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General discussion

ITN

¡Lugo!

Shouldn't ITN have been updated by now. Even the most fanatic Biden supporters might be bored by the same picture, day after day. ;D --Hapsala (talk) 21:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

To suggest a new picture for ITN, please go to WP:ITN/C. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 22:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Too bad Obama didn't choose Fernando Lugo to be his veep. We haven't seem enough of him lately. :) Lovelac7 02:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I CAN HAZ TEH NEUZ STORIES?

Clearly there has never been a better time to put MAOR KATZ on the main page. ITN could use some cat related news. Ceiling Cat (talk) 04:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, stopgap image of Medvedev is up now. If someone wants to crop a map or something, feel free.-Wafulz (talk) 13:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Katz in china have started sprouting wings. Clearly this event is worth an entry in ITN. Otherwise, it's yet more evidence of Wikipedia's blatant anti-kat bias. Ceiling Cat (talk) 04:14, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

To suggest a new item for ITN, please go to WP:ITN/C. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 20:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

See Winged cat. Anyway, ITN stories need links to the specific event, and that event in China clearly isn't notable enough. --haha169 (talk) 23:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I realize that in the U.S., McCain picking his VP choice is a big deal, but I think the only way this could be seen as important enough to be on the main page is if some mention is made of her (Palin) being only the second woman VP nom after Geraldine Ferraro. Anakinjmt (talk) 17:14, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

The U.S. is a huge country with international influence. Many internet and Wikipedia users are American. VP nominations are some of the biggest single pieces of news durring an election cycle. As the US is going through a major election cycle, I'd say VP nominations are considered news even on an international site like Wikipedia. Sure, it would be interesting if it mentioned that she was only the second after Ferraro, but the story doesn't need to have that to be considered newsworthy. In my opinion, anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.34.82.144 (talk) 01:03, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

To discuss what news items to include on ITN, pls go to WP:ITN/C. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 03:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

To repeat yourself in a condescending way, please go to Talk:Main Page, err, oh wait, nevermind, you already found it. --208.82.225.232 (talk) 11:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

don bradman

nice touch having Don Bradman as the featured article on the 100th anniversary of his birth! cheers 116.240.254.95 (talk) 01:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

see, it's not just thrown together. well, not all of it. 86.44.27.219 (talk) 07:56, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

It's a shame the blurb doesn't mention his birth date, just the year. --Dweller (talk) 14:24, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Too bad the article had the wrong title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.192.244 (talk) 09:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

What, "Donald Bradman"? --Dweller (talk) 10:05, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Bush Cricket

This link goes to an article on the outdoors, is that right? I had presumed 'bush cricket' was similar to 'bush league' in the USA, referring to minor league baseball, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.203.58.1 (talk) 20:22, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

You can ask about this at Talk:Donald Bradman. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 21:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

e/c Bush cricket redirects to Tettigoniidae. And looking at the Bush disambiguation page doesn't have anything, and apparently the term isn't used much on Wikipedia.Spencer^T♦C 21:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not an Aussie and it's not cricket jargon, but I had no problems comprehending it as being cricket played in the Australian Outback. Is it really impenetrable? --Dweller (talk) 10:04, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

With split time in US and UK, I didn't really know what it was. I had feeling, though. Spencer^T♦C 19:19, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia languages links

Not sure if this was already noted somewhere, but it seems to me that the ja and zh links in "Wikipedia languages" on the main page are not rendering (like they were previously), but rather displaying as [[ja:|日本語]] and [[zh:|中文]] respectively. AUG (Talk) 15:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I think it's {{lang|ja|日本語}} and {{lang|zh|中文}} that are on Template:Wikipedialang. Removing Template:Lang may help. -- [[ axg ⁞⁞ talk ]] 15:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I think it's caused by a recent edit in Template:Lang. -- Prince Kassad (talk) 16:04, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Seems like it's fixed now. AUG (Talk) 23:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured Article Pic/Pick

Hey All,

I don't know if this has been discussed before (probably has), but I think any TFA should have a picture included. Seriously, the page looks awful when the TFA blurb has no pic. It breaks up the symmetry on the page (ITN, OTD, and DYK all have pics) and just looks off because most days there is a picture. Justice America/(5:15) 18:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Any image appearing on Main Page must be free-to-use, apparently, so TFA has to be imageless if there isn't a free image available. 168.9.120.8 (talk) 19:17, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I know, but why pick an article without a pic? Justice America/(5:15) 19:42, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I think all FA's deserve to be showcased on the Main Page. Obviously, an editor's put enough work into it that it shouldn't be stopped by lack of free image. Spencer^T♦C 19:48, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Free images are not evenly distributed so doing this would reduce the variety in Main Page featured articles, which I think is probably a worthy goal. --Cherry blossom tree 20:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Enlighten me though, what's the difference between having a non-free image on a regular article and having one on the front page? Why? --Kaizer13 (talk) 21:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

The fair use cases for images in articles tend to be stronger (but in many cases still pretty poor). Due to the way the main page is presented comeing up with a solid fair use case would be difficult in the vast majority of cases.Geni 17:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

The claims that main page images must be 'free' are completely false. Jimbo once implied that he felt this way in a single edit. That is not sufficient grounds for policy (see WP:AAJ). However, the fair use approval page de-listed the main page during a rephrasing about a year back, and all efforts to reinsert it have been overwhelmed by the copyright brigade. Read into that what you will. For the record, I completely agree with using fair use images on the main page. Modest Genius ^talk 23:56, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

According to current policy, all main page images must be free. However we got there, it's current policy and there has never been consensus to change with valid arguments on both sides. The idea that this is simply AAJ is ludicrious. Jimbo has tried to make a number of policies which have failed, clearly people are capable of thinking for themselves and the reason why we are here now is because after this independent thought, people agree with him. No wonder this argument gets no where when those opposing current policy show such disrespect for other editors (by calling them names and claiming they can't think for themselves or don't have valid reasons for wanting fair use images to be excluded from the main page). While I'm not claiming the so called 'copyright brigade' is perfect, by and far, those who do the most name calling and refuse to accept the other parties have valid arguments appears to be those supporting fair use images on the main page Nil Einne (talk) 04:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

BTW the term is "non-free", not "fair use"; whatever may or may not be permissible as fair use under US copyright law is immaterial; the non-free content policy is line with the Foundation's goals. howcheng {chat} 05:14, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Which is the opposite of a euphemism (does a word for such things exist?) Modest Genius ^talk 15:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Found it myself, the term is dysphemism Modest Genius ^talk 15:54, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Those of us who support fair use on the Main Page, such as myself, don't appreciate being generalized any more than you do. If you have a problem with what Modest Genius said, then fine, but it is no more okay for you to belittle eveyone that opposes you than it is for him to do so. Dragons flight (talk) 14:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

<shrug> I didn't intend to belittle anyone. It's just that it was quicker to type 'copyright brigade' than 'a number of users who favour a particularly restrictive copyright policy, including opposition to fair use of copyrighted images'. As for the AAJ, I suggest you read Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content_criteria_exemptions. Modest Genius ^talk 15:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Palin's picture

Aren't there any free pictures of Palin that are more professional? God knows I don't believe politicians should be revered, but it seems odd to accompany what may be the most significant moment of her career with a picture of her in a tracksuit.

I thought all US politicians at some point got a picture taken by a government photographer of them in a suit in front of the US seal or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.168.106.239 (talk) 11:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

No, that's for the federal governments. The public domain rule doesn't apply for state or local politicians. Spencer^T♦C 13:30, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

If you prefer File:Palinphotocropped.jpg, pls say so at WP:ITN/C. --74.13.125.182 (talk) 14:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Frankly, she calls herself a typical hockey mom from Alaska, so the tracksuit suits her. :) --74.14.20.209 (talk) 14:28, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I realize we like head-on photos, but the one used in her infobox - Image:Palin1.JPG would be a better image, imo. --Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 20:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

It was what was originally used but was changed for the reason you outlined [1] Nil Einne (talk) 23:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)