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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors with "In the news"

Olaf Scholz

• The German ruling coalition (Chancellor Olaf Scholz pictured) collapses over disagreements on economic policies.

The word "collapses" seems too strong as the linked article, 2024 German government crisis, does not use it. What it actually says is "...FDP effectively moved into the opposition, rendering the current coalition a two-party minority government." So, there's still a coalition but it has lost one of its members and so will continue as a minority government for now. Scholz is negotiating what happens next and it seems to be too soon to say exactly what that will be. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:37, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

• Indeed, I'm not even sure why this is in ITN given that the government is still very much in place. There will presumably be elections soon and we should post then.

  Also, when I first read this I thought it was Scholz himself who had collapsed. It's a poorly worded hook, given the presence of the photo caption in the middle, making it look like the Chancellor has had a mishap.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:35, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

• ... that Abraham Hamadeh lost one of the closest elections in Arizona history by 280 votes, and has filed multiple lawsuits challenging the results?

@DukeOfDelTaco, Cambalachero, Kimikel, and RoySmith: borderline case, but possible a WP:DYKBLP problem for undue focus on a negative aspect of a living person? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:12, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I think it's OK. They're a politician. Winning and losing elections is what politicians do. RoySmith (talk) 21:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

• One could nix the lawsuits, but when you have a margin of 280 votes in an election of that level, it's also par for the course.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

  I would've nixed the lawsuits, not necessarily on DYBLP grounds but just because it's punchier to focus on one piece of trivia. But that's style, not an error. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 08:16, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "On this day"

Today's OTD

• Is it OK from a copyright point of view to use Oscar the Grouch on the main page like this? -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 02:52, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

  Copyright may be okay as the original is released into the public domain but it's an interior photo featuring a copyrighted character. It's on commons but should it be? One for commons? Secretlondon (talk) 14:45, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

  Actually the photo is File:Carroll Spinney and Oscar the Grouch 2014.jpg. I'm still going to get advice from commons. Secretlondon (talk) 14:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

  I've asked Commons (here Secretlondon (talk) 15:00, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

  I think these are Commons:Derivative works and should be deleted. It's like a photo of a toy or copyrighted character. Secretlondon (talk) 15:19, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Tomorrow's OTD

• Afzal Khan (d. 1659) - article has died 20 November and 10 November as the Julian date. JennyOz (talk) 07:28, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(November 15)

Monday's FL

(November 11, tomorrow)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

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General discussion

Dark mode is coming!

If you haven't seen the news, natively-supported dark mode is coming. I think if you want to try it without opting in etc. this is a link you can try (it worked for me in private mode of Firefox).

This means the main page needs some styles. Previously it was basically how any old page in the main space looks (e.g. Facebook: just a black background and borders). I took an hour or two to give it a color theme reminiscent of light mode with some use of this web theme maker (I got the "value" for the light mode colors in the spectrum, then flipped them relative to 1000) and then made a single tweak (the purple used for TFP). Wikipedia:Main Page/styles.css has the colors (which are duplicated for the "OS" selection) if you want a readable summary.

Visited links are not necessarily accessible currently, but they aren't accessible on the current dark mode either (contrast of 3.5), so I don't think it's worth spending a ton of time on that.

If anyone thinks things aren't ideal (and I suspect they aren't), feel free to nudge things in the relevant style sheet with an admin request (who has to nudge them twice). Ignoring the link accessibility, I think right now the border for section headers on the blue side and TFP aren't great, and the TFP header background is too bright. Also, bullets aren't visible but that's going to be fixed in the next deployment. Izno (talk) 23:49, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

One of the tools that's essential for my main page work is User:Anomie/linkclassifier.js (documentation) and it's important that with coloured backgrounds, this still works. Schwede66 00:43, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Not directly relevant to this section, but if you want to ensure that looks some reasonable way, you should discuss with Anomie. All the link colors are the default here. Izno (talk) 01:03, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Finally. MJGTMKME123 (talk) 14:03, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not a fan of the literal SEAOFBLUE on the right side, maybe the colors need to be a bit muted (especially for the background)? Sohom (talk) 17:28, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Happy to implement suggestions. I thought it was good enough. Izno (talk) 20:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

@Izno I've created a alternate colorscheme (it's effectively the same colors, but very very muted) at Template:TemplateStyles sandbox/Sohom Datta/styles.css, let me know if that works. Sohom (talk) 21:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Picture of how the page should look

Per above. Please replace the contents of WP:Main Page/styles.css with Template:TemplateStyles sandbox/Sohom Datta/styles.css. Thanks. Sohom (talk) 23:20, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Did this a couple hours ago. Izno (talk) 23:24, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Ah shoot, looks like I did not WP:BYPASS :( Sohom (talk) 23:25, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Changing the 'Did you know...' section title

I have notice that in the did you know section all bullet points start with '...that', and I personally think that the 'that should be moved to the section title, making the title 'Did you know that...' and remove the 'that's from the bullet points, streamlining the page by a slight bit and making things a tad bit less redundant. Gantnitsa (talk) 16:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Maybe, but first of all, four-letter abbreviations which lack the potential to double as easy-to-pronounce acronyms are awkward at best. There's also the issue of the need for consensus-building as to how to handle it in the uncommon-but-far-from-unheard-of cases in which "that" would be less than ideal to serve as the otherwise-initial word of a hook. Again, while admittedly uncommon, it hardly seems unlikely to an extent in which consensus-building would be best addressed on a case-by-case basis. This proposal seems like a creepy, albeit well-intentioned solution in search of a problem. Joefromrandb (talk) 21:07, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

This is something to discuss at Wikipedia talk:Did you know. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 23:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)