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August 26

Uploads

I set up an account to contribute to Wikipedia on the 18th of Aug. Trying to upload my document and I got this message: You cannot move pages because your account is too new or is blocked from editing. If you would like a page to be moved and you are not blocked, you can list it at Wikipedia:Requested moves.

I assumed my account is more than 4 days old -today being 25th Aug? Can't seem to figure out how to request to be moved too. Is my account blocked? Your help will be greatly appreciated. Aliceako (talk) 00:21, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You must also make a total of ten edits. Perhaps to get those ten edits you can try adding sources to some articles in Category:All articles lacking sources. Ryan Vesey Review me! 00:24, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you're referring to an effort to move User:Aliceako/Freedom Centre International (FCI) Welling to the main article space, I should warn you that it needs a significant amount of work before it should be moved. The first priority should be the issue of notability and references. Dismas|^(talk) 00:58, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox_album in artist article italicising title

Resolved

The title of the article Diesel Boy is displaying in italics, presumably because the article contains {{Infobox album}}. What's the correct fix? 2.26.139.138 (talk) 02:17, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've added |Italic title = no to the {{Infobox album}}s. Goodvac (talk) 02:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Now I know! 2.26.139.138 (talk) 02:47, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading scanned images

Is it wrong to upload images scanned from books and leaflets I have bought, to Wikimedia or Wikipedia? Does it violate copyright laws? --Gregorvitch (talk) 05:36, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, unfortunately it does. Unless the published material or specific image is released under a free license or is in public domain (usually because of age). -- Obsidi♠n Soul 08:57, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also you can ask about copyright questions in Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. There are more people there more familiar with copyright laws.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 08:59, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for making it clear.

Resolved

Gregorvitch (talk) 10:06, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request for archived page deletion

Hello,

May I request you to urgently look upon the following page: [1]

This is an old archived page. The problem is that this page is showing up in one of the top Google searches whenever the name "(Redacted)" is being typed in. As a result, my potential customers and clients are being affected and my own reputation is being negatively impacted because of the same.

I'm sure that you'll agree that a an ordinary viewer or customer has got nothing to do with an old archived debate between Wikipedia editors and an author over whether to include a person or not.

I, therefore, request you to do something about this matter. Would be grateful if this could be permanently deleted or at least hidden from the google searches.

Regards, (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.228.106.42 (talk) 09:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Please contact an Oversighter directly for suppression of pages for privacy reasons. Ways how to are listed here: Wikipedia:Requests for oversight (click on the [show] buttons on the right side of each option). I have also redacted your name here to avoid more problems.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 09:19, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've noindexed the page and sent a request to google to remove it from their searches. Jarkeld (talk) 09:27, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Images in BLP

I have read and follow the guideline from Wikipedia:Images, "[i]mages must be relevant to the article that they appear in and be significantly and directly related to the article's topic."

Yet I see three images of Seth Green at various ComicCon and four images of "candid" Olivia Wilde and have to wonder:

"What guideline prohibits stuffing a BLP with current/previous/wanted/pretty images that add nothing to the understanding of the topic yet are (technically) related to the topic?"

71.234.215.133 (talk) 10:29, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Really good question - since they are free images, in theory, they can stuff in as many as possible - however, from an editorial guidelines point of view, there is absolutely no encyclopaedic or informational value from basically stuffing an article with headshot after headshot for purely decorative reasons. Take that Seth Green article - sure a headshot is great for the info-box but what purpose do the two additional ones service? it's simply just two more shots of a smiling guy's head. They add nothing. --Cameron Scott (talk) 11:22, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quoting Camaeron Scott: "...from an editorial guidelines point of view, there is absolutely no encyclopaedic or informational value...". What editorial guideline? As far as I can tell, WP does not have an editorial guideline against such stuffing. Please tell me the guideline so I can pare Seth Green and Olivia Wilde down and know I am following WP guidelines when I do it. 71.234.215.133 (talk) 12:14, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cameron Scott has pared the Green and Wilde articles I used as examples of BLP image stuffing without addressing what guideline(s) gives him the nod to remove those images. I want to know what guidline(s) apply in these situations. 71.234.215.133 (talk) 13:13, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Images#Image choice and placement •¤• Wikipedia:Images#Pertinence and encyclopedic nature •¤• WP:NOTIMAGE •¤• Wikipedia:Image use policy#Content and possibly relevant by analogy, WP:ICONDECORATION. More generally, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Note regarding the last, that the title of that policy is a much better description alone of how it is used than what its text content says (which is pathetic). The section is often cited in discussions as a general principle, without reference to the description, and on Wikipedia, we often recognize consensus as to policy by application.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:16, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moved article with German interwiki link

I discovered that an article about Thomas Wilson Paterson had been created as Thomas William Paterson (see the official list of former Lieutenant Governors of British Columbia). I have moved the English article and, although I think that I could probably perform the move in the German wiki, my knowledge of the German language is almost null. Could someone assist? If I have chosen the wrong forum, then please let me know how I should proceed. There is also an image file on the Commons named "Thomas William Paterson.jpg" which should probably be moved but it is also used in the German article. Danke. --Big_iron (talk) 11:27, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moved the German article. Put a file rename tag on File:Thomas William Paterson.jpg. Regards.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫_Hey ^{it's me}_{I am dynamite} 11:35, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The move button is in the same place. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:14, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that you may have tagged the image in the wrong wiki. I have put in a rename request on the Wikipedia commons for the image. If necessary, I will update both articles that link to the image after the move. Thank you for the German updates. --Big_iron (talk) 13:40, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image Opening in a New Tab

I'm thinking that if an image were to open into a new tab rather than redirecting the page, my reading of Wikipedia as a whole would be improved a hundred fold.

Thoughts?

Or am I simply doing something wrong?

-204.10.127.120 (talk) 11:49, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

With most browsers, right-clicking on a link will give you the option to open the link in a new tab, if that's what you would prefer. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:07, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Holding down Shift or Ctrl while left-clicking an image may also open it in a new tab. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:31, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article about a company I work for

Good afternoon,

I have been asked to set up an article for a company I work for. I understand that it is more likely to be accepted if written by an unbiased author, is there a forum where can I request this in Wikipedia, and what information would I need to provide? If I decided to write something myself, where would be the best place to start? What types of sources are allowed - for example can an article about the company in an industry magazine be used as a source? Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.206.168.3 (talk) 12:16, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Start off with WP:COI, and also try WP:COMPANY. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:22, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And then WP:Requested articles. – ukexpat (talk) 13:47, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For what type of references are allowed, see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Articles in industry magazines would normally be good sources. doomgaze (talk) 15:51, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To summarise some common "problems" which you might want to let your employer know: the page wouldn't be "owned" by the company, and anyone can edit it. If there is 'negative' coverage about the company which is found at reliable sources, that can be included - and removing such sourced material can lead to a block from editing. References cited from the company itself (press releases, their website, etc) are not suitable as they are not independent. If the company does not meet the notability criteria here (especially the criteria for businesses here), the article is likely to be deleted. if the company meets Wikipdia's notability criteria, the odds are that someone totally independent will eventually create an article. Wikipedia does not exist to promote companies (directly or indirectly) or to give 'respectability' or 'credence' to an organisation - if that is your company's reason for wanting an article, this is the wrong venue! -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 13:35, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Loud text

Resolved

A couple months back, most (but not all) of the text in the main window of Wikipedia went to bolder and bigger font for me. It only happens on Google Chrome, not Internet Explorer, but no other web sites do this on Chrome, only Wikipedia. The text on the left, very top, and in the edit windows is as usual, but the normal article text and tabs show up darker. I have checked all the options I can think of in Chrome and Wikipedia, to no avail. Do you have any ideas what happened, and how to get it back to normal? BollyJeff || talk 13:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a mouse with a scroll wheel you can change the size by holding down the control key on the keyboard and rotating the scroll wheel. This probably happened accidentally to you. If you don't have a scroll wheel, hold down the control key and press the plus or minus key. RJFJR (talk) 13:35, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, thank you! but where is this documented? BollyJeff || talk 14:18, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here. Although it doesn't mention the scroll wheel method. Яehevkor ✉ 14:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As indicated by the above link, this is a browser function and not a Wikipedia function. The browser probably remembers which size you viewed a specific site last time and then chooses the same size next time. I rarely use Chrome but when I'm on a page in Chrome and click the wrench icon in the upper right corner, there is an option saying "Zoom" and a number where 100% is the default. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:42, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to all of you. BollyJeff || talk 16:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, Ctrl-0 resets a page to 100%/default zoom. —mc10 (t/c) 22:02, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Use of primary sources for verification of the entries in a list article

I want to further clean up List of conglomerates without starting a deletion rampage. However, verifying the conglomerate status of each entry through the use of third party sources is a pain because of the huge number of entries to verify. Would it be permissible to use listings of the business areas of a company from the company website to verify its conglomerate status? The company website would definitely count as a self-published source. However, trying to find reliable third party sources for every single of the 300+ entries explicitly calling it a conglomerate is very time consuming (and I acknowledge Wikipedia being a work in progress). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:48, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I don't see this as sufficient. Then you're using your own judgement as to what constitutes a conglomerate, which violates WP:OR. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:28, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Generally for list articles, especially ones that are not contentious, a source in the list is unecessary as long as a verified source in the article states the information. For example Aya Group is sourced with this. Ryan Vesey Review me! 17:38, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then I think most of the list should be cut because most of the articles are stubs without sources confirming the conglomerate status or without any mention of the conglomerate status in the article. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:46, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If it helps (and you may know this intimately already but...) on the removal end, see WP:BURDEN—you have the right to remove any unsourced content and it must not be placed back without an inline citation (the burden is on the person seeking to add back content)—and on the addition end, see Wikipedia:Citation tools. Two tools I find especially useful from there: Google Books Citation Tool, and using Webreflinks you can drop in multiple bare URLs inside ref tags and then use the tool to expand the citations (in some cases) to fully filled out cite web templates with automatically provided content.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:33, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Yeah, I am aware of WP:BURDEN. However if I started a large scale removal of entries (which I do not intend to do right now) I am pretty sure this would lead to protests and I also think a lot of the entries probably are in fact conglomerates. I think I will just try to dig up sources for those without one yet. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:46, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Irene (2011)

The article feedback on the bottom of Hurricane Irene (2011) says under the "well-written" category, the article is rated 5.5 out of 5. That's impossible. Has the page been hacked (not vandalized) or something? HurricaneFan 25 18:19, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For me it says 4.8 out of 5. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:30, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kitchen Nightmares

I really enjoy your shows but I wish you would edit out all the swearing like you do in some of your shows. Your new on Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares needs to have the swearing bleeped out. I won't watch it if the swearing continues. You have a wonderful show but I can't see the purpose of all the bad language that you have in it. Your very popular without it. Thanks. Judy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.55.181.52 (talk) 18:20, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. GB fan please review my editing 18:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Transliteration and (or against) sources

Hello everyone,

I come from the French Wikipedia and my activity here is scarce. But I need to know more about the English-speaking Wikipedia's policy on conflicts between conventions, like Wikipedia:Romanization of Russian, and the principle that we have to Cite sources. The issue we have on WP:fr is that, in French, some Romanized names in the French way have little to no existence among external sources, especially sport players whose names are Romanized in the English way on all TV captions throughout the world. Some argue that WP cannot stand with the fringe even if it helps spread out the bad romanization, others think that transliteration should be enforced like spelling even if people are astonished. so I'd like to know the way you handle that here. 82.240.207.81 (talk) 18:24, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In the articles themselves, we use whatever is the standard spelling in English of the name, following the "principle of least astonishment"; but sources are cited according to the spelling used in the original sources, however startling that may be (except that if a source is not quoted in the original language, spelling within the translated quote may be translated along with language). Does that answer your query? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:37, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was actually thinking about titles. You said 'standard spelling in English', but you seem to imply that the standard is defined by sources themselves. Well, in English it is true that both match almost every time. While digging further I have found Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Russia) and WP:Use English. The example of Joseph / Iosif Brodsky leaves me clueless, cause the two spellings are totally mixed in the article. 82.240.207.81 (talk) 19:01, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We tend to be very inconsistent. In some cases we have relatively straightforward rules, such as using Pinyin romanisation for Chinese names related to the People's Republic, and Wade Giles for Chinese names related to Taiwan or Hong Kong. In other cases (such as Tibetan, I believe) we just use what's most common in the sources, even if romanisation methods differ from one person to another without any discernible structure. But the French Wikipedia will likely be more methodical for cultural reasons. Hans Adler 19:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes? Tell me more, I am interested. You might be surprised to know that there is no convention on transliteration. 82.240.207.81 (talk) 19:19, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have a website I built and used Fortune to publish it,

I used trellix building tools to create a website and Fortune published it and it was all free, it was easy and unreplaceable. There were pictures of members that had died and such. The site is www.ducky50.nav.to and I had it on my desktop that I could open and add or change or whatever to the site and then hit a button to republish again. It was so easy and I had never did this before ever. It is RSDVictims. A rare disease and I have a support group and like an idiot not knowing, I never backed stuff up and my computer blew up, and I lost it all. I do not recall how to get this back on my desktop, I forgot my log in name and password. Can u please please help me????? I am in tears.

Judy Duckworth My email is also different as we moved and I went to the faster cable modem. It is <redacted>

I can verify anything you need, just please help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.168.139.125 (talk) 20:58, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Email redacted. We cannot help you here; go to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing and ask there. —Jeremy v^_^v ^{Components:V S M} 21:15, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

user talk message: how to respond

How can I respond to the writer of a user talk message saying that an edit I made "did not appear to be constructive; It was identified as vandalism" and that the change was reverted? I would like an explanation for why the edit was considered vandalism (it contained facts from a NY Times article and another Wikipedia page) and also why the change was not just reverted but information that was there before my edit, upon which I had expanded, was removed. Thank you.

96.52.132.123 (talk) 21:43, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can contact the person who reverted your edit at User talk:Ezekiel53746; however, if you read the policy on biographies of living persons, specifically the section "remove unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material" you will notice that any possibly negative information about a BLP must be sourced. No source was stated in the article. For help sourcing the information, please see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. Ryan Vesey Review me! 21:49, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) The edit was absolutely proper as to what it did. Unsouced negative or controversial material about living persons may not be added anywhere on Wikipedia without a reliable source used in conjunction simultaneously through an inline citation. Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability generally, and the policy on biographies of living persons ("BLP") which requires the more stringent citation standards when it comes to living persons. The warning given to you at your talk page upon the removal, on the other hand, was absolutely improper and I will go talk to the user about that now (by posting to his/her talk page).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:54, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't notice that. You are correct. If a warning was left it should have been about adding unsourced material. Honestly, I think a templated warning is even unnecessary and a written note would have been better. Ryan Vesey Review me! 21:57, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My edit linked to another Wikipedia entry that did have the NY Times source for the info I added. Can I add the information with the citation from the second entry, or should I hold off for a few days? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.52.132.123 (talk) 22:04, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can't use another article as a reference and you can't use a reference you have not read yourself; see WP:V. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 23:33, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review

AdamJ.W.C. has been sniping at me over the "quality" of my photos. He has suggested a peer review, which I'm all in favour of. So, how do I organise a peer review?

Sardaka (talk) 22:15, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's certainly possible that it's an area I'm not familiar with, but I know of no such thing as a peer review for images on Wikipedia that would be relevant here. There is Wikipedia:Picture peer review (part of the peer review project) but that doesn't make sense within the context here, as it is a place to seek input on images for Featured Picture Candidacy. Maybe he meant something else? Maybe a third opinion or request for comment, which both involve reviews by peers?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

August 27

60 yr-old, low computer skills, wants to make 1 edit of an article

Hi, I am at a loss when I try to understand the previous posts.

My question: I would like to edit the article about Crash (the Paul Haggis movie) The article says the movie is about "racial and social tensions". That is not what the movie is about, and Haggis has said so. I found an interview where Haggis speaks about how he came to write Crash, but I don't know how to summarize it.

1. Can I replace the current sentence with the quotation? 2. If so, how would I do this?

This is the quotation and the source. I recently had become intrigued by how we affect strangers. You and I, driving down the streets, I yell at you, you flip me the finger, you go right, I go left. What happens to you? Do you go home and do the emotions that the incident has caused you to carry cause you to have a tiff with your wife? Or do you stop two or three blocks later and save someone’s life? But we judge people so quickly, based on so little evidence. So I asked myself those same questions: What did we do after we had the encounter with those two young guys? We went home and changed the locks. Then I asked myself, how would I have felt if that kid had come to change the locks at two in the morning? What if he was Hispanic? What if he had buzzed hair and what looked like gang or prison tattoos. Would I have felt safe? Being a liberal guy, you’re always spouting off on these things, would you have felt safe in that situation? ‘Fuck! I hate that! I hate asking that question!’ So I decided to put Sandra Bullock’s character in that position of having to admit it. But then wait, what happens to that kid who comes to change the locks? So I followed him. And by ten in the morning, I had the whole story completed, with all these characters who’d come to me over the years. http://thehollywoodinterview.blogspot.com/2008/01/paul-haggis-hollywood-interview.html

Thank you, trichoses Trichoses (talk) 01:48, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The quotation is far too long for the lead, and probably also too long to quote at all for copyright reasons. I haven't found mention of copyright at the source but copyright is implied if nothing is stated. I don't think the quote contradicts the current lead of Crash (2004 film). There are different ways to describe a film. The official site http://www.crashfilm.com/ (click "FILM INFO") includes: "Challenging and thought-provoking, Lions Gate Films' CRASH takes a provocative, unflinching look at the complexities of racial tolerance in contemporary America." That text is also at http://www.lionsgate.com/profile/crash.php. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:17, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Football

What is the oldest franchise in american football. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.116.33.127 (talk) 03:25, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This page is only for posting questions about using Wikipedia. Please redirect your factual question to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:29, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arizona Cardinals. Monterey Bay (talk) 03:31, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Chicago Bears and the Arizona Cardinals are the only 2 original teams of the NFL left. GB fan please review my editing 03:33, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Zappa

Does somebody want to figure out what the hell is wrong with this article? You'll be able to see it right away, but I'm not sure what's causing it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:44, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is caused by Template:IPAc-en which is used in the text. When I take that out it looks fine. Not sure how it can be fixed while retaining the template tough. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:22, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article should be using a template for italian instead of english anyway. However Template:IPAc-it does not exist yet. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:52, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I took the template out completely. An IPA template for Italian should be created and used in the article instead. I am not familiar with the phonetic alphabet or the italian language to do it myself though. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:58, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aha. Still not sure why that template was causing it, but glad it's fixed. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:24, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Introducing Myself

Dear Ladies/Getlemen:

Its my pleasuer to introduce myself as Kiani Tabar.Basically, I’m a psychologist.Its more than 20 years I have been counselling with people.Also I ‘m translating different books in the field of Human life to my mother language ,Persian.Recently,I experienced some Brainchilds in which passes my mind as brainstorms.Now they are about 20 new ideas.I have sent a few of them to NASA or innovative instituetes in England.Since I didn’t pass even one technical course at university,honestly may some of my new ideas are not applicable. However ,I would like people live in rest and peace.

Extended content

Literature

Traveling by Airplane these days seems to be too easy.You can easily go to a travel agancy or to the Airport ,get your ticket and fly everywhere you want.Or you can enjoy a good flight and to be served during a fly.

But sometimes it can not be easy as you think.In some cases the Airplane might be crashed accidentally or an unpredictable injury might happens for Pilot and his/her Co-Pilot.

My new idea, is rescue of small Airplanes in which are damaged or crashed in the sky,by helping ArmyHercules aircrafts.

As I brainchild,every major Airport in the globe should have a few facilitated & equipped Army Hercules Aircrafts ,as I drawn and designed in attachments.They sould be ready to flight and rescue act.

Since the pilot of small airplane , might be injuered , exhusted or afraid, the Captain of Hercules 30-130 accomodates himself/herself for rescue.

At first The Army Hercules runs closely beneeth of small airplane.The captain of 30-130 fits Two series of back weels and one front weel of small airplane to the holes manufactured on the roof of Hercules.As I designed in Figuer named Rescue 001. Note : The brown colour Hachure from the down to top around the diagram which I desined, are Hi-Tech elastic made pad – cuhion, installed on the roof of Hercules to prevent bumping effect and crashing due to encounter of the beneeth of small airplane to the roof of Army Aircraft.

Second The Hi-tech Air Vaccum, as I shown like black spots in my drawing , suck the air into roof , causing the small airplane seat still ,not moving on the roof of Army Aircraft.

Third the Hi-Tech elastic round strips, comes out of walls of the holes, stretching expanding toward the center of the hole , where the weels of small airplane are there.They gather the weel bar firmly. Keep them fasten strongly for not throwing crashed airplane to sky.As I shown in Figuer named Rescue 003.

Forth The arms coming out from the corners of the right & left.The arms which comes out from the right, goes toward left from the top of crashed airplane and would be locked in a hatch way.The arms which comes out and stretches from the left , goes to right from the top of crashed airplane and would be locked in a hatch way.Inner the arms , Hi-Teck cotton made Belt are installed so that they gather crashed airplane firmly to not to return to sky and do not break the body of crashed airplane as well. As I shown in Figuer named Rescue 002.

Fifth A covered and safe hall way, would be stretched toward up, in the direction of doo of small airplane and would be fixed and firmed completely to the door of small airplane , which is opened now.Providing a hall way , lets passangers of crashed airplane slide(skid ) down into Army Rescue Aircraft .

There, a group of helpers are present.A few facilitated- equipped operation room with skillful surgeons,Medical team works,Nurses,General physicians, Social workers,Clergy men ,Psychologists should serve people.Resturants,Cinemas, Dormitories, Playing yard for children ,Communication devices...... should be predicted in army Aircraft.

Well, today I real exhusted you.All these ,because I dearly like people. Please confirm rcvng my letter.I will be awaiting to see your comments. With Kind regards, Mohammad Reza — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.142.227.151 (talk) 12:01, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 GB fan please review my editing 12:11, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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User:Srobak

I am seriously tired of this user. Accusing me of WP:TPO violation when I had GOOD reason to remove it; (the anonIP had removed the warning, and Srobak added it back, I removed it again, and so on and so forth; no party in it violated WP:3RR on the anonIPs talk page, fortunetely) removing my comments from his talk page because they apparently have no value there, when they indeed actually do; threatening to AN/I me for having broken WP:TPO 5 times, when I clearly have not done so; Need I go on?

I seriously have good reason to believe User:Srobak is violating WP:AGF. Basically, what I need here is some advice for this sort of situation. If someone OTHER THAN SROBAK could help, that would be awesome. Thanks. LikeLakers2 (talk) 13:15, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to include this, but not only that. he is threatening to WP:AIV me for apparent 5x violations of WP:TPO. He really must just not like me. LikeLakers2 (talk) 13:22, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:OWNTALK, a user is entitled to blank his talk page or remove posts from it as he sees fit. You are absolutely NOT entitled to edit war to restore them. You've massively violated 3RR, Srobak has not. You will IMMEDIATELY desist from this practice; if you do not, I will block you for edit warring and harassment. Stop right now. -- Finlay McWalter ☻ Talk 13:28, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Finlay McWalter - I have actually opened an ANI for 7x vios of WP:TPO and WP:HARASSMENT here. Srobak (talk) 14:12, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Woah, Finlay. Your response is much to harsh. Srobak had been edit warring on the IP's talk page. Now, the edit warring on Srobak's talk page is a different matter, but you have to take the entire dispute into consideration. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:47, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

After rereading the response I got from Finley, it seems he is also not using the correct info. He said I was editwarring to restore them, when I was actually trying to remove the warning that the IP had removed. Not trying to blame anyone for anything, but Srobak here was the one "editwarring" to restore the warning. Not only that, but from what I see, the point that I editwarred (from Finley) massively is also wrong, as I believe I only went one over the 3RR limit, if any. Neither me, nor Srobak, not the other admin that was re-removing it as well, went over the 3RR limit from what I can tell. LikeLakers2 (talk) 16:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You did restore comments that Srobak removed from their own talk page at least twice. So you were edit warring to restore comments. You didn't exceed three reverts but you were being disruptive. Srobak was disruptive in the same way. I would suggest the two of you disengage from this, you were both wrong. GB fan please review my editing 16:56, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You mean on Srobak's talk page? If so, yes, I did, however, I am not going to try to re add those, unless Srobak asks me to. If you mean the IPs talk page, I never added any of them back. Also, shall I move this to the bottom since its still active? LikeLakers2 (talk) 17:15, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I mean on Srobak's talk page. That is probably what Finlay was talking about above. Why would Srobak ask you to put anything back on their talk page after they removed it themselves and you reverted that removal? What is it you want to move to the bottom? GB fan please review my editing 17:27, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You must not of seen this comment above by Ryan Vesey: "...Srobak had been edit warring on the IP's talk page. Now, the edit warring on Srobak's talk page is a different matter..." LikeLakers2 (talk) 17:31, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure what Ryan was talking about above, but Finlay was obviously talking about your reverting of Srobak's removal of information from their own talk page. Finlay said, "Per WP:OWNTALK, a user is entitled to blank his talk page or remove posts from it as he sees fit. You are absolutely NOT entitled to edit war to restore them." The only place you edit warred to restore comments that a user removed from their own talk page was on Srobak's talk page. GB fan please review my editing 17:42, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion does not belong in this forum. As noted earlier, there is an existing discussion at WP:ANI.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:45, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Peg

Peg (fishing), I've added a definition to the wiktionary http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/peg#Noun . Should this article be deleted or not? It looks like a case of a dictionary term, but I think that peg is an obscure term that may need linking with no obvious alternative - how do I do this.Imgaril (talk) 13:42, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are instructions at WP:Transwiki log for it. For what it's worth, I would also agree that the article is more suited for Wiktionary. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:26, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, helped me find the info I needed - I think Template:Wiktionary redirect will be useful here.Imgaril (talk) 11:14, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Military Log

The Military channel is a great channel. It is very informative. It has lots of information. AND a huge LOGO. The logo that is always present often blocking the scripts that are being run at the bottom of the program. It only blocks out the last word in a sentance before it breaks. Usually just enough to interfear with the total meaning of the entire sentance. It is very annoying. If it were at the top it would have less viewing inpact. Please someone tell the producers that we know what cannel we are watching and don't need the blocage of the logo.

rick, [email redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.65.246.84 (talk) 14:02, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 PrimeHunter (talk) 14:12, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Finding articles belonging to two or more specific categories

I would like to be able to find article which belong to category X and/or to category Y (maybe more). Is there some sort of boolean query mechanism available to do these type of searches? Newwhist (talk) 19:01, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Category intersection.

—Wavelength (talk) 19:08, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You could also try using WP:CATSCAN here. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:27, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where can I find guidelines on notability for video games?

Where can I find guidelines on notability for video games?AdamCaputo (talk) 19:17, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Notability (video games).

—Wavelength (talk) 19:20, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WARNING: that is an ESSAY, meant to help you interpret policy as it applies, but CANNOT be used as an argument. The correct policy in this case is the general notability guideline.--Cerejota (talk) 19:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image file speedy deletion

I requested the speedy deletion of File:Arturas Rosenbacher Profile.jpg. The image is of the user who uploaded it and was then used in a hoax article claiming he was someone he was not. The hoax article was speedily deleted, but the image was not. The admin said the two criteria I used did not apply. What'd I do wrong?--Bbb23 (talk) 19:47, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The two criteria you used were G8 and F10. G8 is for dependent pages, like article talkpages, where the page it depends on doesn't exist (e.g. talkpage of a deleted article). F10 is for files besides image, sound, and video files. The only criterion I can think of that this would fall under is G3; I can't read the deleted content, but if the article was about a made-up person- someone who didn't actually exist- then the image would also be a hoax. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:56, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation - first time I've requested the speedy delete of a file (as opposed to an article). I was thinking the image was dependent on the deleted article. The image itself probably isn't a hoax - I'm assuming it's an image of the user. Surely, there must be some way to speedy delete images of users. I'm assuming we're not a repository of our own pictures. But, hey, maybe I'm wrong about that - I just looked at another image of a user (no ulterior motive as here).--Bbb23 (talk) 20:04, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The only case where a file is really dependent on an article is when you have a non-free image, and that's covered under F7. I will also say that it's not particularly intuitive, and it took me watching a few discussions at WT:CSD to figure out what G8 exactly meant. As for being a repository; established users do that sometimes, but most self-portraits that aren't being used get deleted (I've initiated that once, for a completely useless self-portrait that existed on Commons). The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:13, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Commons image deletion process is so much easier to use than the many different processes on Wikipedia. In any event, I see that the admin who declined the speedy delete nominated it for deletion here. I guess that's the right process for this kind of problem. I have voted delete there.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:36, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unreviewed article

What's the procedure for recommending ICSM Water Polo's deletion? AfD or something else? Clarityfiend (talk) 19:55, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Someone's decided to request a merge; I thought it met A7, but I don't greatly care. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:09, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the CSD. It should be merged (in part) to Imperial College Union. I think an even better spot would be Student life at Imperial College London, but the page needs to be created first. Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:11, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help with template coding

Resolved

– Works now the way I want it. Thanks. --Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:16, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I want to make a notification template for user talk pages. The template should produce the following:

==Notification regarding a file you added to an article== [[File:Info icon 002.svg|30px]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:???? File:????] which you added to [[Example]] with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title= this edit] was removed from that article because it does not have a valid non-free media use rationale for the article. Please see [[Wikipedia:Non-free content]] for the applicable policy and [[Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline]] if you want to address the issues. Thank you. ~~~~

I want to have it such that I can specify the file URL, a wikilink to the article in question and a link to a diff using slim pasteable code such as {{Notification|file=???|diff=???}}. However I am not that good at coding templates. Can someone help me with that or point me to a place where I can read about how to go about this? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 22:59, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See for example User talk:MusicGeek101#Notification regarding a file you added to an article for an example of what it should look like. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 23:03, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See below:

==Regarding [[:{{{1}}}]]==
[[File:Info icon 002.svg|30px]] I have removed [[:{{{1}}}]] which you added to [[:{{{2}}}]] with [{{{3}}} this edit], because it does not have a valid non-free media use rationale for the article. Please see [[Wikipedia:Non-free content]] for the applicable policy and [[Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline]] if you want to address the issues. Thank you.

The parameters for this would be {{subst:templatename|name of file|name of article|3=url of diff}} You imply you want automatic signing but its very uncommon and because of that, usually not included because most people end up signing twice when you do include it. If you really want it, you could add to the end, {{{sig|~~<includeonly></includeonly>~~}}}.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:20, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We already have {{Uw-nonfree}}:

Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. We always appreciate when users upload new images. However, it appears that one or more of the images you have recently uploaded or added to an article may fail our non-free image policy. Most often, this involves editors uploading or using a copyrighted image of a living person. For other possible reasons, please read up on our Non-free image criteria. Please note that we take very seriously our criteria on non-free image uploads and users who repeatedly upload or misuse non-free images may be blocked from editing. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 01:02, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It works now. Thanks very much. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:16, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

August 28

Looking for relatives in Germany

Please click on the following blue text. It is a link to the place where I have moved your question—a more proper forum for it: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#Looking for relatives in Germany.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:38, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protection and ANI

Several IPs have been vandalizing the article and soliciting more vandalization. I've requested semi-protection, but that can be a bit slow. In the meantime, I and other editors keep reverting the changes. Would it make sense to go to WP:ANI in the hope of quicker admin action, or do I just need to be more patient (it's kind of frustrating)?--Bbb23 (talk) 01:24, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An admin protected the page, but if anyone wants to answer my question for the future, that would be nice.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:56, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The first place to try is WP:RFPP. If that isn't getting picked up fast enough, try the IRC channel. Sometimes you can get a faster response from ANI, if you don't mind being told "Next time, take it to WP:RFPP" every time you ask for help at ANI. --Jayron32 03:03, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. Thanks much. I'll have to figure out how to use the IRC channel.--Bbb23 (talk) 03:06, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox issue

Alright, Ive used test.wikipedia.org to sort out my userboxes, and I tried to recreate in my sandbox. Heres my Test Wiki userpage ^{(which I have where I want it)} My sandbox recreation ^{(different results)}. I have the same coding on the templates too! My Test Wiki userbox template. My sandbox duplicate of my Test Wiki userbox page. mysterytrey (talk) 03:44, August 27^th, 2011 (UTC)

Can you clarify exactly what your question is? So far I just see a lot of links. Ryan Vesey Review me! 04:20, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have reproduced everywhere one simple error: <div style="float :right;"> instead of <div style="float: right;"> (emphasis added). I have fixed it at User:Mysterytrey/sandbox/trial/trial and error 2.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:21, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan, after the first link, they point out that that is the way things should be laid out. None of the following links have that same layout. Yes, it's not in question form and they could have been more clear but that is, as far as I can tell, what they were getting at. Dismas|^(talk) 04:59, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Fuhghettaboutit for correcting my error. I guess I should of been more clear in the question, but I was baffled and I really wasnt thinking of proper sentencing. mysterytrey (talk) 05:11, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:54, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ownership question

I understand that just because you write an essay, you don't own it; however, are other editors allowed to change the point of the essay I created? Ryan Vesey Review me! 04:29, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Its more a matter of collegiality than rules, I'd say. Try to work it out first, but if an essay is meant to espouse a certain point of view, it shouldn't be eaten away by those who don't share the same point of view.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 04:35, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is the essay in the user namespace or the Wikipedia namespace?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:53, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia namespace. Ryan Vesey Review me! 12:05, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If the essay is in publicspace, it is available for any editor to edit. If the "point" of the essay is changed, then make a new one!Curb Chain (talk) 22:30, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is this the essay in question?: Wikipedia:All high schools can be notable. If you don't want edits to this essay, I suggest you move it back to your userspace.Curb Chain (talk) 22:34, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that is terrible logic. "If someone wants to change the point of an essay, the person who created the essay should create a new one". In reality it should be, an essay is created with a purpose. That purpose should be maintained. If someone wants the essay to have a different purpose, they should create a new essay. Ryan Vesey Review me! 04:15, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References Do Not Show Up On List of hard rock musicians; It Shows Up As Template:Reflist

Refs don't show up on List of hard rock musicians.Curb Chain (talk) 07:54, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at reflist's documentation and I don't see a limit to the number of citations it can handle but maybe it's because the article has too many with 863? I removed about 300 references from the front end and previewed it, then repeated removing from the back end covering a different set of citations and both times it previewed fine with about 500 citations left in, leading me to believe that it's not an error in the code but in the number. By the way, I think that is an indiscriminate list that serves little purpose and is essentially redundant to a category. I shudder to think of all the work involved in what I see as a misplaced effort.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 08:49, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is no limit, as the references are generated by the Cite software extension. {{Reflist}} simply inserts and formats the reference list.

If you use your browser to look at the HTML source of the page in question, and search for newpp you will find:

NewPP limit report
Preprocessor node count: 565088/1000000
Post-expand include size: 2048000/2048000 bytes
Template argument size: 1135133/2048000 bytes
Expensive parser function count: 24/500

The Post-expand include size indicates the memory used by templates— it is currently at maximum. Once you go past this limit, templates will no longer expand. This list has a high use of {{flagicon}} and cite templates. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 09:41, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. So it could basically be "fixed" (if indeed it should be) by faking a few hundred flagicon templates with image code such as [[File:Flag of Bulgaria.svg|22px|link=Bulgaria]].--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. You could subst templates, eliminate templates or split the article. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:03, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am unable to edit the article - it is "crazy big" and I keep getting errors whenever I save. But wouldn't the best option be to just remove the flag icons? I don't see anything in MOS:FLAG that supports their use there. Яehevkor ✉ 10:04, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would say it has a fair amount of WP:OR as well. Eric Clapton, a hard rock musician? Not exactly the first label I'd put on him. Same goes for Pink Floyd. Meanwhile, bands like Guns 'n' Roses has three or more references when there wouldn't be much argument there. Dismas|^(talk) 10:07, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Using <references /> instead of the template should force references to appear. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:16, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done that, but eventually it stops expanding the references themselves, just showing "Template:Cite web". Яehevkor ✉ 10:19, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article is just too large with too many templates that the only way I can see to fix this would be splitting the article. Even removing the flag icons there are still hundreds of unsourced entries which I presume will eventually be sourced, thus adding to the problem. Яehevkor ✉ 10:32, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did some quick tests:

{{reflist}} uses 161 bytes
{{reflist|2}} uses 564 bytes
{{Flagicon|USA}} uses 370 bytes
{{cite web|title=example|url=example.org}} uses 1301 bytes

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:39, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is turning into a problem article. I'm not the only person to have problems editing this article. I can't even look at the diffs because the of the huge size of the article. There are refs problems, missed placed refs, and the flagicons are contributing to the size crashing and should not be in article per WP:FLAGICON.Curb Chain (talk) 22:50, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Log out and try it— the page is cached from the squid server and will usually open for editing. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 22:53, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am having no luck as i always get errors when i save. When i look at diffs, i get errors as well. I suggest removing the flags because that is not necessary, and that currently is my intention of editing the article.Curb Chain (talk) 01:21, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Let me be one more to pile on here and strongly recommend that you remove all flags from the article. Per WP:MOSFLAG, this is gratuitous use and not supported by general practice. Double this with the fact that those large number of flag templates are breaking the page, and you have your fix. --Jayron32 01:38, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've split the list into two and removed all the flag icons. The second half still produces an error on my end when trying to save even though the edit does actually go through. There are a few cite errors, most on the second half and likely caused by the full ref being in the first half of the article. If someone else wants to clean those up, great! I have other things to attend to right now. Dismas|^(talk) 05:49, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to save my edit on the 0-N list and it won't register and errors. It is possibly to big.Curb Chain (talk) 07:19, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Linking text to another page on wikipedia

I would like to link an article to the Truth (British periodical) page, but I only succeed in linking to the main Truth page. How can I aim the link at a specific page when they have the same title? I've tried to follow your help guides, but have failed dismally. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nottinghamian (talk • contribs) 11:35, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[[Truth]] will go to the "main page" Truth - [[Truth (British periodical)]] will go to the page you want and will be displayed as Truth (British periodical).You can also use a piped link to modify the way the link will be displayed - [[Truth (British periodical)|Truth]] will link to the article about the periodical but will be displayed as Truth. Roger (talk) 11:43, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You would pipe the results. For your example it would look like this, [[Truth (British periodical)|''Truth'']]. That makes it look like this, Truth. The double single quotes italicizes the name. GB fan please review my editing 11:46, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can also use ''[[Truth (British periodical)|]]'' (note the pipe character before the closing brackets) to produce Truth. See Wikipedia:Pipe trick. Deor (talk) 12:06, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks everyone. That has done the trick Nottinghamian (talk) 12:40, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References – style variation and consistency

Will somebody please have a look at the references number 1 to 81 in the article Steinway & Sons. I am trying to write all the references the same way in the article Steinway & Sons. According to Style variation and consistency the references within each Wikipedia article should follow a consistent style. Therefore I am trying to make a consistent style in the article Steinway & Sons. So far I have changed the style for the reference number 1–81 to the same style be writing these references with the templates Template:Cite book, Template:Cite journal and Template:Cite web. It takes a lot of time, so before I make further edits I would like to hear if the references number 1–81 are written as Style variation and consistency would like them to be written. --Peoplefromarizona (talk) 16:37, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the majority use Citation Style 1 (book, journal, web, etc.) so you can certainly update the ones not using a template. User:PleaseStand/References segregator will slpit the references so you can edit them en bloc. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:12, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates on the left?

Resolved

Hi, Could you lease help the coordinates for The Longford Trust are appearing on the left of the article not the right why is this?

Kind regards, --Ratio:Scripta · ^{[ Talk ]} 19:09, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I responded to your question on your talk page. -- Luke (Talk) 19:24, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Navbox autohide?

Hello I have just created this Navbox template Template:Navbox The West Wing episodes. How do I make it appear as auto hidden on article pages as otherwise it takes up a lot of space as can bee see here Pilot (The West Wing) (scroll to bottom) where it is in use.

For example in this article Pilot (House) there is a Navbox (Template:Navbox House episodes) for House episodes which is auto-hidden allowing the reader to expand it. How do I achive this?

Kind regards, --Ratio:Scripta · ^{[ Talk ]} 23:58, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See Template:Navbox#Setup parameters. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:04, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

August 29

i am a play in africa, looking for team

i am mcdaddy kweh,i am a liberian living in ghana,i am a football. i am 18 years of age i play for futurestar in liberia im a striker, foward on my team i will like to play for this tam in my life i love it so much i want to be part of it. i am second division player in liberia i play for junior longstar in liberia i ready to play for this club if u can see me or contact me i am in ghana now this my contact (Redacted) please if u ready for me to come there for tryer i am ready. thank you!-kweh17 41.190.89.69 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:25, 29 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]

You may want to contact GAFCOA, which has a contact email listed at the end of this article about them They appear to be an organization for amateur Ghana football clubs. Even if you are looking for a place on a professional side, they may be able to direct you to the correct place. --Jayron32 00:38, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nasty WiKi on people who may be attacked for their logic

wondering if it safe or legal to have a WiKi here that is a registry of Atheists? As those people listed may be subject to threats from certain so-called christians who hate anything that is not christian. Page noted with all links in it to the data pages on people. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/List_of_atheists — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.183.237.34 (talk) 02:37, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of atheists says "who have publicly identified themselves as atheists". I don't see a problem if the list is sourced. Whatever somebody does or is, there will probably be people who don't like it, but I don't think the list puts people in danger. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:48, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Categories, lists and navigation templates for a relevant policy. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:53, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading scanned images of stamps

Is uploading scanned images or photographs of stamps, postcards, souvenir sheets, first day covers & stamped envelopes to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons ok? It won't violate copyright laws? If it's possible, can I upload them as my own work? Or as derivative works? What should be put as original source and Author? Gregorvitch (talk) 04:39, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gath, (city).... Goliath.

The last sentence in the following caption is incorrect.

"According to the Bible, the king of the city was Achish, in the times of Saul, David, and Solomon. It is not certain whether this refers to two or more kings of this name or not."

The list of kings, as per Biblical timeline references, is the historical account of the three consecutive reigning kings of Israel: first through third. As referenced in Samuel and I Kings.

Therefore, the sentence should read something along those lines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.202.208.148 (talk) 07:03, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence was referring to the king or kings of Gath named Achish, not the kings of Israel.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 07:21, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gath, (city).... Goliath.

The last sentence in the following caption is incorrect.

"According to the Bible, the king of the city was Achish, in the times of Saul, David, and Solomon. It is not certain whether this refers to two or more kings of this name or not."

The list of kings, as per Biblical timeline references, is the historical account of the three consecutive reigning kings of Israel: first through third. As referenced in Samuel and I Kings.

Therefore, Shouldn't the sentence read something along those lines.07:22, 29 August 2011 (UTC)07:22, 29 August 2011 (UTC)~

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