to represent the sex category on the main page, he told me i was breaking the law and i would be reported and left the section blank and with no other picture, so i the picture was that of a woman performing fellatio on a man, a real photograpgh from commons, so i put in what i thought was more appropriate a french paintign of a two men having sex with a naked woman fanning in an egyptian palace withj pyramids in the backround, mind you that the image was a thumbnail betwen 65 and 85 px and you couldne even see the penis really, so i was told that wikipedia is not censored, except the main page, he added a picture or a boy-girl kiss but i thought it was crappy and unrepresentative of the category sex so i chose a non graphic image of a japanese painign showing a two men having sex with only a small glimps betwen the robe, not genitals or butt are visible and they are otherwsie fully clothes, some pubic hair is noticeable on the penetrqator when you blow the image up, tgere is a woman observing, furthermore he is making me feel very uncomfortable, im pretty sure that pic is okay "good faith" and if not i had another picture in mind which might be even better two people supposedly having sex another painting from japan but nothing can be seen they are fullow robbed they could be wrestling, they could be having sex or touching each other and you cant quite tell if theyre men women or a man and woman, alltho they are men, that image would be even less controvertial. i dont know what to do please help me. i am User:Qrc2006 on the Inuktitut Wikipedia PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME what can i do? how can this be resolved? see him here71.142.68.229 03:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Qrc2006, that sounds like a bad situation, but not impossible to deal with. I do have a few suggestions. First, stay cool. You're really upset about this: take a breather, some time off maybe. Realize that it is not the end of the world, whatever happens. The threats aren't credible, so just ignore them. Don't resort to edit warring yourself; be the more mature party. Second, bring this up with other sincere users. This is a content dispute. Though I have no knowledge of that wikipedia, I imagine it has somewhat similar dispute resolution processes as we have. Learn about the dispute resolution process and engage in it. Maybe they have something similar to WP:AN/I. You're right that Wikipedia's not censored and the user shouldn't be letting their own values affect the content; other users will see this and take your side. Bring the issue up with them in a calm, rational way. Provide diffs to back up your claims about what the person is doing: go into the history of a page, find the edit that the person made that you want to refer to, click on the "last" button, copy the text in the URL bar and paste it within [brackets] to provide the evidence of what they're doing. Also, consider toning down your language. You come across as kind of panicky, and that may turn users off. I'm glad to help further, but I don't speak the language. Leave me a message on my talk page if you have any questions or want to discuss anything. delldot talk 04:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Bradley University sites redirect to wiki search for Lydia

    I was just wondering if anybody could explain to me why all of the sudden, anytime I try to visit bradley.edu/foodservice, bradley.edu/registrar, bradley.edu/campusorg etc. I am redirected to a wikipedia search for "Lydia" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.176.104.77 (talk) 04:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It sounds like someone may have compromised either your computer or Bradley University's computers. I suggest calling your school's helpdesk. *Mishatx*-In\Out 04:16, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    bradley.edu/foodservice/, bradley.edu/registrar/, and bradley.edu/campusorg/ all work fine. Veinor (talk to me) 04:17, 27 February 2007 (

    Not sure but try using www. in front of the rest of the URL. Type in www.bradley.edu/foodservice, for example. That worked for me.--Vbd (talk) 04:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Article name

    How do you reserve an article name?--Chuck Marean 05:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Reserve? What do you mean? Just add an article at the name. But if it doesn't meet Wikipedia's requirements, it might be deleted. *Mishatx*-In\Out 06:20, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You don't need to reserve an article name. Just write the article when you have enough information. Wikipedia:Naming conventions tells you about how artiles should be named. - Mgm|(talk) 09:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I created a page for Alan Cheuse, but it displays as "Alan cheuse." I tried re-editing the page, but the entry, "Alan cheuse," seems locked out of editing. How can I correct the capitalization?

    The article Alan cheuse seems normal: I just edited it. What happens when you try? You'll also be able to rename it in a few days. Notinasnaid 08:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for the reply. But look at the heading at the very top top of the entry. It reads "Alan cheuse" (the last name is not capitalized). In fact, even the name in the article link is not capitalized. But is there any way to edit that?

    • That's done by moving the article (to prevent vandalism it will take about 4 days for new users to get this tab). It is not correctly capitalized because you didn't do it when you created the article. Please make sure you watch out with capital letters when you create another article. If it hasn't been done already, I'll move the article for you.- Mgm|(talk) 09:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    New user problems

    I recently uploaded a file for the first time to Wikipedia. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Starker_and_Cheifetz.jpg) A few days after uploading it, I edited the text a bit, and now when I go to the file online, the text is in a long horizontal stream of text in a dotted box with a pink background. I realize this is probably a stupid question, but how can I get the text to be formatted as a "normal" paragraph.

    I also am wondering why the file has never come up when I do a search for Hamilton Cheifetz, the subject of the text, or for Starker and Cheifetz, the name of the image.

    Can someone help me please, and forgive my ignorance of such things?

    Hamilton Cheifetz

    Remove the extra spaces at the start of the lines, that should fix it. --WikiSlasher 06:33, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I think part of the problem is that you haven't created an article, or added the picture to an existing article. What you seem to have done is write a detailed commentary on the picture in the space that is designed for writing about licensing etc. Notinasnaid 08:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for your astute observations. How can I create an article instead of the thing I have somehow put together? User:Hamtone

    Just choose the title for your article, then go to the article of that title. If it already exists, you can edit it to include anything that you think is missing. If it does not exist, you will be asked to create it yourself. -- Lilwik 07:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Review admin/user

    Review admin/user, What does actually refer? Is it about WP:AN, where adimns are mostly involved. And that's why they become Review admin? How can an user be review user?--NAHID 07:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The featured article request page

    Edit: figured it out. Someone delete this, thanks. Peter1968 08:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Transwiki

    I am not sure if I have the right term, but I would like to propose that Chaincase be moved to wiktionary how do I go about it thanks --Matt 11:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    DB templates

    Is there any speedy deletion template that is the opposite of db-attack? What should be put on pages who's primary purpose is to say a particular person or group or so on is wonderful? Heliomance 11:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See WP:DELETE and WP:CSD, these pages list all the tags you can use for requesting deletion. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, odometer) 11:40, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Finding pending articles

    How do I find the page that lists articles pending approval that non-registered users have written? (I'm sorry that this is the second time I'm asking this, but I can't find my question on this page or any record of it on my user page!) Kdammers 11:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • Non-registered users are not allowed to post new articles in the main namespace to avoid the large amount of vandalism and nonsense that comes with it. Instead WP:AFC was created to handle such suggestions, which is where you will find that list. Make sure you read the instructions carefully so you know what to do when you come across a good suggestion. - Mgm|(talk) 12:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    To see a list of everything you've ever added to Wikipedia, click on the "my contributions" link at the top of the screen, just to the left of "log out". All pages which you've created and all edits which you've made, are on that list. The Transhumanist    16:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

    I looked at your contributions and found three entries in Wikipedia:Requested articles :

    1. [Crisostomo Martinez]
    2. [Lenora Piper]
    3. [Human Control]

    Is this what you were looking for? If you are confident that these articles should be created, then you, being an established editor, can create them yourself.

    I should also add that editors who consider requests for article creation need some rationale (usually initial article text) based on which they can decide whether or not the article is worth creating. If you just ask for an article to be created without providing a rationale, you are hoping that some editor who sees your request will know why the subject of the requested article should be included in Wikipedia. That's a long shot.

    --Richard 17:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I can't find my page

    I posted a page on 22nd Februray and still can not find it.

    I am not sure if I correctly posted the page.

    I created an account and then filled in the box supplied.

    Please help

    Matt Clark

    Stagecoach 12:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It looks like your only edits are to your user page and this help desk. You may find more about user pages at WP:UP. --Joshua Chiew 13:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Or maybe that page you made has been deleted, could you give us the name of the article? PeaceNT 13:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The article is written on my user page, is that wrong? Username is Stagecoach and article is headed as Stagecoach Theatre Arts. Stagecoach

    • No, it's not wrong to write an article on your userpage. It's actually encouraged so you can do some tweaking until you've perfected it to your liking, but it won't appear in the encyclopedia on its own. For that you'd have to post it to Stagecoach Theatre Arts. But before you do that, you should take a look at WP:COI and read why writing an article about an organization you're involved with is a bad idea. You also need to read up on verifiability. All material in Wikipedia needs to be referenced, so other people can check the accuracy of the information. WP:AFC has a wizard that will give you an idea about the most important things to remember, and you can always take a look at similar articles to get a feel on what should and shouldn't be included. The entry as it stands comes across as promotional. I'll drop you a welcome with some useful links on your talk page. - Mgm|(talk) 15:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    To see a list of everything you've ever added to Wikipedia, click on the "my contributions" link at the top of the screen, just to the left of "log out". All pages which you've created and all edits which you've made, are on that list. The Transhumanist   16:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

    You might also do well to consult Wikipedia guidelines on WP:notability and advertising before proceeding. Your "article" as it stands on your user page looks a lot like an advertisement of a company that is not very notable. I say "looks like" because there is no indication that it has been the subject of reporting by national or international media.

    As it stands, your "article" is a likely candidate for deletion if it were to be created. I am not even convinced that it is appropriate for your user page. Review WP:NOT for guidelines for what is and is not appropriate for Wikipedia.

    --Richard 17:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

    Just my two pence, but Stagecoach is highly notable in England. It is I believe the largest extra curricular performing arts training centre in the country, frankly I'm amazed it doesn't have an article already. Heliomance 18:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Userboxes

    I would normally ask this on the WikiProject Userboxes talk page, but they seem kind of inactive right now. When I remove fair use images from userboxes, do I have to tell the author? --The Dark Side 14:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You don't have to, but you should. It's obvious in such cases that the author doesn't know WP:FAIRUSE. Xiner (talk, email) 14:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    Concerning a similar issue, it's considered common courtesy to contact the main contributors/editors of a page which you tag or nominate for deletion. The Transhumanist   16:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Unisgned Comment

    What is the tag or code, used to sign someone elses unsigned comment?, I know i could just put their username at the end, but i would like to know how to use that tag one. thanks. - DTGardner 15:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It's {{Unsigned}}. To make a guess at a template name, enter "Template:" followed by your guess in the search box. If you've guess right, you'll go right to the page. By the way, Wikipedia's search feature can be used for searching Wikipedia's various namespaces, such as the template namespace. The complete name of the tag you wanted is called Template:Unsigned. The Transhumanist   16:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Namespaces searched by default

    The search only applies to the namespaces selected in the user's preferences. To search the other namespaces check or uncheck the tickboxes in "Search in namespaces" box found at the bottom of a search results page. Depending on the browser, a box may still be checked from a previous search, but without being effective any longer! To make sure, uncheck and recheck it.

    The Transhumanist   16:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

    Another way to find templates, is the all pages feature on the special pages menu (accessible from the sidebar's toolbox menu). See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=10


    I hope the above comments help you find the pages you are looking for faster and easier. The Transhumanist   16:33, 27 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

    The reliability of a citation

    An editor wanted to add a passage with using this citation in regards to addressing the theme of anarcho-primitivism in Fight Club. I've taken up discussion with him on the film article's talk page, and I've presented reasoning behind two points -- that the citation does not fit because it only mentions Fight Club in passing (at the very end of the webpage), and that the citation does not meet the criteria for reliable sources or verifiability. He still thinks the information should be included, so can those who have the time please review the edit, the citation, and our discussion on the talk page to share their opinion on the appropriateness of this information? —Erik (talkcontribreview) - 15:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Protecting Constantly Vandalized Pages

    How do I go about protecting a page that has been constantly vandalized for a while (literally every line alternates between vandalism and a revision). Thanks in advance! Zomic_13 16:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Go to WP:RFPP (Wikipedia:Requests for page protection), and place a request there for an administrator to protect the page. See Wikipedia:Protection policy and Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy (for if the vandalism's by anons) for more details. --ais523 16:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

    Copying pictures

    Is it possiblwe to copy some pictures or do I need a permission— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.240.27 (talkcontribs)

    You need permission, because Wikipedia can't use copyrighted material. You can follow the directions for asking permission at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission, but most pictures are made by Wikipedia editors and released under the GFDL. Leave me a message on my talk page if you have any questions or want to discuss anything. delldot talk 18:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You can copy pictures from Wikipedia by following the copyright instructions you get when you click on the picture; unless the image is fair use, you should be able to use it without permission (often, you will have to credit the source and/or keep track of the image's authorship history, and GFDL images must be stored together with a copy of the GFDL). Copying pictures to Wikipedia requires more than just permission; the image must be released under a free use licence. Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission explains how to request that an image is released under such a licence, but as delldot says most free use images on Wikipedia will have been self-made by Wikipedia editors and released under free licences. --ais523 18:41, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

    Hard to read

    Your site is informative, but I can't read it too long because of the color and the font. It's too hard to read. Please change it.

    You can change the color and font yourself, if you register, then change your preferences. Though to me I see a plain font in black on a white background, which is easy enough to read. Let us know if you have any more questions. Notinasnaid 20:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    is there any way you can create a favourites list of the articles you would like quick reference to? like a favourites in internet explorer

    thanks

    Well, you could always bookmark your favourite articles as favourites in internet explorer... ;-) --Maelwys 19:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Or add them to your watchlist Heliomance 20:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    By clicking the "watch" tab, next to edit this page at the top. · AO Talk 20:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding An Organization to Data Bank

    How do I go about adding an organization to the data bank?20:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)20:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)Jon

    Yes, I meant adding the organization I work for to the encyclopedia. Thanks for your help. 66.178.225.98 17:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC) Jon[reply]

    This discussion is informative. Xiner (talk, email) 17:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    information from copyrighted sources?

    I've been searching for this on wiki for a while but still can't find an answer. Can I write/extend an article using copyrighted information source if I just don't blindly copy all the stuff but rewrite/summarize it by my own words and publish name of used source ?

    Same question for images. Can I create an image/diagram containing same information but looking different as copyrighted image and release it under free license as my own work. Am I required to (or Should I) publish original image source ? --Miko3k 20:16, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    That's tricky. I'd say that both scenarios are fraught with dangers of copyright violations, since you're basically using large chunks of info from copyrighted sources. Xiner (talk, email) 20:20, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    This is not intended as legal advice. Understand something, though. Copyright, at least in the United States, does not protect facts, it only protects creative expression. For more information, see the Copyright Act. For example, 17 USC 102(b) states, "In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery, regardless of the form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied in such work." (That's what patent law is for.) So if you rewrite and summarize all in your own words, you are taking only the unprotected facts from the source. Xiner notes that this is "fraught with danger," and it is true that you can get in trouble if you aren't careful, you don't want to accidentally take the potentially copyrighted literary structure of the article along with the public domain factual information. Also, if you were to summarize a work of fiction by making a sort of Cliffs Notes version, you would probably wind up creating a derivative work which would be copyright infringement. The same analysis applies for your diagram question, but it is likely to be more difficult, depending on the diagram, to decide what part is pure fact and what part is expression. Hope this helps. Crypticfirefly 04:28, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, I've recently added a few links in various external links sections, only to have them removed. One of these was in the article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noein#External_links

    A couple of the editors to my site (http://www.tokidokijournal.com) have contacted you about this and have been told that links can't be added from sites that are fan published, and that they must be from an established business. As the owner of Tokidokijournal.com, I can assure you that we have been an established business in the states of Arizona for five years now. I can provide you with a copy of our tax license as well as business license, if you'd like to see it. The content of our site is of a proffesional nature, as we are in close contact with many of the companies whose products we review - and which are featured on your site. I'm sure that the information we can add to these articles will be very valuable to users of Wikipedia.com, and I hope that we can resolve this issue.

    Thank you for your time,
    Stephen
    Tokidokijournal.com

    • Thank you for your question. Please take a look at Wikipedia:External links. In particular, you should under no circumstances ever add a link to a site you run or are connected to to any article. You can, however, propose a site (on an article talk page), and allow the other editors to form a consensus about whether it is suitable. The sort of description you have made above a good start, though you should review the external links guidelines and provide specific examples which indicate why the site would be an asset to the articles. You should bear in mind that with millions of potential web sites selection may be both ruthless and arbitrary. In general, it is best not to propose more than one article at a time, partly so you can learn from the results, and partly to reduce concerns about a promotional campaign: Wikipedia editors try to be very careful to avoid links which exist to carry traffic to sites, rather than to meet our guidelines. I hope this information is helpful to you. Notinasnaid 20:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Help with citing sources and cleaning up entries

    I am new to Wikipedia, and I'm creating entries for historic homes in New England. I have read the help and instructions sections but have not been able to resolve these questions (perhaps because I'm not a computer programmer). My entry, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauport%2C_Sleeper-McCann_House, has been tagged by other users for not citing its sources and not meeting Wikipedia's quality standards. Here is my source: http://www.historicnewengland.org/visit/homes/beauport.htm, but I can't find instructions on posting external links (I thought that was frowned upon in the wiki-world?). Also, I can't clean up the entry without more specifics on what part does not meet Wikipedia's standards (the entry is factually and grammatically correct). Any suggestions? Thanks.

    Thanks for your question. First take a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources. This explains why, and then how, to cite. You may still find you have some questions, but it will start you off. Notinasnaid 20:33, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    In terms of cleaning up, probably the best thing to do is to read other articles and look at the style. There is a style guide, but it may be overkill at the beginning. For instance, you write Beauport, the summer home of the collector and interior designer Henry Davis Sleeper, was a house built in 1907 on the rocks overlooking Gloucester Harbor. I would expect to see something like, Beauport, a historic house in Gloucester, Massachusetts, was build in 1907-1934 as the summer home of the collector and interior designer Henry Davis Sleeper. It is on the rocks overlooking the Gloucester Harbor. Note the links, the bolding of the defined term, the rewording to provide a more direct definition first, the placing in a worldwide context, and the incorporation of details from Gloucester, Massachusetts. Phrases like its influence came to shape the way we view America's past will need detailed citation, and perhaps should be cast as a quote to maintain a completely neutral voice. Consider whether the article adds anything that isn't already in Gloucester, Massachusetts. Notinasnaid 20:44, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • external links and sources are different things. External links tend to be used for information that may be relevant, but unincludable due to other factors (copyright, too trivial, etc). The source you talk about, a source from Historic New England, is probably reliable as a source for the sites covered under its umbrella. So it is not an external link (external links are for material not included in the article, and you have used this material in the article). Even so, it would be preferable to use more than one source - perhaps you can contact them and find out whether any books have been written on the subject. ColourBurst 20:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    About Review Admin

    Then What does Review Admin mean? What they Do actually and where they involved?

    auto update clock

    How do I get this to work on a user page? Eg make it into a template? Unless there is one already existing. --Semper Fi, Darkest Hour 22:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    //
    
    //A clock that autoupdates
    //From the user scripts project
    addOnloadHook(loadclock)
    function loadclock()
    {
      //monobook
        if (document.getElementById('pt-userpage'))
          {
          var toplinks = document.getElementById('p-personal').getElementsByTagName('ul')[0];
          addlilink(toplinks, '/w/index.php?title=' + wgPageName.replace(/&/g,'%26') + '&action=purge', '', 'utcdate');
          }
      //cologneblue
        else if (document.getElementById('quickbar') && document.getElementById('quickbar').getElementsByTagName('h6')[0])
           {
           var toplinks = document.getElementById('quickbar');
           addquickbarlink('/w/index.php?title=' + wgPageName.replace(/&/g,'%26') + '&action=purge', 'Current time', 'utcdate','Browse')
           }
        showtime();
    }
    
    function showtime()
    {
        var timerID;
        var now = new Date();
        var timeValue = now.toUTCString().substring(0,22) + " UTC";
        if (document.getElementById('utcdate'))
          {document.getElementById('utcdate').firstChild.innerHTML = timeValue;}
        timerID = setTimeout('showtime()', 1000);
    }
    //END
    
    You can't, it is javascript for your user js. Prodego talk 22:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You can do it, but not with javascript. Try:

    <span class=plainlinks>[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} {{CURRENTDAYNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}} {{CURRENTTIME}} (UTC)]</span>

    It won't auto-update every second, but the result is:

    Monday 12, 2024 07:02 (UTC)

    Not bad, I think. If you need any other date formatting, tell me, or check out WP:MAGIC and do it yourself. Hope this helps... GracenotesT § 01:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Ah!

    How do I get this to stay at the bottom of my talk page? [[#content|Top]] = Top. --Semper Fi, Darkest Hour 23:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You can't place it at the bottom of the wikitext, but you can use CSS to have it stuck to the bottom margin of the page. You'd want to put the following at the top of your user page:
    • <div style="position: absolute; bottom:.25em;">[[#content|Top]]</div>
    If you want further modification of this basic CSS code (like centering, color, etc.) just ask. GracenotesT § 01:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Template to Encourage a User to Create an Account

    I've seen this around, but I am unsure what the tag is. It creates a box encouraging an IP user to create a registered account. It is commonly used on IP's that are from public places, etc. Any help would be great. Thanks! Zomic_13 23:32, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    {{subst:anon}} Xiner (talk, email) 23:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    February 28

    Your edit includes new external links. To help protect against automated spam, please enter the words that appear below in the box (more info)

    Please tell me this is just a temporary measure to fight an increase in spam, it's annoying as hell and I've already hit it twice in the last hour--VectorPotentialTalk 00:09, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I wonder if it has to do with your account's age, and suspect that it's a new measure for new users. Xiner (talk, email) 00:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    New users, with accounts created in under 5 days, usually get this warning. It is a nuisance but im pretty sure it will go away once you wait for five days. Its probably a safety precaution to avoid spamming --K.Z Talk Vandal Contrib 05:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Seems like a wonderful way to chase away new users--VectorPotentialTalk 16:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The encyclopedia

    Hi i was currently viewing encyclopedias on the internet and in books i have and nowhere in a normal encyclopedia have i ever found a "crime" section or an "abortion" section. I was currently viewing the people that are a part of the Central America project and i think that it would be a much better idea if everyone was just asigned to contribute to a certain country only one. I thought about that when i looked at one in particular he user name i believe is "lanicoya" she wants to put a crime section for el salvador and she already has an abortion one on there my question is Managua is know for being dangerous and Nicaragua also does not allow abortions so why is she being allowed to trash the El Salvador article she says so herself in her sentence she wrote all she knows is Nicaragua she doesnt know El Salvador like i do and like everyone that lives there and is from there, my idea i think is brilliant it doesnt look like she wants to contribute in a positive way but in a negative way and as a contributor i can't work with that. Im sure i can find articles about crime and gangs in Nicaragua and also about abortions but i didnt want to contribute to Nicaragua but to El Salvador but if she wants to trash that article i will gladly find my sources and also create a crime section among corruption in Nicaragua. This is an encyclopedia look at these other ones they have no such sections: [3] [4] [5] [6] Honestly take a look at these encyclopedias, they ae model and professional encyclopedias were not just anyone can write their own personal opinion and because someone doesnt like El Salvador they are going to make it the worst article ever. Wikipedia from a point of view looks no offense like its being created by kids it doesnt look professional anyone can just sign in and edit, it does not seem reliable and if this site will contain an article about El Salvador i will make it the best or if anyone can just mess it up and put in what they think of the country i would much rather have the article taken off and suggest other more reliable encyclopedias to people doing searches on countries. Every single country has crime if you havent heard or read the news Guatemala tops El Salvador in crime this year and the end of 2006. Please feel free to contact meGuacamaya

    Learn interpunction and spelling first, maybe someone will be inclined to answer you after you've accomplished that. Damned Americans, they can't do anything right :-P. Terribly sorry, but for me, as a second language English-speaker, your message is not intelligible. Please reformat it, using commas and proper interpunction etc., so that everyone can read it. Niels|en talk-nl talk (faster response)| 04:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Indeed anyone can edit Wikipedia. But you seem to be taking the view that there was once a good reliable encyclopedia, and then we allowed just anyone to edit it. That is not the case: there was nothing, then we allowed people to edit that nothing, and now we have an encyclopedia which is not too bad, and has over a million articles. Some people think that we should now change the rules, they take the view that the work is now done and the encyclopedia should be locked from all edits. Others disagree. Of course, people sometimes try to convey their point of view that things are bad in an article. Also, sometimes people try to remove mention of bad things because they are proud of the subject. Wikipedia has policies to ensure there is a balance: see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Notinasnaid 09:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    password trouble

    i typed in the new password you gave me ,and it is not letting me log in ?

    Edit Summary Statistics

    On a wikipedia edit summary, is it possible to get a count of the number of edits and unique editors that have contributed to a given article? Please let me know ASAP! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.69.208 (talkcontribs)

    Please see Wikipedia page history statistics.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    THanks!

    how to use wikipedia

    how do I use wikipedia----

    Can you be more specific? What do you want to do? — Deon555talkdesksign here! 04:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Help on template formatting

    I am currently working on creating a template, but need the assistance of someone who actually knows how they operate. I've essentially tried to reverse-engineer an existing template to modify it for a similar purpose, but am not certain that it will work (or rather, I understand enough about templates to be almost certain that it will not work in the way I want it to). I would like to post the source code of the template so that an editor could review it and see if the problem can be overcome. Where is the appropriate place to post it? Here? WP:VPT? A user's talk page? -- Black Falcon 04:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Just post the name of the template you're working on and we can go look at / fix the source directly. *Mishatx*-In\Out 04:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! The template is located at Template:Oldcfdfull. Essentially, I am trying to create a template that would serve as the equivalent of {{oldafdfull}} for categories titled Template:oldcfdfull (for consistency with the AfD version). However, I cannot just use the source code of {{oldafdfull}} by just replacing "afd" with "cfd" as the archiving systems for AfD and CfD discussions are different.
    The major problem I see is with [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/{{#if:{{{date|}}}|{{{date}}}}}#{{{page|{{{votepage|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}|the discussion]]. Firstly, I'm not sure that's even accurate (this is the first time I've ever edited a template's source code--my prior editing experience to templates is limited to their content only). Secondly, AfD debates are archived as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PageName, whereas CfD debates are kept as Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/Year Month Day#PageName. So, it is necessary to somehow include the date of the nomination in the link to the CfD debate in the specific order: Year Month Day. Could you help, please?
    Note: There is an additional complication in that CFD archives prior to January 1, 2007 are prefixed [[Wikipedia:Categories for deletion:]] instead of "discussion". The only working solution I can think of (with my limited knowledge of template creation/editing) is to create a separate template, say for instance {{oldcfdfull-del}} in which "discussion" is replaced with "deletion".
    If the concept of the template is fundamentally flawed or impractical, please let me know and I will {{db-author}} the page. Thank you in advance for any help you can give, Black Falcon 05:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd suggest that {{cfdend}} might be a better template to reverse-engineer in this case, as it's designed for use with the CfD archiving system. If you're not sure what a certain template markup will do, you can test it in the template sandboxes ({{X1}} through {{X9}}) and use the Sandbox itself to try transcluding and substing it. --ais523 11:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
    This sounds fascinating, Black Falcon. I'd be glad to help program the template, since I have an idea about how to go about it (plus the deletion/discussion thing), but can't implement it right now (in several hours, though, when I'm back on a computer). GracenotesT § 14:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Archiving Talk Pages

    Could someone help/tell me how to archive my user page?

    Thanks

    --Longhornsg 05:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Take a look at Wikipedia:Archiving a Talk Page, there it's explained pretty well :) FrancoGG ( talk ) 05:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    RSS feed for watchlist

    How can I get a RSS feed for my watchlist?Does Wikipedia provide a such a feed? If not, is there a way to create one? -Myth (Talk) 08:09, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    As long as you're logged in (or have used the 'remember me' option on your login), http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=feedwatchlist might be what you're looking for. --ais523 10:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
    Will give it a try. Thanks. -- Myth (Talk) 21:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    IP address

    If I contribute from an IP address then how can I understand I've got a message. Will it be appeared You've got new message, as like an registared user?--NAHID 13:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • It used to work that way, currently however, If an IP receives a message their message bar won't appear until after they clear their browser cache, once they receive it, it won't go away until they once again clear their browser cache. I imagine the developers made some sort of change to the default monobook assigned to anon IPs and this was a side effect. The implication is that in the mean time, it's almost impossible to contact an IP via their talk page --VectorPotentialTalk 13:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm confused. If it is almost impossible to contact an IP address via their talk page, then what's the point of posting vandalism warnings or a {{subst:anon}} greeting?--Vbd (talk) 16:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd guess that most people don't realize that the new messages banners don't work right for anons anymore, since most people don't tend to edit while logged out, and as far as anons go, they tend to get ignored more often than not, at least in my experience, so there's not much use in an IP trying to file a bug report. Besides, it's only been for the last month or so, I'm sure at some point a developer will track down the glitch and correct the problem, assuming they're aware of it --VectorPotentialTalk 17:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    the use of 'Although'

    1. Which is a better statement? A. Although she was sick, Mrs Tan went to work. or B. Although Mrs Tan was sick, she went to work. (Should we use the proper pronoun in the main clause or sub. clause when we use 'although'.)

    2. We are given these 2 sentences and asked to rewrite them into 1 sentence using 'whose'. I would like to know if the following answers are acceptable. Given: The owner of the dog was fined in court. His dog had bitten a maid. Ans A) The owner whose dog had bitten a maid was fined in court. Ans B) The dog whose owner was fined in court had bitten a maid.

    3. Given : Mr Lee is the supervisor. You need to see him if you are looking for a job. Rewrite these sentences into 1 using 'whom' Ans A) Mr Lee whom you need to see if you are looking for a job is the supervisor. Ans B) The supervisor whom you need to see if you are looking for a job is Mr Lee. Is there a difference between the 2 answers. Which is acceptable?

    How to remove a tag.

    Hi. Another user tagged a section of an article that I had worked on, stating that it did not cite its sources (the other user is associated with Larouche, and this is not just a neutral tag, but I'll let that rest for now). Anyway, I have now provided extensive sourcing to the section, but the tag is still there. My question is how tags get removed, and by whom....

    Thanks,

    Nandt1 13:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    If you've added enough references to merit the tag's removal, then you can remove it yourself. Just find the part contained in two curly braces, like this: {{unreferenced}} and delete it. Let us know if you need anything else. Hersfold (talk/work) 13:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Though it's irritating to have your work peppered with "citation needed" tags, it is an absolute rule that everything be sourced in Wikipedia, so the other editor was probably doing the right thing. It's just not done nearly enough so it can look like an article is being singled out. If you are satisfied the section/article is adequately sourced (i.e., reading the sources will support every word in the section), just remove the tag, stating clearly what you are doing and why in the edit summary. If you suspect it may be disputed, first indicate your intention in the article talk page, to allow a consensus of editors to decide. Notinasnaid 13:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Reference from another wikipage

    We know that we can't use another wikipage as refernce or citing footnotes in an article page. But I noticed some WP:Policy page contains Jimbo Wales's quotation with the reference / footnote taken from another wikipage (Example:Wikipedia:User page, Here Jimbo wales's quotation's been founded ). Why this happens? Is it right--NAHID 13:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • You can't use other wikipedia pages to cite articles. But since it is about a policy all the relevant citations will be wikipedia pages. Policy is formed on the wiki, so that's where sources will be. Quotations from Jimbo about a certain policy are entirely appropriate to cite in a policy page. - Mgm|(talk) 14:05, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Do not copy text from other websites without permission. It will be deleted

    Avobe statement appeared at the middle of an edit page. But how can I take permission from another website for using their texts. Wikipedia:Example requests for permission, it deals with only image permission. If I get the permission for using texts then where I mentioned its permission link? In article's discussion page? Or where? For using How many sentences do I need to get the permission? Is it compulsory to mention permission link here (Wikipedia:Successful requests for permission).

    P.S.

    If a paragraph is taken from another website then does the user need to mention the reference line by line? I noticed some articles contain 2 or 3 sentences even more sentences that is directly taken from another website. Aren't they falling in copyvio? Is it okay If I take some sentences (without any reference, if the sentences aren't likely to be challanged) from another website to create/improve the article? (And other materials are written / rewritten by myself). How many sentences can I take from another website? --NAHID 13:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    P.S.2

    After getting permission for using an image where I need to mention the permission link? Image talk page or my talk page? this image Image:Bashundhara city.jpg says that the photo is using with the permission of creator's and the uploader's waiting for another user's respond. I found successful requests for permission here Wikipedia:Successful requests for permission. An example: Wikipedia:Successful requests for permission/Sam's Exotic Travels. Is it okay If write the link Wikipedia:SRP/Sam's Exotic instead of full sentences. This image Image:Charsolomon TProskouriakoff.jpg description page says it got the permission and mail archieve is in wikimedia dot org (What's the web link of wikimedia dot org) If I post the successful permission link in Wikipedia:Successful requests for permission then should I also post it in wikimedia dot org. Or else Can I choose any one of them?--NAHID 13:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Although it is possible in theory for some sites to get permission to use their text (which must be released under a free license), it is not usually a good idea. The reasons include
    1. Writing on other sites rarely is in the necessary enclopedia style, so rewriting is desirable.
    2. There is no easy way to mark the permission on the text, so there will often be users who think they have found a copyright problem.
    3. Once the information was copied from the other site it would begin to be changed by other editors, so keeping track of the original information becomes difficult.
    4. Most web sites are not a "reliable source" in Wikipedia terms.
    For all these reasons, articles should be written in your own words, using sources. Small sections of other sites may sometimes be quoted: this is different from copying. Do not copy any piece of text, no matter how small, unless it is marked as a quote. You cannot make an article by joining quotes together: I would be surprised if quotes were more than 5% of an article.
    You wrote "without any reference, if the sentences aren't likely to be challenged". Sorry, references are needed in all cases. Most articles do not yet follow Wikipedia standards, but one day they must, or they will be deleted.
    Sorry, I don't know about image permissions. Notinasnaid 14:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    Creating a WIKI

    We are constructing a company WIKI and are looking for useful guidelines to make it a success, so what makes a good WIKI? 194.201.250.209 14:01, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wiki is not an acronym, so we write it as an ordinary word. As to what makes a good wiki, a wiki is as good as its user community makes it. Wikipedia has one of the best user communities you will find on any wiki, and the result is an exceptionally well-developed wiki. Starting your own corporate wiki from scratch requires identifying the core group of people in your company who will spend many hours learning wiki editing, designing templates, training new users (probably most if not all employees at your company will be new to wikis), writing pages, and cleaning up the first efforts of new users. Ideally, your core group of serious editors should have fairly extensive experience editing (at least 500 to 1000 edits) on at least one well-established wiki (such as Wikipedia, and others), so they understand what they are trying to build with their corporate wiki, and they know how to copy templates, etc., from wikis such as Wikipedia to save effort. At a bare minimum, you need one person with that level of wiki experience (perhaps you? perhaps an outside contractor you would recruit from, say, the Wikipedia community?), who has spent some time learning from experienced wiki users in the larger world outside your company. Above all, be patient, and just keep plugging away at your wiki. Busy employees may take a long time to wikify their pre-wiki work habits. Identify some easy applications that employees are likely to use (such as: an employee schedule, contact information, etc.). Any documents your company is currently distributing as e-mail attachments, for example, should go straight onto the wiki. That will clean some junk out of everyone's e-mail inboxes and allow everyone to update one canonical copy. Some references: b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki (more about public wikis rather than corporate wikis), and Using Wikis in a Corporate Context. Also see structured wiki and TWiki, if you are interested in building wiki applications in addition to building a Wikipedia-type corporate knowledgebase. --Teratornis 17:39, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Clarification of edit war and 3rr rules

    I've noticed a pattern of edit warring on black people and was wondering if there is a way to request admin intervention on the article. Noone has broken 3rr yet, but there is a pattern of warfare occuring there. Kyaa the Catlord 14:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Nobody else seems to have answered, so I'll take a semi-educated stab. Disclaimer: I've never done what you are asking for, so I'm just looking for "TFM" to "R" (as in RTFM). One of the easier ways to find out how to do pretty much everything around here is to look on User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia. So, let's gander our eye there and see what we find. A local browser search for "intervention" in the page leads to: Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism (WP:AIV); maybe that's what you need. --Teratornis 03:49, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    On second thought, if the problem you are having is not exactly vandalism, maybe you need: Wikipedia:Administrator's noticeboard/Incidents - for complex cases where WP:AIV is inadequate (WP:AN/I). The odds are that whatever you are supposed to use is probably somewhere on John Broughton's index; if not, then we can add it. --Teratornis 03:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Create account - username problem

    Hi. I tried to make an account but every time I get an error: Login Error: The username was not valid (or something like that). The trouble is, every time the page came back, I had to totally fill out the form again. This was very annoying because I didn't know what was a valid username and each time I had to type the contents of the image, try a new username, type in a password twice and my email address. I think this is a horrible process which put me off making an account. However, on the last attempt before giving up I filled out the form with the first username I had chosen and strangely it worked. The only difference was that I didn't tick the "remember me" tick box. Thanks

    About Vandalism warning

    If an user get several vandalism warning (assume good faith 1, assume good faith 2, assume bad faith....) at the first time when he's just been volunteered, hence will it be a barriar for him to become an admin in future?? (suppose the user understands the policy and assuming good faith)--NAHID 14:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you asking if recieving vandalism warnings will hurt a request for adminship? Like bad debts, the effects of vandalism warnings decrease with age and good deeds. Someone who was warned or even banned early in their wikipedia career might still pass RfA if they can show that they have turned around, and some time has passed. Someone with recent violations likely will not pass RfA. *Mishatx*-In\Out 14:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    references

    what are acceptable references? Can pdf files and videos(youtube or files) be linked to an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graciemiami (talkcontribs)

    Please see WP:RS. Pdf file is fine, but you cannot use references from youtube since anything can be made up at that website. PeaceNT 15:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I would think it would depend on what you are linking a YouTube file of, and why. Crypticfirefly 04:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Edits made, but IP address recorded rather than Login name

    Hi,

    I made 3 edits to the Sete Gibernau page, but on looking at the Recent History page, I noticed that my login name (Saltation) had not been recorded, but rather my current IP address. Which appears to have been someone else's a while back...

    Is it possible for someone to chown the edits to my login name?

    They were 2007.02.28 :

    - 14:36 -- Retirement - improve language, add Kawasaki offer, add quote
    - 14:38 -- 2006 MotoGP season - additional Catalunya info due to career importance
    - 15:41 -- 2006 MotoGP season - added reference: injuries & ambulance accident
    

    cheers

    Saltation 16:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Accounts haven't been reattributed like that for years. The cause is probably that your browser got confused about its cookies and logged you out by mistake; choosing the 'remember me' option when logging in tends to prevent such problems (and see the FAQ at the top of the technical village pump if it doesn't). Hope that helps! --ais523 16:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


    curses! still, thanks for the prompt and lucid response.
    my browser SAID it was logged in as me at the time (before, during, and after), so like you said, it was probably just having temporal emotional issues.
    WORKAROUND: i added a pseudo ("nbsp") mod so i could add an Attribution note. whee! Saltation 17:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Sandbox and Sub userpage

    What's the difference between Sandbox and Subpage? If there is no difference then why they are in separate name? How can an user delete his sandbox?--NAHID 13:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Sand box and subpage 2

    Is there any problem If I use my sandbox as a subpage or subpage as a sandbox?? How can I delete my sandbox?? I know the deletion tag for Userpage/subpage is {{db-userreq}}. If I want to delete my sandbox then which deletion template is appropriate??--NAHID 16:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Using a user subpage as a sandbox is fine (for instance, I have User:ais523/Sandbox). You can delete any page in your own userspace that you've created, within reason, by placing {{db-userreq}} on it (whether it's a sandbox or not). Hope that helps! --ais523 16:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

    Sandbox and subpage 3

    Then can I use my sandbox as a subpage??--NAHID 16:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Just start typing in User:NAHID/sandbox or something. A sandbox is just a regular page with a special name. Xiner (talk, email) 16:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How do i move/rename a page?

    I've read this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rename_a_page but i can't find the "move" tab near the top of the page, and i'm using the default skin...

    please help thanks...

    Your account has to be at least 4 days old to rename pages. If you want to rename a page before then, you can ask at requested moves, here, or the assistance village pump. Hope that helps! --ais523 16:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

    Post-check user activity

    If a sock puppeteer is discovered, reported and verified via check user, what should an editor expect afterwards? Will the sock puppeteer be immediately investigated, any blocks/banning imposed on his socks or what? It seems logical that once a sock-puppeteer is found, the admin who does the check user would immediately investigate the activity of that puppeteer and block the accounts in question (and based on the templates associated with it, this would seem to be the intent), but is this actually done in practice? Kyaa the Catlord 16:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    One common practice is for the CheckUser in question to block all the sockpuppets, but to take no action on the puppeteer. That's left for other administrators to decide, based on the CheckUser's verdict that the accounts are related. Often, the puppeteer isn't blocked immediately (if they weren't blocked before hand), but the details factor back into whatever discussion prompted the check in the first place (often on the admin's noticeboard, admin's incident noticeboard, or community noticeboard). --ais523 16:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
    Thanks. Just curious. I requested a check user yesterday and I don't believe any of the socks were blocked (although 23 hours later, the puppeteer was finally blocked for 3rr). Should I bring this to ANI for oversight? Kyaa the Catlord 16:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Upload image

    I just have read about the fairuse image policy but I still disgest a part of it. An image that I find on Google, then I quote its source will make it a fairuse image? Appleworm 16:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    That's not enough to make the image includable on Wikipedia. The image has to meet all the fair use criteria; there must be no free use version available, it mustn't undermine the market role of the original image, it should be as low-resolution as reasonable (so you might have to reduce the resolution yourself), it must have been previously published, it must be encyclopedic, it must meet the image use policy, it must contribute significantly to the articles in which it is used (and must be used in at least one article), it shouldn't be used except in articles, and it must be properly sourced, attributed, and tagged, with a fair use rationale given. --ais523 16:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
    First, you have to know the source: you have to be sure that the person who put the image on their site made the picture, or has permission to use it. Many pictures you find will just be copied without permission. Google doesn't have the pictures, it just searches for them.
    Then, fair use is a justification: a reason why we can ignore the copyright of an image. The justification must be very strong, and follow legal rules. Wikipedia is full of people who think that "fair use" is a magic way of using any picture they find for any purpose, but the images mostly get deleted in the end. You should in general avoid fair use and seek a genuinely free image, which is hard: most articles will never be illustrated.
    If you have a particular idea of image and article, that's probably the best thing: let us know the image and article, and we can try to walk through the process of making the decision. Notinasnaid 16:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    So if I download the picture to my PC and then I adjust a bit by some graphic softwares, will the image become mine? Appleworm 16:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    That depends, I believe, on how much you edit the image. Simply tweaking the colors a bit doesn't, but using a small part of it in a much larger original work I think does make it yours. However, I am not a lawyer. Again, I'd really suggest getting a totally free image (or making one from scratch and then releasing it under Creative Commons or GFDL.) Veinor (talk to me) 17:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Nothing you can do simply would make it yours. Think of images as like books. If you bought a copy of the latest Harry Potter book, could you sell photocopies? Type it in and sell it as your own? Type it in, make a few changes, and sell it? Sell single chapters? No to all of these. Images are every bit as legally protected: they are just very easy to put on the internet. Notinasnaid 17:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Posting Information

    I am a Senior citizen and not real computer savy first off. I am interested to learn if this is the site where individuals can post their accomplishments in life and others can look up a person and learn about them. I would like to look up some people but don't know where to start.

    Thank you in advance, but I'm not sure how I will hear from you since we are not to post our address.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.5.53.33 (talkcontribs).

    Generally, replies to help desk inquiries are made on the help desk itself. In addition, each user has a talk page that can be used to communicate with them on Wikipedia-related matters. Mine is U ser talk:Veinor, and yours is User talk:76.5.53.33 (until you create an account). As for information on how to find other people, the simplest way is to enter the search term in the box on the left-hand side of the screen and then click search.
    Also, please note that there are criteria for who does and does not merit a Wikipedia article, and posting an article about yourself is highly discouraged. You are, however, free to create an account and post a small biography of yourself on your userpage. Veinor (talk to me) 17:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Please see WP:COI, WP:NPOV, WP:N, WP:V, as well as what others have posted here. Wikipedia isn't for showing off anyone to others, but to provide encyclopedic info, which you're more than welcome to help with. Xiner (talk, email) 17:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    The short answer to your question is, no. You might be thinking of some other site, but I'm afraid I don't know which. You can, however, look things and people up by typing the name in the search box to the left and clicking Go. However, the information should only be there if the person is notable and discussed in published sources. Skittle 22:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Where to go to discuss wikipedia rules?

    Wikipedia has many rules in regards to adding information, where does one go to discuss specific ones?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by LordArthas (talkcontribs).

    On the talk page of that rule's page (to discuss the external link guidelines, for example, go to Wikipedia talk:External links). Veinor (talk to me) 17:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Each rule on Wikipedia has a page, such as Wikipedia:Deletion policy. You can discuss a rule by going to its Talk ('discussion') page, for instance Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy. You can also discuss policy and other rules at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). Hope that helps! --ais523 17:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

    Emails as sources?

    Hello, I am writing a Wiki article on the English luthier, John Birch. There is not very much published information on him, so I have been talking to people who knew him, who own his guitars, who worked with/for him, and the man who currently runs his guitar shop. It is all very necessary info regarding the article, as it gives insight into Birch's personal history, as well as the history of his company and customers. However, I'm not sure how to cite the emails in the context of the Wikipedia. There are no personal views I am trying to espouse, I am just trying to give an accurate history of the man and his work. The article is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paulkstadden/article.

    Paulkstadden 17:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Bad news, I'm afraid: you cannot use information obtanied in this way. All information must be verifiable, e.g. by reading a book, or a reliable web site. Information not published cannot be used in Wikipedia, no matter how important, true, or interesting. See Wikipedia:Verifiability. Notinasnaid 17:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) The emails would have to be published somewhere else first; the problem is that if you use the emails and they aren't published anywhere, readers won't be able to verify the article for themselves (see the policy about original research). As Wikipedia can be edited by anyone online, it's kind of important that the sources are publically accessable (although they don't have to be online) so that people can see for themselves that the article is accurate (and/or correct it if it isn't). --ais523 17:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

    So, if I post all the emails somewhere, put the links to them in the page, I could then use them? Paulkstadden 17:34, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Not necessarily. If others do not consider the emails verifiable or the source reliable, then they may remove the info. Xiner (talk, email) 17:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I posted the emails here: http://thepaulforum.blogspot.com/ They are from correspondence with John Carling, owner of John Birch guitars and former business partner of John Birch, from John Diggins, a very early employee of Birch, and from Ian Seaton of Rare Guitars, owner of a very rare original John Birch guitar. Paulkstadden 18:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Contact your local newspapers and see if any reporters are interested in writing about John Birch. Journalists make a living by trying to get at the truth about things. That's why the information you have in e-mail form would carry more weight after having been processed through a journalist and published in reputable media, to become a valid source for Wikipedia. Another option would be to contact some published authors who have written biographies of luthiers, and see if any would be interested in writing about John Birch. Do you have everything that has been published about John Birch? You could ask on the reference desk for help with a literature search on John Birch. You could also ask on Talk:Luthier. Actual human librarians are another option. Also check with your local historical society, educational television, university, etc., any organization that might have written or like to write about John Birch. --Teratornis 18:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for the suggestions, I will take them. I have looked high and low in various guitar books and all of the ones I have seen give the same information with little variation: John Birch was an English luthier who built custom guitars for various celebrities. That's about it. This article is actually the most info in one page on John Birch, at least as far as I have seen. However, I will ask the reference desk and the Talk:Luthier page. Paulkstadden 19:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    For what it is worth, I think that the policy that everything cited to must be published is a bit extreme. Some information just isn't published. Citation to unpublished materials is permissible in academic journals, it should be permissible here as well. The issue is making sure that the unpublished material is somewhere where someone could check it if they wanted to. For example, I see nothing wrong with citing to an unpublished diary in a library archive. Your problem is that the information came from personal correspondence. Again, and this is just my opinion, that you've posted it where others can access it and evaluate its reliability is a big point in its favor. Another option is to simply write your own article on John Birch, using your own research including the letters, and then get it published somewhere even if it is an obcure journal that just pays in free copies. You obviously can write, so why not? Then someone else can use your "acceptable source" to work on the Wiki page. Crypticfirefly 03:51, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    In the worst case, one can always invoke the ignore all rules guideline, and just throw articles out there on Wikipedia, to see if they "stick." If you don't mind the risk of feeding your work to deletionists, just go ahead and edit away. However, some people don't like to slave over articles just to watch them vanish; the best way to avoid this is to understand and follow as many of the Wikipedia article guidelines as possible, to soothe the deletionists' itchy trigger fingers. Wikipedia probably deletes more material than any other wiki; check the List of wikis for other wikis to edit on. There might be some wiki for guitarists (or musicians, etc.) that has more lenient policies. Here, let's search WikiIndex for "guitar"; that pops up: Wiki Guitar, GuitarWiki, etc. Perhaps Paulkstadden could develop the article in relative peace on a wiki that likes guitars, and then eventually try publishing it on the cruel world of Wikipedia when it's in encyclopedic shape. Having one's masterpiece deleted from Wikipedia doesn't sting quite so much when one has the material wikied up somewhere. --Teratornis 04:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Sandbox and Subpage Categorization

    Can I categotized my Sandbox and Subpage? For Ex. If I write an Test Article in Sandbox and Subpage, Then Can I put category ragrding on that Article (i.e. Category:Health book , Category:.......)? --NAHID 17:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    P.S. Also Can I create multiple sandbox for multiple articles or for further test.

    If you're preparing an article in a sub userpage, probabbly it would be better if you wait until your article is ready, move to the article's namespace and then cateogrize it, so the category won't be showing a userpage.
    And yes, you can create as many subpages as you need, as long as they are in your user space. FrancoGG ( talk ) 17:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Category like ordinary link.E.g. Category:Bridges and {{stub}} in this way, do I need to put? What if I put the category like [[Category:Bridges]] at the bottom of the page. If the sandbox / sub userpage is categorized or if they appeared in category then is it likely to be deleted?--NAHID 19:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You could put your category links, stub template, etc., inside an HTML comment (see: Help:HTML in wikitext and HTML element#HTML Comment), while you are editing the page as a user page. Then when you are ready to move the page to the default (main) namespace, you can remove the HTML comment tags, and your various links and templates will "go live." --Teratornis 22:05, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia style

    In the controversial article that I work on, an opponent tends to find damning quotes in newspapers and insert them into the article, such that the Criticism section is about half quotes. Well, maybe I exaggerate. Anyway, is there a guideline regarding Wikipedia writing style that specifically addresses this? I'm under the impression that encyclopedia style entails finding a solid source and then writing a sort of summary of the information that that source provides. Is that right? Is it unusual style just to string together damning quotes? Thanks! TimidGuy 17:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Well, the neutral point of view policy says that articles should be balanced with respect to the various views that could be expressed (and there's a tag, {{unbalanced}}, that you can place on an article to mention this); there's also {{quotefarm}}, which you can use on an article if you think it contains too many quotations. WP:TC (Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup) is a good page to go to if you think there might be something wrong with a page and want to know what to do about it; if there's a tag for reporting a problem with a page, it's likely that in many circumstances it will in fact be a problem. Hope that helps! --ais523 18:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

    Excellent. Thanks much! I like quotefarm and will use that. TimidGuy 20:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Re: information on private sites

    The article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_index_comparison lists private sites that wish to be removed. I removed one in question and was warned for "vandalism". The posting of incrimiating information about sites on a public forum(eg: implying that a site facilitates the distribution of illegal content) is slanderous and should not be included in the wikipedia. Please respect the wishes of site staff and owners and DO NOT replace the removed private site listings.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Weberr13 (talkcontribs)

    Generally, WP:LEGAL dissuades users from making legal threats against the foundation, however if you'd take this up talk page of that article I'm sure you'll be able to reach some kind of consensus with the editors on that page--VectorPotentialTalk 18:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    If you get a vandalism warning let the warner know whats going on. Put this message(the one you wrote) on the talk page of the person who warned you. --Semper Fi, Darkest Hour 18:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
    This also shows the importance of edit summaries. Other editors cannot guess your rationale for your edits, so you should ALWAYS post an explanation for removing content. Xiner (talk, email) 19:07, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Perhaps more to the point, if the article follows Wikipedia rules, everything in it must be sourced. If that's the case, Wikipedia cannot be the one making initial accusations. If sources cannot be found which support both the statements and any conclusions drawn, that represents original research, and must be removed. I don't pretend to understand the article, but these are fundamentals. Notinasnaid 20:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Finding an article that has been deleted

    I could have sworn there was a biography article for on this person I was interested in, but now I can't find it. How do I determine if there was article that since has been deleted?

    Type the name of the person in the search box and click go. If the page has been deleted on said page there will be a link saying why was my page deleted? Click on the the links provided and you will find out who deleted it. --Semper Fi, Darkest Hour 19:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
    Hi, go to Special:Log/Delete and type the name of the article you are looking for in the "Title" field. --KFP (talk | contribs) 19:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Wow, thank you both! I didn't know there was a searchable deletion log like that. Blinkystar 21:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    For the sake of mind-numbing completeness, everything a person could want to know about deletion seems to be here: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Del. A link to Special:Log/Delete appears in the pile of links there. --Teratornis 04:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wrong information in Alpaca topic

    We represent the Alpaca Owners and Breeders Association (AOBA).

    Under the topic Alpaca, there is a reference and link to a UC Davis article. This case study is damaging because it is based on some incorrect information.

    Please remove the reference to this flawed and misleading article.

    If you would like more information or to speak with an AOBA spokesperson, call Cindy Berman at (216) 831-0440, ext.105.

    Please provide a link [[Name of article]], because I cannot found the articl but not what you are talking about. --Semper Fi, Darkest Hour 20:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
    I think that they are referring to the references section in this article Alpaca. User: Hdt83 | Talk/Chat 00:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    If any user / anonymous user blanks the Sandbox page including template {{Please leave this line alone (sandbox heading)}} and provide slang sentences, the is it considered to be vandalism?--NAHID 20:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    P.S. I mentioned question in Sandbox and Subpage Categorizationin 2nd para. Can anyone answer that one too.

    I'd think that that's a mistake that a newbie could easily make in good faith, so I'd be very hesitant to call it vandalism. After all, they're editing the sandbox, not the mainspace, so to me that shows some intention not to cause harm. However, it could be considered disruption if you ask them clearly and politely to stop doing it and they keep it up after a few requests to stop. delldot talk 20:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    How can anything done in the Sandbox be vandalism? Nothing done there can last for more than an hour and I can find no guidelines about what should or should not be in the Sandbox, except for Please do not place copyrighted, offensive, or libelous content in the sandbox(es), and while that sort of stuff might be against the rules surely it doesn't qualify as vandalism. -- Lilwik 00:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I've always found it ironic that the sandbox carries the stipulation that some lines shouldn't be deleted. Anyway, I've found the need a couple of times to replace the whole page as part of testing, and while I could create a page in my own user space, it would be used so infrequently that it'd take more time for an admin to delete the resultant page than for someone else to revert the sandbox. Xiner (talk, email) 00:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    We have a bot that puts the header back every 30 minutes if someone deleted it. It's helpful if people try not to remove the header, but not a big deal if someone removes it accidentally. Dave6 talk 03:45, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Maybe I'm missing something, but I've always wondered how to check the number of pages with a link to a specific page. Xiner (talk, email) 21:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Not exactly direct, but if there are less than 500 you can view them all and then do a binary search on the limit argument in the URL (or copy and paste them into a word processing program that will tell you how many lines you have). If there are more than 500, you can step through them 500 at a time and do the binary search (or copy and paste) on the last set. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:50, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    2 IP address

    My Internet connection tab shows My IP is 10.0.7.101. BUT Wikipedia shows different IP 202.79.18.2. Why this is happening?? Will it creat any problem??--NAHID 21:52, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    That's your internal IP, probably from a router. For more info, please visit the ref desk. Xiner (talk, email) 21:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Delete

    Moved to WP:HELPDESK from Talk:Main_Page. ffm yes? 22:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Why is "Delete file" not in the toolbox ?

    Tsi43318 22:39, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Regular users can't delete pages/files. You must be an admin. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 23:49, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Userpage categorization

    Can any user categorazed his userpage / subpage / sandbox (By providing his own created template, that is used in another article). If the pages are categorized then what would happen? Is his Userpage name likely to be removed from the category? Or what?--NAHID 23:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    P.S. How can I remove Username from category page?

    Wikipedia:User categorization and Wikipedia:Templates are two different things. In case of usercats, you shouldn't put your pages in a cat of your own, as that's not their purpose. Xiner (talk, email) 23:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Images on Wikipedia pages are not showing up...

    I've been downloading a ton of photos from Wikipedia lately, but now suddenly I can't see ANY images on ANY Wikipedia pages. This happens with Wikipedia on different browsers, so I don't think it's a browser issue. And all websites outside the Wikipedia family appear to be fine, so...

    Have I downloaded so much that I've been blocked? Or what? Please help! Thanks!

    The upload server and Commons servers can be quite slow at times. x42bn6 Talk 01:39, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hm... I've never encountered any slowness before. And the images don't seem to appear, no matter how long I wait.66.142.64.222 01:44, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    OK, it's fine now. You were right. It was just suddenly really really slow. Thanks for your help!66.142.64.222 01:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia "featured" in spam e-mail

    I got a pump-and-dump spam today telling me to "Read more about Proton exchange membrane at wikipedia."(sic). I go there out of curiosity, and someone has added this to the end : "In Feb. 2007 this article was used as a reference for a pump-and-dump stock spam scam. Remember that the Wiki does not endorse or promote any product." Is there a template that can replace this? I'd rather a self-reference like this have a colorful box seperate from the actual article. Thanks, --Transfinite 01:38, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    ABout wikipedia administrator

    HOw can i become wikipedia administrator — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parveenyadav (talkcontribs)

    WP:RFA. Work hard, play fair. Xiner (talk, email) 03:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I want to buy a t shirt from wikipedia. Is that possible? Jonlebe 04:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    my compliments

    may i compliment you on what a great job you do on getting the worst most rudest volunteers that instead of helping they just spend there time insulting people they dont even know!, the person that created this site might consider being more hands on because if i were that person i would be ashamed on what a reck this is turning out to be. You might want to consider volunteer clean up because this site needs people that dont involve their personal life and personal problems such as racism and gossip with professional business i am well aware nobody gets paid to do this job but like they say if your going to do something do it right or dont do it at allBacanaleranica 05:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]