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Hi

hi man. You are a really nice person because other bad people keep making bad things happen, but you fly in and save the day. Thanks.

= Eastmont

What's wrong with indicating East Mountain (disambiguation) at Eastmont (disambiguation) ? "Eastmont" literally means "East Mountain" -- 70.52.11.217 (talk) 05:28, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Thanks for letting me know. The purpose of disambiguation pages is to take words and terms that could mean many things, and create a list of them for people to choose from. I apologize for believing that this was a test. However, I think that the edits may confuse people and should remain as-is. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:27, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No subject

Hey,the brahma.com movie has been released and is have a very low rating. The movie is not good and the film is illogical — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.19.223.169 (talk) 06:53, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This edit is against Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. This is why I reverted your edit. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:27, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Brinok Solutions

You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 09:51, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cahk -  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:53, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

invited me on Teahouse

hello, iam a new user in Wikipedia i want to creating an article about an new show name Aapke Aa Jaane Se the will aired from Zee TV in 2018 so i want your that i mean can you please invited me on Teahouse i want to creating this please thank you . Tkallowed (talk) 12:07, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

this is a software problem

  • Kehr, Dave (August 20, 2017). "Jerry Lewis, Mercurial Comedian and Filmmaker, Dies at 91". The New York Times. Retrieved 2017-08-20. Three months later they were married, and on July 31, 1945, while Patti was living with Jerry's parents in Newark and he was performing at a Baltimore nightclub, she gave birth to the first of the couple's six sons, Gary, who in the 1960s had a series of hit records with his band Gary Lewis and the Playboys.
  • was referenced, I checked my browser, it was included in action= "publish changes", this not the first failure of the software, I have seen many similar recently.

64.175.41.122 (talk) 14:59, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I reverted your edits was because I thought that you didn't properly cite your source in-line with your changes. However, I see that you've done so and I apologize. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to assist you further. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:32, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Iqbal

Dear Oshwah,

Last para of background on Muhammad Iqbal writes :- 

    Iqbal was bayt in the Sufi Qadri order as he declared it in his speech at Mochidarwaza, Lahore in 1965:" I hereby take oath of being a strict follower of Imam Abu Hanifa and that me and my family has love and admiration towards the Sultan of Arab and Ajam (non-arab) Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani Ghouse Azam. (added on Auth of monthly magazine,Zia E Haram. Razai Mustafa, Gujranwala. 1975)

This complete para is doubtful due following reasons

1. Iqbal died in 1938 as per Wikipedia, so he cannot make this declaration in 1965Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Iqbal 2. Auth of monthly magazine,Zia E Haram. Razai Mustafa, Gujranwala may have sectarian/ sub sectarian bias, as it is religion based magazine, not a history journal.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).http://www.ziaulummahfoundation.org.uk/projects/zia-e-haram-magazine/

3. Iqbals overall message on religion was one Ummah (nation) and avoid sectarianism by following QuraanCite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). http://www.iqbal.com.pk/2011-10-24-05-45-35/924-poetical-works/kuliyat-e-iqbal-urdu/armaghan-e-hijaz-urdu/ibtada/305-iblees-ki-majlis-e-shura5.108.139.211 (talk) 16:45, 17 December 2017 (UTC) 5.108.139.211 (talk) 16:45, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My second edit relates to his House at Lahore

and that is confirmed/ authenticated by [[Javed Manzil]

Wikipedia Javed Manzil

Submitted for kin consideration5.108.139.211 (talk) 16:15, 17 December 2017 (UTC) 5.108.139.211 (talk) 16:15, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message. I definitely understand your concerns... a dead person definitely cannot make speeches later after their apparent "death date" in the article. So long as your changes are accurate and reference reliable sources in the article, that's perfectly fine. When I see changes made to the death date of people after it's been on the article for some time and without any source with the change, I typically will ask the user what the change was about and inquire for references to support it. Thanks for the message and the explanation; if you have any more questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to assist you. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:50, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings!

Season's Greetings!
Have a good one! -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 17:07, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There'sNoTime - Damnnnnn that image is ROCKIN' IT! Thanks ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:44, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Mull

I added two notable yachts to Gary Mull. Hard to site references as there is little documentation left from Palmer Johnson and no Records left fro Bob Derecktor. I crewed on Safari (ex Dora III) for a number of races in 1975, often competing against the other yacht I referred to, the Derecktor built La Forza del Destino. Oldsalt45 (talk) 20:44, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Oldsalt45, and thank you for leaving me a message with your explanation. According to the summary you left with your edit, you cite personal experience - this is considered original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. You can't cite your own experience, relationships, or even your own writings, research, or work here. Sources that are reliable are peer-reviewed and assert an acceptable level of verification that the information is real and true; original research does not. This is why we do not allow this. If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to assist you further. Thanks again for the message, and welcome to Wikipedia! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:55, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tonsilitis

Hey, look up "Betadine gargle", www will spill a million of links, its extremely efficient. 213.196.194.125 (talk) 21:09, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean with your message here. Can you elaborate further? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:56, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Ndidi

Hi. I wanted adding the link but you removed the edit so quickly. Will add it now nevertheless — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aghachi7 (talk • contribs) 21:29, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Aghachi7 - Thanks for leaving me a message with this information. I see that you've updated the article with the reference you were referring to here - thanks for doing that. Although it's certainly not required, you may want to consider adding your references and your content changes within the same edit together and not in separate ones. It will reduce confusion with other users who see this edit without a reference alongside it. If you have any more questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks again for the message. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:32, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

85.242.48.58 evading blocks

Please block 85.242.48.58 (talk · contribs) quickly. This user is a long-time trouble maker on Wikipedia, he/she won't stop. The user has been blocked several times; see Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive918. 21:43, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Now the page is showing the vandal's version and he/she's laughing at us. SLBedit (talk) 22:14, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
SLBedit Where is the vandalism exactly? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:21, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User is evading block, disrupting Wikipedia, removing reliable sources, adding unreliable sources... If you check the page's history, you'll know who the user is. SLBedit (talk) 22:22, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you do block them, could you please revoke their talk page access? Thank you! Hastiness (talk) 22:25, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
SLBedit - If there's suspicion of sock puppetry or block evasion, you need to file an SPI with the evidence so we can take action. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:33, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I won't fill anything for now. The user's behaviour is the same and has been blocked before. SLBedit (talk) 22:38, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

American Cooperative School of Tunis article edit

Hey, So, you rejected my edit to ACST's article because it was less than neutral. I actually happen to attend ACST and have full knowledge of the facts that I added and their objectivity. Could you please explain to me why you rejected my edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.224.143.64 (talk) 21:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Your edit here has multiple issues. It introduces many spelling errors and grammatical problems, and it updates and changes content without any references cited in order to verify the information you're changing. This is probably what I should have expressed on your talk page instead of any "neutral point of view issues". I also should remind you that your attendance with this school can be seen as a conflict of interest, which is a highly discouraged behavior. I recommend that you edit and expand other articles and topics that you don't have this issue with. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:37, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Amity Shlaes

As words can only fail me, look at <https://www.davosnewbies.com/posts/put-out-the-bunting-amity-shlaes-is-no-longer-writing-for-the-ft/#comments>, and the links contained therein. See also <https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Amity_Shlaes>. As for my previous tussles with another censor, look here: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad#Amity_Shlaes>

Hope this helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.0.189.127 (talk) 21:51, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

These references you provided aren't considered reliable to be used on this article - especially knowing that this is a biography of a living person. I highly recommend that you review and understand Wikipedia's policies on biographies of living people by referring to the link in this response. It's a policy that we take very seriously, and violating it repeatedly is disruptive and can result in being blocked - which I don't want to see happen to you. Please let me know if you have any questions about the policy, and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for leaving me a message - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:40, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Fox

I removed extraneous italics. Please try and look a little closer before you accuse me of adding "unreferenced or poorly referenced information". Thanks. 24.149.37.234 (talk) 22:03, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, you're right. I apologize. I reverted a bunch of edits on this article, and I went through and warned each person that contributed to the disruption. I must've had your IP on my list accidentally. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:06, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. I know it can get hectic. Just please fix that again. 24.149.37.234 (talk) 22:07, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It should be fixed now. Let me know if you still see any issues. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:09, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ludicrous

I don't even know why vandals bother any more. Keep up the great work! Boomer VialHappy Holidays! • Contribs 22:04, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WHAT DID I DO WRONG? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.18.150.60 (talk) 22:30, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You were continually adding unsourced information, possible original research, and then there's this. Take your pick. Boomer VialHappy Holidays! • Contribs 23:20, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your latest comment

I just received this from you:

"Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Amity Shlaes. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia."

which I greatly appreciate. As I have pointed out elsewhere, in WikiSpeak "controversial" merely serves as a synonym for "stupid". As for the general quality of contributions provided by anglophone Wikipedians, they tend to be representative of the myths to which final-year high-schoolers and college sophomores are beholden. Or what we nowadays refer to as "alternative facts."

Rest assured that I have no desire to edit WP articles. I just follow them so that I know what my students might surprise me with ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.0.189.131 (talk) 22:42, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If your internet connection is public or shared with other people, you probably received a warning for another user who edited from your same connection. To avoid this problem, consider creating an account. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:04, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

wikipedia editing on white dwarfs

Thank you,i think it was a typo...I tracked back and found it said älbino rat...Thank you for correcting my mistake — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:77F0:FD20:787B:B646:42B9:D3FD (talk) 00:12, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Why are you removing this?

@Hamishblair and Oshwah: Sorry about that rollback on Hubble's Law—complete accident.  — Kdrβats22 || Talk —  00:26, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

KdrBats22 - No problem. I was just confused as to what you were doing... haha. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:28, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Have patiente

I insert information by my city home so I I know more than the other revisoses, it's just going to take a while to finish the page and you are in my way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debfdaumas (talk • contribs) 00:38, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Eagleash - Can do. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:11, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Unconstructive editing has continued by same person. Clearly has paid no heed to the multiple comments and / or warnings at their TP. I don't want to revert again... Eagleash (talk) 16:12, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Reported at EW board & blocked indef. Eagleash (talk) 23:03, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Eagleash - Sorry for the delayed response. I was taking a break for the Christmas holiday. It looks like this user has since been blocked - do I still need to keep an eye on the article? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:07, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, (belated season's greetings!) Hopefully not necessary for you to do so. I still have it on my w'list in case the editor returns as a sock. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 19:12, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Colossal

Hi there, You protected Colossal (film) 2mins after a known vandal user:86.131.174.224 (see talkpage) made a last edit. He will take it as an encouraging victory. --Yug (talk) 01:36, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yug, and thanks for the message. I've been told this twice above, but neither person was able to provide me with exactly what vandalism this user added to the page. Have we filed an editing request? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:40, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
He do what I did to you today on one word, that you reverted, but on whole a dozen of additions and corrections.[1]
Massive revert with no justification is asymmetrical edition war.
You can see on my talkpage that I was leading him to edit and correct rather than brutally revert dozens of additions. Yug (talk) 01:46, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
[1]: ps, life come at me fast. #wikipedia --Yug (talk) 01:46, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I watched Colossal yesterday and came to correct the plot section, as I watched Last Jedi and came to edit the plot. The current Colossal's plot has some mistakes. Oscar is not jealous of Joel, by example, but get jealous with Tim, later on. I added details about the powerdynamic, links to psychology articles, why Gloria and Oscar are linked to the robot, monster and Seoul. Reverting the whole doesn't makes sense. Yug (talk) 01:58, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yug - Thanks for the response. I was able to read that conversation on your talk page earlier. Indeed, the user definitely felt that the original revision of the article had issues and that his/her changes were correct. However, I don't see any policy violations with the article content as it is now, nor do I see any policy violations with the content the IP was repeatedly modifying and changing. I have to be fair to everyone involved; once I fully protect an article for a content-related dispute, I don't edit or change it's current revision unless there's an edit request filed that everyone involved agrees with, or if it violates any important policies (such as containing copyright violations or BLP violations). It keeps my actions fair and justified, and it makes sure that I help handle this issue in a completely neutral and impartial manner. If there's content that needs to be changed, you have to request it. It's so we handle things properly and make sure that any action that follows is the right thing to do. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Good luck - I hope that you two discuss and resolve everything :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:03, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ok for me. It could be good to notice the said IP that the protection is mechanic and procedure is ongoing. So he doesn't get encouraged to unfairly play with the "undo" button. Showing him that Wikipedia has "due process" may also display the quality of the community. Yug (talk) 02:09, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not a bad idea at all. If you're discussing this issue with the user, it could be something you mention. If the edit warring continues after the block expires (by anyone, in general) - then perhaps blocking the offenders rather than protecting the page would help resolve it. I hope it doesn't come down to that ... I don't like playing the "bad guy"... but if that becomes the logical next step in stopping the disruption, it's what I'll have to do. Again, you're definitely correct with that statement, and it's something this user should definitely be informed about. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:15, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I edited in Prince of Tennis I made a coomet that he had broke his arm This is true As I have the book with me

I edited in Prince of Tennis I made a coomet that he had broke his arm This is true As I have the book with me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulthekid (talk • contribs) 01:39, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Paulthekid - You need to review and understand Wikipedia's guidelines on locating and providing sources that are reliable, as well as Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living people. Please do this before editing any more articles, and let me know if you have questions about either page. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:12, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seabiscuit

That dudes screwed with the Seabiscuit page again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:6B1:94C0:8540:DB68:641:89B1 (talk) 04:10, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the changes were reverted and the user was warned. If it continues, report them to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism and we'll take care of it. If you have any questions or need help with anything else, let me know and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:43, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No subject

Hi What is the link to wiki sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.203.60.209 (talk) 05:38, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia Sandbox is located here. Alternatively, you can enter "Wikipedia:Sandbox" into the search to be taken there directly. If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to let me know. Cheers -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:40, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.4.109.91 (talk) 06:26, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hm?

Not sure what happened here. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 07:11, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed this because I think it was a mistake. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 07:13, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Quixotic Potato - Yep, it... definitely wasn't intentional. Thanks for catching this and for letting me know. I've reached out and apologized and left a dummy edit. Not sure what happened... I appreciate it. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:17, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Shit happens. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 07:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No... thank you, sir! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:19, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Zookeeper's Wife (film)

Hi Oshwah. Thanks for the quick edit. Minutes after you were on the page the same idiot vandalised again (it's always the same jokes), which I also reverted. Hope you will keep your eye on the page, as I do, there is a lot of vandalism there. Cheers! Hassuchsmallhands (talk) 07:16, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hassuchsmallhands, and thanks for the message. I appreciate the help very much! Please let me know if any more problems continue and I'll be happy to take another look. Cheers -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:14, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You have deleted some information and I don't understand why

I have been editing a page with my name that someone else created. The existing page was full of inaccuracies and misinterpreted my work. The reverted version loses some of the information I had gathered (and don't have on paper), and I don't understand what your exception to my work is. Wind4thesails (talk) 07:16, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wind4thesails - It looks like the program I used reverted all of your changes, instead of the one I was concerned about. Furthermore, I figured out what you were trying to do, and I definitely miss-flagged your edit as disruptive. I've restored all of your changes; I apologize for the confusion and for the incorrect interpretation on my part. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:23, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RaZorWrAiTh article

What exactly is wrong with my biography article?In what way am I using this as anything other than a biography? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaZoRWrAiTh (talk • contribs) 07:37, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RaZoRWrAiTh - Wikipedia isn't about making a user page and writing pages about yourself - Wikipedia is about editing articles and content that you have no conflict of interest with, and to help improve and expand the project. See this policy regarding user pages and what they are and are not supposed to be used for. If you have any questions about it, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for leaving me a message with your questions and concerns :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:46, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Publish pages

hi dear

i want publish Mehdi nazeri Article , he is my favoriets photographer and i want make english pages. please publish that , you can see Mehdi wikipedia persian page

http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/مهدی_ناظری

and google result search .

You Can search 'Mehdi Nazeri Photography'

and his website

www.mnazeri.ir

Thanks for comments — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beach Girl (talk • contribs) 07:41, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Beach Girl, and thanks for leaving me a message with your request. This looks like an article that needs content translation from another Wikipedia project. I'm not familiar with using the tool, so I'll leave it to someone else who does in order to do this. I'm still concerned with your edit here, which removed content from this draft article without an explanation. What were you trying to do here? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:51, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Michael J. Saylor

Sorry to bother you again, but you edited another article on my watchlist here. The IP used editsummaries, but you reverted with the edit summary: "unexplained content removal". (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 09:01, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Quixotic Potato - I was just finished resolving it when you messaged me - fixed ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:03, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again. (((c))) (talk) 09:05, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Quixotic Potato - You bet. You know where to find me if you need anything else. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:06, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ctrl - X vs Ctrl - C. Or perhaps Ctrl - C and then C. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 09:08, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Quixotic Potato - Dammit... you caught me. lol. I use a MacBook Pro and I'm remoted into my Windows PC via RDP, and I have Linux Mint on VNC. My fingers are constantly going back-and-forth between using Control to do hotkeys in Windows (which is mapped to my control key on my Mac), and my Command hotkeys on my Mac OS (and I switch between the two every few minutes). So... that's an example of me using the wrong hotkey and thinking I'm using the other OS... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:14, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You are making it way too difficult and confusing for yourself. The obvious solution is to map the Command key to the spacebar, and then to simply type "space" in between words when using MacOS. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 09:21, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
MjolnirPants - That doesn't sound complicated at all :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:58, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Revert

Hi Oshwah, can you explain your revert of mine here? 82.39.49.182 (talk) 13:15, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I didn't recognize what you were doing with the template at the time - I perhaps thought you may have been testing it. If this is not the case, then please accept my sincere apologies for the confusion. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:17, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's no problem, the template is a subset of a standard ship formatting and linking template - my edit fixed a link to a WP:SETINDEX page to the specific article on the ship referred to - the USS North Carolina (SSN-777). I'd politely request a self revert both on the Anchors Aweigh article, and the templated message on my talkpage. Thanks! 82.39.49.182 (talk) 13:20, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like you've already taken care of this, so I'll leave things well enough alone now. Thanks for taking the time to explain the template's usage; I very much appreciate it :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:52, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
My pleasure, happy editing! 82.39.49.182 (talk) 14:01, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Francoise Gilot

Let me know the ref you mean and I'll cite it I thought I did add links...but I'm new so could have done it wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DRCSNOBLE (talk • contribs) 13:30, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DRCSNOBLE - Your edit here adds content stating where she currently lives, that she still paints to this day, and other content about this person - yet you didn't provide a reference to a reliable source with this content. This is why I reverted the edit and inquired about it with you. You may want to review Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living people, as it will explain this concern in-depth and what you need to provide with these changes. We scrutinize articles that are biographies of living people to a much higher standard and much more closely and seriously than other articles, so it's important that you review this policy before you add more content to these kinds of articles. If you have questions about this policy or anything stated on the policy page, please let me know and I'll be happy to assist you. Thanks for leaving me a message here. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:07, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Another one for Oshwah

For your reverts on User talk:zzuuzz, Florante at Laura, Ybarro and Brilyante. Zzuuzz would not be happy when they find out the lorem ipsum phrase has been found on the talk page. Thanks. Iggy (talk) 16:59, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, thanks for the beer Iggy the Swan! Much appreciated :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:53, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert on Anthony Quinn filmography

Hi Oshwah,

That IP was adding content about Donald Trump to a completely unrelated article. See here. Thanks for your understanding. 161.200.188.222 (talk) 18:38, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Weird... thanks for leaving me a message about this. I wonder what this user is up to? ... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:47, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Atrial flutter

Hi Oshwah, can you clarify why you reverted those edits on atrial flutter? An elaboration of specific types of heart disease being described that would make a person with atrial flutter more likely to be symptomatic is important. 137.53.89.21 (talk) 19:41, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, it's because I saw the addition of the word "cavotricuspid" to a sentence, which read to me like someone trying to miss-spell a word or cause disruption. I then realized that this was a body part. Then I realized that I was stupid. I apologize for the removal; I've restored your changes and I hope you have a great day. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:43, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Marley

Just want to point out, I explained my edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.20.114 (talk • contribs) 19:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please help the University of Paris article

Hello there,

I have seen that you are aware that there is an user that is constantly making changes in the University of Paris article. He is erasing well-referenced pieces of the article that use several official sources, of all the universities concerned with the subject as well as the official page of the Academy of Paris, to defend his own agenda. He recently undid your revision of it. He is also erasing parts of the article that explicitly use references that seem to be against his POV. I beg you to have a closer look at this page and make it neutral as it should be.

Thank you, --Canyouhearmemajortom? (talk) 20:15, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Canyouhearmemajortom? - I reverted an edit on this article believing that JeanBirkin was removing content without a valid explanation when, in fact, the user did. He added this content, and then removed it to put it in a different place. I reverted myself after realizing what had actually occurred, and I have no other direct involvement with the article itself. If you look at the combined edits made by the user here, he did add references to the content. Whether or not they're reliable is another discussion; I'd need to look. This is what I believe started a chain of reverting and restoring by multiple users and over the last few days, which resulted in the article being fully protected as it is now. You (and all of the other editors involved here) need to straighten this all out on the article's talk page, agree on a revision to save, and then let the protecting administrator know so he can remove it and you can save the agreed upon revision. This is outlined in Wikipedia's guide on proper dispute resolution practices and it's what you need to do in order to ultimately resolve this. If you have any questions about this, or if you need assistance with anything else, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you out. I wish you well, that the issue is sorted out peacefully, and I thank you for the message here :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:39, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help in this matter. As you might have noticed, I am not an experienced user. That's why I have looked for help and guidance. I and other users have tried to expose our view on the matter, but the user who is reverting the article (is it possible that he is the same person?) has not answered to our arguments with clarity, choose instead to cherry pick on some parts of the discussion. The article that he is using to base his point is already very biased and, by saying that the fusion of two of the universities that constitute the university of Paris would be the rebirth of the same, overlooks the fact that there are other 11 universities that are part of the university of Paris even exist and/or inherent several faculties of these universities. In order to defend his agenda, he erased the official references from 6 different universities official webpages plus the one from the Academy of Paris. I have tried to argue with him, but he does seem willing to solve the problem, instead choosing to make false statements such as I and other users making a confusion between "the building of la Sorbonne and the university" (which is not the case). As I can see, he has an advantage on the matter as the official sources are in French. Could you please have a deeper look in the matter and help us to achieve a consensus here. Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Canyouhearmemajortom? (talk • contribs) 23:05, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again, Canyouhearmemajortom?, and no worries! We were all new to Wikipedia at one point. Making mistakes, and not understanding or being aware of every single policy and guideline on Wikipedia is completely normal and understandable; we don't expect or demand perfection, nor do we demand that you learn all the rules and norms right now. Just make sure to take feedback that other editors leave you as them trying to help you. Some editors are better at assisting new people than others; it's how the world turns...
First, let me stop you at "I and other users have tried to expose our view on the matter" - are you referring to your view on the article subject in reflection to the content? Or are you referring to your thoughts on the issue at-hand? You want to make sure that every edit you make on any article is written in a neutral point of view. This is required, and content that reflects an editor's viewpoint should be fixed so that it no longer does so. If you're referring to your view on the dispute, make sure that you cite relevant Wikipedia policies or guidelines with your statements - this is probably the best argument you can make in a dispute if the relevant policy pages you're referring to agree with your argument. If the other users are not responding on the article's talk page, leave them a message on their user or IP talk page and let them know about the discussion. If they still don't respond but continue to revert the article, do not repeatedly change it back. Reverting an article in a back-and-fourth manner like that with other editors is problematic, as it can be considered edit warring (which is not allowed) and can result in your account being temporarily blocked from editing. Typically, you'll be warned first, then blocked if you continue doing it despite the warning, but you definitely do not want to get into that habit. If it starts to go back-and-fourth like that, stop and ask for someone to step in. Take a look at Wikipedia's three-revert rule for a general guideline on when back-and-fourth reverting will almost always be considered edit warring.
Responding to your statement, "In order to defend his agenda, he erased the official references from 6 different universities official webpages plus the one from the Academy of Paris." - are you saying that this person has control of the University's actual official websites or web pages outside of Wikipedia and has modified it to remove information that you're using as a reference here? If this is true, there's nothing I can do about that. Someone updating a reference located outside of Wikipedia to remove information or change it is seen as just that... someone updating a reference. If the information you're arguing isn't stated on the references you were using to support the argument, you can't use the argument in the article. That's the policy when it comes down to the bread and butter of it all. Just look for a different reference that's reliable if you need to.
I'm not sure how I could help in regards to the dispute if the matter is over information that is either true or false, or referenced on the official website (or elsewhere) or not. You need to find a reliable source that supports the information you believe to be correct, discuss the dispute, and update the article only when this is found. If the information isn't on a reliable source (or if it's now removed), then we can't use that reference to argue that the content is correct. Please let me know if you have any more questions. I'll be happy to answer them. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:13, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Thank you again for your answer. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. He is erasing the text on the article of Wikipedia. This text is supported by the webpages of the universities and still there to be seen and checked by whoever goes there to check them (and can understand French). In other words, he is erasing the links to the pages because they all go against his version of the facts that, according to him, the University of Paris is being reestablished. In stating that, he is disregarding all the other 11 universities that have been created in 1970 from the split of the original university of Paris and still carry its name. The history of the split of the university of Paris is well known in the French speaking world. The other user is trying to rewrite history 50 years later among the Anglophone community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Canyouhearmemajortom? (talk • contribs) 00:55, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ps: the references are in the talk page and were in the version of the text that was erased. Could you have a look on them and come with your opinion on the matter. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Canyouhearmemajortom? (talk • contribs) 00:59, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ~Oshwah~, you can see that the discussion has been going on here too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sorbonne_University . Basically, Canyouhearmemajortom? is arguing that Sorbonne University is not the re-establishment University of Paris, despite very clear sources[1][2]

His misktake comes from the fact : 1. he thinks there are "official sources" (webpage of the universities) and them only count 2. he does not know that Wikipedia is not a place for original research, so he draws his own conclusions based on these sources (even these "official sources" are not well understood by him: the other universities are inheritors because they were built by Sorbonne University professors, they are not the faculties themselves). If you could explain that to him, because RaphaelQS, JeanBirkin and me have not succeeded yet.

--SummertimeinCrocodilopolis (talk) 07:51, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The official sources clearly state that these universities inherited both the faculties and the buildings of the old University of Paris. Anyone can go there and check (please, do) [3][4][5] [6]. . I am trying to reach consensus in the University of Paris webpage. Please do not revert the references in the article nor the text backed up by these references. Let's try to be reasonable and constructive here. Thank you. --Canyouhearmemajortom? (talk) 12:57, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to Blocking tools consultation

Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Anti-Harassment Tools team is inviting all Wikimedians to discuss new blocking tools and improvements to existing blocking tools in December 2017 for development work in early 2018.

We are specifically contacting you for your ideas because you are one of the top users of the blocking tool on en Wikipedia. We think that your comments will help us make better improvements. You can post to the discussion in the language that you are most comfortable expressing your ideas.


Other ways that you can help

  • Spread the word that the consultation is happening; this is an important discussion for making decisions about improving the blocking tools.
  • If you know of current or previous discussions about blocking tools that happened on your wiki, share the links.

If you have questions you can contact me on wiki or send an email to the Anti-Harassment Tools team.

For the Anti-Harassment Tools team, SPoore (WMF), Community Advocate, Community health initiative (talk) 21:17, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies - lol is that what this means? I haven't looked up my counts in at least... it's been a long time lol. How do I feel? Same as always I guess... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:38, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"We are specifically contacting you for your ideas because you are one of the top users of the blocking tool on en Wikipedia", AKA - "Hey, we know you're here like 24/7... so you got time.... right? Course you do..." lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:40, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the first idea that you can offer to this blocking tools consultation is that you're not supposed to call them tools. --NeilN talk to me 22:46, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
SPoore (WMF) - Thank you for the message, the information, and the invitation! I left a discussion on the page's talk page with a suggestion that I feel would be extremely helpful to administrators and the blocking page. I hope that it's reviewed and considered, as this is an area that's both unclear, lacking, and not a simple task to execute properly and completely if not experienced with doing so (plus, it takes a long time to do manually - at least in my opinion it does). Thanks again! Much appreciated! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:43, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Have you seen the re edit on the Wilfred Ndidi page. Thanks for the guidance by the way

Aghachi7 (talk) 21:44, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aghachi7 - I apologize for the delay getting back to you. I was taking a break from Wikipedia for the holidays and I'm just now getting caught up with my messages. I responded to your first message here (see above); if you have any more questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again for the messages, and I apologize for the delay responding to you. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:22, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

IP 82....

Hi, the person behind this ip, who reverted the Church of St Edward the Confessor, Romford edit, is the same locates to the same part of England as the other 82... ips who have reverted me on a whole host of other articles. Coincidence, not. CassiantoTalk 22:54, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cassianto - Good to see you again. Oh, most definitely not :-P. Cool I'll take a look. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:56, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You too. Thanks, I expect there's some fancy bit of software which enables someone to search how many tines I've had the misfortune to be reverted by an 82 ip. I suspect it's a banned or blocked user, somewhere, or someone who is logging out in order to bait me. But since I struggle with such technology, I thought I'd leave it to someone who's in the know with such things. CassiantoTalk 23:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Another day, another batch of reverts by the same user using different ip addresses: here, here and here. CassiantoTalk 19:23, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Cassianto - thanks for the follow-up and for the diffs. I ran a WHOIS for those IPs, and they come back as being from various Telefonica networks in the UK. Piecing together the information from the WHOIS information, I see that this ISP splits their IP ranges between their different hubs and what is reflected on the WHOIS. NinjaRobotPirate has correctly blocked the range (which is 82.132.192.0/18), so I think this IP range is taken care of. The 82.24.168.158 IP hasn't edited for quite some time, so I'll leave this one be for now. Let me know if you need anything else and I'll be happy to take a look. Hope you had a good holiday. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:41, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Oshwah, you've been most helpful. Have a nice New Year. CassiantoTalk 23:31, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Cassianto - You bet; always happy to help. If you need anything else, you know where to find me. Cheers -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:14, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Revdel potentially needed

Howdy! Could you please take a look at [REDACTED - Oshwah] and make it (and its author) go away to the appropriate extent? Thanks! Julietdeltalima (talk) 23:34, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Julietdeltalima - Can do. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:39, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And now you might want to get rid of the now-blocked user's subsequent edit on that article as well, alas. Happy December, by the way! - Julietdeltalima (talk) 01:05, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Julietdeltalima - Sorry for the delay following up with you here. I was taking a break for the holiday, and I'm just now catching up with all of my messages and emails here. It looks like ClueBot sucked up the user's other edit, so we should be all set. If you need anything else, you know where to find me ;-). Cheers -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:16, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No subject

Hi Oshwah, today you left me this message that I deleted something on the Kawas Power Plant. This was a mistake, I did not realize I did anythink to the page. Thanks for reading.WiiMiner00 (talk) 00:05, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WiiMiner00 - No worries; thanks for the message. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:20, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gertrud (1964 film)

Hi Oshwah, I changed the release date of the film and I'm pretty sure about it Regards, Alfred — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfredhuizinga (talk • contribs) 00:19, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Alfredhuizinga - Did you include a reference to a reliable source with your changes? It's possible that the date is correct, but not set at your particular time zone... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:19, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Minecraft Story Mode Season 2 Episode 5

Hi,

I am very sure that my synopsis of the episode is quite accurate, why is it being taken down? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.248.175.98 (talk) 00:30, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I immediately undid my revision and restored the content you changed - sorry about the confusion t here. We've had vandalism to these kinds of articles lately, and I thought you might have been another one. Obviously this is not the case ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:34, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A goat for you!

For your admining!

EvergreenFir (talk) 00:51, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

EvergreenFir - Thanks for the goat! lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:49, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Batman Emmy Wins

Hi, sorry, how was it vandalism when I added press releases by the organization that actually gives out Daytime Emmy awards? Thanks.70.112.229.80 (talk) 00:54, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ohhh, they were different links.... I thought they were all the same ones - I was going to ask you, "why add it to the page over five times?!!". Alas, I got my answer. Sorry for the trouble; I've fixed the article and restored your changes. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:01, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, thank you!70.112.229.80 (talk) 19:34, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Hauck Article

The edits I made to the page were to remove references to a fake prision, and other events in the persons life that have no citation or appearance of being true. Please put the changes I made back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.185.137.131 (talk) 03:11, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good call. That stuff you're moving absolutely needs to go - I've restored your changes, and thank you for messaging me and explaining :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:15, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect (Ed Sheeran song)

Hi Oshwah, you blocked an IP from editing Perfect (Ed Sheeran song) but they've basically said they will come back and do it again. Can you maybe protect the page? There's enough disruptive/unhelpful recent IP edits to justify protection I believe. Ss112 03:22, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ss112 - I apologize for the delay responding to your message here. I was taking a break for the holiday and I'm just now catching up with my emails and messages here. I see ongoing edits on the page history; is there still a content issue/dispute here? What does the user say when we try to message them and talk to them about it? Let me know - I'll be happy to help if it's still needed. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Edit to List of Food Wars! Shokugeki no Soma episodes

Hey Oshwah! The title for episode 11 that you changed is in German we need the English translation which is what I put in on the English page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.33.113.182 (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2017 (UTC) [reply]

Thanks for leaving me a message - I should have seen that you were translating the title to English. This was my mistake and I apologize for that. I restored the edit you made and I've left a response on your talk page; hopefully you receive it soon. Please let me know if you need anything else and I'll be happy to help you. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:57, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like someone disagrees with this edit, so I'm going to leave the page be for now. If you have any more questions, please let me know. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:59, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No subject

how do you add a pic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2EEF:DF0:443E:CC80:1B3C:108D (talk) 04:05, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You need to have a registered account on Wikipedia that's been confirmed or autoconfirmed before you can do this. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask and I'll be more than happy to answer them and help you. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:58, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss the rain

Can you tell User:Clubjustin to stop reverting my edit? I have a source that shows the name of the song was influenced by the bush song "Kiss The Rain"--75.66.124.118 (talk) 04:28, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, but you can. You need to discuss the issue on the article's talk page. Follow Wikipedia's dispute resolution protocol and resolve it properly. If you continue to edit and revert each other on the article, it can result in being blocked. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:30, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ok, I guess I don't care, but did you even check the link?

So you deleted an edit, and it wasn't a real edit, I probably should have just fixed the page myself, but why do I think that wouldn't fly either? So, "to insure neutrality," whatever that means, you leave the absurd link and the fake town of "Rack City?" There is no Rack City, in California or otherwise. It is the name of a hip-hop album. The link (I didn't link it) opens the Rack City album page. What's my beef with you? It isn't that you took out my dumb edit, it's that you only care enough to delete it, you can't use common sense and realize that the link doesn't make sense and that the town doesn't exist. Some editor. My edit was intended to lead someone who cares to fix it. The claim of a residence in Mexico also looks like a vandalism entry. Please forgive my snide tone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.29.59.220 (talk) 04:44, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that you're referring to this edit, which I reverted for having issues in regards to Wikipedia's policy on wording articles in a neutral point of view. This edit does not do this; it implies opinion and commentary, which is not the manner in which we add content to articles. What link are you referring to exactly? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:01, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Sorry

My apologies, I did not mean to do any vandalism. For I am new and meant no harm. Regarding the article John Andre in said article nothing is stated about his used alias at the time of his arrest.AndreTallmadge1780 (talk) 05:03, 19 December 2017 (UTC)AndreTallmade1780[reply]

About changes of LA Lakers' Page

Hi, Oshwah The content I removed only makes sense before today. The content is about Lakers will retire Kobe's two jersey numbers on 19 Dec, 2017. Just now, the ceremony has finished and his two numbers have been officially retired. Thus, the content is out of date and irrelevant to that section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ezrastan (talk • contribs) 05:08, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ezrastan! Thanks for leaving me a message here. Okay, I see what you mean now. Thanks for explaining this edit further with me. In the future, you'll want to leave edit summaries with your changes and explain them briefly. This will tell other editors what you're doing and why, and will eliminate future confusion (such as this). Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks again for the message. Best Regards -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:13, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Melon Music Awards

Hello sir/madam.

Please remove Global Artist from Main awards. I moved it because it is NOT a main award.

In Korea, main awards are given out yearly, while special awards can be given out 1 year and then next year not. So that is why I moved it to special awards, where it was from start. You can even check judging criteria, where it is written as a special award. Thank you

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melon_Music_Awards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.208.128.165 (talk) 05:13, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message with your explanation. This looks like a major removal - might I recommend that you start a talk page discussion and explain this removal first? This way, you can provide additional information and sources to support your assertions, and other editors will be able to read and respond to your concerns. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:15, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

You just banned an account Vunutu for using multiple accounts. How does one see which accounts are using more than one account? I mean which tool is used? I was unable to find anything in the Twinkle dropdown on the page of the user. Elektricity (talk) 05:16, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elektricity, and thanks for leaving me a message with your questions. I apologize for the delay responding to you; I was taking a break for the holiday and I'm just now catching up with my Wikipedia messages and emails. There are many ways to identify and assert that multiple accounts are being abused by the same person to disrupt Wikipedia. The typical behavior that most editors notice and suspect this are seeing more than one account editing the same article or discussion, pretending to be two different people, and having the same exact behaviors that both accounts share in common. Examples of such similar behaviors are things such as editing the exact same area of the article, using the exact same source, using the same words, punctuation, grammar, anything that's not a common practice that both accounts demonstrate (like if you saw someone who has a habit of adding a space before the use a comma, then seeing a "new account" do the same thing). Thins such as this. Spotting and identifying these accounts isn't a simple task, and making an accusation requires proof that's satisfactory and justifiable; never make an accusation based off of "suspicions" you cannot prove, or because more than one person just happens to disagree with you "so they must be the same person". You can check out Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations and Wikipedia:Sock puppetry for in-depth information regarding this policy. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask me them and I'll be more than happy to answer them and help you further :-). Best regards -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:30, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Jackson's public image section

The information that I added is not intended to defy Wikipedia's neutrality policy, since I did provide sources to prove that Michael did in fact regret his choice of words to describe his childhood discipline, as the source I provided verified it and according to J. Randy Taraborelli, he bought Joseph a car.

It is well-documented that Michael was acquitted of child molestation while Randy was jailed for assaulting his wife and daughter, but released, but if there was any source that contained potentially libellous claims or statements, I would never add it to Wikipedia, let alone as a source, so perhaps you sent me this BLP message by mistake, because as I said earlier, the source provided did confirm what I had added.

61.69.217.3 (talk) 05:46, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here. Regarding your edit to Joe Jackson (manager): The content you added included "Joseph was clearly hurt and even went on TV to say he was unaware of Michael regurgitating while Michael himself later regretted his choice of words to describe Joseph's discipline, so he bought him a new automobile." You state that he was "clearly hurt"; this seems like a matter of opinion to me than content that's impartial and not a user observation or viewpoint. This was the concern I had; it had nothing to do with the other content (and the ABC news source) you added in your previous edit. It looks like I reverted both changes, and I apologize for that. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. I apologize for the delay responding to you; I was taking a break for the holiday and I'm just now catching up with my Wikipedia messages and emails. Thanks again for the message -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:36, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vinayak Damodar Savarkar - Gauri a11 (talk) 06:05, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello ,

I made some edits to the "religious views" section of Savarkar's webpage but it was rejected due to neutrality issues as I understand it. Please let me know what I need to do or what type of reference material I need to provide to incorporate this change. Gauri a11 (talk) 06:05, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gauri a11, and thanks for leaving me a message here. I felt that your edit here to Vinayak Damodar Savarkar had issues with neutral point of view because you added this sentence: "His respect for scientific and logical thinking, his in-depth knowledge of Hindu scriptures and philosophy, and his practice of karma-yoga are indicators of his inherent spirituality rooted in Hindu Dharma." I believe that this adds commentary and speaks positively to the subject by you, which is why I reverted your edit. The link in my response here will take you to the policy page, and give you information on how to modify the content to eliminate this concern. I highly recommend that you read through it. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to help you. Thanks again for the message, and I apologize for the delay responding to your message here. I was taking a break for the holiday and I'm just now catching up with my emails and messages here. Best regards -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:51, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Darrington, Washington

Hello Oshwah,

I am not great at navigating through Wikipedia's edit system. I don't even know how to use the little curvy signs for signing my name but I will try. The source I used was the website that I put in the explanation of edit line. I haven't learned how to use the reference icon either. So I will simply not edit the article until I learn how. Thank you for pointing out my error. Gigfisher (talk) 06:52, 19 December 2017 (UTC)GigfisherGigfisher (talk) 06:52, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gigfisher! Welcome to Wikipedia! It looks like you signed your message just fine :-). The page you're looking for is this one - it will show you how to reference sources in-line with the content you're adding or changing, and will give you all of the information you need. If you still need help after reading this page, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be more than happy to help you. Thanks for the message, and I wish you well. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:55, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

‎189.164.83.65

Mind going a little easy on this IP? He's trying to update the article (I also suspect English is not his first language). Since it's a radio station, he's also trying to eliminate the old logo (and say the ownership of the station has changed when a concession transfer has not hit the IFT yet). But the info he has is generally correct. Raymie (t • c) 08:08, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Raymie, and thanks for your message here. Was this user able to make the changes to the article? Does this user need help? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:56, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think everything is fine now. He made the changes and I polished it up. Part of the problem is that I've been waiting more than five months for the IFT to post some specific documents. Raymie (t • c) 01:41, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Admiring

YOUR WORK
I just love your work (talk) 12:14, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Abdullah Naveed - I appreciate the trophy and for your kind words. Thank you very much :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:57, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey!

Heyyyyy!!!!!!

What is this, phien x lao? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:E68:69D3:7F00:717E:1694:83A2:AAFA (talk) 12:22, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Datsun 120Y

Your Peugeot no good, Datsun is a better car.

Who said? Datsun is a rubbish car. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:E68:69D3:D500:19F8:44B2:CEB4:E322 (talk) 13:41, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hindenburg disaster

At Hindenburg disaster it looks to me like you reverted way too much. Only the most recent edit before yours, by 116.48.27.131 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), was vandalism. Kendall-K1 (talk) 13:55, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kendall-K1 - I don't see much of a major difference. Is there something I'm missing? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:59, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Below in the diff more changes are there. You also reverted GreenC bot's edits and some other edits. Galobtter (pingó mió) 14:02, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure I would say it's a major difference, but every bit helps. "Despite this, the skin alone to burn too slowly" doesn't make sense. It's certainly possible to figure out what's meant, but it makes the reader stop and try to figure out the intended meaning. "while Chu's photographs were shown New York Daily News" again makes no sense, and is even harder to read. Why would you show a newspaper to a bunch of inanimate photos? And "spectator's" is just wrong, as the area accommodates more than one person.
I don't mean to complain, and I certainly appreciate your efforts to fight vandalism. The only reason I bring this up at all is to explain my own action in reverting you, so that you won't think I'm a vandal. Kendall-K1 (talk) 14:07, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Kendall-K1 - Or.... or..... you could..... be trying to explain this in order to trick me, because you actually ARE THE VANDAL!!!! I knew it! It was you the entire time!!! :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:11, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
My thousands of edits and years on WP have all been a clever setup leading to this single moment in time. Kendall-K1 (talk) 14:16, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's okay... if it makes you feel any better, I've been called a "bot" numerous times by new accounts that I revert vandalism they made... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:19, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wait wait wait. How do you I know you really aren't a bot! Galobtter (pingó mió) 14:21, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Pinky swears have become the sure way to proove one's humanity. I don't think bots have that capability... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:24, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Kendall-K1 - Just following up to make sure that your concerns were resolved. Just let me know when it's convenient for you to do so; there's no rush :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:11, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted the over-revert part of your revert, and you haven't reverted me back, so I think we're all set. Kendall-K1 (talk) 22:30, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Request.

Please , Take/Write his name as Shri Rajiv Dixit Ji.I live in Atrauli Tehsil.Where do you live. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BK knowing (talk • contribs) 14:44, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Take his name with respect whoever you are.Your name only suggest you are a foreigner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BK knowing (talk • contribs) 14:53, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

West Wratting wiki page.

Hi,

I made a change to this page as it is inaccurate when it says that West Wratting is the highest village in Cambridgeshire. There was a discussion in the Cambridge News, where a contributor stated that to resolve the issue of which village is the highest, he asked Ordnance Survey to comment. They said that it was Great Chishill. Hence my amendment.

I did want to edit the top headline in this page but I can't see how to do that.

Hope you are happy with this explanation and that you will edit the initial text to reflect the facts.

Thank you,

Peter Milner — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.155.38.176 (talk) 14:58, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! And thanks for leaving me a message here. When you refer to "a discussion in the Cambridge News", I assume you have a link to this discussion? Was it a news release? Or just a discussion between users in comments? This information is important when it comes to determining whether or not your source is reliable or not. Thanks -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:14, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

READ

Please, use your logic, review sources, and update the information, Global Artist is considered a great prize by Melon music Award since 2017, modify your criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariela Y (talk • contribs) 15:04, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mariela Y - I think we might be confused here... The edit I reverted here was the removal of content and without an explanation in the edit summary, and this second reversion here... well that was my mistake. He explained that he was moving the section and I reverted that... Is there another revision that you're concerned about? Was this IP you, or another user? I'm just asking in order to establish a context here and get more information so that I can respond and address your concerns... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:19, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed a spelling error which got reverted

Hi, I'm a native Dutch speaker and this edit I made just got reverted, even though I had only corrected the spelling of the word. In Dutch, compound words are normally written without spaces and it is considered incorrect when the space is included. It wouldn't make sense to include the space (as if it were following English rules for compound words) since the word isn't in English—this is probably exactly why there's an English translation right beside it. 92.109.227.50 (talk) 15:51, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You're all set. I restored your changes. Please let me know if you need anything else. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:57, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Elisa Jordana age

I'm just curious why so many people are trying to hide her true age. There is no better source than the actual person stating their age. What's up with this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdl719 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sdl719, and thanks for leaving me this message. I apologize for the delay responding; I was on break during the Christmas holiday, so I'm catching up with all of my messages now. Your edit here doesn't seem to be supported by a reliable source, which is strictly required and enforced with articles that are biographies of living people. Do you have a better source? I don't think that a YouTube video link will work here... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:50, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Fitzsimmons

I was revising Bob Fitzsimmons' record to reflect the reality of his wins, losses, draws, and no contests. When I checked to see whether the page was formatted correctly, I realized it look odd, so I deleted the page in an effort to have it restored so I could see how it was formatted before. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Sincerely, Anon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:6030:4110:A936:B401:F62:79F3 (talk) 16:10, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No apologies needed; thanks for messaging me and for explaining. If you need help with fixing the content you believe is incorrect, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you. Cheers -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:51, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect info on my high schools Wikipedia page

The name of the page is "Kennedale High School"

This year our high school has completely new Administrators, meaning principals and vice principals. There is now outdated information on the Wikipedia page and Editing is not allowed on the page. I would like to request access or possible give you the correct information to update the page.

Thank you. cagle for life (talk) 16:20, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Caglesnumberonefan - So you're saying that your edit here was constructive and simply updating information that was old? ... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:53, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kennedale High School Article

I would like access to this article for a am a student of this schoolAshesyuan (talk) 16:30, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ashesyuan - Unfortunately, this article has been semi-protected due to vandalism. However, if you make an edit request on the article's talk page, someone will take a look and update the article for you. Make sure to include sources and references to verify the authenticity of what you're requesting be changed. If you need help, let me know and I'll be happy to do so. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:56, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ANI follow-up

Hello Oshwah.

You recently gave a quick 24-hour preemptive block to @Rìgh: for personal attacks and other disruption at Stephan Molyneux talk page. The user came right back to pick up where he left off after the block expired. Things went quiet after the block, but now I'm concerned this is going to lead to pile-on of further attacks and disruption. FYI @Malinaccier: closed the ANI thread and I didn't know whether it was OK to post this concern there or to re-open the matter at ANI. SPECIFICO talk 16:37, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like Seraphimblade has blocked Righ for another week. If he comes back and repeats the personal attacks I would support an indefinite block. Malinaccier (talk) 16:48, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Malinaccier - Thanks for responding here while I was away for the holidays. I appreciate it very much. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:19, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you

Holiday barnstar
You deserve a holiday barnstar, but this snowflake was as close as I could come. And best holiday wishes to you. Thank you for making Wikipedia a better place. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:50, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
7&6=thirteen - Thanks for the holiday barnstar! I hope your holiday went well! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:57, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted sugar maple categorization?

Hi!

You reverted my change listing sugar maple as a hardwood forest plant. I'm not sure why - it is a tree known to grow in North American temperate broadleaf forests. Why?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.230.192.138 (talk • contribs)

No, that wasn't why. Take another look at the changes you saved. You'll see it ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:18, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

HAH. Stupid chrome plugins, automatically changing "cloud" to "butt" and "millenials" to "snake people". Thanks!

No problem. I figured that's what it was ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:21, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Humble Reqeust

hi bro i have made an link just because for the sacks of peoples. Yeah i know your article is also very nice but we have done also a very great and hard job on it. thats why want to people know about the corel drwan actually what is it. we have gathered content in a short article. Thats why making link if you approve our request we will very thank full to your. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zunairrrr (talk • contribs) 17:31, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Zunairrrr - I'm not sure what you're requesting or asking for; could you elaborate further for me? To explain: your edits here and here looked to be attempting to add a link to your (or a) site for promotional reasons, not informational or verifiability reasons. Remember that Wikipedia is not a means of promotion. This is why I reverted these changes. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No subject

Information listed there is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.14.52.206 (talk) 17:51, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How is this content incorrect exactly? Can you please explain so I can understand? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:55, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kilt and Clover Edits

To Whom it May Concern

Hello,

I just added some text to the Kilt and Clover restaurant page concerning their display of pro-Trump campaign materials (i.e. propaganda). The Trump-Pence flag is on display, including custom "Make Port Dalhousie Great Again" hats on display in multiple cases. The restaurant, while of course known for its other events listed on the page, has become identifiable locally given its display of said propaganda.

My edit was removed for not being 'constructive', while it is objectively true that the restaurant displayed this propaganda. I make no normative statements about the quality or desirability of displaying this particular type of political material, I was just stating a fact. I would be happy to re-word it or include it in a separate section if that would be desirable.

There's a link to the article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilt_and_Clover

Thanks,

Wikipedia User — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.163.250 (talk) 19:28, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits here and here were unreferenced and definitely used words to imply a viewpoint. This is why I reverted them. If you have any questions, let me know. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:21, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Marion Bartoli

I provided a referenced source but you still removed my edit. What gives? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.161.139.190 (talk) 19:40, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter is not a reliable source, which are the types of references that are required when editing and adding content in relation to biographies of living people. Please let me know if you have any more questions. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:42, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fox Talbot change

Your deletion of my addition is quite unfair. Everyone acknowledges that the negative/positive system that Talbot pioneered is the only one that succeeded! The daguerrotype was a dead end because copies could not be made from a unique image. Please revert! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.167.21.73 (talk) 19:53, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. You really should read and understand this this policy, because your changes introduce some potential issues there. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:55, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

notice

ok seems fair, but who is this exactly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NICK(really reliable source) (talk • contribs) 20:40, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) He is god. !dave 20:53, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Noticed something

I think all the accounts that have usernames that insult Ajit Pai, such as the one you just blocked, may all be the same person. I'll open up an sockpuppet investigation for them if I see an account with a username like that again. Best, Hastiness (talk) 20:50, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Hastiness: please don't. Report to WP:UAA or WP:AIV instead. Sro23 (talk) 20:58, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed with Sro23 - no CheckUser is going to run any of that information... I know that I wouldn't. There's a very reasonable level of coincidence that many people will try and create attack / vulgar accounts with his name -- right now, he's quite hated on the internet so this pattern is quite expected, actually... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:03, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Still, it's likely that most of them are the same person. Hastiness (talk) 21:09, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Heather North

Per IMDb and Hollywood Reporter, she was born Dec. 13, 1945 and died at the age of 71, per the Hollywood Reporter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.52.83.178 (talk) 21:11, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your change here didn't reference these sources - can you provide them? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:34, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Greg page

can you Please Protect the Page? and find out were the IP's are coming from? Jena (talk) 22:02, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jena Fi -  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:07, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Edit of Vinayak Damodar Savarkar page

I am new to Wiki. I tried to make an edit to this Savarkar religious views section but it was rejected due to neutrality issues. I would like to know what I need to do to incorporate this edit. I can provide references from books and articles (I don't know how to link them yet) and change the language as needed. ga11 (talk) 22:24, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gauri a11 - I believe I responded to your message above. I apologize for the delay getting back to you. I was on break for the holiday. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you further. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:53, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Iraq conflict (2003–present)

Hello, I saw that recently you changed the protection level of Iraqi Civil War (2014–present) due to the ongoing vandalism. The article itself is in the midst of a dispute over the end date of the war and it is prohibited to make changes to that date until a consensus is reached on the talk page over the issue. Although at the moment it would seem an overwhelming consensus is that the war is still ongoing. I would like to point out that a closely-linked problem has arisen at another closely-linked article. As you know, the article you protected is about the current phase of the overall Iraq conflict (2003–present). Any discussion at the civil war article closely affects the overall article as well. A newly created account, which would seem to be mostly focused on changing the end date of the conflict (a single-purpose account?), is constantly inserting an unsourced end date for the overall Iraq conflict. The user has been constantly reverted by me and I have asked him three times (both in edit summaries and on his talk page) to join in on the discussion at the talk page for the current phase of the conflict and I pointed out to him that at the moment overwhelming consensus is that the phase and thus the general conflict are still ongoing. The user has ignored me, made no form of communication, and continued to make the unsourced edits. He has also constantly inserted the unsourced end date to the also closely-linked American-led intervention in Iraq (2014–present) and Operation Inherent Resolve. I feel a measure of protection (possibly semi) is required for the Iraq conflict (2003–present) article, as well as maybe but not necessarily the other two ones. Thanks in advance! EkoGraf (talk) 22:43, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi EkoGraf! I apologize for the delay getting back to you about this message here. I was on break for the holiday and I'm now just getting caught up with all of my messages and emails here. Who is this user exactly? Is it D7oom021? Or someone else I'm not seeing. Let me know when you can and I'll be happy to take a look. Thanks -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:02, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User RickyRolling

Hi Oshwah. I contacted Doug Weller about this, looked into writing up and ArbEnf request, balked, and thought it worth bringing up with you as the last admin to block him:

I was cleaning up some articles when I came across these edits by RickyRolling (talk · contribs). I didn't think much of them until I saw all the messages on his talk page including a discretionary sanctions notice.

Looking over every edit since the last block of June 18, all his edits appear to violate sanctions. Basically, he's been going around blanking information such as [8] [9]. I've cleaned up what others hadn't already. --Ronz (talk) 22:51, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ronz! I apologize for the delay getting back to you; I was away for the holiday and I'm getting caught up with my messages here. It looks like this account has only edited once in December (on the 10th) - which was quite awhile ago. Taking action at this time would be against policy. However, if you see that issues and disruption continue with this user, do let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. Hope you had a good holiday! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:06, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: December 2017

This edit was not a test. I was legitimately contributing to Times Square–42nd Street/Port Authority Bus Terminal (New York City Subway)#Terror plots by editing the link to Grand Central–42nd Street (New York City Subway) to go directly to Zazi's other attack. 96.242.238.234 (talk) 23:00, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting... okay, so long as the edits are following policy, I'm cool with it. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:02, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Is this really needed and/or proper? ... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:03, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of fashion events

Hi Oshwah, I had to correct the page List of fashion events according to relevant resources such as Forbes. There are no major 6 fashion weeks around the world. According to fashion experts, and media there are only 5 major fashion events. The information is supported by forbes. Someone who is connected to the other fashion weeks have tried to push their events by changing this info without reliable citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robschnell (talk • contribs) 23:22, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unreliable source?

Hi. Just curious about this edit, the effect of which was to remove "the Police Overseas Service Medal" from the purportedly cited content. I cannot relate your clearly careful edit summary "rv - not a reliable source per WP:BLP (HG) (3.3.3))". I got as far as BLP 3.3 but don't twig the other 3 or the meaning of HG. Personally, I would have used [failed verification], but I've a feeling I must have missed something here. There can be no question about ABC News being a reliable source, but that doesn't seem to be your point. Regards, Bjenks (talk) 02:15, 20 December 2017 (UTC)i[reply]

Hi Bjenks - Nope, there's no question that ABC News is reliable :-). I was looking at only one of the diffs this user made to the article (whichever one was next on the queue); I didn't make sure to look for other edits first so that I combine and view them all put together..... which is my problem here. Had I so, I would have understood the edit to be just one of a larger group of edits that were good, and obviously wouldn't have reverted it. It was one of those small changes he made... I'll need to find it. Either way, I should have seen that, and the changes he made shouldn't have reverted... I need to resolve that..... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:27, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Looking more closely, I found further problems and elected to address them. Bjenks (talk) 06:04, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Bjenks - You bet :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:07, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

James Spader

Hi! I've noticed that you put James Spader's Birthday as Feb 7 1966, but he was in this movie in 1978 where his character turns 17, so if his birthday was in 1966, he would have been 12 years old acting in that film. Also if you go on IMDb, it states that he was born in 1960. It also says on Wikipedia that he dropped out of high school to go pursue an acting career in New York, so if he was born in 1966, he would have dropped out of high school in 1984, and it says that he has been an active actor since 1978.

If you could change is back to 1960, that would be great

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:5:80D:0:0:0:A6 (talk) 02:18, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Risotto

My edit simply omitted the word "edible" from the phrase "edible mushrooms" in a sentence describing a cooked dish (while retaining the wikilink to the article "edible mushrooms". What was the reasoning behind undoing the edit? Tgoodwil (talk) 02:24, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh, same situation I described earlier... Tgoodwil, I apologize. I made some changes to my filtering rules on my RC Patrolling tool, and I'm starting to suspect that I've messed it up somewhere... I rolled back the revert I made. Thanks for letting me know about this.... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:36, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oshwah, I really admire your friendliness and enthusiasm, so please don't take this the wrong way, but you need to SLOW.DOWN. And possibly take a break from Huggle, since you seem to be having lots of problems with it lately for a while now. Storytime: when I first joined Wikipedia, I would forget to log in often. The only RC patroller I had problems with as an IP was you. To be fair, I wasn't using edit summaries or being very communicative, but I was also new and inexperienced. One day you mass reverted I think my most recent 50 contributions because you "thought it looked like vandalism", or something to that extent. When I finally confronted you about this, I got this half-hearted apology, and I had to manually undo your reverts of my edits. I know you meant well, but that incident kind of soured my experience here as an unregistered editor. Sro23 (talk) 02:52, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sro23 - Sigh... I agree with you. And thank you for voicing your concerns. I let myself experiment with filter rule changes in my Huggle config these past few days, and I wasn't doing my part in being careful afterwards and with analyzing how my queue would change as a result. And now I've made a lot of errors because I didn't go slow enough to make sure that my changes weren't going to start screwing with things.... which obviously brings the concerns with my speed into play as well. The conversations I had with others that I screwed up with today (including this one) have pushed me off of my comfortable and fluffy "Huggle chair" and I'm definitely awake and I am listening. I need to fix my custom options so that good hits are enqueued, but I also just need to put this feedback onto my radar regarding my speed. I just need to use Huggle with a few steps between myself and the screen, and take everything down a couple notches and chill....... I guess I've also let myself get wound up lately, which obviously doesn't help with things ;-). I'm sorry that I allowed this to happen. I just don't want to start worrying anyone or to get myself put onto the "keep eyes on him" Wikipedia no-fly list because, "Oh oh! Oshwah's going off the fritz now! I gotta keep my eye on his shit.... he's gonna keep screwing things up worse and worse and its gonna doom us!" I appreciate your feedback, and I will honor it. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:46, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for listening. :) I would be lying if I said I never catch myself going way too fast at times either. In my opinion, accuracy is more important than speed. Sro23 (talk) 04:02, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Although some messages just aren't reply-able here in any constructive sense (like the one I answered), there's some that are worth a reply, and don't get one; above is someone who has posted twice in order to get your attention about something you reverted in a religious views section of some BLP. In the nicest possible way, if you want CU/OS rights next year or in the future, start answering your talk page, and as Ritchie333 noted, it might be a violation of WP:ADMINACCT. I don't use Huggle anymore because it is too easy to make mistakes; it is like trying to deal with changes at arms length, so if you're with reverting on-wiki it makes things much more easier in this sense. I'd say go and turn on the new recent changes, and try to fiddle around with some of the filters it has. There's live updates, a highlighting system -- it is probably the least shittiest thing that the WMF has tried to dish out to us. You won't be able to catch every single edit anymore, but you'll be able to slow down and take things more carefully. Regards !dave 09:22, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
My name is not dave - Thanks for following up as well. I'm taking a break from Huggle for awhile - I think it's something I should do nonetheless. I try to keep caught up with my talk page messages as much as possible; I receive a lot of messages, so it's not always possible. Rest assured, I try to respond to all sincere messages as best I can. Sometimes I miss some, however. I see that you've responded to some messages below while I was on break for Christmas - I appreciate it very much. If there are other concerns, please don't hesitate to let me know. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:55, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly revoke TPA

2601:248:C301:5E97:8C0A:47BC:3CCC:5220 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) General Ization Talk 02:56, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the IP has stopped since, so I'll leave things be unless things change. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:58, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Spamming?

Hi! You removed a link in Mortgage calculator that pointed to a Mortgage calculator which was no different from the other links that are on the page. What is the difference? Thank you in advance for your time.

Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.181.183.247 (talk) 04:03, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I apologize for the delay getting back to you. I believe I responded to your message above. Please let me know if you have further questions and I'll be happy to help you. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:17, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

False revert

Hello. I'd like to say that you made a false revert. I used reliable sources to find my info and you just reverted it Please undo it. Sincerely, Andrew Davis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:63CB:2400:8DC7:9BFA:3715:9464 (talk) 05:48, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent RevDel actions

I see that recently you've redacted user creation logs, while leaving these users' block logs intact and even giving these users talk pages. Is there any reason for this? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:09, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Od Mishehu - No. They should have been deleted/redacted if the usernames were inappropriate. I've been making sure to do this since you left me feedback about this a few months ago... I'll need to backtrack and fix what I missed. Thanks for the heads up :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:09, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Hello, I know that this is very late, especially considering that these messages were sent in March 2016 however you messaged me stating that I was editing and vandalising an article for North Liverpool Academy. I can safely say that I have never visited that page before nor have I edited anything for the past few years (and I would do so with my username) so it was not me who did this and I suspect that you may have made a mistake. Thank you, 2.24.66.147 (talk) 15:41, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There may be a chance that a different person using the IP address 2.24.66.147 made those edits and not you who posted this message. A message was posted on an IP talk page dated 2015 when it was probably unread until I was in Wikipedia reading it but I knew it wasn't me because I was not editing Wikipedia before. Iggy (talk) 15:48, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays
Wishing you a happy holiday season! Times flies and 2018 is around the corner. Thank you for your contributions. ~ K.e.coffman (talk) 00:20, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings

Hello Oshwah: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 16:40, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy holidays!


Happy Holidays!


Hello Oshwah! Hope you have a great Christmas, New Year, or whatever you celebrate! RileyBugz会話投稿記録 22:53, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!

Wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year 2018!
A very Happy, Glorious, Prosperous Christmas and New Year! God bless!  — Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:00, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail

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It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.Clarkcj12 (talk) 06:00, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Clarkcj12 - Responded. I'll check in with the team and update you via email when I have more information. Cheers -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:08, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

As a treat for you 'cause it's nearly Xmas 😉 Hastiness (talk) 15:39, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!


–Miles Edgeworth Happy Xmas is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year !!!

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Hello Oshwah, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2018. May you and your family have a Happy, Safe and Prosperous New Year!
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--Cameron11598 (Talk) 00:18, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays
From Stave one of Dickens A Christmas Carol

Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail. Mind! I don’t mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country’s done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.

So you see even Charles was looking for a reliable source :-) Thank you for your contributions to the 'pedia. ~ MarnetteD|Talk 00:19, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 02:31, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Oshwah; merry Christmas!

Hi Oshwah, how are you doing? Hope all is well at your end. Merry Christmas and happy holidays.

I also wanted to request you for something. At my last Rfa, you had provided exhaustive feedback on the areas you would wish to see me improve (esp. the responses to vandalism and to vandals). Since then, I've worked on my orientation quite a bit and have personally experienced the benefit of the remodeled approach. At the same time, I'd want to request you to give a quick look to my edits and give me feedback if required. It would be wonderful if you could take some time out for that. Look forward to hearing from you. Again, happy new year. And as always, love and wishes, Lourdes 08:41, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lourdes! Merry Christmas to you as well (even though it's belated). Sure, I can do that if you'd like. Thinking about running again? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:10, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Oshwah, probably sometime early in the coming year. Will look forward to hear from you, Lourdes 09:11, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

False dates vandal again

The ip adding invented dates is again active...--Phso2 (talk) 09:36, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Phso2 - The IP is now blocked. Thanks for your message, and let me know if I can help with anything else. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:11, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!

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Hello Oshwah, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2018.
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JudeccaXIII (talk) 20:22, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays

The white snow and the cool breeze beckon a festive mood,
And the sweet aroma wafting from eateries wreathes the mind.
Lights, stars, colour and jollity abound 'round each bend,
I wish you a happy holiday season, dear friend.

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Editing can get tough and frustrating at times, but we've come a long way in this project and that is a grand achievement. Hope you have a good time this festive season! :) Jiten talk contribs 23:33, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!

Hello Oshwah: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, —MRD2014 Merry Christmas! 01:46, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Merry Christmas!

Hello Oshwah: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 03:23, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Merry Christmas 2017!


Merry Christmas


This user wishes you a very Merry Christmas.

Amaury (talk | contribs) 08:23, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

A blessed feast to you and yours. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:17, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

SVKM's NMIMS

Hi there. I'm contacting you as the administrator who protected SVKM's NMIMS. It seems like the same minute the protection was lifted (maybe by coincidence) the same editor has returned with pretty much the same disruptive edits, introducing unsourced accreditation and other material. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 23:35, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your page seemed familiar, so I searched a bit... Actually, I already discussed this one with you. --Muhandes (talk) 23:38, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Muhandes - No problem. Did you still need help with this? Or are things still good to go? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:18, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I wasn't clear. User:Nirvana dreamer which you blocked based on his edits at SVKM's NMIMS, then came back as multiple IPs which you blocked, extended the block on the user and protected the article. As the protection was lifted, he came back as User:Blr80. So yes please, help is needed, he keeps the same edit pattern, trying to introduced unsourced accreditation. --Muhandes (talk) 07:38, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your removal of my Terry Redlin edit!

If you would have done a 10 second google you would of found this page from the terry redlin art center website!

https://redlinart.com/about-terry

"Then in 1953, at age 15, he lost one of his legs after a motorcycle accident. With his dream job out of sight, he turned to his next passion—art."

Did you even google anything?

2605:A601:CC7:3500:5521:80A8:7CE4:C70A (talk) 01:28, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)It is your responsibility to provide sources for your changes. See WP:RS for what constitutes a reliable source and WP:REFB for a guide to adding references. Furthermore, the text you added seems to be a direct copy of the wording on the website and amounts to a copyright violation. You should not copy any wording from elsewhere. Eagleash (talk) 07:28, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Page Creation

Hello Oshwah

Just wanted to confirm how to own create wiki public page.

Thanks and Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.180.20.5 (talk) 16:09, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) IP addresses cannot create articles. !dave 16:23, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays!

Happy holidays, and thanks for all you do, Oshwah! Best, GPRamirez5 (talk) 17:31, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New here and am overwhelmed

I am new here and I am so overwhelmed and I honestly don't even know where to start! Any help you could give me I would appreciate so much because I don't want to make a mistake and hurt someone else's work! Thank you so much for the help you are about to give me because it is appreciated! OhioGirl42986 18:14, 26 December 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by OhioGirl42986 (talk • contribs)

Giles O Grady edit

Hi there,

My name is Giles O Grady and i am trying to edit the page in my name as the information is incorrect. But any time i try to edit you keep undoing it and reverting it back to the way it was. Can you please delete this infirmation on me as it is false and misleading — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charliesbar (talk • contribs) 21:50, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Charliesbar: Oshwah has not edited since Dec 20 (barring a quick block and protect on XmasDay), so he is probably not going to get back to you soon. To Oshwah :I hope you took my thoughts into consideration Oshwah, and return soon better than ever before. !dave 11:05, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, My name is not dave - I'm back from my break and I'm not skipping anyone's messages here ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:48, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Charliesbar - What about this content is misleading? And if you're claiming to be the person this article is about, you need to contact the volunteer response team by clicking here. They have the tools and training to verify your identity and address your concerns. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:46, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm AntiCompositeNumber. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Sumukhi Suresh, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 16:09, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AntiCompositeNumber - Ah yeah, thank you for doing that. I was only fixing the copy and paste move with a hist merge; I was not marking the page as reviewed. Software must've done that on it's own :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:49, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Gosh darn it Page Curation leaving messages where I don't want it to..... I don't know if this means I should be patrolling new pages more or less often. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 02:13, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
AntiCompositeNumber - No worries; I occasionally leave automated CSD notices on talk pages of admins that didn't create the article originally (just moved or did something else). No biggie ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:14, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re. Olam International

Dear Oshwah Thank you for your help previously on Dec 12th. (Sorry - I couldn't see the 'edit' link on our conversation to add my reply??) I have made a proposal on the Talk page for Olam. Best wishes for 2018. Nikki NikkiBarber (talk) 17:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Ndidi

Evening, hope you had a splendid holiday. I created the All Africa Music Awards article, check it out. I would appreciate a feedback too. Season greetings. Aghachi7 (talk) 20:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My brother Tony Henry and Ian Aspinall are best friends. Tony Henry is my brother. 52nd Street is my brother's band. Factory Records and Virgin Records. We all grew up together just off Castle Street, The Haulgh in Bolton. My brother's production company is Haulgh Production Ltd named after the area we all grew up in. You can check this information with Ian yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.141.182 (talk) 01:17, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Getaway Car/2017 in Vincent's life

Hi Oshwah. I came across User:Getaway Car/2017 in Vincent's life while doing some non-free image cleanup. It appears to be some kind of blog/diary and there is also a similar page for each year going back to 2012. Looking at the recent contributions of this editor, it appears that most of them for the past year have been to the editor's userpages, including creating things such as User:Getaway Car/vinceroyalty. Not sure what if anything needs be done here, but it does seem to be a case of WP:NOTWEBHOST. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:24, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Marchjuly - It could be a test page for a potential article. Have you messaged the user and asked him/her about it? :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:25, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet. I wanted to see what others thought first. I will post something on their user talk. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:29, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Marchjuly - Cool deal :-). Let me know if I can help with anything else, and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:45, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I posted something on their user talk and they hopefully will clarify things. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:18, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Edit

Look on quantum chromodynamics, it says my big pp in the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolestintheblock (talk • contribs) 02:58, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Others may disagree, but I think you made the right call with your initial block. If anything, the unblock was too hasty. Only a fool uses the term 'legal' while making a threat and then throws a tantrum when his threat is interpreted as a legal threat. Don't pay any attention to the insults; you're doing a fine job. Lepricavark (talk) 03:37, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Lepricavark - I appreciate the barnstar and for your kind words. I stand behind the interpretation that the message would constitute a legal threat to most typical readers, and I don't think the unblock was too hasty :-). He clarified the statement and what "legal" referred to, and hence I unblocked him. That was the center of the issue of the discussion, and since it was clarified, immediate unblocking was the right action to take :-). It's never fun to be "the bad guy", but it comes with the responsibility. Thanks again, Lepricavark. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:45, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Good block. Handled swiftly. There are some senior editors whose opinions I respect who seem to think the block was hasty, but given the response of the blocked party afterwards, it appears that Tony was angry (and hasty himself) before the block and is still angry after he did the (bare) minimum to get it lifted. Something going on which has little to do with Wikipedia, I'd infer from Tony's misspelling in the OP's link. When I invest trust in an admin candidate, I'm hoping that admin will act in the moment on their best judgment. I believe that's what I saw. Easy to second guess, but I thank you for your service. BusterD (talk) 03:52, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Everyone is good at second guessing, hindsight is 20/20, but it was a good block at the time. I'm happy if an admin who is quick to block is also quick to listen and unblock -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 03:55, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Okay this is too much. It was an honest and forgivable mistake undone with admirable swiftness but we shouldn't be giving out barnstars for mistakes, especially ones that involve blocking a 12 year contributor and one of the best writers on the encyclopedia without even having a word with him first. So here's a trout instead. Gamaliel (talk) 03:54, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Trouts are unhelpful as a general rule, but this one is ridiculous. With Tony1 continuing to vent his spleen without consequences, there is no need for anyone else to yell at Oshwah, especially since he was completely right in the first place. Lepricavark (talk) 03:58, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have no intention of yelling at anyone. I have no issue with Oshwah, only with those who think that bad blocks are cause for celebration. Gamaliel (talk) 04:00, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
'Yell' was a poor choice of words on my part. You are misrepresenting my opinion. I am not celebrating a bad block, as I obviously believe it was a good block. Tony1's vitriolic, bigoted reaction to being told 'Merry Christmas' was grounds in and of itself for him to be blocked for much longer than the mere half hour he actually spent blocked. Lepricavark (talk) 04:04, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The trouting is fine :-). He's free to whack me with a slippery nasty one, just as you are free to leave the barnstar that you did - Gamaliel is stating his opinion, and he's entitled to it as you are with yours. No big deal :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:05, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I admire your unflappable demeanor throughout this situation and you are right about it not being a big deal, so I'll stop arguing. Lepricavark (talk) 04:11, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Lepricavark - Nothing on Wikipedia is worth getting worked up over... especially silly things like this :-). I appreciate your kind words. To end with a quote I have on my user page: "Raise your words, not your voice. It is the rain that grows flowers, not thunder." - Rumi ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:16, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's a good quote. I should write that one down somewhere. Lepricavark (talk) 04:25, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You're earning your hefty admin pay today! --NeilN talk to me 04:05, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

NeilN - No kidding :-). I appreciated your input on the ANI, NeilN. It was fair and neutral and I appreciated it greatly - thank you. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:06, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't give out barnstars when someone does their job; it was a good block. There was no way you could have known that something else was intended, if that's what it was. You also don't deserve to get trouted, so I'm taking that thing with me. Take it easy Oshwah, Drmies (talk) 04:16, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    To clarify, I also usually wouldn't give out barnstars for someone simply doing their job. In this case, I was partly motivated by the flak Oshwah was catching; flak that I felt was unfair. I hope that makes sense. Lepricavark (talk) 04:25, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's the thought that counts, right? ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:26, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's what I keep telling my parents, but they still aren't happy with the box of toothpicks I gave them for Christmas. I'm kidding. They were delighted. Lepricavark (talk) 04:31, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • As a matter of principle, I think the block was too quick (7 minutes after the report); in hindsight, the wording was not really clear cut, since the opinions on the "impression" in the AN/I thread appears to be split (I share the same initial impression with NeilN, SlimVirgin, Newyorkbrad and Casliber). Given that Tony1 was active at the time, personally I think an immediate clarification/redaction request/warning would have sufficed (especially given that Tony1 was still editing 20 minutes ago prior to the block). I am not saying we should treat experienced editors differently, but I think it's necessary to read over the contribution history and backgrounds to avoid potential backlash (creating unnecessary drama), and that's my rationale for "too quick". The subsequent response by Tony1 however does prove that the editor was not really willing to interact collegially, in which I think the block was fine and justified given the context. Thank you for your work, Oshwah! Alex Shih (talk) 05:24, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Alex Shih - I appreciated your input very much, and I will take it to heart moving forward. Thank you :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:26, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'd agree that I'd probably have gone "Are you sure you want to do this, Tony?" first, but it certainly wasn't a bad block, and I'm still utterly baffled at his explosion that led to the whole mess - I agree with both Lepricavark there (perhaps not to the point of an immediate block for that, but certainly a 'Last And Final'), and Alex's assessment of the aftermath. And I remain completely flummoxed how anyone could consider "a legal matter" to refer to ANI. Anyway, hopefully the morning will help Tony look at things soberly and reconsider his flounce, and we can all move on with defending the encyclopedia. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:14, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I know you acted with good intent, Oshwah, as I said on Tony's talk page, but I also suggest you apologize to him there. You aren't required to, of course, but it might help mend things. Jonathunder (talk) 06:32, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

hi

hi

ethan :(

Let me add critically acclaimed Arizonian artist, Ethan (Boss Baby, Meth Man, Rochard, Spouse) to the Ethan (given name) page he deserves it because he's talented and famous. This is verifiable because I have seen his art and decided he needed to be added. Thanks. 2602:306:CFAC:5500:79E3:C141:EBB6:BDD2 (talk) 07:42, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) He doesn't have a Wikipedia article. That's generally the rule for when it comes to inclusion on a list. !dave 08:21, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

One peoples project

I am unsure why you changed my edit, it had no bias in it, I merely mentioned that they were far left group which they are — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.253.13.241 (talk) 11:48, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you refer to the organization as a "far left racist" network just a minute prior here? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:50, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

they are a far left group, you cant dispute that and the racist is because of there methods which include assault, treating and stalking as well as there support and celebration of the shooting in Dalles that left 12 police offices died in the middle of the black lives matter movement — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.253.13.241 (talk) 11:57, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And that's exactly why I reverted your edit. You appear to have a point of view with this article subject or topic, and you're not editing this article neutrally. I highly recommend that you edit in a different topic and where you don't have viewpoints with. If you have any questions, let me know. Best -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:00, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand they are a far left racist group, far left at the lest

Appears, at the moment, to merely be your own opinion. Find three high quality reliable sources that mention the group as far left. !dave 12:15, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/08/daryle-jenkins-has-stepped-up-to-explain-the-shadowy-groups-violent-tactics-to-the-world.html https://www.amren.com/news/2014/01/daryle-lamont-jenkins-of-one-peoples-project-ordered-to-pay-50000-for-shutting-down-2010-american-renaissance-conference/ MNSBC News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLfIxmy2otU http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/?p=3999

you need any more proof — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.253.13.241 (talk) 12:27, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Designated Drivers edit

Designated Driver services have been available in Singapore since 2011 and have gain much more awareness through the years. Service providers links up with many clubs and popular night spots to actively promote their Drive-Home services for intoxicated drivers. The Singapore Police Force too have been promoting #dontdrive2drink advise to drivers. Don’t Drive to Drink, and You’d Never Drink and Drive.

It’s a fact. Edited and removed any businesses link.

External link to our website removal acceptable. This is a fact. Why omit Singapore?

“Designated Driver services have been available in Singapore since 2011 and have gain much more awareness through the years. Service providers links up with many clubs and popular night spots to actively promote their Drive-Home services for intoxicated drivers. The Singapore Police Force too have been promoting #dontdrive2drink advise to drivers. Don’t Drive to Drink, and You’d Never Drink and Drive.”

Accepted the edit to External Links for promoting our business.

Hope you’d review your decision.

Cheers Happy New Year.

119.56.103.146 (talk) 12:04, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Course of action

Hello there Oshwah. I just read the summary of my report at ANI. The sanctions against him were lifted almost immediately (he was not sanctioned for the insults and the attack against me—just because I wished him Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year—) and the editor went back to the article and reverted for the third time (he even restored the incoherent phrase in the introduction). Should I file a 3RR? Is there a point in doing that against someone who says that he retired from wiki? Thank you, take care. I would like to wish you a Happy New Year and I sincerely hope you won't be insulted by it. Gtrbolivar (talk) 12:41, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gtrbolivar - Why would I be insulted if you wished me a happy new year? lol :-). No; filing a 3RR report isn't needed. The situation since then has changed (due to the events at the ANI) and the editing on the article has obviously stopped, so blocking this user for edit warring (aside from making the user much more angrier and becoming more uncivil with their comments) would be inappropriate and not made in a preventative measure given the events and timeline. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message, and I wish you well :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:48, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The world has changed dramatically Oshwah. As I learned yesterday, even inside an online encyclopedic project, people could actually attack you just because you wished them Merry Christmas and a happy new year. Anyway, as I explained in my last post, after you lifted the sanctions against him, he went back to the article and reverted, reinstating his intial version [10] which contains the following incoherent phrase in the introduction: "Olympiacos Water Polo Team is the men's water polo team of the major Greek s Olympiacos CFP, based in Piraeus". The article is now left with his version after a clear 3RR. Should I revert it since I'm not allowed to file a 3RR? I would appreciate it if you could give me your advice. Gtrbolivar (talk) 13:04, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Gtrbolivar - I think we need to expand the discussion and ask for the input of uninvolved users on the talk page first if possible, and have uninvolved input on the revision that should be published. I've fully protected the article; given the dispute as a whole, the reverts made to the article, and the fact that the entire issue (as well as the events that followed on the ANI) have resulted in very heated messages and different input from others, I think that fully protecting the article and making sure that we take the time to examine and discuss the dispute first is the right thing to do. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:15, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I agree 100% that a discussion is the right way to proceed. Where should I state my arguments? I've already done so in the article's talk page. The article in now left with the sentence "Olympiacos Water Polo Club is the men's water polo team of the major Greek s Olympiacos CFP, based in Piraeus." which is incoherent and means nothing. Tony1 said that there was a "fault" with a script. Despite the fact that he admitted that this sentence is a "fault" he finally ended up reinstating it to the article just before retiring. Go figure. What should I do to change it now with the page fully protected? Gtrbolivar (talk) 13:26, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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