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February 16

Recreating a previously deleted article

Hello. I logged in to create what I thought would be a new article for the Benmore Peak Observatory only to discover that there have been at least three previous articles and they've all been deleted. I don't understand why, even after reading what I could of the related debate. The Benmore Peak Observatory is one of the more important astronomical facilities in New Zealand. Should I even attempt to recreate the article? BigFatJAFA (talk) 06:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

WW II vets? .. suddenly I feel young again! ;) — Ched (talk) 06:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

blame it on the bifocals. (see below) — Ched (talk) 06:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Probably the 2 biggest reasons I see articles deleted (other than blantant spam and self-promotion) are:

• WP:COI - which is to say that a person who works for a company/place/thing writes an article. Since that person has a vested interest in the article they are writing about - it's difficult to keep an objective, dispassionate, and neutral tone in the writing = article is deleted.
• WP:ADVERT - meaning that the article was written as an advertisement (such as a travel brochure).

In this case, I've found Benmore Peak. Perhaps that would be an article which you could edit with the information you wanted to add. Keep in mind to keep the information written in a neutral tone, and make sure it is notable. Good luck ;) — Ched (talk) 07:01, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Oldest/youngest

1. Who is the oldest person to have made an edit to Wikipedia?

2. Who is the youngest person to have made an edit to Wikipedia? JCI (talk) 00:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Obviously with IPs, it's impossible to know. Grsz¹¹ 00:42, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

There is probably no way to tell. Wikipedia does not collect personal information; some editors may provide it on their user page. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 00:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not even seeing an easy way to examine Wikipedia users' self-reported ages. See for example Category:Wikipedians which lists a number of self-reported user characteristics, but age does not seem to be among them. Also see Wikipedia:User categories. --Teratornis (talk) 00:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I have seen good-faith IP edits from very young editors, probably six years old or younger. for vandalism, it's hard to judge the chronological age. I have seen useful edits from editors who appear to be about nine years old, and we have had multiple highly productive editors who self-report as twelve years old. At the high end, we have editors who self-report as WWII veterans. -Arch dude (talk) 03:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

WW II vets? .. suddenly I feel young again! ;) — Ched (talk) 06:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC) (at least until I screwed up the posting - see above) — Ched (talk) 06:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Some users post personal information on their userpage; some use template {{Infobox user}}. There are userboxes that identify as teens, students, veterans and many other categories. If you are really interested, I an 50. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 11:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

One Wikipedian from Singapore reported to have been 91, and may currently be 96, although he was previously listed on WP: Deceased Wikipedians. I've seen plenty of young Wikipedians as well. One constructive registered user was 9 years old upon registration, another Wikipedian became an administrator at age 11 and a bureaucrat at age 13, and yet another Wikipedian became an admin at age 13, and I've seen at least two or three Wikipedians who were 12 about one or two years ago, and if you must know, I'm among the younger contributors here. ~AH1^(TCU) 17:13, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Project Page for Educational Project?

I am beginning an educational/college project (which I will list on the School/University list tomorrow), but I can't figure out how to create a "project page"?

Like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NRG

Thanks.

AEG English4994 (talk) 01:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)AEG English4994

You may want to read Wikipedia:School and university projects, which has some models to follow. If you see a good project with its own page, create your own page and use that one as a template. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 02:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. I know that. I just literally don't know how/where to create a "Project Page" even though I see that there is a template for the format. Is the "Project Page" creatable when I list it in the School/University list? Is it a page created from my Userpage? I think this question has an obvious answer, but I can't figure it out. Thanks.

AEG English4994 (talk) 02:32, 16 February 2009 (UTC)AEG English4994

Since you mention the School/University project list, I assume that you ate aware of the various problems we have had with school projects and that you intend to avoid them. If not or if you need help, please come back here: we want you to succeed. The example page, Wikipedia:WikiProject North of the Rio Grande, is in the "Wikipedia" namespace rather than the "mainspace." The only difference for editing is that the name of the page starts with "Wikipedia:" (Note the colon, it's important.) To start your page, create a redlink to it on you user page: [[Wikipedia:your project]]. Click on the redlink to get teh edit page, and start editing. -Arch dude (talk) 03:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks much. That is very helpful. I knew project page creation would be more than obvious once I could see how it would be like any other page creation. I have been reading A LOT on the School/University project pages for a couple of months (and reading other articles, listening to podcasts on teaching via Wikipedia, etc.), including all the prof reflection on the North of the Rio Grande project. But this is my first attempt at a class project, so I'd be happy to hear any warnings you'd like to point out to me here as I'm beginning to work with my students. Thanks, and thanks in advance for the offer of help and your best wishes for my/my students' success. AEG English4994 (talk) 03:50, 16 February 2009 (UTC)AEG English4994

You may already be past the material I put on User:Teratornis/Tips for teachers but it can't hurt to look. --Teratornis (talk) 04:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the material/Tips for Teachers. I appreciate all help as I start the project. AEG English4994 (talk) 12:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)AEG English4994

Thanks so much for the help, everyone. I'll have to do more work on the page tonight and tomorrow, but it's created and I couldn't have done it without your help! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:English4994_The_World_Split_Open_-_Contemporary_Women_Essayists AEG English4994 (talk) 19:46, 16 February 2009 (UTC)AEG English4994

Help me

Hi,

I am trying to edit the Bedford Group page and in the text box, I want Max Dyason to sit beneath Colin Dunsford but when I move it, it's not sitting where I want it to.

I also want to add some dot points, but there is no option for me to do this. How do I insert dot points into the main body of the text?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.101.29.98 (talk) 02:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

To add the dot point format you place *'s at the start of the line, see below for example.

Main text

• Dot point one
• Dot point two
  • Dot point relating to dot point two
  • Dot point relating to dot point two
• Dot point three

Main text resumes

I Grave Rob (talk) 02:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

• Max Dyason is now sitting under Colin Dunsford. If it is still not working for you then there may be problems with your browser. :) I Grave Rob (talk) 02:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Warnings

Resolved

 – ukexpat (talk) 03:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Is there a feature to enable a user to receive warnings when something happens as I wish to receive warnings when I forget to fill in the edit box, I apologise prematurely if this is something widely known as I am not a longtime user of wikipedia. I Grave Rob (talk) 02:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

If you mean the edit summary box, it's in the editing section of Special:Preferences. Algebraist 02:14, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I had looked there but was baffled that it was so short, after looking again after reading your comment I looked again and realised I hadn't seen the extra tabs due to scrolling down straight away. I Grave Rob (talk) 02:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Repeat Offender - Can Anyone Help??

Resolved

 – Speaker1994 blocked indefinitely. Xenon54 (talk) 02:42, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

The user "Speaker1994" has a long history of adding offensive remarks, locking, rewriting or just blanking articles. Including Talk pages. I've read through his list of contributions, and want to point this person out to whoever might be able to help. He/She is not a random IP address (like I imagine mine will be, sorry). He/She is a registered user. Someone, PLEASE check into their contributions for yourselves, and see if this doesn't constitute SOME kind of action? Wikipedia isn't about the freedom to express being a jackass and it's impeding the flow of information for those of us who actually read these articles. I apologize if this is not the proper forum. Thank you. (contribution URL is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Speaker1994 ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.97.154.132 (talk) 02:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I've reported them to Administrator intervention against vandalism as an evident vandalism-only account. Thank you for bringing this user to our attention. It's surprising that they haven't been reported already. In the future, if you come across another user with similar behaivour, you can report them yourself. Xenon54 (talk) 02:40, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

And as soon as I filled Twinkle's report form, the user was indefinitely blocked. Xenon54 (talk) 02:42, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

:

When I used the search box to search for : thinking that it would automatically redirect me to comma I saw that it wasn't linked. I found the link to create it as a new page and clicked it, after waiting I was shocked to find myself redirected to the Wikipedia main page, I went back and searched for : again and hovered my mouse over the link and it was trying to link me back to the main page.

There are many links that contain : in them so why can't this one be made? I tried to substitute : into another pages create link but it kept coming back with a bad title.

Does anybody know how to fix this? I Grave Rob (talk) 02:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

We have a Colon (punctuation) article if that's what you are looking for. You probably cannot use the colon by itself as an article title, because the colon has syntactic meaning to the MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia. It is the delimiter which separates the namespace prefix from a page title. This is not apparent with articles because articles are in a special "main" namespace which has no visible prefix and thus no colon delimiter. Don't expect this to make sense before you have read all the pages I linked to, several times probably. Wikipedia is very complicated. --Teratornis (talk) 04:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Article titles cannot begin with a ':'. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)#Colon. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, but we do have a redirect with the title ":". I'm having trouble believing my eyes. --Teratornis (talk) 04:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

The title of that redirect is '：' and not ':'. The former is a special character and not a normal colon like the latter. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

There are more colon-like redirects at [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

As for what a delimiter is: it's like when we read we need spaces between the words to be able to tell them apart (for a computer, it need not be a space, it can be a character like the colon). A title of : is like, to the MediaWiki software, seeing a document that's all space and no words. No wonder it doesn't make any sense! ~user:orngjce223 how am I typing? 20:35, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

How to measure a distance of a light year?

How do you measure a distance of a light year, i.e. how is it determined the a distance is a light, or two light years or 5 billion light years?

§ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlebuddy1 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article Astronomical distance. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Algebraist 03:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Changing Username

How do I change my user name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.3.93 (talk) 03:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

If you have not made very many edits, the best way is usually to register a new account. If you would like to retain credit for the edits you've made, see this page to request a username change. TNXMan 04:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Adrienne Bailon

• I asked a question about Adrienne Bailon photo in her talk page,but the a user keep revertin my comments and sayin that my question is unneeded and a distraction , without answer my questin what shall i Do ?--Prof.Sherif (talk) 06:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
• If I understand that last message you posted correctly, you named everyone on the picture except the girl on the left (which the article claims is Bailon. That girl is not African American, the lighting may be playing tricks on you. If you believe the picture to be inadequate, try to get someone to release a better picture under a free license. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Undoing link removal to my 4shared page:- "Spam blacklist" ?

Greetings,

I have a 4shared filesharing webpage which contains a public lecture audio-recording from 1976. The speech is not copyright.

The lecturer -during his speech- turns on a cassette player, which contained an excerpt of a speech by Robert Thieme. (The Robert Thieme Wikipedia page is where my link is/was)

Today, in the Revision history of Robert Thieme, I came across the following:-

12:57, 2 February 2009 Kanonkas (Talk | contribs) m (21,956 bytes) (Removing external link: 4shared per spam blacklist)

I do not understand why my 4shared page has been marked as "spam blacklist", and cannot find anything through Wikipedia describing this blacklist.

The link had been up on the Robert Thieme page for some time.

I would like to "undo" this link deletion, if permissable.

Note: I did see this post in the questions section on Feb. 12th:-

Title "Legitimate website blocked by Wikipedia's spam blocker"

"Only code that actually produces a link triggers the blacklist. If you leave out the http://, you're fine. Algebraist 01:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)"

Q. Could I "undo" the change, if I leave out the "http://" ?

or can I just "undo" ?

Please help me understand why my 4shared page has been noted as spam, and if I can "undo" the link deletion.

Thankyou. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryangiggs11 (talk • contribs) 06:20, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposed removals from the blacklist can be made at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed removals. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 06:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

In answer to your specific questions, you can’t undo the edit because nobody can save a link to a blacklisted site. Typically the reason sites are blacklisted is that users have added spam links to the site (not necessarily your page). Only an admin can remove a site from the blacklist. —teb728 t c 07:46, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

It is possible for an admin to "whitelist" a page within a site that is otherwise "blacklisted." However, It's a hassle all around, and we cannot trust 4shared (or any web site) to remain stable forever. If you can document the fact that the recording is not copyrighted and the original Robert Thieme recording is not copyrighted, then you can add the recording at Wikisource instead. This is usually a better idea, since Wikisource is likely to remain stable and valid as long as Wikipedia does. How do you know that these recordings are not in copyright? - Arch dude (talk) 10:21, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Arch dude explained this pretty well. I'd like to remind you to please see this. Also, please don't try to evade the spam blacklist. You can propose a whitelist by following the instructions at the spam-whitelist. --Kanonkas :  Talk  10:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Administrator help required to rename a page

Hello, I see if a building has a specific name(such as Aiwan-e-Sadr or Rashtrapati Bhavan) then the article is created under that title instead of a generic name. So I request an administrator to rename Accra Presidential Palace to Golden Jubilee House if they deem it appropriate.Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magic.Wiki (talk • contribs) 08:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

• There you go. By the way, every autoconfirmed user can move a page. You don't need an admin for that. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
• Here are the details: Help:Moving a page. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 08:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

ACC

Resolved

Hey folks, how ya doin? .. anyway, I recently got approved for account creation - when I go here and try to login, I get the following message:

• I'm sorry, but, your account has not been approved by a site administrator yet. Please stand by.
• Account Creation Assistance Manager by The ACC dev team. Bugs?
• Designed by Charlie Melbye

I've read through Wikipedia:Request an account/Guide, and I don't understand what I'm missing. I did attempt to create the account, with a different password than my en-wikipedia.org password (I saw on one of my pages) - and yet I don't seem to be able to access this area. I've tried logging in with both passwords too. What am I missing here? — Ched (talk) 09:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

• A toolserver account requires verification from a real human before it works. I'm assuming no one got arround to handling yours yet. When did you request it? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:12, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
  • couple days ago - I'll wait a bit and see if it changes. Thanks for the input =) — Ched (talk) 12:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Ahh... I see Rjd0060 dropped me a note on everything getting through the proper proceedures, so I'll tag it as such, and say thank you very much to RJD, MGM, and Peter - I appreciate your help, and trust greatly. Have a great day folks. — Ched (talk) 19:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Request For A Particular Article entitled The Tide Of Life: A Summary

Where do I can request for a particular article. I am looking for a summary of the novel entitled The Tide Of Life. I hope you can help me on this thing. Thank you and more power! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous122893 (talk • contribs) 09:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Try WP:RA. Good luck! Zain Ebrahim (talk) 09:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

If you just need a plot summary quickly it might be worthwhile looking at reviews of the more recent TV miniseries, such as those over at Amazon, where the plot is laid out in reasonable detail. However, if you really feel you can make a case for the book deserving its own article (and if you check out our article Catherine Cookson you will note that none of her other books appear to have one, although some TV and film adaptations of her work do), then you are welcome to write it yourself. There's plenty of guidance on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels project pages on how to write an article about a novel. Karenjc 13:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Query

If a user adds in an elimination date for a person before they are eliminated, does that fall under NPOV or Vandalism? I Grave Rob (talk) 10:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Elimination date? That suggests all kinds of bad things (to me). But as far as the death of a person, I think WP:Crystal at the very least and vandalism as the more likely. Depending upon the context of the question, WP:NPA comes to mind, but in line with WP:AGF, I'll assume the question is in regards to a BLP, and there is the possibility that health issues might cause the "elimination" so to speak — Ched (talk) 10:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

• I'm gonna assume they're talking about an elimination from a reality tv show. But it really doesn't matter what it is specifically. If someone is not yet eliminated, the information is not verifiable meaning it has no place here. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:56, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

(*sigh of relief*) - ok, after looking over the edit history, I see you're referring to contest type of eliminations. Yea, WP:Crystal would be the link you're looking for. — Ched (talk) 10:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Some questions from Litherlandsand...

I've got some questions, and I'd appreciate the help if anyone could do so:

• Is my userpage acceptable?
• I haven't violated any policies posting my history of editing here?
• Is there anything wrong with the fact that I've mentioned that I edit from shared IPs?

--Litherlandsand (talk) 11:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong - full disclosure is a good thing I would think. Not like you're "outing" another user or anything. — Ched (talk) 11:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong but you would want to try and keep your other IPs under control :) I Grave Rob (talk) 11:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the help. As regards the other IPs being under control, well, what other people do on the computers isn't my business anyway, well, normally :) --Litherlandsand (talk) 11:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Archiving

Is there some way to archive those questions/answers earlier on the page? Because it was showing that the Archive from February 11 was being transcluded onto the page before I removed the {}'s from Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2009 February 11

Should I have done this, and can I archive other dates from the help desk? I Grave Rob (talk) 11:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Archiving is done by a bot automatically after a certain time period. There is no need for us to do it manually. I could not find the edit you are referring to in your contributions. Are you sure you made that edit? If an archive was transcluded here, it's likely to have been the result of some vandalism. Chamal ^talk 14:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Archiving is done by a bot (example) and it's deliberate that an archived day is transcluded. The bot operator once said the bot could fail if there is no transcluded date so I restored it. The bot sometimes runs with irregular intervals. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I Grave Rob removed it [2] in the same edit as the above post was signed (which was after the text had been saved). PrimeHunter (talk) 14:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c)"...it's deliberate that an archived day is transcluded"

I didn't know that :P Sorry. And also not being able to find that edit... am I dumb or what? Chamal ^talk 14:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Lists of products?

Hi. An anon editor has re-added a list of (model railway) products to the Dapol page. Previously I removed this as 'unencyclopaedic', and commented on Talk page, since that was the consensus arrived at when handling (similar) lists of Thomas the Tank Engine merchandise products, some time ago.

Rather than just delete the list again, I wanted to quote a suitable policy that stated why it wasn't appropriate. Now I could hit the editor with a tranche of "notability/verifiability/OR", but I was hoping there was something more specifically list-based that I could quote. (I have looked at WP:NOT and various list-policy pages, but could not see anything that addressed 'lists of products'.)

What is the best reason to give for removing the list? (or should it be allowed to remain?)

EdJogg (talk) 11:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

In general, I look at WP:NOT for this class of policies just as you did. In specifically, look at the WP:NOTDIRECTORY section. I think your list falls under "not a directory," with some taint of "not a sales catalog." -Arch dude (talk) 13:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Infobox

Hello! I added some content to infobox on the page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CITY_College,_Affiliated_Institution_of_the_University_of_Sheffield&action=edit, but it isn't shown when you got to article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CITY_College,_Affiliated_Institution_of_the_University_of_Sheffield (for example: email, phone etc. ). Can you please help me and tell me what is the problem? Many thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Floropoulou (talk • contribs) 11:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Two things: A) Infoboxes only print information they are coded for. Adding random info to an infobox will have no effect. The un-coded-for fields will just be ignored. B) Wikipedia does not normally publish contact information (such a phone numbers, email addresses) for corporations or for persons. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 12:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

When you click "edit this page", the bottom of the window has a list of transcluded pages. Click on Template:Infobox University in that list to see the documentation for the parameters (not all templates have documentation). PrimeHunter (talk) 13:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Standard way to address links to wrong page with same name

A couple of times now I have seen a page that includes a link via some name to another page with that name, but the target is a completely different entity with the same name. A couple of examples might make this clearer:

• According to the article about Meshech Weare, he married Elizabeth Shaw, but the target page is a company, not a person. (There are two other pages with the same error.)
• An earlier version of the article on Boyup Brook had a link to the wrong William Forrest.

Is there "standard" way to fix this, eg to rename the existing page and/or create a new one. Or (since I don't always have the time to fix it properly myself) flag it to be fixed? Eg, something like a ND tag? Mitch Ames (talk) 11:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

• Instead of renaming the article, which is likely to cause more faulty links than it solves, you can do two things. I recommend trying to find the correct article. If you can't find it, change the link in the article to point to a reasonable disambiguated title. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Changing a redirect

I'm trying to wikify Multicultural Education. Per MoS the title should be Multicultural education - the subject is the concept in general, not a book title, film, etc. But Mult ed already redirects to Mult Ed. How do I make Mult Ed redirect to Mult ed? Thanks. Itsmejudith (talk) 11:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I had fun with a similar situation on Fairway Market recently. I believe you need to get an admin to delete Mult ed, the redirect, so you can move Mult Ed there (preserving its page history); Mult Ed will then become a redirect. Add {{db-move|Multicultural Education}} to Mult ed and give a rationale on the talk page. Gonzonoir (talk) 12:13, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Indeed - and  Done [3] for you. Pedro :  Chat  12:14, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

And there's no need to delete the redirect. It is possible someone will also miscapitalize this as you have, so having the redirect is a good idea. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 12:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

HOW TO SEARCH IN WIKIPEDIA

HI I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO SEARCH TOPIC IN WIKIPEDIA. PLEASE HELP ME —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.141.157.98 (talk) 12:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

1. Turn caps lock off
2. Look on the left of the screen for a box with the text "search" above it
3. Type your topic into that box
4. Press the "Search" button.

Hope that helps! - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 12:12, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

PLEASE STOP SENDING ME JUNK e-MAIL

Unresolved

Please can someone stop spamming my e-Mail's inbox with spam/junk from Wikimedia Commons.

I received a large volume of e-Mails from Wikimedia Commons Adminstrator and Wikimedia Commons Help Desk.

This occoured today between 0445 and 1230.

PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME JUNK e-MAILS FROM WIKIMEDIA COMMONS - I do not want my inbox full of Wikimedia Commons garbage.

--Peter Skuce (talk) 13:08, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

This is the help desk for Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. The one on Wikimedia Commons, the free media repository, is down the hall, to your right. Xenon54 (talk) 13:29, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

If you are having difficulty with unwanted email from Wikimedia Commons, it's possibly because you have accidentally enabled this contact during your use of that site. Here is a direct link to their "Contact us" page. Karenjc 13:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Are you referring to the messages on your talk page? If so, please note that this is not email, but a talk page that is to be used for communications regarding your Wikipedia edits etc. Sometimes this is necessary, but if you want a particular user to stop contacting you all the time without any real reason, I suggest you tell them about it and ask them not to. Chamal ^talk 14:22, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

the problem occurred onhte Wikimedia Commons servers. The auto-notifier got stuck in the job queue, and when a system administrator unstuck it, it sent all of the e-mail from about the last month. The backlog has now been cleared, and the guys over there are properly embarassed. There was one poor botmaster who got thousands of e-mails. Oops. -Arch dude (talk) 19:40, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Selecting a random article

I'm doing a project investigating the biological accuracy of Wikipedia. I understand there is a random article link, but I specifically need to be able to select random articles from within the area of biology. Is there anyway I can do this? Thanks 195.194.178.188 (talk) 13:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

You can't select what articles can be displayed using the 'random article' link. However, since these articles are within the scope of WikiProject Biology, you can find all the articles you need in Category:Biology and in the subcategories listed there. There are quite a lot of articles, though. Chamal ^talk 14:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I thought http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AnomieBOT/RandomPage might be what you're after, but now I realise not. I would get a list of all the members of a category (use catscan), put one per line, generate a random line number and use that page. - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 17:08, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

See WP:EIW#Random. --Teratornis (talk) 04:35, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

technical question

Is it possible for me to put a message at the bottom of my talk page that will stay there and make it difficult for editors to edit below that message? I'm not trying to restrict editing on my talk page, just to keep the message always at the bottom. jimfbleak (talk) 15:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I know that ukexpat has something that floats at the bottom of his user/talk pages. Are you looking for something like that, or a message that's forced to the bottom? TNXMan 17:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes, you mean the navbar that User:Gnorthup wrote. That really doesn't do what jimfbleak wants. The sort-of-standard message bar like mine at User:Ukexpat/messagebar at least gives users a shot at getting it right by simplifying the addition of a new message at the bottom of the page. – ukexpat (talk) 19:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

You can create an editnotice at User talk:Jimfbleak/editnotice that will show at the top when someone edits the page; see Wikipedia:Editnotice. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 19:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

That should be User talk:Jimfbleak/Editnotice - the leading E must be capitalized for it to work. – ukexpat (talk) 20:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I've already got a push-to-edit box at the top of my talk page, I'm just trying to make it even harder to get it wrong jimfbleak (talk) 06:51, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

deleting

I have aproblem,I cannot get the button off my computer,which is on about your sight.Can you help me to find out how to get these buttons off of my home page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.255.113 (talk) 16:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know which button you are referring to. If it's about a Wikipedia page then please give a link to the page. This help desk is only for questions about Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:01, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

• If you accidentally set Wikipedia as your home page, simply setting another one will get rid of it. If you installed a toolbar which you don't like after all, you should go to the Control panel (in Windows) and uninstall the relevant software. Unless you get more specific, I have no idea which actions to follow. 0 Mgm|^(talk) 18:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

External Links

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Can someone point me to an article about Wikipedia's policy on External Links? I'm interested in what qualifies an external Web site to be listed in the External Links. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 17:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

You can see it here. Best, TNXMan 17:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 18:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Shlom bayit

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 – ukexpat (talk) 20:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed that one or two people keep changing the name of this article from Shalom bayit to Shlom bayit, which is not a commonplace spelling, so I decided to open the matter to a consensus discussion on the talk page. As I have never done something like this before, I was wondering how many days to leave the discussion open, and how to determine a consensus and make the final decision. Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 17:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Yoninah. You have listed the article at requested moves, which is loosely a five day process. You do not take any action and thus do not need to worry about closing or determining consensus. Instead a neutral third party will review the discussion and make a determination. as stated in the introduction to the process page "Requests are generally processed after five days, although backlogs of a few days develop occasionally. If there is a clear consensus after this time, the request will be closed and acted upon. If not, the administrator may choose to re-list the request to allow time for consensus to develop, or close it as "no consensus"."--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Great. Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 20:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Herman J. Mankiewicz

Can someone come and help with Herman J. Mankiewicz, another editor has been adding incorrect information to the article. Now they are removing all the fact tags and saying they are coming for one reference book that can't be seen online. I suspect that the editor is just adding the ref link cosmetically. He already readded that Herman J. Mankiewicz's parents emigrated from Poland three times, despite my three references that say that the father was born in Berlin and emigrated from Hamburg. Another set of eyes would be welcome to help double check the facts, since there was already that one error in the article. Any volunteers? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:20, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

This source backs up the German immigration bit, and may otherwise be helpful. - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 19:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

red letter entries

Please explain why some information contained within an entry is shown in RED lettering. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.15.184.23 (talk) 18:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Red link. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

They are links to articles that don't exist yet. They are useful for editors which enable them to click on them to create the article. ZooFari 20:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

#ifexist

Can this parser function be used to determine whether an article by a certain name exists in a foreign-language wikipedia? It doesn't seem like it, but I just wanted to make sure... Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

No - ParserFunctions only work on a single wiki, unfortunately. Dendodge Talk^Contribs 21:32, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Image scrollbox

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 – ukexpat (talk) 22:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

How do I make a scrollbox for a panorama image? Thanks, Grsz¹¹ 22:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Check out {{Panorama simple}}. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 22:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks much! Grsz¹¹ 22:22, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

summaries of novels

where do i find an article about summaries of novels?Anonymous122893 (talk) 23:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

If you mean a page about writing summaries in Wikipedia articles then see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)#Plot summaries and the links there. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

If you just mean a normal Wikipedia article covering the topic, there's some info at Summary, but not much. Feel free to expand it! -Elmer Clark (talk) 06:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

February 17

User names

How do I prevent my user name appearing automaticaly when I press the log in tab? I thought deleting my history and cookies etc would work, but it still displays my name before I type it. 81.158.177.64 (talk) 00:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, when you edit, your username is automatically recorded; if you don't want your username displayed, then change your username. Imperat§ r^(Talk) 01:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I dont mean when I edit. Above the space for the password my user name is displayed before I log in without me typing it, and for private reasons (I mean within my home) I would rather it didn't. I thought that deleting my history and cookies etc would prevent this. 81.151.84.100 (talk) 01:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

There should be something in your browser options with a name like "AutoComplete" that's all about remembering things you fill in fields. It's sometimes separate from cookies and history (in IE7 it's under the Content tab in the Internet Options dialog box). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 02:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

How do I create a link that opens within the Wikipedia frame?

Newbie question.How do I create a link that opens within the Wikipedia frame? I tried *Google, it opens a new page, and have to click the "back" button to go back to wikipedia. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wsunarko (talk • contribs) 00:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain you can't, and if you can, you shouldn't. Framed links are utterly vile. Algebraist 00:31, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

• In the Gadgets section of your preferences there is an option that says "Open external links in a new tab/window" If you choose that option, external links will open a new window or tab so that if you close that page, the Wikipedia page you came from is still waiting. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:37, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Contribute a photo

How do I contribute a photo to Wikipedia for Malibu U TV show?36hplandspeedracer (talk) 01:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

First read WP:FU to figure out whether the image complies with Wikipedia's non-free content guideline. If it does, see WP:UPLOAD. – ukexpat (talk) 01:56, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Screen

Why was the "Login Successful" screen removed? JCI (talk) 02:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I just logged out and back in to check and got the requisite screen so I'm not sure what you encountered but it hasn't been removed.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

It hasn't come up for me lately, but that's because I'm not using unified account any more. It just goes straight to the main page. Queenie ^Talk 17:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Disagreement with statement in article

What can be done to voice disagreement with the content of an article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandawg (talk • contribs) 03:30, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

You should discuss it on the article's talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 03:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) Every article (and most pages) have an associated talk page, accessible when you are at an article by clicking on the tab marked "discussion" at the top of the screen. Voice your concerns on that page. There are also all manner of maintenance tags that can be placed on an article to raise specific concerns. See {{Article issues}} for a tag that integrates many concerns, as well as generally Wikipedia:Template messages. Note that information in articles should be verified by citation to reliable sources, which means that unsourced disputed content can be removed and the burden is on those wishing to include the content to provide a source. This also means that reliably sourced material has a presumption of being kept, within reason. While I have provided some options, exactly what you should do really depends on context. I would not, for example, bowdlerize an article citing WP:BURDEN until I first voiced my concern on the talk page first unless there was exceptional circumstances, such as defamatory content in an article on a living person. Likewise, a judicious maintenance tag may be appropriate, but not slapping on twenty. Treading lightly is a good idea for new users until they get more steady clue legs.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm just not seeing a way to comment on the article by clicking the "discussion" tab. It's very confusing ... exactly where would I click to comment while on the discussion page for the article?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandawg (talk • contribs) 03:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Click on the edit buttons in near the last section and comment there. Like the ones on this page that look like this [edit]. Ltwin (talk) 03:59, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I think I've done that, but I don't see my comments.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandawg (talk • contribs)

You posted a comment at User talk:69.157.239.212, but that's not an article talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 04:06, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Did you click on the "save page" button below the edit window? If not then it wasn't saved. Also make sure you comment at the bottom of the talk page as it gets confusing if you comment near the top. Ltwin (talk) 04:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Check the user's contributions - apart from this page, their only other edit is to User talk:69.157.239.212 as I said above. – ukexpat (talk) 04:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

When I follow those instructions, my comments are not shown as a new subject, but as a continuation of the previous input.

First, please be careful that you don't inadvertently delete other user's replies, which you just did to mine above (now reinstated). Second to create a new section heading, type this at the left hand side of the page == nameofsection ==, then type your comment below it. If you want to indent a comment in an existing thread, use a : at the start of the line. Add additional colons to create successive levels of indentation ::, ::: etc. And don't forget to sign your messages by typing 4 tildes (~) at the end. – ukexpat (talk) 04:31, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Forgive me for all of my wikipedic transgressions - I'm new to this. If there is a user's guide containing all of this information, please point me to it. Ever so grateful for your infinite wisdom and patience. Bandawg (talk) 05:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

If you're starting at the beginning, which seems to be the case, a good place to start is with the book:

• Wikipedia - The Missing Manual, with the full text here for free

--Teratornis (talk) 08:51, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

You can click the "new section" tab to start a new section. See more at Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:09, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

How come the movie Tiger Claws doesn't have a page here?

I thought films were granted a famous status, which in turn would fulfill Wikipedia's criteria of notability. But I searched, and you don't have that movie, not a single thing about it; not even a line.--96.232.49.24 (talk) 03:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you create it then. Ltwin (talk) 03:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

The user will have to create an account first. – ukexpat (talk) 04:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

They could also use WP:AFC. To answer the question: A topic might fulfill the notability criteria, but to get an article, someone still has to decide to write one. In this case no one made the decision yet. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

As far as I know, there is no rule of thumb that all films are notable. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:55, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Duplicate image

What tag can be applied to an image which was uploaded here but already exists on Commons? The image to which I refer is this one. Dismas|^(talk) 03:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't look like a duplicate - that's the Wikipedia info page for a Commons file. See the box immediately below image, though I can understand why you missed it! – ukexpat (talk) 03:49, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that the Wikipedia image page exists (and is empty). Algebraist 04:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

So, how come the page has a history? I'm confused by your two, seemingly opposed, responses. Dismas|^(talk) 04:33, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

It looks like someone added tried to create the WP image page by adding an HTML image link, then deleted the text, creating the history. – ukexpat (talk) 04:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Template Infobox Planet

I'm not sure what to do. The "alt-names" part of the template is demanding a reference section in various asteroid articles, e.g. 5668 Foucault. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

The template documentation is actually clear on this one "This template expects that the <References /> tag will be present in articles setting the minorplanet parameter to yes." Just add the {{reflist}} template as I did in 5668 Foucault. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 07:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that there are a lot of articles like this (looks like maybe half the ones in Category:Asteroid stubs), and I have more interesting editing to do. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

• I have an update for the protected Template:Infobox_Planet which will treat the ref-tag footnote "[1]" as an infobox note "^[a]" (of colspan=2) and avoid having to edit any of those 10,788 asteroid articles. The tag "<references/>" will no longer be required by Infobox_Planet when used for asteriods ("minor planets"). However, the Wikipedia servers might take a week to reformat those 10,788 (or more) asteroid-articles to use the updated template. This is an easier, but not instant, fix for a massive nightmare problem. -Wikid77 (talk) 04:25, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I want to know about the type of techniques and methods for Removing of Arsenic Impurity from Air.

Respected Sir, iam having all the data about how to remove Arsenic impurity from the Water, you just let me know about how to remove a Arsenic Impurity from Air.I required this Detail as soon as.... ♠ ♠ ♠ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjaveed21 (talk • contribs) 08:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

• Please head over to the science reference desk; they answer factual questions. This page is for questions about the use of Wikipedia. - 131.211.211.53 (talk) 08:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Syntax for linking to an image's File page

Resolved

 – Zain Ebrahim (talk) 09:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I was just writing a comment on an article's discussion page and wanted add a text-only link directly to an images's file page, eg [[File:Bananas.jpg|the bananas' image page]]

Although that syntax worked as I'd expected in an edit summary, the wiki page itself treats it identically to [[Image:Bananas.jpg]] and displays the image rather than a link.

Is there a better option than using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bananas.jpg?

Sisson (talk) 08:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Use a colon like this or this. See Help:Colon trick for more. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 08:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Aha! Thanks! Sisson (talk) 09:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! :) Zain Ebrahim (talk) 09:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

bushfire danger area for The Basin

I am in South Australia and have friends who live at The Basin in Victoria. I have emailed them several times and had no reply. Is this an area affected by the horrific bushfires? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.201.81 (talk) 09:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

This is the page for questions about using Wikipedia. You may wish to check the reference desk. Stifle (talk) 11:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Alert if someone edits your text entry

Is there an alert system if someone goes in and changes something you have written? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.173.45 (talk) 11:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

No. However, registered users can keep a watchlist to keep track of articles they want. And please note that anyone is free to change anything you submit here per the GFDL, unless their edit is unconstructive. Nobody owns articles here, and as it clearly says below the edit box, "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it". Cheers. Chamal ^talk 11:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Also, if there is a particular article you are interested in following, you can click on the history tab, and see what edits have been made. The "Compare selected versions" button allows you to see the exact changes to the article. — Ched (talk) 12:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

'+363'? On watchlist

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 – Quincel99  (talk) 12:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I've just joined wikipedia, and set a page to be watched. It now has '(+363)' next to it on the watchlist. Is this the number of days it will be watched left, and if so why the + sign? ThanksQuincel99 (talk) 11:51, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

The + or - number next to a watchlist (or recent changes) entry reflects how many characters were added or removed in the last edit. In your case it means that the last edit added 363 characters to the article. Richard⁰⁶¹² 11:56, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

• It's the number of net bytes added to the article. The number could also be a negative displayed in red. It's a way to quickly see if large amounts of significant information have been moved that is also used in Recent Changes (see left menu) - Mgm|^(talk) 11:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you both for the timely responses, they clear up the matter excellently. Quincel99 (talk) 12:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Changed Username

I recently had my username changed. I understood that my old username account would be deleted, but it is still active. I am automatically logged into my old account when I go onto wikipedia even though I have cleared my cache and saved passwords. How do I get my old account completely deleted? God Emperor (talk) 12:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

• If you are signed into your old account, it might be because Single User Login is kicking in with your old Wiktionary account. Try logging out and forcing your browser to remember the new login details. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:36, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

uploading a word document

Why won't it let me upload a word document? It keeps saying 'file type cannot be uploaded. What do i need to do?86.138.164.109 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added on 13:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC).

Why do you need to upload a word document to Wikipedia? This type of files are not used in Wikipedia, so there is usually no need to upload them. If you want to create an article, please see this page and follow the instructions there. You can't create an article by uploading a text file. Also, please see WP:UPLOAD for further information and instructions on uploading files. This page explains in detail about the file types we use here and how they are used. Cheers. Chamal ^talk 13:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

If you want to convert a Word document to article text then see Wikipedia:Tools#Importing (converting) content from other formats to Wikipedia (MediaWiki) format. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:30, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Correct me if I am wrong, anon users cannot upload files nor create new articles. Please create an account if you want to create an article. --Joshua ^{Say "hi" to me!}_{What I've done?} 14:05, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Of course. And then you have to get autoconfirmed before you can upload files to Wikipedia. Chamal ^talk 14:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

If the message "file type cannot be uploaded" was reached then I think the upload attempt was made while logged in to an autoconfirmed account. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

What was the exact error or warning you got? Was it "".doc" is not a permitted file type. Permitted file types are png, gif, jpg, jpeg, xcf, pdf, mid, ogg, ogv, svg, djvu."? Jay (talk) 09:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

How to add Google Maps reference to Wikipedia article?

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 – ukexpat (talk) 16:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello, as my topic indicates I am wondering how to add the geographical data to an article or cause the article to appear on the wikipedia overlay. Any information would be appreciated. I noticed there are some articles about locations near where I live but they do not appear on the google maps wiki overlay at all (presumably, because they don't have any geographical location info in them). This is an example of what I am talking about, how to add these:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=37.794864,-122.421341&spn=0.046663,0.11158&t=k&z=14&lci=lmc:wikipedia_en

Almost all the pages with landmarks that appear on the overlay have geographical coordinates, so I guess what I am asking is how do I generate the nifty geographical link from toolserver.org? example:

http://stable.toolserver.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Bear_Mountain_Bridge&params=41_19_12_N_73_58_49_W_region:US-NY_type:landmark

thanks _ morde _t ^.. 14:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

{{coord}}. Algebraist 14:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

ah yes that's what I was looking for. then google crawls wiki, finds that, bingo _ morde _t ^.. 14:27, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Can you change what was originally put on wikipedi?

I'm trying to delete a lot of the information that was originally put on the description. It keeps coming right back to the original information. Can I delete information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.213.46.194 (talk) 15:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Can I assume you are referring to this article? If so, the best suggestion I can give you is to discuss your concerns on the article's talk page. See what other editors think about the information you want to remove and determine why they want to keep it. Remember, all articles must be backed up by reliable sources and written from a neutral point of view. TNXMan 15:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Why can't I...

...email articles from Wikipedia? There doesn't seem to be a button to email. Am I missing something? or is it not possible to email?

Thanks, Senisaboy (talk) 15:25, 17 February 2009 (UTC)Senisaboy

Why do you need a special button? What's wrong with just emailing the url? Algebraist 15:27, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

How to remove a tag that is a hidden category

The page Johston Center for Integrative studies is tagged as follows "The introduction to this article provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject."

I rewrote the introduction and believe the tag can be removed, but I can't figure out how to remove the tag. How do I do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lcuff (talk • contribs) 16:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Delete the {{context}} tag at the top of the article text.  Badgernet  ₪  16:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Change to title of article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlow_Carr_Gardens

Hi,

My name is Jenni Shepherd and I work in the marketing department here at RHS Garden Harlow Carr. I have been editing the article on the gardens through my account but can't seem to change the main title of the article from 'Harlow Carr Gardens', which was the name of the gardens when it was owned by the Northern Horticultural Society to 'RHS Garden Harlow Carr' which is the current name of the garden. Is there any way I can change it or would it be possible to have it updated internally as it is causing some confusion with our visitors? If you require any more information please do not hesitate to contact me at <e-mail redacted> Kind Regards,

Jenni Shepherd PR & Marketing Assistant RHS Garden Harlow Carr —Preceding unsigned comment added by RHSGardenHarlowCarr (talk • contribs) 16:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Your account must be autoconfirmed before you can move an article, I will do it for you. However, your user name gives me concern as it appears to violate WP's rules against promotional user names: WP:USERNAME. – ukexpat (talk) 17:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

 Done. Article moved to RHS Garden Harlow Carr. – ukexpat (talk) 17:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

How to change contents of boiler-plate text that appears on many pages?

On each of the pages devoted to Richard Strauss's operas, in the upper right corner, is a box listing all of the composer's operas and the dates of their premieres. Although the premieres are correctly dated in the main text of the discrete pages, many of the dates in the box are incorrect. How do I edit this box? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Purslane (talk • contribs) 16:56, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Clicking on the little "e" at the bottom of the box will bring you to this page, where you can edit {{Strauss operas}}. Bencherlite^Talk 17:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Does it say anywhere that the box is supposed to show the date of the premiere? Maybe it is the year Strauss completed writing. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:37, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

The template talk page has zero activity so it may be best to discuss changes to the template at the Opera Project's talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 19:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

knowledge and belief

how can knowledge be justified through belief? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.204.224.15 (talk) 17:17, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. But I think you really need a philosopher because we cannot do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 17:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Lots of people try to justify knowledge through belief alone. A common result of this approach is Religious war. This contrasts with the Scientific method which allows people from all around the world and having every kind of cultural background to agree on what "truth" is (at least within narrowly defined domains), without having to kill each other. --Teratornis (talk) 21:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

my article doesn't appear but it isn't rejected either...

...it just sits in limbo: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ncoapedia&oldid=264520837

Why? What can I do to get it published or publicly available? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncoapedia (talk • contribs) 17:25, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

You need to move your article to the mainspace, but I really would not recommend doing that. The article appears to be advertising, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. You may want to retry re-writing your article from a neutral point of view which is supported by independent reliable sources. TNXMan 17:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry that is 100% spam and has been nominated for speedy deletion. – ukexpat (talk) 17:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Now deleted. – ukexpat (talk) 18:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

school assignment on HIV/AIDS

What are the symptom of HIV/AIDS? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.242.134.134 (talk) 17:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Please do your own homework.

Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.
If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia.

Please sign your post by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: . Do NOT sign in articles. Dendodge Talk^Contribs 17:36, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

You might find some information, however, in the HIV and/or AIDS articles. —teb728 t c 18:35, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Moving userspace articles to main article space

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 – TNXMan 20:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Am I right in thinking it's OK to move an article I've created in userspace over to the main article space? If I'm the only editor, is there any preference for doing it that way rather than copy&paste? Do I need to delete the resulting redirect from my userspace when I'm done?Gonzonoir (talk) 20:09, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I've moved the page for you and you can find it at Sex Panic!. You do not have to delete the resulting redirect if you don't want to, but if you wish to do so, simply blank the page or place {{db-userreq}} at the top. Best, TNXMan 20:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Grand! Thanks very much. Gonzonoir (talk) 20:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem! TNXMan 20:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmm ... looks like good work. Nice job Tnxman307 Gonzonoir. — Ched (talk) 20:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC) (well - nice job on the move Tnxman lol - sigh, I REALLY need new bifocals ;)) — Ched (talk) 20:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Cheers! Fraught topic; hope I've done it some justice. Now to get more eyes onto it to check :) Gonzonoir (talk) 23:33, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Some might argue that it's better to copy and paste, since the previous revision history of an article you've created in userspace is only really meaningful to you.--Michael White^T·C 20:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Help:Moving a page advises against copy and paste moves, but when only one editor has contributed to a page, only one editor needs attribution to comply with the GFDL, and thus it wouldn't seem to matter whether the attribution gets collapsed into one history page entry. However, as long as the "move" tab works, that's the method I would recommend. I myself have used both methods, for example I've developed several templates in a sandbox user page, which I keep reusing to develop more templates. If I were to move the sandbox to a real template page now, the history would contain a bunch of junk from my previous templates. To get a "clean" history, I'd have to develop each template from a distinct page name in my userspace. But then I would end up cluttering my userspace with a bunch of redirects to all the templates I have created, and I would have to {{db-user}} them, which seems like a pointless bother. --Teratornis (talk) 21:35, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the thoughts, all. Looks like consensus is broadly "doesn't really matter", but since I'd like to work on multiple draft articles simultaneously I guess I'll go with distinct user subpages and moves as the way forward, to make it easier for me to keep track. Out of interest, anyone know if moving the subpage to article space reattributes the historic edits as article space contributions? Gonzonoir (talk) 23:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Also, Ternatoris, do you mean that the {{db-user}} route is pointless bother for the page creator who adds the tag, or for the admin who has to act on it? I'm happy to suck up a bit of bother myself, but don't want to add to a backlog someone else must deal with. Gonzonoir (talk) 23:35, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

It does reattribute the edits. At AfC, moving a page reattributes all of the edits from Wikipedia Talk space to main article space. Also, adding {{db-userreq}} adds the article to list of articles, talk pages, and other things that qualify for speedy deletion. It's a queue that is regularly cleaned up by admins. TNXMan 23:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Help for Article in the scope of "Computing WikiProject"

Dear Sirs, I have found in Wikipedia that a WikiProject, named "Computing WikiProject" exists, which aims at building a comprehensive and detailed guide to computers and computing. I would like to submit to Members of such a Project the article EICASLAB and possibly receive indications for improving the article in term of quality. Can you please tell me which is the correct way to proceed? Thank you very much for your help and support. Best regards. Caporaletti (talk) 20:28, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing is more of an umbrella WikiProject, with many subsidiary projects specializing in the many different aspects of computing. See the table at:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Science#Computing

to find the most specific WikiProject(s) for the EICASLAB article. There is also a Wikipedia:WikiProject Robotics which may apply. Once upon a time we had an Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive, but this seems to have died. In general, the best way to improve something on Wikipedia is to just improve it yourself. We don't really need organizations to oversee what people should be doing anyway. If you don't know how to improve articles on Wikipedia, then read the friendly manuals. A great place to start is by reading the book:

• Wikipedia - The Missing Manual (here is the full text)

--Teratornis (talk) 20:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

As far as what specifically the EICASLAB article needs, the best place to critique the article is on its talk page. To get a general idea of where we want all articles to go, examine our featured articles (the articles judged to be of the highest quality on Wikipedia), in particular Wikipedia:FA#Computing. The number of things one has to know to write a featured article would fill a book. In fact they do. --Teratornis (talk) 20:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Your talk page already contains some criticism of the EICASLAB article. Do you need clarification on any of these issues? Also, your username resembles one of the authors cited in the EICASLAB article. If you are personally associated with the article's subject, please read WP:COI carefully. Some Wikipedia users take the strict view that nobody should edit an article they have a personal interest in, because it will be difficult for them to maintain neutrality. For users with very little editing experience on Wikipedia, that is probably good advice. However, I consider the strict view somewhat impractical, because it contradicts the Foundation issue that anyone should be free to edit Wikipedia. To my mind, "free" means "free to edit anything they want." However, everyone else is equally free to edit, so when an editor edits with an obvious bias, other editors are likely to swoop in and remove the bias. Therefore I view WP:COI as more descriptive (of what will happen to biased edits) than prescriptive (what we must not do). I.e., if you edit the EICASLAB article without a firm understanding of WP:COI, you will not be in complete harmony with other editors, and your edits are less likely to "stick". --Teratornis (talk) 21:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Which Wikipedian said this?

I recall reading a year or two ago a discussion page in which a scientist Wikipedia stated that he might have left Wikipedia because of the drama (I think), but that he felt it was his duty to make sure the top Google results for his field (Wikipedia articles) contained good content. Does anyone happen to know who wrote this? --Michael White^T·C 20:46, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Can you give any more details? Such as the namespace containing the discussion page? The topic of discussion? The specific definition of "his field"? Whether the scientist posted under a real name or a pseudonym? How you know this user is a scientist? (I.e., is he famous and verified to be that person, or does he merely self-report as a scientist?) We can:

• Search Wikipedia with Google for: scientist google drama

but those terms are common, we don't know if they actually appeared on the page you saw, and Google does not index pages in the article talk namespace. --Teratornis (talk) 21:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

This isn't really what the Help Desk is here for; we're here to help you use Wikipedia. That is a very common reason for leaving anyway, so if that's the only thing to go on you're not going to have much luck. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

If the original poster is asking how to search for a particular string of text on Wikipedia, that is within the scope of using Wikipedia. However, the description of the particular string seems insufficiently clear to give our (relatively dumb) search tools any purchase. --Teratornis (talk) 21:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

To answer similar questions in the future, the original poster may want to install Desktop search software, which among other things allegedly can search the Web pages a user has viewed. This could help with the common problem of "I know I saw it somewhere but I can't recall exactly where". --Teratornis (talk) 21:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

You can try asking at WP:Village pump (miscellaneous). Jay (talk) 09:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

How do I find the history of a building?

I live in an old house and want to know more about it....2136 Red Rose Way Santa Barbara CA.

It isn't a prominent home...looks like a farm house. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kath763 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

You could ask on the Reference desk. This Help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia, and Wikipedia only has articles about a limited number of notable houses. --Teratornis (talk) 21:24, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Centering a Template

Is there a way to center a template? As in, one that could be included in the template? I think that "div style="text-align: center;"" only works on text. Is this true, and if so, how would I center a template? Thanks, Genius101^Guestbook 22:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

There are different types of templates with different purposes. Centering can be done in different ways and wouldn't make sense for many template types. Do you have a specific template in mind? If the template makes a table then the table can be centered. See Help:Table#Centering tables for a way. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Al Pacino biography _ administrator

Hi there

how can I get in touch with the administrator of the Al Pacino biography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Pacino#1960s because i have problems with editing process for the references Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergeji (talk • contribs) 22:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Articles do not have administrators. Please let us know here what the problem is or discuss it on the article's talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 23:04, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe Wikipedia:Footnotes is of help. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:06, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

You can get the attention of the other editors of the article on the article talk page, Talk:Al Pacino —teb728 t c 00:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Scrollable Userbox box

I've seen some users that have a scrollable box for their Userboxes. I'd like to know what that template/command/syntax is. If at all possible, is it able to be left-aligned? Thanks!! ←Signed:→Mr. E. Sánchez ^{Get to know me!} / _{Talk to me!}←at≈:→ 23:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

• This might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Scroll_box —Noah 00:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

February 18

Al Pacino biography : Problems with editing process for references

Problems with editing process for references I put the references at the end of every paragraph but when i put the same reference more than once the number is each time different and i do not understand why it happens —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergeji (talk • contribs) 00:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

You have to name the references to use them multiple times. Please see Naming a ref tag so it can be used more than once for instructions on how to do this. Cheers. Chamal ^talk 00:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! it worked for a book reference but it did not work for a reference/link to a website _ plus if i have many and different references how i can distinguish the multiple ? i could not find any instructions about it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergeji (talk • contribs) 12:26, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

you can use the "ref name" technique with the "cite web" template - see WP:Citation templates for the format.

i'm not sure i understand your other question, but: when you use the "ref name" technique and you have several different sources, just give each source a different name. if you're like me, checking out how it's done in other articles and imitating what you see will be more productive than trying to follow instructions ... good luck! Sssoul (talk) 14:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

free speech

So i guess its time to use some other source. Its only appropriate if it flattering comments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.109.216 (talk) 01:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

It sounds like you have a complaint of bias and/or advertising in a Wikipedia article. Could you point to something specific? We may be able to help. TNXMan 02:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

How can I cancel my account?

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Corruptcopper (talk) 16:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Can you just cancel my account please??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by -ms.furious04- (talk • contribs) 01:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Accounts cannot be cancelled but you can exercise the right to vanish. – ukexpat (talk) 01:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Since you have no edits aside from the one to this page, just stop using your account. If you picked a secure password, that's essentially the same as canceling your account. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 01:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Request an article

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 – ukexpat (talk) 15:26, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I know I can, but forgot how to. How do I request a book on Wikibooks also? H4xx0r-666 (talk) 02:15, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Found it... H4xx0r-666 (talk) 02:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Addition of new term

Greetings,

I am writing to request additional information on how to best contribute information on a valuable new term that has recently emerged to define "borderless web video". The term is Walkout Video. Yes, my company originally developed and sells the technology. There are however many other web video companies that have emulated our technology....with that said, we have noticed something very interesting happening...a new brand is emerging to define borderless web video. We are receiving thousands of emails for our service every month (organically). Business owners and consumers are asking for "Walkout Video"...not even knowing that this is the name of our product. My point is...we are seeing the formation of a brand name (analogous to Kleenex for tissues) with respect to borderless web video. It is developing well beyond our efforts. I would like to add an entry into Wikipedia for Walkout Video and explain the history on the evolution of borderless web video. But I can't find where/how to add a term to your encyclopedia. Can you help?

Thank You,

Mike Schuch <removing email - spam prevention> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adguytap (talk • contribs) 03:34, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

A new term or brand name is unlikely to meet Wikipedia's notability requirements set out at WP:N. In addition because of your relationship with the subject matter you have a huge conflict of interest and should avoid writing about it. If this really is notable, someone will write an article about it sooner or later. – ukexpat (talk) 04:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

As Ukexpat said, generally new terms (or "neologisms") do not warrant their own article. Our guideline on avoiding them explains why. Cheers, caknuck _° is a silly pudding 08:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Adding a university's name to a list

There is a category or subcategory of American universities, listed alphabetically, and it's linked to such categories as American Academics. I was trying to add [the] University of Puget Sound, but I was unsure how to edit that particular page or whether I even should attempt it. Perhaps someone else can add the name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ostrom (talk • contribs) 04:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

A category is a listing of existing pages. So, to get that particular university to appear in the relevant category, you would need to make sure that the article University of Puget Sound exists (which it currently does), and edit said article to include [[Category:CATEGORY NAME|SORTKEY]], where CATEGORY NAME is the actual name of the category it's supposed to go in, and SORTKEY is the name that it should be treated as for sorting purposes (for example, while biographical articles are generally titled Firstname Surname, they will be given a sortkey of Surname, Firstname so that they appear in relevant categories listed under the first letter of their surname). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 06:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Franklin Delano Roosevelt Memorial

If someone could check the trouble with this article. I've juste add "<reference/" whick missed it and that have created a new problem with the convert acre/m2 model I do not understand (we haven't the same model on the French Wikipedia). Thanks. TCY (talk) 05:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

{Template convert} is broken, see the entry below. Chuckiesdad/Talk/Contribs 05:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Looks like it's been fixed. Chuckiesdad/Talk/Contribs 06:55, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Archive 1.0000000000000000

The archive number displayed in Talk:List of twelve-step groups looks like it went from an int to a float. -- Scarpy (talk) 05:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, a recent (as in minutes ago) software update broke it. Should be fixed soon. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 05:22, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Is this what broke {Template:convert} as well? Chuckiesdad/Talk/Contribs 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, great. No, that didn't break directly, but it was probably affected by the broken update. It is now fixed, purge any affected page. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 05:39, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, it appears to be a separate issue. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 05:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Purge worked for me on Talk: Barack Obama, fwiw. Tvoz/talk 07:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

windows has lost accesss to hard drive partitions

Windows has lost access to three partitions on my hard drive. dirives:disk1_vol3E:\---disk1_vol4F:\---disk1_vol5G:\ These drives are visible in dos,or outside of windows. While disk1_vol1C:\ and disk1_vol2D:\ are available with no problems. I was able to defrag the affected partitions,but windows still can't access them.Seems like this is a registry or system software problem. Can you Help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnney51 (talk • contribs) 05:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Not here. This Help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. You could try at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing or better yet treat yourself to Microsoft's excellent online technical support. Microsoft could not have become the world's largest software company by having lousy support - right? --Teratornis (talk) 06:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

No comment. :p Sephiroth storm (talk) 08:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

:O .. — Ched (talk) 15:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

is pornograph a word??????

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Corruptcopper (talk) 16:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I have pondered this for quite a while. Pornography is a word just like Photography, but it just does not sound right when you say i am looking at pornograph am i tripping or what, I think pornograph should be some kind of word according to the associations that it comes with. I don't think that porn or pornography should be short versions. I only think that it should be proper as its own word. There are so many words that have the same beginning and ending, but yet pornograph is not a correct word, please if anyone has an answer for me please let me know why pornograph is not a word. I could use it in many example sentences if need be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaita125sae (talk • contribs) 05:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

It's best not to edit on Wikipedia while trippin' although I do not speak from personal experience. Your odds of getting an answer might improve if you ask your question on Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language. The English language has many words for which the root words or stems or other variants are not in common use. Some words, for example, are much more common as negations. Can you think of some? --Teratornis (talk) 06:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

To answer your question, pornograph is listed in the Oxford English Dictionary. The listing does include a definition of "pornograph" as a piece of pornography, akin to a "photograph" as a piece of photography. RJaguar3 | u | t 06:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Egypt under fatimid dynasty

Good day,please i need you to help me with this question: Discuss the Egypt under Fatimid dynasty...i need help bcos i have to discuss this topic in front of my class mate in school and i don't want to fail OR disappoint myself...I will be looking forward to read from you all. Thanks

JerimiahJeriwillexalt (talk) 06:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

We won't do your homework (or prepare your discussions) for you, but you can get some information about that particular period at Fatimid Caliphate. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 06:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Article name

How can the name of an article be changed? It seems to me that the name Reza in this article is misspelled. Reza returns 2,100,000 hits on google and most of the top results related to the Middle Eastern name. Rezza returns 109,000 results, almost none relate to the Middle Eastern name besides this one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Rezza_Talabani

I changed the article text but I didn't know how to change the article name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RainbowJack (talk • contribs) 08:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

In order to change the title of an article, the article must be moved to the correct name. Dismas|^(talk) 10:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I haven't made enough edits to able to do it. Is there someone else who would do this?RainbowJack (talk) 11:34, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Done. Dismas|^(talk) 11:58, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

ROHI TV

the official website is not given on; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pakistani_television_channels for ROHI TV, ROHI TV's website address is (http://www.rohi.pk) please update it... thank you ahsan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.109.43.209 (talk) 08:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi there - that web address actually does appear in the article, in the external links section. Gonzonoir (talk) 15:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Updating the logo on the Aviva Investors page

I am the content contributor for this Wiki entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Morley_Fund_Management_logo.svg#file. Originally the company i represent was called Morley however we are now called Aviva Investors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviva_Investors.

I have tried to change the current logo on this page (which is a Morley logo) with the new Aviva Investors logo, however i am anable.

I have tried to attach the new logo to this mail but again am unable, the image however can be found at this link http://www.avivainvestors.co.uk/customer/internet/images/AvivaInvestorsWebsiteLook/img/branding/aviva-logo.gif.

If possible can someone help me update the logo.

Many thanks

Nick —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.73.101.7 (talk) 10:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm working on it -- give me a few minutes. – ukexpat (talk) 15:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

 Done. – ukexpat (talk) 15:39, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

How long would it take for google search to NOT list a deleted wikipedia biography article?

You see, I made an article a week ago, or so and then after an AfD discussion, it was deleted. But each time I google up the name of the person, who's wiki biography article was deleted, is still listed on top of the google search. Which shouldn't be since it's already deleted. And when I click the link, it showed the page with the person's name BUT with a tag saying that it's deleted. To make it worse, even though I deleted it's entry in the Articles for Rescue section, it's still listed second on google search. How long would it take for google search to not find these deleted pages? I know google has a cache thingy, but for how long must his name be listed on wikipedia via google search? I transfered to another less famous wiki but it isn't shown in google searches simply because the first thing listed is wikipedia. Please help. Angdl (talk) 11:08, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

It takes a little while for Google to re-crawl Wikipedia. Just be patient, we can't do anything to speed it up. Xenon54 (talk) 11:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion and subpages are not indexed by Google because our robots.txt at http://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt tells search engines to exclude it:

# Folks get annoyed when VfD discussions end up the number 1 google hit for
# their name. See bugzilla bug #4776
# en:
Disallow: /wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/

I have moved the Articles for deletion discussion back to the correct title so it can be found from within Wikipedia if somebody creates a new article. Google's cache of the deleted article is from 13 February and it was deleted 15 February. It will probably be deindexed within a week. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, what about the articles for rescue/rescue squadron? It's still listed there. Will this disappear from google search too? Angdl (talk) 14:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I see you removed it [4]. Otherwise maintainers at Article Rescue Squadron would have removed it later. It will be removed from Google search next time Google indexes the relevant pages. Their currently cached version is from 11 February. I will mention the possibility of adding {{NOINDEX}} at Wikipedia talk:Article Rescue Squadron, but articles are only listed there for a limited time so it's not a big issue. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Printing problems

I have just tried to print out the article on Batu Lintang camp - it comes out at 24 pages, of which pages 5, 7, 10, 13, 16 and 17 were blank. The page contents were missing rather than shunted on to the next printed page. Is this likely to be a problem at the Wiki end or with my computer? Thanks Jasper33 (talk) 12:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

We keep getting reports like this, where certain pages do not print. I'm a printer support tech, but I have not been able to reproduce the problem. So:

• What brand and model printer are you using?
• If you click on printable version on the left toolbar, are those pages visible?
• While viewing the printable version, what happens when you print?

--—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 12:55, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Gadget - thanks for your quick response. I'm using an HP PSC 2355. I printed the faulty version by hitting the print icon on my upper toolbar (not sure about the correct technical term as I am a techno-numpty - the one that says ALT + R when you highlight it) rather than using the Wikipedia toolbar printable version. Looking at the printable version onscreen, all the article is there; I've just tried printing it out from the Wikipedia toolbar printable version and I get the same sequence of blank pages (well, I assume it would be the same - I let it print from pages 24 to 12 and 17, 16 and 13 were blank again so I pulled it to save paper and ink). Hope this is of some use in your quest! Jasper33 (talk) 13:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I printed on a laser printer and all pages printed, which is what I have seen before. Do you have the software to create a PDF? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 14:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

'Fraid not - I can read them but not make them. Jasper33 (talk) 15:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

• Try http://www.primopdf.com/, a free PDF creator. This won't fix the underlying issue, but I am interested in see if a PDF comes up with blank pages as well.
• What browser are you using?
• Page 5 is blank: what are the preceding and successive lines?

--—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the link - but as I'm not very handy with technology getting the PDF up and running might take a while ... I use Internet Explorer. Last line of page 4 is were housed in five very small barracks[2] and each person was allotted a space of 6 feet by 4 feet and the first of page 6 is The women were at first allowed to undertake domestic tasks around their camp; later they were forced. Jasper33 (talk) 15:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Possibly a dumb question, but are you sure that's a safe site? when I was opening/downloading the PDF maker software my Windows warning thingy came up with a big red symbol saying the site didn't have a security certificate publisher of the site couldn't be verified, and I'm not too keen on downloading stuff that seems dodgy! Jasper33 (talk) 15:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Using IE7 and a laser printer, pages 10 and 17 are blank. It may take a bit, but let me delve into this. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 17:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

• I can print pages 9–11 and 10 is blank; page preview shows the same.
• If I change the margins, the blank pages move around.
• If I change the print zoom, the blank pages move around.

--—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk -  19:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay Gadget, thanks for all your help. Whoops forgot it signs you out after a bit - I don't know which version of Internet Explorer I'm on - does that matter? Jasper33 (talk) 17:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Approaching Commercial Entities For Copyright Permission

I wish to add an image to two distinct entries but the copyright belongs to a commercial entity [software developer]. There is no public domain images available so am thinking of approaching the developer and or its publisher directly. What specific permissions must I request of these commercial entities? Must they release into the public domain an image or can they be the licence holder and not reflect NPOV?

Also, can a company edit it's own entry? [ie: one that an individual created but that the commercial entity edit's in order to facilitate authenticity]

Many thanks Twobells (talk) 13:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

To see the guidelines for requesting see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission and Wikipedia:Example requests for permission. Companies are discouraged from editing their own articles under Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, but if they do - should follow the guidelines on that page. Nanonic (talk) 13:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Be sure to look at WP:NPOV as well; even though all wiki editors are strongly urged to follow it, people/companies editing themselves must strictly abide by it...Imperat§ r^(Talk) 14:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Image Upload Problems

Resolved

 – ukexpat (talk) 15:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I am attempting to upload an image, but when I press upload, the page isn't doing anything. It's just sitting there. Any idea why? Have I done something wrong? This is my first attempt at uploading an image...Rivka (talk) 13:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind I figured it out by rather unreasonable deduction, lol. Rivka (talk) 13:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

When you upload images, you usually want to save it as a JPEG/JPG file. Also, make sure the file size isn't too big. Other than that, you might want to try again and wait. Cheers. Imperat§ r^(Talk) 14:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Is this alternate account acceptable??

It';s a while since Ive been here, so bear with me. I've set up an alternate account, User:Placename Hlio - see the userpage for its uses - is its use acceptable?

Don't want to get off on the wrong foot, just looking for advice or guidance. --Litherlandsand (talk) 14:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

It is acceptable under this guide. As long as you clearly identify what's going on, it should be fine. TNXMan 16:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

What should be done when an anonymous editor posts his/her personal information on a talk page?

Should one just remove the personal information, ask an admin to delete the edit, or would it be appropriate to request oversight right away (even without request of the editor)? --Paul_012 ^(talk) 16:51, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

It depends. If they claim to be over 18, it should probably just be removed and/or deleted by an admin. If they're underage, I would suggest oversight. TNXMan 17:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I just edit it out with a <redacted personal info> in its place. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:07, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

• It would depend. I'd edit out any personal information that could be used to track down the user or commit identity theft unless the user already edits under their real name. For minors I'd redact any personal information beyond age and first name because they're unlikely to comprehend the effects releasing other info could have on their life. - 87.211.75.45 (talk) 18:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

wikipedia

how often is wikipedia updated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.62.201.22 (talk) 17:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Everyday, hundreds of times a minute. Since it's a community encyclopedia, every time someone adds something, Wikipedia is updated. TNXMan 17:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c), that shows how updated this page is! :) See the recent changes; there are thousands of edits every minute. Queenie ^Talk 17:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

To see when the article you are viewing got its last update, click the "history" tab at the top. Although Wikipedia gets hundreds of edits every minute, most edits are to the more popular articles. With 6,909,473 articles on Wikipedia on a vast range of topics, there are many obscure articles which get very few views and only infrequent edits. So, depending on what article(s) you care about, Wikipedia might be updated frequently or only rarely. This is an aspect of the "Blind men and an elephant" nature of Wikipedia: the system is so huge that your impression of Wikipedia may be completely different, depending on which parts of Wikipedia you are looking at. --Teratornis (talk) 19:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Username Concern

I am completely mystified. I just created an account and tried to post a request for subsidiary content posting and I got an email saying something was the matter with my user name, 3LankanGirls, and that I could say something about this to whoever sent me this email but I CANNOT FIND THE PLACE WHERE I CAN TALK BACK TO THEM!!!! Aaargh! Help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 3LankanGirls (talk • contribs) 17:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

It appears that someone left you note about your username. They are concerned that it does not meet our username policy. You can reply to the user on his/her talk page. TNXMan 17:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

You could also reply on your own user talk page, User talk:3LankanGirls. Inasmuch as the other editor invites you to reply there, he/she is presumably watching it for a reply. —teb728 t c 23:02, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Unable to edit pages through Firefox - Error received upon clicking Save page

My problem is strange, I can edit pages through Safari, but when I try to do so through Firefox, I receive an error upon clicking "Save page". I don't experience this problem when using Firefox on other computers, so I assume the problem is on my end.
OS - Mac OS X 10.5.1 Firefox Extensions -User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3
Build ID: 2007030919

Enabled Extensions: [9]

   * Adblock Plus 1.0.1
   * Adblock Plus: Element Hiding Helper 1.0.5
   * CustomizeGoogle 0.76
   * DOM Inspector 1.8.1.3
   * ErrorZilla Mod 0.34
   * Greasemonkey 0.8.20080609.0
   * MR Tech Toolkit 6.0.3.2
   * Platypus 0.81
   * Talkback 2.0.0.3

Disabled Extensions: [1]

   * Fasterfox 2.0.0

Installed Themes: [2]

   * extero 1.0
   * Firefox (default)

Installed Plugins: (6)

   * Default Plug-in
   * Flip4Mac Windows Media Plugin 2.1.3
   * Java Embedding Plugin 0.9.6
   * QuickTime Plug-in 7.4
   * Shockwave Flash
   * Verified Download Plugin

The error reads -

Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please try again in a few minutes. You may be able to get further information in the #wikipedia channel on the Freenode IRC network. The Wikimedia Foundation is a non-profit organisation which hosts some of the most popular sites on the Internet, including Wikipedia. It has a constant need to purchase new hardware. If you would like to help, please donate.

Below this text is (Roughly re-formatted to its appearance on the page) - If you report this error to the Wikimedia System Administrators, please include the details below. Request: POST http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=submit, from ###.##.###.# via sq16.wikimedia.org (squid/2.6.STABLE21) to () Error: ERR_INVALID_REQ, errno [No Error] at Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:21:16 GMT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.33.45.13 (talk) 17:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

a lil confused about discussion page content...

it appears i'm a lil lost about the rules regarding the proper content of the discussions page... if you could, could you review the discussion page on the Leadwerks Game Engine ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Leadwerks_Engine ) and please let me know what is or isn't permissable...

i'll quickly amend my postings to conform to the proper form...

thanks in advance

Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense <redacted personal info>

Red Ocktober (talk) 17:58, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Per WP:TALK, talk pages should only discuss the merits of the article, not the product/service/person. I can see that the former quickly became the latter on that page. However, this has already been highlighted to you I believe; you might want to look back over the advice that has already been given. Certainly, pare down what you have said to what is relevant re. the article. - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 18:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Also: re-format it in more formal style, as you would a newspaper article, rather than as you would an e-mail to a friend; your text as written has too many new "paragraphs" consisting of sentence fragments and the like. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Huggle Substitute?

What is the best anti-vandalism tool I could use to replace huggle while the squid server is down? I use Windows Vista. Thanks in advance. Queenie ^Talk 18:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I think a few people have gone back to Lupin's anti-vandal tool. I've never used it myself, however. TNXMan 18:07, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I already have that, it's slow enough. I mean, 9 times out of 10 a huggler will get there before me. Queenie ^Talk 18:10, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Does it matter who gets there first? There are no prizes for reverting the most vandalism, the important thing is that it gets reverted. – ukexpat (talk) 18:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

If you rarely get there first because your tools are slow, then you aren't doing as much to combat vandalism as you might be doing. Algebraist 22:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I've tried Huggle, and I use Lupin - personally I like lupin because of the "check it out first" process. Huggle is nice, but it's very easy to "click-click" into a mistake. I'd rather be sure before I revert, tag, or warn. If I'm running into a situation where Cluebot and others are getting to all the vandals before I am, I figure it's all under control, and move on to other editing areas. Research, edit an article, new page patrol, spell check, etc. Just my personal choices though — Ched (talk) 23:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget Twinkle and its vandalism tools! They may be made of stone, but they still exist! flaminglawyer 01:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

That doesn't work with IE... :( Queenie ^Talk 17:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

(shameless plug) Mozilla Firefox is better anyway... :-P Hermione1980 17:21, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Neah. Now I understand the summary I saw on my watchlist: plugplugplug. :D Queenie ^Talk 17:27, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Problems with links in archives

Resolved

 – Vandalism from 5 March 2008 reverted. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 18:34, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2007_May_25

Take a look at the link to the previous day and month, current month and next day.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Request

Dear Sir

I want download some videos regarding iranin shia cluture as a also belong to SHIA MUSLIM from Kashmir, SIR will ur good self help me.

regards

Mirdilawar —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirdilawar (talk • contribs) 18:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 18:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

How do I delete an Image I've uploaded?

How do I delete an image I've uploaded? Thank you, Matthew R. Lee (talk) 18:39, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Tag it with {{db-author}}. – ukexpat (talk) 18:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Only admins can delete articles, talk pages, images, etc. The {{db-author}} tag asks for an admin to delete the tagged article, image, whatever because there is only one author (or uploader in this case) and he/she requests deletion. For more info, read Wikipedia:Deletion policy. --Richard (talk) 18:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Internal link to a commons image

Resolved

 – ukexpat (talk) 22:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

What is the syntax for making an internal piped link to an image on Wikimedia Commons? If I want to link to this image, for example, but I don't want it to appear as a web link. I know I can link to the file page like this, but I want to make a piped link to the image itself. Thank you, --Richardrj ^{talk email} 20:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

[[Media:Narbonne Cathedrale Saint Just et Saint Pasteur.jpg|this]] produces this which includes wikipedia in the url and would go to a Wikipedia image if there was one with the same name. Can you accept that? Note that [[commons:Media:Narbonne Cathedrale Saint Just et Saint Pasteur.jpg|this]] produces this which doesn't go to the image itself. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Use the colon trick, like [[:File:Narbonne Cathedrale Saint Just et Saint Pasteur.jpg|this]], which gives this link. – ukexpat (talk) 21:02, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

That's not what I wanted, since it points to the file page, not to the image itself. User:PrimeHunter seems to have solved the problem for me; many thanks. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 21:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Well I am pleased one of us was able to help! Marking as resolved. – ukexpat (talk) 22:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Link a Company Name to its website (URL)

How do I link a named company in an article to the website of that company while only displaying the name of the company in the article?Kjo3011 (talk) 20:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

In order to display a link with an alternate title, type [http://www.google.com Google]. This will display Google. However, please read our policies on spam and advertising. TNXMan 20:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

In most cases, you probably should not make such links. Take a look at the "important points to remember" section from Wikipedia's External Links style guideline ... particularly #2 which states "External links should not normally be used in the body of an article. Instead, include appropriate external links in an "External links" section at the end and/or in the appropriate location within an infobox or navbox." --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:58, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

add new page to a category ?

how do i do that —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.227.5.45 (talk) 21:34, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Add the link [[Category:Whatever]] to the bottom of the article page and the page will automatically be added to that category. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 21:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

See more at Help:Category. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Free use of information

Resolved

 – ukexpat (talk) 05:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering, if you have an industry report that a research group publishes (and sells for thousands of dollars), are there limits about what you can use from that report in Wikipedia? I'm not talking about plagiarizing anything, but are things like statistics, their analysis and so on acceptable to put in articles (properly cited, of course)? TastyCakes (talk) 22:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, we already reference material from books and those cost anywhere from $4 to $4000. Regardless of the cost, it will still come down to whether you are using a reliable source, and the same limits on usage will still apply. Other media quote from research reports all the time. You will have to accept though that there may be a higher bar for other people accepting your assertion that you actually read the report, since independent verification will be much more difficult. Franamax (talk) 22:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks a lot. TastyCakes (talk) 22:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Does the report itself cite sources? You might Google around for other more-accessible sources for the same information. The research group might use the same Internet as everybody else. Maybe they figured out a way to repackage Google searches for people who don't know how to Google, for thousands of dollars. In any case, I would be wary of any source of information that couldn't be at least roughly corroborated by some other source of information. Like having one guy who swears he saw Bigfoot - maybe he did, maybe he didn't. One could also question the notability of information that has thus far only been published once. --Teratornis (talk) 21:54, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

First Article

Sorry if this is covered somewhere. I didn't see it. Basically, the question is when creating a new article that may take several days to complete, or longer, is it possible to store it but not have it become a wikipage until it is ready?

Thanks, hobig Hobig (talk) 22:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Create it as a subpage of your user page, such as User:Hobig/Sandbox for example. Then move it to the right title when it's ready. Algebraist 22:51, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

It is often difficult for new users to create an article that will not get immediately deleted. We delete many new mainspace articles every day because they fail to meet the basic requirements. To avoid this discourgement, you might want to come back here and ask for a quick review of your article after you create it in your sandbox but before you move it to mainspace. Good luck! -Arch dude (talk) 02:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Photo

Please help! I'm translating the enWiki entry on Sinclair Lewis for the huWiki (on a subpage). They didn't have a word on Lewis, consequently, no pictures either. I'm unable to transfer either of the two Lewis photos from your article. Since the Hungarian entry very much needs a picture, couldn't you make an exception and let me transfer at least one of the two? Thank you for your help in advance, Vándormadár (this is my user name at huWiki)75.173.254.204 (talk) 23:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC).

The infobox photo, File:Lewis-Sinclair-LOC.jpg, is uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, meaning that it should be available to you on the Hungarian Wikipedia - just type in the same file name there. Xenon54 (talk) 23:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, but I did type in the exact file name, as above. The text came up in the edit window, but no picture. What can be the problem? --75.173.254.204 (talk) 23:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Type this: [[File:Lewis-Sinclair-LOC.jpg]]

See more at Wikipedia:Images, for example about size, placement and caption.

Sinclair Lewis uses {{Infobox Writer}} with the line:

| image = Lewis-Sinclair-LOC.jpg

This only works when there is an infobox with such a parameter. I don't know whether the Hungarian Wikipedia has that. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:01, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

It appears from [5] that you worked it out on your own. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

A while ago I thanked you guys for your help, and saved it. Now I don't see it anywhere. Am I on the wrong page? In any case, thanks again. --75.173.254.204 (talk) 00:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/75.173.254.204 only shows the contributions that are visible in this section. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:58, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

February 19

pearlscale

my pearlscale is not floating upside down or on the top but is very lifeless tody. Anything I can do or what may be causing this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.188.18.97 (talk) 00:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:01, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Seeing edits since last visit or last patrol

Resolved

 – Error corrected in help. --Marc Kupper|talk 09:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Watchlist#Recent and related changes, page history says

If one views the history of a watched page directly, without first viewing the page, the edit at the top (the most recent one) may be marked with update marker "updated (since my last visit)" (or the MediaWiki:Updatedmarker (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)); this applies if the edit was made by someone else and you have not viewed the page (while logged in) since it was made.

Exactly what does this look like? I can't detect any difference in a watched page's history and there's no difference at all. I also checked the HTML and it's identical meaning it's not an element hidden by a CSS style. I see the word may is in there though without explanation. Is there anything I can/should do enable this?

While "updated (since my last visit)" will be helpful what I really want is a way to remove pages from the displayed watchlist while still watching them. For example, if I'm watching this help page I'd like to be able to flag it as "I've caught up on recent edits" and that it would vanish entirely from my watchlist, including the edits from yesterday and the day before, until someone makes a new edit. At that point it would reappear. That would allow me to clear the watchlist to a blank slate. I don't visit Wikipedia every hour, or even every day, meaning there may be several days of edits to look over in the articles I'm interested in. I'm aware of patrolling on RecentChanges and that method with the ! would also work if it was done with my watchlist. --Marc Kupper|talk 01:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Watchlist redirects to Help:Watching pages. Many Help pages have content copied from meta. The update stuff originates from a copy from meta in 2005.[6]. Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 39#Why are some items on watchlist showing as bold and items in history have odd message? from May 2008 says that shortly after being enabled on Wikipedia in May 2008 it was disabled again due to problems. I don't know whether anything has changed since then. I have never seen the message. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. The village pump thread you referenced was interesting. I updated Help:Watching pages and removed the reference to the history mechanism. --Marc Kupper|talk 02:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Are these persons from this site, notable enough for a WP:ATHLETE article?

http://www.philolympicfestival.com/pofgames_sportprofile.asp?pofgames=NATIONAL&teamid=141&teamname=CAGAYAN%20DE%20ORO%20CITY&sportid=29&sportname=WRESTLING

More particluarly, the two Grecias and one Fernandez in the Bronze Medalist section.

People who have competed at the fully professional level of a sport, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, golf or tennis. People who have competed at the highest amateur level of a sport, usually considered to mean the Olympic Games or World Championships. Angdl (talk) 02:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I would say "no" as this is a regional tournament. The athletes involved are not competing at either a fully professional level of a sport or at the highest amateur level of a sport, usually considered to mean the Olympic Games or World Championships. --Marc Kupper|talk 02:23, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

• But it says "Olympic" on top of the page. And it's not regional, it's national. You have to take into account that "professional" wrestlers are performers such as Hulk Hogan and The Undertaker. "Amateur" wrestlers aren't amateur in definition, but it means that they are the real deal. They aren't scripted like pro wrestling. So, yes, they have competed at the highest amateur level of a sport, wrestling. And if you thought that it was an "inside the city" match, no it wasn't, it was the Olympic nationals and the city's listed there are only to indicate where they came from. Angdl (talk) 03:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
  • That's still not THE Olympic Games, the worldwide competition; it's just a national competition called the "Philippine Olympics"; not the same thing. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:20, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
    • (edit-conflict and so this overlaps with Orange Mike a little) The specific example criteria for a notable amateur athlete are the Olympic Games or World Championships. Angdl, I agree with you completely that Wikipedia's "notability" system is skewed towards attention getting people and the odds are far more likely that a WWE/WWF entertainment "wrestler" will qualify as "notable" than the most skilled amateur wrestler. In looking at the news archives it appears the Philippine Olympic Festival itself may qualify as notable for Wikipedia and once that is in place you can add tables that list the medal winners in each event for each year. --Marc Kupper|talk 03:37, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I Messed Up the Title of My New Page-How to Change?

I created a new biography page on John yates beall and left the last two names in lower case letters, it should be John Yates Beall. What is the solution? Thanks, Dubyavee (talk) 02:20, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Move the page. Algebraist 02:21, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

How much research should be use as well as the type needed for a wikipedia

How much research should be used as well as the type needed for wikipedia98.214.171.150 (talk) 03:24, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

To write what we consider our best work, a hell of a lot. I think the best answer to your question would be gleaned directly by examining a few of those top notch articles. They are called featured articles and require rigorous research and sourcing using only reliable sources to meet our verification policy. A full list of them is at Wikipedia:Featured articles. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:32, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Link refers to incorrect person

The Cost of Living article lists the personnel on this LP. The drummer/percussionist is correctly named Tony Fernandez, but the link takes you to the article on Tony Fernandez the former Major League baseball player. BitterbloggerBitterblogger (talk) 04:03, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Tony Fernandez the musician does not appear to have an article so I have redlinked him at The Cost of Living (Rick Wakeman album). – ukexpat (talk) 04:14, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Ready To Launch article

Hello there, I just joined Wikipedia. I used to work at congressional quarterly Press, which would subcontract another company. then I left CQ, and I tried to launch my own Press company. So I went back and got help from the same Contractor "Kevla corporation". I decided to write an article about that company. I dont work for it, nor its my buddies', but I guess i didnt have good citations and they deleted it, can anyone take a look and see how I did on the updated article and if its acceptable?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Linkaland/Kevla_Corporation

thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linkaland (talk • contribs) 04:18, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

If you want to avoid deletion of Kevla corporation, you need to demonstrate the notability of the subject with reliable sources. Please read Wikipedia’s guideline for notability of companies. Only companies that are notable qualify for an article on Wikipedia. Please read also Wikipedia’s guideline for reliable sources. The notability and all other facts in an article must be backed up by references to reliable independent sources. User:Linkaland/Kevla Corporation has the same problems, but since it is in user space, it is not in danger of speedy deletion. Your original article was deleted because it read like an advertisment. —teb728 t c 08:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

At the moment the draft in your user space does not indicate why the subject is notable. If it is moved to the main space, it will be speedily deleted under speedy criterion A7. – ukexpat (talk) 16:21, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

to find out a medicine

I am looking for a medicine(cream) which i bought couples years ago. Its indications is "An ldorless and greaseless analgesic rub. Its rub in action pin-points its analgesic action. Provides deep penetraring pain relief to those painful areas without aspirins stomach upset. For temporary relief of minor aches and pains of muscles associated with simple backache. I have old and used one, but the printed name on surface of medicine can not be see clear. The partial name is " .....hricreme, m Rub". I need to know the name of cream to tell my kid who lives San Jose to get one of it. My email is <redacted> best regards

shu-leung so —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.230.79.44 (talk) 06:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

We cannot offer medical advice. Please see the medical disclaimer. Contact your General Practitioner. Chamal ^talk 11:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

• I support the above response. Instead of relying on total strangers to guess correctly, you'd be better of contacting your doctor who will know the name if they prescribed it, or your local pharmacist. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:49, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

email articles

how can email wikipedia articles? Thanks,

RCB —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rbisesi (talk • contribs) 11:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

• Write an email and include the link. There is no specific email function to send articles to a friend. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
  • By link, I beleive Mgm means the article's URL. So if you wanted to email this help desk, you'd include the following text:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk

    in your mail. Best, Zain Ebrahim (talk) 12:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Shortcut

There is a WikiProject I access frequently that has a rather long name. It is Wikipedia: WikiProject Tamagotchi. As a result, when I am entering it in the search box, I often make mistakes, e.g, capitals, spaces etc. Is there a way to add a shortcut to it, like WP:...? Wikiert ^{talk sign contribs} 12:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Redirect an easier term, perhaps? WP:WT is taken. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 12:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, WP:TAMA should be what you're looking for. Best, TNXMan 12:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I just found that. Thanks anyway. Wikiert ^{talk sign contribs} 12:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Just for anyone else that was curious, on any page/section where there are shortcut links, you'll see a small box that lists them. For example, at the top of this page, you'll see two shortcuts to this page: WP:HD and WP:HELPDESK. TNXMan 12:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

(e/c x3) I have created a shortcut at WP:TAMA. Most two letter combinations are taken and this name seemed intuitive. If you want something different, simply create a shorcut just like you would an article, then redirect it to the WikiProject, and add it to the project description box at the project page ({{Project|SHORTCUT NAME}}). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Cite error

I am attempting to add info to a page and get a cite error that reads Cite error: <ref> tags exist, but no <references/> tag was found. I went back in and inserted a reference tag and it still isn't clearing. I am also comfused about editing an article from a stub to expaned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandaidgs (talk • contribs) 13:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

As the error message implied, a <references/> tag (often added using the {{reflist}} template) is necessary for references to be displayed. A bot has now added the necessary code. Algebraist 13:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not clear what you are asking about article expansion from a stub, but be bold in editing, try to use references to verify all information added, and you can remove the stub tab once the article becomes somewhat sizable and more information rich. When exactly to do so is a judgement call which has no formula.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Note: The Cite error: part of the message now links to Help:Cite errors. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 14:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

How do i request input on an article which has a relatively inactive talk page?

See my comments here: Talk:Shays'_Rebellion

Also, what is the general policy with articles that are sourced and referenced primarily from a controversial book/person/resource? Monolith2 (talk) 16:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Asking at the talk page of one of the relevant wikiprojects is probably a good idea. Algebraist 16:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

You could look at the history of the article, starting with the most recent editors who have contributed substantially to the article, and leave notes on their talk pages asking them to look at your comments. But please link to the specific section, which might be:

• Talk:Shays'_Rebellion#Other references?

--Teratornis (talk) 22:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

What is causing this whitespace?

Resolved

 – ukexpat (talk) 18:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

What is causing the whitespace at the top of Jeff Kelly? Mike R (talk) 16:44, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Something in template {{Infobox NFLactive}}. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:57, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

If you use the statweek field, then you must have a reference by using nfl. pfr. cbs. espn or si. I started a discussion at Template talk:Infobox NFLactive. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 17:27, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Mike R (talk) 18:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Request for Title

I could not find a descritption undes Corporate Titles for Principal Engineer. I wonder if someone would atempt to create one. Mpraca (talk) 16:47, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure to what you are referring. Are you saying there's no article for the job title "principal engineer"? TNXMan 17:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Or maybe that the article Corporate title doesn't list "principal engineer"? Note the general principle strongly followed on Wikipedia that if something needs improvement; if there's a missing article; if something needs to be done, well, what are you waiting for? (but if you do create the article, don't forget to cite to reliable sources which verify the content). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:13, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

How do I add a subject into Wikepedia?

I am an author and one of my books is entitled Career Directioning. How do I get it posted to Wikipedia??

Glenn Druhot— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.236.200 (talk • contribs)

Short answer, because of your conflict of interest you should make a request at Articles for creation. And when did "direction" become a verb? – ukexpat (talk) 20:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Possibly sometime before Buzzword bingo became a sport. --Teratornis (talk) 22:02, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

And see WP:COI. --Teratornis (talk) 22:05, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Add a Name to "People from Clairton, Pennsylvania" Page

I'm trying to add a name to the page "People from Clairton, Pennsylvania" but can't seem to do it. The name to be added is Ron Lancaster

Here's the information from his bio page on Wikepedia:

Ronald "Ron" Lancaster (October 14, 1938 – September 18, 2008[1]) was one of the pre-eminent quarterbacks of the Canadian Football League during his playing career; after his retirement as a player, he was also coach and general manager in the same league, and a sports announcer for CBC Television. At the time of his death, he was the Senior Director of Football Operations of the Hamilton Tiger-Cats. He is enshrined in the Canadian Football Hall of Fame (1982), the Canada's Sports Hall of Fame (1985) and the Wittenberg University Athletic Hall of Honour (1985).

Lancaster was born in Fairchance, Pennsylvania but moved to Clairton, Pennsylvania as a young boy. At the time of his death, his mother still resided in Clairton.

Maybe someone can go ahead and add Ron Lancaster to the page mentioned above, rather than just responding here.

--NameThatWorks (talk) 20:03, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

 Done - I just added the Category:People from Clairton, Pennsylvania (ie [[Category:People from Clairton, Pennsylvania]]) to the category list at the end of the article. – ukexpat (talk) 20:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Deleted edits

Occasionally I check my "Edit and action count" summary on the SQL's Tools page, and I find that my total number of "Deleted edits" is decreasing. I have also found some people have a negative number of deleted edits. Could someone explain all this to me? How does SQL's Tools' deleted edits tally work? kilbad (talk) 20:03, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

You might want to try this at WP:VPT. Algebraist 03:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Career Directioning, A Practical Guide for Job Seekers

I am an author and one of my books is entitled Career Directioning, A Practical Guide for Job Seekers, the ISBN number is 978-14257-6643-6 How do I get it posted to Wikipedia??

Glenn Druhot ==

Hi there. I'm assuming you're talking about creating an article about your book. If that is the case, you have to be an autoconfirmed user to create it, or you can request it at WP:AFC. If you do decide to create it, please read Your first article and the conflict of interest guidelines. Cheers, Hermione1980 20:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

See my reply to the same question three threads up ↑.  – ukexpat (talk) 20:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

How can I add a book title to Wikipedia?

I am an author and one of my books is entitled Career Directioning, A Practical guide for Job SeekersBold text. The ISBN number is 978-1-4257-6643-6. How can I get it listed on Wikipedia? Glenn A. Druhot

You can't Wikipedia is NOT a directory. Teapotgeorge^Talk 20:59, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Please don't keep asking the same question. Your query has been answered above - twice over. Karenjc 21:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Furthermore, your new username betrays a conflict of interest, which means that if you do create an article on your book under that name, the article is likely to be tagged for deletion as promotional material, unless you can demonstrate clear evidence of the book's notability. I will leave some links on your talkpage that may help you. Karenjc 21:05, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Not only does it betray a COI, it is also clearly in breach of the user name policy and has been reported to WP:UAA.  – ukexpat (talk) 21:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to the friendly world of Wikipedia! As you may be gathering from these brusque replies, Wikipedia is not, for many people, what it initially appears to be. To get a solid understanding of what Wikipedia is about, and how to navigate its numerous pitfalls, while avoiding all the stereotypical beginner mistakes, read the book:

• Wikipedia - The Missing Manual (the full text is here)

--Teratornis (talk) 22:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

User name blocked. – ukexpat (talk) 01:15, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

printing Wiki articles

I can't seem to find anything in your FAQs directly on point, so I'm sending this message seeking -- imploring -- your assistance.

In general, I find Wiki to be an enormously useful, rich and interesting resource -- a resource I often wish had been available a long time ago. I often read Wiki articles on all kinds of subjects, often simply as a valuable adjunct to my own wide-ranging and eclectic interests.

One of my major interests is mathematics although I am not a professional mathematician (in fact, I've been an attorney and an international banker, and I'm in the process of writing an article on some important areas of international banking and finance for submission to Wiki).

With my interest in mathematics, I have found numerous mathematics articles in Wiki extremely useful in my ongoing study of math, and often wish to print out the articles so I can read and study them in detail at my convenience. Moreover, I am trying to write a book on a math topic/subject and find numerous Wiki articles to be comprehnsive, generally well written and enormously helpful, especially as a research tool for the book I'm trying to write.

Over the past few months I have been encountering a problem in printing Wiki articles (and it seems to be an increasing problem since I seem to be encountering it with increasing frequency). Specifically, when I get to an article I'd like to print, I first go to "Print Preview" in the "File" menu. If there seem to be no problems in reviewing the article in "Print Preview," I print the article and end up with the full article without any difficulty. However, over the past few months (and increasingly the case), when previewing an article in "Print Preview," I get one or more (usually more, especially in the longer articles) blank pages in "Print Preview." At first I tried printing the article anyway, hoping that the fu;; article would print and that what I was seeing in "Print Preview" was only some kind of anomoly having to do with "Print Preview."

I soon discovered that such was not the case. Instead I found that if a page showed up blank in "Print Preview," it also did not print and came out (from my printer) as a blank page (and, especially with longer articles (usually 6 or more pages) several pages failed to show up in "Print Preview" and hence failed to print.

Since I do find Wiki articles so interesting, comprehensive, clear and generally easy to follow, informative and emormously helpful, I find this problem in printing specific articles very frustrating. I would be grateful if you might know of anything I might do to be able to print the articles I would like "hard copies" of. If you do have any suggestions, please let me know what they are, or if the problem is on Wiki's end, I'd be grateful if you would let me know when they might be remedied.

Thank you for your assistance.

David Levine Wiki Account Username: i.is.imaginary General e-mail address: <redacted>

It sounds like you are trying to print from the normal article view, which can be problematic. Click the "printable version" link on the left side of the page, under "toolbox". Doing so removes everything except text and images, allowing you to go to File -> Print and print as normal. Xenon54 (talk) 21:24, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

You are not the only one with this problem. This has been reported before, including yesterday; see #Printing problems. This seems to only be a problem in Internet Explorer. I am looking at this issue.

I would like to clarify how printing works here. Browsers that support CSS will look for certain stylesheets when you select print. On Wikipedia, these are commonPrint.css (editable by developers) and MediaWiki:Print.css (editable by admins). These stylesheets are the CSS rules for printing. When you select 'printable version' in the toolbox, you are applying these rules to the viewed version; this gives you a print preview and lets you print neatly to a browser that does not support CSS2. So: you do not need to select printable version if you have a modern browser.

--—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

If no solution to your printing problem materializes, I'd suggest rethinking the need to print. You mentioned that you are trying to print (which we would call "the step") so you can read articles (which we would call "the goal"). There are other ways to reach the goal. I'm trying to think of a situation where printing Wikipedia articles would be the only way to read them. Do you venture frequently into undeveloped locations where there is no electricity? It seems that in most parts of the developed world, widely available mobile computing technologies should allow you to read Wikipedia articles. Reading articles is much less technically demanding than editing the same articles, so there are more options for reading. See WP:EIW#Mobile. --Teratornis (talk) 00:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

New Article?

How do you start a new topic or subject? MoonRapper (talk) 21:30, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. TNXMan 21:32, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Divine Service Foundation

Why was this article deleted? Divine Service Foundation Thank you, Floyd

It was speedily deleted under criteria G11, which is "blatant advertising". All Wikipedia articles must be written from a neutral point of view and preferably by someone who isn't involved with the subject. In short, it was deleted because Wikipedia is not a place to advertise a business or organisation. Xenon54 (talk) 21:54, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

In other words, Wikipedia deleted it because Wikipedia failed to inform whoever created it of Wikipedia's rules for content, before letting them proceed. Wikipedia's general philosophy seems to be to prefer reactive rather than proactive regulation. I.e., Wikipedia lets anyone do whatever they want, and then we delete whatever they do that isn't what we wanted them to do. Some people might consider this to be the opposite of what a "well-run" organization would do: give new users only as much freedom as they have demonstrated they know how to handle. For example, if you want to operate a motor vehicle, in most parts of the world you have to get some training and pass a test first. Not on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is like the frontier where everyone can do whatever they want - and pay the price, just like pioneers did when they got eaten by grizzly bears. Apparently this approach is working because Wikipedia is the world's fifth most-visited Web property now. If you were involved in creating the article, read WP:WWMPD to learn about your options now. If you want to learn Wikipedia in a systematic way, rather than by costly trial and error, read the book:

• Wikipedia - The Missing Manual (full text is here)

--Teratornis (talk) 00:18, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

help on paragraphs

i have tried to submit a new paragraph into the section of area 51 the game 2005 on wikipedia and suceeded but when i do a blue box appears around my article and the words streach out longer. i have used the tutorial but this is no help. and in my message box it says it has been deleated by wikipedia.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgrgrgrgrobertgordon (talk • contribs)

That is because you have an indent out from the left. Place the text as far left as it will go. BigDunc^Talk 21:59, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I fixed it above as well... – ukexpat (talk) 22:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Gothic (Film)

I would like to insert the material from a sub-class article, Gothic (film) to the Lord Byron main page under the section related to other media. How would I do this?

The general guidelines are WP:MERGE and WP:SUMMARY. Whether you should merge content or merely link to it might be subject to dispute. I notice you did not sign your post. If you are new to Wikipedia, you should approach major edits with caution, as there may be other editors who will disagree with you. It's best to discuss changes on an article's Talk page first, to test the waters a bit before diving in. --Teratornis (talk) 00:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

February 20

Barackberry Sectera Edge

General Dynamics developed the Sectera Edge. L3 had no role in the development of the Sectera Edge.

Are you referencing an article? Sephiroth storm (talk) 00:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Do you refer to the article: Sectéra Secure Module? Can you provide a reliable source to support your claim? --Teratornis (talk) 00:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

New double redirect display

Does anyone have a link to a page discussing or announcing the software update that implemented the new double redirect display in the form seen here?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I believe this is an example of a double redirect that we attempt to avoid. The current revision no longer contains this. Sephiroth storm (talk) 02:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

The regulars at WP:VPT are more likely to be able to answer this question. Algebraist 02:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe. I'll give it a day. There's no hurry. Sephiroth, I'm not sure you grock. Double redirects are to be avoided; the current revision of that redirect is no longer a double redirect because I fixed it as part of requested move cleanup. I was referring to the display, i.e., the visual listing of the doubled nature of the redirection in the format: Name Name, which is new. Formerly, a double redirect did not announce itself in any fashion.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Does this chain together in any fashion? For example, if there were a (God forbid) triple redirect, would this show in the same fashion? I find the new display kinda handy. TNXMan 12:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

No. It displays double RDs, and navigates through both at once (without mentioning or linking to the intermediate RD), but triple RDs are still not dealt with at all. Algebraist 12:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I just tested this as well, and think it would be useful if the same format is used for n-level redirects (i.e. it showed as many as existed). It would certainly help with cleaning up complex redirect-spaghetti! Richard⁰⁶¹² 13:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Found it. Algebraist 13:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

where does {{at}} go?

I find myself confused on where to put {{at}} when NAC closing SNOW AFDs. Does it go above or below the section header? Like this:

{{subst:at}} '''result'''

=== John Doe ===

blah, blah

{{subst:ab}}

... or like this?

=== John Doe ===

{{subst:at}} '''result'''

blah, blah

{{subst:ab}}

flaminglawyer 04:26, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia:Deletion process#Header and footer text after closing, it should go above the section header. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 05:01, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

How do I put a photo on a page that I have uploaded to Wiki commons?

How do I put a photo on a page that I have uploaded to Wiki commons? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtw100 (talk • contribs) 07:55, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi. You can use images in articles that are on Commons the same way you would with an image on Wikipedia: [[Image:<imagename.jpg>]]. Help:Image goes more in depth on embedding images. Regards, Matt (Talk) 08:27, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

How do verify content?

I'm ready to post and I want to know how I do I verify my information. The explanation seems so complicated. You brake it down? Bobbygeeman (talk) 08:07, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I believe the simplest official explanation is given at Help:Footnotes. And if your source is a website, use the http address (see Help:Link#External link for more on that). If you don't get it right, don't worry; Wikipedia is a collaberative project. If you don't get it right, someone else will come along and fix it, and you can look at what they did to figure out what went wrong. That said, I'd recommend reading Wikipedia:Your first article, especially #4. Good luck ;-) Someguy1221 (talk) 08:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

• If your reference is a book, give all the information you'd put in a reference template (author, title, publisher, page number, ISBN, etc) If the code is too complicated don't worry about it. The most important thing is that you add the references. Someone else can format them. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

If this is for a new article, you may wish to start by creating your article as a subpage of your user page (e.g., at User:Bobbygeeman/Sandbox). Put your reference in any which way, and then come back here and ask for help: we can then format the refrence for you and you will then have a worked example. If you intend to add to an existing article, you can put your proposed addition on the articles's talk page or on your own talk page, and again come back here to ask for help. The really important thing is to get the referencin information into the article in some way or other: the exact format can be corrected later. -Arch dude (talk) 14:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Images not loading on Wikipedia -- several weeks now.

Hiya. For some reason, when accessing Wikipedia from my computer, images refuse to load. This is only Wikipedia. It is not other websites. It also only seems to be my computer, not others. Does this happen often? I've been using Wikipedia on and off for several years without this problem. It's only been the last couple weeks. 66.53.194.117 (talk) 10:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like your browser settings, depending on the browser there could be various solutions. The one that is common throughout is to clear your cache, but this might not work and it could be a setting problem on yoru browser which as i say ther eis many browser and each has there own settings so i aint listing them.--Andrewcrawford (talk) 10:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

The most likely explanation is that you have set your browser to block images from Wikipedia. Check your browser's image-blocking preferences and any relevant add-ons. Algebraist 11:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Category history

Is there any way to get any history about the former contents of a category (not its edit history)? Such as pages that used to be in it or even when was the last time it had a page in it? --Pascal666 (talk) 11:37, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

IP editor making... weird statements.

This may not be the right place to ask, but I honestly don't know where else to raise this, and it seems... "odd" enough to warrant additional eyes. Just a day or so, I took the knife to an article [7] deleting a lot of stuff, incluing things like this: [8] "To all ex-students of Townsville Primary School and Chongsan Primary School who wish to join the alumni,please make your way to the school at3 .Ang Mo Kio Ave 10 or email us at <e-mail redacted>" which is pretty.. clearly not encyclopedic. The "reply" came today, with an IP editor telling me this: [9]. Note that that was in article space, not on any kind of talk page. I myself don't feel I am good at talking to newbies who don't understand the basics of wikipedia, so I wonder if anybody else could? Because I feel this might possibly escalate. Dendlai (talk) 14:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I have also cleaned up some info and watchlisted the page. If the IP editor persists, I will leave him a note asking him to discuss on the article's talk page. Also, a gentle nudge towards WP:OWN would probably help. TNXMan 14:51, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest, repeated edits

Sorry if this is covered elsewhere! The page Wiliam Ellis Green. Melbourne Newspaper cartoonist, recently passed away. His page is subject to a repeated edits for Wegart.com.au. This is not the only outlet for the artwork as the edits indicate. I do not have any interest in the other link, just to point out another outlet exists. As such these repeated undo/edits are they vandalism?? Where there are two outlets for the artwork then the External refs/links should this be converted to the Open Data Project? Am sorry if this isn't very clear, am new and want to do the right thing. My edits to this page are deleted am now up to two edits and am conscious of the wiki edit war provisons. Help to set up the ODP link is appreciated Zippomk2 (talk) 14:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I would say that the insertion of the link in unessasary parts of the article may be concidered vandalism. I will place a warning on the IP User's talk page, outside of that, I don't believe I can take any further action. I would also suggest that you add some refernces to the article. Sephiroth storm (talk) 21:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Signature

Resolved

 – ukexpat (talk) 19:12, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm trying to change my signature on my preferences page, but all it says is 'Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags.' The formatting looks like this: '''''</font></small> [[User:Wikiert|<font color="Pink">'''''Wikiert'''''</font>]]</small> [[User talk: Wikiert|^{<font color="Purple">talk</font>}]]</font></small> [[User:Wikiert/Guestbook|^{<font color="Green">sign</font>}]]</font></small> [[Special:Contributions/Wikiert|^{<font color="Red">contribs</font>}]] I don't get how to put 'HTML tags' on it. Wikiert (talk) 16:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I think it's saying that the tags like <font> or <sup> are invalid. It's been a while since I've played around with these, but I believe you are using invalid leading tags. Remember, the first instance of a tag should look like this: <font> and the closing instance should look like this: </font>. I think you've replaced some of your leading tags with closing tags. Best, TNXMan 17:11, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I just tried adding your signature into the box in my preferences. Your sig is too long. There can be up to 255 characters in it, and yours has more, because the 'contributions' bit is cut off at 'contri'. I'll think up a new sig. Queenie ^Talk 18:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

You may want to drop the link to your guestbook. You can link to it from your user page and would still allow for links to your user/talk page and contributions list. TNXMan 18:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Sound of trumpets please! Here is your new signature: Wikiert ^{T S C}. Copy the code into your preferences; it works, I tried it. Wikiert ^{T S C} 19:08, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Uh.. shoot. That was me above. Sorry, forgot to take your sig out of my preferences - *facepalm* Queenie ^Talk 19:12, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey, good job! That's a nice looking sig, even if it's not yours. :P TNXMan 19:23, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

thin blue border?

I just created a small page. How do I get rid of the thin, broken blue border, and what makes each paragraph go on horizontally until its end?

Lines starting with a space have special formatting. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Removing the space at the beginning of the line should do it. -=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 18:15, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Creating a Company Page

How can I make a company page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.19.121.227 (talk) 18:11, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. TNXMan 18:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

And please also read WP:Spam. – ukexpat (talk) 19:27, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

A tricky move question

In 2007 I created an article on a piece by John Cage, Music of Changes. Up to a few hours ago, I had no idea that a simple search for "music of changes" (something one would use to quickly access the article) now redirects to.. Music Of Changes (note the capital "o"), an article about a compilation of ambient music, created in 2008 by a rarely active user. Now, obviously one of the articles should be moved: not only to avoid confusion, but also every source I can find lists the ambient album as "Music of Changes", not Of. The issue becomes slightly more complicated because the cover of the album says "The Music of Changes" ([10]), even though everyone lists it without the "The".

Suppose I were to move the album article (a decision based on Google, which generates more hits for Cage: compare [11] and [12]) to Music of Changes (album) (I'd prefer Ambient 3: Music of Changes, but this would require renaming other articles for Virgin Ambient series). Naturally, I'd mention the new article at Music of Changes, so that people could find it after being redirected to Cage from "music of changes". But what should be done with Music Of Changes? Should it simply be deleted? Or should it be made into a redirect? The latter seems kind of useless, given Wikipedia's automatic redirects. Should both the Cage and the album articles be renamed and Music of Changes made into a disambiguation, given that there are, apparently, a few other things named "Music of Changes" ([13])? Most of them don't seem particularly notable, but I'm no expert on determining notability. And anyway, if Music of Changes is made into a disambiguation, what is to be done with Music Of Changes? And what about the "The" problem, should we comply with the album cover rather than with most websites that list it without the definite article?

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask such questions, but I've never run into a situation like this before, and apparently neither the Administrator's Noticeboard nor the Village Pump are for this sort of thing. I'm quite lost; even with non-tricky moves I always feel nervous that I'll break something, and now I'm completely confused as to what to do. --Jashiin (talk) 18:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD

per [14] this post - but not sure that admin is online at the moment - not sure what (if anything) I should do next. — Ched (talk) 20:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

It appears the article was the victim of some vandalism. I've reverted the page to the last stable version. However, this has made your AfD template disappear. You can re-add it if you'd like to pursue it or close the AfD discussion. Best, TNXMan 20:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Also, I have requested temporary semi-protection. The amount of IP vandalism to that page is absurd. TNXMan 20:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

(ec)::Thanks there Tnxman, just dropped a note on your talk page about the help. Naaa ... I'm not one for adding delete tags to anything but pure nonsense or attacks. — Ched (talk) 20:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

good move - I hadn't thought that far ahead yet - still operating at a slow and methodical rate at this point. — Ched (talk) 20:50, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Wrapping text

I'm working on my first page in a sub page of my user page, so I can learn some of the techniques before actually posting the page public. Afer writing an itro graph and saving it, the text did not show in paragraph form but rather in a long continuous line that stretched way off the page. How do I correct that?

Hobig Hobig (talk) 20:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

See the above section entitled "Thin blue border". If you have a leading space, your text ends up the way you described. I've fixed it on your page. TNXMan 21:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Hobig, did you mean to create the article on a subpage, or out in the article namespace? Queenie ^Talk 21:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

(after) thanks Ukexpat, I had an edit conflict with you, trying to fix that link. Queenie ^Talk 21:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

rollback links

Is there a way to make the rollback links on the watchlist disappear? — Aitias // discussion 21:25, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I believe this link should be of assistance. TNXMan 21:30, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

do I just copy those 2 scripts to my monobook file? — Ched (talk) 21:37, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I believe so. Just add it in and reload the page (bypass your cache if necessary). TNXMan 21:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

@Tnxman307: Thanks! :) — Aitias // discussion 21:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

@Ched Davis: You have to add it to User:Ched Davis/monobook.css. — Aitias // discussion 21:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

@all .. Thanks — Ched (talk) 22:30, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Table help

Hello all. I've been adding content to List of Halo media, and I suddenly realized that some of the tables don't properly render. The right table border for the 'notes' section is there on the video games section, for example, but not for any of the tables in the "Printed media" section, for example. Anyone take a looksee at the code and find out what's wrong? --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 23:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I took a stab. Some tables had three columns, but some of the rows specified a colspan of 5. The tables actually rendered fine for me in both Firefox 3 and IE7, but I could see how a browser could be confused by the over-reaching column span. — TKD::Talk 03:43, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

February 21

Persondata

Is there a way to find person articles needing meta templates? Mjpresson (talk) 01:07, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Not that I can find. A good start would be a category that lists all articles whose talk pages have the |needs-persondata = yes parameter set in {{WPBiography}}. Any chance that a template expert can edit that template to automatically populate a new Category:Biography articles without persondata category? – ukexpat (talk) 03:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Downtime?

I was unable to access any Wikimedia websites starting at about 01:20 UTC, recieving only Wikimedia Foundation error messages or perpetual "Waiting for en.wikipedia.org" from Firefox. Did anyone else have this problem, and if so know what the cause was? Xenon54 (talk) 02:07, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

The server admin log has some technospeak that suggests everything was down. Algebraist 02:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, there was a file server problem. Log on to #wikipedia on IRC next time for updates! Pretzels^Talk! 04:13, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

What does Wikipedia say about periods at the end of caption-sentences?

Is there a general rule whether or not captions of images should be placed a period at the end. I actually noted that many articles are inconsistent, meaning some pictures have the period, some don't—even within the same articles. Since I plan to do some clean-up tonight, I thought I'd ask which is preferred (period or no period?). I don't know if I stated this clearly! --Pgecaj (talk) 03:59, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

It depends on whether the caption contains a complete sentence. See MOS:CAPTIONS. — TKD::Talk 04:14, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

A question for template hackers

Is there any way to strip the square brackets from the values in a parameter?

{{#magicfunction:{{{1|[[Los Angeles]], [[California]]}}} }} -> Los Angeles, California

So why am I asking. I was using #titleparts: for passing a string array, which is a great hack for numbers or plain text but it doesn't like square brackets for some reason. So it's pretty useless for general purposes.

If this is the wrong place to axe, can someone point me in the direction where the guys hang out that enjoy such things?-J JMesserly (talk) 06:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

probe selection.

1. what is the factor consider in probe selection? 2. in manual conventional ut, only 70 deg, 60 deg, 45 deg and 0 deg. TR and normal. why not other degree like 50 deg or other?

This help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. You might want to try asking your question at the reference desk. If you do, make sure you provide enough context for people to know what in God's name you're talking about. Algebraist 10:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Objection to Subcategory of Category:Indian fascists

I strongly object the inclusion of a popular Indian political party in:

Category:Indian fascists Subcategories This category has only the following subcategory. [+] Bharatiya Janata Party politicians (1)