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"Hast thou given the horse strength? Hast thou clothed his neck with thunder?
He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage..."
~~Book of Job, Old Testament

"...through his mane and tail the high wind sings,
Fanning the hairs, who wave like feather'd wings."
~~William Shakespeare

"He is fire and wind transformed into poetic majesty;
A sonnet of beauty and grace;
A rhapsody of power in motion.
His strength and beauty captivates us.
His magnificence tantalizes the mind with wonder and amazement.
He fills our dreams with fanciful images of riding through clouds;
Of finding unicorns in magical forests;
Of taming wild mustangs."
~~Betty Wills

"And God took a handful of southerly wind,
blew his breath over it,
and created the horse."
~~Bedouin Legend

Opening segment of the PBS episode, A Celebration of Horses with William Shatner
~

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DYK, GA, FA/FP notices and various barnstars I proudly display because in my book, the editors who reviewed the submissions or awarded the barnstars are the ones worthy of mention.
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Gabor B. Racz Thought of complimenting you for this article. A good one mainly in terms of prose quality. Best --PeterCRames (talk) 19:20, 19 July 2014 (UTC) What a nice compliment. Thank you, PeterCRames.Atsme☯Consult 03:50, 20 July 2014 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Resilient Barnstar OK, I hope you're happy with your work, I think it's fabulous! And I'm also glad that we could (resolve? set aside? put on hiatus?) our differences elsewhere and that it led to this accomplishment of yours. Cheers! — alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:11, 12 April 2014 (UTC) Thank you, Alf. It means a great deal more to me coming from you. I don't even consider our differences as anything to set aside, much less consider. I learned a great deal from the experience, and thank you kindly. Now then, is the article still supposed to be in my sandbox, or did I screw-up yet again? Atsme☯Consult 19:17, 12 April 2014 (UTC) No, it's normal that it's still in your sandbox. When you move a page out of userspace into mainspace that just happens. You can blank the sandbox version and it won't affect the real version, and then use your sandbox for other stuff. Would you be interested in trying to write a DYK (WP:DYK) from your new article? It'll get it on the main page for a few hours. That process can be a little overwhelming, I know, but if you'd like to try I can help you, or if you'd like it to happen but don't want to get involved, I can do it for you (which is normal, other people proposing DYKs for new articles).— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:23, 12 April 2014 (UTC) I'd love to do something new. If you have the patience to work with me, I'm game. Also, I noticed in the "view history" of my new article, it shows all the edits. Uh oh? Or is that normal? You might want to take a peek at it. Atsme☯Consult 19:26, 12 April 2014 (UTC) It's supposed to show the history, don't worry about that. I'll think about what might be a good hook, and maybe you can read over the instructions at the DYK page. I believe you have 5 days or 10 days or something from when it's moved into mainspace, so it's not a super hurry.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC) You can take the lead, and just coach me along so I can see first hand how it's done. Is that ok? Atsme☯Consult 19:33, 12 April 2014 (UTC) OK, will do later today or tomorrow and let you know what's going on.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:38, 12 April 2014 (UTC) I miss your insightfulness, your patience, and your genius, Alf.laylah.wa.laylah. I hope you are checking in from time to time, and will see my post. Please come back soon. Atsme☯Consult 20:49, 13 March 2015 (UTC) The above thread is referring to Gabor B. Racz which further substantiates how wrong it was for editors to initiate a WP:GAR within minutes following the wrongful accusations of a COI against me at COIN, particularly regarding this BLP. What ensued at the GAR discussions and on the article's TP should serve as a lesson to all of us regarding allegations of COI without justification, and the only reason I am now bringing it up. Atsme📞📧 17:19, 25 November 2015 (UTC) Your GA nomination of Alligator gar The article Alligator gar you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Alligator gar for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Cwmhiraeth -- Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:42, 11 July 2014 (UTC) For your information, your chain moray eel image is now in The Signpost. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:57, 15 July 2014 (UTC) Cwmhiraeth, thank you for the update, and congratulations on your accomplishments!! Atsme☯Consult 03:59, 16 July 2014 (UTC) I did the DYK nomination It's here: Template:Did you know nominations/Gabor B. Racz‎. You might want to put it on your watchlist because it's sometimes necessary to do a little editing before it's accepted, but in this case I think that'll be minimal. By the way, you should be quite proud of the minimal attention the article got from new page patrollers. You probably didn't realize it, but those two or three small edits people made right after you moved it were just the tip of the iceberg of probably around a hundred people looking it over to make sure it wasn't too crappy to survive, and then it got assessed with a C by the bio wikiproject. Very good!— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 22:10, 13 April 2014 (UTC) Makes me smile. Thank you. I'm reading up on QPQ, DYK, KMA, IDK, MMD, etc., etc., etc. I have a 6 ft. sheet of initialisms and acronyms that will probably take me 3 years to learn. Atsme☯ talk 22:23, 13 April 2014 (UTC) @Alf.laylah.wa.laylah: So what happens next? DYK for Gabor B. Racz slakr\ talk / 23:08, 25 April 2014 (UTC) Congratulations! For this!— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 22:23, 24 April 2014 (UTC) Oh, WOW, Alf!!! WOW!! We did it!!! Thank you, thank you!!! Atsme☯ talk 23:46, 25 April 2014 (UTC) Did you look at the main page and see it on there? I took a screenshot for you in case you want a souvenir, which I can email to you if you'd like. Fabulous work, it flew right through the review. That's very rare on a first try. You should be proud. There are all kinds of little widgets you can put on your userpage to commemorate the occasion if you want to.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 00:20, 26 April 2014 (UTC) The article's main page, or one of the links on the banner? Not quite versed in navigating DYK. I would love a souvenir, Alf - thank you bunches, and thank you for the kind words, but I can't take full credit. I had one helluva teacher in you! Where do I get the widgets? Oh, and I added the DYK tool, I think. I need to read up on the DYK procedures, because right now it's all a bit confusing. Once that light goes on in my head, I'll be on the fast track. I also made my first template, and uploaded more pictures to Commons. That was fun, too. Just have to be careful I don't grow roots in this chair. I lose track of time, and before I realize it, 10 to 12 hrs have passed. Atsme☯ talk 02:46, 26 April 2014 (UTC) No, the actual front page of Wikipedia that the whole world sees when they land on it. It's still on there now, so you can see it live, but in case you don't get this in time I'll send you the screenshot anyway. It's amazing how time flies, isn't it?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 02:58, 26 April 2014 (UTC) Oh, Wow!!! No, I didn't know!! Atsme☯ talk 03:01, 26 April 2014 (UTC) Yeah, that's the payoff for writing good new content. Amazing, isn't it? Do you know how to check page views in the article history? Wait till the date changes and you'll see your article got thousands of views today.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 03:05, 26 April 2014 (UTC) Sure is a good feeling, Alf. Amazing, and very rewarding. Page views? I don't know how to check page views. That is really awesome beyond words! Is there a link to the Widgets for my user page? --Atsme☯ talk 03:17, 26 April 2014 (UTC) I'm not sure if there's a general link. I use little teensy ones that I copied off someone else's page, you can see them on my user page. Also you can just look at other people's userpages who do DYKs and see what they do. That's probably the best way to find them, but also there might be a category or a list of them somewhere, I just don't know.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 03:24, 26 April 2014 (UTC) DYK for Alligator gar Gatoclass (talk) 05:37, 20 July 2014 (UTC) A kitten for you! Great works!! You have improved a lot....Keep up.... The herald 15:33, 27 July 2014 (UTC) The Herald - how sweet - thank you!! And thank you for being so patient and giving of your time. I'm pretty excited about a couple new projects I'm working on offline, and also trying to improve a very inaccurate "start" article that relies heavily on self-published sources, and original research. Atsme☯Consult 16:13, 28 July 2014 (UTC) Your GA nomination of American paddlefish The article American paddlefish you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:American paddlefish for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FunkMonk -- FunkMonk (talk) 00:42, 5 September 2014 (UTC) Your GA nomination of Bowfin The article Bowfin you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Bowfin for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:43, 29 September 2014 (UTC) DYK for American paddlefish —HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:02, 7 October 2014 (UTC) Barnstar The Original Barnstar To Atsme, an overdue barnstar for the impressive articles she has written on "primitive" fish. Well done! --Epipelagic (talk) 19:38, 11 October 2014 (UTC) Thank you kindly, User:Epipelagic. Your recognition is much appreciated. Atsme☯Consult 22:31, 11 October 2014 (UTC) DYK for Bowfin  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:43, 19 October 2014 (UTC) DYK for Synodus intermedius Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 November 2014 (UTC) Your GA nomination of Gabor B. Racz The article Gabor B. Racz you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Gabor B. Racz for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Cwmhiraeth -- Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:03, 1 December 2014 (UTC) Cwmhiraeth, thank you for your tireless efforts. Atsme☯Consult 22:06, 1 December 2014 (UTC) FA congratulations Just a quick note to congratulate you on the promotion of American paddlefish to FA status recently. If you would like to see this (or any other FA) appear as "Today's featured article" soon (either on a particular date or on any available date), please nominate it at the requests page. If you'd like to see an FA appear on a particular date in the next year or so, please add it to the "pending" list. In the absence of a request, the article may end up being picked at any time (although with about 1,287 articles waiting their turn at present, there's no telling how long – or short! – the wait might be). If you'd got any TFA-related questions or problems, please let me know. BencherliteTalk 10:46, 3 December 2014 (UTC) Thank you, Bencherlite. I believe in the DYK/GA/FA process, admire the reviewers for their diligence, and generosity of their time, and hope I will be able to help bring more quality articles to Wikipedia. Atsme☯Consult 12:25, 3 December 2014 (UTC) Today's Featured Article: Notification This is to inform you that American paddlefish, which you nominated at WP:FAC, will appear on the Wikipedia Main Page as Today's Featured Article on 24 December 2014. The proposed main page blurb is here; you may amend if necessary. Please check for dead links and other possible faults before the appearance date. Brianboulton (talk) 23:24, 4 December 2014 (UTC) Precious intrinsic beauty of sharing knowledge Thank you, free at last, for quality articles such as American paddlefish and Gabor B. Racz, written with the background of experience and in the spirit that there's "something indescribable, yet intrinsically beautiful about sharing knowledge", - you are an awesome Wikipedian! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 24 December 2014 (UTC) One of the best Christmas gifts ever. Thank you Gerda Arendt. It is such an honor to receive this from you!! Atsme☯Consult 13:35, 24 December 2014 (UTC) A year ago, you were recipient no. 1072 of Precious, a prize of QAI! Thank you for great wishes, starting early, - I am still on my way and found in a 16th century text (and music) inspiration to go over the mountains, be inspired, support each other, and sing! All the good wishes are open now on my talk, to be shared, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 24 December 2015 (UTC) Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Chain Moray An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status Your image, File:Chain moray eel.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Armbrust The Homunculus 03:32, 6 February 2015 (UTC) Congrats. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:00, 7 February 2015 (UTC) Thank you. Atsme☯Consult 08:36, 10 February 2015 (UTC) Barnstar Awarded! The Barnstar of Integrity In recognition of your COI Ducks essay, which I find to be of value in facing the fact that Wikipedia has a serious ongoing problem. It takes bravery and moral conviction to stand up against the forces of organized COI editing. Thanks for your work. Jusdafax 15:38, 7 April 2015 (UTC) By the way, I see you had the same type of visitor I had today. I've banned him from my talk page, just so you know you aren't the only one. Best wishes, Jusdafax 21:47, 7 April 2015 (UTC) Thank you for the lovely barnstar, Jusdafax. My TP will wear it with pride. Atsme☯Consult 04:08, 8 April 2015 (UTC) To Atsme Ice Cream Award Atsme, gotta love being propped up to do a favor for others, only to be thrown to the wolves with no one by your side, eh? Welcome to Wikipedia! I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out how to make it up to you, and then i remembered..... ice cream exists. Please have some. You deserve it. petrarchan47tc 23:10, 5 April 2015 (UTC) I'll definitely take it!! Thank you, Petra! Atsme☯Consult 01:16, 6 April 2015 (UTC) While you're enjoying your ice cream, you might feel to watch this. petrarchan47tc 23:25, 8 April 2015 (UTC) And this. petrarchan47tc 00:12, 9 April 2015 (UTC) Believe it or not, I just sat down with a bowl of ice cream (Chocolate Royale) and fired up the computer and read this, so yes, I thoroughly enjoyed all the treats, thank you! Atsme☯Consult 02:14, 9 April 2015 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Copyeditor's Barnstar For your work in Nirmala. Looks like you are a bit busy with all. Good day.. -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 03:59, 8 April 2015 (UTC) This is lovely, TH. Thank you. It was a fun article to collaborate on with you. Atsme☯Consult 04:05, 8 April 2015 (UTC) God willin', you will have another collaboration soon. Its a mammoth one. -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 04:13, 8 April 2015 (UTC) Shall I hint you? It's the most beautiful building in the world. Check my contribs and help me. -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 07:31, 11 April 2015 (UTC) Some bubble tea for you! Drink it and tie your belt to review pending changes..:) -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 09:16, 13 April 2015 (UTC) Bubble tea!! Thank you!! Atsme☯Consult 17:37, 13 April 2015 (UTC) Essay The Barnstar of Diplomacy I really can't claim to be a fan of the essay, but I would like to say that I appreciate the edits made in response to my concerns. I also respect and appreciate that you were willing and able to hear my concerns in the midst of an emotional and confrontational discussion. Formerly 98 talk|contribs|COI statement 12:54, 14 April 2015 (UTC) Thank you, Formerly 98. I am flattered and honored by your gesture of kindness. I do hope we can work together in a productive collaboration in the near future. I really do like your style. Atsme☯Consult 00:23, 15 April 2015 (UTC) A kitten for you! Woke up just now to see Nirmala already a GA!!! Gratitude........ -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 02:03, 18 April 2015 (UTC) Almost, but not quite. I'll still gratefully accept the fuzzy little kitty. Atsme☯Consult 03:28, 18 April 2015 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar You deserve the barnstar and the credit. Forget not to add a userbox in Nirmala's name.... -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 11:33, 18 April 2015 (UTC) Dearest Mentor O Mine, I am honored. Thank you. Atsme☯Consult 15:49, 18 April 2015 (UTC) Great..can you do just another small favor? Check your mail...-The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength A barnstar for you! The Editor's Barnstar GREAT job! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:36, 3 January 2015 (UTC) Thank you, User:7&6=thirteen. Your collaboration was much appreciated. Atsme☯Consult 01:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC) A cupcake for you! Have a nice day Atsme Govindaharihari (talk) 13:50, 1 August 2015 (UTC) How sweet! Thank you, Govindaharihari. Your cupcake made it a nice day. Atsme📞📧 14:20, 1 August 2015 (UTC) A beer for you! (It was this or something called "bubble tea"- hope you like beer!) I see WP has regained a bit of its sanity. Welcome back xxxooo petrarchan47คุก 00:07, 14 August 2015 (UTC) Thanks for uploading the pictures A cute pinto foal for you! Thanks for uploading the photos, I added them to the articles (both the I Am Jose ones to his article, and one of him and the arena picture to the TWHNC article. Thanks again! 😊 White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 20:33, 17 November 2015 (UTC) You are very welcome! 😊Atsme📞📧 17:03, 18 November 2015 (UTC) By the way, you're invited to suggest material for my crazy edits page. 😀White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 21:38, 18 November 2015 (UTC) Some dim sum for you! Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. North America1000 09:54, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Holidays and special occasions
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Happy Thanksgiving! A Thanksgiving turkey for you! Happy Thanksgiving! White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 16:22, 25 November 2015 (UTC) How sweet!! Thank you!! I intend to make it the happiest Thanksgiving ever!! I say that every year and because of my spotty memory, each one is the happiest!!! Atsme📞📧 16:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC) Hope it was happy, now that it's mostly over!😃 White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 02:53, 27 November 2015 (UTC) Happy Holidays! Ozzie10aaaa (talk) has given you a Christmas tree! Christmas trees promote WikiLove and are a great way to spread holiday cheer. Merry Christmas! Spread the WikiLove by adding {{subst:User:The Utahraptor/Christmas tree}} to any editor's talk page with a friendly message. --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:16, 10 December 2015 (UTC) Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Santa Claus and horses Merry Christmas and happy new year!🎄🎁🎉 White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 23:01, 14 December 2015 (UTC) happy holidays to you as well Season's Greetings File:Xmas Ornament.jpg To You and Yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 11:00, 20 December 2015 (UTC) Thank you, Bzuk, and the same to you!! Atsme📞📧 19:28, 20 December 2015 (UTC) Season's Greetings! Hello Atsme: Enjoy the holiday season and upcoming winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 18:47, 20 December 2015 (UTC) Use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message Beautiful!! Thank you, Northamerica1000 --Atsme📞📧 19:28, 20 December 2015 (UTC) Merry Christmas Merry Christmas!! Hello, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year, Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia!    –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 16:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC) Best wishes for the holidays... II you Season's Greetings Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Hafspajen (talk) 11:53, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Beautiful - thank you, Hafspajen. Greetings Season's greetings and all the best in the upcoming New Year! Brandmeistertalk 15:31, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Wow - animated, too. Love it!! Thank you, Brandmeister. Merry Christmas Merry Christmas! I've been hearing from the elves that you've been a little worried about how Santa's list is looking for you. They say he's almost done with his second check, and so far it looks like you've hardly been naughty at all! Thanks for the work you do and the help and nice words that you have shared with me. You have brought joy into my work here. I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year Gandydancer (talk) 17:52, 23 December 2015 (UTC) My thanks to you... ...for your card. I hope that you and yours have had, and will have, a good holiday, and a happy and productive New Year. BMK (talk) 20:38, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Wonderful holidays Merry Christmas and a happy New Year! --Tremonist (talk) 15:22, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Awwww...how sweet, Tremonist. Thank you!!! Atsme📞📧 15:35, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Merry Christmas Atsme! Popish Plot (talk) 20:34, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Back at ya, Popish - on your TP. Atsme📞📧 20:56, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Season's Greetings Wishing you a Charlie Brown Charlie Russell Christmas! 🎄 Best wishes for your Christmas Is all you get from me 'Cause I ain't no Santa Claus Don't own no Christmas tree. But if wishes was health and money I'd fill your buck-skin poke Your doctor would go hungry An' you never would be broke." —C.M. Russell, Christmas greeting 1914. Montanabw(talk) Thank you, Montanabw. I imagine it's snowing where you are right now, so snuggle up by the fireplace and stay warm. I hear a fire in the fireplace is ok on Christmas Eve because Santa has an alternate route. 🎁 Atsme📞📧 20:37, 24 December 2015 (UTC) Season's Greetings Season's Greetings A very happy holidays to you! --Godot13 (talk) 06:03, 25 December 2015 (UTC) Best wishes for 2016 . . . Atsme, may you continue to make Wikipedia a better place in the New Year. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:42, 31 December 2015 (UTC) Auld Lang Syne brings back so many memories. 🎼 🎤 Thank you, Dirtlawyer1. I am ready for the countdown. 💃🍸🎉 Atsme📞📧 15:08, 31 December 2015 (UTC) Happy New Year, Atsme! Happy New Year! Atsme, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 10:35, 1 January 2016 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages. Thank you, Davey2010!! It was certainly happy last night!! Wishing you a happy and productive 2016!! Atsme📞📧 16:00, 1 January 2016 (UTC) You're welcome :), Haha same here!, By Monday It'll all be back to normal & everyone will be miserable again , Thanks and I wish you a very Happy New Year too :) .... again! . –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 22:10, 1 January 2016 (UTC) Yo Ho Ho ϢereSpielChequers is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone! Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec15c}} to your friends' talk pages. 2016 year of the reader and peace 2016 peace bell Thank you for your wishes, returned with my review, and the peace bell by Yunshui! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:33, 31 December 2015 (UTC) So sweet! Thank you, Gerda Arendt. You are such a special Wikipedian. Atsme📞📧 15:09, 31 December 2015 (UTC) Thank you! - Click on bell for the sound ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 2 January 2016 (UTC) Oh, wow! Beautiful sound. It resonates! Thanks, Gerda. Atsme📞📧 14:33, 2 January 2016 (UTC) Happy Easter! Happy Easter To celebrate Easter and the beginning of spring, here's a cute Easter bunny for you! White Arabian Filly Neigh Awww, how cute...thank you, White Arabian Filly and HAPPY EASTER to you, too!! Atsme📞📧 15:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC) Happy Easter! Happy Easter Happy Easter! And have a great day! Horsegeek(talk) 17:15, 27 March 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek Thank you, Horsegeek! I love bunnies that lay eggs!! Hope they're full of chocolate inside. Atsme📞📧 17:18, 27 March 2016 (UTC) Of course Atsme! 😋🍫 Horsegeek(talk) 17:21, 27 March 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek

Closed discussion - COINoscopy
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Allegations of COI and the COIN fiasco Except for my very first run of newbie stupid in September 2011, I actually did do what I was supposed to do regarding the fish articles. No reason to cry over spilled milk but at least now my mind is at ease knowing that I acted above board from day one. I did disclose/declare COI on the talk pages of both paddlefish and sturgeon before any edits were made to the fish articles in 2014. Oct 14, 2011, Oct 14, 2011 The only response I received to my posts on the TPs of those articles was made on the Paddlefish TP 2 years later from an editor who collaborated with me on all of the subject articles plus a few others: I don't think any video showing people caught into questionable activities would fly here, unless the article was exactly about these questionable activity and those people. There would be concerns related to WP:BLP and privacy. About the documentary, that is probably a decent external link. By the way, why you editing the paddlefish article(s) would imply COI? Are you a paddlefish? --cyclopiaspeak! 15:00, 9 June 2014 (UTC) I'm a primitive species.  Self-trout I made the COI comment back in 2011 before I fully understood what it meant. Oh, and I'm still working on uploading some bowfin video. I also have some footage of a paddlefish filter feeding, which should probably go with the American paddlefish article, and not the paddlefish article, or should it? And what about the taxobox on both the American paddlefish article and Paddlefish article? The image is an American paddlefish which doesn't look anything like a Chinese paddlefish. It was confusing enough trying to keep the information in the article itself separated especially considering there are only two extant species with more differences between them than similarities. Anyway, look over it when you get a chance. Atsme☯ Consult 05:53, 11 June 2014 (UTC) Well, trout myself as well, I didn't notice it was a 2011 comment! I now still want to go ahead with the bowfin, but I'll have a look at the paddlefish situation when I can. --cyclopiaspeak! 07:36, 11 June 2014 (UTC) Also, same editor participated in the Alligator gar GA review and he knew about the COI as evidenced above. He had no issue with the inline citations to Earthwave. In fact, he insisted on keeping citations in the lede: [1] Another  Self-trout for not remembering. I just hope what happened to me never happens to anyone else. Atsme📞📧 03:16, 15 July 2015 (UTC) Is self-trouting the latest wiki-sport? ;-) I don't know if you have noticed but the COIN editor claims they are taking a "time-out" for "feedback". What a shame that those editors who can perhaps offer the best feedback are banned from his Talk page!DrChrissy (talk) 12:22, 15 July 2015 (UTC) Yes, but if you'll notice, my trouts are smaller than yours. This is one of those instances when smaller is better. Atsme📞📧 12:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC) Well that depends what you want to do with your trouts!DrChrissy (talk) 12:52, 15 July 2015 (UTC) Grilled with a garlic butter lemon sauce over a campfire situated beside a beautiful mountain stream. Atsme📞📧 13:01, 15 July 2015 (UTC) BBQ-d in wood coals, wrapped in tin foil containing lemon and slices of sweet potato.DrChrissy (talk) 13:10, 15 July 2015 (UTC) Sell it to somebody who likes fish, and spend the money on the ingredients for a Bacon Explosion. --Guy Macon (talk) 08:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC) Actually, I hate popcorn. Only useful in metaphor. -Roxy the dog™ (Resonate) 13:03, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	For your tireless contributions in bringing Loham to GA status. :-) Charles Turing (talk) 11:35, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Charles Turing. It was an interesting project to work on. Atsme^📞📧 17:55, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Meow! This cat swings all ways, vax and anti-vax, and will accept homeopathy, acupuncture, traditional Chinese medicine, and milk. And kitten hugs.

Drmies (talk) 14:34, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur. Happy kitty, sleepy kitty, purr, purr, purr. *lol* Thanks, Drmies. If that cat ever authors a book about feline acupuncture, I'll do my best to include a section on the motivation and inspiration behind it. In kitty language, CAM/Alt Med can only mean one thing - creature comfort. Cats are pretty amazing creatures, as I'm sure you're well aware. Following is what homeo-pity meant to our 20+ yr. old barn cat who actually knew she was going to die. I say that with conviction because of the events that led up to it, beginning with her rare visit to the house. She stood at my front door meowing until I answered. I didn't know what was wrong with her - she looked fine for her age - so I picked her up, and sat on the porch swing with her in my lap. She responded well to a little love and attention; laid very still purring while I gently rubbed her head. After I went back into the house, she stayed there in the swing. I found her little lifeless body the next morning exactly where I left her. She came to tell me goodbye. Atsme^📞📧 17:04, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Have a coffee and get ready.... -The Herald (Benison) • the joy of the LORDmy strength 16:52, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Yay!! Thank you. Glad you're back, TH. Atsme^📞📧 16:57, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Tipping

		The Involuntary Recumbency Barnstar
		For your contributions toward a greater understanding of human–bovine interactions. Thank you for the GA review of Cow tipping. Moo. Brianhe (talk) 14:03, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Well earned, although I personally have to admit that when I saw "involuntary recumbency" in the edit summary I was thinking that it was some sort of euphemism for being sick or in the hospital or something. John Carter (talk) 14:26, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Brianhe - it's not only a creative barnstar, it's one that is udderly appreciated. It really moooved me. Sooo...along the lines of what John Carter said, when I first saw "involuntary recumbency" I thought someone was going to force me to ride a recumbent. Q: What did the cow say to the cow-tipping rednecks? A: Don't mooove a muscle! ^{Atsme📞📧} 15:39, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

So is that what "don't forget to tip your server" means? --Tryptofish (talk) 16:49, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Question for all my "scientist" TP participants <--"participants" borrowed from Tryptofish as it's much better than "stalkers"

I have what some can refer to as a "thawing platform" - and no, it's not used to break the ice during an initial meet-up, and it has little to do with the term "cold fish" as used in society relative to human interactions. I just took a picture of my thawing-board and uploaded it to Commons because its simple engineering design fascinates the hell out of me. It actually does completely thaw a frozen steak or two in under an hour. I've had this little contraption since the 70s, and there are no electronic parts that can break down. I no longer have the instructions, so I went looking for something online that could help me understand how this contraption works without plugging it in. I found the following promo about a similar item. They refer to it as "innovative" which tells me nothing has come along in the past 40 years that surpasses it. Who can share the "science" (in laymen terms) that explains why this contraption thaws frozen food so quickly? ^{Atsme📞📧} 22:59, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

If you don't get an answer here, you could try posting at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science.DrChrissy ^(talk) 23:31, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Forgot to mention I agree with "Participants" rather than "Stalkers" - how did such a negative term ever get into such common useage! DrChrissy ^(talk) 23:34, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

You rang? OK, so the underlying science is too technical to bother with here, but the relevant concept is called heat capacity. Different substances have different heat capacities (for a tedious list: Heat capacities of the elements (data page)). In lay terms, it means that some substances can absorb and contain a whole lot of heat energy, whereas other substances can only contain a little bit of heat energy. Like a black pavement can get real hot when the sun shines on it on a summer day, but if you touch the leaf of a tree nearby, it won't be as hot as that. So your handy-dandy device is made out of something that has a very large heat capacity. You have the board at room temperature, or maybe you have warmed it up. Then you take out your cold steak, which has a lesser heat capacity, and put it in contact with the board. Now the temperatures of the steak and the board are going to try to equalize with each other (that's the Second Law of Thermodynamics!). So the board gives up some heat energy, and the steak absorbs some heat energy. And because the board can "donate" more energy than the steak can "accept", the net change is that the steak thaws out whereas the board just gets a bit cooler. Ta-daa! And you got that for free, no tuition, no bitcoin! --Tryptofish (talk) 23:51, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Ah ha! So basically, it's pretty much the same physics of thermal conductivity that we learned as dive instructors regarding body temp and water temp. Apparently, aluminum is an excellent conductor of heat with its free electrons moving around randomly throughout the plate distributing heat to different parts of the metal. It's pretty fascinating - wish I had paid closer attention in school. On the other hand, aluminum beer cans on ice absorb the cold, but because ice is a liquid that melts, the beer doesn't freeze and the more heat the ice is exposed to, the quicker it melts. That gave me a little brain freeze - kinda like scoffing down a frozen margarita but I get the drift. Thank you! ^{Atsme📞📧} 01:27, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Is it aluminum all the way through, or aluminum encasing something else? Being a conductor of heat isn't the same thing as being a "container" of heat. (The beer thing involves something else as well. Ice freezes at the freezing point of water, but beer is water plus alcohol plus carbon dioxide plus other stuff, and that mixture has a lower freezing point than pure water does. So at the temperature they equilibrate at, the ice stays mostly frozen, but the beer is not cold enough to freeze. You can think of the alcohol in beer as being like antifreeze in a car radiator.) --Tryptofish (talk) 01:37, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

The aluminum plate appears to be aluminum all the way - and it's 1/8" thick with end-to-end shallow grooving 1-1/4" apart, and two full length "legs" that keep it 5/8" above the bottom of a removable plastic tray. Oh, yes - it's easy to think of beer as antifreeze for the winter and as a coolant for the summer. And I learned the physics of cooling beer from home remedies like this one. The fast twirling in a bucket of ice works, too. 🍺 ^{Atsme📞📧} 01:56, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

I was going to suggest pretty much the same as Trypto (my Ph.D. was on thermoregulation in livestock, so I like to think I know a little about this) but I was amazed to see the claimed thawing times. Perhaps there was a bit of "advertising license" in these. A trick for rapid cooling of beer (learnt in Australia of course) is wrap the bottle/tin in a wet towel (to promote heat transfer) and put it in the freezer. But keep watch - if it freezes, it will blow the lid off the bottle. Happy thermodynamics! DrChrissy ^(talk) 14:29, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

And that's a true form of alcohol abuse - nothing worse than seeing beer slush all over the freezer. Not, of course, that I've ever done that. Nope, not me. No sir. Statements to the contrary are clearly base lies. Ravensfire (talk) 16:25, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) How long do the steaks take to defrost on a plate? I bet there isn't any difference. I suspect you've been had. -Roxy the dog™ woof 17:45, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

I bet it's exactly the same if it's an aluminum plate. Hey, DrChrissy, I'd like to see someone put live livestock on an aluminum platform, or in a dive suit. And I think the Aussies have it way over the British, who, I have heard, actually like warm beer. By the way, here in the colonies, I recently found (and I'm not making any of this up), a beer made by The Evil Genius Brewing Company that they call Purple Monkey Dishwasher Chocolate Peanut Butter Porter. It's a dark porter that actually tastes distinctly of peanuts. Definitely a strange experience. Cheers! --Tryptofish (talk) 18:57, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Recommended thawing instructions here. I can confirm that the aluminum platform accomplishes the thawing factor at least 10x faster than refrigerated defrosting, the latter of which means you have to plan meals ahead of time. I dislike thawing in water because even though you think you have a leak proof seal, that isn't always the case. Who wants water-logged meat, fish or other foods? In the first link above, it mentions a liquid inside the aluminum casing. Wonder what liquid they used? I just thawed an 8-pak of frozen beef franks on my little aluminum tray - took about 20 minutes to thaw. Of course, I didn't stand there watching the frozen hotdogs thaw, rather I did other things and when I remembered to check on them, I provided an approx. time, so no - it was not what one would consider precise scientific research with results that would pass peer review. More importantly, isn't the term frozen hotdog an oxymoron? ^{Atsme📞📧} 20:13, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that bit about the liquid which made me think this is not just simple heat transfer to the aluminium. DrChrissy ^(talk) 20:18, 6 June 2016 (UTC) surface.

I agree. There must be a liquid with a high heat capacity inside the aluminum. I propose that we get a patent for using beer as the liquid inside the aluminum, and we will all get rich (not). Myself, I always use refrigerator thawing. Of course, the inside of a refrigerator is going to be colder than the temperature of an aluminum-coated plate at room temperature – and the heat capacity of air, like the air inside the refrigerator, is much less than the heat capacity of the plate. Yay, science! Yay, beer! --Tryptofish (talk) 21:32, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

This is a physics issue. I doubt it has anything to do with the heat capacity of aluminium or some mysterious "bio-safe thermo liquid center", and everything to do with heat conductivity and ability to receive heat radiation. The aluminium is rapidly transferring heat to the frozen meat, and in turn receives heat by conduction of the surrounding air and though radiation from its surroundings. I suspect placing frozen meat on a stainless steel bench top would work nearly as well (though you would need to drain the liquid). --Epipelagic (talk) 22:17, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes, maybe that's it. Perhaps it's not heat capacity, but rather heat conductivity aiding equilibration with ambient air temperature. On the other hand, the two mechanisms are not mutually exclusive. If the aluminum is acting only as a conductor, it cannot attract more heat energy than what is locally present. Given the low heat capacity of air, I doubt that putting the frozen steak at room temperature (without the plate) and directing the air from a fan at it would work much better than leaving the steak out without the fan. In that sense, the heat capacity of the aluminum and whatever might be inside it actually contributes to the efficacy of any heat conductivity. (And yeah, who cares how "bio-safe" it is, when it is encased in aluminum!) Atsme, you are witnessing how scientists argue. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:38, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Tryp, I'm loving it and truly enjoy reading everyone's input. No pressure, interesting yet casual conversation among highly intelligent individuals - it's how I learn. ^{Atsme📞📧} 23:06, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

^{Something I ran across a bit ago Aluminum conducts heat more than 200 times as well as regular old dirt and about two-and-a-half times as well as iron. See more here. Atsme📞📧} 23:09, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

As a scientist, I am getting extremely frustrated at the meandering, pointless conversations of people who really are missing the point and main application of thermodynamics of heat transfer - just how do I get my beer (for me it is cider because I live in Somerset) down to a suitable drinking temperature as quickly as possible. DrChrissy ^(talk) 23:13, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

As a beer drinker, my quick answer is - buy it cold and keep it on ice. ^{Atsme📞📧} 23:15, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the scientific clarification. Big grin! ;-) DrChrissy ^(talk) 23:19, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Going back to Trypto's comment about peanut-tasting beer (sounds absolutely revolting to me!) did you guys ever get the colourless flavoured waters that were around a few years ago. These were bottles of what appeared to be water, but in fact had very distinctive tastes such as chocolate milk-shake. It was absolutely bizarre to experience the mis-match of the visual sense and the gustatory sense. Amazing the tricks the brain can play. DrChrissy ^(talk) 23:26, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Water with just a tiny bit of flavor in it? Here in the US, we call that Budweiser! --Tryptofish (talk) 00:34, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

^{Atsme📞📧 00:57, 7 June 2016 (UTC)}

OK, science fans, I did some investigation about whether it is heat capacity or heat conductivity, and the answer is: no! Strictly speaking, we are actually dealing with thermal diffusivity. (No, I do not understand that page.) I got that from: [2]. See also: [3] (also about aluminum in the kitchen!), and [4]. Our main page on this subject is thermal conduction, and the technically minded can wallow in Rayleigh number. Now, I need a drink. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:50, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Holy freeze-zones, Batman! Pyrolytic graphite with its thermal diffusivity of 1220 blows aluminum out of the water with its mere 84.18. It also appears to be used in biomedical applications so it's probably safe to put a steak on it. Let's get our new "P-graph thawing board" to market!! Tryp - you might consider making that drink celebratory! 🍾🍸 From little cow chips allota bullchip grows. Who has some bitcoins we can use to buy the material? ^{Atsme📞📧} 01:19, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Wow, it even levitates! That would be cool: turn a frozen steak into a flying object! But alas, our page about it also says that it is already being used as a heat sink. We'll have to challenge the patent – call the lawyers! Please note: that was NOT a WP:NLT violation. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:10, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

What the hell - offer 'em bitcoins for the modifications. ^{Atsme📞📧} 20:18, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Bitcoins. LOL --David Tornheim (talk) 22:20, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

You made a mistake asking for scientists, when you should have asked for engineers! Look at this table on heat transfer coefficients. I'm not reading all that above! The table shows the many ways you can get heat to flow. In your case into the meat. Boiling water is way up there on the list. My guess is whatever substance is in that thing is acting similar to water/fluid convection under the surface, but maybe it is acting like a metal and just using conduction_(heat). --David Tornheim (talk) 22:20, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

OMG. The article on conduction looks way too complex for lay people. I have seen this in the other articles, like on Schrödinger equation, Maxwell's_equations. Our audience is not engineers and people with Calculus background. Another day to worry about that... --David Tornheim (talk) 22:28, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

You have hit on a pet peeve. Many of our physics and math oriented articles are waaaaaay more technical and jargonish than they need to be. I'm probably a little more familiar with those fields than the average reader (computational fluid dynamics is my living), yet I find many of those articles nearly impenetrable. Many of these concepts are straightforward when suitably explained -- you'd never know that from reading our articles. That conduction_(heat) article is a prime example: heat conduction is just particles banging into each other, transferring their energy when they collide. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:34, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Boris, I agree with you very strongly. I'd love to see such pages written in general-reader English, as opposed to being written in mathematics. Readers should not have to have had two years of calculus to read Wikipedia articles. (Or one year, either.) --Tryptofish (talk) 18:58, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

I'm glad we found something that all three of us can agree on. If there is a place to propose doing something about it, like on a Wikiproject, please invite me.

I actually came back here to decide if I should buy my sciency father one of these. He loves "gadgets" like this--the more unusual the better. His favorite gift one year to other people including me was a induction hot plate, which "use magnetic coils to heat more quickly and efficiently than conventional electric hot plates by sending most of the heat to the pan, rather than to the cooking surface." Mine stayed in the box, as I saw no need for using up valuable counter-space when the stove or microwave could already get the job(s) done. --David Tornheim (talk) 09:52, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

But, but...Shock Brigade Harvester Boris...I just wanted to thaw out some steaks for dinner. I have no stake in the topic as a WP article - but I did have a steak on the thawing board. Will that suffice as a COI declaration? Anyway, while you're here - do you want in on our Pyrolytic graphite invention that levitates, and registers a thermal diffusivity of 1220? David Copperfield may end-up buying us all out. All it takes is a few hundred thousand bitcoins you might have laying around the shop next to your drill bits. ^{Atsme📞📧} 01:50, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

I would be willing to offer Bitcoins for development of the levitating thaw-board, but the stakes may be too high! SORRY! DrChrissy ^(talk) 16:31, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Not to mention the steaks! --Tryptofish (talk) 19:02, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

When you need an engineer instead

	"Everything I Know About Engineering" Award
	The highest honor bestowed upon editors who ask scientists a question that only engineers can answer. Choo-choo on that for a while. Atsme📞📧 13:38, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello

Hi Atsme, I saw your post on Anarchyte's talk page and just now discovered your amazing work on Wikipedia. Why have you not yet applied for the Rfa? Xender Lourdes (talk) 00:34, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words, Xender Lourdes. I actually self-reverted after I re-read A's user page and realized their userbox correctly displayed their time as an editor, which to me is pretty amazing considering all the accomplishments in such a short period of time. And thank you Xender for your contributions and the excellent work you've been doing. I actually have given some consideration to adminship but I'm not quite ready for it. I occasionally help at DRN when I can - not as much as I should - and from time to time I'll close at ANI, but at this point in time, I very much enjoy working with the Equine Project team, creating articles, reviewing GA/FA candidates, improving/expanding articles for GA/FA promotion as well as helping others prep theirs, and I also enjoy spending time on Commons, providing photographs that are needed for articles, and helping review FP candidates. It's "happy time" for me. Admins have a huge responsibility, and to do the job right requires a great deal of time, patience, and understanding. Perhaps after I achieve most of my goals as a content creator and GA/FA contributor, adminship may be something I'd consider. ^{Atsme📞📧} 04:26, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Understood :) It was good to have come across you. See you around. Xender Lourdes (talk) 10:16, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Ivan Rodriguez Gelfenstein for deletion

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style

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A barnstar for you!

	The Working Woman's Barnstar
	For your thankless efforts at the Faisalabad GA review, and, in general, for all your splendid contributions to Wikipedia. We are blessed to have someone like you here! Sainsf (talk · contribs) 07:45, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Sainsf. What a wonderful surprise, and an honor. ^{Atsme📞📧} 10:47, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Hall of Fame!

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Happy Fourth of July!

	Happy Fourth of July!
	Here's hoping you have a great Fourth of July! White Arabian Filly Neigh

I'm wearing ear plugs and body armor. Times have changed!! *lol* Thank you for the well-wishes, White Arabian Filly!!

Happy 4th

	Happy 4th!
	Hope your 4th is red white and blue! (With other colors too) Horsegeek(talk) 22:11, 3 July 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek

Thank you, Horsegeek - I'm enjoying the fireworks displays all around me while being thankful for the rains we just had, especially considering the expanse of my coastal hay fields - the same fields we haven't been able to cut because of all the rain. ^{Atsme📞📧} 02:50, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of John L. Furth for deletion

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Hi gorgeous. Kombucha is killing people again.

Hehe, just checked Wikipedia. Seems that old claim has found its way back into the intro, same source we spent months dealing with last year. What a silly, silly place this is. When no one is looking, the truth is yours to create, apparently. What fun!! Love you, petrarchan47คุก 19:49, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Hey there, Petrarchan47!!! Oh no, not the Kombucha fiasco - cra-cra stuff!! Are you back editing? I've been staying busy creating BLPs and by golly, they reproduce! Wish you'd join us in WikiProject: Women In Red. We need all the help we can get! ❤️ ^{Atsme📞📧} 02:46, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

AFD closing

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Please comment on Talk:Malia Bouattia

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Just in case...

I created User:Atsme/Furth. I'm starting to do this for AfDs that I think need to be salvaged, and so did this for yours. You can ASD it if you don't want it, but just an FYI that this is my newest approach when I am ready to rip my hair out. Montanabw^(talk) 06:20, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Professorships

Hi Atsme. I sense that I am not getting the message across clearly at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kanwal Ameen, so I thought I would try explaining my comments in more detail here. I hope that I do not come across as patronising, but I understand that some of these distinctions are rather arcane, particularly for people outside of academia (as I presume you are). So, there are different types of professor. Some academics get promoted over the course of their career from assistant professor to associate professor to full professor. Most universities have quite a lot of professors. They have titles such as Professor of Economics, Professor of Physics, etc. Those are not named or distinguished professorships. Named and distinguished professorships are awarded to a much smaller, more select group of academics. They carry more specific titles such as the Langdell Professorship of Law (at Harvard) or the Camden Professor of Ancient History (Oxford). Those named professorships can only be held by one person, so an academic can't be promoted to them as they can to a regular professorship. To become a named professor, one basically has to wait for an existing one to retire or, sometimes, to die! Does that make sense? Cordless Larry (talk) 19:09, 16 July 2016 (UTC)