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{{initiated|19:39, 18 November 2020 (UTC)}} Could an experienced editor please review and close? [[User:BC1278|BC1278]] ([[User talk:BC1278|talk]]) 19:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC) |
{{initiated|19:39, 18 November 2020 (UTC)|type=rfc}} Could an experienced editor please review and close? [[User:BC1278|BC1278]] ([[User talk:BC1278|talk]]) 19:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC) |
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==== [[Talk:Germans#Rfc for due weight regarding the ethnic vs. nationality meaning of "Germans"]] ==== |
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{{Initiated|00:26, 5 December 2020 (UTC)}} This Rfc ended a few days ago and followed lengthy discussions at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethnic groups]] and [[Talk:Germans]]. Because of the divisiveness of the issue and the polarized (and at times tense) nature of the discussion, the Rfc would probably be best closed by an administrator. --[[User:Tserton|Tserton]] ([[User talk:Tserton|talk]]) 03:41, 7 January 2021 (UTC) |
{{Initiated|00:26, 5 December 2020 (UTC)|type=rfc}} This Rfc ended a few days ago and followed lengthy discussions at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethnic groups]] and [[Talk:Germans]]. Because of the divisiveness of the issue and the polarized (and at times tense) nature of the discussion, the Rfc would probably be best closed by an administrator. --[[User:Tserton|Tserton]] ([[User talk:Tserton|talk]]) 03:41, 7 January 2021 (UTC) |
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====[[Talk:Atintanians#RfC regarding the lede]]==== |
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{{initiated|06:20, 8 December 2020 (UTC)}} Related to the one above, difficult close with high attendance and not much activity for the last week. — [[User:Bilorv|Bilorv]] ('''[[User talk:Bilorv|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]]''') 23:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC) |
{{initiated|06:20, 8 December 2020 (UTC)|type=rfc}} Related to the one above, difficult close with high attendance and not much activity for the last week. — [[User:Bilorv|Bilorv]] ('''[[User talk:Bilorv|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]]''') 23:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:This is the 2nd half the RfC above; there's just one RfC tag. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 08:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC) |
:This is the 2nd half the RfC above; there's just one RfC tag. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 08:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC) |
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::Given that I just closed the other RFC on deadnaming, I got very familar with the issues and had to come up with a method to deal with the giant yarn ball of opinions. I can probably do the same for this RFC; I will just need a day or two to recharge my personal and laptop batteries. -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 07:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC) |
::Given that I just closed the other RFC on deadnaming, I got very familar with the issues and had to come up with a method to deal with the giant yarn ball of opinions. I can probably do the same for this RFC; I will just need a day or two to recharge my personal and laptop batteries. -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 07:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC) |
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==== [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: What to do with category links to Commons?]] ==== |
==== [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: What to do with category links to Commons?]] ==== |
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{{Initiated|09:23, 12 December 2020 (UTC)}} Controversial topic, will need a proper closing when the time comes. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|talk]]) 16:42, 28 December 2020 (UTC) |
{{Initiated|09:23, 12 December 2020 (UTC)|type=rfc}} Controversial topic, will need a proper closing when the time comes. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|talk]]) 16:42, 28 December 2020 (UTC) |
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==== [[Talk:Newsmax#Proposed merge (Newsmax TV to Newsmax)]] ==== |
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{{initiated|19:07, 24 December 2020 (UTC)}} (larger thread ongoing since 1 December 2020, reopened after December 2019 – February 2020 discussion, itself continuation from February–May 2016. This RfC (which was broadly advertised to pretty much every potentially relevant talk page) was closed recently as [[WP:SNOW]]. The sole contrarian voice has insisted on reopening it, but does not seem to be presenting a new argument, just displeasure, so I think the close should be restored. (Indeed, that person's argument is basically to just refer to previous discussions where they made the same arguments before.) <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 19:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC) |
{{initiated|19:07, 24 December 2020 (UTC)|type=rfc}} (larger thread ongoing since 1 December 2020, reopened after December 2019 – February 2020 discussion, itself continuation from February–May 2016. This RfC (which was broadly advertised to pretty much every potentially relevant talk page) was closed recently as [[WP:SNOW]]. The sole contrarian voice has insisted on reopening it, but does not seem to be presenting a new argument, just displeasure, so I think the close should be restored. (Indeed, that person's argument is basically to just refer to previous discussions where they made the same arguments before.) <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 19:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC) |
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====[[Talk:Frédéric Chopin#RFC: Chopin and Sexuality]]==== |
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{{Initiated|05:34, 25 December 2020 (UTC)}} – Related discussions, most of them leading up to the RfC, mainly at [[Talk:Frédéric Chopin#Swiss-Radio-and-TV "outing" of Chopin]] (and some subsequent sections on that talk page); and at [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Archive 200#Frédéric Chopin]]. Uninvolved closure seems necessary. --[[User:Francis Schonken|Francis Schonken]] ([[User talk:Francis Schonken|talk]]) 10:30, 26 January 2021 (UTC) |
{{Initiated|05:34, 25 December 2020 (UTC)|type=rfc}} – Related discussions, most of them leading up to the RfC, mainly at [[Talk:Frédéric Chopin#Swiss-Radio-and-TV "outing" of Chopin]] (and some subsequent sections on that talk page); and at [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Archive 200#Frédéric Chopin]]. Uninvolved closure seems necessary. --[[User:Francis Schonken|Francis Schonken]] ([[User talk:Francis Schonken|talk]]) 10:30, 26 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:I suggest that [[User:Smerus]] initiates these actions, because the new article [[Sexuality of Chopin]] seriously compromises this particular RfC. Smerus has made the most edits to [[Frédéric Chopin]] and was responsible for bringing the article to [[WP:FA]] status. So far there seems to be consensus amongst [[User:Smerus]], [[User:Nihil novi]], [[User:Toccata quarta]], [[User:Kosboot]], [[User:JackofOz]], [[User:SPECIFICO]], [[User:Darwinek]], [[user:Piotrus]], [[user:Aza24]] and me. I suggest an experienced administrator. [[User:Mathsci|Mathsci]] ([[User talk:Mathsci|talk]]) 11:32, 26 January 2021 (UTC) |
:I suggest that [[User:Smerus]] initiates these actions, because the new article [[Sexuality of Chopin]] seriously compromises this particular RfC. Smerus has made the most edits to [[Frédéric Chopin]] and was responsible for bringing the article to [[WP:FA]] status. So far there seems to be consensus amongst [[User:Smerus]], [[User:Nihil novi]], [[User:Toccata quarta]], [[User:Kosboot]], [[User:JackofOz]], [[User:SPECIFICO]], [[User:Darwinek]], [[user:Piotrus]], [[user:Aza24]] and me. I suggest an experienced administrator. [[User:Mathsci|Mathsci]] ([[User talk:Mathsci|talk]]) 11:32, 26 January 2021 (UTC) |
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==== [[Talk:Donald Gary Young#RfC: does this lead reflect the body of the article?]] ==== |
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{{initiated|03:39, 28 December 2020 (UTC)}} No consensus reached, but some policy oversight needed. [[User:DolyaIskrina|DolyaIskrina]] ([[User talk:DolyaIskrina|talk]]) 18:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC) |
{{initiated|03:39, 28 December 2020 (UTC)|type=rfc}} No consensus reached, but some policy oversight needed. [[User:DolyaIskrina|DolyaIskrina]] ([[User talk:DolyaIskrina|talk]]) 18:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Note''': There is also an older RfC on the same talk page that is also ripe for closure, [[Talk:Donald Gary Young#RfC: worker killed by pressure device designed by Young]]. Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 19:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC) |
*'''Note''': There is also an older RfC on the same talk page that is also ripe for closure, [[Talk:Donald Gary Young#RfC: worker killed by pressure device designed by Young]]. Cheers! [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 19:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC) |
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==== [[Talk:2021_in_heavy_metal_music#RfC_about_Gemini_Syndrome]] ==== |
==== [[Talk:2021_in_heavy_metal_music#RfC_about_Gemini_Syndrome]] ==== |
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{{initiated|02:56, 30 December 2020 (UTC)}} Could an experienced editor please review [[Talk:2021_in_heavy_metal_music#RfC_about_Gemini_Syndrome|this discussion]]? --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 17:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
{{initiated|02:56, 30 December 2020 (UTC)|type=rfc}} Could an experienced editor please review [[Talk:2021_in_heavy_metal_music#RfC_about_Gemini_Syndrome|this discussion]]? --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 17:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
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==== [[Talk:Luke Letlow#RfC on infobox template]] ==== |
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{{Initiated|21:56, 30 December 2020 (UTC)}} Discussion has died down, but consensus is unclear. ― [[User:Tartan357|<span style="color:#990000">'''''Tartan357'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tartan357|<span style="color:#224434">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> 19:40, 30 January 2021 (UTC) |
{{Initiated|21:56, 30 December 2020 (UTC)|type=rfc}} Discussion has died down, but consensus is unclear. ― [[User:Tartan357|<span style="color:#990000">'''''Tartan357'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tartan357|<span style="color:#224434">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> 19:40, 30 January 2021 (UTC) |
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====[[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: The Needle Drop]]==== |
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{{initiated|00:05, 3 January 2021 (UTC)}} Difficult close, relatively evenly split on votes, slightly favouring inclusion, but there are other issues that need to be taken into account, like whether or not they are a reliable source. Close has been requested by another user. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 04:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
{{initiated|00:05, 3 January 2021 (UTC)|type=rfc}} Difficult close, relatively evenly split on votes, slightly favouring inclusion, but there are other issues that need to be taken into account, like whether or not they are a reliable source. Close has been requested by another user. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 04:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
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====[[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_324#RfC_-_The_Raw_Story]]==== |
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{{Initiated|17:47, 9 January 2021 (UTC)}} It had clear-cut responses, so I think it's not a hard one. It would nice if someone closed this.[[User:Magnus Dominus|Magnus Dominus]] ([[User talk:Magnus Dominus|talk]]) 14:48, 31 January 2021 (UTC) |
{{Initiated|17:47, 9 January 2021 (UTC)|type=rfc}} It had clear-cut responses, so I think it's not a hard one. It would nice if someone closed this.[[User:Magnus Dominus|Magnus Dominus]] ([[User talk:Magnus Dominus|talk]]) 14:48, 31 January 2021 (UTC) |
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====[[Talk:Brexit Party#RfC regarding article split]]==== |
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{{initiated|08:38, 10 January 2021 (UTC)}} Consensus appears to be leaning towards one article, but there is an added complication in whether the article itself should be renamed. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' 19:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC) |
{{initiated|08:38, 10 January 2021 (UTC)|type=rfc}} Consensus appears to be leaning towards one article, but there is an added complication in whether the article itself should be renamed. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' 19:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC) |
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====[[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#OpenCritic Percentage Recommended Score]]==== |
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{{Initiated|21:56, 16 January 2021 (UTC)}} Last !vote was 9 days ago. One side has a preponderance of !votes but consensus has been disputed so I've been advised to seek an uninvolved closer here. {{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|2147483647}} [[User:Generalrelative|Generalrelative]] ([[User talk:Generalrelative|talk]]) 23:30, 8 February 2021 (UTC) |
{{Initiated|21:56, 16 January 2021 (UTC)|type=rfc}} Last !vote was 9 days ago. One side has a preponderance of !votes but consensus has been disputed so I've been advised to seek an uninvolved closer here. {{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|2147483647}} [[User:Generalrelative|Generalrelative]] ([[User talk:Generalrelative|talk]]) 23:30, 8 February 2021 (UTC) |
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: I closed it. I am not uninvolved but I did close against my own position because of the clear consensus. I don't think anyone is really disputing the consensus at this point. [[User:LokiTheLiar|Loki]] ([[User talk:LokiTheLiar|talk]]) 16:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC) |
: I closed it. I am not uninvolved but I did close against my own position because of the clear consensus. I don't think anyone is really disputing the consensus at this point. [[User:LokiTheLiar|Loki]] ([[User talk:LokiTheLiar|talk]]) 16:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::I have reverted Loki's close, as s/he was the initiator of the RfC. Really we need a totally uninvolved editor, and perhaps wait the customary 30 days. [[WP:DEADLINE|No deadline]] and whatnot… — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 12:32, 10 February 2021 (UTC) |
::I have reverted Loki's close, as s/he was the initiator of the RfC. Really we need a totally uninvolved editor, and perhaps wait the customary 30 days. [[WP:DEADLINE|No deadline]] and whatnot… — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 12:32, 10 February 2021 (UTC) |
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==== [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Elections_and_Referendums#RfC_on_infoboxes_for_two-round_elections]] ==== |
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{{Initiated|23:07, 20 January 2021 (UTC)}} Discussion has died down for over a week and consensus is unclear. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Glide08|Glide08]] ([[User talk:Glide08#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Glide08|contribs]]) 18:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC)</span> |
{{Initiated|23:07, 20 January 2021 (UTC)|type=rfc}} Discussion has died down for over a week and consensus is unclear. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Glide08|Glide08]] ([[User talk:Glide08#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Glide08|contribs]]) 18:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC)</span> |
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(Initiated 1362 days ago on 4 December 2020) This would better be closed by an admin familiar with IRANPOL. The discussion has received feedback from multiple experienced admins/editors. Specially, there's a determining suggestion of 'source restriction' which needs to be considered as a part of the discussion. Regards. --Mhhossein talk 03:36, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- This is about a RfC, which received consensus in November 29, but Mhhossein keeps re-opening the conversation at AN even though it has been closed several times for lack of participation (and adding a code to it so that it won't be closed until 2030!)
- About source restriction, an editor suggested this was something that goes beyond this RFC:
"I had in mind a source restriction for the entire article at least, if not the entire topic area (WP:GS/IRANPOL), because I think that will help future content disputes as well as the present one (as Alex-h points out, a source restriction would affect much more content in the article than just what's at issue in this RFC; it could significantly change what we say about the topic in wikivoice)."
- Another editor opened a discussion on this at the article's talk page, with very little comments from everyone (including Mhhossein). Mhhossein does not seem to want to accept the consensus of this RfC even though almost all the participants in the RFC agreed the best thing to do was to significantly reduce the text of a section in the article. Also most editors and admins at AN endorsed the close. Idealigic (talk) 10:23, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Idealigic: Why are you bludgeoning the process again? Why are you saying these things here? --Mhhossein talk 12:45, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Mhhossein: I am not bludgeoning, I'm explaining that your comment about 'source restriction' was a suggestion by an editor who said this could be implemented by an admin to the entire People's Mujahedin of Iran article or IRANPOL areas, and not to one single sentence in a RFC (which would be a very biased way of editing the article, something also others said at AN). You forgot to explain that part. Idealigic (talk) 10:14, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- It's pure bludgeoning (probably you'll need to be taken to ANI for continued behavior of bludgeoning). By the way, Levivich showed how the YOU were failing to realize what 'source restriction' is. --Mhhossein talk 12:52, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Mhhossein: I am not bludgeoning, I'm explaining that your comment about 'source restriction' was a suggestion by an editor who said this could be implemented by an admin to the entire People's Mujahedin of Iran article or IRANPOL areas, and not to one single sentence in a RFC (which would be a very biased way of editing the article, something also others said at AN). You forgot to explain that part. Idealigic (talk) 10:14, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Idealigic: Why are you bludgeoning the process again? Why are you saying these things here? --Mhhossein talk 12:45, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
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(Initiated 1378 days ago on 18 November 2020) Could an experienced editor please review and close? BC1278 (talk) 19:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1361 days ago on 5 December 2020) This Rfc ended a few days ago and followed lengthy discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethnic groups and Talk:Germans. Because of the divisiveness of the issue and the polarized (and at times tense) nature of the discussion, the Rfc would probably be best closed by an administrator. --Tserton (talk) 03:41, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1359 days ago on 7 December 2020) Has been open since December 7 2020. Khirurg (talk) 04:47, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1358 days ago on 8 December 2020) Related to the one above, difficult close with high attendance and not much activity for the last week. — Bilorv (talk) 23:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- This is the 2nd half the RfC above; there's just one RfC tag. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 08:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Given that I just closed the other RFC on deadnaming, I got very familar with the issues and had to come up with a method to deal with the giant yarn ball of opinions. I can probably do the same for this RFC; I will just need a day or two to recharge my personal and laptop batteries. -- Beland (talk) 07:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1354 days ago on 12 December 2020) Controversial topic, will need a proper closing when the time comes. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:42, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
(Initiated 1353 days ago on 13 December 2020) RFC proposing merger of Newsmax TV to Newsmax due to redundancy. IHateAccounts (talk) 01:36, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1342 days ago on 24 December 2020) (larger thread ongoing since 1 December 2020, reopened after December 2019 – February 2020 discussion, itself continuation from February–May 2016. This RfC (which was broadly advertised to pretty much every potentially relevant talk page) was closed recently as WP:SNOW. The sole contrarian voice has insisted on reopening it, but does not seem to be presenting a new argument, just displeasure, so I think the close should be restored. (Indeed, that person's argument is basically to just refer to previous discussions where they made the same arguments before.) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 19:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1341 days ago on 25 December 2020) – Related discussions, most of them leading up to the RfC, mainly at Talk:Frédéric Chopin#Swiss-Radio-and-TV "outing" of Chopin (and some subsequent sections on that talk page); and at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Archive 200#Frédéric Chopin. Uninvolved closure seems necessary. --Francis Schonken (talk) 10:30, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- I suggest that User:Smerus initiates these actions, because the new article Sexuality of Chopin seriously compromises this particular RfC. Smerus has made the most edits to Frédéric Chopin and was responsible for bringing the article to WP:FA status. So far there seems to be consensus amongst User:Smerus, User:Nihil novi, User:Toccata quarta, User:Kosboot, User:JackofOz, User:SPECIFICO, User:Darwinek, user:Piotrus, user:Aza24 and me. I suggest an experienced administrator. Mathsci (talk) 11:32, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- I am not sure that I should initiate anything in this matter, given the apparent hostility towards me of some of the editors contributing to the discussion. Isn't this a matter for the consideration of @Robert McClenon: who is i/c the RfC? I agree that the involvement of a senior administrator would be helpful.--Smerus (talk) 13:19, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Francis Schonken, Mathsci, and Smerus: - Well, first, I am hardly in charge of the RFC, as if anyone was in charge of it. I was merely trying to find a way to spread the unhappiness evenly. My own opinion is:
- The discussion of this topic should be moved to the main section of WP:AN.
- The creation of the sub-article Sexuality of Chopin was an end run around the RFC, and I would rather see an end run in American football than in Wikipedia.
- However, now that the sub-article has been created, either the sub-article should be deleted or merged into the main article, or any issues should be addressed in the sub-article.
- The RFC is moot if the sub-article is kept.
- If the sub-article is merged or deleted, an administrator should close the RFC.
Robert McClenon (talk) 16:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Re. suggestion to move to AN: disagree – the RfC can be closed without splitting the same discussion over multiple pages.
- Re. end run: the existence or non-existence of a sub-article is unrelated to the RfC.
- Re. "either the sub-article should be deleted or merged into the main article, or any issues should be addressed in the sub-article" – no, the RfC decides on what goes in the main article, irrespective of the existence of a sub-article.
- Re. RfC becoming moot after creation of sub-article: no, that suggestion makes no sense.
- Re. conditions on close of the RfC: no, again, the suggestion of such conditions makes no sense.
- --Francis Schonken (talk) 16:26, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Re: end run, yes, the POV fork is an end run around the RfC. The RfC was always intended to be about how the matter is covered in Wikipedia; claiming it only applies to material under a specific title is WP:WIKILAWYERing. IMO an admin should G6 delete the fork or protect it as a redirect as a violation of dispute resolution procedures. Crossroads -talk- 06:28, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- I support the opinion of Crossroads in this matter.--Smerus (talk) 09:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Re: end run, yes, the POV fork is an end run around the RfC. The RfC was always intended to be about how the matter is covered in Wikipedia; claiming it only applies to material under a specific title is WP:WIKILAWYERing. IMO an admin should G6 delete the fork or protect it as a redirect as a violation of dispute resolution procedures. Crossroads -talk- 06:28, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- The irritating thing about modifying RfCs after creation is that it makes it difficult to see how much support there is for a certain option, because most don't revisit a discussion. A "remove entirely" option should've been part of the original RfC. At least one editor who voted for an option to retain the content originally changed their vote to the option F afterwards. After F was added, there was a notable % of support for that option. It's thus harder to determine, purely from the survey, a consensus on whether the content should be in the article imo. Possibly a more dedicated closer will be willing to read through all the threaded discussion and parse intentions. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:06, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - I have tagged the redirect as a Redirect for Discussion and am recommending that it be fully protected. However, if the community thinks, in the RFD discussion, that the sub-article should exist, that is a valid result of the RFD also. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:58, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
I have adopted the suggestion of Robert McClenon and raised the closure of the RfC at Administrators' notice board.--Smerus (talk) 18:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1338 days ago on 28 December 2020) No consensus reached, but some policy oversight needed. DolyaIskrina (talk) 18:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: There is also an older RfC on the same talk page that is also ripe for closure, Talk:Donald Gary Young#RfC: worker killed by pressure device designed by Young. Cheers! BD2412 T 19:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1336 days ago on 30 December 2020) Could an experienced editor please review this discussion? --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1336 days ago on 30 December 2020) Discussion has died down, but consensus is unclear. ― Tartan357 Talk 19:40, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1332 days ago on 3 January 2021) Difficult close, relatively evenly split on votes, slightly favouring inclusion, but there are other issues that need to be taken into account, like whether or not they are a reliable source. Close has been requested by another user. Hemiauchenia (talk) 04:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1326 days ago on 9 January 2021) It had clear-cut responses, so I think it's not a hard one. It would nice if someone closed this.Magnus Dominus (talk) 14:48, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1325 days ago on 10 January 2021) Consensus appears to be leaning towards one article, but there is an added complication in whether the article itself should be renamed. — Czello 19:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1320 days ago on 15 January 2021) Requesting closure on the discussion to add OpenCritic Percentage Recommended Score to Video Game Manual of Style on Reception sections. Axem Titanium (talk) 06:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1319 days ago on 16 January 2021) Last !vote was 9 days ago. One side has a preponderance of !votes but consensus has been disputed so I've been advised to seek an uninvolved closer here. Generalrelative (talk) 23:30, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- I closed it. I am not uninvolved but I did close against my own position because of the clear consensus. I don't think anyone is really disputing the consensus at this point. Loki (talk) 16:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- I have reverted Loki's close, as s/he was the initiator of the RfC. Really we need a totally uninvolved editor, and perhaps wait the customary 30 days. No deadline and whatnot… — JFG talk 12:32, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1315 days ago on 20 January 2021) Discussion has died down for over a week and consensus is unclear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glide08 (talk • contribs) 18:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Place new discussions concerning RfCs above this line using a level 4 heading
Deletion discussions
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Place new discussions concerning XfDs above this line using a level 4 heading
Other types of closing requests
(Initiated 1421 days ago on 6 October 2020) Would an experienced editor please assess the consensus at this usability-related discussion? {{u|Sdkb}} talk 08:51, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
(Initiated 1399 days ago on 28 October 2020) JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 18:45, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1396 days ago on 31 October 2020) This one has been lingering for awhile. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1381 days ago on 15 November 2020) – ask that this be closed as soon as possible. P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 16:09, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
(Initiated 1347 days ago on 19 December 2020) Need an uninvolved editor to close the merge discussion of a listed company that have high overlap with its parent company. Matthew hk (talk) 19:15, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Done @Matthew hk:, you are free to implement. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 19:58, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1342 days ago on 24 December 2020) Need an uninvolved editor to determine the consensus of this thread, which apparently flooded by ip due to suspected off-site canvassing. Matthew hk (talk) 20:05, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Comment: First of all the article was turned into a redirect with no discussion, so the default position or most recent stable version would be the article itself rather than the redirect. Secondly Matthew hk struck out many remarks without submitting any evidence that there was off-site canvassing, nor was the SPIs he submitted conclusive ones. The talk page was also locked without any request formally submitted, btw. Please note. Thanks. 1.64.46.31 (talk) 08:56, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- For admin and other closer. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Please instruct how to deal with ip hopping, meat and suspected offsite canvassing from a lot of ip ranges from HK. Matthew hk (talk) 10:41, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1341 days ago on 25 December 2020) Need an uninvolved editor or admin to close this RfC. Discussion is about whether or not to emphasize throughout the article that there isn't a consensus on whether the Chetniks engaged in genocide. --Griboski (talk) 19:01, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1339 days ago on 27 December 2020) Could an experienced editor please review this discussion? --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1338 days ago on 28 December 2020) Could an experienced editor please review this discussion? --Jax 0677 (talk) 02:24, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Appears to be POV pushing on these RfCs (multiple RfCs running at the same time, meandering proposals in the RfCs, etc). It would be helpful for more uninvolved editors to have a look. Quite a political topic that both pro-china and pro-hong kong editors I would guess are involved in. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 14:09, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- I don't even saw any rfc tag..... Matthew hk (talk) 19:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- That's probably why it's under "Other types of closing requests" and not under "Requests for comment". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:49, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- If it not a Rfc. Don't claim it as one. Since it did not even tagged as a Rfc, then people running a lot of Rfc to running out the commenting quota from those editors with RfC quota, does not affect this thread : Talk:2019–20 Hong Kong protests#End date . Matthew hk (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Reply - @Matthew hk:, thank you! --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- If it not a Rfc. Don't claim it as one. Since it did not even tagged as a Rfc, then people running a lot of Rfc to running out the commenting quota from those editors with RfC quota, does not affect this thread : Talk:2019–20 Hong Kong protests#End date . Matthew hk (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- That's probably why it's under "Other types of closing requests" and not under "Requests for comment". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:49, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- I don't even saw any rfc tag..... Matthew hk (talk) 19:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1337 days ago on 29 December 2020) Could an uninvolved experienced editor close this? Thanks. Regards Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 14:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1336 days ago on 30 December 2020) The last post in this merge discussion was a while back, so could someone take a look at it with a view to closing? Cordless Larry (talk) 12:41, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1326 days ago on 9 January 2021). This is about whether to include an antisemitism themed sidebar in the Parler app article. - Daveout
(talk) 18:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
(Initiated 1314 days ago on 21 January 2021) Discussion has been quite lengthy and many proposals have been put forward, making consensus difficult to determine. A formal closure by an uninvolved user is necessary. Thanks. Mgasparin (talk) 16:59, 10 February 2021 (UTC)