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Schedule section in 2019 AFC Asian Cup qualification – Third Round
Why do you think the Pre-Draw Schedule is still necessary ? Several equivalent articles I've seen seem to have this only until the draw is made, or remove it when the group matches start. There is nothing that puts this into context now with respect to the Match numbering : what now does 1 v 4, 3 v 2 mean for each group? It is not possible to determine now from this article who was originally 1, who was 2 etc. Also the information on the Dates is displayed clearly in the Group Stage section, and in some cases the actual match days deviates from the nominal (pre-draw) date. It appears to me that within such a long article, this section is now irrelevant and in and of itself non-notable (although it definitely was pre-draw). Matilda Maniac (talk) 14:29, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
CONCACAF Nations League
It sounds as though the competition proper will begin in late 2019, and it could possibly go into 2020, so if this turns out to be the case should the article be renamed 2019–20 CONCACAF Nations League (along with the qualifying article matching the parent's name)? And I imagine the qualifying round is only for the inaugural edition, but it should all be clear on Wednesday. And for the entrants table, per MOS:COLOUR, colour alone shouldn't be used to mark differences in text. Can the hexagonal participants be denoted in another way? Cheers, S.A. Julio (talk)
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2018 CECAFA U-17 Championship
I have created a page for CECAFA U17 2018 in Burundi...but since I am new, I do not know how to tranfer it and to make it public and to link it to the existing pages such as CECAFA U17.. Can you help ? My draft can be seen at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Normandy64/2017_CECAFA_U-17_Championship Thanks ! Normandy64
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Mohammad Kdouh (Al-Ahed)
Hey! I think the edit you made on Mohammad Kdouh on the 2018 AFC Cup knockout stage should not have been made since according to the AFC profile of the player, the player who scored the goal is not the same as the one who has the wiki page with the same name. Therefore I think you should revert the edit made there.--Anbans 585 (talk) 18:12, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Hey! I wanted to know that should we add the goalscorers in the 2018 CAF Champions League group stage according to the CAF match reports or according to the data provided by the sports websites such as soccerway.com or worldfootball.com. Though I think that the websites would give us more accurate data, but I also think that we should add the goalscorers according to the CAF match reports, as it is the official report by CAF itself. Do tell me about it, I will then add the goalscorers in the CAF Confedrations Cup likewise.--Anbans 585 (talk) 17:00, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Anbans 585: I don't see a "big" problem with adding goalscorers from other sources (at least temporarily), since CAF are often quite slow to (or even in some cases never) update their own reports. I also noticed that the CAF Champions League links now redirect you to some really "inconvenient" mobile-style page which give you real-time updates, but again I am not sure how accurate they are (some goalscorers differ from those given in news reports). Chanheigeorge (talk) 02:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Anbans 585: You can also follow the CAF live updates at their twitter account: [1], which is kind of "official". Chanheigeorge (talk) 05:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
So should i change the goalscorers from matchday 3 according to the CAF live update on twitter, or should I change it according to the CAF report (which has now been updated for all the matches) or should I leave it as it is. Since all of the three reports show a different set of goalscorers in the Tunis v KCCA match.--Anbans 585 (talk) 05:46, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Anbans 585: The differences as far as I know are the second goal by KCCA (some give it as own goal, some give it to Shaban, I watched the video and cannot tell who gets the last touch) and the first goal by Tunis (CAF give it to Mejri, but most news reports give it to Badri, so I am just assuming it is an "error" by CAF). Do you know of any other differences? Chanheigeorge (talk) 05:54, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
This was the tweet by CAF about this match. Sometimes the media is also wrong, as I remember that in an AFC Champions League match, the media reported that it was own goal, but the AFC reported otherwise. On a close look at the video posted by AFC, I thought that the AFC was right. So maybe in this case also may be the CAF twitter report is the most accurate?--Anbans 585 (talk) 06:02, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Anbans 585: This is the clearest video I can find: [2]. Go to 3:09 for a slow motion replay of the goal. I think #8 Badri got the last touch, not #9 Mejri. Chanheigeorge (talk) 08:10, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
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You've been warned before about edit warring, so I don't have to do that again. Can you also archive your talk page please? Drmies (talk) 05:20, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- Coming to reiterate what Drmies has stated about the edit warring on 2022 FIFA World Cup over OVERLINK. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:23, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- Walter I'm glad I'm sitting next to my router or I'd never be able to load this damn talk page. Drmies (talk) 05:29, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Drmies: @Walter Görlitz: I have only reverted three times, so I have not violated the WP:3RR. Again, I have stated twice my reasons for making the edit, citing specific passages of WP:OVERLINK. Neither of your edits have cited anything specific apart from the words "WP:OVERLINK" and "ugh no", and I would like to hear about your specific reasons for rejecting my edits. If there have been previous debates/consensus about whether host countries/bidding host countries should be linked from a football tournament, please point to it and I would like to read about it, otherwise if it is just one or a few editors making a decision about this, I personally don't understand this decision much. Chanheigeorge (talk) 05:36, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- Not quite.
- 2018-05-15T06:36:39 - linking to host country is not OLINK
- 2018-05-15T15:53:51 - the whole controversy over this hosting has to do with everything about the country Qatar, how is this even OVERLINK?
- 2018-05-16T05:13:10 - "A good question to ask yourself is whether reading the article you're about to link to would help someone understand the article you are linking from. Unless a term is particularly relevant to the context in the article, the following are not usually linked:" Qatar is very much relevant to 2022 FIFA World Cup and reading about Qatar helps readers understand the controversies
- 2018-05-16T05:16:39 - please state a reason why this is not a good edit apart from "ugh no"
- That seems like four reverts in under 24 hours to me. What's your count? Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:54, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- The first is a edit, not a revert. Chanheigeorge (talk) 05:55, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- That's a common mistake. WP:3RR states, "A 'revert' means any edit (or administrative action) that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material. A series of consecutive saved revert edits by one user with no intervening edits by another user counts as one revert." Since you changed the state of the previous OVERLINK, it was reverting. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:27, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- The first is a edit, not a revert. Chanheigeorge (talk) 05:55, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- Not quite.
- @Drmies: @Walter Görlitz: I have only reverted three times, so I have not violated the WP:3RR. Again, I have stated twice my reasons for making the edit, citing specific passages of WP:OVERLINK. Neither of your edits have cited anything specific apart from the words "WP:OVERLINK" and "ugh no", and I would like to hear about your specific reasons for rejecting my edits. If there have been previous debates/consensus about whether host countries/bidding host countries should be linked from a football tournament, please point to it and I would like to read about it, otherwise if it is just one or a few editors making a decision about this, I personally don't understand this decision much. Chanheigeorge (talk) 05:36, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- Walter I'm glad I'm sitting next to my router or I'd never be able to load this damn talk page. Drmies (talk) 05:29, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- Chanheigeorge, the onus is on you to argue (on the talk page, not in an edit summary that continues the edit warring) that in this case our usual guideline should be broken. As for the number of reverts, meh--don't fetishize the count. Breaking the 3RR rule is one thing that marks edit warring, but edit warring is also an attitude that is disruptive far beyond 3 reverts in 24 hours. Drmies (talk) 15:08, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- And can you archive parts of this talk page please? Drmies (talk) 15:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
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UEFA Nations League
Hello, though there's still a month yet, I was wondering about a few things with the UEFA Nations League. For the goalscorers, I imagine each league will have a section to list all the scorers, though what about the main article? Should all be listed, such as UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying#Goalscorers? Or only the top, such as 2018 FIFA World Cup qualification (UEFA)#Top goalscorers? Or maybe in a table (given the competition's unique format), such as 2017–18 UEFA Champions League#Top goalscorers? Also, should the "overall ranking" tables be updated during the competition, or only once the league phase (and the finals for the top 4) is complete? If the tables are updated throughout the competition, should the top 4 be left blank? Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 01:22, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: For goalscorers, let's say Ronaldo scores five goals in League A, and some player scores six goals in League D, would people "compare" them and consider the latter player to be a better goalscorer in this competition? Or perhaps, people would consider to play in different competitions and not directly compare them (I know players also play in different groups in World Cup or Euro qualifying, but at least the groups have similar strengths). So I think for goalscorers, it's probably better to keep four separate lists, and for the overall page maybe just display the top ten goalscorers for each league (or even fewer, like top five, because there are very few games we may even include players with one goal if we get to top ten). As for the overall ranking, my feeling is that people will update it throughout the league phase, and it would actually be a little weird to display every team but leave the top four blank. So perhaps we should keep some note which indicate the top four teams are decided not by the league phase standings but by the top four competition. For example, the positions of the top four teams are all set to "1" or "TBD" prior to the finals competition. Chanheigeorge (talk) 02:35, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- I agree, it would be a bit strange given the different levels, perhaps like the table below, or something different/adjusted?
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- I also agree with the overall table, once the competition starts, a note can be added, and the position column can be adjusted. Also, what about the qualification column/status letters related to the Euro qualifying playoffs? I imagine the only column notes/status letters used for the Nations League should be for promotion/relegation/qualification to finals? And the status letters for the 16 UNL group winners should be added only to the Euro qualifying group tables (i.e. (X) Assured of at least play-offs.)? Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 05:08, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: The top scorers table looks good. Thanks! As for the notes, I think note "(X) Assured of at least Euro qualifying play-offs." is good. Maybe also something like "(Y) Assured of position within their group." for teams which are certain of finishing 2nd, 3rd or 4th? Chanheigeorge (talk) 05:12, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, lost you at the last part, using 'Y' for which competition? S.A. Julio (talk) 06:39, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: Whether teams are locked into 2nd, 3rd or 4th place in their group (cos they are compared against each other in the overall table). Obviously not as important as 1st place (which gives you the play-off place). Having it or not having it is okay to me. Chanheigeorge (talk) 06:55, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Ah, I understand. To clarify, should the following status letters be used (and corresponding qualification columns), or any additions/adjustments? Where should the 'X' go?
- UNL league tables: Qualified (for Lg A winners, until end of league phase) (+ Y?); Promoted + Relegated (permanent, like 2017–18 Premier League)
- UNL overall tables: Champion? (permanent for Finals winner)
- Euro qualifier group tables: Qualified (until end of group stage) (+ X?)
- I'd imagine mixing/duplicating the Euro qualification letters/column notes on the UNL tables might be a bit confusing, especially since they would change in the following year? S.A. Julio (talk) 07:39, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: For the UNL league group tables, only "Q" (or "P") and "R". For the UNL league overall table, I don't know, do we need any indicators at all? For the Euro qualifier group tables, I suppose it can get very complicated if we count all possible combinations of qualifying through groups or play-offs (1. have qualified through groups; 2. may qualify through groups, otherwise definitely in play-offs; 3. may qualify through groups, otherwise maybe in play-offs; 4. may qualify through groups, otherwise no chance of play-offs; 5. cannot qualify through groups, but definitely in play-offs; 6. cannot qualify through groups, maybe in play-offs; 7. cannot qualify through groups, no chance of play-offs, i.e. eliminated from Euro). Chanheigeorge (talk) 08:17, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, there are quite a few combinations, so maybe the following status letters for the above:
- 1: Qualified to the phase indicated
- 2: X Assured of at least play-offs
- 5: Advance to a further round
- 6: Y Cannot qualify directly, but can still qualify via play-offs
- 7: Eliminated
- Would 3/4 need a letter? And agreed, overall table shouldn't need anything (only mentioned 'C' because of tables such as Template:2017 Major League Soccer season table). Also, would you say the UNL Finals goalscorers should be counted with the rest of the League A (in the scorer sections on the Lg A and main articles)? S.A. Julio (talk) 16:13, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- 3 is the default state at the beginning, so no need for status. 4 maybe like status Z? As for whether we should separate league phase and final phase goalscorers, I guess it depends on how UEFA treat these stats, and it's hard to tell at this point. Chanheigeorge (talk) 13:15, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: For the UNL league group tables, only "Q" (or "P") and "R". For the UNL league overall table, I don't know, do we need any indicators at all? For the Euro qualifier group tables, I suppose it can get very complicated if we count all possible combinations of qualifying through groups or play-offs (1. have qualified through groups; 2. may qualify through groups, otherwise definitely in play-offs; 3. may qualify through groups, otherwise maybe in play-offs; 4. may qualify through groups, otherwise no chance of play-offs; 5. cannot qualify through groups, but definitely in play-offs; 6. cannot qualify through groups, maybe in play-offs; 7. cannot qualify through groups, no chance of play-offs, i.e. eliminated from Euro). Chanheigeorge (talk) 08:17, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: Whether teams are locked into 2nd, 3rd or 4th place in their group (cos they are compared against each other in the overall table). Obviously not as important as 1st place (which gives you the play-off place). Having it or not having it is okay to me. Chanheigeorge (talk) 06:55, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, lost you at the last part, using 'Y' for which competition? S.A. Julio (talk) 06:39, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: The top scorers table looks good. Thanks! As for the notes, I think note "(X) Assured of at least Euro qualifying play-offs." is good. Maybe also something like "(Y) Assured of position within their group." for teams which are certain of finishing 2nd, 3rd or 4th? Chanheigeorge (talk) 05:12, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
- I also agree with the overall table, once the competition starts, a note can be added, and the position column can be adjusted. Also, what about the qualification column/status letters related to the Euro qualifying playoffs? I imagine the only column notes/status letters used for the Nations League should be for promotion/relegation/qualification to finals? And the status letters for the 16 UNL group winners should be added only to the Euro qualifying group tables (i.e. (X) Assured of at least play-offs.)? Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 05:08, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Alright. Also, as UEFA put out a discplinary chart, should there be discipline sections on the league articles, similar to UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying Group C#Discipline and 2018 FIFA World Cup qualification – UEFA Group E#Discipline? S.A. Julio (talk) 13:49, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
- Honestly I don't really care much about who is suspended for which match during Nations League matches. If people keep it updated then it's fine. Chanheigeorge (talk) 15:12, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
- Alright, probably not necessary (makes sense as its closer to club continental group stages). A few final questions (some unrelated to NL):
- In the above goalscoring table example, should the players still be sorted by nationality (or surname instead)?
- I created {{Goalscorers}}, should 2 own goals display above 1? (I originally put 1 OG above 2, as it seems similar to a scale from positive to negatives)
- For the OFC women's qualifiers, currently Tamanitoakula is listed with scoring Fiji's first goal (per OFC's Twitter and video, where it seems to deflect off her head, along with other sources: [3], [4], [5]), but the OFC report and article list Nasau, which should be listed?
- Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 23:25, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
- 1 & 2. I'd say go with whichever option you are more comfortable with. 3. Usually I'd say go with the OFC report, but OFC did tweet themselves to make the correction, and her name is also given in the video, so maybe it's better to stay this way and give it to Tamanitoakula. Chanheigeorge (talk) 01:11, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Was again wondering about the status letters for the Nations League, initially I viewed the NL similar to leagues (where clearly there isn't a need to say X can't be relegated). However, given the uniqueness of the competition maybe other statuses should be used? For example:
- League A
- Qualified to the phase indicated
- Relegated (permanent)
- X Cannot be relegated
- This status does not need to be applied to teams already qualified for the Finals
- Once a team has been relegated from a group, these statuses can be removed
- Y Cannot qualify for Nations League Finals
- This status does not need to be applied to already relegated teams
- Once a team has secured qualification for the Finals from a group, these statuses can be removed
- League B and C
- Promoted (permanent)
- Relegated (permanent)
- X Cannot be relegated
- This status does not need to be applied to already promoted teams
- Once a team has been relegated from a group, these statuses can be removed
- Y Cannot be promoted
- This status does not need to be applied to already relegated teams
- Once a team has been promoted from a group, these statuses can be removed
- League D
- Promoted (permanent)
- Y Cannot be promoted
- Once a team has been promoted from a group, these statuses can be removed
Should another status letter be used for teams that X and Y would apply to (stay in league), or just use both? And maybe one for League C teams who may at best finish third (and one for Group C1)? Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 23:55, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: I think the P, Q, R, X, Y statuses are good enough. For reference, see this UEFA.com article for example: [6]. Chanheigeorge (talk) 04:19, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- Also, I was wondering about the table of the teams for the 2020–21 edition, should we show promotion/relegation with something like this:
Pot | Team | P/R | Rank |
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1 | ![]() |
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5 |
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8 | ||
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9 | ||
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12 | |
2 | ![]() |
15 | |
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16 | |
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17 | |
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20 | |
3 | ![]() |
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21 |
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25 | |
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28 | ||
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30 |
- League A can just have a "P" in the column heading, and D only an "R". Obviously the pot/rank columns wouldn't be shown until known, and I think a blank cell is alright for teams which remain in their league (no movement). Thoughts? S.A. Julio (talk) 01:31, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- It looks good! Chanheigeorge (talk) 04:41, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- League A can just have a "P" in the column heading, and D only an "R". Obviously the pot/rank columns wouldn't be shown until known, and I think a blank cell is alright for teams which remain in their league (no movement). Thoughts? S.A. Julio (talk) 01:31, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Euro 2020
- Also, I've added UEFA Euro 2020 qualifying play-offs#Teams selected to give an overview of the spot allocation for all the teams. Thoughts? Typically listing all the teams on a sub-article shouldn't be necessary, but given the complex selection method for the playoffs I thought it would be helpful to include. Also, I wanted to somehow denote the UNL group winners (given their unique status), should something different than italics be used? S.A. Julio (talk) 13:52, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: It looks okay, but I cannot think of a better way for now. Also, do we need to indicate which play-off paths the teams enter assuming the current 16 teams are selected? For example, right now obviously Path A play-offs have the League A group winners, etc., but once some of the group winners qualify outright, this will be updated (e.g. if there are only 3 League A left, the Path A play-offs will contain a team from League B I suppose?). But I understand that sometimes a draw may also happen to decide which path a team may go to, so it is complicated. Also what is the criteria for seeding? Obviously if the current 16 teams are there, then Path B, C, D are decided based on UNL rankings (Path A to be decided by UNL Finals). But what happens if a play-off path contains teams from different leagues, I suppose they will also be seeded by UNL rankings, but I am not 100% sure. Chanheigeorge (talk) 14:55, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- Also, I've added UEFA Euro 2020 qualifying play-offs#Teams selected to give an overview of the spot allocation for all the teams. Thoughts? Typically listing all the teams on a sub-article shouldn't be necessary, but given the complex selection method for the playoffs I thought it would be helpful to include. Also, I wanted to somehow denote the UNL group winners (given their unique status), should something different than italics be used? S.A. Julio (talk) 13:52, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
As for the first question: I was thinking the table would help explain the first step of the play-off setup process, which is selecting the specific teams. The "draw" section can explain the second step, determining which paths teams participate in. Maybe this currently is not clear that the table is about leagues, not paths, as demonstrated by a recent edit from an IP.
For most of the teams which are not group winners in Leagues B and C, the path they enter will probably not be immediately known, as a draw will likely be required. This is because once the 16 play-off participants are determined after 20 teams have directly qualified for Euro 2020, they'll see how many of these 16 qualified by league (i.e. 1 from League A, 5 from Lg B, 6 from Lg C, 4 from Lg D). When more than four teams qualify from a league, the draw decides which non-group winners "stay" in the path of their league, and which must go into a higher league's path.
League D's path should be simple, as (1) no League D teams are likely to qualify directly, (2) it is unlikely any playoff spots will be passed to the bottom tier, and (3) none of the group winners are hosts for Euro 2020.
As for seeding, all pairings will be decided by UNL ranking, even if from different leagues. Too add to all this, there may be pots used for seeding in the play-off draw, depending on the scenario. And of course UEFA added the nice "possibility of final tournament hosts having to be drawn into different paths". S.A. Julio (talk) 21:04, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: I have to thank your answers, because I am starting to get this play-off thing! Regarding the IP edit [7], I don't think it is correct because in the scenario that all League B group winners qualify outright, then (if my understanding is correct) League A teams can drop down to Path B because the group winner protection is no longer necessary for Path B. So I think regarding path allocation and seeding, the only thing we can be certain now is that: 1. All 16 group winners, if they enter the play-offs, will enter the path of their own league. 2. Bosnia, Scotland and Georgia are certain to be 1 seed, Ukraine, Norway and Macedonia are certain to be no worse than 2 seed (so these six teams will at least host the semi-finals), etc. Chanheigeorge (talk) 06:48, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, also the "teams selected" section is just meant to be an overview of the teams advancing to the playoffs by league, not trying to indicate the composition of the paths (which the IP didn't realise). And I actually had forgotten about the fact that if all League B group winners qualify directly, then League A teams may drop down into Path B (had to recheck their media briefing, which is now offline but archived here). Should that somehow be explained better on the playoff article? (I'm not exactly sure how this would work if, say the extremely unlikely scenario of all League D group winners qualifying directly.) This whole playoff format is quite a lot to try to understand... And now there may be two draws for the final tournament, no idea how that works... S.A. Julio (talk) 06:33, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- The more I think of this, there seems to be a few scenarios where teams (possibly even group winners) may move up or down in terms of play-off paths. Without being 100% sure, I am hesitant to add anything definite about which teams may play in which path and with which seeding, so I think right now the information presented is enough. Over time during qualifying, I am sure there will be more information (and more debates) about how the play-offs are constructed. Thanks for your work again! Chanheigeorge (talk) 06:42, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, also the "teams selected" section is just meant to be an overview of the teams advancing to the playoffs by league, not trying to indicate the composition of the paths (which the IP didn't realise). And I actually had forgotten about the fact that if all League B group winners qualify directly, then League A teams may drop down into Path B (had to recheck their media briefing, which is now offline but archived here). Should that somehow be explained better on the playoff article? (I'm not exactly sure how this would work if, say the extremely unlikely scenario of all League D group winners qualifying directly.) This whole playoff format is quite a lot to try to understand... And now there may be two draws for the final tournament, no idea how that works... S.A. Julio (talk) 06:33, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
With the Euro qualifying draw I've added an 'X' status letter to the 16 UNL group winners, but another editor removed it as it wasn't "due to performance in the mentioned competition". Though technically true, surely it is still necessary to see where teams stand in the competition (being unable to finish top 2 does not mean eliminated). Thoughts? And once a team is guaranteed to advance to the playoffs, should we highlight this in the qualification column permanently? (example below)
Pos | Team | Pld | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts | Qualification |
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1 | ![]() |
7 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 23 | 5 | +18 | 17 | Qualify for final tournament |
2 | ![]() |
7 | 4 | 3 | 0 | 20 | 8 | +12 | 15 | |
3 | ![]() |
6 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 11 | 13 | −2 | 8 | |
4 | ![]() |
8 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 10 | 21 | −11 | 6 | Advance to play-offs |
5 | ![]() |
7 | 0 | 2 | 5 | 6 | 16 | −10 | 2 |
Rules for classification: Tiebreakers
(A) Advance to a further round; (Q) Qualified for the phase indicated
Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 16:45, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: I do share some reservations about the use of status symbols and colours in this case similar to the other editors, and I think we need more discussion for this. Perhaps we could take this to Template talk:UEFA Euro 2020 qualifying group tables? Chanheigeorge (talk) 17:09, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- Alright, I agree with opening a discussion, I wasn't as sure about the colours (which isn't a factor until teams start securing playoff spots later next year). However, for status letters, say a team can no longer finish in the top 2 of the group, but may still qualify for the playoffs. Typically, an 'E' status would be used when a team can't reach qualifying spots, however in this case the team is not actually eliminated from the Euros, as the playoff route is still a possibility. If there is no 'X' status letter (along with 'Y' and 'Z'), then it puts the 'E' status letter into a strange situation: it cannot be used at all, or it can only be used for teams who are also eliminated from the playoffs (with the latter case, it makes little sense to use an 'E' for some teams while not using an 'X' to explain the scenario of the others). S.A. Julio (talk) 00:31, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- Also, regarding colours and the qualification column, on the one hand the qualifying group stage does not play a role in advancing to the playoffs. However, for clubs it is standard to add the qualification note in league tables for cup winners, i.e. Template:2017–18 Süper Lig table and Template:2012–13 Premier League table. So I'm not exactly sure of the best option. S.A. Julio (talk) 08:03, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: I can see both sides of the argument. I am somewhat okay with the status symbols, but kind of uncomfortable with the colours, even if as you said, colours are routinely used in leagues where a team qualify with a method other than the league itself. But I guess it is somewhat different here because if the league champions win the cup, then the reserved Europa League place is redistributed through the league, but here the play-off places are never distributed by the qualifying group standings. Chanheigeorge (talk) 06:01, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- Good point, I'm alright with not using the colours. I initially intended to transclude the playoff "team selection" section to the main qualifying article only until the playoff draw, though now maybe it should stay permanently on the article (thereby taking the role of the playoff colour/qualification column note typically used in the standings tables)? S.A. Julio (talk) 11:25, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: I think it is a good idea to transclude it, since the main article is most likely more visited than the play-off article, so it should contain at any given point during qualifying, which 16 teams are "currently" selected, and at the end, which 16 teams and an explanation of how they are selected. Chanheigeorge (talk) 13:01, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- Good point, I'm alright with not using the colours. I initially intended to transclude the playoff "team selection" section to the main qualifying article only until the playoff draw, though now maybe it should stay permanently on the article (thereby taking the role of the playoff colour/qualification column note typically used in the standings tables)? S.A. Julio (talk) 11:25, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: I can see both sides of the argument. I am somewhat okay with the status symbols, but kind of uncomfortable with the colours, even if as you said, colours are routinely used in leagues where a team qualify with a method other than the league itself. But I guess it is somewhat different here because if the league champions win the cup, then the reserved Europa League place is redistributed through the league, but here the play-off places are never distributed by the qualifying group standings. Chanheigeorge (talk) 06:01, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- Also, regarding colours and the qualification column, on the one hand the qualifying group stage does not play a role in advancing to the playoffs. However, for clubs it is standard to add the qualification note in league tables for cup winners, i.e. Template:2017–18 Süper Lig table and Template:2012–13 Premier League table. So I'm not exactly sure of the best option. S.A. Julio (talk) 08:03, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- Alright, I agree with opening a discussion, I wasn't as sure about the colours (which isn't a factor until teams start securing playoff spots later next year). However, for status letters, say a team can no longer finish in the top 2 of the group, but may still qualify for the playoffs. Typically, an 'E' status would be used when a team can't reach qualifying spots, however in this case the team is not actually eliminated from the Euros, as the playoff route is still a possibility. If there is no 'X' status letter (along with 'Y' and 'Z'), then it puts the 'E' status letter into a strange situation: it cannot be used at all, or it can only be used for teams who are also eliminated from the playoffs (with the latter case, it makes little sense to use an 'E' for some teams while not using an 'X' to explain the scenario of the others). S.A. Julio (talk) 00:31, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Also a bit interesting, seems they changed Article 21.03 on page 18 of the regulations compared to the older version, which no longer mentions discarding the result against 4th placed teams. So it seems the third placed ranking remains the same as 2016. S.A. Julio (talk) 02:01, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Futsal and beach soccer Copa Libertadores.
Would it be okay to add the 2018 Copa Libertadores de Futsal and 2018 Copa Libertadores de Beach Soccer to the Template:2018 in South American football (CONMEBOL)? Thanks. TurboGUY (talk) 22:30, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- @TurboGUY: I don't have a problem with it. Chanheigeorge (talk) 05:08, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks! TurboGUY (talk) 17:11, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
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I have expanded some in this page Hhkohh (talk) 09:10, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
FYI Hhkohh (talk) 15:20, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Also, Hope you can create CAF and others Hhkohh (talk) 15:20, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: CAF would be next. Chanheigeorge (talk) 15:37, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- okay, thanks Hhkohh (talk) 16:00, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: CAF would be next. Chanheigeorge (talk) 15:37, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
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Discussion at Template talk:2018–19 A-League table
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I see that you added additional links to Live Reports for the 2018 AFC U-19 Championship article. I removed them just now on the basis that Wikipedia is not a Live Score Service. Live in-Match reports - e.g. with live on-line commentary are not required. A single report after match completed is all that is required, except for perhaps the most major events such as FIFA World Cup, where there is generally both a FIFA Report and an AFC of other confederation report. Even where that is the case, these are post-game information. Matilda Maniac (talk) 16:33, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)+1, if we use two AFC report in national teams competition, it is too many. So just use STATS report in national teams competition. Or we will see three report in FIFA Qualifying (that I do not want to see 3 report) Hhkohh (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- But there is no consensus for club competition because we have put it several months Hhkohh (talk) 20:48, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Links to same article
Hi Chanheigorge. These edits of you, are those needed? Or even wanted? One may think there is a special article for the knock-out stage or so. I remember the infobox, where the number of teams was lkinked to the teams section. Those were delinked sometime. DOn't know on what ruling though. -Koppapa (talk) 06:09, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Koppapa: It's just for more uniform formatting at the main page 2019 FIFA Women's World Cup qualification, 'cos some of the knockout stage brackets have these links and some do not. Many of the pages I visit have them, e.g., 2019 FIFA U-20 World Cup#Bracket (which does not have a special article for the knock-out stage). Maybe it's not incredibly useful, but I don't see any harm in it, 'cos people can just, well, not click on those links. Chanheigeorge (talk) 06:16, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- FYI, i made it clearer as you don't need the article name when there is no sub-article. Kante4 (talk) 14:17, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Can you help me do a cleanup (fixing links and hide F.C.) in that article? Thanks Hhkohh (talk) 22:27, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
Oddly enough:
These two edits actually ate the text under the second |+ (i.e. not showing up). For some reason they weren't caught for over a month...? I have just fixed them (by basically putting the <br /> back), but figured that you might want to know that two |+ doesn't really work. - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 05:37, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Really WP:TOOSOON? I do not think so. But a new page review does. 2018 final will hold tomorrow and it is time to create some related article. What is your thoughts? Hhkohh (talk) 08:40, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: The draw is at least a month away (some time in December?), and we do not know the exact teams admitted by AFC yet. Seems a bit too early for me. Chanheigeorge (talk) 08:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: I suppose now with the draw date set for next week, it's probably time to work on the qualifying play-offs and group stage articles. Chanheigeorge (talk) 13:47, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- okay, I will work on AFC Champions League group stage tomorrow since some draw principles may change (maybe having 4 club pots and 1 pot contained 4 MA in each region or others but I am finding some reliable source before working on) and AFC Cup group stage on weekends Hhkohh (talk) 17:16, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: I suppose now with the draw date set for next week, it's probably time to work on the qualifying play-offs and group stage articles. Chanheigeorge (talk) 13:47, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Sourced?
Can you help me find this edit source or I will revert as unsourced, regards Hhkohh (talk) 14:21, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: I did a very basic search and nothing comes up. You should ask the editor for a source, and if none are provided, we should revert. Chanheigeorge (talk) 15:08, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
League color
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Discussion at Talk:2019 AFC Champions League#IDN league name
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nations league C
Just on the cannot be promoted thing - I would expect that to be taken as read in groups with a promotion sealed - otherwise you'd technically have to do it for all teams in the groups where promotion is sealed. I can understand why it might look weird with it not there - but I think it's best. 2A02:C7D:159:6A00:E425:822C:2B77:7838 (talk) 22:13, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
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Please look this article, we need spilt article again!
I think we should split into 5 articles (5 rounds) instead of 2 path article. Thoughts? Hhkohh (talk) 09:38, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
- Honestly I am never 100% sure what is the reason behind the issue of "maximum number of matches in a page". Is there a discussion where the whole issue is explained clearly? Chanheigeorge (talk) 09:41, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
- Too many matches will cause page in Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded. Pages in this category will cause some templates not displayed correctly. BTW, we also have previous UEL season qualifying pages in this category, that is too bad. Hhkohh (talk) 09:46, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: So the problem is too many templates, not too many matches. I say we get rid of a few templates, e.g., {{goal}}, {{TwoLegStart}} and/or {{TwoLegResult}}. It is more reasonable than splitting again. Chanheigeorge (talk) 16:01, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
- Too many matches will cause page in Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded. Pages in this category will cause some templates not displayed correctly. BTW, we also have previous UEL season qualifying pages in this category, that is too bad. Hhkohh (talk) 09:46, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
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2019 AFC Beach SoccerChampionship
The AFC is reporting that it is the 2nd edition of the tournament (the stats.the-afc page also has info on only one season), whereas the tournament has been played since quite a few years. Should we add the participation as 2nd in previous appearances (Since AFC is saying so) or write the info according to the previous editions being contested.--Anbans 585 (talk) 15:07, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- You can find the 2015 results under "FIFA BEACH SOCCER WORLD CUP 2015" [8]. I guess AFC are recognizing the 2017 version as the first official Championship, while previous editions are only "Beach Soccer World Cup qualifying competition". I guess I will just follow AFC's case since it is, well, easier to compile the teams table. :-) Chanheigeorge (talk) 06:07, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
2019 Caribbean Club Championship
Hello! Can you explain to me why you had changed the TT Pro League qualifiers for the competition above from 2018 to 2017? Jonytano20 (talk) 14:49, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- [9] "The two top teams in the 2018 season will qualify for the 2020 Caribbean Football Union (CFU) Club Championships."
- [10] "A win now for Stars will end Zoran Vranes’ men on high spirits against the side they will join at the 2019 CONCACAF Caribbean Club Championship as last season’s PL champions and runners-up respectively."
- [11] "At the end of the night’s action, however, the Couva Sharks had to settle for runners-up but will join Connection (37 points) at the 2020 CONCACAF Caribbean Club Championship for their credible effort while Sando and Police (both on 33 points and separated by goal-difference) finished third and fourth respectively. The Caribbean Club Championship—which serves as the qualifier tournament to the CONCACAF Champions League and CONCACAF League—will see last season’s PL champions and runners-up North East Stars and multiple-time former Caribbean champions Connection, respectively, will represent T&T at the 2019 edition which begins in January." Chanheigeorge (talk) 14:59, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Mauritian League
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CAF Champions League group stage
Shouldn't we hide the draw pots from the main page, similar to other seedings and draw procedures and make it just like other tournaments?--Anbans 585 (talk) 17:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Anbans 585: Don't mind either way. If you think the draw pots make the main page too long, you can hide them after the draw is made. Chanheigeorge (talk) 17:59, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Category:2017–18 in Asian association football leagues
- Category:2017–18 Asian domestic association football cups
- Category:2018 in Asian association football leagues
- Category:2018 Asian domestic association football cups
- Category:2018–19 in Asian association football leagues
- Category:2018–19 Asian domestic association football cups
- Category:2019 in Asian association football leagues
- Category:2019 Asian domestic association football cups
If I missed, please add it (do not forget to create red one), thanks Hhkohh (talk) 12:37, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Also, if you think some other articles should categorize into these categories, but I forgot those articles, please help me Hhkohh (talk) 22:32, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: I will take a look. BTW, the referees of many 2019 AFC Cup matches are also known (shown at the stats report links), so you can add them if you want. Chanheigeorge (talk) 10:50, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Doing these days though these days I am busy Hhkohh (talk) 09:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: I will take a look. BTW, the referees of many 2019 AFC Cup matches are also known (shown at the stats report links), so you can add them if you want. Chanheigeorge (talk) 10:50, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Category name
I do not know why the category name is Category:2018–19 Association football standings templates in Oceania instead of Category:2018–19 Association football standings in Oceania templates. Please explain it, thanks Hhkohh (talk) 14:13, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: It is just a mistake I made. You can rename them. Chanheigeorge (talk) 14:15, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- Chanheigeorge, rename will cause recategorizing. But you can go to WP:CFDS per WP:C2E (C2E:Author request). Bot will progress it after 48 hours if there is no opposition Hhkohh (talk) 14:21, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: I put them at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy already. Chanheigeorge (talk) 14:22, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- Chanheigeorge, rename will cause recategorizing. But you can go to WP:CFDS per WP:C2E (C2E:Author request). Bot will progress it after 48 hours if there is no opposition Hhkohh (talk) 14:21, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
While you update Template:2019 Liga de Elite table, please also update 2019 Liga de Elite, thanks Hhkohh (talk) 07:51, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Teamwork Barnstar |
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2018–19 Liga Nacional de Honduras
Dear User:Chanheigeorge, I think that if the 2018–19 article was moved, all other previous seasons should also be renamed to maintain consistency. Cheers.--Fifaddicted (talk) 03:51, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Fifaddicted: I think so too, if you are okay with the move. There are so many of them that I hope to move them later. Chanheigeorge (talk) 16:02, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
2019 CC
I have edit this page [12]. Can you look at this article again? Thanks Hhkohh (talk) 16:58, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: The entry rounds of teams are not correct. For example, SLV2 enter the preliminary round, while NCA1 enter the round of 16. Chanheigeorge (talk) 17:05, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: [13] Seeding possibly looks something like this, but given new format, just be safe and hide it for now. Chanheigeorge (talk) 18:18, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Agree. Well, I hope Concacaf can announce new seeding rules as soon as possible. Hhkohh (talk) 18:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- [14] Assume top eight teams in R16 seeded, next two teams plus PR winners unseeded, etc. Numbers can be updated as 2019 CONCACAF Champions League is played. Chanheigeorge (talk) 18:29, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Seen and will do the update if I am free. BTW, if we started writing 2020 CONCACAF League in August, do we still assume only CRC, HON and PAN can have two entries to enter round of 16 directly? Hhkohh (talk) 18:42, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Seems like the berths for round of 16 and preliminary round for each association are locked in "permanently" regardless of performance. Maybe we can put a disclaimer of "assuming same format as previous tournament". Chanheigeorge (talk) 18:48, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Seen and will do the update if I am free. BTW, if we started writing 2020 CONCACAF League in August, do we still assume only CRC, HON and PAN can have two entries to enter round of 16 directly? Hhkohh (talk) 18:42, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- [14] Assume top eight teams in R16 seeded, next two teams plus PR winners unseeded, etc. Numbers can be updated as 2019 CONCACAF Champions League is played. Chanheigeorge (talk) 18:29, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Agree. Well, I hope Concacaf can announce new seeding rules as soon as possible. Hhkohh (talk) 18:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Hhkohh: [13] Seeding possibly looks something like this, but given new format, just be safe and hide it for now. Chanheigeorge (talk) 18:18, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
U16 OFC
Hi, thanks for updating the above page (and all the other good work you do). One little thing, if removing anything, particularly with named refs, ("ref name=") can you remember to do a quick scan of theArticle to check the ref isn't used further down as well, as it cause Cite errors. No major, fixed that one. Cheers ClubOranjeT 06:50, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
2019 ACL knockout stage round of 16 matchups
I saw this year: Group A vs Group B & Group C vs Group D & Group E vs Group F & Group G vs Group H in [15]. It is unlike previous year Hhkohh (talk) 13:21, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- The fixtures published by the media guide is the same last year: [16]. Of course, it is possible AFC have changed it and the media guide is wrong. Chanheigeorge (talk) 14:51, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- AFC sometimes changed their rules frequently and also made some mistakes. (For example, last week they wrote ACL MD6 obviously wrong kickoff time in their website (because MD6 matches in a group should be kickoff in the same time) and now they removed!) Maybe we can write a disclaimer about this? Hhkohh (talk) 16:23, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
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Nomination for merging of Template:GoalsPerMatch
Template:GoalsPerMatch has been nominated for merging with Template:Goalscorers. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Hhkohh (talk) 14:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Merging tables
When you merge tables, we should leave attribution in edit summary. Just write who contributed this template is okay. I will undo and redo your merge later Hhkohh (talk) 22:50, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Flagicons for clubs
Hello, as you may have noticed I've created the template {{fba}}, which makes it easy to link to football associations with a flag (e.g. {{fba|RSA}}
displays South Africa). Also, I've opened a discussion here at WikiProject Football regarding flagicons on continental club competition articles which you may be interested in. S.A. Julio (talk) 07:39, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Please add Mendiola F.C. 1991 and Philippine Air force in the tables since they have a match on April 27 Thank you
UEFA Champions League 2019-20 edits
Hi, I'm here to bring to your attention, since you're one of the most active users on the page interested by this situation, a series of edits that have been made by Matthew111110 not only today but in a long period of time. Given that I cannot do that much to stop this problem, can you bring it to someone else attention or at least discuss it (if it hasn't been done yet) in the right section? Those edits are mostly useless and the user is practically vandalizing the page with them. I think we cannot assume good faith anymore at this point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.53.252.28 (talk) 21:38, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
- You can report vandalism at the page Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Chanheigeorge (talk) 14:49, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I'm new and tried my best to edit the Europa League 19/20 page but need your help - FC Pyunik moved into CL qualifying due to FC Ararat-Armenia only being two years old and not getting a UEFA licence. I assume this Champions League page also needs edited. --AndyMc93 (talk) 09:15, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
- @AndyMc93: This has not been confirmed officially by any authority (e.g. UEFA, FFA or any of the clubs). For example, see today's news in Armenian football site: [17]</ref> Chanheigeorge (talk) 15:46, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
about Mechelen
UEFA confirmed that Mechelen (CW) Belgian side will compete in the 2019-20 Europa League. Can you please remove the [BEL] note? I don't trust myself to remove it without deleting something I shouldn't. thanks anyway! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItsMilkShake (talk • contribs) 10:47, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Template:2019–20 Argentine Primera División table & relegation table(?)
Hello! Would it be possible for you to create the Template:2019–20 Argentine Primera División table? I looked into doing it myself but, if I'm honest, I don't have a clue if I'd do it correctly. As a side note, if you do: Would a relegation table template be able to be created? I plan on creating seasons for Argentine teams, so would make sense if that was shown too. Of course you do not have to, I could request it after all, but I thought I'd ask you first as I noticed you created the 2018–19 one. R96Skinner (talk) 18:36, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Kabuscorp relegation
I would like to draw your attention to the fact that Kabuscorp has only been relegated, meaning it maintains its position as the 4th-ranked team in the girabola and therefore eligible to play the confederation cup! Valmir144 (talk) 21:28, 7 June 2029 (UTC)
- @Valmir144: Please check if my edits to Template:2018–19 Girabola table are okay. Chanheigeorge (talk) 12:07, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:2018–19 Sudan Premier League tables
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I beg you too, open link and add correct logo on transport united page, one vandal locked 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
https://www.facebook.com/TUFCBHUTAN/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.121.22 (talk) 09:28, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_United_F.C.
More logos:
Terton
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C._Tertons
Druk united
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druk_United_F.C#
Ugyen academy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugyen_Academy_F.C.#
Paro
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paro_F.C.#
Druk Stars
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druk_Star_F.C.#
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan_National_League
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thimphu_League
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Nomination for deletion of Template:2015 AFC Cup Group A
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Nomination for deletion of Template:2018 AFC Champions League group tables
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2019 FIFA WWC
While I understand your comment "this full scenario should be explained; group stage tiebreakers are also kept like fair play points even though they were never used in the tournament" regarding the qualification methods for the special Olympic qualifying playoffs, I would also put to you that using your logic, the "1st Place - Group A" placeholders could also be kept as "full explanations". The special Olympic qualifying event is *as needed* by UEFA, and in this case it is not. Explaining what *would* have happened, now that it is no longer possible, seems a waste of space. Since this is a "living" article that takes into account real-time information, leaving no-longer relevant data in this section defeats the purpose of keeping the article current. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ycpguy82 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- I think some explanation that it is possible that the World Cup itself may not be enough to decide the Olympic spots should be kept. However, I can shorten that part if that is desirable to you. Chanheigeorge (talk) 21:19, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- I did leave in a statement regarding teams potentially using a qualifying event, and then indicated that it was no longer necessary. I am fine compromising with shortening that section, however I would also propose moving the two scenarios above the list of UEFA nations and displaying that text with what *would have been* necessary prior to the NED-JPN result, keeping the possibilities together and in a visible section for those searching. This is a tricky situation because the article was basically set up to track both the FIFA Women's World Cup and UEFA qualification to the Olympics; once information was added regarding a possible *additional* event beyond the FWWC, it became a multi-purposed article in effect and perhaps future templates could consider moving information about any subsequent needed rounds/events to the Olympic qualification page instead? Thanks! Honestly not trying to be a pain.
- See my latest edit [18]. Chanheigeorge (talk) 21:45, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- I did leave in a statement regarding teams potentially using a qualifying event, and then indicated that it was no longer necessary. I am fine compromising with shortening that section, however I would also propose moving the two scenarios above the list of UEFA nations and displaying that text with what *would have been* necessary prior to the NED-JPN result, keeping the possibilities together and in a visible section for those searching. This is a tricky situation because the article was basically set up to track both the FIFA Women's World Cup and UEFA qualification to the Olympics; once information was added regarding a possible *additional* event beyond the FWWC, it became a multi-purposed article in effect and perhaps future templates could consider moving information about any subsequent needed rounds/events to the Olympic qualification page instead? Thanks! Honestly not trying to be a pain.
Nomination for deletion of Template:2016 AFC Champions League Group A
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Oceania Football Center
Hello Chanheigeorge. My name is Pedro and I'm from Oceania Football Center (facebook page that tries to cover football in Oceania).
I saw you create a lot of posts about local football. Would you like to join us? We also have a What's App group with guys from all over the world — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amadeu1997 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
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"2019 J.League Cup / Copa Sudamericana Championship Final" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Nomination for deletion of Template:2018–19 Liga Nacional de Honduras Apertura table
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Euro qualifying play-offs
Hello, with UEFA tracking the play-off participants, I think this should now be noted at UEFA Euro 2020 qualifying play-offs#Teams selected? I've added a letter to note this in the table, does this seem like an adequate method? And should it use any other status letters similar to the group tables (i.e. E and the custom notes Y and Z), or should it just be limited the current note T as well as A (advance to play-offs)? Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 15:29, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: Wouldn't it be better to mark the teams based on the paths (A, B, C, D) they are selected? Chanheigeorge (talk) 15:34, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- But this wouldn't always be known? The play-off participants can always be determined, but the path which they enter isn't necessarily certain based on the number of teams qualified per league, or if they are a final tournament host (both of which could be used for seeding in the playoff draw). Currently this applies to Bulgaria and Romania. Or with the current standings, UEFA could decide that as tournament hosts, Romania would have to go in Path B, apart from Scotland. S.A. Julio (talk) 15:46, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: It is quite complicated! I guess from a status point of view here are the seven possibilities of any team:
- But this wouldn't always be known? The play-off participants can always be determined, but the path which they enter isn't necessarily certain based on the number of teams qualified per league, or if they are a final tournament host (both of which could be used for seeding in the playoff draw). Currently this applies to Bulgaria and Romania. Or with the current standings, UEFA could decide that as tournament hosts, Romania would have to go in Path B, apart from Scotland. S.A. Julio (talk) 15:46, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Certain to qualify for final tournament directly (i.e. clinched top two spot in group, green colour).
- Possible to qualify for final tournament directly; if not, certain to enter play-offs (i.e. yellow colour).
- Possible to qualify for final tournament directly; if not, possible to enter play-offs.
- Possible to qualify for final tournament directly; if not, not possible to enter play-offs.
- Not possible to qualify for final tournament directly; but certain to enter play-offs (i.e. blue colour).
- Not possible to qualify for final tournament directly; but possible to enter play-offs.
- Not possible to qualify for final tournament directly; also impossible to enter play-offs (i.e. eliminated from Euro 2020 entirely).
What do you think is the best way to display these seven possibilities? Chanheigeorge (talk) 15:53, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- So for the group tables, I was thinking: 1=Q, 2=X, 3=(empty, as default state), 4=Z, 5=A, 6=Y, 7=E. However, I was hoping to take a simpler approach for the playoff selection table, as this whole process is complicated enough as it is. So those three colours can track the most important states in determining the playoff participants (with 'A' being used in conjunction in blue), while 'T' will display the current teams which are "in". (Previously there was no way to track the status of teams in the playoffs, unlike groups where you can look at the standings.)
- OR: The use of letters and colours could be swapped, with the table acting as an alternate form of the current group tables. Green would be used for the top two teams of each group, while blue would be used for who would enter the playoffs. Status letters would be used identically to the group tables. However, this would require a greater effort to update, and I'm unsure if it would be more confusing or not. I've left both versions below, thoughts? S.A. Julio (talk) 17:06, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Version 1 (FIN qualified to finals, BUL assured playoffs)
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- GW Nations League group winner
- H UEFA Euro 2020 host
- Qualified directly for the final tournament
- / (A) Advanced to play-offs
- Assured of a play-off spot, but may still qualify directly for the final tournament
- (T) Based on the qualifying group stage standings and which teams would therefore qualify for the final tournament, the noted team would currently advance to the play-offs.
Version 2 (SMR eliminated, FIN qualified to finals, BUL assured playoffs)
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- GW Nations League group winner
- H UEFA Euro 2020 host
- Team in position to qualify for final tournament (top two of each group)
- Team in position to advance to play-offs
- (Q) Qualified for final tournament
- (X) Assured of at least play-offs
- (Z) May qualify directly, but cannot advance to play-offs
- (A) Advanced to play-offs.
- (Y) Cannot qualify directly, but may still advance to play-offs
- (E) Eliminated
- @S.A. Julio: I guess version 1 is better? Also perhaps red colour for scenario 7 (eliminated entirely from Euro 2020), and then for scenario 3, 4 and 6, use status only. For version 2, you have to keep track of the current standings after each result is known, won't it be too complicated as you then have to work out the play-off teams yourself, which is not quite possible unless UEFA also update their own news article. Chanheigeorge (talk) 17:21, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late reply, got caught up in the qualifiers. Both versions keep track of who would be in the play-offs (whether noted by T or blue colour), and it is fairly easy to determine the teams (the path formation is the difficult part). Only difference between the versions is that #2 looks closer to the end product (just updated live), and visually it might be easier to follow how teams are selected in #2 (similar to how group tables are coloured). Maybe the other status letters should be used only on the group tables given the number of possibilities. Also hopefully you can help keep an eye on the statuses at Template:UEFA Euro 2020 qualifying group tables? I'm not very good with these types of permutations, it takes a bit of work to determine if a team is truly eliminated. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:20, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: Thanks! The current version looks quite good actually. I suggest maybe we should also add other statuses such as (Y) to the table for uniformity? Right now there are four teams whose only chance to qualify is through play-offs, and I think for the readers it is a useful piece of information to indicate at the table. Chanheigeorge (talk) 14:23, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: Also status (E) for San Marino. Chanheigeorge (talk) 14:28, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Alright sounds good to me, I wasn't sure at first if using all the status letters would add too much clutter/confusion, but it seems okay now. S.A. Julio (talk) 13:26, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- @S.A. Julio: Also status (E) for San Marino. Chanheigeorge (talk) 14:28, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Hey, if you're interested I've created a spreadsheet (after running a script on UEFA's simulator) with all the possible combinations of final positions (currently 41,472) based off the table here. Trying to think about the combinations gave me a headache, so I thought it would be useful to compile this sheet. If you go to Data → Filter views → Create new temporary filter view, you can click the green sort icon on a column to filter by a team's possibilities. S.A. Julio (talk) 08:42, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Enjoy
2019 FIFA U-17 World Cup squads, Brazil have announced their squad, others are imminent. Too hard to do on an iPad, so thought I'd leave the actual squads for you ;). Link in page. Enjoy. ClubOranjeT 06:29, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- Meh, copied the one from Brazil U17 page. You might check it though, and maybe redlink them all. ClubOranjeT 07:45, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Stop vandal from al ittihad and al wehda saudi pages — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.142.149.73 (talk) 07:58, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
cup
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Cup_(Bhutan)# Check and edit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.142.155.177 (talk) 10:03, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hey, sorry about the revert. I clicked once too many and hit the rollback button. Sorry again... Kante4 (talk) 16:00, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, suppose there would be a football player with the full name "Prince of Wales" and he would score in a match. Would you use " 72' Of Wales" or "
72' of Wales"? The word "van" in Dutch names can be compared to "of" or "from". For example Daniëlle van de Donk; a "donk" is a kind of hill, so it's "Daniëlle from the Hill", or Stefanie van der Gragt; "gragt" is most likely an old fashioned way of writing "gracht", which is a canal (within a city), so "Stefanie from the Canal". Whether "van" should be translated as "from" or "of" depends on the person. In general it becomes "of" if we're dealing with nobility. Compare it with Charles of Wales or Charles from Wales. Anyway, words like "van", "de", "der", "des", "het", "'t" in Dutch names are never written with capitals. For Belgian names it's a different story. --Sb008 (talk) 15:05, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Sb008: But what if the surname is written at the beginning of the sentence. "Van de Donk scored a goal in the 55th minute." Here, you have to capitalize "van" as "Van", right? Chanheigeorge (talk) 16:04, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
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ITN recognition for 2019 Copa Libertadores Final
On 25 November 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2019 Copa Libertadores Final, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:58, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:March 2020 events in Africa
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in first sentence club must be shortened to "paro" and either no confirmation for 0 (0) stats with tertons so make it empty, otherwise its clear vandalism! Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.133.254.196 (talk) 11:00, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2019_CONCACAF_League&curid=57221283&diff=933961281&oldid=933892833 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fernando_Castillo&action=edit&redlink=1 the article is a redlink. Are you saying it shouldn't be? Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:51, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lanka_Army_SC_(football)# Please update — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.0.174.42 (talk) 15:21, 7 January 2020 (UTC) and afc cup preliminary edit for paro stadium — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.98.196 (talk) 13:28, 8 January 2020 (UTC) PLEASE MUST BE EXPLAINED WHY PARO USES OTHER GROUND — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.1.0.155 (talk) 15:48, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Papua New Guinea FA Cup
Hi there! Firstly, wanted to say how much I appreciate all the work you put in, especially on OFC-related articles. I've just noticed you made the page Papua New Guinea FA Cup, and as a big fan of PNG football, I'm really not sure if there's enough notability here. The cup isn't really the same as other FA Cups, it's a competition where the regions or regional football associations put together a team made up of the best players from that region. As you've noticed, it's not like the likes of Hekari or Lae City put a team together to try to reach the final. The above is the reason why I've held off creating a page about it in the past. Do let me know your thoughts on this; I personally don't feel there's enough sources or notability, but I'd like to hear your thoughts. MrMarkBGregory (talk) 08:22, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- @MrMarkBGregory: Thanks for your message. The source is from RSSSF [19]. The cited editions are between 1988 and 2006 (uncertain whether there are editions afterwards). Obviously at that time, football in PNG was organized in a significantly different way compared to now, as there were probably no professional clubs like Hekari United or Lae City at that time, or they were just newly established. I think the question is, was the PNGFA Cup, at the time of its holding, considered a significant tournament in PNG? If the answer is yes, then it is notable because it reflects the history of football in PNG. Just like we would create articles of historical tournaments between amateur clubs when amateur clubs were the dominant teams during that period, because these tournaments were considered significant at that time, even though tournaments between amateur clubs held in the present day are not considered significant and thus non-notable. Chanheigeorge (talk) 11:30, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
2020 Africa U 17 Women's qualifiers
Do you have any information about the African qualifiers for the next edition of the FIFA U17 Women's World Cup?--Anbans 585 (talk) 00:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Anbans 585: 2020 African U-17 Women's World Cup Qualifying Tournament: [20]. [21], [22], [23] Chanheigeorge. (talk) 13:09, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Ho Chi Minh City FC
fix note in afc cup group without viet alphabet as it redirects page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.108.189 (talk) 15:10, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
update continental record for defenders and paro — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.142.152.120 (talk) 14:58, 22 January 2020 (UTC) https://www.facebook.com/472342832788574/posts/2849540485068785/ New teams — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.142.147.97 (talk) 16:35, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
ADD NOTE FOR AL SHORTA PLAYING IN KARBALA....BAGHDAD IS SAFE????!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.93.8 (talk) 20:35, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:2020 UEFA European Under-19 Championship
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